Woo Hoo!!!..... LOL Definitely not your typical train video out there where the camera man doesn't say anything. Not saying there anything wrong in that, but I'm me and I do get excited. Thanks Ken for the nice comment and for watching my friend.
I've often wondered why some cars 'squeal' so badly. Great explanation about bad wheel profile. Since I learned how the profile helps guide trucks around curves, it all makes a lot more sense. I suppose those bad profile wheel sets have their flanges rubbing harder against the rail. Another great video, thanks so much for sharing.
Consider this Mike, a wheel with a wheel tread that is getting concaved will mean that the flange is higher. This means more of the flange will be in contact with the gage face of the rail head, thus creating more steel to steel contact, thus more resistance and friction and more of a sound. I've seen flanges so high they actually hit the tops of the joint bars and create a silver streak over the top of the joint bar. Glad you enjoyed the video my friend.
@@ccrx6700 Dave! then you are saying wheels with really high flanges sing the loudest? Am I right in assuming a curve has a lot to do with the singing ?!?
Dave, what a fantastic catch. Your enthusiasm makes me smile and that is a good thing. I sure do appreciate you taking your time to make these videos for us. Keep up the great work. It is so interesting to hear you tell about the trains. Always a learning experience! Thank you!
Thanks for sharing Dave. We have a large Dam here with locks I used to go through the locks a few times a year taking trips on our boat. Its Old Hickory Lock and Dam on the cumberland river.
Was waiting on the other side of the river hoping to catch a street runner when I saw this one, so did some chasing and it paid off, never did catch any street running that day tho. Thanks for the nice comment and for watching my good friend.
Great video Dave! I love watching trains in old, gritty industrial areas, and the story about the 100 year flood was pretty awesome! We have had three 100 year floods here since we owned the property - go figure 😊
4:04 - Excellent axel watching height / spot here. Good info. about the squealing car wheels on-top of the rail. Always wondered about that noise. Did not sound like dry / worn-out wheel bearings. One day off to watch trains - way too funny. Thanks for commenting, etc. 😊
Think about this Jim: As a wheel tread wears and starts to become flat or concaved, that means the flange will become higher because of the wear on the wheel tread. This means that more of the flange will be in contact with the rail head gage face. More contact = more resistance or more friction resulting in a louder pitched squeal than a wheel with a normal flange height. Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching my good man.
Glad you enjoyed John, we do appreciate your writing in and for watching sir. Railroading is a hard way of life, but is a good one too. Great to hear some of your family was out here.
Many of my days off are track side as well. Excellent video Dave, great chase, and thanks for the flood history at the lock, living in the Ohio Valley growing up, I've seen many a flood damage along the Ohio River. So can imagine the carnage you seen that day. Stay safe and thanks for the fun, so nice I watched it twice.
Thank you very much Pappy, really great to hear you enjoyed and we do appreciate the very nice comment and for watching my friend. And I can imagine the Ohio is much worse for flooding than the Mon!
Thank you and glad you enjoyed. No I have not yet made a video of them loading barges here, it's on the list to do, but will be a long time before I get to it. Thanks for the suggestion.
I'm ecstatic to see coal still hauled and continued mining. Coal is still a powerful generating force, too bad the current dimwitted administration doesn't understand this. The road I hired with, the Erie-Lackawanna, former Erie and DL&W hauled coal from the mines in the Scranton area. I took the coal mine tour there about 4 years ago. Scranton, the electric city and home of Steamtown, which was located in Vermont years ago. These are great videos.
Glad you are enjoying Gary. I've been to Steamtown in Scranton, wonderful place, Scranton a very nice clean town. Rode the trolly there too, maybe over some tracks you might have ran on? Thanks for writing in and sharing my friend.
I grew up on Long Island, and the Long Island Rail Road was our major public transit. One station was named after a nearby town named Speonk. The legend developed that there was a stretch of track leading into the station that had a fairly sharp curve. As the train pulled into the station, it would announce the name: "Speeee-yonk!"
Thanks again for a brilliant video, it’s great that you enjoy your job so much that it’s also a kind of hobby for you as well. It’s very much appreciated all the effort and care that you put into your filming. 👍🏻😁
Railfan from down in the Hagerstown area. Love your videos and the energy/enthusiasm you have for the hobby. Can't wait to see new videos uploaded. Thanks!
Your welcome James. Really glad to hear you enjoyed the show today. We do appreciate the very nice comment and for your watching my good man. Got lot's MOW stuff coming up along with some very good railfanning with NS and CSX
Once again, you've answered a question I've had about why some cars squeal so badly and others don't. I thought it might be that in some places the rails were out of gauge, but I guess I was wrong. Thanks for all the insight you provide.
I always learn cool things from your videos - today I think I learned the term "coal drag". I have always said coal train, but you know the real deal :) Kudos for pronouncing Monongahela properly. When I lived in Pittsburgh, most just called it the "Mon" :) I grew up near the Mohawk Barge Canal - some good stories to be told about it especially the various floods!
Coal drag is rather old school originating in the steam era. I like the term as I like old railroading. I figure they called it a a drag because of the heavy "drag" or resistance created by the heavy coal cars. Mon is a lot easier to spell, I always have to look up the proper spelling for the full name when I type it! LOL Thanks for writing in and watching today Brian.
Always fun to be trackside for Class 1 activity. Many of those locks and dams are interesting places to view and often. Times the tow boat has a EMD engine in them so it sounds like GPs or an SD40 floating by
Your right Paul, a lot of the old tow boats had those 645 EMD engines in them. Good old engines that were born to pull. Thanks for writing in and watching today my friend.
Roger, Dave; NORAC rule 72, observation of moving trains:hot journal, sliding wheel, broken wheel, sticking brake, swinging door on freight car or trailer, open plug door, defective truck, dragging equipment, lading shifted over side or end of car. If attention is called to a dangerous situation, the train must be promptly stopped, consistent with good train handling techniques. I've been retired for 9 years this May and still remember my stuff!
They no longer do track side roll by inspections with anywhere near the frequency it used to be. But you hit the nail on the head with all the stuff you gotta look for! Thanks for sharing.
