thats a pure ret@rded argument 🤣🤣the c43 looks more luxurious inside and out while the audi looks cooler(aggresive)/sportier. Only downfall is the benz just has a less impressive engine.
If Mercedes is going to downgrade to a 4-cylinder mild hybrid, it should either be faster or cost less than the 6-cylinder C43 it's replacing. In this case it's neither.
Not really, it's not just a 4cyl, it's got a mild hybrid and that's not cheap. Many cars with mild hybrid system will cost more that their regular gas version of the same car.
@@TheBreakfastLoverit is faster, what do you mean, edit :seems like they're very even, but if they went for longer the new c43 would have definitely pulled away from the s4
There is no transitive property of racing. Assuming the cars are closely matched, as these are, you'd have to compensate for numerous factors that change from car to car, driver to driver, and day to day.
That was a great day, sorry I missed this one. Was looking forward to seeing this video. Shout out both of you for repping my hats, you guys are legends.
I'm uncertain whether it's impressive that the S4 is able to keep up with or even outperform the supposedly 'improved' C43, or if it's sad that the brand new revised C43 can't beat the S4 alongside with claiming to have more horsepower. It's worth noting that Audi has been using the 3.0T engine since 2018. They are the only German manufacturer yet to update their engine to compete with the new M340 and C43. Nevertheless, it seems their 'older' engine is still doing the job quite effectively on the C43 😂.
@@lss3536 the B58 engine in the M340i is a newer version known as Gen 2, which started in 2020. It's more powerful and has better support compared to the older Gen 1 which is what you're referring to.
What are you talking about? The C43 biturbo V6 has been used since the c400 back in 2015. Did you even do research before making that comment? BMW has been using the same B58 generally speaking since 2016. Also this car has 4 cylinders and is heavier than the s4
You think Mercedes make these type of cars to please RUclips racing channels. They make cars for everyday daily driving and they won't compromise the drivability and technology of their cars for a drag race for shits and giggles. They don't think "how can we make our c43 slightly quicker than our competitors", they put technology in the cars for efficiency and drivability reasons. A BMW m340 has an over boosted inline 6 cylinder made for performance. It's probably closer to 450 horsepower in real life and lighter than a c43. You have to drive both cars to know both purpose and strong points.
@m3awd598 Exactly! Why not show the dragy or racebox... I feel like they take these times out of thin air. To get the S4 to run a 12.5, you need superb weather conditions, a perfect road with a slight slope that is still valid on dragy. Obviously their conditions are not like that.
@andreym95 I bet he just estimates from the video. I've seen many examples that suggest no racebox or dragy is being used. Plus you don't see any mounted in the cars except when an owner brings their own
Why? Only you internet race car drivers care about these comparisons. People in real life buy cars based on their preferences and not these races. A lot of you people never even been in a 14.xx 1/4 mile car let alone a mid 12 sec car but yet have so much to say about cars y'all probably can't afford in the first place.
I was trying to figure out the difference between the first roll race and the second. Screen said you were in 2nd gear in the second. What were you in in the first roll race?
The Audi appeared to be in 3rd or maybe 4th in the first race. You can hear how low the RPM is from the Audi's camera. I think maybe the driver just used paddles to downshift to 2, but if you drive with constant throttle and no input, the car will automatically shift into 3rd or 4th, unless you actively bump the middle console shift lever to the right. In that case, the car will stay in manual until bumped back to the left. I *think* the Merc launched the same way in both races.
C43 is a amzing car in real life the ambient lighting at night the tech and very powerful mopped the floor with the Audi and all these bnw fans saying 340i it looks terrible or it’s got a little bit more power wooodnt even feel difference in everyday day driving and c43 destroys it in every way looks wise and interior amg just gets it right everytime
It's BMW or Audi for me from now on... Mercedes is completely off my list no matter what kind of vehicle we are talking about. The big German 3 is now the big German 2.
Actually I want to get the new Mercedes CLE Coupe as a daily driver next to my tuned BMW which is not really something for everyday use. I like the design of the new CLE.
