Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous Review Impressions: Is It Worth it? A Colossal CRPG Like No Other
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous Review Impressions: A Colossal Fantasy CRPG Like No Other
In this Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Review Impressions, we’re going to take a deep dive into the new isometric and fantasy CRPG, which is the sequel to Pathfinder: Kingmaker but with a different storyline altogether. The game is developed by Owlcat Games and published by META Publishing. It’s available on PC via Steam, GOG, Epic Games Store, and it’ll be released on the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One on March 1, 2022.
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Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous draws inspiration from its tabletop version of the same name that utilizes the Pathfinder 1st Edition Ruleset. It also has new mechanics such as the Mythic Path System and Crusader Army Management. How does this sequel stack up compared to Kingmaker? Is Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous worth it? We’ll answer all of these questions and more!
Timestamps
0:00 - Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous Review
0:39 - WoTR Story and Setting
2:47 - WoTR Gameplay and Combat
9:14 - WoTR Audio, Visual and Design
11:33 - WoTR Replayability and Multiplayer
12:07 - WoTR Pricepoint
12:33 - WoTR Final Thoughts
12:50 - WoTR Summary and Score
Pathfinder: WotR is an impressive feat of a game due to its rich and immersive storytelling and world-building. The gameplay and the characters continue to be interesting and engaging all throughout. You’ll see the gravity of your choices together with its consequences in the ever-shifting environments and NPCs of Worldwound.
Despite how challenging the combat is at times, figuring out how the mechanics work and applying what you’ve learned are exciting experiences altogether. Whether you’re new to D&D and the Pathfinder Series or if you want to scratch the itch of playing yet another amazing CRPG, then getting WotR would be a good choice.
Stay tuned for the upcoming Build Guides in the coming days. Be sure to check out our Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Wiki if you have questions on the game. What did you think of this review? Will you be purchasing Pathfinder: WotR on day one? What builds are you planning to come up with? Let us know in the comments section below!
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this feels like the new dragon age for this age
Would you say that you enjoyed this game more than Pillars of Eternity 2 ultimate edition or less?
Your wiki has still a lot missing pages
@@vitaminc2161 pathfinder is a HUGE game and the beta gave access to limited content. We are working on adding more but it's not instant as we have to get the content then type it all out and format it into the website.
If you have info that can help, feel free to edit by clicking "edit" on the top right of pages.
If I wasn't already subbed this would earn it! great job
I'm expecting 80 hours of playtime.
In the character creator.
No kidding, after I kinda fucked up my builds in my first game in PK, I literally spent almost an entire weekend in the character creator as well as internet guides & wikis reading about all the mechanics and classes, considering all the options and trying to understand what builds will satisfy me both performance- and roleplay-wise.
And taking into account that WotR has more than twice as many classes as PK... yeah, 80 hours it would have certainly been if that was my first game instead of PK.
Yh I hate when after 80 hours you think your character is cool and finished, but then when you start the game you go nope,lets start this over
LMAO a man after my own heart
same lmao
Atleast 80 hours per character creation times the amount of characters I foresee myself playing, which is around 5. Sounds about right.
This is exactly the kind of game I love to buy on steam and never get around to playing.
Haha, this is me as well 👍
You tottally should play it its such good fun
I still need to get around to finishing the first one...
@@A5tr0101 How does it compare to or with Divinity Original Sin 2
My 1st pathfinder game, it's awesome and confusing at 1st, just take your time with the game if you got a chance
I wish more games offered the choice to play either with real-time or turn based combat.
Especially switching between them on need
agreed, the fact that its turn based is the reason im getting it, i dont like real time :)
this
goodluck balancing for both
@@whiskizyo2067 they did it
I expect at least a 100 build videos from you on this game.
by the end of the week
I'm waiting.
Yeah, you thought he went into detail in Demon Souls...
Welcome to Pathfinder.
Lmao it’s so true
Between beating D:OS2 and waiting for BG3, I've been aching for a quality, substantial RPG experience to really sink my teeth into, and it looks like this is it. Great video as always!
Can't wait for this, why can't they just release it now instead of tomorrow
@@ysius I know, right?
@@duke0fmarlborough Pathfinder: Kingmaker was already waaaaaay better than Divinity:OS2 so I have high hopes for this one.