It's really evident why your videos are so informative and entertaining Dave. Your enthusiasm shows through on every video and when you enjoy what you are doing, it really shows in your work. As always, thanks for my nightly youtube entertainment.
Once you get bit by the train bug Dave it forever stays with you, there is no antidote for it!!!! Nice catch on the coal train, when they get moving they generate their own wind pattern!! LOL!! 😜😜😜😜👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks Kristian. As a wheel tread wears and starts to become flat or concaved, that means the flange will become higher because of the wear on the wheel tread. This means that more of the flange will be in contact with the rail head gage face. More contact = more resistance or more friction resulting in a louder pitched squeal than a wheel with a normal flange height.
Dave what another great video. I have thoroughly enjoyed all of your video's. This channel is one of my favorite, the content is awesome. Your knowledge and enthusiasm is why I enyoy watching you. I hope you are having a great day. 😀🇨🇦
Thank you so much Ray, can't tell you how much I do appreciate all your wonderful, complimentary comments you write in and for you support of this channel.
You probably been on that one! Really curious would you have any idea where this train may have originated at? Was on other side of river hoping to get a street runner when I saw this one and chased it. Never did get the street runner tho..... Thanks for watching my friend.
Hi Dave, That was teriffic, thank you.. Haha Network Rail wouldn't half get some complaints if that length of train came across any of our level crossings in the UK! You did your best to show us the docks, perhaps another day when you get your chit signed. Thank you very much for your time to film. Rgds, Peter.
Thank you very much Peter, really great to hear you enjoyed and we do appreciate the very nice comment and for watching my friend. Long trains in this country are hated by motorists at crossings. They have trains in USA up to 15,000 feet, it's wild and really takes some serious skills for an engineer to handle trains of that length. They had to build a special bridge over a track in a nearby town because the folks were really concerned if there was an emergency the rescue vehicles or ambulances would have to wait too long if there was a train going thru.
A lot of fun! Dave, you need to do some railfanning at my favorite crossing: Homeville Road/Crayne School Road near Creek Road. This is east of Waynesburg and near Ten Mile Creek. Great views of the rail line and where it crosses the creek. Good trestle view.
Caught a really unique coal drag here couple weeks ago. NS loads over Stoney Point bridge that had 3 mid DPU. Was over a 12,000 foot long train. Will show that video sometime later in the spring. Was chasing i from Waynesburg and almost went to your crossing, but didn't know if I could make it in time, so opted for Stoney Point. I've never seen that long of a train here and never one with mid units either.
Thank you for the video. Your narrative about the lock/Dam was very interesting. I was not aware of that system on the river (I won't try to spell it :). Thank you again.
Thank you Shane for the nice comment, yes they keep on going. Was very nice of you to take the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.
Oh what a day that was Joe! I was working on the river back then, it was incredible how fast that water came up and the debris that was going down the river. Fredricktown was flooded, barges up on cells, it was a sight.Thanks for writing in my friend. Sure wish I could have found that clip of all the barges stacked up against Maxwell, I've looked 4 times and just can't find it.
I love this part of the country... it's where I grew up! My Mom was from Republic, my Dad from Brier Hill. Brownsville is where some of Dad's siblings lived, out by the old hospital.
Great seeing the coal cars running by. it was interesting to see them in the town . I like to see people using our own commodities produced in this country and not supporting bad individuals that hate the USA. coal is the back bone for energy in this country.
Coal is currently in high demand, US stockpiles are the lowest they've been in years. Overseas demand is very high. At our mine they tell us they can sell all the coal we can produce and they have finalized sales for the next 2 years for all our production. Thanks for watching and writing in my friend.
You were down in my local area. My friend lives in Brownsville and I am from Fayette City, Pennsylvania. When I get things all set up, stop by Fayette City sometime.
Been trying to catch a street runner in West Brownsville for over a year now and can't seem to get one. Have sat for many hours waiting, that what I was doing when I saw this train across the river. Sad to think what this town has become from it's glory days of yesteryear tho, at least Hillman Barge is still in business! Thanks for writing in and watching the video Mark.
Wow Dave pretty cool catching 2 Dash 8's, you don't see that too often. Now that was a southbound loaded coal? I've honestly only ever seen northbound loaded and southbound empties through Belle Vernon. I think the flood your talking about happened in 1986. Thanks for posting Dave👍🏼😎🇺🇸
Glad you enjoyed. It surprised me also bout it going south. Looked on open railway maps and it was headed to Fairmont or Grafton, I have no idea where it came from. Appreciate your writing in and for watching my close neighbor!
Awesome! I am ignorant of what power plants in that area might be there that this coal would be going to, any suggestions? Also would love to know where this train originated.
A bucket list item would be to navigate a lock on one of the three rivers. Allegedly small boats can pass through them, but I don't know how common that is.
Just a short question, but a long answer, I'm sure. The bang, bang, bang we all hear on the American trains of today. Please give us a few answers, like rail damage, wheel damage, what causes the problem. I am a great railfan of your channel, Thank you.
Glad you enjoy the videos Peter. The bang bang you hear is most often a shelled spot on the wheel tread, called flat spots. Not all shelly spots are big enough to make the wheel condemnable. This train had some flats on it but they didn't sound real bad yet. Obviously the worse the bang, the more wear on truck set bearings along with the rail head. Hope that helps sir.
Thanks Pat! I followed the tracks on open railway map to see where they would go, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know what power plants are in that area. Really curious too where the coal originated. Thanks for writing in sir.
@@ccrx6700 I think they may run that way to go back north to McKeesport to switch directions to go east to go towards Cumberland Maryland or they head south through West Virginia to head to the south possibly
You made my day as usual. One day I will explain my situation to you and you will better understand how much it means to me when I say "you made my day."
Really glad to hear that Louis. You are always welcome to write in and share with us as much or as little as you feel comfortable with my friend. Appreciate your watching the show today.
do love a good coal drag even if its pulled by a ge. been busy so don't get around a lot, was in rochelle last week to cold to hit the rail park with mom after doc visits Take care Dave catch up with ya in a bit.
Great video as always. I keep seeing that same repeat graffiti on coal/hopper cars....like what's near the front upper corner of many of those cars....looks like a little white ghost or something. I'd love if someone knew what the deal/origin is with that since it's on SOOO Many cars.
