NEW Porsche 718 Cayman T: Road Review | Carfection 4K
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Alex Goy reviews the new Porsche 718 Cayman T on the road to see where it fits in the Cayman lineup.
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Neat. Introduce cost savings, call it "weight reduction", and come out a hero. Thanks, Porsche.
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@@brandongoon789 f1 fan
uh metal door handles are not expensive. and cpm center screen is a free option. my $101k specced Boxster T is in production at this moment. 213 people hitting a Like are all morons who also have never bought a new porsche
The quality of this man’s accent is so excellent.
agreed 💯
So glad you are back to work with Carfection, Alex. Always loved your review style.
Agree 100%
betul aku pun suka mamat ni cara penyampaian dia tu bagus
I couldn’t get a T but specced my base the same but with a hugely upgraded interior. I can honestly say it’s the best car I’ve ever owned and driven. And I’ve driven lotuses, jags, 911’s, alfas, MGB’s, vintage sports cars, single seaters, you name it. It’s sublime.
Alex Goy... one of the best cars reviewer's ...period.
Errrrr not quite. He’s good but not one of the best , he ain’t even in the same league as C.Harris or H.catchpole.
Have been saying this for years! He should get a call up to Top Gear.
@@nameatrandom9234 errr...kinda disagree... Henry, yes of course, but Harris off late has not been the same. Its just his "legacy", if u can say so, he's carrying now.
This man(Alex) got me to buy a Megane 3R S 275
This is as good and accurate a review of the Cayman T as you’ll find on RUclips. Nice one Mr. Goy. Owned mine for a year and 12,000 miles now and loving it. @9:12 yep, I can absolutely live with the noise. Not as sonorous as a flat 6; I look at it as more percussion than a wind instrument. Not bad, just different.
I'm not even close to being in a position of being able to afford this car, but I am glad that it exists regardless. Seems like its a really solid package for those who want to drive and have a bit of spare change to put towards doing so.
The T seems like a great car. I am enjoying my GTS which has the turbo 2.5L, but these things are so light, I am sure this car is fun.
Glad you are back Alex! Carfection feels somehow less without you.
At last someone who hasn’t bored the arse off me by droning on and on about “the old flat six engine”, great review Alex 😎
this is a perfect car regarding the 4 cylinder lineup of 718s, a flat 6 manual would be perfect in a non-gt4 gts 4.0
Alex has such a way with words! 😍
One of my favorite car reviews!
Alex is brilliant at this stuff. I really enjoy the video features he hosts. This was a good one as usual.
After a long wait, my Cayman T is coming in April. GT Silver, Manual and the 2 T interior packs with Lizard Green stitch. Can’t wait. Thanks for your help with the decision, Alex.
Nice review. I really love the whole idea behind the Cayman T. It's a car for driving enthusiasts and with pretty solid performance. Well done, Porsche!
Really, I'm just glad we get to see them in all these interesting colours. I'm so sick of seeing black, white and grey cars everywhere with boring designs, and I never liked Porsche, because the cayenne only seems to come in those colours and people only seem to buy SUVs these days. Colour does so much for a car emotively, and particularly that blue of the S model, is so compelling, I've almost come to a point where I like the look of the cars.
Always a great show Alex, thank you. Such a shame about that engine...
If porsche wants to enhance the driving experience, then take the 4 cylinder out and put the n/a 6 cylinder back in. Problem solved.
Aaand then the target audience can't afford it anymore thanks to ridiculous co2 fines in europe. For the rest of the world, yeah.
@@combee23 Porsche selling the flat six as a crate motor would alleviate this issue
Justin Wagner & take out the computerized downshifting
combee23 6 cylinder doesn’t pollute anymore than a turbo 4 in spirited driving. In fact the turbo 4 is worse.
the gt4 will get a n/a 6 (4.0 liter)
people still complaining about the sound.. I've heard one 718 boxster s driving past me like 2 weeks ago.. I don't know what exhaust did the guy have, but it was loud and raw.. awesome sound for a turbo 2 liter.. so yea, no need to complain, you can always make it sound better
Yeah, but they'll still complain that it doesn't sound like a flat-6.
Like every Porsche flat-6 in the past 20 years hasn't sounded almost exactly the same and generic because of it.
They have a point. 718 sounds a bit like an '80s Audi 4 cylinder tuned by ABT (or any other german tuner from that era).
Perfect entry Cayman.... but please put a 6 cylinder in the S model and above now Porsche!
The GT4 will have a six... and only be bought by collectors...
Love the way how this is will detailed
This is why I love Porsche
Can't imagine dropping in the 2.5 engine would do anything to upset the handling balance or feel.
Huh? It will make the handling better cause it's lighter with more Torque
@@iliovecaRS Not lighter
Alex Goy where have you been!??? Your work has been missed!
A common complaint among reviewers seems to be the cars perceived turbo lag. Lug the motor and then complain about how long it takes to get into boost. They rave about the manual, but then refuse to downshift. At least Alex showed both sides of the story. Drive it properly and theres no issue.
Agreed, it's almost as if people forgot how to drive. It was the same with the beautiful high-strung engines of yesterday...lug it around 2k and floor it and you won't get REALLY going until the tach finally hits 4-5k.