Same, been playing DOS2 a lot and with BG3 most likely releasing in 2022 this will be like a breath of fresh air while we wait
@@Schizm1 PF:KM was better than DOS2 in all aspects except gameplay IMO, and gameplay is a pretty huge aspect of games. DOS2 had simpler builds and more tactical fights than PF:KM, which I enjoyed more though I know a lot of people disagree. That being said PF:KM was still amazing and the last 24 hrs before WoTR are painful.
Imagine if Owlcat and Laurian Studios had a lovechild, combining the best each Dev has to offer into one of the most in depth and immersive D&D games ever made... oh the possibilities.
Pathfinder has way more memorable characters and way better characters development. I enjoyed Divinity's characters, but they were lackluster compared to Pathfinder's cast. Of course, Divinity's cast and how they interact with your main character (assuming you made your own) definitely has a different flow.
@@Vahn421 The thing is that about the gameplay in combat it's much more developped in DOS-2 . The spells, effects, interactions with the world and skill-combination.
So yeah, I would like to see a good fusion between those.
They have different strengths and weaknesses, and I appreciate that both exist are and giving us great new games in this genre.
I just got into gaming last winter and Kingmaker Pathfinder was my first CRPG. I've gone on to complete DOS2 and am well into the first Witcher Game. SO STOKED for this - Kingmaker had problems (cough, kingdom management, cough) but I loved it so much and it got me hooked on the genre. Thanks for this review!
Kingdom management was the reason I couldn’t go on, which is why I’m gonna buy this game right now lol. Loved kingmaker but kept dying bc of management
@@Serendipity_GamingXyeah uh no.
Dam just started gaming?? Well welcome my friend lol I've been a hardcore gamer since I was a kid and I hope I will be when I'm 60 70 hahahaha
I'm about 50 hours into the game. As soon as we obtain the "permanent homebase", the scope of the game gets ridiculously overwhelming. There's too much things to do and keep track of. I'm very tempted to just set the crusade thingies to automatic because that army battle mode is boring as hell.
Other than that it's been a blast! Definitely one of the best RPG I've played in recent years.
The option to be able to do that is a great thing though!
It's definitely not everyone's cup of tea. I'm assuming the devs were big fans of Heroes of Might and Magic which was very popular in the late 90's and early 2000's, because a few aspects of the combat are literally direct rip offs of how that game plays. This is a good thing if you know the genre. I've always been a huge fan so I slipped right in and found little to no issue absolutely trashing enemies without any prior understanding of the game. But that also revealed to me anyone WHO HAS NEVER PLAYED Heroes of Might and Magic back in the day is going to be at a complete loss. So it's very much a double edged sword and I'm glad they put the auto combat in.
As a Heroes of Might and Magic veteran, I can easily say Crusader mode is heavily biased toward certain cheesy strategies and once exploited, makes the entire thing way too easy. It's a shame most players engaged in crusader mode are going to either be frustrated out of their mind, or are going to know the genre well enough to exploit its flaws and wreck everything too easily.
@@Vahn421 the majority of the devs are actually the old Might and Magic team, which is why the Crusade battles are so similar to it
;) it's not for everyone
My most anticipated game this year..THANK you for the review Fextralife!
I cannot wait to completely dive and lose weeks of my life in this game with my Cavalier build.
The problem i see with pathfinder is that these games are for the tryhard gamer, divinity 2, wasteland 3 even pillars of eternity are more gamefriendly and are really fun to play while pathfinder you have to research a lot or out a lot, a lot of effort, so you dont die in normal difficulty against a weak boss
Glad to hear it doesn't have as many bugs at launch as Kingmaker had, I've played a little bit of the beta and was immediately in love with this game, can't wait until tomorrow :D
really? i had bad experience with kingmaker
@@huctor8552 That's a lot better : the 3rd beta is without problem for me
It's basically the same version so hopefully they worked all that out.
having actual testing helped a lot
@@sersmiles1635 yep
I have only recently started playing Kingmaker and I'm loving it, so by the time I'm done with it, I'm hoping Wrath of the Righteous has been released on consoles and maybe even have some DLC. I hope you guys will produce a lot of builds for this game!
