RTX 4080 vs RTX 4080 SUPER vs RTX 4090 - Test in 12 Games | 4K

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  • @BENCHMARKSFORGAMERS
    @BENCHMARKSFORGAMERS  10 месяцев назад +5

    💻 *PC Specs - Buy on Amazon / Newegg*
    Zotac RTX 4080 SUPER Trinity Black ED - geni.us/U8to
    Nvidia RTX 4080 FE - geni.us/RyV1
    Nvidia RTX 4090 FE - geni.us/v2uHQY
    Intel Core i9-14900K - geni.us/qYpgQeA
    ASUS TUF Gaming Z690-Plus - geni.us/Q7g3
    G.Skill Trident Z5 2x16GB, 6000 CL36-36-36-96 - geni.us/dznN
    Streacom BC1 Open Benchtable - geni.us/9PgRsf8
    Custom water cooled (CPU) - MO-RA 360, EK-Quantum Velocity Full Nickel
    Setup: bit.ly/3H117uA
    *GPU-Z Validation:*
    4080 SUPER - www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/details/2ws9g
    4080 - www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/details/v75pk
    4090 - www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/details/5fxn5
    *CPU-Z Validation:*
    4080 SUPER - valid.x86.fr/4qn6s2
    4080 - valid.x86.fr/afdddx
    4090 - valid.x86.fr/9v8zax
    🎮 *Games*
    00:00 The Last of Us Part 1
    00:42 Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora | DLSS Quality
    01:18 Starfield
    01:54 Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart | Ray Tracing + DLSS Quality
    02:36 Alan Wake 2 | DLSS Quality
    03:14 Alan Wake 2 | Ray Tracing + DLSS Quality
    03:55 RoboCop: Rogue City | DLSS Quality
    04:45 Remnant 2
    05:25 Dead Space | Ray Tracing
    05:58 Star Wars Jedi Survivor | Ray Tracing
    06:47 Cyberpunk 2077 | Ray Tracing + DLSS Balanced
    07:34 A Plague Tale Requiem | Ray Tracing + DLSS Quality
    08:22 Flight Simulator
    Intel CPU: PL1 & PL2 disabled, stock
    GPU: rBAR enabled, stock
    OS: Windows 11
    🎥 Recorded with dual PC Setup (No FPS loss, but screen tearing..)
    AVerMedia Live Gamer 4K, GC573 - amzn.to/39ODnJn
    📊 Overlay - MSI Afterburner, Rivatuner, HWiNFO
    Frametime graph: 0 - 50ms

  • @dragonman910
    @dragonman910 10 месяцев назад +89

    This generation's super cards are depressing AF. Super = super small improvement.

    • @Mwchael
      @Mwchael 10 месяцев назад

      good, i'm missing out on barely any performance

    • @julian-vanilla8379
      @julian-vanilla8379 10 месяцев назад

      4070 ti tiny improvement super small

    • @DatHondaBoi223
      @DatHondaBoi223 9 месяцев назад +6

      It’s the price that was the improvement..

    • @ShouriSeifuku
      @ShouriSeifuku 9 месяцев назад +8

      These cards were not aimed at people with the regular editions. These were aimed at people wanting to upgrade from older cards. For me, they are super. I just saved $200 bucks over the regular version for the 4080. That's super in my book. Even with a minimal boost in performance.

    • @DatHondaBoi223
      @DatHondaBoi223 9 месяцев назад +7

      @@ShouriSeifuku exactly wtf I’m talking ab^^^^

  • @khaler21
    @khaler21 10 месяцев назад +30

    About 10% improvement between each card from 4050 to 4080 and about 25-30% between 4080 s and 4090. That's so dirty how they make these evil money schemes knowing people would pay more if they charge more and that's how you turn a Graphic card company into a trillion dollar business.

    • @forog1
      @forog1 10 месяцев назад +3

      4050 to 4080?

    • @clave2049
      @clave2049 10 месяцев назад +2

      no such thing as a 4050

    • @JoanManuelG25
      @JoanManuelG25 9 месяцев назад +2

      Well, I just bought a 4080 Super for $999. (33%) better performance for $1,599 is not worth it imo. Recent Price cut was on the spot.

