okay it was a mess but the flyaway was soooo pretty omg. also like ik the commentators know gymnastics so they know she's tired but whOA they got that so spot on
Yeah, to my untrained eyes, I don't see how she can be tired, nor can I predict that she won't do a dismount. It's amazing to me that commentators can tell this stuff, and even predict the flyaway like you said, but that's why they're the pros haha. Also, I would LOVE to be able to even do the flyaway!
Her routine composition was a big problem in her comeback. She didn't adapt her routine to this code at all and still was doing her very long 2008 routine, which even if she hit everything only had a D-score of 6.5. She wasn't in shape for a super long routine like she used to do. Most other athletes adapted and focused more on connections, whereas Nastia still couldn't figure out transitions from high bar to low bar that were necessary in this code like Mustafina or Komova did.
Nastia got back into training and competing WAY too late like what were her and Valeri thinking she had like no time to train this bar routine. If she had just had the fire to get back into training sooner I think she might have made the team.
Didn't matter. She just couldn't compete with any of the medalists. She at her best of 2008 couldn't compete with them either. Especially that the bronze medal was saved for the British girl.
i kind of agree, though i don't really know how early she started training for this. just comparing her to chellsie memmel now, it seems nastia didn't really have the strength or endurance at the time to be competing with everyone else.
If she’d started training a year earlier, I think she’d have made it and she would have gotten another medal in the all around. Still, her gymnastics is some of the most beautiful gymnastics to ever exist, and I could watch her for hours.
@@scottb3423to be fair, she would’ve taken kyla’s spot if she has trained earlier, her beam was already scoring in the 15s and her potential bar composition was Inbar half + Healy + ling + Healy half + geinger- .7 Inbar + pak Double front half DEEEDDDD - 3.5 + 2.5 + .7 = 6.7 and she would’ve mostly gotten an execution in the high 8s so scoring 15.5 Could’ve easily snuck into top 5 for AA + Top 3 on both beam plus bars
Anna Pavfan she said in her book she was nursing a bad shoulder from all her years in gymnastics. She had surgery after this competition. Sadly I’ll bet this is common at this level; they have high pain tolerance because they games are only every 4 years
@@chooseyourpoison5105 you'll, rarely, meet a gymnast who isn't struggling with injuries. on top of that, this was her comeback. i'm very sure her and her coaches weighed the pros and cons before returning to training, and i'm very sure they didn't think her shoulder was a big enough deal if they let her continue. this was about stamina and strength.
This was not her dismount*. She opted out of her usual dismount because she got overworked correcting the errors in her routine. They literally say this on commentary and make it crystal clear. Not sure how you missed that. Some people seem to want to be catty and hateful I guess.🤷
Elfi: I wouldn't be surprised if she does not do a dismount Tim: No, she's not gonna... she's gonna just do a layout somersault... she'll not even just do a layout flyaway
Memmel tried to qualify to Visa Nationals via the Classic. They denied her petition, so she retired. I'm sure if they had accepted her, she would have competed.
Just because you are Nastia Liukin a gold medal gymnast , don't expect to be in shape for the next summer olympics 4 years later with only a few months of practice and training. When I compare her in '08 to '12, I see big differences; her sharpness was almost non-existent, she couldn't concentrate, she was not at all sharp and especially in shape and looked very fatigued. In Beijing she was fabulous, sharp and alert as an owl or a hawk, full of energy and spirit, and fresh and radiant.
After reading the book she had a shoulder injury (from overuse) that was bothering her and she needed surgery for. Probably why she couldn't start training earlier.
Dude. She prepped for those olympics for that entire quad. Little bit of an over kill and she didnt get back in to it because of ashoulder injury that she actually took care of not to mention was four years older than her eighteen year old self. She was fit, just didnt have the stamina to make a mistake which happens.
@@Elong. She could’ve easily dealt with the shoulder injury RIGHT AFTER Beijing... She had 2008-2011 to get surgery, do rehab, therapy, and prepare for the next Olympics... But she did NOT! She just was NOT as prepared and focused... NO excuses needed!
It was kind of cocky that she just showed up with a few months of practice and expected to just compete because she was great four years earlier. Surely she would have realised the week before that she wasn't up to it and reconsidered. Any other gymnast would not have been let into trials. I mean I know Ponor came back but she practiced 18 months before.
