Commons erupts as Lee Anderson tells Ed Davey to resign over Post Office row in brutal PMQs attack
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- Опубликовано: 9 янв 2024
- Tory deputy chairman Lee Anderson today piled pressure on Liberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey to resign over the Post Office scandal. He told Sir Ed to begin 'clearing his desk, clear his diary and clear off' amid intense public anger at the wrongful prosecution of hundreds of sub-postmasters.
Tory MP Lee Anderson sparked uproar in the Commons this afternoon after using his PMQs question to demand Sir Ed Davey "clear off" over his part in the Post Office scandal.
Mr Anderson told MPs that the Horizon Post Office scandal had seen hundreds of innocent sub-postmasters sent to prison, including one of his own constituents.
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Davey should go. If he had any decency he would step down. He hasn't. So he won't.
😂🤣😂🤣 They all knew about it.
He leads a political party that wanted to ignore a democratic vote the referendum.... He now wants to blame all his advisers regarding the victimisation of British workers (over a 25 year period) where the establishment chose to believe a multinational company over British workers with some losing their homes, being driven into debt, being put in prison and some taking their own lives.. Globalists Britain where nice Liberal politicians chase the Globalists Dollar big time, nice house nice holidays.
Step down ! He should be sacked
If parliament had any decency Anderson would never be in it!
@@Viper91157 Davey is head of the Lib Dems - but none of them have any decency - It's a cruel world
The people at the top of the post office must go to prison for this miscarriage of justice
and Fujitsu who must have known
And all in the legal system that "helped"
Not just the Post Office, it goes way deeper.
And the judges who sent these people to prison.
@@philippedley5073 the Judges made their decision in the evidence before them. Unfortunately the Post Office was telling lies.
Total and absolute failure to answer the question. Ed Davey should go, but not before explaining why a bunch of over paid lawyers who were prosecuting post masters, felt inclined to grease his palm with payments of over £250,000. I smell another cover up.
The Tories never answer questions either. And as for the money. How much have the Tories made too?.
@@audreymcgready4329 er, Sunak is a Tory, what are u on about?!
I'm not sure (or perhaps I am ) why he only mentions Ed Davey. Perhaps he's forgotten the long list of Tory Ministers responsible for the Post Office over the lifetime of this scandal. And who gave Paula Fennells a CBE?
@@audreymcgready4329billions!!
The lawyers don't like a blanket exoneration... because it does them out of money.
I can't stand smarmy Sunak, he does not give a toss.
He's just Blair in a more politically correct skin.
£75.000 for getting your life ruined by a corrupt kangaroo court system how many back handers went on to Bastards
It’s an upfront payment there will be more to follow it’s not the final sum
Apparently £350 million per week has been set aside for this 🤷♂️
I can see over 500 people who should resign in shame in this video alone
Exactly.
Ed Davey obviously should ' clear off ' but he's not alone . What about the mangers in post office and software company that provided faulty product causing the problem in first place ?
We need prosecutions and prison time for guilty.
Exactly to many wanting to squirm away like Rats down a drain pipe not one should be allowed to escape prosecution.
Fujitsu ( tory donor's )why do they still get multi-million contracts.
Because the Tories are so corrupt it's in their DNA. and they believe taking dodgy donations is fine and can't understand why people make a fuss.
It’s easier for the Tories to blame the opposition than to look at the real events
@@jordoncampbell5118 because the chief is married to a Cabinet Minister
The general public will not rest until they see the criminals responsible for this outrage in handcuffs.
Edd the Davey ,Y.M.C.A. liberally democratic ,gone POSTAL.
I don't think the general public cares to be honest. It'll be forgotten about in a week's time. I do think Ed Davey should resign though.
Never ever going to happen lol you do realise that in British democracy those who make the rules and then brake them get put into the house of Lords not a prison cell prison is just for us plebs to keep us in line not the rich bastards that are destroying the country
the 'general public' sat on their big fat arses when a serving CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER paid a fine to HMRC because they caught him trying to EVADE millions in tax. After the TAX EVADER is STILL a serving MP.
In prison
Sadly it's the TV programme that brought it into light not the government
No, it was Computer Weekly, Private Eye and Panorama etc, it was brought to light years ago!!
Weasel Ed will worm his way out of this scandal
Ed Davie wasn't even in the house of commons today running scared.
yep
That alone implies guilt .
