@@AN5WER321No, like a good 7/11 teams in the conference. The KenPom median of the conference in 2023 was 62, which is less than 10 away from the ACC. If the Mountain West were to add Gonzaga and St. Mary’s, like has been proposed in the past, they’d be one of the top basketball conferences in the country with a KenPom of 54, two above the ACC.
Some problems with your statement 1. OSU and WSU haven’t joined the Mountain West. They just scheduled lots of games against mountain west teams. Sorta like what Notre Dame does with the ACC. 2. Both WSU and OSU teams play each other every season. They can’t both be undefeated.
It’ll be interesting to see if the MW or the AAC is able to plant a flag at 5th. All I can say for sure is that I’m ready for my UNLV dynasty in NCAA 25!
I was in attendance at the first ever Mountain West Conference football game at the start of the 1999 season. BYU vs Colorado State. I was only 13 years old at the time and didn't realize I was a witness to history.
First of all, I love the channel. Obscure conference talk is something I never knew I needed. Keep it up! Second, the MWC is my favorite G5 conference. I already liked Hawaii and Boise St, but I also like the geographic cohesion, the competitive balance, and the late night games that will replace "Pac-12 after dark." So I've been looking forward to this video!
First of all: Another great video by Lukas. I particularly enjoyed the Wild West style opening montage of this video, with the pics of the mountains and the cool Western style music. For a second, I thought I was gonna see a train coming round the mountains. ⛰🚂 OK, now on to the Mountain West Conference. You know, you could make a strong case for the Mountain West being the best Group of 5 conference today. I think as long as the Mountain West keeps Boise State, they’ll always be competitive in football. I also think they should add Oregon State & Washington State, mainly because they both deserve a home and a fair and square chance at being relevant in the college sports landscape. Who knows? Maybe this could lead to better and brighter days for the Mountain West.
Great video, but you missed all the juicy drama that went down with BYU going independent and the WAC schools being invited in. As early as 2008 BYU was exploring independence because they got screwed over on a handshake agreement for tv rebroadcast rights (I know this because Tom Holmoe gave a small group of us students an interview for a school project, and he said independence is on the table). Google Dave Checketts BYU to find it the full story. Utah leaving was the final nail in the coffin for BYU. BYU had plans to go independent in football and rejoin the WAC in all other sports, but Utah leaked the plan to Craig Thompson. The MWC responded by inviting Nevada, Fresno St and Utah St overnight, hoping to tank BYU’s landing spot and keep them in the MWC as the conferences cash cow. USU stuck to the plan and turned down the invite. Nevada and FSU flipped. BYU scrambled and ended up in the WCC, the MWC started gobbling up the WAC and USU was hosed…for a little while. And somewhere in there TCU left for the Big 12. It was a crazy time.
As a fan of a team who used to be in the MWC, the conference would be so much better back then if they had the current commissioner then the previous commissioner. Like Larry Scott gets talked about a lot for how bad he is, but the previous commissioner was just as bad. I will always have a soft spot for the MWC programs, but I will never forgive them for the Mtn Network. The 2008 BYU-Utah game was on that bloody network, and you have no idea how difficult it was to get that network.
Great idea. Multiple CWS titles, UNLV's run to the Men's basketball championship under "Tark the Shark". Great football history too. (Emphasis on HISTORY). Started as and was a one state league for several years. Current home for Hawai'i (non football) and 10 schools in California (5 UC and 5 CSU). Hawai'i subsidizes travel for the California schools. 2 FCS Big Sky football members also play other sports here: UC Davis and Cal Poly.
