'Anything to say to her?' Post Office investigator Stephen Bradshaw challenged over Horizon scandal
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Post Office investigator Stephen Bradshaw challenged over his role in the Horizon scandal that saw many sub-postmasters jailed due to errors in an IT system.
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I am speechless at this man's utter lack of integrity, his arrogance and "only following orders" stance. Lock him up.
A friend of my MIL’s was briefly a junior investigator and she was “only following orders” too - the difference is that when she became aware those orders were wrong and she had been involved in persecuting innocent people, she couldn’t cope with the shame. Even though she only did her job and was utterly unaware of the wider picture, she tried to turn herself into the police. She’s a shell of her former self and will never get over it. The difference between her and this man is mindblowing.
They (Post Office) have a lot to answer for. I cried as I watched the programme.@@kitm141
Integity is not a word that any Post Office investigator knows.
Damned right.
Definitely trying to use the Nuremberg defence the man has the spine of a jellyfish
This man is lying through his teeth. Disgraceful.
I disagree, he does not appear to have the wit to lie convincingly.
Quite. He can barely speak English.
Ha also doesn't seem to know that he has committed several offences by making false witness statements because he was "told too", by lawyers. He knows nothing about Horizon, so how can he investigate anything? He cannot!
Scouse is so orrible 😂
Being deliberately evasive doesn't even come close enough to describe so many of his answers.
It appears to me that Mr Bradshaw is more interested in denying any accountanility than supplying any constructive evidence to the enquiry
Not me, not my case guv.
It was the lawyers
I completely agree with you but I'd swap accountability for culpability as he stated that he held PACE (Police and criminal evidence) interviews yet he wasn't a policeman. I wonder how he sleeps at night.
Lock him up
@@kronk420 ahh is this where the PO have their special powers to investigate and prosecute?
Not sure a police officer necessarily needs to conduct an interview. Sure I heard somewhere that it's one of these efficiency things to keep more police free for street work/powers of arrest - if they're in interview rooms they're not available to arrest/patrol the streets
What a odious person he is
That was an uncomfortable watch.
He's an absolute creep.
It's shocking to think that this inarticulate thug was employed by the Post Office in any capacity.
He was employed because he IS a thug.... You want a result then employ someone who will get it... The facts mean nothing when you badger and bully over and over.. That is how confessions have been gotten for decades...
@@YAMR1M Good point.
What do you mean"was" he is still employed as an investigator.
@@johnhiggins6984 He claims that he has NOT been involved with any direct investigation for a number of years. According to his interview at the official inquiry.
Makes you wonder what his role is now...
Anyone can see that this guy Stephen Bradshaw is trying very hard to dismiss all the wrongdoing by himself.What a nasty piece of work.
He's not only a nasty POW but clearly not very bright either- how on earth did he get a job doing something that required him to evaluate evidence and understand the post office's systems?
A jobsworth. And a really nasty one at that.
Probably a debt collector in his previous life. 🤮
Total scumbag
NASTY PIECE OF WORK............... seems to sum him up perfectly. I'd NOT like to meet up with him in any way shape or form.
@@hoperp1951i wouldnt mind
This man does not show one iota of regret or aplogise for his actions. He comes across as arrogant, uncaring and totally emotionless. He needs to suffer the same consequences that he dished out.
He must be a sociopath. Should probably work as a bailiff.
@@robbie_That’s his next career move . . .
lock him up for a lot longer
What an excellent job he must have. Apparently you dont actually do anything whatsoever, dont speak to anyone, never discuss work either. The office must be silent.
Too many of this in our country sadly
Guy ruins someone's life and acts like he's the victim. What a despicable man.
What the hell was he doing in the interview. It’s unrealistic to think he had no involvement or input.
He's a scouser.....they are 'always the victim'
@@alantarr3115 Weird bit of bigotry to drop in there..
@@alantarr3115 Well, you can take the Scouser out of Liverpool but you can never take Liverpool out of the Scouser.
@@HopeIsFleeting.....you need to "treat" yourself to a visit to Liverpool.....brace yourself...
This guy needs to be sent to prison
No, award him a CBE. He clearly deserves one!
you are spot on hard to watch this worm sorry
no an OSCAR@@kurtgodel5236
Several times.
Maybe. Street justice is probably a better one . He will be protected in prison
This man belongs behind bars. Let justice begin.
Which justice? Like in the USA there is Fake Justice for the ruling elite and a much lower level of justice for the average citizen.
Don't hold your breath.
Careful there, judge. You may be guilty of what you're charging.
