Meades is brilliant. His equally good documentaries on Joe building (Soviet architecture) and on Italian Fascist architecture, which are here on RUclips, should also be watched. They are brilliantly perceptive, hugely erudite and very very funny. He's a treasure, dare I say it.
Am quite sure that he wouldn't thank me for saying it but for the past 25 years I've found Jonathan Meades to be the most provocative, funny and informed documentary maker on television. Also, the camera work is an object lesson in composition. It only saddens me that just two thousand hits have been made for this broadcast.
Where exactly do you see an expression of a "hatred of everything German"? I have my problems with Meades, but a Germanophobe he is most certainly not. Check out his documentary "Magnetic North".
i greatly appreciate that throughout all of this he has an obviously open contempt for the nazis and everything they stood for. i wish that was the default position of all people tbh
my tought exactly. It's about as objective as the youtube comment section. Every fucking time he says sneaky little things "swastika = perversion of the cross"... Dude just say what it means and let me think what i want !
Since then, they faked the moon landings then knocked down their own twin towers of economic warfare followed by not only killing all life on the planet but any possibility of future life on the planet for 100,000 years or more. Fukushima is an extinction level event. Nazis never even used chemical weapons and are now nuke free. They planned for 1000 years into the future. British and their grotesque american stepchildren simply take the money and run.
At one point Meades, by way of analogy, utters the phrase 'Imagine a United States of America where EVERYONE is a member of the Ku Klux Klan'... In 2021, what once was barely imaginable now takes barely any imagination at all.
The Nazis did not invent Neoclassical architecture, though they did overapply in the extreme. However, one should not judge an entire style by a handful of its practitioners. The Neoclassical style is more often than not a perfect embodiment of beauty, style and function - which is why it's present in all corners of the world.
I like Meades "snarkiness", even though his opinions irritate me quite often. I think though, he is able to create thoroughly interesting, charming and thought provoking documentaries, partly despite and partly because of this . There is much to quibble over in various aspects of his analysis, not least for me, his obviously materialist view of the world, but I'm always drawn to see his films to the end. He does say somewhere near the beginning of this piece that all ideologies and religions are inherently divisive and for that I give him due credit.
Looking at these comments, I must add that any criticism of some of his points is not Nazism. The essence of Nazism is that there is no free exchange of ideas. No private ideas, no private person. Therefore, his essay should be discussed. as a free society does. Much of what he says, I agree with, but not all.
+Sarah Lunafire Except this is neither irritating nor obnoxious. JM makes the most intelligent, witty, erudite TV programmes available today. Always informative, assumes the viewer has brain cells and can use them, and is never boring. A refreshing change from reality tv, endless cookery and soap operas. Wish he'd make more programmes, but sadly commissioners aren't interested in making intelligent television anymore.
Here and there, J. Meades' Secularist prejudices manage to bleed through. His facts are compelling, but his opinions often tread the land of poetic bitterness.
Why can we not see the inside of these buildings? Some of them are pretty cool and unique. I mean I'm sure they are in ruin, but I'd still like to see more than a momentary glance of the exterior.
@@GodOfVictory501 Absolute fucking rubbish. Nazis are cunts, period. But condemn an entire nation for their crimes? Bullshit. Or are all Americans bastards because Trump was (and perhaps will be again) voted into power?
what I am saying is that it is hypocritical,, I thought that was clear but I guess not,, and I guess that the new moral standard is as long as you dont know about the slavery then your ok and moral,, is that whay your trying to say? I think that it is outrageous what we accept today,, and it is not moral to not inform yourself about what is going on so that way you cant be held accountable.. these are crazy times we live in..
+Kevin ecape1820 Not really, building programs occurred in most nations during the same period, like the Empire State Building. Most third world nations today have thriving construction industries. It would have been more impressive if the Nazi's had raised living standards and built a stable economy not dominated by the military and the need to expand or collapse. But alas.
+Kevin ecape1820 It’s called deficit spending. The Nazis used similar policies to what FDR used in the US. Massive government expenditure, higher taxation of the rich, a multitude of government programs, and lastly, government control of the economy. The Nazis controlled everything in Germany.