Great video, I'm so hyped for tomorrow. Took off work, took off husband and father duties. I'm ready.
Same dude, bought one copy for myself and one for my wife, both of us can't wait to dive right in
on the 2nd of September, starting from 19:00 MSK / 18:00 CEST / 12 P.M. EDT / 9 A.M. PDT - Don't know where you are from, so please check the time, not that you take off from work for nothing. I will have to wait untill 18:00 CEST,
How did you manage to take time off husband and father duties? Are you holed up at a motel on the city outskirts with a gaming laptop? 🤣
But is it your body ready?
@@LauDanielS I'm calling in. Lol
@Fextralife: Can you confirm if there are difficulty based achievements like Kingmaker? Thanks in advance.
Is there a full character builder somewhere so you can figure out build before starting and messing it up?
A couple years ago, you could've shown me this type of game and i would not even spend 2 seconds paying attention to it, but after entering the Isometric RPG Realm through Larian Studios and their acclaimed Divinity 2 Original Sin game, it's like i found Nirvana and suddenly the genre unveils itself like, like Pokémon as a 6 year old kid. I'm defenitively playing this one out while waiting for Baldur's Gate 3 full release. Who knows, maybe i'll still be hooked on this one around its release date. Bravissimo video
I have played DOSII for almost 500 hours. Imo it's a masterpiece. This game has my attention for sure. Is it very similar compared to DOSII? I'm really struggling if I should buy it or not.
@@Krikns I loved dos 2 have like 500 hrs but I now strongly prefer the pathfinder games, though theyre super different. Dos games are like baby's first roleplaying game in comparison. Thats saying something considering what normally passes as an rpg
I have certainly been enjoying it, enough to buy the Pathfinder Core Rulebook. I'm still very early in the game - haven't even attacked the Gray Garrison yet - but I'm already at level 5, and at this point, I'm pretty much hooked. Seeing Owlcat continue to support the game with more patches and DLC is just great, and my only regret is not playing it sooner.
Great review!
I was on the fence, and likely would have passed trying this. This was a game I wanted to like, but figured the combat systems would be too light and the dialogue too laborious for me to get into.
I usually love dungeon crawlers and many RPG archetypes; but I don't usually enjoy heavily story-driven games that revolve around dialogue to this extent.
However, your highlights into character customization and progression; deep companion progression; and broad elements like combat, the game world, and side content really did change my mind. I will be trying this.
Reviews don't often change my initial reaction when I see a new game. But in this case, your fair and thorough review really did change my mind. Thank you.
How does Kingmaker play on the ps4 now? I'd like to play the first one before this one. Have they patched out all the bugs yet? Is it at least tolerable? Any instances of game breaking bugs they have yet to patch out?
Can't wait for this. Going into my short week at work and will have 4 days in a row with this beast. Thinking Slayer for first class. Not sure on Mythic Path yet.
I lost my job. I start my new job on the 27th of September. So...score!
@@CrankyOldDave Sorry you lost your job. Congrats on the new one.
You can change the mythic path. Some paths will only be available later down the line
I was hugely impressed with King maker (played it after patches) so im super ready for this!
Hello guys! I have a question.. how to export the fonts used in the game from the game assets? And import the modified ones. I'll add that it's about replacing some characters with others. (.tex/.dds font files). Who can help?
Another great video, and I am very glad that you shared it.And I can’t wait to get my hands on it,even though I have to wait until Merch.And do you know if they will be having any special additions for Xbox one players?
This year is a beautiful year for top-down RPG.
What other top down RPGs did you like this year?
@@Robd515 Wasteland 3, Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access lol.
@@Robd515 Encased aswell and Solasta
This is by far the best review of this game I've seen.
I've begun to really appreciate your guides and content Fextralife, hat's off to you =)
Any tips or guide to that STR-based sword saint dhampir build?
EH is your Barbarian Guide for Amiri still viable in new game? I pretty much copied it for my character and it was a blast!
I think it is as Amiri was a base barbarian. But you will find different magic items
Thanks so much for the review! It looks pretty great!
Hurry up with your character class guides will ya? I need to know how to build an enhancement shaman from WoW and you always have the best guides for theme characters.
