Crosshair and Mayday learn of what Cargo they were protecting - Bad Batch Season 2 Episode 12
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- After fighting the raiders the duo discover what the cargo actually was!
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Love how they turned the whole "Good soldiers follow orders" from something haunting to something tragic
It was always tragic. Now it’s just more tragic than haunting
It's like after everything I've done, I am not getting the treatment I deserve for all of my hard work and instead I'm being thrown into the trash unfairly.
Heya Pip
the day Crosshair realized good soldiers don't always follow orders, especially when those orders amount to the empire tossing the soldier like another piece trash for the local garage hauler to dispose of.
The craziest part of all this is they had been guarding this armor for a year. Long before the stormtrooper bill came to the floor in the senate. Palpatine is always 5 steps ahead.
He knew how to turn a problem to his advantage. Rampart served as the perfect scape goat while Palpatine needed to no longer hide the “secret project” which began the stormtroopers.
Once the clone wars ended, something had to come about for long term military so transition armour stored away till they had people to wear them.
That's what makes a villian scary
Exactly what I thought too
That didnt even cross my mind but yeah your right, damm sidious really was ahead by several steps at every point.
"Were good soldiers..... we followed orders and for what." As a combat vet that line hits hard.
Where did you serve?
@aqua2k210 operation enduring freedom Afghanistan 2011-2012. I served with the 1-294th Inf reg. Guam. Got out in 2019.
Even though I’m not a soldier, I can guess we understand following orders and doing what we can, especially doing what we feel is right.
i feel like halo and star wars bred a whole generation of ass kicking soldiers especially the marines.
Wanna know the saddest part about this? While we’re all anticipating a clone rebellion, we all know how it’s going to end.
Still I think it would be cool for the clones to deal some form of damage to the empire even if it will end in their death
Sidious and the Empire are truly the definition of pure evil. Andor, Rebels, and Bad Batch proves it.
At least in the end they will die for something that they choose to believe in and to fight for.
If anything I don't think the clone army should be a real life thing
Because this is way too tragic and too immoral
The wheel victims of the clone wars were not the Republic or the separatist but the clothes themselves
@@mamstarstorm Of course, in multiple comics they committed genocides, especially Darth Vader.
0:49 Mayday summed up the tragedy of the clone army
@VHTesla i saw that episode recently, Picards follow up is just as important:
"You refer to slaves."
Have you heard of the tragedy of Commander Mayday the 🅱️ased?
@@VTVIGTV its not a story the TK troopers would tell you. Its a clone legend.
Makes sense why Vader was so bad to his imperial officers, they treated the Clones terribly.
Exactly especially in ep 4 where he choke 1 of them finding their lack of faith disturbing
Vader has so little regard for life for the hatred in his heart. The imperial officers don’t help themselves.
Then again, Vader kills clones when they piss him off as well.
@@alexdeghost2729 RIP Fox
Vader only kills or ragdolls imperials when they are to arrogant to get their job right. Which is pretty much most of them. Unlike clones hes had good respectful relationships with them. Both vader and as anakin. The only exception was fox who was also arrogant under the order of palpatine
During the clones Crosshair state’s he would’ve left a reg for dead, later, he ended up saving one. At this point, Crosshair realized despite being shunned from the rest of the clones, they were still his brothers.
And how honorable he is too since mayday saved his life earlier not long after crosshair talked about dead weight.
@@carloz1536 Propably one of the regs aside from Cody and Echo he actually consider a friend. Despite Crosshair butting heads with them, they were still his brothers, he just now realized it.
I think Crosshair earned the respect of his brothers back after the Cody episode, not to mention they all had bigger fish to fry (everyone else hating them) so they probably forgave each other anyway.
And that’s what you call textbook character development
@@DemocracyManifestJr Yeah, it seems to show that Crosshair's dislike for the Regs seem to stern from resenment for being rejected by them, yet found a family with Clone Force 99. It was from there that despite their differences, Crosshair realizes even the regs are still his brothers and that his own self loathing caused him throw away all the good he got. That's propably the best deveolpment I seen in years. I hope he starts to hug his old squad emotionally and begging them to forgive him, realizing how important they are to him.