MsJubjubbird she couldn’t train as hard because of a shoulder injury. She was doing less reps to try to work thru it because the doctors told her if she could bear it she could wait on surgery. She had surgery right after this competition.
definitely can tell how exhausting the routine was for her. i believe nastia still could've had a chance for the olympic team if only she had started training earlier
You know, I feel like she came back with an inefficient routine in mind. I was even thinking about this back then: what she should've been training was inbar stalders; inbar stalder 1/2 in place of the stalder 1/2 and inbar stalder in place of the tkatchev. That would have been a 6.7 D score instead of 6.5 and she may have had the endurance to make the dismount, as i feel the inbar is a lot less taxing on endurance than a tkatchev.
Whenever I would watch stuck landing compilations or things of that matter, I would always see this layout dismount and I would always be confused as to why she did the layout... now I know
I feel bad for Nastia. Everyone is comparing her now to what she used to be in Beijing. You have to understand that after taking a 3 year break, she will never be the all around olympic champion that she was, but she's a fighter! I give her so much credit for getting back on the podium and throwing a lot of the skills that she competed in Beijing. It's sickening to hear people saying that she sucks now because she most definitely does not....
Shawn wasn't really in training until after her injury though-- hurting her knee is what got her back in the gym, because she got scared about "what if" she couldn't do gymnastics anymore. The repercussions of the injury are what led to her retirement.
Yes, only 2 event specialist. I am a huge Nastia fan, but I am now doubting whether she can make it to the very end... She should have been training much longer time (like right after Worlds 2011) before attempting this comeback. But no matter what, I will always support her :) I really really hope she can qualify to Olympic Trials at least.
Some people in other videos have made negative comments about this girl. I've followed her for 7 years now and I know that when she puts her mind to something, she can achieve it. These next three weeks leading up to trials consist of a lot of conditioning to gain the stamina to complete her bar routine with a D level dismount. She was inconsistent and not ready at these championships and it did show, but to be fair, she's not had a lot of time and she's come so far so quickly, keep pushing! xxx
she could've just done something like: endo 1/2 + geinger. ling 1/2 + tkachev. swing 1/2 + giant 1/2 + fwd giant 1/1+ pak. cast 1/2 + ray. then some sort of d dismount. I know its a low d score but she shouldn't have done her Beijing routines.
Layout somersault would be forward spinning (like her dismount in Beijing, a forward spinning double somersault, 1/2 twist) and a flyaway is backward spinning, like she did here.
Good God! Can any of the people on this thread criticizing this gymnast do even ONE of these insanely hard tricks? I for one can barely do a cartwheel! She is working hard to come back to form -- it is not easy! Give her a break
I just hope this isn't Simone in 2020. I don't think my heart could bear it. I would die. Thx goodness she's learned from her predecessors and gotten her ass back in the gym early o' clock. But poor Nastia though. They should have known better.
Young Contrarian the difference is that Simone is giving herself time to train and get back to what she was used to. And obviously look at her now, she won the 2018 AA gold plus a bunch of other golds at Worlds with only a year of training. Can’t wait to see what she’s like in 2020 😂
How can't people understand that it's very difficult to competition on uneven bars on first time since 3 years! I love nastia and I hope best for her! she will do much better uneven bars routine at trials... (hope so).
Just because she was Olympic champion doesn't mean the Gymnastics Gods were going to give her an edge over the other young gymnasts who were training to make their Olympic dreams come true. Disappointing that she decided to make her comeback that late, smh...
Throughout her routine, I can tell she's tired, even I'm getting tired watching her, poor girl.. Normally gymnasts make the UB look so easy, but this routine made me really tensee.. Hope she improvess!
I know I was shocked too, this was really hard to watch. but from all the things she did in this routine, she was probably too tired and that dismount was a smart move. But hey she did get invited to the olympic trials :)
I don't know about Elite, but in JO you don't get a deduction (as long as the the gymnast's legs are straddled and not only just split slightly). I do this on bars. The technique is used by some taller gymnasts to shorten their body length in order to tap past the low bar, so that they don't kick the low bar and so they can avoid diminishing their swing by piking their bodies by the low bar during giants.
To everyone saying she had a “shoulder injury” she was nursing... Uhmmm... She could’ve easily dealt with the that shoulder injury RIGHT AFTER Beijing... She had 2008-2011 to get surgery, do rehab, therapy, and prepare for the next Olympics... But she did NOT! She simply was NOT as prepared and focused... STOP making excuses!
