TikTok vs YouTube with Hank Green
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- It isn't often that Marques speaks with someone who has been making videos on RUclips for longer than he has! In this one we bring on Hank Green to talk all about social media monetization and what it's like to be a creator on multiple platforms. Marques and Hank dive deeper into a video that Hank made discussing the TikTok creator fund and why it likely isn't a sustainable option for creators who are trying to make a living.
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:09 Hank Green has entered the chat
03:43 How RUclips treats creators and how Hank views RUclips
11:20 Twitter and other social media platforms
21:32 (Ad break)
21:34 Diving deep into Hank's video
38:52 (Ad break)
38:58 Being on RUclips for a long time
47:12 Race from A to Z
51:29 Outro
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Hank is an OG for RUclips lore. Him and his brother are almost like the godfathers of what RUclips creators are today. Silent but immensely influential.
yeah they created VidCon for goodness sake
I was so excited to see this episode! I could listen to these two talk about anything for days. Also, I am shocked to be in the 3 % of women who watch MKBHD videos. Never though there were so few of us.
I’m a woman and far from a nerd or techie but somehow I stumbled on this podcast and never looked back! Love!
Woo! Part of the 3% represent!
Right! Why is that??
Also had no idea. I’m shocked at the ratio actually. Been subscribed since 2015.
Sameee 🙃
Wow proud to be one of MKBHD’s 3% female audience 🙌🏼
Same
The collab of the century
Hey!
Hank's reaction to the male:female ratio was fucking funny
Words cannot express how much I appreciate Hank Green and all of his RUclips content.
I'm so stoked P4A made over 3 million this year.
Completely agree
👍 Wow, Hank is a bundle of knowledge. I thought this might be a boring episode for me, since I only do YT as a hobby of my hobby, but Hank really opens your eyes to very interesting bits of info I didn't know. He's good to have on call, maybe when there's something big going on with YT or TT.
You should check all of his channels. SciShow is pretty big.
@@apocalypse487 🤙Right on! My kinda channel. I just subscribed.
I cannot tell you how well the release time of the pod works in the UK. Friday nights now always involve cooking and listening to waveform, preferably with a beer.
This podcast is great, introducing a verity of guests will only make it better!
Same!
It's so strange to me, hearing how little of Marques' audience is female. I experience the overwhelming male majority in IT every day at university, but I don't feel like that on tech youtube as a woman, which I think is great on the basis of feeling included still, but also I think it's really sad how few women there still are in the tech communities.
Well, it all starts with the good ol' "men go hunting, and women stay at home cleaning", like many people know, men got jobs earlier than women, until women stood up for their own rights, but still, majority of IT universities will have more male students because men spend more time than girls playing videogames, programming, and being ona computer overall. Still sad to see such a small amount of girls actually taking part in IT.
@@imran5373 A lot of the main reason is cultural. Girls are either directly or indirectly told what careers to aim for same as men. Men who want to be nurses aren't seen as much of men and women in tech aren't seen as feminine etc. As a gay brown person in tech I see that as well it's hard to get into a field that has so few people that are like you there already. Some of our professors also see it like that. Occasionally I get a homophobic or not overtly but still somewhat racist teacher. I mean a lot of them are in their 70's the demographic has some people whom hold those beliefs. I've gotten negative grades on exams because a teacher didn't think I deserved to pass despite doing well in his court. After I complained he was put through sensitivity training again (3rd time according to another professor and student) and he still has his Job and I eventually settle to pass with a C when I had an A- before the final. There's a lot of barriers for certain groups of people and it's so unfortunate.
It's always admirable to see the amount of introspection that Hank does.
Just look at Mark asking any question and it's immediately apparent that Hank has thought about the question or another related question at some point in his mindset. What a fascinating guy!
This is such an amazing discussion. The nuances Hank brought to every topic makes me excited about the creator economy. This is the stage where we at now - we have highly knowledgeable professionals debating commercially impactful topics.
This was fantastic guys! Could listen to many more just like this! 🔥
Hank the absolute 🐐as usual. Love the crossover episode.
I listen to Tangents (one of hank’s podcasts) and waveform religiously, this is just the collaboration I wanted to see!
great stuff
I kept postponing to watch this video because I knew the information intake will be large but gosh am I freaking glad that i finally have the time to watch it. This is amazing and I love how these two bring up so many things that just require attention and awareness
This topic is right on time … fortunately it is relevant for me because I am primarily on RUclips and only recent started dabbling on Tik tok. Great interview and conversation fellas.
Already listened to the audio on a plane :) didn't realize you post the audio earlier
I never thought I would see this collab. Been a fan of both of yall for a good 10 years.