What law did he broke? Bad business behaviour is not the same as breaking the law.
It depends. Was he aware of the problems with Horizon, and if not is it reasonable to expect that he should have been? How far were his conclusions and the outcome of the cases he investigated left to him to decide, and how much were they the responsibility of Post Office management?
I'm not saying he is or isn't guilty, just saying let's not try to make up for one miscarriage of justice by having another one.
Stephen Bradshaw would be one of the first I would love to see go to jail for a very long time.
Agreed. Nasty Man. We can all see it.
That would be real justice. Thug in a suit.
He is a vile coward
Hope he gets his porridge
Fact
More of a vicious interrogator than an investigator.
His whole demeaner is aggresive and unsavoury, what an unpleasant individual.
And he exercised that bullying on the post masters/mistresses.
This is what he’s like on a panel in public. Imagine what he was like in private
He’s like a Roald Dahl villain
Imagine how he treated the innocent postmasters.... he probably bullied them with his vile tone of voice and nasty demeanor
I think odious is the word
"I was only obeying orders! " What an awful schoolyard bully of a man.
His is exactly the face I imagined Arendt wrote about.
Stalin would have been proud.
He just missing the nazi uniform
They said that at Nuremberg.
That's what Nazis said at Nuremberg....
His attitude and body language are aggressive. Can you imagine when he and his side kicks turned up and grilled the sub postmasters!. It must have been frightening.
The last time he was told he was wrong was when he was a postie in 1978....He seems the type who wouldn't take any professional critical advice or personal criticism whatsoever. He's right, everyone else is wrong....& guilty.
I shudder to think about it.
He is such a vile creep. Disgusting
He is an investigator and suddenly is trying to sound like he was the janitor the whole time.
You can tell from his voice that this bloke isn't used to being held accountable for anything. Imagine how many lives he ruined because he was on a power trip.
If you've had a long career in institutions - manufacturing, medical, social or governmental - you've met this guy or gal - both are deadly.
You can tell from his voice that he couldn't care less.
I think he will care quite soon about what's going to be happening to him, the political world has turned on these shits now, they will all be thrown under the bus
Yes, his whole attitude is giving off big how-dare-you-question-me energy.
So, why is this guy still employed by the PO as an "investigator" if he just does a half-assed job of "investigating"? *_I_* was reading the Computer Weekly and Private Eye reporting at the time - and I'm no investigator. Furthermore, he signs statements (for criminal proceedings) dictated by his bosses without question, later agreeing that they were wrong anyway. An awful man who should be put in the stocks for ruining people's lives.
What exactly is he being paid for? If you believe his testimony, he knows nothing, thinks nothing, decides nothing and does nothing.
Should be in jail
But he thinks he's smarter than everyone else. The arrogance of the corrupt!!!
More than my job's worth type of bloke. The whole Uk is filled with people like him!!
And those above him
This man seems to be completely devoid of any moral responsibility or integrity, but he has one thing in abundance and that's arrogance
bet he doesn't go down to his local for pint anymore or take his whippet out for a walk
Nice one
So did Ernst Kaltenbrunner at Nürnberg in 1945
Pity d dog
@@mikejones-tf6zo Let them taste some of their own medicine. The living hell they have put these innocent victims through for many years is despicable.
What a disgusting, slimy and vile creature. Ironically, he put an innocent woman in jail but it’s actually *him* that isn’t believable at all. When will we ever learn that employing dishonest thugs in positions of security and policing is one of our worst failings as a society. Smh
Always, its their natural habitat
They are attractive as complicit hirelings who will bend to the will of whoever in charge is cracking the whip. People with obvious compassion and an open mind won't get past the first interview.
I feel VERY uncomfortable watching & listening to Stephen Bradshaw....As a Post Office long-service employee, he seemed to be a cosy-in-his-job & unaccountable internal bully boy detective type character....This guy had huge power, & appears to have loved the thrill of the ''chase & catch'' of all these new Post Office 'thieves' that the Horizon IT system created, & he also seemed to enjoy the power-play of rubbing shoulders with barristers & the criminal prosecution team & even influencing them to pursue stronger charges against the victims...A disturbing tale is emerging about this inarticulate & even dangerous man's actions.
@Ben I couldn't agree more
Ah,the Donald trump defence
700 people prosecuted, i.e. 10% of PMs. He must have been busy bee.
He is rather inarticulate, isn't he?
Accurayte assessment .