    • @crassusmaximus5879
      @crassusmaximus5879 4 месяца назад

      Maybe because the RTX 4090 is way stronger than the RTx 4080?

    • @firstsonofthesea7938
      @firstsonofthesea7938 2 месяца назад

      Its also hard making improvements without burning your customers house down. I think they already thought about the small increments as a way to test things and let consumers have at it without going too far.

  • @justfun5479
    @justfun5479 10 месяцев назад +86

    This is depressing.

    • @BENCHMARKSFORGAMERS
      @BENCHMARKSFORGAMERS  10 месяцев назад +49

      What? You're not happy about 1 FPS more?!?!!? 😂

    • @justfun5479
      @justfun5479 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@BENCHMARKSFORGAMERS ⚰️💀

    • @skeleton0_067
      @skeleton0_067 10 месяцев назад +10

      Why? The main improvment in 4080s is price. But you can still buy 7900XTX for that price... (OK, you're right)

    • @smamas114
      @smamas114 10 месяцев назад

      @@skeleton0_067Price !!! So if i want to buy strix 4080 super its 1700€ and at the release date was 1400€ explain that... i mean sure you can find 4080 super cheaper like mine from gigabyte ,1300€ but still they said the price will be lower but as i remember the 4080 was 1300€ !!!!!!!!

    • @smamas114
      @smamas114 10 месяцев назад +12

      Yes because 4090 it's way to expensive for this performance i will never pay 2000€ for this card !!!

  • @ghost-type
    @ghost-type 9 месяцев назад +7

    I upgraded to a 4080 Super FE from a 3080. I'm really enjoying mine. But if you're going from another 4000 series or even the 4080, it's definitely not worth it. I only went for the super due to it being 200 dollar cheaper than the 4080 originally was.

    • @derpycat6941
      @derpycat6941 9 месяцев назад

      I wouldn't buy 4080 supper over normal 4080 as in most of the comparisons it runs 10c hotter.

    • @ghost-type
      @ghost-type 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@derpycat6941 Might be something wrong with the 4080 Super you got. Mine ranges between 60C to 65C in most games. I've yet to see it hit 70C, and that's even in games like Cyberpunk. Mind you, this is in a SFF case.

    • @derpycat6941
      @derpycat6941 9 месяцев назад

      ​@ghost-type ohh, the he must be doing something wrong then, coz in the vid it's always running between 8c-12c hotter.

    • @ghost-type
      @ghost-type 9 месяцев назад +1

      @derpycat6941 well mine is an FE. It was honestly amazed at how cool it runs

    • @adnan_honest_jihadist5775
      @adnan_honest_jihadist5775 3 месяца назад

      ill keep it in mind when i want to upgrade my pc in 2027

  • @Komorur
    @Komorur 10 месяцев назад +24

    Very interesting, more power and heat for little to no difference. Thanks!

    • @Silent-1983
      @Silent-1983 10 месяцев назад +2

      4080S Zotac, that is the issue :)

    • @MakeSh00t
      @MakeSh00t 10 месяцев назад

      DRIVER needs to be updated? Because was same with 4070ti super 20 fps less.. now is fine.

    • @guiaugusto9162
      @guiaugusto9162 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@MakeSh00t your 4070 TI Super is MSI ? Because some MSI GPUs have BIOS issues for 4070 TI super, causing poor performance.

    • @MUTALISKUS
      @MUTALISKUS 10 месяцев назад +1

      fake test

    • @Zedix704
      @Zedix704 10 месяцев назад

      Thats a smaller edition from zotac

  • @miked5766
    @miked5766 10 месяцев назад +10

    I'm only seeing these vs the 4080s. No one with a 4080 was planning on upgrading to a super. I need to see the diff between a 3080 and a 4080 super. I have a 3080 and can't decide if i should upgrade because I'm not seeing benchmarks

    • @ilyasbuyuklu1587
      @ilyasbuyuklu1587 10 месяцев назад +3

      Dont upgrade dude..its not worth money..i ha rtx 3070 upgraded to 4070ti and i am not happy with that card..wait 5000 series..not worth money..nvidia cheats with 4000 series card with dlss (fake fps)..most of the youtubers use these comparisions with dlss on..without 3.0 dlss 4000 series are junk..if you have money buy 4090 only but its very overpriced...