Wow, this is a great listening experience. You guys touch on a lot of info I needed to hear. Good stuff indeed 👍🏿
Wow So nice to see and listen to two intellectual people who have a great attitude and discuss the issues and matters of some of the platforms and hopefully this actually makes some sit back and think.Truly enjoyed.Also makes me feel better about the content I follow.Thanks so much Deb 👍✌️
I only just found this. Did not realise how much I needed this.
This was such a great interview
This guy taught me sm on crash course that I would watch anything he’s apart of 😂😂
RUclips also is way above and beyond with accessibility compared to every other social media site i know of. it has support for rich subtitles, translations for video titles + descriptions + subtitles, and they've even finally started to roll out multi-audio tracks to allow videos to get descriptive audio (for blind/vision-impaired individuals) or natively dubbed into other languages. most of this stuff is, like, standard for TV broadcasting and has been for a long time, and yet the rest of Silicon Valley really can't be bothered. closest competitor i can think of is Twitter which supports image alt text and basic/plain subtitles in i think just one language. so, yeah, basically nothing compared to YT.
I’ve never clicked on a podcast quicker. This is gonna be fantastic
same
same
What a cool and interesting conversation, and I have no huge personal or professional stake in the creator economy. Very insightful, especially Hank's video on his channel. Now a fan of Hank Green 👍
yessssss so glad hank green was able to make it to this podcast
One of my favorite episodes so far 🤩
Loved this episode guys!
Out of all the content I consume everyday I'd say RUclips makes up 85% of it. It's by far my favorite use of the internet. I've had Premium for about a few years at this point.
Loved this pod and the one with Colin & Samir. The RUclips/social meta discussions are fascinating. Also, What microphones and arms do you guys use? Haven't seen it listed anywhere.
It's not that I'm avoiding the internet like Marques said, but I've never heard of the guy, not even once until today. I have different interests than what he does, so the only way for me to know, is for him to show up in my own interests, like on the podcast. I'm getting to know about more people just because of Marques bringing them in 😀
Hank Green is a legend. If you have struggled in understanding a academic subject, he has helped you out.
Great discussion y'all! Was interesting to hear esp about the creator space in RUclips. Something I do want to grow on my own end!
favourite episode yet!
Hey Marquess, I’ve been a really huge fan of your work and find your work ethic incredibly inspiring. I would like to bring to your attention to some issue you have not mentioned. Mainly the human effects of the technology you are reviewing. Chief among them is Tesla. Tesla was accused of involvement in the 2019 military coup in Bolivia, Elon admitted to it on twitter. Tesla was sued by the state of California for a culture of racist treatment of their employees. Please speak on these issues as they are very serious.
RUclips really needs to figure out this shorts stuff. I do not want to see shorts in my subscription feed. Until they figure that out I am ignoring youtube shorts.
I was honestly not ready for two of my favorite creators in one place, I’m still a bit stunned
something that hit me about hank while watching this is i thought about hank as just another regular person but he is incredibly influential.
Listening to this in Jan of 2024 - the Twitter segment! It’s wild to think how significantly that platform has changed in such a short period of time.
How have I never heard of Hank? I literally live on RUclips
So excited to listen to this! :D
this episode and the one with Colin and Samir are my favorite
This is so legendary I can’t wait to meet you
Honestly great points.
Great video guys
I am too old to have seen Hank's science videos, I only know him from TikTok, so this is literally my first time ever hearing him speak for more than three minutes at a time.
You need to invite John just for the typing! John could type 80 words per minute by the time he was 12 and now says he can type as fast as he can think!
Add in Phillip Defranco and you got my top three most viewed RUclipsrs of all time... I wonder if Marques would consider him and what he does relevant enough to this podcast. If so, that'd be my next long time creator pick for a guest.
Marques was on his podcast a while ago, I'm sure he finds him relevant.
I’m a proud member of the 3%!
great podcast
YUUUUS, I love Hank!
On the topic of monetization, do you guys monetize these video? I don't recall seeing ads and I've watched a fair share of them already
Completely shocked that the main channel only has 3% female viewer ratio. Super proud to be part of that but omg
The issue with TikTok is the same as Vine. It’s concept and UI does not lend itself to building communities and followings. So it is very hard to get any sort of long lasting following that transcends the platform. . We saw the same thing with Vine.
It’s so short form and people post so frequently that it doesn’t have a way for you to feel connected in a way that makes you want to really follow or build a relationship with the person that you’re watching.
Obviously there are some standouts that have transcended the platform and did so for Vine too. But the overwhelming majority of creators do not.
In TikTok world, 1 million followers means pretty much nothing. But in Instagram it’s way more meaningful and it’s a huge deal on RUclips.