Working on it! Cavalier is live on fextralife.com already
Great video. I'm nearing the end of DOS2 and was looking for another game to play...this might be it.
I have yet to play Kingmaker. Do you recommend it?
Man, I still have PTSD from the console version of King's Maker. That game was buggy as hell, and I had to restart about 3-4 times before I gave up on it. That said when it did work I thought it was one of the best CRPGs I've played in years. Not sure when I'll try to give WotR a try, but it's good to know that the game doesn't seem as buggy (so far).
I’ve had a LOT of issues with mounted combat and some weird shenanigans with charge and movement in general in turn based mode but other than that there hasn’t been anything too crazy
You know CRPG stands for Computer RPG? No wonder it runs bad on consoles lol
You coverage of this game has been excellent. I know plenty about it to make an informed decision. Thank You!
Fex I swear buddy. Whenever I come to RUclips to look for reviews or recommendations for a game I’m interested in you are there my friend. Thank you.
Very happy we share interests!
does this game have controller support now or will that be later?
Excellent review. Excited to try this someday when I actually finish Kingmaker.
They need build planner really bad. I know this games' main audience is people familiar with Pathfinder, but I really wish they made it more accessible. Doesn't matter if they dump everything in game, it's still hard to learn and understand the long term implication of builds. It really daunting for someone new to the system when there's a bunch of classes, then a bunch of class specializations, then a bunch of mutually/semi exclusive decision ever few levels that can dramatically impact how to play your character.
does the frame rate still drop when you visit the town square?
Is that 13 general companions? Or counting the lich specific one?
I'm so proud to have supported this game on Kickstarter. The last time I bought into a Kickstarter, it was probably Star Citizen in 2012.
Yeesh...
Ouch
@@chillhour6155 It’s not too bad. Every time I check in on Star Citizen’s progress, it keeps getting better and better. And their revenue doesn’t seem to be hurting either. I don’t care how long it takes them to finish, but I also don’t want to play it until it’s finished.
A wizard is never late, he buys exactly at the right time when he needs to! Nice Review.
The color palette in the Abyss is incredible. So vibrant and beautiful.
Great review! Game in my shopping cart for long weekend.
So basically everything is improved from Kingmaker and that was already a great game. I am unbelievably excited for this
Unpolished and priced as if it's a triple A game. Doesn't include all of it's content immediately. You have two DLCs that are not a part of the initial release and have their own separate cost.
Buy for the price of one cake half a cake.
And the settings menu is only 80% functional at best.
@@hoggsythehoarder9701 You people will complain about literally EVERYTHING. Game is fuckin gr8.
@@hoggsythehoarder9701 ROFL it's 100+ hours at least and you're complaining about value for money? That's rich.
@@WhatDuhDogDoin Yet, I never claimed that the game is bad. Got ya.
Anyhow, when hovering over teammate portraits, there's no name... at the least.
When RMB clicking on the portraits, nothing. No menu anymore.
When hovering over anything that holds loot, it is labeled as "loot".
Pretty damn lazy. Things should be labeled what they are, like:
Corpse, crate, pot, remains, bookcase, shelf, etc...
Also, on almost every goddamn item there is text about how this item might be of interest to a merchant.
Money icon doesn't look like money, but it looks like literal "bullseye".
And all the items have their cost shown without an option to switch it off.
The game throws tutorials at me occasionally even though I disabled the whole options list for various tutorials. All of them.
In character creation, even though I've selected a male character... in some class descriptions, there is put "she" instead of "he".
There is only one dwarven voice.
There's literally just 1 voice for each race at best... if non at all for some.
Pathetic. Nwn 20 years ago had more of those.
Handful of portraits for each race and they're all mashed together with other gender portraits.
20 year old games had more, way more.
Non working keybinds, some keys cannot be rebound even though they're removed from everywhere, like "space". When rebinding keys, the game doesn't let you do that if a key is already bound to some action.
No, you have to unbind a desired key first and then you can use it somewhere else.
Same thing for space didnt work.
Unbound it from every action it was bound to and it still says that the key is bound to some invisible action.
Also when having dialogs, it's not a choice, it's a literal list of dialog options you can go through for some game completionist purposes.