There were 7 clones in this episode, if the 5 others didn’t died they could have saved Mayday
2 died in Fight offscreen, 1 died at the Shuttle explosion and the other two had to protect the base
@@echo-rq5em no they were killed too, because only the tk troopers were there
Doubt the lieutenant would sacrifice his bodyguards
@@novaenforcer1563 he hated clones so somewhat makes sense
The TK troopers were about ready to save him before Nolan told them to get back to work.
In many ways, the treatment of the clones after the war was much like how they were treated on Umbara; seen as nothing but expendable assets and treated as such. They thought Umbara was just a bad experience, but little would they know that it was just the beginning, and Krell even foreshadowed their fate with his prophecy.
And in many ways, they were treated harsher than how Grievous treated his battle droids.
Did krell know about order 66
@@preciousotoakhia9789 no not order 66 itself but enough to know that the jedi would lose and be in his own words "torn apart from the inside"
When we first hear Mayday tell Crosshair that he didn't know what the cargo was, you knew it had to be either something horrifying or pointless. But storing the new stormtrooper equipment in a backwater outpost and ordering clones to guard it with the barest minimum of resources....That's effed up even on imperial standards.
Honestly it really isn't... it's standard Imperial dickery the more you read about their actions not only in Legends but Canon as well...
Damn imagine being clone who fight for 4 or 5 YEARS only being replace by bunch of men who literally disrespect clone at season 1
Honestly Palpy was an absolute idiot for replacing the clones.
Think of how much more effective the miltary might have been with clones.
@@jeremydale4548 It was a smart choice in utilizing the people as being part of the military as well as rooting the Empire more into people’s daily lives.
@@jeremydale4548 the clones were expensive and since jango was dead they didn't have a fresh dna sample
@@Dabazuka So you don't think they're capable of finding another legendary bounty hunter for cloning. Plus the death stars are just burning money.
@@jeremydale4548 Palpatine’s mistake was trying to phase them out as soon as possible rather than just let them serve till they die of old age
Mayday is right. The clones has sacrifice everything during the war. Losing their brothers, killing the Jedi, and after the war they were quickly get replace. They even lost their home on Kamino. To the Empire they're expendable, that's the sad fate for the clones who lost everything to the Sith.
The way I see it is that the Jedi were the only ones who ever saw the clones as true individuals and as humans. As Yoda said in episode 1 of the clone wars, "Deceive you, eyes can. In the force, very different each one of you are." This is why they often encouraged the clones to express that individuality. The clones were forced to murder the only ones who respected them as people. Then the Empire stripped them of their humanity, turning them into little more than droids and discarded them like they were nothing.
Empire just spat in their faces
@@thaneoffife6904
"We are just clones sir, we are meant to be expendable" - Sinker
"Not to me" - Plo Koon
It's not just the clones, everyone in the Empire was expendable, no matter how loyal or how many orders you follow.
Agreed. Sidious placed the inhibitor chips in the Clones for a reason and once they started to degrade, the Clones, who worked under the Jedi and learned their moral philosophies, became more independent and more antagonistic towards the Empire. Plus, the Jedi is the only reason why the Republic did not become too cruel before it transitioned into the Galactic Empire.
The death of Mayday is a turning point for Crosshair about the Empire he’s serving
What's sad is that the smugglers stole and actually wore the clone armor. They didn't want the Stormtrooper stuff
They didn't want it was because it's worthless. Smugglers want to steal stuff that has an actual use or value, not junk.
Then why were they stealing the crates?
@@Anonymous-yq6wy Probably trying to make off with whatever they could get their paws on. Might be weapons in those crates.
They likely would've been disappointed.
@@dragonfell5078 you are probably right, hell they probably figured out the clone armour was more reliable, but probably wanted to sell the stormy gear,
@@Anonymous-yq6wy Aye, any profit's better than no profit. There's gonna be a buyer for captured Imperial gear somewhere, regardless of cost. It's a big galaxy and people are desperate
What's interesting is that-that armor has been there for a year, if I heard right earlier, the armor existed during the Clone Wars. The show still takes place within a year after the Clone Wars as far as I know.
I dont think that's the case it seems to be a year after order 66
S1 takes place in the first year after 66 S2 takes place in the second year believe so I would guess the stormtrooper armor was in the design phase during the end of the clone wars
@@stephencarroll9935 I haven't found any sources saying the show has hit the year mark in universe. But it could be.