What a weasel. Whether or not Mr Bradshaw was part of any particular prosecution is irrelevant to his duty to flag up any concerns he may have had about the investigations or prosecutions. In fact, since he claimed not to understand the Horizon software, why was he investigating anyone at all? It is clear that Mr Bradshaw was a bully and completely unqualified to do his job. Perhaps he should repay his bonuses for his shoddy work.
He was investigating because His Bosses got him to do it !
@@chrislambert9435 By his own admission, he wasn't intelligent enough to understand what he was investigating and was therefore totally unqualified for the role.
I suppose he could have got the tea & biscuits for the real investigators - people bright enough to ask intelligent questions!
A weasel indeed!
have you ever noticed coppers are like this claim to know every thing untill it goes agaist there own reality they already made up.then all of a suddon they know nothing .
blames everyone else
He is guilty as sin, just look at his body language and complete contempt for the enquiry.
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He was suitably dressed for what appears to be his funeral . . . how apt!
@@FissionChips Well he is hanging himself with his own rope
@@Steve14psyeah but will criminal charges come out of this for the likes of bradshaw?
@@Eleventhearlofmars If they don't he will be constantly looking over his shoulders when he takes his dog for a walk
As an American (albeit one who travelled to the UK often) I had never heard of the Post Office scandal until about 2 weeks ago when I happened upon the mini-series Mr. Bates vs the Post Office. I was absolutely gobsmacked that such a thing could happen and go on for over 20 years without a just resolution. It had me in tears for those whose lives were ruined - or ended. Listening to this shameless, hypocritical coward, the tears have stopped - and the anger has really taken over. He, and everyone who collaberated or turned a blind eye as he did, needs to go to prison for lengthy sentences. He helped ruin thousands of lives - and shows no regret or remorse - and no mercy should be shown.
Brilliantly said.
@@markwatts4750 Thank you! The series is finally airing here in the US on PBS and I will watch it again.
The worse that happened in the entire situation is the cover up that perpetuated the loss of lives, livelihoods and reputations. There needs to be prosecutions of those high ranking officials involved and huge compensation for the victims.. this whole situation is absolutely bloody disgraceful.
Look up our fabled satirical magazine Private Eye, it has a separate file on this scandal. They have been covering this since Computing Weekly broke the scandal. While you are there have a look for the contaminated blood scandal. That is still ongoing.
The Judges should be held to account as well .... they destroyed a 1000 lives as well. Beautifully written above.
I am a retired Police Sergeant and now a criminal lawyer. This man strikes me as a grade one bully and a totally charmless individual who should never be allowed to conduct an interview. I would love to hear the full interview he conducted and his true copy of his thoughts after the interview. He looks what he is.
Scum
He is just spewing out exactly what the Nazis who were on trial at various hearings after the second world war did. "I was only following orders. I was only there , I did nothing". The equivalent of "the big boys made me do it". A total and utter coward. A morally bankrupt excuse of a Human being. He will get his just desserts. Public humiliation is a powerful medicine, however, it does not stop there.He will be the vilified. The spat upon. The ostracised. The game is only just starting for him.
Hi ! (Fellow law student here) U-Tube search Stephen Bradshaw 11th of January, day 103 on the official post office inquiry channel here on RUclips. Private prosecution/ investigation are something else aren’t they!? Hope this helps
He is a Dissgusting person, he should go to jail
Bingo my friend. Bingo. He makes me ashamed to be a Scouser!
This is what happens when untrained and unaccountable people get to play being a policeman. He probably thought he was in the Sweeney and was getting off on it.
Must have watched a lot of films about concentration camps
Most are ex police.
Most are ex retired police 🤔
Very well trained to be honest. They had a very clear plan and knew exactly what they were doing, and that was stitching up innocent people to cover for their failing IT system that cost the government billions and was being hailed by POL themselves as being completely and totally failure proof. It was in their (and the government's) best interests to tighten the screws on the postmasters, their staff and their families as much as possible. Nothing like egg on the face to make investigators, managers, conglomerates, ministers and the judiciary decide to tow a line. It's happened many times before, and horizon will not be the last to come to the surface.
Your absolutely right there mate hes been watching to many americian cop films .but this country is getting so corupt .youve only gotta look at some of the english cops .all pumped up etc acting like American policeman
Speechless. Utter disgrace. 'It wasn't me - honest' . A prime example of why an organisation shouldn't have the power to investigate itself.
Someone should tell that to the professional standards unit of every police force in the UK. Another poison institution.
This Bradshaw man is so inadequate, to the point being barely Literate .