Coug fan here but I think the Pac-2/Mountain West is uniquely positioned for the future. If the Mountain West merges into the Pac-2, the conference has a lot of potential to establish itself as one of the better conference. It would be a conference that is made up of similar schools and largely regional in its scope (sorry Hawaii), both of which are beneficial for conference cohesion. If the FSU split kills the ACC, I could easily see Cal and Stanford come back into the fold and strengthen the conference. Maybe the Big Ten and SEC fall off from trying to juggle so many schools, giving the smaller conferences the opportunity to pick up what they leave behind. In any case, conference realignment is an ongoing process but we've repeatedly seen that regionalism is important and that there is no such thing as a conference that is too big to fail. If the Pac-2/MWC play their cards right, the future could be very bright
Mountain West is easily the new powerhouse conference on the West Coast, and it seems like they will hold a similar position to what the PAC12 used to be, albeit with better strategy since they won’t have to rely on (or be hindered with) the big West Coast schools (USC, UCLA, Oregon, & Washington)
Yes, the MWC is the best G5 right now and going forward. They have the best football and basketball. They'll have 6, 20+ win teams before their tournament. They have to worry about being decapitated by the Pac 2, though. But if they can stave that off, they should try to expand. Leave no doubt they're the best G5.
My predictions as a Cincy fan with no skin in the game with the MW (I have 0 qualifications whatsoever and please do not quote me as any kind of expert) : 1. The SEC and B10 try to leave the NCAA for football only and stay in it for everything else. This has one of 3 results: - It works somehow and the NCAA agrees to it, likely through a big payout from both conferences. - The NCAA drags their feet and will only let them leave after a big payday AND both conferences removing all sports from the NCAA. The SEC and B10 say "ok fine" and do it. - It fails and both conferences begrudgingly stay in, probably after a bunch of legal battles. 2. Because of the SEC/B10 fiasco, the B12 and ACC merge (after likely exits from Florida State and UNC, maybe others) to form a solid 3rd place conference (I actually kinda want this because I want Pitt and UofL as conference opponents again). Pod scheduling is used to keep track of the 22+ team behemoth. It will try to survive a WAC-level fallout after 10-ish years due it's bloated size. 3. The MW merges with the 2-PAC and forms the new MW/PAC conference with a rebrand using the PAC I.P (Mountain-Pacific conference?). They become the premiere non-power conference, and may even get to a Big East "power-ish" status, possibly by poaching some AAC schools (Memphis?). If the B12 and/or ACC needs to expand (no idea why but whatever), Wazzu, OSU, Boise, SDSU, and Memphis are next in line.
Boise definitely has the talent in football. Their biggest problem is that they don't have high enough academic standards. (Bottom 5 in MW, I believe) That's why no P5 conference would/will take them.
The merging of the 2 PAC 12 teams with Mountain west will be influenced by College football playoff accessibility to non power conferences as well as PAC 12’s status as a power conference and if the conference will continue to receive the same benefits that Power Conferences are given.
Not yet. The MW is now fighting back after they stopped the bleeding after Utah State left, so now that the Pac and MW are going to be at 7 members, it is a race to expand. (Also, the AAC Schools will be staying together as Tulane, Memphis, and UTSA denied the Pac's invitation)
Honestly, I think the remaining pac 12 schools will join. Once that happens, I could see the Mountain West offering Utep and NM St. Spots to make it 16 teams. Any further additions to the conference would probably be offering NDSU and SDSU from the FCS.
Reverse merge with PAC12. New PAC should be the 2 holdovers, all 11 MWC, Hawai'i, St.Marys and Gonzaga. 14FB and 16Bball. May not be a FB power conference but should stay in power conference for basketball
Best of the Power 5 is between SBC and the Mountain West. And hey, I don't see the ACC lasting for too long. If the SEC has it's way UNC, Clemson and FSU would be joining the SEC. The Big Ten will then try to grab schools like Louisville, VT, Pitt and BC. Notre Dame might join the Big Ten, if and when the NCAA bubble pops. If the PAC-2 and MW merge to create a new PAC conference then SMU, Cal and Stanford can be invited to the new conference once the ACC starts to fall apart. WSU, OSU, and the MW are playing the long game. Cause the Big Ten and SEC won't care about their clubs. So it's just about waiting and picking up whoever is left. Same with the Big 12. They can also pick up teams like Wake Forest, NCST, GT, UVA when the ACC eventually falls apart. The Big 12 can then have an Eastern Division where Cincy, WVU, and UCF don't have to play teams across the country.