    • @Lynxique
      @Lynxique 10 месяцев назад +5

      @kronos8294 why would u do that? 3080 is same as 4070 ...

    • @adnan_honest_jihadist5775
      @adnan_honest_jihadist5775 3 месяца назад

      just wait every 5 years to upgrade like me

  • @elgorditobonito4980
    @elgorditobonito4980 10 месяцев назад +15

    I'm once again asking if you could make another video with the 4080 super but in ultrawide

    • @BENCHMARKSFORGAMERS
      @BENCHMARKSFORGAMERS  10 месяцев назад +5

      Yes 👍

    • @ghost-type
      @ghost-type 9 месяцев назад

      I'd love to see this since I'm thinking of upgrading to an ultrawide monitor, an OLED one.

  • @tonys2683
    @tonys2683 10 месяцев назад +20

    The only GPU worth upgrading to is a 4090

    • @crassusmaximus5879
      @crassusmaximus5879 4 месяца назад +2

      Not really...

    • @charlietuzzolo5387
      @charlietuzzolo5387 4 месяца назад

      The 4090 is another $800 dollars for like 20-30% more performance I don't think that's worth it.

    • @tonys2683
      @tonys2683 4 месяца назад

      @@charlietuzzolo5387 well it literally is , i went from a 3080TI and the 4090 shits all over it .

    • @charlietuzzolo5387
      @charlietuzzolo5387 4 месяца назад

      @@tonys2683 Well of course it does I never said the 4090 isn't better than everything else but for the cost it is not worth it you should've kept the 3080ti and got a 5080 when it comes out.

    • @tonys2683
      @tonys2683 4 месяца назад

      @@charlietuzzolo5387 if you live by that philosophy you will always be just waiting for the next best thing, i had my 4090 over a year and enjoyed the benefits, the 5090 is nothing but a rumor at this point

  • @ahmadjames151
    @ahmadjames151 10 месяцев назад +6

    Waite a second.. you use Zotac that’s why the temperature is high

    • @BENCHMARKSFORGAMERS
      @BENCHMARKSFORGAMERS  10 месяцев назад +2

      Temperature of the Founder Edition in a worst case scenario (Metro Exodus 4K)
      4080 - 70°C
      4080 S - 76°C
      4090 - 80°C
      Source: www.computerbase.de/2024-01/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-review-test/4/#abschnitt_lautstaerke__kuehlung

    • @ghost-type
      @ghost-type 9 месяцев назад

      @@BENCHMARKSFORGAMERS I did an undervolt on mine to keep it cooler, especially since I have mini ITX build.

  • @TheTaxxon
    @TheTaxxon 10 месяцев назад +7

    4080 super and 7800x3d in ultrawide would be interesting to see (although idk if the cpu is going to be a bottleneck in that situation (I know nothing about pc's I just play games))

    • @Lynxique
      @Lynxique 10 месяцев назад +6

      why would be 7800x3d bottleneck? u sick? it's the best gaming cpu... even 12700k is not bottlenecked by 4080

  • @matiasgabrieldelariva9919
    @matiasgabrieldelariva9919 10 месяцев назад +5

    RTX 4080S is RTX 4080 little overclock. more temperature, higher power consumption, slower clock and everything to have between 1 to 3 more fps. The only interesting thing is the 200 dollars less, that's it and nothing more.
    Likewise, the RTX 4090, although it has up to +30% performance, at least in my region, has +100% economic cost, in addition to consuming up to +30% energy. And in a dollar/performance comparison, the 4080 is a little more attractive. until china, usa and nvidea stop making the 4090 inaccessible.

    • @theobserver9479
      @theobserver9479 7 месяцев назад +1

      Here the 4080 Super has a higher temperature because it is a Zotac Trinity which is the entry version. You would see those same temperatures if the 4080 was a Zotac Trinity. The founder edition of the 4080 Super has 10° less temperature than the Zotac, exactly the same as the founder edition 4080 model in this comparison. A Strix, Suprim, Gaming... in these same games they do not go beyond 60°/62° at most.

  • @Silent-1983
    @Silent-1983 10 месяцев назад +9

    Thank You!