Good George! Watch those bearings too! ....LOL Actually it makes train watching more interesting, at least to me anyway. Thanks for the pretty cool comment and for watching the video my friend.
As a Rail (employee term) you listen and watch what is going on under the car.. trucks, wheels, bearings, hoses.. are retainers set or was a handbrake not knocked off... I worked the Sierra mtns and sometime cars would be drugged down with a set and cars would be sliding an slowly tearing into the rails w/ build up on the wheels just like slag.. crazy.. 😜🤪🤗
Awesome comment Mr. Daylight Dave! Wow, didn't know anyone ever used retainers anymore, thought they were only used back in the days of steam? Appreciate your writing in and for watching the video my friend. And yep when you know to look at those kind of things, makes train watching a lot more interesting!
Great video! So, coal is transloaded into barges for a trip to a power plant? When i was 10 years old, (1960), my dad pulled the right strings, and got me and my sis on a tour of the coal transfer facility at Havana, Illinois. This was followed by a 2 hour ride in the yard switcher, C&IM #23. Can you just imagine a 10 year old kid in his heigth of glory?? We also got a 2 hour stint in the river switcher, the tugboat "Quiver". My sis liked that much better than i did, for some unknown reason. And now you know my e-mail address. (Sort of).
Glad you enjoyed Paul and thanks for sharing your story with us. And yes coal is loaded onto barges at our facility for further transport. Some of our coal comes from the mine via train, then put on barges, taken about 20 miles down river, off loaded and put on CSX trains to Baltimore where it is put on ocean vessels. Lot of moving this stuff around!
Would Have Never Thought Csx Would Have Reactivated Those Dash 8s Good To See Their Still Running..I'm Guessing All The Ex Conrail Dash 8s Are Done For
That would be interesting to trace the history of these locos, don't know if they are ex Conrail or not. thanks for writing in and watching the video, we do appreciate that.
Hi Dave great video the first location was a nice spot to catch trains , not many of the old YN2 paint schemes left . Maxwell lock looks really cool . Be neat if they had some Live Streaming web cams at some of these .
Another nice video-Thanks Dave! Question-those coal cars looked like they have lengthwise doors set very low. Do they carry more coal than the Cumberland Mine cars? If so, a rusted out door piece would be a real mess on one of these cars.
Good observation Alan. They are called bath tub cars. They are not bottom discharge like the hoppers we have at the mine. These will be rotary dumped. Nice cause there no way coal can leak out and foul the ballast. Wish we had them here my friend, would have saved me tons of work from cleaning ballast. Thanks for writing in and watching the video sir.
Can't resist: I admit: At first I was thinking "Brownsville, TX", not "Brownsville, PA". Oh, dopey me. LOL! If anyone's interested, the train was 2 locos with EXACTLY 100 cars.
Probably unless your from around here, nobody knows about Brownsville Pa. Gonna have some more CSX stuff out sometime, we caught CSX flat switching at Connellsville last week on my day off.
You very well could be right, Brownsville got some pretty old buildings and would have fit the scenery in that series pretty good, plus it got a lot of old RR history here.
Answer to your question: Yes if he's got his cell phone bill paid up. If so, I'm sure he watches all the rail cams and my videos too! LOL Glad you enjoyed Robert and thanks for watching.
But do you still put pennies on the track and then try to find them? Having a penny with old Abe's face still visible after being rolled flat was always able to be traded for something.
Thank you very much for this very interesting and informative video presentation which is very much appreciated by the people. That CSX train was certainly moving at some speed, I take it that the dark blue is the most recent colour scheme on the locomotives. It was also interesting to see the dam and the information about the flood was interesting also. Do they have tugs that pull a number of barges behind them?
Thank you very much John, really great to hear you enjoyed and we do appreciate the very nice comment and for watching my friend. it would have been pretty cool had we seen a tow boat coming out of the locks when I was there, but didn't catch one.
I always wondered why some wheels had the squeals and others ran quiet, I never thought about the wear changing the shape caused it. Another thing I have often thought about is how much side to side movement there is. Gauge is always measured back to back between the flanges. I have seen wheels that look to have about half an inch gap between the edge of the rail and flange. Are there different wheel profile gauges to measure the amount of wear. Sorry the video of the flood damage could not be found Hope it turns up one day it sounds an incredible sight
As a wheel tread wears and starts to become flat or concaved, that means the flange will become higher because of the wear on the wheel tread. This means that more of the flange will be in contact with the rail head gage face. More contact = more resistance or more friction resulting in a louder pitched squeal than a wheel with a normal flange height. Yes there are wheel flange and tread wear gauges and someday will make a video on how they are used. Also remember that when going into, thru and out of a curve the front wheel set will be flanged against the high rail and the rear wheel set will be flanged against the low rail, if that is what you were referring to with the gap?
@@ccrx6700 OK Thanks Dave I get how it makes the squeal different now I have learned something today Makes me happy. With the gap thats not quite what I mean but yes I have noticed how the lead set is hard on the high rail and rear one has the flange on the low one Trains do not like curves and try to keep a straight line. The gap I mean is the one when the high rail flange is against the rail what gap is there between the low rail flange and rail on the same axle. When you get the wheel wear gauges explained I hope you can show a view with the cam on each rail top looking towards the wheel and if on a curve should show daylight on one side and not the other.
@@ccrx6700 OK Thanks Dave I asked a wagon examiner once and he said they only measure the wear and flange back to back measurement so this one has always puzzled me.
Good guess Aaron, but I was sitting on the west Brownsville side where a Baily train would have to go thru when I saw this train across the river. Was hoping to catch a Baily train that day street running thru West Brownsville, but that didnt' happen. Thanks for watching sir.
Yep and no one ever thinks about that Mark! realistically speaking at some point in time coal will be phased out for power generation, however this is going to take 75 to 100 years to accomplish from what the energy experts I'm reading are saying before replacement technology can be put in place. And then no one has figured out yet how to make steel without coal. So no steel = no new electric cars either.....LOL
Most of the coal trains here only have the 2 units out front. Very rare to see a coal train here with mid or EOT DPU's. I did catch an NS train the other day that was over 12,000 feet and had 3 mid DPU, extremely rare for here and will show that video sometime later in the spring. Appreciate your writing in and for watching my friend.