Because she has sooo much experience...she will not choke ......the judges know her.......she will be in shape by the Olympics....look how quickly she got herself in shape for Visa Championships.....they need her bars...
She came back way too late. Even if she had an injury her endurance took such a hit. If she had started training earlier it would have made her life so much easier.
She said in her book she had a shoulder that needed injury. She ended up having surgery after this competition. I remember Ivana Hong had a serious injury when she was picked as alternate. A lot of these girls are banged up from overuse by the time they get to the Olympics.
Because of the mistakes and the cover ups she did, i think even before the dismount, she was already really tired and she already knew that she was going to get a really low score so instead of doing her real dismount which she was most probably going to mess up as well, she did a flyaway dismount to avoid injury :) i think it was a good and practical choice too. thats what i think, but considering she had only rehearsed this routine for a week and a half,i think she was pretty amazing as well.
That's like not liking a score and assuming asking the Judges to go do it. Or saying you don't like a movie, and someone telling you to direct a film. You don't have be able to do something to be able to have an eye for it. And Nastia made it very easy to have a critical eye.
She did do a bit better than night one. 3 more weeks and Nastia could get her mojo back on bars. I'm amazed with what she CAN do on bars and she's not even in top condition! GO NASTIA! on to Trials! ♥
Memo to Gabby, Aly, and Jordyn: Don't wait until the 2015 Worlds to decide whether or not you want to go for Rio. I give Nastia credit for attempting this comeback, but I wish she had started training much earlier than she did.
Score: 13.650! Remember in Beijing she scored the highest score in Olympics, a 16.9 I hope she will cost out the time till London. I think she will do well ;)
She actually got her dismount back if you take a look at the podium training videoes but she doesn't have enough energy to handle the entire routine right now. I hope she can do some fitness practice in the following three weeks and increase her difficulty of bars to boost her chance of making the olympics since she s competing with Ross for the spot actually but she has only 2 events but Ross gets 3. Nastia needs the best difficulty and execution on bars to outweigh her.
It’s a shame that she didn’t get back to training sooner!!! After Beijing and coming home with that gold medal she travelled nonstop and had tons of projects going on!!! You have to give it to the girl though, that takes guts to get out there, knowing you are competing against younger, fitter young ladies. Can we all just agree that even though her comeback didn’t go as planned, that it’s exciting to have her be a commentator instead of Elfie🙄 she was soooo annoying.
she is getting this chance because the US needs people who can withstand extreme pressure and have had much experience. That is why they are giving her another chance because the only really strong bar workers we have is really only gabby douglas who hasn't had that much experience in big championships yet
She will definitely improve at Trials. And no, she is not "embarrassing herself". She was smart not to do a dismount, she would have needlessly injured herself. She is doing this so she won't be asking herself 'what if?'. She'll do her best at Trials, and will graciously accept whatever Marta decides.
That's a little harsh but you are so right. She should have started her comeback training a lot sooner like Alicia Sacramone or Shawn Johnson (too bad her knee injury came back to stop her comeback), then maybe Nastia would have a chance. Nastia is only going to the Trials because of her past achievements. I am going to try to believe in her.
It is very difficult in the world of gymnastics to make a comeback once you have been off for a while. While I do not think it is impossible it will be very difficult I do feel that she should have given her self more time to prepare. But the Trials will tell the tale of the tape. I do hope she does well but it will be very difficult.
wow, i never thought i would be so disappointed! She is great and it seems like she can do a hard routine, she did it in training, but she is failing by the pressure or what?
I honestly have to say it and if you don't like it, piss on you, but it's the truth; Nastia was way too competative and greedy 4 years later. If I was her at this point, I would've just retired gracefully because I already won so much gold in Beijing. Come on honey, you already had your glory; let's pass it on gracefully and humbly to someone else who has yet to live it.
She had a different dismount planned but messed up her routine so she had to switch to that to save energy. And I'd hope that her dad wouldn't have sent her out there in that condition unless she had been doing at least relatively well in practice
Slow down deary. Its not about glory. At the end of the day these girls are athletes. They love their sport and their sport are their entire life. Its not easy to get the gold and then walk away like that. She made the mistake of not being ready which happens, but do not call her greedy.
thats obviously not her normal dismount. she had a lot of problems executing her routine right and felt pretty off and tired. trying to do her dismount, which is a pretty difficult one, wouldnt have been worth the risk at that point.