@@woodenseagull1899 he's like a really thick version of Stan Boardman.
this man deserves to face a long prison sentence
Can’t believe he can sit there knowing fully well what was going on here. Like RATS deserting a sinking ship I hope he gets what’s coming
What about when the accused pleaded guilty, He must have thought He made the correct decision ? The accused signed Their Statements !
Paula Vennels and other CEO's should be held to account and taken to court for fraud and Blackmail, Extortion and misleading the court system.
THERE IS no evidence (as yet) for those charges. They are simply what you image what happened. I doubt it will be proved. There WAS bad corporate practice that perhaps people like Bradsahw are helping to cover up for his bosses, but that does NOT amount to criminal behaviour, however reprehensible it was.
I am not sure that fraud, black ail, extortion or misleading are appropriate charges, but certainly all those involved, from Vennels down, have been shown to be incompetent. (Misleading the Courts could be one I suppose).
As an investigator, faced with a sudden rash of sub-postmasters ALL trying to steal money from the Post Office, I would not be looking at individuals per se. As cases multiplied, my efforts would be focused on searching for a common denominator, the thing that made all these previously good people turn to crime, evidence of a plan, communications between people.....or something which was present in all these cases, which was (drum roll): the new software!!
Listening to the posties at interview may have confirmed the cause of this fiasco early on and avoided the unnecessary persecution of all the posties.
I mean, did they really think a large number of posties, from all over the country, most of whom had never even met, suddenly had the idea of doing a bit of fraud - all at the same time?! Seriously?!
Paula Vennels must be shitting bricks right now - she can see the prison bars looming . . .
@@stephenphillips4984They all knew that they were lying to subpostmasters about them being the only one, and they all knew that the people they were prosecuting were all entirely innocent
@@stephenphillips4984 The Post Office knew that the software was faulty.
He was an investigator but had nothing to do with anything that went wrong. Was he either grossly incompetent, brainless questioning nothing, negligent or may be lying under oath? An utter disgrace
All of the above?
Worst thing about it is that he's still an investigator.
He was just there for the paycheck
He admits to being the Investigations Manager in charge of the whole Investigation, admits he was present at an interview but sits his subordinate, a female investigator, was totally responsible for the collection of evidence and submission of the case-papers to the Prosecutions Unit. So, either he failed to exercise proper supervision, including checking the record of the interview and assessment of the evidence, or he was determined to get prosecutions irrespective of the evidence. Whichever it was, he is clearly not telling the truth!
An "expert witness" who neither saw nor heard anything, knows nothing of computers or programming and doesn't follow the news...
How is Stephen Bradshaw not in prison without the chance of Parole?
No interviewer would enter an interview without being briefed and would not just accept things if they weren’t fully briefed and this just proves he’s the ‘Bully element’ of pleasing his bosses!
totally agree and this bullies are in many big companies and corporations
I get the feeling his warped investigator mindset is that everyone are guilty. I've yet to hear where he's given the benefit of doubt to anyone...
I cant imagine his life will be particularly nice when he gets back home. What a horrible man.
Hopefully he will be going through what he put the postmaster’s through and hopefully going to prison,he was supposed to be an investigator,why didn’t anyone get the transaction journal to scrutinize,because it would show the system was flawed.
He will get a generous pension, play bridge with his friends at the weekend and play with his train set, even his family will believe he has been unfairly wronged.. Justice like you suppose only happens in the movies.
This image you have of him is exactly what was on the job description.
Now all his neighbours and relatives know the real type of person he is . They can all make up their own minds how to treat him.
I reckon this guy will be shunned by his local community now his face is out there. Deserves everything he gets and I’m sure there’s a lot coming the way of the scoundrels in this scandal.
He still works for the post office what a bloody disgraceful operation they are ..they all need to held accountable it’s sickening
I feel sorry for his wife 😵💫
I will be bitterly disappointed if this man does not eventually go to jail !
Having come across Bradshaw on more than one occasion, I can categorically state that he is lying under oath.
How so?
Even without knowing the person, it's patently clear he's lying. Either that, or they may as well have slapped the job title of 'Investigator' on the bloody tea boy.
He was certainly squirming in his seat, he didn't like it when the shoe was on the other foot.
@@cmgill2gill135if you have intellegence and integrity you would not have had to ask that question
I am amazed at how long he managed to keep it up, it was only a matter of time before he would have switched to the ubiquitous " No comment" response. To think these people were allowed to terrorise innocent hardworking people !!! I trust this enquiry will be executed diligently and justice to be applied so that he and those responsible in this awful miscarriage of justice be made accountable for their actions. I can't imagine the unrelenting misery those people must have gone through being interviewed by someone like that given his performance being cross-examined at this hearing. No conscience whatsoever. " Karma" eh?🤞
He knew exactly what he was doing, make me sick that he is still employed
Im embarrassed to be a scouser listening to his broken record of i had nothing to do with the enquiry
Prison sentences are required ASAP. Put these clowns in a court of law and lets see if they are prepared to commit perjury.
