The two measures starting at 1:38 are so peaceful. It's like finding a pristine pool of water hidden away in the mountains in the middle of an arduous climb. The accented Fs in the coda (3:22) are the most genius part of the piece to me.
The best thing about this is that the three notes ring out with this same meaning both in English and in Russian... In Russian they stress the three syllables of the Russian word for ‘why’... почему... (po-che-mu). This only serves to confirm how Scriabin’s genius transcends languages and cultures...
I love how Horowitz plays this, best performance of this, the way he brings out the inner melodies. Scriabin passed Chopin very quickly and very few works sound like Chopin. Scriabin sounds like Scriabin very early on.This is one of his most melancholy pieces. I really love it.
I have played this piece most of my life, the hardest thing to get the inner voices balanced just right. Horowitz is such a master of this, I really try to imitate him but it is so difficult. I really think playing softly with balance is so much harder than fast and loud. So many pianists fast and loud never really make it, it is the ones with soul and communication that make it. And i agree, the first 3 notes, just amazing. This piece already surpassed Chopin in many ways.
That E-Flat Major chord at 0:27 is breathtakingly gorgeous. One of the most beautiful transitions from B-Flat Minor I've heard. G-Flat Major -> B-Flat Minor -> E-Flat Major -> Back to G-Flat Major👌
@@pyb.5672 It's not a bad piece! I'm typically not the biggest fan of the Baroque period, but 2:50-3:20 in the Ensemble Continuum Wien version is beautiful. I'm more into Romantic/20th Century. Baroque does have some hidden gems that I enjoy though.
Sorry, only eleven years late XD. It's not so drastic, the piece is written in B bemol minor, so when he briefly modulates to a far away tonality suddenly all those bemols needed make no sense and instead he uses the closer consonant tonality, that's Mi major way easier to write and read, sounds the same. That's very commonly done throughout all classical music literature.
I couldn't agree more. I feel like he takes all those sweeping/touching emotions from Chopin and amps them up, especially in his late works of hysteric emotions. I think during his lifetime, he was known as Russia's Chopin.
This is awesome, i'm studying piano and from the next summer I want to present some Scriabin's pieces, and this particullary is my favorite, is difficult but Scriabin always represents a challange.
Finished the op2 n1 and currently im learning op8 n12. I cant wait to start n11 after finishing n12 4 months later, finished one page of n12 and kinda dropped it 😢 finished n11 like a month ago tho. Currently learning a 4 part bach fugue (n16 or 15 or 14 i cant remember but its in g minor)
During this time the use of key signatures was waining. More and more composer went back to modal methods and key or pitch centers. The Impressionist movement is all about hinting at things or giving 'impressions' of keys. Thus you get what seem like rapid modulations for small segments of time. Also, going from Db to E is a very foreign modulation, and as a results constitutes 'drastic' (Db = 5b and E = 4#).
I'm not sure that I can agree that this is deeper or more emotional than chopin. This reminds me of Fred's Mazurkas. Although his Mazurkas aren't among his more famous works it is where Chopin explored harmonies and emotional expression more so than anywhere else in his music (IMO).
I think because its late romantic, pedal markings were not really notated, it was assumed to be somewhat improvisational of when to pedal. I would try pedalling where the bass changes (5th 8th note in first measure) and that should make it more clear.
Well, I know that the techicnal difficult in this piece isn't big, but the challenge in the Scriabin's partitures is how to perfom theme, I've studied piano by less of 1 year, so yo maybe understand me (I'm playing Clementi's and Bach's pieces)
They say his early works were reminscent of chopin, and influenced by him. You can hear that here, its very different from the style he adopted in composing later on. Still, if I heard this I would not call it chopin, its an interesting mix between chopinism, and russian sounding melodies.
@fallenangel3652 Actually I hear a lot of Chopin influence in a lot of Scriabin's works (mostly his early works though), but hey imitation is the best form of flattery.
True, Schumann longed to be his pupil and practiced his F sharp minor sonata. Liszt couldn't pay for the lesson fees, he ended up learning with Czerny instead, who taught him for free. Mendelssohn had the privilege of getting lessons from this great master. In some ways, his genius even rivalled that of the great Beethoven.
well for once youtube is bringing the crazy straight to us even when i try to listen to some nice piano. theres a special hell for people like you: the army
This doesn't sound like Horowitz at all, it has none of his traits, none of his delicacy and subtle taste. Instead, pointless stops and rubatos. Not that it's a bad rendition, just not very Horowitz-ian in style.