+Sarah Lunafire Ohh, I hope English is your second language because not one fragment of this comment makes any sense. Post WWII german reconstruction in both East and West was facilitated thanks to massive spending by the occupation authorities, and the civil rebuilding under the Nazi's was heavily tied to the re-militarization drive which is why it focused on heavy industry and road construction. Often using slave labour.
we have no right to judge anybody for slavery, we had our own here in the USA and most of us have no problem buying cheap crap from China made by slaves in prisons,, and as my coworker tells me, he does not mind that we bomb and occupy other countries so we can get cheap oil,, Thanks for the video,, most of it was great, lots of unseen footage,, too bad that man pushes his own thoughts instead of being neutral and independent,, I hope he makes a video about current slave masters and tyrants
A very intellectually useful but slanted thesis. No dealing with the idea of restoring the Roman Empire, which is very important. Also links are made with things that are different but I find him insistent on only one way.. Still, very useful--just has got only one man's view. Preservation does not mean idolatry. Preservation of all sorts is important. How can we know if we destroy history?
No, old values are not just to be mocked. That's wrong--what is the issue is the very accurate point that in the Nazi world is that no one is allowed to have a different idea. All have to say the same thing. That's what matters. Oh and also wrong about the Nazi salute--it is of Roman origin.
There is actually no evidence that the Romans ever did that salute, it was a 19th century myth started by French neoclassical painters during the French revolution. It was from this myth, not Crowley that the salute emerged among Freikorp groups in the 20s. Although Crowley's mystical rituals often included a form of this salute and had a brief correspondence with Hitler, so it is easy to see why Meades (and Fleming from whom he is obviously pulling this mistake) drew the link.
Cringey one liners and ad hominems don’t make for a convincing criticism of anything. This guy manages to make nazism look defensible in the face of his combative rambling.
This man should never be allowed to work in TV again. All this "documentary" boils down to is a simple snarky and oppinionated rant about the Third Reich with a few facts streached beyond the boundry of tolerance with the rest being the presenter's own bias. Really when I heard my girlfriend watching this in the backgroun I though this was some upstart RUclips millenial talking about things he dosent understand, I am appauled that this has the odacity to call itself a "documentary" skip this and go play Wolfenstein, its the same thing but at least Wolfenstein dosen't take itself seriously.
Those words are spelt audacity and opinionated. I suggest you learn something about spelling and punctuation before criticising such an erudite commentary, then people just might value your opinion of it. I don't. Enough said.
@@johnevans7261you missed Opinionated stretched boundary background millennial and appalled. Sounds like He was too angry about His girlfriend watching this to even attempt to spell simple words correctly
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This is NOT a documentary, but Meades's PCness and opinionated views.
Meades is brilliant. His equally good documentaries on Joe building (Soviet architecture) and on Italian Fascist architecture, which are here on RUclips, should also be watched. They are brilliantly perceptive, hugely erudite and very very funny. He's a treasure, dare I say it.
If they're here they've missed the point
Franco Building too
Meades is a little too smart for the neo nazi sympathisers it seems reading many of the comments here.The man is a genius,
Am quite sure that he wouldn't thank me for saying it but for the past 25 years I've found Jonathan Meades to be the most provocative, funny and informed documentary maker on television. Also, the camera work is an object lesson in composition. It only saddens me that just two thousand hits have been made for this broadcast.
Fuck me, this video has gotta be the crowning example of "don't read the comments"
the sound effect when he tosses mein kampf into the recycling bin of history made me laugh out loud
Where exactly do you see an expression of a "hatred of everything German"?
I have my problems with Meades, but a Germanophobe he is most certainly not. Check out his documentary "Magnetic North".
Music from 34:00 - end please.
i greatly appreciate that throughout all of this he has an obviously open contempt for the nazis and everything they stood for. i wish that was the default position of all people tbh
Interesting analysis of Nazi Germany through its architecture. And I'm sorry, but Nazism does deserve to be ridiculed.
MountieFromHell the ridicule seems to be having the desired effect. There are a lot of exceptional individuals complaining about Meades' portrail!
my tought exactly. It's about as objective as the youtube comment section. Every fucking time he says sneaky little things "swastika = perversion of the cross"... Dude just say what it means and let me think what i want !
Since then, they faked the moon landings then knocked down their own twin towers of economic warfare followed by not only killing all life on the planet but any possibility of future life on the planet for 100,000 years or more. Fukushima is an extinction level event. Nazis never even used chemical weapons and are now nuke free. They planned for 1000 years into the future. British and their grotesque american stepchildren
simply take the money and run.
No need to say sorry.
Middle class cultured Speer perhaps the most 'devious' of all the Nazi gang.
20:20 what are those sound effects?