Until recently a string of ministers failed to take much action on this scandal,though.
Tories have been in power for 14 years, but you moan about Ed Davey.
Just shows how dishonest Tory supporters are
@@darengardner6219 no it doesnt
The whole system is rotten.
You hit the nail on the head ,
Ain't that the TRUTH
It hasn't sunk in with the British public. The MPs and government are there for 1 thing only. Themselves and big business PEOPLE. Take a peek up north to sturgeon and SNP.
And Sunak avoids the question completely..🤔What a surprise.
Because he knows that if he foces Davey out then dozens of them will have to go. There's been 15 ministers for the post office in this time, yet only one is required to go?
He just reads a generic quote, probably from A.I
He can talk! What about all the Tory MPs implicated in this awful scandal who have sat on their arses for the past 13 years doing sweet F A.
I think the point is that Davey has a history of calling for resignations at the drop of a hat. Perhaps he should avoid being a hypocrite.
Labour leader included 😢
What about the Covid Cover Up Enquiry???
Ed Davey has no honor
What did he do wrong?
All of them can not be trusted.
The post office, the police, Fujitsu, the auditors, HMRC , DPP ( Starmer) Post office minister Davey, the lawyers have all let these people down.
eh? whats it got to do with Starmer?
@@steveturner6770research it. I believe it was something to do with him making the decision not to take matters further back when it happened.. I may be mistaken so do research it...
Absolutely nothing.Pretty sure DPP not involved as Post Office has power to prosecute.Ludicrous but true.
@@loonaticsrunningtheassylum The law allows the CPS to call in private prosecutions but not criminal prosecutuons. The submasters were prosecuted under criminal law. As these prosecutions were going for 16 years yet Starmer was only at the CPS for 4 1/2 of those years years I still fail to understand why anyone would mention Starmers non-involvement in the first instance. No wonder the guilty parties get away with things in the UK.
Everyone of of them are complicit,all should be jailed for the harm they caused.
The sad thing is, even if Ed Davey steps down as a politician, he will somehow be rewarded with a top job elsewhere. This country constantly seems to reward those who are most incompetent/corrupt with high paying positions.
It's not their competence or honesty they are hired for, it's their connections.
@@jona826 very true mate! It's a sad state of affairs.
Possibly elevated to the other House?
The greatest miscarriage of justice is sunak being prime minister
And Cameron being Foreign Secretary.
Not to mention the fact that the War Criminal, Tony Blair is still a free man or that Sad Dick Khant is still Mayor of London......
One of the greatest injustices in the history of our country and it took an ITV drama days to do what successive politicians couldn’t do in 21 years.
Special thanks should go to Andrew Bridgen who oversaw hundreds of convictions were quashed over this issue. The Tory party are a disgrace.
What did Bridgen do to quash these convictions? Hes not mentioned by Alan Bates as helping.
@@steveturner6770 he got involved when approached by constituents that were affected. Cant remember who was it was who interviewed him tho, it may be worth looking up on YT.
When the PM says 'we have paid this and we have paid that' what he is really saying is the British tax payer has paid. WHY. Surly the Post office and Fujitsu should be paying? The monies they took from their workers is in their coffers. They must be made to pay it all back and all compensation that is to be paid in the , hopefully, not too distant future.
Great point well made
Corporations look after each other. The taxed peasants will ALWAYS get fleeced
The millions that will be paid out in compensation, which you correctly pointed out is our tax money, would have been better spent on funding the NHS, yes the postmasters quite rightly deserve compensation to which the Post Office and Fujitsu should be paying.
What I think is disgusting is that it's taken a tv drama to highlight this appalling situation. I've known about it and been following the story for years.
Been ongoing for almost 25 years , only when the public at large find out MPs reluctantly do there job ffs.
Anybody would think that these MPs only found out about this scandal after watching the TV.
Spot on
I’d read about it but, I don’t think it was covered enough. Unfortunately the media seem obsessed with so called celebrities and politicians (easy work) these days and we’re bombarded with info about their lives. Sadly(I think) that is what a lot of the general public seem to be interested in.
@@lindavincent708the media helps to influence the prevailing narrative in society. _”energy flows where the attention goes.”_
Sunak answers a question that was never asked.
This was only a snapshot of the debate, he was asked what he was doing about it. This clip didn't show him being asked any question, it only showed him talking after Lee Anderson's intervention.
@@patricklee6206 Ah, cheers for that. I hadn't realised.