Depends on the size of the flat spot whether a RR is required to take the car out of service. Those on this train didn't sound real bad, but not only is leaving a car with a FRA defective wheel in service a fed violation, it is also hard on the truckset wheel bearings and the rail head. Good question and thanks for watching and hope that helps.
Awesome video Dave and how cool is it that you get to be a KID AT HEART like us RAILFANS! 100 cars exactly on that COAL DRAG! Thanks for sharing this video Dave and hope you're doing well! Did you get my address I left from the last post you did?
Not sure Who gets more Excited, A Kid in a fully stocked Candy Store or Dave Out on the Railroad ? 😬👍
Dave lol 😂👏🏻
Definitely Dave
Woo Hoo!!!..... LOL Definitely not your typical train video out
there where the camera man doesn't say anything. Not saying there
anything wrong in that, but I'm me and I do get excited. Thanks Ken
for the nice comment and for watching my friend.
I've often wondered why some cars 'squeal' so badly. Great explanation about bad wheel profile. Since I learned how the profile helps guide trucks around curves, it all makes a lot more sense. I suppose those bad profile wheel sets have their flanges rubbing harder against the rail.
Another great video, thanks so much for sharing.
Consider this Mike, a wheel with a wheel tread that is getting
concaved will mean that the flange is higher. This means more of the flange will be in contact with the gage face of the rail head, thus
creating more steel to steel contact, thus more resistance and
friction and more of a sound. I've seen flanges so high they
actually hit the tops of the joint bars and create a silver streak
over the top of the joint bar. Glad you enjoyed the video my friend.
@@ccrx6700 Dave! then you are saying wheels with really high flanges sing the loudest? Am I right in assuming a curve has a lot to do with the singing ?!?
@@capttom7772 yes sir you are right in both counts sir
Dave, what a fantastic catch. Your enthusiasm makes me smile and that is a good thing. I sure do appreciate you taking your time to make these videos for us. Keep up the great work. It is so interesting to hear you tell about the trains. Always a learning experience! Thank you!
Thank you very much Tom, really great to hear you enjoyed and
we do appreciate the very nice comment and for watching my friend.
Thanks for sharing Dave. We have a large Dam here with locks I used to go through the locks a few times a year taking trips on our boat. Its Old Hickory Lock and Dam on the cumberland river.
Your welcome and glad you enjoyed the show today my friend,
we do appreciate your watching.
Thank you for sharing Dave! No one loves the railroad more than you!
Thank you very much Raymond, really great to hear you enjoyed and
we do appreciate the very nice comment and for watching my friend.
Wow, look at that! A CM40-8W and a C40-8W! Great catch! It's great to see CSX placing old power back into service!
Glad you enjoyed Eric we do appreciate your watching sir.
@@ccrx6700 Thanks for sharing another adventure!
I love how small town commemorate veterans with those flags of them on the light poles.
Yes it is nice Mike! I actually hadn't noticed those flags until
you mentioned it. Appreciate your writing in and for watching
my friend.
@@ccrx6700 Thanks for sharing your experiences with us Dave. Appreciate that and love coming along with you.
@@mikeznel6048 😊
Even on your day off you can't stay away from trains. Glad to see trains makes you so happy Dave. 😃
Thank you very much Rick, really great to hear you enjoyed and
we do appreciate the very nice comment and for watching my friend.
I enjoyed the excursion. Appreciate being included. Your enthusiasm on these trips makes travel with you such fun. Beautiful scenery.
Really glad you enjoyed Shirley. Glad you could come along for
the ride my friend.
I'm so glad you showed the dam! I love dams almost as much as we all love the trains! 😄
Glad you enjoyed, wish I could have gotten closer Zachary,
but didn't want to get arrested and have to call you for bail money.....LOL
Dave thanks for spending your day off with us. Great train catch and I enjoyed the view of the lock. Have a great day.
Thank you very much Lewis, really great to hear you enjoyed and
we do appreciate the very nice comment and for watching my friend.
Hey Dave !! WOW !! you were lucky to get that catch !! Thanks !! Have a good week & Hope ALL stays together on the rails up there !!
Was waiting on the other side of the river hoping to catch a
street runner when I saw this one, so did some chasing and
it paid off, never did catch any street running that day tho.
Thanks for the nice comment and for watching my good friend.
Thanks Dave, love your info in the commentary
Thank you very much Tom, really great to hear you enjoyed and
we do appreciate the very nice comment and for watching my friend.
Great video Dave! I love watching trains in old, gritty industrial areas, and the story about the 100 year flood was pretty awesome! We have had three 100 year floods here since we owned the property - go figure 😊
Thank you very much, really great to hear you enjoyed and
we do appreciate the very nice comment and for watching my friend.
4:04 - Excellent axel watching height / spot here. Good info. about the squealing car wheels on-top of the rail. Always wondered about that noise. Did not sound like dry / worn-out wheel bearings. One day off to watch trains - way too funny. Thanks for commenting, etc. 😊
Think about this Jim: As a wheel tread wears and starts to become
flat or concaved, that means the flange will become higher because
of the wear on the wheel tread. This means that more of the
flange will be in contact with the rail head gage face. More contact
= more resistance or more friction resulting in a louder pitched
squeal than a wheel with a normal flange height. Glad you enjoyed
the video and thanks for watching my good man.
Rail fanning on your day off. the mark of a true railroader. Enjoy your videos. Several of my family members were railroaders.
Glad you enjoyed John, we do appreciate your writing in and for
watching sir. Railroading is a hard way of life, but is a good one too.
Great to hear some of your family was out here.
Many of my days off are track side as well. Excellent video Dave, great chase, and thanks for the flood history at the lock, living in the Ohio Valley growing up, I've seen many a flood damage along the Ohio River. So can imagine the carnage you seen that day. Stay safe and thanks for the fun, so nice I watched it twice.
Thank you very much Pappy, really great to hear you enjoyed and
we do appreciate the very nice comment and for watching my friend.