Stanford not coming back. It's B1G or nothing for them. Cal goes where Stanford goes. ND got them in the ACC for nothing, they can get them into the B1G for accepting a full membership.
Time is a flat circle. I think the MW will eventually look similar to the WAC it split from. Stanford and Cal will go back to the PAC2 when ACC destabilizes. The PAC will rebuild and backfill with MW and AAC schools (one surprise could be Utah leaving Big12 to rejoin PAC) . The remaining top brands of MW, AAC. and CUSA will come together to form 16 team league. Because all the traditional rivalries have been severed due to conference expansion, pod scheduling will be embraced.
Been thinking about the next moves for a while, and I guess my preferred western g5 realignment that consolidates power but preserves geographic and historical rivals is: OSU/WSU poach SDSU, FSU, Boise, UNLV, CSU, Air Force from the MWC and SMU from a collapsed ACC to form the new Pac X conference. USU, UTSA, Rice, Texas St, and Tulsa are added to fill out the conference and improve its academic and recruiting profile. Tulane and Memphis are left in the AAC due to being in areas facing demographic collapse (at least that’s my justification). Despite most conferences moving past divisions, the new Pac will have east/west divisions to ensure teams have access to their preferred recruiting grounds (Texas in the east/Cali and Utah in the west). Wichita St and Gonzaga are added as olympic sports members to get the conference to 16. Wyoming and the top half of the big sky merge with the summit with the top fcs teams in those leagues elevating to the MWC. SJSU, Nev join the Big West for oli sports (like UH), UNM the WAC with UTEP/NMSU, who also join a rebuilding MWC (at least temporarily)
I prefer them to keep the MW Branding. The MW feels like a fun conference on the rise while the new PAC-12 will never live up to the old PAC-12. It shouldn't tru to become the PAC-12 and instead grow as its own thing.
@@ascendseraph7834either that or Montana State, since I at times think North Dakota State would Join with South Dakota State, Northern Iowa, and Youngstown State and join the MAC.
You are propagating a media lie. SDSU announced their intent to leave the MW. They did not resign the MW. BIG difference. The intent was to provide the MW with time to consider adjustments the MW may need. The thanks they get is a devicesive and deceptive reaction by the very schools who are enjoying the monetary success the Aztecs have brought them.
"Hey, I'm not breaking up with you now, but just a heads up, there's, like, an 85% chance I'm breaking up with you in the next couple of months." - SDSU brass I don't blame the MW at all for taking that at face value. You want out of here, okay. You come groveling back in two weeks because you loudly told the world you were going to jump without a landing spot? Also okay.
The Group of 5 will eventually merge with the FCS in some way once the Power 4 finally brake away. This will reset College Football back to zero as the Indepdent Power 4 experiment flounders and the new FCS-G5 League succeeds.
I think a Big West video would be cool because it kind of is part of this history with the WAC and MW as some of their former members ended up in those conferences.
I hope the Pac-2 fully join and Gonzaga comes in, like you said, for basketball only to offset Hawaii. But I also think the ACC and Big XII should swap WVU, UCF, and Cincinnati, with SMU, Cal, and Stanford 🤷♂️
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In basketball, the Mountain West is playing like a power conference
You mean San Diego State
@@AN5WER321No, like a good 7/11 teams in the conference. The KenPom median of the conference in 2023 was 62, which is less than 10 away from the ACC. If the Mountain West were to add Gonzaga and St. Mary’s, like has been proposed in the past, they’d be one of the top basketball conferences in the country with a KenPom of 54, two above the ACC.
I hope Oregon State and Wazzu get undefeated seasons. older brother shouldnt have abandoned them and Mountain West are awesome for taking them in
Some problems with your statement
1. OSU and WSU haven’t joined the Mountain West. They just scheduled lots of games against mountain west teams. Sorta like what Notre Dame does with the ACC.