Here is why putting Nastia on a team is a terrible idea. Using the ideal team of Mckayla, Jordyn, Gabby, Aly and Kyla and their highest scores from visas, the total team score is 186.2 Replacing Kyla with Nastia and using her highest scores gives 184.35 Giving her more generous scores of 14.4 bars and 14.7 beam gives 184.7 Being REALLY generous and giving her a 15 on bars and beam which she CANNOT get gives....185.6 And that is why anybody with sense wants her to retire.
Boy, I'm not going to mention her dismount, or her being tired, but she seems to lose her focus or something during her routines, because she keeps faltering. That's a big issue here. Not counting the major form breaks, that one part where she was doing something out of order, her dad was looking at her like "I'm suppose to spot her and I don't know what she's going to do next" lol. Priceless.
I didn't get why everyone making excuses for Nastia, if she want to be on the Olympic team she should have been ready and she better bring her A game at trials cuz there will be a major uproar if Martha still let her go
Did you not watch the video? Obviously she was too tired to do a real dismount. She still doesn't have the stamina to do a whole routine let alone try and pull through one where she exerted more energy than she had to. You make it sound like she isn't even trying.
She wasn't ready, it's a shame she didn't starting training a few months sooner.
Sean Radagast she had a shoulder injury.
"She's a little bit confused.. maybe she wasn't confused"
A true highlight of Tim's commentary.... lmfao
Tim’s the worst.
Classic Tim
@@mst3kanita What's wrong with him? I see so many people hate on him, why?
@Bradley Peloquin He is not that critical... he just messes up a lot while commentating so people think he shouldn't be a commentator
okay it was a mess but the flyaway was soooo pretty omg. also like ik the commentators know gymnastics so they know she's tired but whOA they got that so spot on
She could have stuck a turn in that flyaway..really??
@@dianelawrence2910 I think she was just kind of pissy at that point because it was a bad routine and she didn't care about the score
i mean, it's either that or a tuck. she seems super tired by the end of it. i don't think more would have been safe.
Yeah, to my untrained eyes, I don't see how she can be tired, nor can I predict that she won't do a dismount. It's amazing to me that commentators can tell this stuff, and even predict the flyaway like you said, but that's why they're the pros haha.
Also, I would LOVE to be able to even do the flyaway!
@@thegreenskittle they probably saw her doing it in the training
"That was not. That wasn't good." *video cut*
Her routine composition was a big problem in her comeback. She didn't adapt her routine to this code at all and still was doing her very long 2008 routine, which even if she hit everything only had a D-score of 6.5. She wasn't in shape for a super long routine like she used to do. Most other athletes adapted and focused more on connections, whereas Nastia still couldn't figure out transitions from high bar to low bar that were necessary in this code like Mustafina or Komova did.
She also went back into the gym way too late. You can’t do that in that sport.
Nastia got back into training and competing WAY too late like what were her and Valeri thinking she had like no time to train this bar routine. If she had just had the fire to get back into training sooner I think she might have made the team.
Nastia said in her book she had a shoulder injury that she had been dealing with. When she didn’t make the team she went ahead and had surgery on it.
Didn't matter. She just couldn't compete with any of the medalists. She at her best of 2008 couldn't compete with them either. Especially that the bronze medal was saved for the British girl.
i kind of agree, though i don't really know how early she started training for this. just comparing her to chellsie memmel now, it seems nastia didn't really have the strength or endurance at the time to be competing with everyone else.
@tony braxter Doesn't change the fact that Ross was able to compete with the medalists...
@@Elong. LIES
If she’d started training a year earlier, I think she’d have made it and she would have gotten another medal in the all around. Still, her gymnastics is some of the most beautiful gymnastics to ever exist, and I could watch her for hours.
idk the all around field was deep in 2012 and Nastia didn't have an amanar
@@scottb3423to be fair, she would’ve taken kyla’s spot if she has trained earlier, her beam was already scoring in the 15s and her potential bar composition was
Inbar half + Healy + ling + Healy half + geinger- .7
Inbar + pak
Double front half
DEEEDDDD - 3.5 + 2.5 + .7 = 6.7 and she would’ve mostly gotten an execution in the high 8s so scoring 15.5
Could’ve easily snuck into top 5 for AA + Top 3 on both beam plus bars
Now this is not the Nastia we are use to seeing. **Nastia voice** lmao
I feel like if she actually gave herself time to comeback... It would have been a successful comeback.