At one point Meades, by way of analogy, utters the phrase 'Imagine a United States of America where EVERYONE is a member of the Ku Klux Klan'... In 2021, what once was barely imaginable now takes barely any imagination at all.
Most unique doc. of the horrors of Nazi Germany that I've seen. Wish viewership were higher!
The "tragically obedient" British people. Great turn of phrase.
Just brilliance, ...well done sir.!
Intelligent. Informed. Informative. Exquisite.True.Thank you.
The Nazis did not invent Neoclassical architecture, though they did overapply in the extreme. However, one should not judge an entire style by a handful of its practitioners. The Neoclassical style is more often than not a perfect embodiment of beauty, style and function - which is why it's present in all corners of the world.
I like Meades "snarkiness", even though his opinions irritate me quite often. I think though, he is able to create thoroughly interesting, charming and thought provoking documentaries, partly despite and partly because of this . There is much to quibble over in various aspects of his analysis, not least for me, his obviously materialist view of the world, but I'm always drawn to see his films to the end. He does say somewhere near the beginning of this piece that all ideologies and religions are inherently divisive and for that I give him due credit.
He contradicts himself regularly but I have been watching his stuff since 12
"....we should never respect ideology or religious dogma". Too true.
Looking at these comments, I must add that any criticism of some of his points is not Nazism. The essence of Nazism is that there is no free exchange of ideas. No private ideas, no private person. Therefore, his essay should be discussed. as a free society does. Much of what he says, I agree with, but not all.
Music by Paul hardcastle!
Thank you for posting, and the d/l link! Much appreciated!
Only room for one people. . . .stop picking on Israel, please!
hcanuck7 JM did a prog on the Soviet side - You ought to see Joe building, also available on RUclips.
+Sarah Lunafire Except this is neither irritating nor obnoxious. JM makes the most intelligent, witty, erudite TV programmes available today. Always informative, assumes the viewer has brain cells and can use them, and is never boring. A refreshing change from reality tv, endless cookery and soap operas. Wish he'd make more programmes, but sadly commissioners aren't interested in making intelligent television anymore.
20:22 - 20:24 I see what you did there. 👀
Great documentary, thank you.
Here and there, J. Meades' Secularist prejudices manage to bleed through. His facts are compelling, but his opinions often tread the land of poetic bitterness.
Eh? If we don't judge ourselves and others for slavery then why do moral standards even exist?
Fantastic doku
"Thats enough!"
20:12 I always knew hippies were evil!
Why can we not see the inside of these buildings? Some of them are pretty cool and unique. I mean I'm sure they are in ruin, but I'd still like to see more than a momentary glance of the exterior.
Excellent.
A MUST for all students of German history.
Want to see more of Mr. Meades!!
Ok I see what you mean now. True, these are crazy times. Peace.
Is all this communal culture really any different than what goes on in Europe at the moment?
Mr. Meades seems to have a sense of contempt for the german people.
Anyone who has lived among Germans has contempt for them - and that's not even taking into account their bloody past.
Not for German people, just for the Nazis. Which is as it should be.
@@GodOfVictory501 Absolute fucking rubbish. Nazis are cunts, period. But condemn an entire nation for their crimes? Bullshit. Or are all Americans bastards because Trump was (and perhaps will be again) voted into power?
10:35
He already did watch?v=LtoAvSlWxNE
very timely finding this tuday
You really know that architecture is a question of war and peace! So what?
is it just me or does the narrator seem a tat salty over nazis?
***** that's not good history practice to reflect personal issues in the historical work.
His disdain for them has the disgust and ridicule that they deserve.
9:00 - what a burn to the alt right there.
what I am saying is that it is hypocritical,, I thought that was clear but I guess not,, and I guess that the new moral standard is as long as you dont know about the slavery then your ok and moral,, is that whay your trying to say? I think that it is outrageous what we accept today,, and it is not moral to not inform yourself about what is going on so that way you cant be held accountable.. these are crazy times we live in..
It might have been of interest to note that the first concentration camps were established by the British during the Boer War.
I think your tinfoil hat is coming loose. Better add some more glue.
fantastic
Hahahahaha!!
Love the music @21:00 :D
Just goes to prove, the 'good ole days' were anything but good. LOL
pseudo-intellectual? compared to who?
Incredible
I'd hate to cook for this guy lol
Meades is a genius and antidote to all the thicko painting by numbers cobblers foisted on the proles
Very impressive that they built most of these impressive buildings when the rest of the world was in an economic depression. Commentary boaste
+Kevin ecape1820 Not really, building programs occurred in most nations during the same period, like the Empire State Building. Most third world nations today have thriving construction industries. It would have been more impressive if the Nazi's had raised living standards and built a stable economy not dominated by the military and the need to expand or collapse. But alas.