2. Both WSU and OSU teams play each other every season. They can’t both be undefeated.
@@zachellenburg5738 maybe he means they go undefeated in separate years
@@zachellenburg5738Well the MWC is gonna end up as the new PAC eventually
well it’s partially their fault for dragging their feet when the big 12 nearly collapsed
This aged like warm milk in the desert
It’ll be interesting to see if the MW or the AAC is able to plant a flag at 5th. All I can say for sure is that I’m ready for my UNLV dynasty in NCAA 25!
Once OSU/Wazzu become perminent members, it will be the MWC by a long shot. I'd consider them to be pretty even atm
Finally get to see my conference get some love.
It’s a good conference. I have no connection, but I respect it. 👍🏽
I was in attendance at the first ever Mountain West Conference football game at the start of the 1999 season. BYU vs Colorado State. I was only 13 years old at the time and didn't realize I was a witness to history.
Would love a MVC conference history
First of all, I love the channel. Obscure conference talk is something I never knew I needed. Keep it up! Second, the MWC is my favorite G5 conference. I already liked Hawaii and Boise St, but I also like the geographic cohesion, the competitive balance, and the late night games that will replace "Pac-12 after dark." So I've been looking forward to this video!
Same, I hope they embrace the time difference and “after dark” feel
As a BYU fan in Las Vegas, I grew up watching Mountain West football. I miss those days, they were great.
Basketball has been strong for the Mtn West. Love those late night Saturday mountain west games for football
Hopefully nothing too crazy will happen this season regarding the Mountain West and their membership and history.
Once I get either one of the Missouri Valley, Ohio Valley, or Summit Conferences, I will subscribe.
Would be cool to see a MAC history. One of the most consistent conferences through multiple realignment crazes
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Love the MWC! Truely the boggest group of 5
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@@lukeontheplainsno, I think you mean *BOG*
Ah yes I love bog conferences
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The SAIC, the predecessor to the SoCon, had 26 schools.
This dude been on a tear recently, keep up to goodwork
First of all: Another great video by Lukas. I particularly enjoyed the Wild West style opening montage of this video, with the pics of the mountains and the cool Western style music. For a second, I thought I was gonna see a train coming round the mountains. ⛰🚂
OK, now on to the Mountain West Conference. You know, you could make a strong case for the Mountain West being the best Group of 5 conference today. I think as long as the Mountain West keeps Boise State, they’ll always be competitive in football. I also think they should add Oregon State & Washington State, mainly because they both deserve a home and a fair and square chance at being relevant in the college sports landscape. Who knows? Maybe this could lead to better and brighter days for the Mountain West.
I’m here yet again, to give you my support. Love this series!
I cant wait for the sec video!!
How do you not have over 50k subs yet these videos are amazing
Really enjoying these vids!
Great video, but you missed all the juicy drama that went down with BYU going independent and the WAC schools being invited in.
As early as 2008 BYU was exploring independence because they got screwed over on a handshake agreement for tv rebroadcast rights (I know this because Tom Holmoe gave a small group of us students an interview for a school project, and he said independence is on the table).
Google Dave Checketts BYU to find it the full story. Utah leaving was the final nail in the coffin for BYU. BYU had plans to go independent in football and rejoin the WAC in all other sports, but Utah leaked the plan to Craig Thompson. The MWC responded by inviting Nevada, Fresno St and Utah St overnight, hoping to tank BYU’s landing spot and keep them in the MWC as the conferences cash cow. USU stuck to the plan and turned down the invite. Nevada and FSU flipped. BYU scrambled and ended up in the WCC, the MWC started gobbling up the WAC and USU was hosed…for a little while. And somewhere in there TCU left for the Big 12.
It was a crazy time.
I love these vids, are you going to do FCS/Basketball only conferences as well?
Could you do the History of the Horizon League?
Rn its arguably a top basketball conference if they could add Gonzaga it would be real interesting, or even Saint Mary’s
Good video, got a new subscriber.
been waiting on this one, especially after the WAC video
SDSU just threw the timeout stool out of the window.
Step-Pac 12 is the cool step-parent
This was an amazing video, currently watching this with my Wyoming hoodie
Now when are you making that Wichita State Video
your channel is so good dude
Love your videos, definitely earned a new subscriber
Waiting on your MVC history rundown !