So much is going on politically these days that no-one can possibly know everything about all of it however hard they try1
All those that attributed to the scandal of the 700+ Posties must be brought to justice
Time to hold politicians accountable.
will never happen
ALL THEM LOOK INTO THERE BANKS SEE WHO ELSE MAD MILLIONS OFF COVID AND BOUGHT ISLANDS WE NEED MPs TO WORK FOR UK NOT THERE BANK ACCOUNTS
The only way is for people to get on the street and demand it, but people to comfortable YET.
It is always time to hold politicians accountable but they never accept responsibility for any mistakes, but accept the praise for success.
How do you fix a justice system that is responsible for so many unjust convictions .
you would have to depoliticise it first.
Britain isn't America. Judges aren't selected by politicians. Maybe learn how your country actually works before making such ignorant comments.@@qboid4763
The injustice system isn't designed to give us peasants justice. It's another theatre show just like every part of this corrupt system
Republic the whole system needs rebooting 😑
Yeah, because America and France are working out so well. And that's completely ignoring the fact that how a Justice system works isn't intrinsic to any given form of government.
TBH you come across like some uneducated fanatic looking for ways to shoehorn your "cause" into every possible topic in a desperate bid to find some relevance or approval.@@barbararice6650
Good for Lee! Ed Davey should take his own advice.
Notice he never said yes He should.
How many mps sitting in that room ignored this 30 year scandal covered up by all parties.
Like most middle aged people I'm jaded and bored of politics and don't allow it to make me feel much emotion but the way they treated these postmasters is sickening. People should be going to jail
Where do you get the idea that “most middle aged people” are jaded and bored with politics, or are you just assuming that? Sounds like the sort of thing a politician would say.
@@colinstewart173 a politician would say people are jaded with politics? Would a clown also people are jaded with the circus? Worst post of the day. Well done Brains.
@@capio78 so your statement most middle aged people was made up then but I’m the clown. Well done 👏🏻. This clown is not illiterate either
@@colinstewart173 Yougov poll :51% were bored of the last election. 72% take no interesting in politics. Over to you Brains.
There is now a petition on 38 Degrees to strip Ed Davey of his knighthood
Look at all those there for the post office yet none stay to hear about the excess deaths we’re currently being plagued by
Exactly.
Nor Andrew bridgen trying to save our sovereign rights from the WHO
But they are after blood. Ed Davey and a few others. Nice isn’t it when they can shout at someone else
How, exactly, do you compensate and provide justice for those for whom the only way was suicide?
Sunak makes me vomit.
The very worst kind of politicians.
Roddy from flushed away?
They should be fining and prosecuting Fujitsu for their faulty software and retrieving damages for the victims. But no, they would all rather keep stealing our tax money to pay for their mistakes.
Ok, how do you expect the UK to prosecute a Japanese company?
It trades in UK, and has a UK division. It's not complicated. @@tickledeggz
Well said 👍👍👍
Clear his desk? And make room in a cell! Like those wrongly convicted
They are all guilty of prolonging the agony of these innocent people...smart speeches don't sort things out, it requires immediate action.
The way Sunak dodges questions, he would be a world dodge ball champion applying those skills.
The man has a better side step than Phil Bennett had against the All Blacks.
Surely Kabbadi ?
Blair was PM and Starmer was DPP when the problems with Horizon were first reported yet they done NOTHING
What has any of this to do with Starmer? He qwas working for a law firm when these problems were first reported, 9 years before he was DPP. Even then, the CPS can only interfere in untoward private civil matters, not criminal matters & these innocent sub postmasters were convicted of criminal matters. I'm not surprised nothing ever gets sorted out in the UK when people are trying to blame anyone except the guilty parties. Why do you think Starmer is to blame?
@@steveturner6770 is Starmer to blame for kicking Jeremy Corbyn out of the party?
@@clivet3252 probably
@@steveturner6770 do you not see the same mentality and the same injustice in the way Jeremy Corbyn was treated?
You get the prize for today’s most stupid and badly written comment. This whole affair had nothing to do with Starmer. The fault lies with Fujitsu for the software programme and the Post Office for its mismanagement.
Only this 3 bob MP could make a cheap political point out of this. What has he done for his constiuant? What has the whole lot of them done. They all knew about it.
What about tainted blood scandal? Slow, yet they all know about it!