Anna Pavfan she said in her book she was nursing a bad shoulder from all her years in gymnastics. She had surgery after this competition. Sadly I’ll bet this is common at this level; they have high pain tolerance because they games are only every 4 years
Dude, it was nothing to do with not training, she was struggling with a shoulder injury here
@@chooseyourpoison5105 you'll, rarely, meet a gymnast who isn't struggling with injuries. on top of that, this was her comeback. i'm very sure her and her coaches weighed the pros and cons before returning to training, and i'm very sure they didn't think her shoulder was a big enough deal if they let her continue. this was about stamina and strength.
Chellsie Memmel is a prime example of how to do a comeback
@@kayedubb754you never know what was said or done. She could of downplayed her pain
Even her mistakes and breaks in form are artistic...Queen!!
Definitely not a bad attempt at a comeback - she looks amazing considering we haven't seen a competitive UB routine since the Olympics from Nastia.
I can’t say her routine was perfect, but I respect anyone who can do a kip.
amazing how chelsie memmel doesnt even make it to visas but they send someone with a level 7 dismout to trials
omg this
This was not her dismount*. She opted out of her usual dismount because she got overworked correcting the errors in her routine. They literally say this on commentary and make it crystal clear. Not sure how you missed that. Some people seem to want to be catty and hateful I guess.🤷
Thank you!
I mean, she was also the reigning Olympic all around champion....
@@JennaLeigh She literally had the similar (layout) dismount on the first day of the championships.
Elfi: I wouldn't be surprised if she does not do a dismount
Tim: No, she's not gonna... she's gonna just do a layout somersault... she'll not even just do a layout flyaway
I was so disoriented by Afanasyeva's 2011 floor music in the background lol
Memmel tried to qualify to Visa Nationals via the Classic. They denied her petition, so she retired. I'm sure if they had accepted her, she would have competed.
Just because you are Nastia Liukin a gold medal gymnast , don't expect to be in shape for the next summer olympics 4 years later with only a few months of practice and training. When I compare her in '08 to '12, I see big differences; her sharpness was almost non-existent, she couldn't concentrate, she was not at all sharp and especially in shape and looked very fatigued. In Beijing she was fabulous, sharp and alert as an owl or a hawk, full of energy and spirit, and fresh and radiant.
After reading the book she had a shoulder injury (from overuse) that was bothering her and she needed surgery for. Probably why she couldn't start training earlier.
Dude. She prepped for those olympics for that entire quad. Little bit of an over kill and she didnt get back in to it because of ashoulder injury that she actually took care of not to mention was four years older than her eighteen year old self. She was fit, just didnt have the stamina to make a mistake which happens.
@@Elong. She could’ve easily dealt with the shoulder injury RIGHT AFTER Beijing... She had 2008-2011 to get surgery, do rehab, therapy, and prepare for the next Olympics... But she did NOT! She just was NOT as prepared and focused... NO excuses needed!
It was kind of cocky that she just showed up with a few months of practice and expected to just compete because she was great four years earlier. Surely she would have realised the week before that she wasn't up to it and reconsidered. Any other gymnast would not have been let into trials. I mean I know Ponor came back but she practiced 18 months before.
MsJubjubbird she couldn’t train as hard because of a shoulder injury. She was doing less reps to try to work thru it because the doctors told her if she could bear it she could wait on surgery. She had surgery right after this competition.
definitely can tell how exhausting the routine was for her. i believe nastia still could've had a chance for the olympic team if only she had started training earlier
You know, I feel like she came back with an inefficient routine in mind. I was even thinking about this back then: what she should've been training was inbar stalders; inbar stalder 1/2 in place of the stalder 1/2 and inbar stalder in place of the tkatchev. That would have been a 6.7 D score instead of 6.5 and she may have had the endurance to make the dismount, as i feel the inbar is a lot less taxing on endurance than a tkatchev.
Almost insulting. She wasn't prepared and she showed like that.
Whenever I would watch stuck landing compilations or things of that matter, I would always see this layout dismount and I would always be confused as to why she did the layout... now I know
brO idk why i found it so funny when she said "she might not even do a dismoint" and tim's voice just sounded so weird "nO"
I feel bad for Nastia. Everyone is comparing her now to what she used to be in Beijing. You have to understand that after taking a 3 year break, she will never be the all around olympic champion that she was, but she's a fighter! I give her so much credit for getting back on the podium and throwing a lot of the skills that she competed in Beijing. It's sickening to hear people saying that she sucks now because she most definitely does not....