I dont think that Rachmaninoff said he was better than him but I do recall reading that Rachmaninoff said that Horowitz plays his works better than he does. I could be wrong.
I agree. The challenge in this piece is to make sure that all of the voices are heard in each layer at the appropriate time. Horowitz was an expert at really making the voice "sing" with the right kind of sadness or desperation a piece like this commands.
This is quite a nice piece, very much chopin esque, but nice nonetheless. But I think the late Scriabin is where he shines, the black mass is my favorite etude from him
No, i am a guitarist, but i do take some piano lessons at school. I've been playing for 2 years soon. I'm working on Fuga Y Misterio for 2 pianos at the time. Pretty cool piece.
Mike (the bonehead) Wallace: Maestro, are you nervous before you go out on stage? Horowitz: No, I'm not nervous, because when I go out on that stage I know I am KInGkh".
je suis apprendre francais :) si vous pouvier me dire ce que "lien" est, je pourrais vous aider, je ne parle bien en francais et il faut que je pratique lol
This piece is actually not all that difficult. I learned it a couple years ago. A couple of uncommon harmonies here and there, but otherwise, it sits pretty easily under the fingers.
This one is truly heart wrenching. I have shed a few tears listening to this.
The two measures starting at 1:38 are so peaceful. It's like finding a pristine pool of water hidden away in the mountains in the middle of an arduous climb. The accented Fs in the coda (3:22) are the most genius part of the piece to me.
Learning this for a contest coming up, it's made playing the piano for me really enjoyable now
The first 3 notes. Can play such a big effect on the heart. It pierces right through, a question "WHY, WHY WHY?"
You probabky won't read this but I just teared up after reading your comment, it's so accurate
So accurate. And the answer comes at 0:26
The best thing about this is that the three notes ring out with this same meaning both in English and in Russian... In Russian they stress the three syllables of the Russian word for ‘why’... почему... (po-che-mu).
This only serves to confirm how Scriabin’s genius transcends languages and cultures...
OMG I love scriabin I never knew about him till I found this work here. Ty for posting it. Cause I think I got another composer I really like.
o hai der 13 year old me
@@bubbaXzone oh wow, 14 years
so what do you think of Scriabin now? :D
@@alexanderbayramov2626 lol hes hard as shit to play! But i love the inner voices
There is something dark and mysterious about this music.
I love how Horowitz plays this, best performance of this, the way he brings out the inner melodies. Scriabin passed Chopin very quickly and very few works sound like Chopin. Scriabin sounds like Scriabin very early on.This is one of his most melancholy pieces. I really love it.
Give matthieu idmtal's recording a listen
I have played this piece most of my life, the hardest thing to get the inner voices balanced just right. Horowitz is such a master of this, I really try to imitate him but it is so difficult. I really think playing softly with balance is so much harder than fast and loud. So many pianists fast and loud never really make it, it is the ones with soul and communication that make it. And i agree, the first 3 notes, just amazing. This piece already surpassed Chopin in many ways.
That E-Flat Major chord at 0:27 is breathtakingly gorgeous. One of the most beautiful transitions from B-Flat Minor I've heard.
G-Flat Major -> B-Flat Minor -> E-Flat Major -> Back to G-Flat Major👌
I think you would love Vivaldi - Credo Rv 591 - Et Incarnatus Est
@@pyb.5672 It's not a bad piece! I'm typically not the biggest fan of the Baroque period, but 2:50-3:20 in the Ensemble Continuum Wien version is beautiful.
I'm more into Romantic/20th Century. Baroque does have some hidden gems that I enjoy though.
Truly remarkable performance.
It was curious at 1:30 that there was a drastic key signature change for only 2 measures.
Sorry, only eleven years late XD. It's not so drastic, the piece is written in B bemol minor, so when he briefly modulates to a far away tonality suddenly all those bemols needed make no sense and instead he uses the closer consonant tonality, that's Mi major way easier to write and read, sounds the same. That's very commonly done throughout all classical music literature.
There is no better Skriabin-player than Horowitz is !
Greetings ,
Jan.
03:06 - absolutely heartbreaking
Thank you it is so beautiful!
It's like an extension or development of his first c-sharp minor etude.