What about Windrush? Slow, yet thy all know about it!
Grenfell
Hospital scandals
All slow.
They're relying on the short memories of the sheeple ! Always seems to work too. People in this Country are too docile, complacent and comfortable !
All complicit should be in jail
Takes a TV programme to expose this?, they all knew, takes a TV programme for them to react,
Anderson so thick he diesnt realise the Tories are equally to blame for doing bugger all about the scandal.
And how many of the Post Office management and board who lied and ordered others to lie before a court of justice against innocent men and women will be charged and sent to prison. Including the Lords and Ladies who have friends in very high places. Probably none.
Amazing how fast they all act on something when they're at fault which shows you they have no intention of stopping boats
This scandal has been kept safe n the back burner for years. It’s only being dragged out and “dealt with” now to act as a distraction. Yes what happened to hundreds of sub-postmasters is dreadful, but it pales in comparison to the thousands of excess deaths being recorded weekly, the explosion in numbers of cancer cases and other health issues related to mRNA vaccines rollout.
I'm glad there is someone out there that see through all the BS
Yes, Kerry, a distraction indeed. Ignoring the biggest scandal of recent times.
Bang on point! ❤️🇳🇿
Grenfell Tower & PPE, Hillsborough ...similar patterns of issues @@martinwebb1681
Unfortunately justice will never happen. The gov (a corporation) along with the police (a corporation) the entire legal system (a corporation) will protect their profit and business model above all else.
as usual, the actual question wasnt answered
The house of criminals.
It's nothing less.
Typical politicians. All jumping on the bandwagon all of a sudden. Pathetic - sums most of them up quite frankly!
Rishi ... that man just asked you a question. Well, Paula Vennells was the boss of the Post Office but, in a funny way, Ed Davey was her boss, so it wouldn't be unreasonable for him to be similarly held responsible for the outrage. He has form for demanding all sorts of penitence from other people who have stepped out of line, and I think it's time for the biter to be bit!
There's a surprise Sunak not answering a question.
Why single out Ed Davey? All parties have questions to answer. Blair introduced Horizon. The Tory Party has been slow to put matters right as regards the aggrieved sub post masters and pay them adequate compensation. There have been 17 ministers responsible for postal services since 2000 when Horizon was rolled out if Davey is forced to resign why should not the others?
Rishi gets asked a simple yes or no question and goes on to not answer it and reiterate how bad he feels for everyone. What is is even the point of the commons again?
Lee Anderson should resign himself
I just love how there pointing the blame at other mp’s. This as been in public eye and more so in governments eye for decades and now it’s all over tv. It’s a national disgrace. Typical politicians
How the judicial system did not smell a rat is also questionable!
I wonder how many of these criminals have their sticky fingers in the pie.. ?
Sunak answers questions like my MP. However detailed, however clear ... ask a question they don't want to answer and presto, you get the usual statements that we knew already. At least I don't feel alone now as Anderson got the same sort of reply that I get from my tory MP.
He should but he won't. Neither will he deny his knighthood.
Lee Anderson didn't get an answer to the question asked, he did however receive a load of waffle that already been given in the house earlier.
They should all resign apart from Andrew Bridgen
Be jailed for treason in my opinion
Because hes a proven liar in court? Or because he was caught taking backhanders from Ghana? Why shouldnt he resign?
I'm more Interested that the Post Office Guilty Go to JAIL !
It's really important that we don't allow knee-jerk demands for immediate resignations of prominent politicians to short-circuit, or pre-empt, the work of the Horizon Inquiry. The work being done here is vital for revealing the role of all politicians and employees of Post Office and Fujitsu at all levels, and there's no doubt that Sir Wyn and the Inquiry's solicitors are well aware of exactly who is responsible (from past sessions) and who is likely to be (based on sessions to come). Resignations will undoubtedly follow, but in the meantime we finally have a route to getting justice and compensation for those affected very quickly after a long delay.
Oh my goodness these tories have had nearly 14 years with this information? Why have they done absolutely nothing? and it has took publics absolute disgust is this matter that it has not been addressed to make them react, and pretend to be appalled? Oh! It’s so very sickening and false!🤷♂️
There is an election coming up
Sunak did not even answer the question asked of him by Mr. Anderson. Surely it is time he (Sunak) grew some ‘balls’. Might I suggest some lemon chicken ones from the nearest ‘take away’?