“That’s wasn’t good” you don’t say 🤔
I love Nastia!!
Why do I hear Ksenia Afanasyeva's floor music in the background? She wasn't at the Visas! haha, but whose music is it?
That was Elizabeth Price. She also used "Infiltrado" by Bajofondo.
She never lets her fans down? Well, she just did. Big time.
Shawn wasn't really in training until after her injury though-- hurting her knee is what got her back in the gym, because she got scared about "what if" she couldn't do gymnastics anymore. The repercussions of the injury are what led to her retirement.
I lover her bar performance 💕💕
Yes, only 2 event specialist. I am a huge Nastia fan, but I am now doubting whether she can make it to the very end... She should have been training much longer time (like right after Worlds 2011) before attempting this comeback. But no matter what, I will always support her :) I really really hope she can qualify to Olympic Trials at least.
I feel bad because the commentator didn’t have to say “ohhh that was that was not good” ok but at least she tried
It wasn’t good for her considering she is the all around 2008 Olympic champion
It is not the fact she does a flyaway, it is Elfi saying: "Yep. Smart."
Nastia is our best bar worker! give her time to work out and get back into that perfect shape... She never lets her fans down! :) GO NASTIA
Some people in other videos have made negative comments about this girl. I've followed her for 7 years now and I know that when she puts her mind to something, she can achieve it. These next three weeks leading up to trials consist of a lot of conditioning to gain the stamina to complete her bar routine with a D level dismount. She was inconsistent and not ready at these championships and it did show, but to be fair, she's not had a lot of time and she's come so far so quickly, keep pushing! xxx
NICE LAYOUT NASTIA!! :)
Glad to see that she's back!(:
she could've just done something like: endo 1/2 + geinger. ling 1/2 + tkachev. swing 1/2 + giant 1/2 + fwd giant 1/1+ pak. cast 1/2 + ray. then some sort of d dismount. I know its a low d score but she shouldn't have done her Beijing routines.
what is then difference between a layout somersault dismount and a layout flyaway?
Layout somersault would be forward spinning (like her dismount in Beijing, a forward spinning double somersault, 1/2 twist) and a flyaway is backward spinning, like she did here.
Ok but fr tho that was the most beutiful fly away I’ve ever seen
Good God! Can any of the people on this thread criticizing this gymnast do even ONE of these insanely hard tricks? I for one can barely do a cartwheel! She is working hard to come back to form -- it is not easy! Give her a break
I just hope this isn't Simone in 2020. I don't think my heart could bear it. I would die. Thx goodness she's learned from her predecessors and gotten her ass back in the gym early o' clock. But poor Nastia though. They should have known better.
Young Contrarian Just look at Simone now! Better than ever!
Young Contrarian the difference is that Simone is giving herself time to train and get back to what she was used to. And obviously look at her now, she won the 2018 AA gold plus a bunch of other golds at Worlds with only a year of training. Can’t wait to see what she’s like in 2020 😂
burst out laughing at this comment until i saw when it was posted
How can't people understand that it's very difficult to competition on uneven bars on first time since 3 years! I love nastia and I hope best for her! she will do much better uneven bars routine at trials... (hope so).
Just because she was Olympic champion doesn't mean the Gymnastics Gods were going to give her an edge over the other young gymnasts who were training to make their Olympic dreams come true. Disappointing that she decided to make her comeback that late, smh...
Throughout her routine, I can tell she's tired, even I'm getting tired watching her, poor girl.. Normally gymnasts make the UB look so easy, but this routine made me really tensee.. Hope she improvess!
I know I was shocked too, this was really hard to watch. but from all the things she did in this routine, she was probably too tired and that dismount was a smart move.
But hey she did get invited to the olympic trials :)
I don't know about Elite, but in JO you don't get a deduction (as long as the the gymnast's legs are straddled and not only just split slightly). I do this on bars. The technique is used by some taller gymnasts to shorten their body length in order to tap past the low bar, so that they don't kick the low bar and so they can avoid diminishing their swing by piking their bodies by the low bar during giants.
Still a beautiful performer!! What a lot of strength that takes!
Nastia and Lilia P had the best lines, sooo elegant.