Absolutely! Almost like a more melancholy gaze at the C#m through the prism of time.
1:06 is so sublime, forshadowing SCRIABIN's future style of languid ecstasy
and i thought scriabin Op.8 No. 11 was the one that made Horowitz cry.
I couldn't agree more. I feel like he takes all those sweeping/touching emotions from Chopin and amps them up, especially in his late works of hysteric emotions. I think during his lifetime, he was known as Russia's Chopin.
It is so beautiful indeed !!
Jan
This is awesome, i'm studying piano and from the next summer I want to present some Scriabin's pieces, and this particullary is my favorite, is difficult but Scriabin always represents a challange.
The lyricism in a lot of his early works sorta gives a Chopin feel, but if you've ever played his works for piano, it is nothing like playing Chopin!
The music reveals itself differently
Best of the best....
Beautiful!
The master in his prime. I am now speaking both of the composer and the performer.
Lovely! Horowitz makes the music breathe...a ravishing performance
perfection.
Finished the op2 n1 and currently im learning op8 n12. I cant wait to start n11 after finishing n12
4 months later, finished one page of n12 and kinda dropped it 😢 finished n11 like a month ago tho. Currently learning a 4 part bach fugue (n16 or 15 or 14 i cant remember but its in g minor)
Amazing!
During this time the use of key signatures was waining. More and more composer went back to modal methods and key or pitch centers. The Impressionist movement is all about hinting at things or giving 'impressions' of keys. Thus you get what seem like rapid modulations for small segments of time. Also, going from Db to E is a very foreign modulation, and as a results constitutes 'drastic' (Db = 5b and E = 4#).
@bubbaXzone I am so happy that you have found Scriabin. You posted that comment about two years ago, have you listened to much of his other works ?
聲部推移的微妙，
弦律間巧妙的對話，
此演奏乃大師之作!!
@fallenangel3652
I can also hear the Russian sound, which amounts to an amazing combination...
@lukebaker1001
Indeed. The early music of Scriabin assaults you whereas Chopin draws you in peacefully.
I'm not sure that I can agree that this is deeper or more emotional than chopin. This reminds me of Fred's Mazurkas. Although his Mazurkas aren't among his more famous works it is where Chopin explored harmonies and emotional expression more so than anywhere else in his music (IMO).
That's probably the recording from 1953. I've been trying in vain searching for that one on the internet.
great stuff
Indeed! Horowitz did a great job, as usual. Very dynamic and touching.
Are you a pianist? :)
Bella musica
You're welcome ;) However this piece is terrifying to play o.O
I listened to the Fuga and yeah pretty cool =)
I think because its late romantic, pedal markings were not really notated, it was assumed to be somewhat improvisational of when to pedal. I would try pedalling where the bass changes (5th 8th note in first measure) and that should make it more clear.
how do they create such beautiful melodies?
ok thx alot
Well, I know that the techicnal difficult in this piece isn't big, but the challenge in the Scriabin's partitures is how to perfom theme, I've studied piano by less of 1 year, so yo maybe understand me (I'm playing Clementi's and Bach's pieces)
Where can I find sheets on this one? Other than those in the video. A little to blurry for my eyes...
Reminds me of Chopin's Etude Op.25 No.7 (#c minor)
This etude was written in 1894, Scriabin was only 22.
Search for "Scriabin etude op.8 n.12" take Wiki' article, see 'External links' and click on "Etudes op.8"
@NOSEhow2LIV Do you know of any recordings of Scriabin's Romance for voice ?
I don't know. Scriabin did an amazing job of his songs too. There are several piano rolls of him. You should give them a look.
They say his early works were reminscent of chopin, and influenced by him. You can hear that here, its very different from the style he adopted in composing later on. Still, if I heard this I would not call it chopin, its an interesting mix between chopinism, and russian sounding melodies.
yes, to :playin...
Scriabin in tearjerker mode....
@fallenangel3652 Actually I hear a lot of Chopin influence in a lot of Scriabin's works (mostly his early works though), but hey imitation is the best form of flattery.
@PwningIRL
What's the best you heard then?
that's odd: are you sure? I'm playing this piece right now, and it's definitely op. 8, no. 11
rmannion bringing it.
@fallenangel3652 why not?
Songs are sung. Scriabin wrote only one. You mean pieces, or works.