When you do have a choice between bad and good decision, you have just those... two options and nothing in between when determeing some outcome. It's like i'm dumb n able to think only black and white, good or bad.
Team mates decide sht on their own, doesn't matter if it's you or anyone else making the decision.
Often times when you decide on something, be it good or bad, while having team mates in your party visually close to you, hearing your conversation.... they don't react and pretty often too.
The paladin class I'm playing is lawful good, but the conversations have only two options... either lawful or something bad. My character has no chance in being reasonable. There are no options for that.
All of this is said only playing for literally couple of hours.
All of this is said minding the fact that this game is smaller in size than kingmaker and is way more costly. 50 euro instead of 20.... and a part of the content that should've been released is cut out and sold as dlc on day 1 at launch.
Getting for the price of one whole cake, only a part of one cake.
P.s. The dragon dying in the beginning was lame and heavily stupid as it can possibly be. Might've just fallen on her knees before me, I would've decapitated her on the spot myself if she so desires.
Imagine being able to behead a dragon in the first few minutes of the game. I would love to kill a dumbass dragon such as this one, that seems suicidal.
Also... imagine not avoiding a strike... imagine transforming right infront of the enemy and immediately falling under his strike.
Crazy, right?
Yeah, lol, the game is great... if you have no standards. Which can be said about any game then.
im so happy for the owlcat team cant wait to play this tomo
Turn based is in Kingmakers for over a year now both on GOG and Steam versions (dunno about others but I suppose also)
A Doubt i have, is this game viable to a solo run ?
Already preordered and preloaded.
First this game, later Baldur's gate 3.
It's good to see RPG genre rise again.
You should also try the poe deadfire (seriously underrated) and off course wasteland 3.
Anf yes great to see That niche rise again ^^
@@geoffroythiebaut884 Finished PoE 1 & 2 a year ago. It was a great exprience.
@@stargazer8183 agree ^^
@@geoffroythiebaut884 2 is very meh imo, combat is fun. but the main story is stinky
Wow, sounds amazing! I really liked Kingmaker so I hope I will enjoy this one also.
We are truly blessed not since the late 90s have
I seen such a golden age of crpgs. I am glad the genre made a comeback.
Good review, although I've watched 3 reviews so far and each one report's 3 different mythic paths. I've heard 6,9, and 13 paths, so I'm a little confused.
One of the most important points, especially with the predecessor, is the technical condition. How many bugs are there? In other tests, there is talk of gamebracking bugs.
He literally spoke about this in the video..he said he was surprised how smooth it was and didn't see any game breaking bugs.
@@KingTommo020 Then he was probably more lucky than most of the other testers
Damn, I come from work, launch YT and I see 5 different videos about "is it worth to play Pathfinder" :D
If i want to start from the first games, does this games including the first one?
I love this game so much! I'm still in Kenabres right now. So far I've tried Wizard, Magus, Monk, and Paladin. Every class has compelling skills and interesting mechanics which is making it ever so hard to decide who will advance the story first...
ive also made like 4 charcters and havent finished Kenabres yet lol
I love this game , I care about the characters I love the story and it takes me back to the days when I played dragon age origins as a kid , its a solid 10 for me , you gonna want to replay in case you miss something
Supergame! 🤩 So hyped for tomorrow!
Great review, Keep the good work up! 🤗
will a PC that ran Kingmaker well be able to run WOR well also?
is this game locked 60 fps and dont support 144mhz? i was getting fps drops in pathfinder kingmaker on my high end pc due to this reason
I don’t think it’s FPS locked I was getting abt 80 on 1080p
8.5/10 for price point with this amount of content, though? When DOS2 got a 10/10 for only $5.00 less?
Damn, you callin him out 🤔
@@nviwraith5271 Am I wrong, though? It's not adding up.....
Divinity: Original Sin 2 could have been a $90 game, still been a 10 out of 10. That game is massive, superbly designed, and the replayability of it is through the absolute roof.
@@williameldridge9382 Okay....and this game is, as well. WotR's class system alone is absurdly robust. Add in the massive story, locations, and Mythic Paths, and this game is at least as replayable.