The Canadian pricing for the C43 is ridiculous. Love Mercedes, but their pricing strategy lately has been outrageous. If they improved quality, sure ok, it may be justified over the competition. However, they haven't done that. There is no reason why the C43 is 18k more than an S4 and almost 10k over an M340i. Even if the engine is handmade and a true AMG engine in that sense, that is not 10k more than a B58.
Interesting comparison. What was the point of downsizing a electrifying the C43. I mean, it has same amount of torque as an unelectrified sigle Turbo V6.
There is no difference between them basically, whoever gets the jump will stay ahead, perfect launch pretty much identical the entire way, if they went for a half of a mile, c43 would have pulled away because of the extra hp
Well just to add fuel to this fire ive got a s4 3.0 V6 tdi have already beat a45 340i golf R, 335d(mapped) & tied with a m4 0-100mph drag race(on private property in the uk) all standard 700nm+350bhp torque matters more BHP is only how fast the power is delivered torque is the power.
Well for one thats a complete bs comment because the A45 if its the newer one has the more powerful version of this engine pushing about 421hp. That car the A45 gaps the M340i. The M340i gaps the S4 so please stop lying
@@x12t4qerxx voids the warranty though and these cars have blown a few turbos etc with a tune, van city auto has some serious issues as well with his tuned s4, cant even drive it because the part is going to take months to come in
23 pounds heavier lol. Audi has 50+ less HP. The 2.0L turbo at 400hp is pushing its limits, while the 3.0 V6 can be flashed to a mid 11s quarter mile car with no required bolt ons. It is honestly hilarious that Mercedes would even build a 4 cylinder AMG car, it is 180 degrees out of phase of their heritage.
@johnsharp5753 wrong the M139 can touch 500hp with just a simple tune💀 the M139 can touch mid 11’s too and its 4 cylinders. S4 is not touching anything below mid 11’s same with the 4 cylinder AMG. AMG is about 1 man one engine not just the size of the engine
You’d think with almost 200k subscribers they would invest more in their audio equipment. You can go to literally any second in the video and the quality of the audio just sounds bad.
M340 is definitely missing here and first race the C jumped. Yeah that’s called the green deal environmental garbage, 2.0L can never perform as the V6 , that’s why manufactures are moving towards these boring electric cars with no soul and no sound or 4 cylinder engines that sound like crap.
S4 handsome manly car, C43 girlish feminine exterior styling.🤣
thats a pure ret@rded argument 🤣🤣the c43 looks more luxurious inside and out while the audi looks cooler(aggresive)/sportier. Only downfall is the benz just has a less impressive engine.
S4 looks like a rebadged Passat 😂
S4 better looking car, cost less, bigger engine, sounds better and its faster
It's not faster, I don't know what are you talking about, on the first roll race I mean
@@chrism869 well the drag race was definitely disappointing for the Mercedes. I mean it got 60 hp more than the Audi. It should walk that S4 easily.
@_carfreak_2812 I know, what is up with that, yes it's heavier but it should not loose like that, I bet that s4 makes more than claimed
@@chrism869 every German car underrates horsepower bmw and Audi are very known for it though
That S4 looks and sounds 10x better inside and out!
Yeah but ,very underpowered compared to the c43 and the m340i, I would have the c43 all day over that s4
@@chrism869 How is it very underpowered when it can beat the C43 from both a roll and a dig?
@Al-qn3sj they’re literally neck and neck from a dig except the s4 has 2 extra cylinders, and extra turbo and lighter
Did you even watch the roll race?? The c43 Merc destroyed the Audi 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ TWICE
man that C43 is so disappointing..
If Mercedes is going to downgrade to a 4-cylinder mild hybrid, it should either be faster or cost less than the 6-cylinder C43 it's replacing. In this case it's neither.