  • @xldeth
    @xldeth 8 месяцев назад

    I bought 4080 rogstrix last year for 1780$ (more expensive in my country)
    I seeing 4080super now for 1200$ tuf
    But dude, fps is literally the same AND the temps, 4080 10°C lower. I love it

  • @edgeofgamingleader
    @edgeofgamingleader 9 месяцев назад +1

    they still look almost the same to me, 20fps difference just isn’t worth $600

  • @foxcannon
    @foxcannon 7 месяцев назад +1

    Welp, the 4080 Super IS cheaper than the 4080 right now for some reason, so it might be worth it 💀

  • @George-x2z
    @George-x2z 10 месяцев назад +8

    nice 2% difeence

    • @Vol1994
      @Vol1994 Месяц назад

      The S version has 10crad more for 2-3 more FPS 😂😂😢

  • @gauravsinha6060
    @gauravsinha6060 2 месяца назад

    Yo! Even 4090 can't hit 100 FPS in Avatar FOP and 80 FPS in Alan Wake 2 even with DLSS turned on.
    And with RT + DLSS, 4090 can't hit even 60 FPS in Alan Wake 2.
    Man! Does $2000 make sense for 4090? I always had thoughts in my head that you can throw anything at 4090 and it's going to handle it like a boss but not anymore. And what's going on with games nowadays?!

  • @Pipes61874
    @Pipes61874 10 месяцев назад +2

    Love the 4090 .You should have ran it no dlss at all .Because then you see exactly what your getting from the 4090.Long run people are better off getting the 4090 .

  • @X4Piper
    @X4Piper 5 месяцев назад

    Better to stick with the 4080 over the super based on temps. There’s only downsides of going super

  • @iHAMOOD_95
    @iHAMOOD_95 10 месяцев назад +1

    Wow barely see a difference here between 4080s and 4080 !!

  • @bossmotion78
    @bossmotion78 10 месяцев назад +6

    There is nothing super about the super

  • @willr2189
    @willr2189 10 месяцев назад +1

    Basically less vram usage percentage on a 4080 vs its super version. The super is has more wattage and creates 3 frames more than the regular version. The only good thing from the super version is the price, improved die, no power restriction, more cuda cores, and tensor core. which as you guys can see will only have an advantage to use for AI development and ray tracing/DLSS 3.5 for games. You can overclock it perhaps a little bit more out of it than the regular version. Other than that, Not worth upgrading the card if you already have an 4080 like myself. It's best to keep or upgrade to 4090 or 4090 super. if it ever comes out. Hopefully.

    • @pachecopacheco3462
      @pachecopacheco3462 9 месяцев назад

      Enquanto não houver concorrência para a 4090 não haverá evolução dela. O limbo entre 4080, super ou não, é muito grande para 4090 e ainda é uma parte pequena da população que pode.

  • @Jaylou88
    @Jaylou88 10 месяцев назад +4

    I’d say a driver update should fix the performance just like the ti Super

    • @slite3276
      @slite3276 10 месяцев назад +1

      i believe that was only for the 4070 ti super VENTUS version.. everything else was fine.

    • @BENCHMARKSFORGAMERS
      @BENCHMARKSFORGAMERS  10 месяцев назад +2

      The problem existed only with MSI cards - www.msi.com/news/detail/MSI-GeForce-RTX-4070-Ti-SUPER-Series-Graphics-Cards-BIOS-Update-Statement-143146

  • @dannynicholson50
    @dannynicholson50 3 месяца назад

    I think the 4080 super could have done with 10% more oomph at 4k.... i love my strix 4080s if i ever get kicked out of my house i can live inside it... its f'ing huuuuge

  • @0sn4ke0
    @0sn4ke0 9 месяцев назад

    wait. i dont get the cyberpunk one. i get like 80fps whit raytracing and dlss quality do you have path tracing enabled by any chance?? i also remember watching streamers like asmo who were getting like 120-170 fps on the game maxed out.

  • @reviewforthetube6485
    @reviewforthetube6485 5 месяцев назад

    For 200 dollars less its the absolute goat right now. So the 4090 is now 750+ more. Instead of just 500 so yeah lets not act like this is not a big ass W because it is. Lol

  • @KenKaneki-fj8pk
    @KenKaneki-fj8pk 4 месяца назад

    if imma be saving for 12 months and im saving 700 a month u bet ur butt imma get the 4090

  • @bosniaamer
    @bosniaamer 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'm so tired of these idiotic comparisons between a 4080 and 4080S. The 4080S is cheaper and better than the 4080. No one with a 4080 is upgrading to a 4080S. Show the leap from a 3080 to a 4080S -- that's a much more realistic comparison of who would be in the market for this.