As a prosecutor he'd be the first one I'd go after with any criminal charges I could.
Guaranteed he'd easily break on the stand in a criminal trial and sing like a canary.
Chucking Miss Diane Matthews under a bus. What an appalling man.
He should be sent to prison
@@chrimbus71 With Starmer and Sunak and Boris and Truss, and Cameron.
As a prosecutor he'd be the first one I'd go after with any criminal charges I could.
Guaranteed he'd easily break on the stand in a criminal trial and sing like a canary.
I shake my head in disbelief at the state of this country!
Managed decline. Go read Chapter 9 ( Load Control) on the quietly passed Energy Act 2023 if you want to see how bad things are becoming.
Sadly , I don't anymore, just look at the messages that were suddenly lost on phones in the party gate inquiry
Me too.
This is least of it! HMRC should be investigated as well!
The expression of the guy sitting behind the lawyer says it all.
This man should be behind bars !!!
Bradshaw does not give the impression of being the sharpest knife in the drawer. As a supposed investigator he appears to know bugger all about anything. Why was he not asked what day of the week it was, his answer might have ben surprising. How did he get a job as an investigator, I would not have employed him to open the door for witnesses entering his office.
These are the type of people that are promoted to these positions from jobs within the post office such as doorman to cleaners etc and this is the result and there are lots more like t
him still in place.
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I bet senior Post Office management proudly referred to him as ''Our Scouse Rottweiler'' who always got the job done....irrespective of innocent folks being wrongly convicted ........
Bradshaw has worked for the Post Office since 1978 (45 years !). Probably the only employer he has ever worked for since leaving school. A time-server who gradually climbed the greasy pole proving the "Peter Principle" that he was promoted over the years until he reached his level of incompetence ! 😂😂
He might be7 thick but hes a sociopath who loved the powere his job gave him.i could imagine him being a right vindictive and odious petson
Give him a break, he not technically minded.
He needs to go to prison for perjury and perverting the course of justice.
What about when the accused pleaded guilty, He must have thought He made the correct decision ? The accused signed Their Statements !
@@chrislambert9435 are you stupid
I watched everything today on TV - This guy did everything not to answer the questions put to him with any honesty, he's like a Teflon pan
Well done...it did seem to make for painful & frustrating viewing....
Surely there must be tapes of his interviews ??????
I sincerely hope that those affected by his crimes will live to see justice served on him.
He can't even apologise. Extraordinary. Remember these people.
Well said
As an investigator for a major national company for nearly 20 years, I can't take this man seriously. His claim that he had nothing to do with the investigation, in my opinion, is absolute nonsense. Over the years, I have assisted other investigators in their interviews & never once went into an interview without reviewing the evidence myself & discussing it with the other investigator, before conducting that interview. He seems to be trying to say that he never reviewed the evidence, if that's the case, how could he possibly conduct that interview and question the person accused of misconduct. I'm surprised the KC didn't explore that line of thought.
It feels to me like Mr Bradshaw's only line of defence which is: "As I've already said..." (Which is very passive aggressive) is having the desired effect on the KC, causing him to back off... 😶
They will. He is fuced. The government is about to hand over millions of pounds. One thing you do not do, is fuc the government out of their slush fund that they had big plans for...................
@@c.marmion8430 I think the KC is not so much backing off as allowing Mr Bradshaw to hoist himself on his own petard. It is made quite obvious that Bradshaw is lying.
Their investigators were generally recruited internally and went on a three week residential training course at a Post Office training facility. I did investigations that could go to prosecution, I trained for four years to get qualified, including some courses with the Police relating to pace and CJA, only when I passed my qualifications was I fully allowed to act independently, I generally aimed to do 10 hour’s training a year.
@@mehitabel6564You could be right about that. Time will tell...
The more that's unravelled from this affair, the worse and worse it gets. It's absolutely incredible that this guy was given any responsibility for anything, let alone as being an investigator.
Yeah trying to make himself sound as if he can't tie his own shoes but they allowed him to do as he pleased . They all trying to minimise their part in this .
Edward Henry and Jason Beer deserve medals for their tenacity and patience.
I have been a retired barrister for many years, but I've never been prouder of the Bar. The professionalism and exemplary conduct of the silks is to be applauded.