MWC will soon (in basketball) be considered the 6th Power Conference, replacing Pac12.
As a fan of a team who used to be in the MWC, the conference would be so much better back then if they had the current commissioner then the previous commissioner. Like Larry Scott gets talked about a lot for how bad he is, but the previous commissioner was just as bad. I will always have a soft spot for the MWC programs, but I will never forgive them for the Mtn Network. The 2008 BYU-Utah game was on that bloody network, and you have no idea how difficult it was to get that network.
Poor Gloria could not foresee the pacs resurrection
4:53 out a sock in it, love the videos
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Great idea. Multiple CWS titles, UNLV's run to the Men's basketball championship under "Tark the Shark". Great football history too. (Emphasis on HISTORY). Started as and was a one state league for several years. Current home for Hawai'i (non football) and 10 schools in California (5 UC and 5 CSU). Hawai'i subsidizes travel for the California schools. 2 FCS Big Sky football members also play other sports here: UC Davis and Cal Poly.
I know this is a football first channel but also could have mentioned that the MWC is great at basketball
Coug fan here but I think the Pac-2/Mountain West is uniquely positioned for the future. If the Mountain West merges into the Pac-2, the conference has a lot of potential to establish itself as one of the better conference. It would be a conference that is made up of similar schools and largely regional in its scope (sorry Hawaii), both of which are beneficial for conference cohesion. If the FSU split kills the ACC, I could easily see Cal and Stanford come back into the fold and strengthen the conference. Maybe the Big Ten and SEC fall off from trying to juggle so many schools, giving the smaller conferences the opportunity to pick up what they leave behind.
In any case, conference realignment is an ongoing process but we've repeatedly seen that regionalism is important and that there is no such thing as a conference that is too big to fail. If the Pac-2/MWC play their cards right, the future could be very bright
You should do the A-10 because they are really good in basketball
The spot the MW wants could very likely be opening up as the ACC seems destined to fold when FSU and Clemson leave (presumably to the P2)
Good Stuff. I love your channel
Mountain West is easily the new powerhouse conference on the West Coast, and it seems like they will hold a similar position to what the PAC12 used to be, albeit with better strategy since they won’t have to rely on (or be hindered with) the big West Coast schools (USC, UCLA, Oregon, & Washington)
I love this channel
They should be the ones to bring University of Alaska to the big stage in the NCAA. They're still D2 but every school gets there sooner or later
Yes, the MWC is the best G5 right now and going forward. They have the best football and basketball. They'll have 6, 20+ win teams before their tournament. They have to worry about being decapitated by the Pac 2, though. But if they can stave that off, they should try to expand. Leave no doubt they're the best G5.
My predictions as a Cincy fan with no skin in the game with the MW (I have 0 qualifications whatsoever and please do not quote me as any kind of expert) :
1. The SEC and B10 try to leave the NCAA for football only and stay in it for everything else. This has one of 3 results:
- It works somehow and the NCAA agrees to it, likely through a big payout from both conferences.
- The NCAA drags their feet and will only let them leave after a big payday AND both conferences removing all sports from the NCAA. The SEC and B10 say "ok fine" and do it.
- It fails and both conferences begrudgingly stay in, probably after a bunch of legal battles.
2. Because of the SEC/B10 fiasco, the B12 and ACC merge (after likely exits from Florida State and UNC, maybe others) to form a solid 3rd place conference (I actually kinda want this because I want Pitt and UofL as conference opponents again). Pod scheduling is used to keep track of the 22+ team behemoth. It will try to survive a WAC-level fallout after 10-ish years due it's bloated size.
3. The MW merges with the 2-PAC and forms the new MW/PAC conference with a rebrand using the PAC I.P (Mountain-Pacific conference?). They become the premiere non-power conference, and may even get to a Big East "power-ish" status, possibly by poaching some AAC schools (Memphis?). If the B12 and/or ACC needs to expand (no idea why but whatever), Wazzu, OSU, Boise, SDSU, and Memphis are next in line.