  • @RexusSyafwanRS
    @RexusSyafwanRS 10 месяцев назад +1

    I think by enabling framegen we can see very much different between 4080 and 4080S

  • @TheShmomp
    @TheShmomp 9 месяцев назад

    So Nvidia really sold you the 4080 3 times that's wild

  • @hansimeier4136
    @hansimeier4136 10 месяцев назад

    Youll see that 4 k gaming is not the best option yet. Maybe in 5 years. 1440p is the sweetspot for gaming without seeling his own soul for a graphic card.

    • @pachecopacheco3462
      @pachecopacheco3462 9 месяцев назад

      Exatamente. Percebo isso também. Mesmo para uma 4090 ainda sim ela é bem forçada. Ainda vai demorar atingir mesmas potências de resoluções menores no 4k.
      Se atingir...

  • @Samurasa.
    @Samurasa. 9 месяцев назад

    2 to 4 FPS more for U$200 Less? I'm in baby

  • @nalimezzz
    @nalimezzz 10 месяцев назад +2

    В общем, надо ждать 5000 серию.

  • @ivanvodopivec8022
    @ivanvodopivec8022 8 месяцев назад

    What 4080 super is this? The temps look crazy bad... i have gigabyte windforce version and is cooler tha any of them here.

  • @COomjiNX
    @COomjiNX 9 месяцев назад +1

    Why do the super even exist at this point?

  • @Yoon-kc7xg
    @Yoon-kc7xg 10 месяцев назад +2

    4080 super 1300$ in korea. so expensive

  • @Elhunyl
    @Elhunyl 9 месяцев назад

    use frame generation when available.

    • @Gamer-q7v
      @Gamer-q7v 9 месяцев назад

      Not always. Sometimes, it's interesting to see the raw performance of a GPU without upscaling and frame gen

  • @providencez9496
    @providencez9496 7 месяцев назад

    4080 Super is running 10 degrees hotter and drawing more power even for similar FPS as non super... lol

    • @theobserver9479
      @theobserver9479 7 месяцев назад

      4080 founder edition, 4080 super Zotac trinity. If the 4080 were the Zotac and the 4080 Super the founder edition, you would see that the 4080 would have 71° and the 4080 Super would have 60°.

  • @elzockostv
    @elzockostv 9 месяцев назад +1

    4080 und 4080s macht keinen Unterschied

  • @Kirbotron41321
    @Kirbotron41321 9 месяцев назад

    I think the 4090 should be cheaper.

  • @Rdy139
    @Rdy139 10 месяцев назад

    70 degrees isn’t that too much for a gpu?

  • @lscampos
    @lscampos 9 месяцев назад +1

    10°C hotter than 4080

    • @theobserver9479
      @theobserver9479 7 месяцев назад

      4080 founder edition, 4080 super Zotac trinity. If the 4080 were the Zotac and the 4080 Super the founder edition, you would see that the 4080 would have 71° and the 4080 Super would have 60°.

  • @David-nd4to
    @David-nd4to 10 месяцев назад +5

    Pointless card

    • @Atrcn
      @Atrcn 10 месяцев назад +5

      If you had a 4080 15 months ago and decide to buy this one

  • @Pitergamer123
    @Pitergamer123 9 месяцев назад

    Why rtx 4080 super is using only 9,6gb ram and 4080 11gb?

    • @pachecopacheco3462
      @pachecopacheco3462 9 месяцев назад

      A sua pergunta é a resposta. Exatamente essa evolução que deram.

  • @elinbarrage9638
    @elinbarrage9638 10 месяцев назад +1

    did u undervolt the 4090?