@@TheBreakfastLoverall these premium brands are doing that. High cost four bangers. I’ll take an older one with a 6 or 8 instead
Not really, it's not just a 4cyl, it's got a mild hybrid and that's not cheap. Many cars with mild hybrid system will cost more that their regular gas version of the same car.
@@TheBreakfastLoverit is faster, what do you mean, edit :seems like they're very even, but if they went for longer the new c43 would have definitely pulled away from the s4
@@chrism869 watch the previous old vs new C43 race. The old C43 won.
the S4 beat the old C43 (on another channel), and the old C43 beat the new C43, so the S4 would win this one.
What channel? I’ve driven both the 6cyl c43 and the s4, c43 def pulled harder and launched better
There is no transitive property of racing. Assuming the cars are closely matched, as these are, you'd have to compensate for numerous factors that change from car to car, driver to driver, and day to day.
@@nickgalaini4152 ThrottleHouse. The S4 beat the C43. Interestingly though, without launch control or brake boosting, the C43 was quicker.
@@elenchus very true, multiple variables affect the outcome (eg. quality/condition of the tires)
The “old” C43 is faster than the S4. But yeah this new C43 is slower than the S4.
That was a great day, sorry I missed this one. Was looking forward to seeing this video. Shout out both of you for repping my hats, you guys are legends.
I'm uncertain whether it's impressive that the S4 is able to keep up with or even outperform the supposedly 'improved' C43, or if it's sad that the brand new revised C43 can't beat the S4 alongside with claiming to have more horsepower. It's worth noting that Audi has been using the 3.0T engine since 2018. They are the only German manufacturer yet to update their engine to compete with the new M340 and C43. Nevertheless, it seems their 'older' engine is still doing the job quite effectively on the C43 😂.
It kept up with the v6 c43 very well aswell, so it's not a massive surprise.
The B58 engine in the M340i has been around since 2016.
@@lss3536 the B58 engine in the M340i is a newer version known as Gen 2, which started in 2020. It's more powerful and has better support compared to the older Gen 1 which is what you're referring to.
I think it's amazing that the C43's 2 litre 4 cylinder, even with help from the hybrid system, can push a nearly 2 ton car down the road that quickly.
What are you talking about? The C43 biturbo V6 has been used since the c400 back in 2015. Did you even do research before making that comment? BMW has been using the same B58 generally speaking since 2016. Also this car has 4 cylinders and is heavier than the s4
The S4 running a 12.5 is impressive! I ran a 12.7-12.8 on a 2020 S4.
I run 11.5 completely stock
lol... not in an S4!
I run 9.9 in my S4, completely modded though lol@@brucebrowne5022
@@borinvlogs 11.5😂 Even the RS5 doesn't run that
@@andreym95 Tesla Model 3 Performance
AMAZING RACE!!!!BRAVO!!!!🙏🏆🏆
That S4 is way better looking
I love your contents.
Sam get the last gen c43 from the previous video back on here , want to see it compete again 🔥👍🏻
Maybe one day!
I bought a 23’ S4 with sound enhancing exhaust and it sounds incredible inside and out.
Shit car with pumped in audio. The rainbow society can keep their garbage audi
Can you do sq5 sportback vs x4/x3 m40i vs glc 43 😊😊😊
M340i will obliterate these 2
Value added comment right there. 😂
to be fair, from a dig an M340i xDrive can beat an M3 RWD as well.
I wouldn’t say obliterate,,, I do agree that the Bimmer is quicker , not by much though. I’ve seen 4.1 at the lowest.
Congrats bro you sure showed them 🤓
Of course it would. Bmw gives extra hp and lies about it lol
The Merc is faster, but at the cost of it's soul. The S4 and M340i are where it's at this generation.
You think Mercedes make these type of cars to please RUclips racing channels. They make cars for everyday daily driving and they won't compromise the drivability and technology of their cars for a drag race for shits and giggles. They don't think "how can we make our c43 slightly quicker than our competitors", they put technology in the cars for efficiency and drivability reasons. A BMW m340 has an over boosted inline 6 cylinder made for performance. It's probably closer to 450 horsepower in real life and lighter than a c43. You have to drive both cars to know both purpose and strong points.