@lonewolf604 Scriabin > Chopin
True, Schumann longed to be his pupil and practiced his F sharp minor sonata. Liszt couldn't pay for the lesson fees, he ended up learning with Czerny instead, who taught him for free. Mendelssohn had the privilege of getting lessons from this great master. In some ways, his genius even rivalled that of the great Beethoven.
Come on....1:02-1:42 is so chopin.
Let me rephrase myself though. The scriabin you hear here is very different than the scriabin from much later on.
I don't play it perfectly but maybe i can help you out.
well for once youtube is bringing the crazy straight to us even when i try to listen to some nice piano. theres a special hell for people like you: the army
yugk
Not bad for Horowitz? Even Rachmaninoff admitted Horowitz was better than him. I don't think anyone can argue against that.
I have a version that is faster and I like it better, also played by Horowitz.
Baah I don't like the guitar =P I'm going to listen that Fuga
and going to hell
pas mal pour du Horowitz, d'habitude je n'aime pas.
This doesn't sound like Horowitz at all, it has none of his traits, none of his delicacy and subtle taste. Instead, pointless stops and rubatos. Not that it's a bad rendition, just not very Horowitz-ian in style.
I know, but it's Horowitz's piano for sure.
This is Horowitz.
It is SIGNATURE Horowitz.
You probably don’t need to be listening Scriabin.
Scriabin + Horowitz = Masterpiece
Love Scriabin. Never heard this etude before and it is now a favorite right after op 2 no 1 and op 8 no 12
I dont think that Rachmaninoff said he was better than him but I do recall reading that Rachmaninoff said that Horowitz plays his works better than he does. I could be wrong.
I believe the comment was specifically about his third concerto actually.
Don't you like Horowitz and Scriabin?
Very bad ...you can't love me.
In fact, Mozart influenced Hummel, Hummel influenced Chopin, Chopin influenced Scriabin.
That dotted triplet figure in the left hand that occurs first around 1:03 is very evocative of the romantic school of chopin and liszt in my opinion.
I agree. The challenge in this piece is to make sure that all of the voices are heard in each layer at the appropriate time. Horowitz was an expert at really making the voice "sing" with the right kind of sadness or desperation a piece like this commands.
This is quite a nice piece, very much chopin esque, but nice nonetheless.
But I think the late Scriabin is where he shines, the black mass is my favorite etude from him
pure mastership, listening to pop-music after listening to this is like dying
very nice description - i agree, no wonder i love scriabin so much!!
No, i am a guitarist, but i do take some piano lessons at school. I've been playing for 2 years soon. I'm working on Fuga Y Misterio for 2 pianos at the time. Pretty cool piece.
This is the first time I hear this, it's so peaceful. Five stars!
Mike (the bonehead) Wallace: Maestro, are you nervous before you go out on stage?
Horowitz: No, I'm not nervous, because when I go out on that stage I know I am KInGkh".
Are u supposed to play those left hand chords in one stretch??? e.g the b g g 3rd bar 1st page.
just supposed to play it good
Concerning Scriabin has small hands, i’d assume not no.
oh, thank you for correcting me. I thought i broke that habit a long time back...
You mean, Chopin was influenced by Hummel, like how Scriabin was influenced by Chopin?
je suis apprendre francais :) si vous pouvier me dire ce que "lien" est, je pourrais vous aider, je ne parle bien en francais et il faut que je pratique lol
This piece is actually not all that difficult. I learned it a couple years ago. A couple of uncommon harmonies here and there, but otherwise, it sits pretty easily under the fingers.
But listening to this after listening to pop music is like being born again!
There's really no comparison. Nothing beats the beauty of piano music.
Est-ce que vous avez un lien de cet concert? Où un fichier, où un lien pour télécharger ce pièce? Merci en avance.
I think its assumed that what you can't reach you play similarly to what was written in the first bar concerning the bass
Beautiful music performed wonderfully! Horowitz's use of dynamics and rubato is very expressive and sensitive. Thank you for posting this...
Oh such a haunting melody! I thank you for having the sheet music going along with the melody.
Toda la música de Scriabin es perfecta. Junto con Ravel y Debussy son dioses!! Grandioso!!
Well the album is wrong D:
Woow this is pretty good. Not the best I've heard, though.
and his nocturnes :)
Thank you! :)
I have the album Horowitz plays Scriabin and it says that this Etude is Op 8. no 7.
It's no 11 for sure.