  • @Kirbotron41321
    @Kirbotron41321 9 месяцев назад

    I expected more

  • @apgsko
    @apgsko 10 месяцев назад +4

    This is very terrible and bad

  • @UN_WID
    @UN_WID 10 месяцев назад +1

    Pointless card, same as the 4070 Ti Super

  • @rednex2013
    @rednex2013 9 месяцев назад +1

    4090 is the King

    • @ruankoen5947
      @ruankoen5947 9 месяцев назад

      Idk
      4080 seems better
      Its less expensive and it will still play any game at 4k
      If you have the money .. then obviously 4090

  • @andrew-q5h9w
    @andrew-q5h9w 10 месяцев назад

    4080 super OC VS 4090

  • @Cat-su7bm
    @Cat-su7bm 10 месяцев назад

    I thought that the drivers for 4080 super has bot been released yet?

  • @ionlybluffAA
    @ionlybluffAA 7 месяцев назад

    4080 is still the goat

  • @AliDadouch-c7h
    @AliDadouch-c7h 10 месяцев назад

    Hi can you please bring back fortnite to the test?
    Please no one else does it better than you

    • @BENCHMARKSFORGAMERS
      @BENCHMARKSFORGAMERS  10 месяцев назад

      But I hope you know... BFG stands for big fucking gun or benchmarks for gamers and not for best fortnite gamer 😅

    • @AliDadouch-c7h
      @AliDadouch-c7h 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@BENCHMARKSFORGAMERSnonetheless I like your fortnite benchmark the most 😊

  • @cdieseldawg5850
    @cdieseldawg5850 10 месяцев назад

    6000mhz CL 36 is a big bottleneck. Get some good/fast ram and run the tests again. Results will be considerably different; especially the lows 🤷‍♂️

  • @АнамайАарон
    @АнамайАарон 10 месяцев назад

    4080 SUPER с обычной 4080 разница в 1-6 fps ну и зачем переплачивать, шило на мыло менять.

  • @Тима-ю2я
    @Тима-ю2я 8 месяцев назад

    просто не о чем..

  • @iBarNyz_PR
    @iBarNyz_PR 10 месяцев назад +2

    This isn't true at all... I play Robocop 4K locked @120fps on everything max out with a lower cpu (10900K)

    • @BENCHMARKSFORGAMERS
      @BENCHMARKSFORGAMERS  10 месяцев назад +3

      Check the settings..
      Fake frames (frame generation) disabled
      Lumen enabled
      Robocop benchmarks: www.pcgameshardware.de/RoboCop-Rogue-City-Spiel-73395/Tests/Test-Spielzeit-Benchmarks-1433085/2/
      RTX 4090, native 4K ~ 58 FPS..

    • @Jaylou88
      @Jaylou88 10 месяцев назад +5

      Not in native resolution you don’t 😂

    • @KentRoads
      @KentRoads 10 месяцев назад

      @@Jaylou88 DLSS is used in vid?

    • @Jaylou88
      @Jaylou88 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@KentRoads yea, No gpu can play this game in native apparently 💀

    • @staslog1111
      @staslog1111 10 месяцев назад

      Какие 120 кадров?)) У меня на 7900хтх в той же сцене 57 fps без апскейла в 4к

  • @MUTALISKUS
    @MUTALISKUS 10 месяцев назад +2

    fake~!

    • @BENCHMARKSFORGAMERS
      @BENCHMARKSFORGAMERS  10 месяцев назад +4

      lol....
      RTX 4080 SUPER Unboxing - ruclips.net/user/shortss2sj99-Tywc
      *GPU-Z Validation:*
      4080 SUPER - www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/details/2ws9g
      4080 - www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/details/v75pk
      4090 - www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/details/5fxn5
      *CPU-Z Validation:*
      4080 SUPER - valid.x86.fr/4qn6s2
      4080 - valid.x86.fr/afdddx
      4090 - valid.x86.fr/9v8zax

  • @azazelyessa9645
    @azazelyessa9645 9 месяцев назад +2

    My 4090 still the best

  • @krystiankowarek6679
    @krystiankowarek6679 10 месяцев назад

    4080 super +4% 😂😂😂😂😂😂 vs 4080 xd

    • @theobserver9479
      @theobserver9479 7 месяцев назад

      Less VRAM usage percentage, improved die, more cuda core, more tensor core, 4% more performance and what's best, $250 less. Basically that is the only thing they have sought, to give it a small improvement but still a lower price. Is it worth changing from a 4000 to a 4080 super? Obviously not. Did you want to upgrade from a 2000 or 3000 to a 4080 at the time but couldn't because the price was high? Then yes.