I am surprised that they got 12.5 sec with thewind in the face on a warm day. I was expecring closer to 12.8-.9.
Good job!
True , 12.5 is pretty good.
Maybe they put in the wrong numbers? 12.5 is like the absolute best in negative da...
@andreym95 they never show recebox or dragy info so take it with a grain of salt (i.e., +/- 0.5sec)
@m3awd598 Exactly! Why not show the dragy or racebox... I feel like they take these times out of thin air. To get the S4 to run a 12.5, you need superb weather conditions, a perfect road with a slight slope that is still valid on dragy. Obviously their conditions are not like that.
@andreym95 I bet he just estimates from the video. I've seen many examples that suggest no racebox or dragy is being used. Plus you don't see any mounted in the cars except when an owner brings their own
I’ll be concerned for someone if they even consider buying the new c43 or even the c63s
Why? Only you internet race car drivers care about these comparisons. People in real life buy cars based on their preferences and not these races. A lot of you people never even been in a 14.xx 1/4 mile car let alone a mid 12 sec car but yet have so much to say about cars y'all probably can't afford in the first place.
I was trying to figure out the difference between the first roll race and the second. Screen said you were in 2nd gear in the second. What were you in in the first roll race?
The Audi appeared to be in 3rd or maybe 4th in the first race. You can hear how low the RPM is from the Audi's camera. I think maybe the driver just used paddles to downshift to 2, but if you drive with constant throttle and no input, the car will automatically shift into 3rd or 4th, unless you actively bump the middle console shift lever to the right. In that case, the car will stay in manual until bumped back to the left. I *think* the Merc launched the same way in both races.
Thanks. :) @@johnsharp5753
Awesome
Yeah, I’ve smoked several of the m4 series in the past, when I had my AMG 43.
That's a huge price difference between these 2 cars... The Audi is cheaper, faster, smarter etc etc 😊
Audi is clearly the winner and you save 25% of the money … 20k.. lol
That benz sounds pitiful
Where is the race between the elentra N and the GTI clubsport ?
C43 is a amzing car in real life the ambient lighting at night the tech and very powerful mopped the floor with the Audi and all these bnw fans saying 340i it looks terrible or it’s got a little bit more power wooodnt even feel difference in everyday day driving and c43 destroys it in every way looks wise and interior amg just gets it right everytime
It's BMW or Audi for me from now on... Mercedes is completely off my list no matter what kind of vehicle we are talking about. The big German 3 is now the big German 2.
Actually I want to get the new Mercedes CLE Coupe as a daily driver next to my tuned BMW which is not really something for everyday use. I like the design of the new CLE.
In terms of mid level sedan/coupe performance no doubt.
I guess I might as well had been talking to myself... SMH
@@adamwright9741 I was talking to you btw… and agreeing
Mercedes is for girls, period. I wouldn't touch them, even with a laser beam...
The Canadian pricing for the C43 is ridiculous. Love Mercedes, but their pricing strategy lately has been outrageous. If they improved quality, sure ok, it may be justified over the competition. However, they haven't done that. There is no reason why the C43 is 18k more than an S4 and almost 10k over an M340i. Even if the engine is handmade and a true AMG engine in that sense, that is not 10k more than a B58.
What’s up with the mic quality
I’d still go with the Audi S4 100% ~~ If the M340i was there I would go with that but the Audi S4 is still a great car. The V6 in that car is great 👏
Why is the amg so slow. Was it past its break in?
Interesting comparison. What was the point of downsizing a electrifying the C43. I mean, it has same amount of torque as an unelectrified sigle Turbo V6.
When has mercedes ever made a single turbo v6 or am i missing something
@@MarlonAllen-dy9yv ok. Please quote where I said the C43 had a single turbo V6.