Even if it was made Post Order 66, why was it stored on that outpost? And for that long?
@@CameronKiesser doesn't mayday say he's been there for a year complaining about how the empire doesn't send them equipment if that was the republic they would
@@stephencarroll9935 Doesn't mean the loot came there at the same time as him. I saw it has HIM being there for a YEAR and the armor potentially being there before he arrived.
Man, Bad Batch is just an incredible show.
One of the rare moments where Disney gets Star Wars right
The Saddest part it is inevitable
Clones will be cast aside and there will be nothing they can do about it.
Regs will be treated like trash even more
501st, the Vader's fist will end begging for food
Commandos, best of the best will be replaced by Death Troopers
They were all doomed from the start and those who survive will envy the dead
The deserter was lucky
That's true. Even if the clone commandos like Scorch were still loyal to the Empire, they would be thrown under the bus and get replaced by death troopers(another variant of human recruits). They really want to get rid of clones, no matter if they're loyal or not.
I like the subtle touch of Mayday's com not working correctly, with the glitching and everything, before showing the shiny new helmet
This is why Vader prefers Clones and still uses the 501st as his soldiers because of their loyalty and the amount of time he spent with them, they are good soldiers that follow orders
This is what blind loyalty and respect not looks like, but what the following result can be.
The war, the others, the deaths…
All of it was, for nothing…
Yeah.....
Well they did wipe out the Jedi Order. It was for a greater cause to the Sith Grand Plan.
Just get to replaced by stormtroopers
Crosshair had to learn the hard way that the Empire didn't care about him, and I think it's this scene specifically that rammed that home for him. Ever since Order 66 was enacted, he's been telling himself he's doing the right thing. All he's done since Order 66 is follow orders, but as Mayday put it "We were good soldiers. We followed orders. And for what?"
The clones died protecting the armor of their replacements and that armor will be replaced soon. Tk armor will soon be upgraded to stormtrooper armor, meaning all those clones died for armor/gear that will only be around for a few months, maybe even weeks and won’t see that much combat/use.
I like the subtle radio glitching on Mayday's helmet just before they realize they've been protecting new gear, just to emphasize a tiny bit more how broken and old their equipment is.
I was attacked by a pitbul while at my job, when I'd recovered and gone back to work my boss was looking for excuses to fire me, it's not the same as being a vet, but the feeling of being used and thrown away like a disposable object resonates with me.
This is the Junk Armor Rex will make fun of in a couple of years
Reminds me of Vietnam veterans on the center of Long Beach California, forgotten and left behind after everything they did
1 year later it hits different after “The Return”
How is it I’m enjoying the bad batch more than the Mandolorian?
They were two boring filler episodes
@@kernowpictures2002 Are you fr rn lol.
@@kernowpictures2002 both episodes were amazing tf you on about
@@kernowpictures2002 Are we even talking about the same show?
@@kernowpictures2002 I wanna know what your smokin bro
The Clones gave everything in the war. They paid for it all with oceans of blood, sweat, and tears. They gave their lives so that countless others could live in peace.
Only to get tossed aside like garbage. Such a tragedy.
This would be like being a patient in a hospital learning to walk again, lifting weights and in those weights are the pain meds that the patient could have used
Well that's a massive fuck you to the clones if I ever saw one.
Crosshair gave one massive fuck you to Lieutenant Nolan.
Love that word choice, *"shiny".*
Takes me back to the 501st Journal.
"Good soldiers follow orders...and for what?" Now finally crosshair saw the error of his ways when the empire treat the clones like real expandable waste.
Gear? We have been risking our lives to recover equipment we could been wearing this whole time (It's not Clone Trooper gear).....Right..New toys for the shiny new military ..and we get the scraps..After all the clones have done.. all we sacrificed..Were good soldiers.We followed Orders and for What??
I feel bad for all clone troopers
The clones were the true victims they fought and for a lost war
Just to get thrown aside by the Empire that they helped build unknowingly
Yeah and they were made for a lost war and Palpatines plan for the extermination of the Jedi
For what it's worth, there were at least some politicians like Senator Chuchi who would advocate for the welfare of clone veterans. It was a fruitless endeavor as we have seen so far but at least there was proof that not everyone in the Empire was indifferent towards the soldiers who served, even if they were grown in a laboratory.