Not me, not me ... everyone else at fault . not me, not me ... He is an investigator, but knows nothing.
They ought to find a case which He did decide upon ! but as usual these MP enquiries lack rightly positioned questions
It's a little Manuelesque....."I know nothing, Mrs Faulty"
What an apalling life form Bradshaw cones across as. He's evidently less honourable than a mafia gangster.
This whole drawn out scandal reflects so badly on senior leadership at the P.O.
They need to be imprisoned for the harm they've caused.
What about when the accused pleaded guilty, He must have thought He made the correct decision ? The accused signed Their Statements !
@@chrislambert9435 It's pretty obvious that innocent people were being threatened to agree to things they did not do to suffer a lesser penalty. This is horrific abuse on a grand scale.
One of his ‘victims’ has already said publicly that Bradshaw is a liar. I watched him being questioned this morning and decided she was right. Now watching this I can say that he looks like a nasty piece of work who didn’t care about his victims. He needs to go to prison and get a taste of what he’s done to others.
What about when the accused pleaded guilty, He must have thought He made the correct decision ? The accused signed Their Statements !
@@chrislambert9435 Have you any appreciation of what it must have been like to have been interviewed by this man? Did you hear the transcripts of his PACE interviews being read out to him? I can quite understand how some of these victims entered guilty pleas despite their innocence.
@@chrislambert9435You keep pasting this reply in various comments here. Are you a bot or a genuine bootlicker?
@@srp01983 When they plead Guilty, were they Lying ?
@@chrislambert9435 Have you heard of the word coercion? Have you watched the testimony of Stephen Bradshaw? Try looking it up on RUclips, particularly the afternoon session of the 11th January. Have you actually got a brain or are you just trying to make out you are completely stupid?
Gives the appearance of a bully. No morals. Well done Mr Henry K C,.
I heard years ago, before the Horizon scandal, that Post Office staff were absolutely terrified of the Post Office Investigation Branch. Seeing 'men' of the calibre of Bradshaw, I can see why.
No matter how much Bradshaw denies knowledge the evidence against him is overwhelming.
Someone needs to be held accountable and it looks like it’s him.
@@s.j.bluewater908 Just so long as he's not used as a scapegoat to shield others, like the investigation branch management and POCL senior management.
You can just imagine that horrible man laying into that poor girl. I hope he gets what's coming to him. I'm sure he'll be very popular in prison....
As a prosecutor he'd be the first one I'd go after with any criminal charges I could.
Guaranteed he'd easily break on the stand in a criminal trial and sing like a canary.
The Post office is infected will so many low-quality individuals who were promoted way beyond their capabilities and given extraordinary power and control.
He signed a witness statement knowing the content to be false. Perverting the course of justice. Jail him.
Let’s find out who told him to sign a false statement and jail them aswell.
Have we got enough jails !
@@markroberts1858 He didn´t sign if he have a Backbone
he knew that the statement he signed was false and he signed it.
@@markroberts1858General Counsel of Post Office signed off the statements
I always believed that signing a statement written by someone else was an offence against the court. It has to be YOUR statement in your words
That itself is not an offence , however because he has signed it he is agreeing with the contents of the statement. In simple terms a prepared statement is a document that is prepared during consultation between a suspect and their legal adviser with a view to using it during or after an investigative interview. Or in other words "He signed it , He owns it".
@@jamielee9350I cannot believe I didn't write it is a defence. I don't write my contracts either, but they are valid in law. In fact I don't write 99.9999 percent of what I sign.
This is the attitude of people all the way up the post office management and accountability chain.
Arrogant liars
What about when the accused pleaded guilty, He must have thought He made the correct decision ? The accused signed Their Statements !
This man is almost too horrible to listen to.He is just ignorant.
Straight out of Central casting for a Dickens novel.
Part of the problem is the ability of the Post Office to bring private criminal prosecutions. So many things wrong with that.
I can't think of one good reason why any organisation should have that kind of power, in a modern society.
@@GlasPthalocyanine It was a hang over from the days of being under the Crown, not even the police could enter without permission in those days, every Royal Mail site had blacked out windows overlooking working areas where the IB (investigation branch) could watch, there favorite trick was to leave out some money etc and see who touched it. and if they called you in about something that had gone missing (on their word) and you got tricked / pressured into saying "well you can search my house if you like" they bloody well would and rip up floors doing so with no recompence or legal redress. also can say that the post office counters centers that handled cash to the sub postmasters did not trust postmasters in the slightest and this was before horizon
I am not an expert but thought that anyone with enough money can bring private criminal prosecutions and guess that "prosecution authority" is just a new couple of words I don't understand. So I might be wrong. Interested to know if I am wrong
He “was there on the day” but didn’t have any thing to do with any of it. What a snake of a man. I really pray that all these sub postmasters/mistresses get the justice they deserve even though people are lying through their teeth to try and wriggle out of any blame for this. The more we hear the more disgusting we find the treatment of these people.