+Kevin ecape1820 It’s called deficit spending. The Nazis used similar policies to what FDR used in the US. Massive government expenditure, higher taxation of the rich, a multitude of government programs, and lastly, government control of the economy. The Nazis controlled everything in Germany.
+Sarah Lunafire Ohh, I hope English is your second language because not one fragment of this comment makes any sense. Post WWII german reconstruction in both East and West was facilitated thanks to massive spending by the occupation authorities, and the civil rebuilding under the Nazi's was heavily tied to the re-militarization drive which is why it focused on heavy industry and road construction. Often using slave labour.
Is autocorrect to blame for your other historical errors?
Construction is less expensive when using slaves worked to death.
Lot of mistakes. I think he should have done a little more research to back up all his opinions.
Interesting and good photography but I could have done without the constant prejudicial adjectives regarding what was being presented.
another objective piece of historical analysis ...
Now he can do a programme on the NKVD / Stalinism.
hcanuck7 he did
i simply love this guy ...but he always makes me feel a bit thick (in a good way though ..i should learn more )
Needless and obnoxious opinion piece.Not much of a documentary.
BeardedCIam #truth well said
Having an opinion makes one a cunt now?
we have no right to judge anybody for slavery, we had our own here in the USA and most of us have no problem buying cheap crap from China made by slaves in prisons,, and as my coworker tells me, he does not mind that we bomb and occupy other countries so we can get cheap oil,,
Thanks for the video,, most of it was great, lots of unseen footage,, too bad that man pushes his own thoughts instead of being neutral and independent,, I hope he makes a video about current slave masters and tyrants
A very intellectually useful but slanted thesis. No dealing with the idea of restoring the Roman Empire, which is very important. Also links are made with things that are different but I find him insistent on only one way.. Still, very useful--just has got only one man's view. Preservation does not mean idolatry. Preservation of all sorts is important. How can we know if we destroy history?
No, old values are not just to be mocked. That's wrong--what is the issue is the very accurate point that in the Nazi world is that no one is allowed to have a different idea. All have to say the same thing. That's what matters. Oh and also wrong about the Nazi salute--it is of Roman origin.
There is actually no evidence that the Romans ever did that salute, it was a 19th century myth started by French neoclassical painters during the French revolution. It was from this myth, not Crowley that the salute emerged among Freikorp groups in the 20s. Although Crowley's mystical rituals often included a form of this salute and had a brief correspondence with Hitler, so it is easy to see why Meades (and Fleming from whom he is obviously pulling this mistake) drew the link.
This is the worst documentary I've ever seen.
You've led a sheltered life, haven't you?
OK thats your opinion. Heres mine. A superb piece of tv- hats off to Meads.
Cringey one liners and ad hominems don’t make for a convincing criticism of anything. This guy manages to make nazism look defensible in the face of his combative rambling.
The narrator's adolescent flourishes really detract from the subject matter, disappointing
the not-so-subtle anti german hate propaganda..
Naw, he's this rude about everything!
"Hippies in uniform" Classic Meades!
Amazing parallels with many American Democrat politicians and media moguls!
This man should never be allowed to work in TV again. All this "documentary" boils down to is a simple snarky and oppinionated rant about the Third Reich with a few facts streached beyond the boundry of tolerance with the rest being the presenter's own bias. Really when I heard my girlfriend watching this in the backgroun I though this was some upstart RUclips millenial talking about things he dosent understand, I am appauled that this has the odacity to call itself a "documentary" skip this and go play Wolfenstein, its the same thing but at least Wolfenstein dosen't take itself seriously.
Those words are spelt audacity and opinionated. I suggest you learn something about spelling and punctuation before criticising such an erudite commentary, then people just might value your opinion of it. I don't. Enough said.
@@johnevans7261you missed Opinionated stretched boundary background millennial and appalled. Sounds like He was too angry about His girlfriend watching this to even attempt to spell simple words correctly
This is NOT a documentary, but Meades's PCness and opinionated views.
Joanthan Meades is about the exact opposite of PC, I think you'll find.
@@forthrightgambitia1032 i think when he says 'PC' he means "not a nazi"
You talk of the vulgarity of gigantism meades. ..just take a look at your own foul disgusting bloated carcass