Crosshair thought he was different from the regs, which is why he thought the empire would value him. His journey was all about him learning that *everyone* is expendable in the eyes of the Empire, and that his brothers are all he has.
Can you upload the scene where crosshair tries to keep Mayday warm
If only they had a tauntaun around
this is a tragedy for crosshair and a lesson learned from the MGS series. what do you do when the people who you are loyal to don't return that loyalty? crosshair learned the hard way that the empire doesn't care how loyal he is. he's just a pawn. and pawns are sacrificed at the whims of the player.
Clones were expendable from the very beginning. They were modded by kaminoans and had super quick metabolism in order to grow up quickly and be muscular. Theoretically, clone's life is 3x faster, than a human's one. During the clone wars clones died in thousands, so no one of them had not reached a retirement age. But after the war... Soon all great clone army will be one big elderly house of ptsr veterans
It's horrible how Palpatine and the empire treat the clones.😢
Clone or not, no soldier should be treated like this.
Fought for 3 to 4 years on the frontlines and be replaced and abandoned like a used up car or bike. Unforgivable.😡
I knew family and friends who went to war in the middle east and returned home then forgot by both the government and public. All there sacrifices, all their hardships and struggles for what!?
Thank for your service. Now go home and go live a normal life after everything you experience on the battlefield. That why I hate two faced politicians.🤬 Especially those who think soldiers who risk their lives to protect our nation as expendible assets rather than people.
Like Sylvester Stallone in Rambo First Blood once said. "You can't just turn it off."
That's what being a soldier in the real world is. You are a good asset until you are not longer needed
So we will see a clone rebellion vs. the empire. Perhaps we could see vader for once this show
Mayday is one clone I wish we saw more of .
I seriously thought crosshair might shoot Mayday or something like that
[SPOILER] I am so glad Crosshair killed Nolan. I don’t think I could stand a second episode looking at that oh so very punchable face.
It was sad when Crosshair and Mayday realized that the Empire was degrading the clones the whole time, especially when they discovered that the cargo was a bunch of stormtrooper gear.
See? It was things like this that has Kal Skirata have such a low opinion of how the Clones were treated and the view he had on the Republic, the Jedi, and the Kaminoans as a whole. And MAN does THIS just prove his point like the dickens.
Would have been more haunting of it was the OT Stormtrooper Armor, some of the first batches.
Thank you for posting something immediately so it reaches people that haven’t even seen the episode
And that’s your fault for watching and commenting.
Why did you click on it if you haven't seen the episode
Maybe go watch the episode instead of going on RUclips! 😂
@@shawngiver5570not my fault i was using youtube and just so happened to see a video which basically spoilt the whole episode in the title alone without any warning
ive watched the episode now of course but its still a bit of a dick move to do this and spoil it for so many people (myself included)
Yet your still here commenting
Empire’s policy on War Mantle never really made sense to me. You got a ton of loyal veteran soldiers. Wanna trade for natural born recruits, cool. But for the love of god use the clones who’ve seen war and trained for war their entire lives to train the new guys further when they get to their units outside of basic instead of entirely discarding the clones in a week for natural born recruits who have a chain of command as new as they are. Plus using the clones in experiments and stuff to get rid of them even quicker. It’s a waste and all it does is piss off your battle hardened premade army
They need to explain that a bit more because I think there could have been some traitor Imperial clones. Like the Clone Assassin in this series still a mystery. And in Rebels an Imp Officer offers Rex a place in the Empire as an Officer or something (Not sure if he was lieing to Rex but thats what he said). Also they appear to still be using the Clone Commandos at least.
It would be cool to see Dogma addressing the phrase 0:55.
Imagine if this is how US vets were treated…. Ohh wait
I just realized Mayday echoed a similar thing Crosshair said to the rest of the bad batch, except that this is sad and a realization
The Empire treated the clones like absolute garbage. Very heartbreaking and jawdropping how it all unfolded.
It may not be that long ago but daaarn I can't believe this was 3 months already
Indeed, for their shiny new military
I haven't watched the episodes yet and I doubt the story behind Mayday's name was said
But imagine this shiny boy on Kamino getting under heavy fire during his training and going MAYDAY MAYDAY and then the rest of the squad calling him that to make fun of him
That man who survived the War used to be the shiny boy...