And I can imagine the Ohio is much worse for flooding than the Mon!
Very cool Dave! Have you ever posted a video of the barge trans load at your mine? Keep up the great work!
Thank you and glad you enjoyed. No I have not yet made a video
of them loading barges here, it's on the list to do, but will be a
long time before I get to it. Thanks for the suggestion.
Agree. Would love to see the rail transfer to barge.👍
I'm ecstatic to see coal still hauled and continued mining. Coal is still a powerful generating force, too bad the current dimwitted administration doesn't understand this. The road I hired with, the Erie-Lackawanna, former Erie and DL&W hauled coal from the mines in the Scranton area. I took the coal mine tour there about 4 years ago. Scranton, the electric city and home of Steamtown, which was located in Vermont years ago. These are great videos.
Glad you are enjoying Gary. I've been to Steamtown in Scranton,
wonderful place, Scranton a very nice clean town. Rode the trolly
there too, maybe over some tracks you might have ran on?
Thanks for writing in and sharing my friend.
I grew up on Long Island, and the Long Island Rail Road was our major public transit. One station was named after a nearby town named Speonk. The legend developed that there was a stretch of track leading into the station that had a fairly sharp curve. As the train pulled into the station, it would announce the name: "Speeee-yonk!"
Thanks again for a brilliant video, it’s great that you enjoy your job so much that it’s also a kind of hobby for you as well.
It’s very much appreciated all the effort and care that you put into your filming. 👍🏻😁
Glad you enjoyed the video Chris, we do appreciate your writing in
and for watching today my friend.
Railfan from down in the Hagerstown area. Love your videos and the energy/enthusiasm you have for the hobby. Can't wait to see new videos uploaded. Thanks!
Your welcome James. Really glad to hear you enjoyed the show
today. We do appreciate the very nice comment and for your
watching my good man. Got lot's MOW stuff coming up along
with some very good railfanning with NS and CSX
Excellent Video! Always heard of Maxwell Lock & Dam---first time ever to see it!
Thanx for the ride Dave! Good info on those wheels "SINGING OFF KEY"!😂😱🤣
Thank you very much CaptainTom, really great to hear you enjoyed and we do appreciate the very nice comment and for watching my friend.
Once again, you've answered a question I've had about why some cars squeal so badly and others don't. I thought it might be that in some places the rails were out of gauge, but I guess I was wrong. Thanks for all the insight you provide.
Thank you Bod glad you enjoyed the show my friend.
I always learn cool things from your videos - today I think I learned the term "coal drag". I have always said coal train, but you know the real deal :) Kudos for pronouncing Monongahela properly. When I lived in Pittsburgh, most just called it the "Mon" :) I grew up near the Mohawk Barge Canal - some good stories to be told about it especially the various floods!
Coal drag is rather old school originating in the steam era. I like
the term as I like old railroading. I figure they called it a a drag
because of the heavy "drag" or resistance created by the heavy
coal cars. Mon is a lot easier to spell, I always have to look
up the proper spelling for the full name when I type it! LOL Thanks
for writing in and watching today Brian.
@@ccrx6700 I like old railroading too. Just down the road from my childhood home was an Alco engine plant :)
Always fun to be trackside for Class 1 activity. Many of those locks and dams are interesting places to view and often. Times the tow boat has a EMD engine in them so it sounds like GPs or an SD40 floating by
Your right Paul, a lot of the old tow boats had those 645 EMD
engines in them. Good old engines that were born to pull.
Thanks for writing in and watching today my friend.
Great catch. This is one of the better videos of a coal train that I have seen on RUclips.
Wow Jeff! That is quite a nice thing to say, I'm flattered.
Really appreciate your nice comment and for watching my friend.
Roger, Dave; NORAC rule 72, observation of moving trains:hot journal, sliding wheel, broken wheel, sticking brake, swinging door on freight car or trailer, open plug door, defective truck, dragging equipment, lading shifted over side or end of car. If attention is called to a dangerous situation, the train must be promptly stopped, consistent with good train handling techniques. I've been retired for 9 years this May and still remember my stuff!
They no longer do track side roll by inspections with anywhere
near the frequency it used to be. But you hit the nail on the head
with all the stuff you gotta look for! Thanks for sharing.
Good morning to you too.
It's really evident why your videos are so informative and entertaining Dave. Your enthusiasm shows through on every video and when you enjoy what you are doing, it really shows in your work. As always, thanks for my nightly youtube entertainment.
Thank you very much Alex, really great to hear you enjoyed and
we do appreciate the very nice comment and for watching my friend.
Thats why your railroad likes you; you take notice of other railroads and listen unto your own. ..among other good reasons.
They like me cause I can pass a drug test.....LOL Seriously tho,
thanks for the nice comment and for watching Gerg.
Once you get bit by the train bug
Dave it forever stays with you,
there is no antidote for it!!!!
Nice catch on the coal train,
when they get moving they generate
their own wind pattern!! LOL!!
😜😜😜😜👍👍👍👍👍👍
Yep, railroading gets in your blood and you can't get it out.
Thanks for your always nice comments my friend, do
appreciate your watching sir.
Today I learned that the squeal depends on the wheel profile. That's railroadin'! :D Thanks, Dave!
Thanks Kristian. As a wheel tread wears and starts to become
flat or concaved, that means the flange will become higher because
of the wear on the wheel tread. This means that more of the
flange will be in contact with the rail head gage face. More contact
= more resistance or more friction resulting in a louder pitched
squeal than a wheel with a normal flange height.
Dave what another great video. I have thoroughly enjoyed all of your video's. This channel is one of my favorite, the content is awesome. Your knowledge and enthusiasm is why I enyoy watching you. I hope you are having a great day. 😀🇨🇦
Thank you so much Ray, can't tell you how much I do
appreciate all your wonderful, complimentary comments you
write in and for you support of this channel.
Good Ole Loveridge Secondary!
You probably been on that one! Really curious would you have
any idea where this train may have originated at? Was on other side of river hoping to get a street runner when I saw this one and chased it.
Never did get the street runner tho.....
Thanks for watching my friend.
Really appreciate the history lesson Dave Thanks.