Good job Volkswagen Group! 💪
There is no difference between them basically, whoever gets the jump will stay ahead, perfect launch pretty much identical the entire way, if they went for a half of a mile, c43 would have pulled away because of the extra hp
What a let down from the c43, my word that’s ridiculous. I am still in love with the 2018/19 3.0 v6 not this 2.0 toy of theirs
4 cylinder 😂 AMG intentionally trying to put themselves 6 feet under
Audio is too low
Well just to add fuel to this fire ive got a s4 3.0 V6 tdi have already beat a45 340i golf R, 335d(mapped) & tied with a m4 0-100mph drag race(on private property in the uk) all standard 700nm+350bhp torque matters more BHP is only how fast the power is delivered torque is the power.
Well for one thats a complete bs comment because the A45 if its the newer one has the more powerful version of this engine pushing about 421hp. That car the A45 gaps the M340i. The M340i gaps the S4 so please stop lying
We can’t judge the drag race who won, because it’s too close to tell at the end
А вы и дальше думайте,что за гибридами и электрокарами будущее,физику не обманешь С43 весит как BMW X5 прошлого поколения
For many months I can't see Korean and Japanese cars in this Channel?!!🙂
They are on fire on the side of the road
Yeah, like the Teslas@@SamCarLegion
@@SamCarLegionwhat a stupid comment. But then I'm not surprised that it comes from you. The European 💩💩 elite.
Audi looks way better & sounds better
Need Rs3
I owned an S4, it was OK, it needs another 75hp and 75tq though honestly.
just a tune with no mods you can get 431 bhp and over 500tq
@@x12t4qerxx voids the warranty though and these cars have blown a few turbos etc with a tune, van city auto has some serious issues as well with his tuned s4, cant even drive it because the part is going to take months to come in
I guess you'll have to wait until the B10 comes out, hopefully within a couple of years.
@@dq3333next year
Yeah it's called an RS lol
the w206 is all kinds of disappointing. also, Mercedes nomenclature is the stupid when it comes to their AMG products.
No back seats on da Audi? Weight reduction? Lol
Seats were laid flat
@@jaxxone4907 why? Lol
Stinger vs c43
Stinger will lose the dig and maybe take the roll. Stock stinger does 12.8-13 sec 1/4 mile. The 🇩🇪 has a better LC.
M340 for the win if it was there
why you always doing the same races🤨
Sooo you’re telling me a heavier car with 4 cylinders keeps up with an audi that weighs the same and has a bigger engine?
23 pounds heavier lol. Audi has 50+ less HP. The 2.0L turbo at 400hp is pushing its limits, while the 3.0 V6 can be flashed to a mid 11s quarter mile car with no required bolt ons. It is honestly hilarious that Mercedes would even build a 4 cylinder AMG car, it is 180 degrees out of phase of their heritage.
@johnsharp5753 wrong the M139 can touch 500hp with just a simple tune💀 the M139 can touch mid 11’s too and its 4 cylinders. S4 is not touching anything below mid 11’s same with the 4 cylinder AMG. AMG is about 1 man one engine not just the size of the engine
M340I laughing in B58
There is no clear winner here. Looks to be very even. Whoever gets the jump stays ahead basically.
Yup
New C43 is so disappointing. Slower than a S4 which is slower than M340i. So slower than old C43, more expensive.
My m340i wOUiD deStRoY tHeSE durrr
Audi is better
Looks like the Audi driver fell asleep
Id still take a Mercedes-Benz 💎 more quiet, more comfortable, more flashy & fast 😝
more girly as well lmao...
mercedes always been soft
You’d think with almost 200k subscribers they would invest more in their audio equipment.
You can go to literally any second in the video and the quality of the audio just sounds bad.
We have 10k worth of cameras- this was a microphone issue that was out of our hands. Apologies
Audi is a mild hybrid
No
M340 is definitely missing here and first race the C jumped. Yeah that’s called the green deal environmental garbage, 2.0L can never perform as the V6 , that’s why manufactures are moving towards these boring electric cars with no soul and no sound or 4 cylinder engines that sound like crap.