To everyone saying she had a “shoulder injury” she was nursing... Uhmmm... She could’ve easily dealt with the that shoulder injury RIGHT AFTER Beijing... She had 2008-2011 to get surgery, do rehab, therapy, and prepare for the next Olympics... But she did NOT! She simply was NOT as prepared and focused... STOP making excuses!
Because she has sooo much experience...she will not choke ......the judges know her.......she will be in shape by the Olympics....look how quickly she got herself in shape for Visa Championships.....they need her bars...
What was wrong with her? I love nastia and I was sad seeing her struggle
Well, she took three years off and came back in 2012... so it was probably just hard on her body
LB7 was she injured?
Jason Du her shoulder
She came back way too late. Even if she had an injury her endurance took such a hit. If she had started training earlier it would have made her life so much easier.
She said in her book she had a shoulder that needed injury. She ended up having surgery after this competition. I remember Ivana Hong had a serious injury when she was picked as alternate. A lot of these girls are banged up from overuse by the time they get to the Olympics.
No, she competed at classics and tried to petition onto visas but the selection committee didn't let her... she was completely healthy
Memmel retired at the beginning of June. Too many shoulder injuries.
Now she’s unretired and training elite again!
Was Kenia Afanasyeva on floor? lol
+Vitor Hugo Santana Lol Afanasyeva is Russian, and this is US national championships. It would be very odd for her to be there :)
That was Elizabeth Price
Amazing job.
oh BOY ! and she has changed her routine !
Because of the mistakes and the cover ups she did, i think even before the dismount, she was already really tired and she already knew that she was going to get a really low score so instead of doing her real dismount which she was most probably going to mess up as well, she did a flyaway dismount to avoid injury :) i think it was a good and practical choice too. thats what i think, but considering she had only rehearsed this routine for a week and a half,i think she was pretty amazing as well.
she missed some handstands
Loving all these hate comments , get up there and do that!
That's like not liking a score and assuming asking the Judges to go do it. Or saying you don't like a movie, and someone telling you to direct a film. You don't have be able to do something to be able to have an eye for it. And Nastia made it very easy to have a critical eye.
I could say the same about Skinner but everyone would still hate her even though I love her.
My favorite dismount of the post-10 era.
She actually made the dismount really pretty... I kinda liked it :)
She did do a bit better than night one. 3 more weeks and Nastia could get her mojo back on bars. I'm amazed with what she CAN do on bars and she's not even in top condition!
GO NASTIA! on to Trials! ♥
Memo to Gabby, Aly, and Jordyn: Don't wait until the 2015 Worlds to decide whether or not you want to go for Rio.
I give Nastia credit for attempting this comeback, but I wish she had started training much earlier than she did.
She had a shoulder injury. She couldn’t really come back much sooner than she did
Score: 13.650! Remember in Beijing she scored the highest score in Olympics, a 16.9
I hope she will cost out the time till London. I think she will do well ;)
Does the judges know the routine that you are about to execute?
How many weeks until trials? I hope its a few weeks because she really needs the time!
Okay they did her dirty with the thumbnail
Really hope she improves enough for London! Is she only doing bars and beam now?
She actually got her dismount back if you take a look at the podium training videoes but she doesn't have enough energy to handle the entire routine right now. I hope she can do some fitness practice in the following three weeks and increase her difficulty of bars to boost her chance of making the olympics since she s competing with Ross for the spot actually but she has only 2 events but Ross gets 3. Nastia needs the best difficulty and execution on bars to outweigh her.
It’s a shame that she didn’t get back to training sooner!!! After Beijing and coming home with that gold medal she travelled nonstop and had tons of projects going on!!! You have to give it to the girl though, that takes guts to get out there, knowing you are competing against younger, fitter young ladies. Can we all just agree that even though her comeback didn’t go as planned, that it’s exciting to have her be a commentator instead of Elfie🙄 she was soooo annoying.
wait i have a question though.. why is she so tired ? she seems exhausted :/ is it just having to get back to the physical condition since 08' ?
she is getting this chance because the US needs people who can withstand extreme pressure and have had much experience. That is why they are giving her another chance because the only really strong bar workers we have is really only gabby douglas who hasn't had that much experience in big championships yet
does anyone know who's floor routine is playing in the background?
She will definitely improve at Trials. And no, she is not "embarrassing herself". She was smart not to do a dismount, she would have needlessly injured herself.