Your welcome Derrick, glad you enjoyed and thank you for the
nice comment my friend.
Great video!! Thank You for sharing this with us!!
Thank you Johnathan, really glad you enjoyed watching the show today my friend.
Hi Dave,
That was teriffic, thank you..
Haha Network Rail wouldn't half get some complaints if that length of train came across any of our level crossings in the UK!
You did your best to show us the docks, perhaps another day when you get your chit signed.
Thank you very much for your time to film.
Rgds, Peter.
Thank you very much Peter, really great to hear you enjoyed and
we do appreciate the very nice comment and for watching my friend.
Long trains in this country are hated by motorists at crossings.
They have trains in USA up to 15,000 feet, it's wild and really
takes some serious skills for an engineer to handle trains
of that length. They had to build a special bridge over a track in
a nearby town because the folks were really concerned if there
was an emergency the rescue vehicles or ambulances would
have to wait too long if there was a train going thru.
What do railroaders do on their day off? Watch trains! My grandkids laugh when we see a train go by and I say “There goes Fred” That’s railroadin!
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Always love your videos with all the neat tidbits of info. You sure love what you do and it shows! Thanks a heap for sharing, and stay well!
Thank you very much Trena, really great to hear you enjoyed and
we do appreciate the very nice comment and for watching my friend.
Great looking CSX coal train video Dave.
Glad you enjoyed Steve, we do appreciate your tuning in my friend.
Neat echo there on the second time you caught it, right after the first horn blast. Have a nice day Dave.
I didn't notice that, will got back and watch it again. Glad
you enjoyed Anthony, we do appreciate your support of our
channel my friend.
Hi Dave nice catch, you video was nice and clear and crisp great picture quality.
Thank you very much Russell, really great to hear you enjoyed and
we do appreciate the very nice comment and for watching my friend.
Thank you for the lecture. You made my day
Glad you enjoyed Thomas, appreciate the nice comment my friend.
Nice catch Dave! That was a cool Dam, Lock!
Thanks Brian, glad you enjoyed the video my friend.
A lot of fun! Dave, you need to do some railfanning at my favorite crossing: Homeville Road/Crayne School Road near Creek Road. This is east of Waynesburg and near Ten Mile Creek. Great views of the rail line and where it crosses the creek. Good trestle view.
Caught a really unique coal drag here couple weeks ago. NS loads over Stoney Point bridge that had 3 mid DPU. Was over a 12,000 foot
long train. Will show that video sometime later in the spring. Was chasing i from Waynesburg and almost went to your crossing,
but didn't know if I could make it in time, so opted for Stoney Point.
I've never seen that long of a train here and never one with mid
units either.
Really appreciate the history lesson you provided. Catching that train was also cool.
Thank you John, really appreciate your nice comment and
for watching my friend.
Thank you for the video. Your narrative about the lock/Dam was very interesting. I was not aware of that system on the river (I won't try to spell it :). Thank you again.
Your welcome and I always have to look up the word to spell it too!
Most folks here just call it the Mon. Glad you enjoyed the
show my friend.
Awesome old Dash-8s, those are very old locomotives
Thank you Shane for the nice comment, yes they keep on going. Was very nice of you to take the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.
I grew up in Brownsville and I clearly remember the flood of 85. A couple of the barge's hit that bridge in Brownsville. Great Video my friend.
Oh what a day that was Joe! I was working on the river back
then, it was incredible how fast that water came up and the
debris that was going down the river. Fredricktown was flooded,
barges up on cells, it was a sight.Thanks for writing in my friend.
Sure wish I could have found that clip of all the barges stacked
up against Maxwell, I've looked 4 times and just
can't find it.
I helped with the aftermath of that flood, hauling People's belongings away. Very, Very heart breaking.
I love this part of the country... it's where I grew up! My Mom was from Republic, my Dad from Brier Hill. Brownsville is where some of Dad's siblings lived, out by the old hospital.
Great seeing the coal cars running by. it was interesting to see them in the
town . I like to see people using our own commodities produced in this
country and not supporting bad individuals that hate the USA.
coal is the back bone for energy in this country.
Coal is currently in high demand, US stockpiles are the lowest
they've been in years. Overseas demand is very high. At our mine
they tell us they can sell all the coal we can produce and they
have finalized sales for the next 2 years for all our production.
Thanks for watching and writing in my friend.
You were down in my local area. My friend lives in Brownsville and I am from Fayette City, Pennsylvania.
When I get things all set up, stop by Fayette City sometime.
Been trying to catch a street runner in West Brownsville for
over a year now and can't seem to get one. Have sat for many
hours waiting, that what I was doing when I saw this train across
the river. Sad to think what this town has become from it's
glory days of yesteryear tho, at least Hillman Barge is still
in business! Thanks for writing in and watching the video Mark.
Another great video! That looked like a quiet day in December. See you soon!
Thank you Valerie, really glad you like today's show my friend.
Wow Dave pretty cool catching 2 Dash 8's, you don't see that too often. Now that was a southbound loaded coal? I've honestly only ever seen northbound loaded and southbound empties through Belle Vernon. I think the flood your talking about happened in 1986. Thanks for posting Dave👍🏼😎🇺🇸
Glad you enjoyed. It surprised me also bout it going south.
Looked on open railway maps and it was headed to Fairmont or
Grafton, I have no idea where it came from. Appreciate your
writing in and for watching my close neighbor!
I just saw 7895 in Grafton, WV Yesterday
Awesome! I am ignorant of what power plants in that area
might be there that this coal would be going to, any suggestions?
Also would love to know where this train originated.
Thanks for another train videos. Woohoo live action of trains.👍👍☕🍩
Thank you very much Dan, really glad you enjoyed this one my
friend!
A bucket list item would be to navigate a lock on one of the three rivers. Allegedly small boats can pass through them, but I don't know how common that is.
They do here sometimes Matt, but the lock masters hate them.
Go thru a water level change just for a small boat or 2.
@@ccrx6700 so get a bigger boat? 🤣
Really nice. Thanks Dave.
Glad you enjoyed Bill, we do appreciate your writing in
and for watching my friend.
@@ccrx6700 I just love seeing what you are going to come up with next.