Every clone that survived the end of the war used to be shines, they all evolved some way or another
To look at what has happened to the clones is to look at what the cost of war really is. Not just the deaths of countless civilians, the loss of monies that might have been used to better the living conditions of many people, and the destruction or loss of cultural identity, but also the throwing away of veterans who suffered the worst hardships for what they believed in makes war the greatest disease, something for which George Washington himself had wished was eradicated.
The problem with loyalty to a cause is that the cause will always betray you 😆
I think hunters words were starting to get to him from the last ep of season 1and this lieutenant made sure of it
a fun meta component to this is that the clone wars often presented us with mystery box stuff, or with technological gimmicks that disappeared next arc. i fully expected something like this in the boxes, something that "justified" the clones not being told and that might be the episodes real threat. truth was the imperials didn't care, the clones weren't worth telling because they're just outdated equipment. and learning that is a far more satisfying revelation than whatever else could have been put in those boxes.
I know right.
Part of me was like "they must have death star parts in there" lol
But it was far more fitting.
11 months ago 😢
now we need a clone rebellion season 3 clones vs imperials clones more combat skill before storm troopers came along
A part I liked was when crosshair picked off
Those other guys when they try to jump mayday......
At least the droids have off switches but the clones will be worked to death or until they stop being useful and will be abandoned to rot away slowly
I don’t want to watch the new seasons of bad batch, not because I think they are bad, but because I think they are too painful emotionally to watch.
what’s the strategic benefit to storing gear in an inhospitable and dangerous planet and have it poorly reinforced by clones?
Removal/containment of potentially subversive military personnel i.e soldiers you can no longer trust to fulfill your governments directives.
Well the storm trooper's armor was actually worse than clone trooper's armor.
The empire really cut on expenses all because of palpatine bs political structure
Whelp, sucks when you get spoilers on the homepage.
Your own fault
No one forced you to click on the video. Thumbnail only shows a piece of armor, not really a spoiler.
this was real tragic.
The only part I don't understand is what happened to clone cold weather gear??? Like there was Phase 1 cold weather gear and of course Galactic Marine gear closer to Snowtroopers. I'm guessing the Empire also could have provided them with that gear but they just didn't do it as they see it as a waste of resources or something or they just did not do it because they didn't care. If it was the Republic they would have had the best stuff.
Mayday 😭😭😭😭
I still dont get why mayday and his men did not get winter gear from previous clone wars, did the emojre decided cut budgets and gave them rags?
The republic probably forgot about them. They were ordered to defend that outpost and just guard the gear. That was pretty much it, and they didn't really have a jedi or general to report to
@@bend7726the republic is gone at this point
How do you screen record stuff like this? Also is it possible to screen share so me and my friends could watch together
They should’ve just stolen the armor and left.
Why are new armors stored at a backwater world like this ? I doubt that they are getting build there or that this place is at a central point in the galaxy.
Because they needed a sort of 'back pocket' place to store all the equipment they built for the new army, knowing it would come into being. They couldn't just keep all of it on hand, or word would have gotten out quickly.
U said it yourself, why would the new armor be stored at a back world water? Because this place isn’t a central point in the galaxy, meaning they won’t get discovered that the empire have been wanting to get rid of clones much longer then the recruitment bill was requested.
0:48
"Good soldiers follow orders", They should only follow orders from good superiors. For the most part the Jedi were good people to follow. The republic-turned-Empire, not so much. It took Crosshair that long to realise just how the Empire really valued clones.
Isn't it said later on that stormtrooper kit is absolute crap (at least in rexes opinion) ir was the early TK prototype stuff still higher end then the later mass production model?
Shits been out for a couple of hours wtf
No really
stormtroopers>>>>
There cheaply made anyway
Afghanistan be like
What? Where the hell do you see Afghanistan in here? US Army was not guarding equipment for another force that was going to replace them in here.
SPOILERS, i’m selecting don’t recommend youtube
Why bother trying to collect the armor? It's worthless
General Xiono treats the republicans the same way Nolan treats clones
Nah, Mayday... You deserved worse. You and every clone.
troll moment