What a nasty guy! He nods when he lies whilst saying no!
Something interrogators look out for.
What a horrid apology for a man! ‘It’s nothin to do with me guv!’
‘ I was only following orders’
‘she did it, not me’
‘I was present but not actually there’
The SS defence
'I was only following orders' didn't work at Nuremberg either!
My thoughts exactly.
Me too
Vile human being … justice needs to be done.
The man is a disgrace. He should be dismissed from the service, how dare he pretend to serve the Crown. He lied, he blackmailed, he coersed and he controlled. All of these are criminal offences, why aren't the Police seeing to this?
One very simple question that could have been asked is "If you didn't have anything to do with the pre/post-investigation work, and you had no management control of its processes, what exactly were you doing at that interview/what was your role?"
BULLSEYE !!!!!
You need to contact the enquiry with this.
EXACTLY!
Bad cop …
Just by his tone and body language you can tell he is a bully and he'll never admit to anything... not my circus not my monkeys. In fact they all blame someone else, not me guv, I was just following orders. They need to face a court for false arrest and theft of all the money they stole from sub post masters. They are absolutely infuriating the way they are handling thus inquiry.
“Not me not me” This man is a disgrace
A lying thug. His demeanour shows his a very unpleasant man. Prison time for the bully.
In his questioning, he admitted signing a section 9 statement (used as evidence in Court) saying tgst the Horizon system was robust and worked well, even though at the time that he signed that, he knew, or had reason to believe that this was untrue. That's perjury! Why is he not being charged? He says that he didn't write the statement, although he read it, and he was told to sign it, so he did. "Just following orders" is a line that didn't work too well at Nuremberg! Why is the post office still employing this man knowing that he perjured himself? Why is he not in prison?? Do the post office still expect us to trust them when this man is still in post?!
Because they paid him to lie
He is the guy the Post Office needed
What about when the accused pleaded guilty, He must have thought He made the correct decision ? The accused signed Their Statements !
Bradshaw signed the statement as his. A section 9 statement would have been signed twice, after the declaration (the oath) and at the end. If it was tendered in evidence and he gave evidence on oath in court knowing that it was untrue then there’s no argument, it’s perjury.
How could this man agree to the statement that the horizon system was robust and worked well and yet claim in his interviews at the enquiry here, that he was not an expert on the computer system and that was the field of other people higher than him.
By his own admission, he is not qualified to judge that it was robust and worked well.
Claiming ignorance of how the system worked at this enquiry jeopardises his statement that it was robust and worked well. Surely this borders on falsehood.
The arrogance of this man and his total lack of remorse is highly offensive.
Comes across as a psychopath
Send every one of them to prison. Each and every last one who played any role in this clear and obvious set up.
Shocking.
A reliable stooge ready to ignore torture and injustice
Spot on….
Stephen "It wasn't Me Guv'" Bradshaw is a perfect example of what happens when people of low intelligence (but not cunning) are given unaccountable power and authority. Somewhere there must be a paper trail as to how his investigations proceeded, with the individuals who interacted and commented on the process clearly identified. Surely from this it could be established as to how the prosecutions in question led to the crime of "perverting the course of justice". Find the guilty parties, give them a trial and jail them.
‘Vee vere only obeying ze orders of our dear leader und her henchvimmen und menschen! ‘ lol
Agree. Whether he was aware of the serious nature of what he was doing or not, his bosses should be getting grilled right now. A lot of workers are required to do as their boss tells them, no questions asked. Where are the bosses?
He strikes me very much like the Gauleiters , lower level functionaries employed by the GESTAPO during WW2. Low intellect peasants willing to do what they are told without questioning orders. I'll bet he voted BREXIT and votes UKIP !!
It’s about time all government’s companies/organisations should be under scrutiny and inspected,as we can see the people in charge seem to lack the moral fibres to do the jobs,all made possible by an equally corrupt government!
Turns out he was only there to hold the coats. These people have no remorse for their shameful behaviours.
So he believed that hundreds of postmasters across the entire country conveniently started pilfering huge sums of money straight after a new accounting system was introduced? Pfft!