@Bill Smith you will be surprised! Lots has happened and lots cool videos to show got enough made right now to show thru end of july
@@ccrx6700 bring em on. We are ready.
Just a short question, but a long answer, I'm sure. The bang, bang, bang we all hear on the American trains of today. Please give us a few answers, like rail damage, wheel damage, what causes the problem. I am a great railfan of your channel, Thank you.
Glad you enjoy the videos Peter. The bang bang you hear is most
often a shelled spot on the wheel tread, called flat spots. Not all shelly spots are big enough to make the wheel condemnable. This train had some flats on it but they didn't sound real bad yet. Obviously the
worse the bang, the more wear on truck set bearings along
with the rail head. Hope that helps sir.
I believe he’s going to fairmont and probably up towards Grafton West Virginia
Thanks Pat! I followed the tracks on open railway map to
see where they would go, but I'm not knowledgeable enough
to know what power plants are in that area. Really curious
too where the coal originated. Thanks for writing in sir.
@@ccrx6700 I think they may run that way to go back north to McKeesport to switch directions to go east to go towards Cumberland Maryland or they head south through West Virginia to head to the south possibly
You made my day as usual. One day I will explain my situation to you and you will better understand how much it means to me when I say "you made my day."
Really glad to hear that Louis. You are always welcome to write in
and share with us as much or as little as you feel comfortable with
my friend. Appreciate your watching the show today.
do love a good coal drag even if its pulled by a ge. been busy so don't get around a lot, was in rochelle last week to cold to hit the rail park with mom after doc visits
Take care Dave catch up with ya in a bit.
Glad you enjoyed the show today Kenn. Send me an email and
let me know how things are going my friend.
I always heard the wheels do that and I never knew why now I do
You need to catch one at Poland Mines crossing the trussel by the Dillinar store. Or at the old Shannapon load out.
That would be a good video for you to make Mike! It would be a good place for sure.
Great video as always. I keep seeing that same repeat graffiti on coal/hopper cars....like what's near the front upper corner of many of those cars....looks like a little white ghost or something. I'd love if someone knew what the deal/origin is with that since it's on SOOO Many cars.
Glad you enjoyed J M, we do appreciate your writing in
and for watching sir.
That was a doozy of a train. Awesome 👍👍. Great video Dave!
Glad you enjoyed Dennis, appreciate your watching the show today
my friend.
Thxs to you bud, I can't enjoy train videos like u use to. You have me listening for Flat spots now... Lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Good George! Watch those bearings too! ....LOL Actually it
makes train watching more interesting, at least to me anyway.
Thanks for the pretty cool comment and for watching the video
my friend.
As a Rail (employee term) you listen and watch what is going on under the car.. trucks, wheels, bearings, hoses.. are retainers set or was a handbrake not knocked off... I worked the Sierra mtns and sometime cars would be drugged down with a set and cars would be sliding an slowly tearing into the rails w/ build up on the wheels just like slag.. crazy.. 😜🤪🤗
Awesome comment Mr. Daylight Dave! Wow, didn't know anyone
ever used retainers anymore, thought they were only used back
in the days of steam? Appreciate your writing in and for watching
the video my friend. And yep when you know to look at those
kind of things, makes train watching a lot more interesting!
Awesome catch!
Thanks and glad you enjoyed the show. We do appreciate your
nice comment and for watching today my good man.
Great videos
Thank you very much sir, happy to hear you are enjoying the home
movies.
Great video that was awesome
Glad you enjoyed my friend we do appreciate your watching sir.
Coal Headed South probably Mt Storm Power plant in WV.
Thanks for the info Mike! I was wondering where it would go to.
Appreciate your writing in and for watching my friend, and hope you
are doing well.
Great video! So, coal is transloaded into barges for a trip to a power plant? When i was 10 years old, (1960), my dad pulled the right strings, and got me and my sis on a tour of the coal transfer facility at Havana, Illinois. This was followed by a 2 hour ride in the yard switcher, C&IM #23. Can you just imagine a 10 year old kid in his heigth of glory?? We also got a 2 hour stint in the river switcher, the tugboat "Quiver". My sis liked that much better than i did, for some unknown reason. And now you know my e-mail address. (Sort of).
Glad you enjoyed Paul and thanks for sharing your story with us.
And yes coal is loaded onto barges at our facility for further transport.
Some of our coal comes from the mine via train, then put on barges,
taken about 20 miles down river, off loaded and put on CSX trains
to Baltimore where it is put on ocean vessels. Lot of moving this
stuff around!
Would Have Never Thought Csx Would Have Reactivated Those Dash 8s Good To See Their Still Running..I'm Guessing All The Ex Conrail Dash 8s Are Done For
That would be interesting to trace the history of these locos,
don't know if they are ex Conrail or not. thanks for writing in
and watching the video, we do appreciate that.
Awesome catch two c40-8!!!
Glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching Mr. C&O.
Hi Dave great video the first location was a nice spot to catch trains , not many of the old YN2 paint schemes left . Maxwell lock looks really cool . Be neat if they had some Live Streaming web cams at some of these .
Thank you Jerry, glad you enjoyed. I've heard the term YN2 before
but don't know what it means. Appreciate your viewing today
my friend.
@@ccrx6700 YN2 is the blue /gray &yellow paint
Whoah, it's tha Tubby Train!
Thanks for watching the video, we do appreciate that.
Great video Dave and keep railroadin
Glad you enjoyed Mike, we do appreciate your watching sir.
I think around 2000 there was the flood here in Quakertown. Last year or the year before here we had a flood again. 14 inches in less than 20 hours
Wow that's unbelievable amount of rain in that short time. Hope
you fared well and headed for high ground.
Another nice video-Thanks Dave! Question-those coal cars looked like they have lengthwise doors set very low. Do they carry more coal than the Cumberland Mine cars? If so, a rusted out door piece would be a real mess on one of these cars.
Good observation Alan. They are called bath tub cars. They
are not bottom discharge like the hoppers we have at the mine.
These will be rotary dumped. Nice cause there no way coal
can leak out and foul the ballast. Wish we had them here my friend,
would have saved me tons of work from cleaning ballast. Thanks
for writing in and watching the video sir.