@@DJ-yo9oi The bugs completley destroy the chances of this game getting a 10/10. Because of Owlcats budget as well as the scope of the game it's almost impossible to make everything smooth. DOS2 is simply more polished then Wotr. Also there's too many tedious things in this game that waste time, mainly the Map. I give the game a 9/10. The game is defninitly not a 7(average) but it's to buggy to give it a 10.
I don't buy games until i've checked out your review!! You've never done me wrong yet !!! ❤
Awesome video. I am new to this type of game style and found your thoughts on it extremely helpful. Cheers!
Played the game through multiple times since release. It still surprises me just how different each run feels, because the mythic paths genuinely feel completely different.
That said, to claim this game did not suffer from game breaking bugs is outrageous. Hopefully it's all fixed now, after a year, but on release? This game was literally bugged to all hell. I encountered countless game breaking bugs, one of which quite literally set me back 60 hours of progress, which only didn't result in a total restart because I had kept a save from before the trigger for the bug. Which turned out to be using the respec option before you gained your mythic path choice at M3.
Aside from that, I had multiple bugs where essential campaign map battles either wouldn't load, or recruits stopped appearing entirely, meaning they were impossible to beat. Other bugs included immortal enemies in the main game and on a couple of other instances, major NPC's required for 'main' quest missions failing to spawn.
So no, this game was far from without bugs, it was one of the worst games I'd played that year for bugs. And it wasn't just me, it happened to every friend I know who played it as well, all with a completely different array of bugs.
That said, the game itself and the story was so good that I persevered through that (all those bugs were on a single play through...), even after losing 60 hours of play time and wound up completing 3 play throughs back to back... So highly bugged, but still highly recommended.
As a 3rd party publisher offering powerful tools for Pathfinder RPG players, I am happy to see that the 1st edition is still going strong...!! Well done Owlcat Games! As a side note, it would be possible to mirror your Wrath of the Righteous character onto the powerful TOS+ tool for continued play at the gaming table :)
This game is looking fantastic a real crpg with a heroes of might and magic 3 mini game inside, cant wait ..... And thank god no multiplayer , single player crpgs are the best game experience, you do everything in your own time , you can explore and learn the lore , perfection !!!
dunno, i loved the multiplayer in Divinity Original Sin 2, it's a way to play with different choices than you'd usually make, seeing parts of the game in different ways. I played through the game twice on my own and 4 times multiplayer with a couple different people. It does add a lot of change which is really fun, to me atleast.
is it close enough to the core rulebook to be able to use that as a manual (particularly when it comes to planning out a character)? I really miss physical manuals, especially for deep, complex RPGs like this
Kingmaker was as close to the TTRPG as possible, so yes
I'm glad I got kingmaker earlier in August because the learning curve of the mechanics and feats are ambiguous not simple like a final fantasy. But very enjoyable now and already got 70 dollar version to support the company as I already got 200hrs in the other one.
I cant wait to play this.
I would. It's a hot buggy mess like the first one was on release.
Looks like they learned a lot from the first game which was let down by bad balancing and too many bugs. But it had potential. Now that they've learned, I think it might become a really great game!
Playing through Kingmaker now, I haven't encountered any bugs that affect gameplay or questlines. The worst thing that happens is occasionally a turn in combat will hang when there are too many summons, but it's fixed immediately by toggling turns off and back on again. I feel like they must have learned a lot.
Played Divinity OS 2 and now wondering if there's any other like these released and upcoming???
Pls give your best lists.
How does this compare to Solasta? (i'd ask about BG3 but it ain't finished)
Great review, thank you!
I absolutely loved Kingmaker as a CRPG, and hearing your review sounds like WotR will be everything I wanted Kingmaker to be minus the parts I didnt like minus major bugs plus a huge QoL update overall!
I love the HoMM combat addition and I just cannot wait to dive into the game tomorrow!
I stopped playing the first one because I hated the combat system. I will definitely play this with the turn based option.
@@Silverwolf0080 They added turn-based mode to the first one and you can freely switch.
D:OS2 is still my king of this genre. I played it so much i did entire run on Honour mode.The story, companion story and that last fight with Lucian, just...dear god still hits me that ambient and music!