That's the crux of the whole mess-up - rather than join the dots, paula venables - the one ultimately responsible - actioned a strategy of denial that the software was faulty.
This is the most stunning fact that I find difficult to understand, apparently, each individual being questioned were not aware hundreds were being accused, and NOT ONE sane person within the Post Office paused for thought that something was not quite right and looked for other reasons.
He would do that hes as thick as pigsshit.tells himself lies and believes them thats what neurotic people do.hows he going to he honest with anyone else if he lies to himself.
If no money WERE pilfered (as seems to have been the case) then how did the true receipts 'disappear' in the Post Office accounts ? How could the system lose (for good) true income that was mistakenly 'lost' by the automated accounting-process ?
The Privatised Post Office should pay each victim of Horizon several million in compensation.
NO PROFITS AND NO SHAREHOLDERS DIVIDENDS until that has been done.
But no, the tax-payers will foot the bill, as per usual 🤨
The post office isn’t privatised. The government own it.
The post office is owned by the government there are no shareholders, except for tax payers who paid this asshole and all the lawyers that represented the PO
Fujitsu should also be made to pay - they're liable too and can well afford it!
Get your facts right. The PO is owned by the government. The Royal Mail is completely separate and is not involved here.
Ok, I get it, it was everybody else's fault, Bradshaw is totally blameless, anything that happened was down to somebody else. I suspect he is a very big part of the problem.
What about when the accused pleaded guilty, He must have thought He made the correct decision ? The accused signed Their Statements !
He is guilty as hell as being the main '' Gestapo ' interrogator, and should be given time behind bars
@@chrislambert9435 Give it a rest Chris, we've got your message!
A truly shameless lack of introspection, accountability or honesty from a man that needs to be in prison.
Bradshaw could leave a room without having to bother to open the door. He slithers out like a puff of smoke or a worm. How much money was he being paid for being so busy every working day doing nothing at all. Seems there were a considerable number of people at the Post Office with his attitude.
There are a number of people like Him working in Government departments
What about when the accused pleaded guilty, He must have thought He made the correct decision ? The accused signed Their Statements !
@@chrislambert9435(You surely mean "ANY" number of people like him (?))
The lies commenced as soon as he opened his mouth!
What about when the accused pleaded guilty, He must have thought He made the correct decision ? The accused signed Their Statements !
@@chrislambert9435Some signed because they were trying to avoid a jail sentence.
@@bhgp1976 So the accused lied, when they plead guilty, did they ?
@@chrislambert9435 People will lie to avoid jail. If you want to see a liar in action, watch the weasel being questioned.
What a weasel
They’ll be a lot of people that know him personally, who will be enjoying his predicament very much.
Just terrifying to imagine the torment he put those poor people through. The fact he had a long succesful career in the post office speaks volumes.
What about when the accused pleaded guilty, He must have thought He made the correct decision ? The accused signed Their Statements !
Get the ball rolling...charge him and get him on front of a jury......of his peers ,let REAL JUSTICE BE SERVED
I would fire him first, you realise he is still a security investigator for the PO ,how is this possible, reminds me of Hillsborough and other scandals. He is a weasel...
@@johncahalane7327the PO won’t fire him, he knows where all the bodies are , because he buried them
As a prosecutor he'd be the first one I'd go after with any criminal charges I could.
Guaranteed he'd easily break on the stand in a criminal trial and sing like a canary.
Vennels will be delighted if the blame falls at and stays at Bradshaws level. They are only questioning the camp guards at this stage...
Remember the Abu Ghraib inquiry? Camp guards like Lyndee England served a couple of years in jail and became a hero when she returned to her trailer park. The commandant was just demoted, from Brigadier General to Colonel.
@brianlopez8855
It beggars belief that Paula Vennels is religious. It is staggering to me how a person can have a split-personality like this.
Again: he's the perfect "fall guy" from central casting.
The guy behind the lawyer can’t take his eyes off this creep
How can you be trusted to prosecute people over issues that come out of an IT system you openly admit you don't understand.
It beggars belief.
He blames everyone but himself.
What a lier he is , needs to be taken to court.
And he needs to go to jail.
The Charge being? Oh and it’s Liar.
The thuggish face of unaccountable power... His performance tells us all we need to know about the business model of the PO..
bet his family are proud of him
What about when the accused pleaded guilty, He must have thought He made the correct decision ? The accused signed Their Statements !
@@chrislambert9435 A pathetic point. He bullied and pressurised terrified people with threats of worse consequences if they didn’t sign. That’s why their convictions will be set aside.
This man is a total disgrace. He should be in prison. He blames everyone but himself.