I really want a follow up to this video interview now
@MKBHD was that a Pixel 5??? 32:24
OMG HANK
i clicked as soon as i saw lmao
Dftba!!
Would love to see one of these as a twitch vs youtube with ludwig
RUclips is the best social media platform. Is it perfect, no. From my experience, TikTok is fun but there is no moderation, and it's impossible to tell what the algorithms are doing. If you're on your phone, you're just hooked into the algorithms entirely. With RUclips, you're presented with at least some choice of what you view. This gives everyone a chance to use the algorithm, but also to correct, or guide it with human intervention. For this reason, it will never be a good choice, especially for children. It's literally like allowing the algorithm full control and it's scarier than anything I've seen when it comes to this topic. This is beyond privacy concerns. This is complete elimination of choice.
Right on point. Facebook 2.0
I didn’t know who Hank Green was until I saw the Crash Course page pop up.
Awesome 🔥🔥🔥
Even though I’ll never understand while Hank Green left Florida for the frozen tundra, he sure does make a lot of great content.
Tiktoks creator fund is an absolute disgrace.
I’m glad larger creators like this are standing up, more people need to know about this. 👍🏻
Because standing up to the CCP always works
What an unexpected surprise!!!
Super wild that they've never actually talked before
Shout out to Hank and the vlogbrothers!
interesting perspectives solid collab
“Do you not have RUclips Premium?”
Thanks, Hank, for asking
To summarise it, he is a lecturer on social media... You're welcome.
Hank Green?!?!??!? Yes, Please!
97:3 !!!! WOWWW. didnt expect that
One of the first things I noticed that views on tiktok didn’t convert the same in terms of monetization and community as on other platforms
85:15! MKBHD calls me world class!
me enjoying this video without ads for free
WVFRM should have a wall of various keyboards. Mechanical, a cheap keyboard, or the Apple keyboard. Have more than just three, but it would be a cool feature to the typing test.
Just finished watching random vlogbrothers videos and see this? Prefect!
I love Twitter because it's incredibly simple. You can tweet stuff, public or private. You can follow your favorite RUclips content creators and certain former presidents. Simple and sometimes fun.
hank green doesnt need a linetag or business card to present himself, he needs a short video
Hank is a CREATOR hahah
A CREATOR!
Like a god or summat
50:37 - Quinn and Marques getting sub 5 for that alphabet test is really impressive! Fastest I could get was just over 5!
Got 3.3 once today, but that was once in about 10 tries...
OOOOH IM SO HAPPY
you got hank on the show?? no wayyyyy
I feel like I've seen that guy before back in high school
13:53 Well recently, I've been seeing ads in the replies section of a tweet
He really looks like John Green from Crash Course
Holy shit WVFRM got the founder of Vidcon.
Where is timestamp man ???? 👀 is it fully about RUclips vs TikTok ?
I dunno Hank.. Iike seeing how well rated a video is when I need a tutorial
There are tools like 'bring back Dislike' awesome addon to browser.
Yoooo HYPEEEEEE!!!
that edit at 35:30 LOL (but I did that too, 97/3 is insane)
Hey marques can you please make a video on how youtube search is totally fcked up currently and shows totally irrelevant videos as to what is searched.
There's a post on r/youtube called "The RUclips Search Absolutely S*cks.", it explains everything very nicely. Even though that posst is a year old, but a lot of the comments on that posst are very recent and made in just past 1 month, which shows that a lot of people have started facing this problem on a big scale very recently and are facing it currently.
The collab we didn’t know we needed 35:28 didn’t know I was part of only 3% 😭😭
I’m from Brazil and my biggest concern is that we can’t coherce fake news, and conspiracy theories. And YT itself does nothing about it. Like flat eathers
Hank!
YES
Is the sibilance bad for everyone on this video or is it just my headphones?
I dont remember from who I heard/read this about it because I don’t think I’m smart enough to come up with it on my own.
But from a business perspective it makes total sense to remove the dislike button. In the end youtube wants you to spend as much time as possible on youtube. So when you remove the dislike button and are looking for videos (my case right now I’m getting a puppy so puppy training videos) without the dislike button I dont know which videos are good and not so I have to sit through a good portion of each video before making my mind and say “yup this sucks” or “yup this is what I need”.
All while I’m spending more time on youtube and making them happy. So they can justify it however they want but for me it’s just a business calculated decision.
Not letting viewers see the number of dislikes does nothing to stop "brigading", it only stops the viewers on the platform from discerning any kind of information AT ALL from the likes and dislikes. The like value has become a meaningless number that only reflects what percentage of people bothered to click the button, with no opposing data points present.