Great video Dave 👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed Ron, we do appreciate your watching sir.
Can't resist: I admit: At first I was thinking "Brownsville, TX", not "Brownsville, PA". Oh, dopey me. LOL!
If anyone's interested, the train was 2 locos with EXACTLY 100 cars.
Probably unless your from around here, nobody knows about
Brownsville Pa. Gonna have some more CSX stuff out sometime,
we caught CSX flat switching at Connellsville last week on my day
off.
I think this was one of the places where they filmed for the series American Rust
I remember them saying Brownsville
You very well could be right, Brownsville got some pretty old
buildings and would have fit the scenery in that series pretty good,
plus it got a lot of old RR history here.
You're informative on interesting details. Thank you. The real scientific question is, out in the woods does Sasquatch watch trains the way we do?
Answer to your question: Yes if he's got his cell phone bill paid up.
If so, I'm sure he watches all the rail cams and my videos too! LOL
Glad you enjoyed Robert and thanks for watching.
The good lady wife must often sit in the passenger seat and just gently shake her head and say yes dear another train lol 🤣
LOL, yes she does but this time I didn;t take her with me, her loss!
Thanks for writing in and watching Tim, we do appreciate that.
Good video David
Glad to hear you enjoyed the home movie James, we do appreciate
your tuning in and watching my friend.
That ghost graffiti is on every dam gondola. Or whatever it is.
But do you still put pennies on the track and then try to find them? Having a penny with old Abe's face still visible after being rolled flat was always able to be traded for something.
Thanks for sharing that, I never knew that about his face.
Appreciate your writing in and watching Big'un44
The 7895 is a CW40-8
Thank you very much for this very interesting and informative video presentation which is very much appreciated by the people. That CSX train was certainly moving at some speed, I take it that the dark blue is the most recent colour scheme on the locomotives. It was also interesting to see the dam and the information about the flood was interesting also. Do they have tugs that pull a number of barges behind them?
Thank you very much John, really great to hear you enjoyed and
we do appreciate the very nice comment and for watching my friend.
it would have been pretty cool had we seen a tow boat coming out
of the locks when I was there, but didn't catch one.
The 7801 is a CW44AC it was modified with a new crew cab rail cleaners and DP capability
The 7895 is a CW40-8
Thanks for sharing that info with us Benjamin! We appreciate
your watching the video sir.
I always wondered why some wheels had the squeals and others ran quiet, I never thought about the wear changing the shape caused it. Another thing I have often thought about is how much side to side movement there is. Gauge is always measured back to back between the flanges. I have seen wheels that look to have about half an inch gap between the edge of the rail and flange. Are there different wheel profile gauges to measure the amount of wear. Sorry the video of the flood damage could not be found Hope it turns up one day it sounds an incredible sight
As a wheel tread wears and starts to become
flat or concaved, that means the flange will become higher because
of the wear on the wheel tread. This means that more of the
flange will be in contact with the rail head gage face. More contact
= more resistance or more friction resulting in a louder pitched
squeal than a wheel with a normal flange height.
Yes there are wheel flange and tread wear gauges and someday
will make a video on how they are used. Also remember that when
going into, thru and out of a curve the front wheel set will be
flanged against the high rail and the rear wheel set will be flanged
against the low rail, if that is what you were referring to with the gap?
@@ccrx6700 OK Thanks Dave I get how it makes the squeal different now I have learned something today Makes me happy. With the gap thats not quite what I mean but yes I have noticed how the lead set is hard on the high rail and rear one has the flange on the low one Trains do not like curves and try to keep a straight line. The gap I mean is the one when the high rail flange is against the rail what gap is there between the low rail flange and rail on the same axle. When you get the wheel wear gauges explained I hope you can show a view with the cam on each rail top looking towards the wheel and if on a curve should show daylight on one side and not the other.
@cedarcam okay gotcha and your right. Not sure the exact measurement but somewhere around a half inch, depends on amount of flange wear
@@ccrx6700 OK Thanks Dave I asked a wagon examiner once and he said they only measure the wear and flange back to back measurement so this one has always puzzled me.
@@cedarcam 😊
The train more than likely was loaded at the Bailey Mine complex.
Good guess Aaron, but I was sitting on the west Brownsville
side where a Baily train would have to go thru when I saw this
train across the river. Was hoping to catch a Baily train
that day street running thru West Brownsville, but that didnt'
happen. Thanks for watching sir.
Coal = Electric Vehicle Fuel!
Yep and no one ever thinks about that Mark! realistically speaking
at some point in time coal will be phased out for power
generation, however this is going to take 75 to 100 years to
accomplish from what the energy experts I'm reading are saying
before replacement technology can be put in place. And then
no one has figured out yet how to make steel without coal.
So no steel = no new electric cars either.....LOL
110 Car Drag....if hes loaded I am surprised he does not have any DPU's at the end!
Most of the coal trains here only have the 2 units out front.
Very rare to see a coal train here with mid or EOT DPU's.
I did catch an NS train the other day that was over 12,000 feet
and had 3 mid DPU, extremely rare for here and will show that
video sometime later in the spring. Appreciate your writing in
and for watching my friend.
Nice Catch!! what direction are they headed, east or west? I saw 7895 a few weeks ago in Grafton, WV so maybe originated around there.
They were headed south towards Fairmont/Grafton, so possibly this
train is on a steady run ? Glad you enjoyed the video my friend.
That coal train had at least 5 cars with flat spot wheels. Aside from noise - is this a problem or just railroading.
Depends on the size of the flat spot whether a RR is required to
take the car out of service. Those on this train didn't sound real
bad, but not only is leaving a car with a FRA defective wheel in
service a fed violation, it is also hard on the truckset wheel bearings and the rail head. Good question and thanks for watching and hope
that helps.
The sounds you here is that from track problems or car problems?
Car wheels. track seems to be in fine shape.
Awesome video Dave and how cool is it that you get to be a KID AT HEART like us RAILFANS! 100 cars exactly on that COAL DRAG! Thanks for sharing this video Dave and hope you're doing well! Did you get my address I left from the last post you did?
No I did not get an address from you Shawn. Glad you enjoyed this
video my friend.