I suppprted the Kickstarter at stand tier to get kingmaker only just started playing and it's so fun can't wait to finish up my campaign and get started on this one. They did a great job
How is the turn-based? Also how much (roughly) is voice acted? Always wanted to get into PF TTRPG but never could, this game looks interesting though!
Often times only first dialogues of main npcs/companions in main events have a VO. It also generally happens less often the more you play and delve into sidequests. You will have to read a lot of text in this game if you want to discover all the dialogue branches.
Kingmaker was such a massive surprise for me - in a good way - and this looks even better.
Too bad these games don't have multiplayer modes. Would've liked to create the party with friends, each controlling one character, like in Neverwinter Nights 1.
Keep multiplayer out of my singleplayer rpg.
Thanks.
@@samithonjames370 you must be new.. from this age where multiplayer means loot games and games as service. Try Baldur's Gate or Neverwinter Nights.. great singleplayer games with multiplayer/coop options.
keep the good work up mate. gonna purchase it if I find time for it...muuuuch time :D
Played the first game twice cause i missed the true ending the first time. I was surprised there was 3 or 4 hours worth of gameplay after the first ending i got but i pretty much enjoyed both of them . Had a ton of fun with kingmaker and can't wait to try this one
What does one have to do to get replayability of 10 with you guys?
Personally I don't care about scores but I'm genuinely wondering what it takes if a pathfinder game with mythic paths and everything can't hit it.
I do get what you mean and I actually agree with you, this game should totally be a 10 in both this score and maybe others. To play devil’s advocate though, maybe they are thinking of arpg levels of replay-ability like Diablo and Path of Exile as examples of a 10.
@@DaCheat100 Demon Souls you could play a bunch of times as well.
@@kylerobinson6102 wotr is more replayable than demon souls imo. The combat is what keeps people playing demon souls, but the story is the same everytime. You get multiple different questlines and companions if you replay wotr, so to me it's one of the most replayable games ive ever seen outside of competitive ones like LoL or whatnot.
@@DaCheat100 I think replayability is subjective. For example, I enjoy Diablo, but I never spend much time on the post-game loot grind. People say that Sekiro is not replayable, yet I am half-way through my third playthrough.
Multiplayer for one. What's the fun if I can't play this together with my friends?
Here we go again spending 24 hours, on just character creation and experimenting with possible builds, takes me back to my BG1&2 days. These games are the bane of min/maxers, it is possible to days or even weeks before you are satisfied with your your own characrer build a d actually play the damn game.
yeah, and then you watch some youtube build video and go like "daamn, that looks great, why didnt I think of that... reroll!"
If it anything like the tabletop version all you have to do is make a max Charisma Paladin and go on demon genocide (aside from the friendly demons). And a Wizard for transport. The story actively encourages silly superhero min-maxing so don't worry. Be a paladin or a 9th level caster, start with a 20 in the best stat, go berzerk.
Great review, as usual! Thanks, Fextra
I have been waiting for release ever since I backed Wrath of the Righteous on Kickstarter. I had no regrets after backing Kingmaker and really glad that their 2nd game isn't going to disappoint either.
Feels like I need a PhD in order to enjoy this game lmao. I wish I had the experience with these kinda games, always seem so daunting to pick up, but hate to miss out on the depth.
Yeah, like games like Diablo with less loot drops. Always remember Champion of Narroth
This game is actually pretty good about teaching the mechanics though yeah, my first playthrough was 160hrs and I still was doing shit wrong by the end.
The channel crpgbro has great tutorials on a lot of the mechanics that helped me a ton, and just knowing pnp systems is good even if you never touch this game since alot carries over to other crpgs
I played the beta. It's an absolutely AWESOME game! So many good things happening - combat, choices, characters, replayability! I can't wait for the full version. ♥♥♥
Girls don't like games like this, sorry.
@@TheBigEmstos Shes related to JC from deus ex ergo not human
Great review thank you. Preordered!
Game is great. Being able to swap between turn based and active combat makes some trash fights less painful.
Some of the early fights are quite unforgiving, but once you get your feet under you, it’s a real blast. Not a huge fan of the army battles though once you get on the main map. Wish I could just ignore all that. My only gripe.
I would recommand playing using a pre build character during act 1.