They WILL NOT answer questions! As far as I am concerned every single MP (with one or two exceptions)should resign for what they have done and are continuing to do to this great country! Where oh where is our Oliver Cromwell?
They will not dig to deep they do not want the judges who colluded with the royal mail dragged into this.
Brilliant Lee
Being a politician, Davey will just tough it out and not fall on his sword. Are we surprised?
A masterful display of obfuscation and not answering the question. But one must add, in all other matters, this PM sets himself the lowest of standards - and then fails to live up to them.
Rishi seems proud that the government spent £150 million (of our money) on compensation for 2,500 victims of government incompetence and fraud - that equates to just £60,000 per person for loss of income, stress, imprisonment foe some, broken marriages and suicides. - the ministers would spill that much taxpayer subsidised booze at lunchtime - It's a cruel world,
Sunak as chancellor, knowing full well the details of the case, also did nothing and continued to award billions of pounds worth of contracts to Fujitsu, the company responsible for the software and a significant donator to "the cause". By all means clap Davy in irons if he is found guilty. Do not forget to charge and convict the rest of that criminal fraternity, tory or otherwise.
Full house today where were they all when our sovereign rights were being discussed in the house !
Well said loved this
Those that live by the sword , die by the sword , he can not call for all of those people to resign , and not resign himself , ........don't hold your breath waiting though
Sunak couldn't say much because most of the Ministers responsible for the Post Office scandal are Tories.
Horizon brought in by the Blair government, most people charged under a Blair government starker was head of the prosecution service at the time, Tories inherited the mess and have been very poor resolving the issue but Davey was the post office minister who failed to do his job. He should now do the right thing and resign. No party comes out well in this instance just degrees of badness.
The post office suspense accounts still hold this stolen money .. except the bit that went to the crooks obscene bonuses!
Totally agree with Lee Anderson tell Davey to go he always tells everybody else to.
Nice to know the tax payer is picking up the cost of this. I guess the Post Office directors will keep their bonus.
For once, Sunak could have answered a question incontrovertibly. Imagine if it was Mrs T who had stood up in response to this question. She would have ground Ed Davey into dust with her mockery, for his hypocrisy in calling for others to resign for their supposed misdemeanours, when he will not (so far), and his sheer cowardice in staying away and probably crying to Mummy. She would have mocked Ed Davey unremorsefully, but Sunak, apart from his ability to stab other's in the back for what he himself has done, and totting up a balance sheet, has no talents for PM on show whatsoever..........
Davey I'd quick to tell others to resign. Let's see if he will fall on HIS sword.
Compensated by the tax payer do you mean while they walk away scot free keep their jobs and walk away with their extravagant pensions, the whole system is corrupt, it is time it changed.
Mr Sunak obviously didn't hear Lee Anderson's question!🤔
Send all those culpable for this to prison, and let's have justice.
Compensation paid from Tax payers money....should come out of the pockets of those who were involved.
They think compensation will right the injustice
Modern mindset..."The Computer Says No "...permeates all official response to corporate mistake / misdeed ...after all...how can it be possible for a sophisticated digital software program to make mistakes ?...its frightening to think this entrenched philosophy will only deepen with the advent of AI
Clear off to prison Davey
😂
Don’t worry Lee you’ll soon clearing your own desk
Defo 😊
I think 30p lee has forgot that when ed Davy was a minister the Tories were in power
Lee doesn't care about facts just hot air 😊
The coalition of which he was a minister was in power.
Oh yes Lee, fully agree with you!
Why have the taxpayers having to pay for this, should be the company that supplied the faulty software.
Because a Tory Minister is married to the largest shareholder of Fujitsu, Gillian Keegan so she'll make sure that the taxpayer pays
@@steveturner6770 So true,.
Criminally negligent. As for those who KNEW, they are just criminals.
Whilst I agree wholeheartedly that the post office scandal is a terrible miscarriage of justice I cannot agree that it is the worst! That honour goes to May, Boris and Sunak for the utter betrayal of this country.
Funny how he picks out a Lib Dem but says nothing about the 16 other ministers who were equally culpable.
Most of them Tory, that why
the point is that Davey is quick to ask for others to resign?
Make sure that WE the taxpayers DO NOT foot the bill either.
This MUST and SOULD be paid by the POST OFFICE and FUJITSU
One criminal asking another criminal if another criminal should resign
Yes get out Ed and shut the door behind you. Its rather cold 🥶