Boise definitely has the talent in football. Their biggest problem is that they don't have high enough academic standards. (Bottom 5 in MW, I believe) That's why no P5 conference would/will take them.
@@ascendseraph7834 fair, but I think we've reached the point where academics don't really matter anymore
Nice work
Please do the Missouri valley but from a more basketball centric perspective!
The merging of the 2 PAC 12 teams with Mountain west will be influenced by College football playoff accessibility to non power conferences as well as PAC 12’s status as a power conference and if the conference will continue to receive the same benefits that Power Conferences are given.
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Always thought it was interesting that Gonzaga never joined the MWC
You should do some non football based conferences like the MAAC
Nevarez is the GOAT. She’ll do great things.
Rip the mwc long live the 6pac
Not yet. The MW is now fighting back after they stopped the bleeding after Utah State left, so now that the Pac and MW are going to be at 7 members, it is a race to expand. (Also, the AAC Schools will be staying together as Tulane, Memphis, and UTSA denied the Pac's invitation)
Man we ruined college sports. Anyways. Those years when l, byu Utah and TCU were all good was really fun.
I need a video on the sec!!!!!
11:30 The Pac-12 is in fact, not gone
MW is the best conference
UNLV and Boise State are huge!
Didn’t BYU enter talks with the PAC12 at one point as well?
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I always felt like Boise State should have left for the big 12 or pac 12 with tcu they were amazing during that time
Honestly, I think the remaining pac 12 schools will join. Once that happens, I could see the Mountain West offering Utep and NM St. Spots to make it 16 teams. Any further additions to the conference would probably be offering NDSU and SDSU from the FCS.
Can you do history of the Mvc
Pioneer Football Conference when? 😢
Reverse merge with PAC12.
New PAC should be the 2 holdovers, all 11 MWC, Hawai'i, St.Marys and Gonzaga. 14FB and 16Bball. May not be a FB power conference but should stay in power conference for basketball
sec??
Best of the Power 5 is between SBC and the Mountain West. And hey, I don't see the ACC lasting for too long. If the SEC has it's way UNC, Clemson and FSU would be joining the SEC. The Big Ten will then try to grab schools like Louisville, VT, Pitt and BC. Notre Dame might join the Big Ten, if and when the NCAA bubble pops. If the PAC-2 and MW merge to create a new PAC conference then SMU, Cal and Stanford can be invited to the new conference once the ACC starts to fall apart. WSU, OSU, and the MW are playing the long game. Cause the Big Ten and SEC won't care about their clubs. So it's just about waiting and picking up whoever is left. Same with the Big 12. They can also pick up teams like Wake Forest, NCST, GT, UVA when the ACC eventually falls apart. The Big 12 can then have an Eastern Division where Cincy, WVU, and UCF don't have to play teams across the country.
Stanford not coming back. It's B1G or nothing for them. Cal goes where Stanford goes. ND got them in the ACC for nothing, they can get them into the B1G for accepting a full membership.
Time is a flat circle. I think the MW will eventually look similar to the WAC it split from. Stanford and Cal will go back to the PAC2 when ACC destabilizes. The PAC will rebuild and backfill with MW and AAC schools (one surprise could be Utah leaving Big12 to rejoin PAC) . The remaining top brands of MW, AAC. and CUSA will come together to form 16 team league. Because all the traditional rivalries have been severed due to conference expansion, pod scheduling will be embraced.
Great video! This is my conference so I'm probably a little biased GO POKES
Hear me out: Pac-12 and Mountain West merge together and become the Mountain Pac
Linsanity type run rn
I think sun belt probably is better in football but mwc basketball is squarely in the p5/6/7 convo now
I think it'll be a reverse merger with the Pac-12, maybe poach Gonzaga out of the WCC. That conference would be legit in both football and basketball.
Does Dalukes ever miss???
SEC up next?