I always use act1 for crpg as a test bench for character creation. In DOS2 i literally spent weeks playing act 1 over and over again haha to prefect my character creation that suite my play style
in DOS2 1st act is the only really good act. The rest of them are boring and feel like a grind.
@@Valentyn90A Act 1 is the best act for sure, but the rest of the game is as good. The game does start to drag on around halfway through the story, but it's still the best rpg I've ever played.
Pretty sure everyone did that haha.
Please don't compare this game to Divinity original sin. that's not even a D&D game and nothing compared to this massive colossal of RPG goodness!!! pre build character are there for newbies who are foolish enough to dare to play this game. veterans always create their characters from scratch to suit their playstyle. Making mistakes is this game is just normal as it is in real life.
I'm just scared that they put timers again, gonna wait before buying
most timers are gone, the few that remain are made very clear to the player. So no hidden timers that result in game over.
This is part of what I didn't enjoy in Kingmaker! That and the kingdom management honestly wasn't for me. I've enjoyed WATCHING others play it but I never will. I hear that this one is much better with that kind of stuff though so I'm going to give this a chance
Thanks for the very well done review. Now I'm going to buy it!
None of the reviews brings this up so I have to ask - is the end game as brutally messed up as it was in Kingmaker?
Another banger review Dan.
I LOLED.
I hope the console versions are well optimised. Consoles get a raw deal with most CRPG ports
@TheIneptDrifter so true. I picked it up on Xbox. And I loved the game but despite hearing the pc version had been fixed the console port was awful. Terrible file corruption issues, poor frame rate, and awful load times. If owl cat has another company handle the port again then it will likely be bad again
@@ttuarmyjag84 I’m on base PS4 and while I loved the game the technical issues and terrible frame rate was difficult to ignore! I did not get crashes but I only played a few hours so it would probably get worse. Pillars of eternity 2 is just as bad on PS4 too with so many bugs and glitches and the pause button on that hardly works! Console ports need to be taken more seriously.
@@VapourforBlood yeah I feel ya on pillars of eternity 2. I loved the first game. Played second game on gamepass. Gave up 1/2 through when save files got corrupted. Sooo many bugs. Really frustrating that crpg ports suck. That being said, my Xbox port of divinity 2 was excellent.
@@ttuarmyjag84 I beat Divinity 2 on PS4 too and it was a pretty damn polished experience. So it gives me hope for baldurs gate 3 and Larian are setting standards on that front! Beamdogs ports are spotty at best. The baldurs gate enhanced ports pretty good but neverwinter nights was a mess and planescape has bugs still not fixed. It’s maddening. It’s times like this I wish I owned a good PC.
@@ttuarmyjag84 yeah I avoided trying to pick up Poe2 on the console, the first Poe had load times so bad that it killed my interest in playing. like every new scene took about a minute to load up and you're constantly going to new scenes. I figured I'll try to play that game on the next gen to see if the load time improves drastically enough or not. I didn't even bother with Poe2, I figured it would be the same.
Is the game still impossible to play on Unfair difficulty? Looks great overall
Does it have controller support?
I tried playing Kingmaker when it came out but I just couldn't get into it and refunded it. but I might actually pick this up eventually.
I stopped playing the first one because I hated the combat system. I will definitely play this with the turn based option.
@@whitefox25 I had no Idea, guess I need to finish the first one now then.
@@Silverwolf0080 Yeah It just had a couple things that I couldn't get into, the combat being one of them for sure. And I feel like I didn't have the patience at THAT time for it. Not saying the game was horrible and I hated it, Just at that time It wasn't gelling with me. But this one looks really good actually.
So far I agree with almost everything other than the voice acting. IMO some companions are completely grating to listen to. It's a combination of unnatural dialogue and possibly the casting of certain NPC's, making some dialogue sections absolutely cringe worthy. I'm only 20hr's in so I'm hoping as a whole they end up good but so far I'm getting beamdog NPC flashbacks
It's written in russian and then translated more or less verbatim, as I understand it.
Ihope it has less drains by the second from enemies like in Kingmaker, and i liked the part were yuoesaid that now it desribe the details about the mechanics better than before.
Is there still time limits like in kingmaker?
almost none and the couple exceptions are clearly labeled as such.