She is doing this so she won't be asking herself 'what if?'. She'll do her best at Trials, and will graciously accept whatever Marta decides.
when are the trials?
Why she didn't do her dismout?
There was no point.. with the fall her Olympic dreams were already over, no point in risking injury by doing a difficult dismount.
Se veía muy cansada para terminar la rutina. Si hubiera entrenado más tiempo habría sido un buen regreso.
OMG I'm sad:( After Rebecca and Nastia's struggled routines tonight I feel like I'm watching WOGA implode:(
That's a little harsh but you are so right. She should have started her comeback training a lot sooner like Alicia Sacramone or Shawn Johnson (too bad her knee injury came back to stop her comeback), then maybe Nastia would have a chance. Nastia is only going to the Trials because of her past achievements. I am going to try to believe in her.
It is very difficult in the world of gymnastics to make a comeback once you have been off for a while. While I do not think it is impossible it will be very difficult I do feel that she should have given her self more time to prepare. But the Trials will tell the tale of the tape. I do hope she does well but it will be very difficult.
Non-gymnast here: why didn’t she do a dismount? Was it to try and save points in case the dismount wasn’t stuck?
usually gymnasts do that when they run out of stamina to complete their routine and prevent injury
whos performing on the floor?
Who was on floor? :o And yes, she does only bars and beam now.
0:51
AND SHE STICKS THE LANDING!!!!!!
“She is just gonna do a layout put somersault she might even just do a layout fly away.”
What’s the difference?
wow, i never thought i would be so disappointed! She is great and it seems like she can do a hard routine, she did it in training, but she is failing by the pressure or what?
That routine is sooo tiring I’m not surprised it was a struggle. She wasn’t ready.
I honestly have to say it and if you don't like it, piss on you, but it's the truth; Nastia was way too competative and greedy 4 years later. If I was her at this point, I would've just retired gracefully because I already won so much gold in Beijing. Come on honey, you already had your glory; let's pass it on gracefully and humbly to someone else who has yet to live it.
She loves this sport is it wrong to keep doing what you love?
I agree. It would be different is she had kept working after 2009.
materialgirl8707 I love how you call your opinion the truth. Honey there's a difference.
She had a different dismount planned but messed up her routine so she had to switch to that to save energy. And I'd hope that her dad wouldn't have sent her out there in that condition unless she had been doing at least relatively well in practice
Slow down deary. Its not about glory. At the end of the day these girls are athletes. They love their sport and their sport are their entire life. Its not easy to get the gold and then walk away like that. She made the mistake of not being ready which happens, but do not call her greedy.
thats obviously not her normal dismount. she had a lot of problems executing her routine right and felt pretty off and tired. trying to do her dismount, which is a pretty difficult one, wouldnt have been worth the risk at that point.
Here is why putting Nastia on a team is a terrible idea. Using the ideal team of Mckayla, Jordyn, Gabby, Aly and Kyla and their highest scores from visas, the total team score is 186.2 Replacing Kyla with Nastia and using her highest scores gives 184.35 Giving her more generous scores of 14.4 bars and 14.7 beam gives 184.7 Being REALLY generous and giving her a 15 on bars and beam which she CANNOT get gives....185.6 And that is why anybody with sense wants her to retire.
Boy, I'm not going to mention her dismount, or her being tired, but she seems to lose her focus or something during her routines, because she keeps faltering. That's a big issue here. Not counting the major form breaks, that one part where she was doing something out of order, her dad was looking at her like "I'm suppose to spot her and I don't know what she's going to do next" lol. Priceless.
I didn't get why everyone making excuses for Nastia, if she want to be on the Olympic team she should have been ready and she better bring her A game at trials cuz there will be a major uproar if Martha still let her go
I love Nastia. Always one of my favorites, but she should have taken her 2008 gold and gone home.
Love Nastia, but her ticket to Trials was a gift.
Who is on floor with afasnyeva music? I can't imagine an american dancing that song, I just can't haha but who is performing on floor?
Did you not watch the video? Obviously she was too tired to do a real dismount. She still doesn't have the stamina to do a whole routine let alone try and pull through one where she exerted more energy than she had to. You make it sound like she isn't even trying.
She hasn't proven herself enough for me. There are too many other girls who are READY to take a chance on her simply because she was AA champion.
the leotard looks weird on her
She doesnt deserve trials.