Dalukes cannot miss
Been thinking about the next moves for a while, and I guess my preferred western g5 realignment that consolidates power but preserves geographic and historical rivals is:
OSU/WSU poach SDSU, FSU, Boise, UNLV, CSU, Air Force from the MWC and SMU from a collapsed ACC to form the new Pac X conference. USU, UTSA, Rice, Texas St, and Tulsa are added to fill out the conference and improve its academic and recruiting profile. Tulane and Memphis are left in the AAC due to being in areas facing demographic collapse (at least that’s my justification). Despite most conferences moving past divisions, the new Pac will have east/west divisions to ensure teams have access to their preferred recruiting grounds (Texas in the east/Cali and Utah in the west). Wichita St and Gonzaga are added as olympic sports members to get the conference to 16.
Wyoming and the top half of the big sky merge with the summit with the top fcs teams in those leagues elevating to the MWC. SJSU, Nev join the Big West for oli sports (like UH), UNM the WAC with UTEP/NMSU, who also join a rebuilding MWC (at least temporarily)
I think the PAC-2 will raid the MW and western AAC schools to rebuild. I see the Dakota schools joining the MW to rebuild them.
American conference?
I prefer them to keep the MW Branding. The MW feels like a fun conference on the rise while the new PAC-12 will never live up to the old PAC-12. It shouldn't tru to become the PAC-12 and instead grow as its own thing.
If they didn’t keep either name I don’t think that would bode well unless it’s maybe Pac-West but that sounds a bit tacky.
Honestly think they add Oregon State and Washington State, loose SDSU to the Big 12, and add Montana and Idaho.
More likely to add NDSU than Idaho. Idaho financially couldn't make it in the FBS, that's why they had to step down
@@ascendseraph7834either that or Montana State, since I at times think North Dakota State would Join with South Dakota State, Northern Iowa, and Youngstown State and join the MAC.
Hbcu conferences????????
You are propagating a media lie. SDSU announced their intent to leave the MW. They did not resign the MW. BIG difference. The intent was to provide the MW with time to consider adjustments the MW may need. The thanks they get is a devicesive and deceptive reaction by the very schools who are enjoying the monetary success the Aztecs have brought them.
"Hey, I'm not breaking up with you now, but just a heads up, there's, like, an 85% chance I'm breaking up with you in the next couple of months." - SDSU brass
I don't blame the MW at all for taking that at face value. You want out of here, okay. You come groveling back in two weeks because you loudly told the world you were going to jump without a landing spot? Also okay.
The amount of boot-licking that SDSU have had to do in the past 24 months, makes my lips feel dry. Poor sods
The Group of 5 will eventually merge with the FCS in some way once the Power 4 finally brake away. This will reset College Football back to zero as the Indepdent Power 4 experiment flounders and the new FCS-G5 League succeeds.
no chance this happens
4:52 Bro got salty 😂
I think a Big West video would be cool because it kind of is part of this history with the WAC and MW as some of their former members ended up in those conferences.
And such a unique conference
I always loved the idea of 12 conference is with three conferences in in four regions.
2 groups of 6, and 3 cross protected rivals
Can u do history of the American conference (AAC)
That's basically already done with his video on the big east
@@nateg4582Not entirely, as the current AAC reflects alot of the other non big east CUSA schools.
@@reverend_wintondupreeoh, okay.
What about naming it the PAC West Conference?
Basically, the Pacific Western Conference
Without taking the time to write an essay as to why, I like it. Truly.
There already is a D2 conference call the PAC West. The name is taken and trademarked
@@Alohanate2004 😯Learned something new. So it goes.
Ew
How about Pacific Mountains Conference?
Wyoming catching a stray is insane...
I hope the Pac-2 fully join and Gonzaga comes in, like you said, for basketball only to offset Hawaii. But I also think the ACC and Big XII should swap WVU, UCF, and Cincinnati, with SMU, Cal, and Stanford 🤷♂️
id love to see a history of the west coast conference sometime
We are watching greatness
wheres the SEC video
Gonzaga should join the big east
Gonzaga is in Washington state😂
This dude is going to get all the fcs and d2 conferences eventually lol
I hope so
He's good at these
Because I don't see a new Pac with select MW teams and other key teams, I believe OSU/WSU will join the MW.
If the sec and big 10 split from ncaa. They will straight up lose the only reason they want to move.