I still strongly prefer non-turbo engines in all cars, but there's nothing wrong with this engine. It's only real fault is that it came out after an engine that sounded amazing.
Alex's narration is like a symphony. Amazing review as always Alex. Always loved your reviews. Good to see you back!
In August 2016 I went to Porsche of West Broward in Florida both 981 Cayman & 718 Cayman were available brand new in the showroom parked next to one another ..I started both cars right there in the showroom thats all it took for me to decide which one was for me, the price of both cars was in the $75k rang.....I drove home the brand new naturally aspirated flat 6 that day with the following options: sports chrono package, sports plus exhaust system, power steering plus, seat belts in racing yellow, 20" black satin Carrera S wheels, sports suspension options which lowered my car by 20mm, 6 speed manual transmission, smoked light package, seat ventilation, sport design steering wheel..... the sound of the naturally aspirated flat 6 mid engine behind my seat is like a symphony honestly I don't even turn the radio on I rather listing to the engine/exhaust sound......the soul of a sports car its the sound that is makes...not if you can cut 2 tenth of second from 0-60.....the 165 mile top speed in my 981 is something that I will never be able to experience its the exhaust sound that puts a smile on my face every time I start my 981 :)
Do we need to spend the coin on the close-ratio 2-3-4 on this one too?
Std sports springs good. Doesn't save enough if any weight though.
And has anyone got the sound right on these yet?
I'm not the target market.
Get the 981 2.7 and the close ratio gearset. Cheapish thrills, save 40kg, and have great sound.
Yes sir indeed everything is a 2 liter turbo nowadays 🧐 but I won’t say no to a 300 hp engine at 1350 kg 👍
Everyone complains about the four cylinder sound. I had a 912 with an after market “Stinger” exhaust and loved the sound. Why shouldn’t the new Porsche four sound just as good?
I think the turbo 4 is the best thing that has ever happened to the Cayman. The added HP and more importantly torque make the car so much more fun. Sure it doesn't have the 6 cylinder sound, but good lord, any Cayman short of a GT4 was a dog, especially with how tall the gearing was. Plus as a rally fan, I like the flat 4 sound, just channel your inner Colin McRae before you fire it up.
Subaru's engine sounds better.
It doesn't really sound like a flat 4 and especially nothing like the Group A Subarus that the late Colin McRae used to race.
Sure it does, listen to one with an aftermarket exhaust like the AWE track exhaust.
The 4-cylinder is the worst thing that has happened to the Cayman. The 718 is the only generation I wouldn't buy.
If blatantly detuned 911 motors are your thing, eat your heart out, Porsche made plenty of them. In the real world though, the base 718 is quicker than the 981 S, and the 718 S is quicker than a GT4. Progress is good
I own one, trust me guys the sound isn't as bad as you think!
@Mr.BigBoss7 I don't get guys who prefer (much) slower sports car because it sounds better than the faster one.
@@paulb7207 What would you rather have: a Nissan GT-R or a Ferrari 458 Spider?
@@trihardcx6743 I don't know. Would need to test drive them both. That's from a guy who after driving 718 and 911 (base) decided to go with 718. And I was so sure I want my "dream car" 911. Guys who base their opinions on videos/pictures/specs without real life experience with the car... hm, same league as the ones who prefer slower sports cars because of muuh... sound
@@paulb7207 Are you implying that the sound isn't a huge part of the experience? Why do you think people buy the GT3 over the Turbo, even though it's slower and less practical?
@Mr.BigBoss7
> because to some the sound that the engine creates is more important than the overall speed.
I feel sorry for guys who feel that way. More! I think guys who feel that way didn't really drive cars like this. Yes, the sound in 718 isn't as good as 6-cylinder but to say it's bad is ridicilous. It's not just as good. And then after experiencing the car in real life to make such a fuss about it? Internet trolls have this issue no one else. 718 was getting too nice, so they had to make sure it won't hurt 911 sales. That's truth to the story.
> Modern sports cars are already leaps and bounds better than what most people can handle
Absolutely, very true, agreed 100%
> Read the comments clearly I’m not in a minority with this opinion
I don't care about comments from kids reading specs and watching videos who never drove the damn thing. I thought rolexes are great till I bought one too. And I thought 911 is great car, till I test drove one. People who have strong opinions based not on real life experience but on even stronger marketing departments of big corporations... sad.
They should have put the "S" 2.5 engine in this. Then it would have been a great package.
Great to have Alex back and he said 'modulate' so all is well with the world.
nice design nice spec and manual
this is the only car i feel bad about not speccing it with a manual in Porsche's amazing lineup of cars, an amazing review for an amazing car.
Already own a base 718 Boxster (PDK), seems like going S is worth more than upgrading to a T.
Close to the ultimate car. With straight pipes and a tune, hard to imagine anything could get better. The T4 is the best motor for these and punches well above its weight, and is better then the new gts 4.0.
Amazing car, my mom getting me this when I graduate.
Spot on review (although I doubt I'd ever be in third gear at 20MPH).
Whoa! Since when you are back with Carfection? I can start watching this channel again! whooohooo!
I’ve hit a record 34.0 miles per gallon fuel efficiency during two recent flat-road 350 mile highway trips at a cruise of 75 mph in standard non-sport mode. In the US, the window sticker of a 2022 718 T reads “20 mpg city / 26 mpg highway.” Unless the car’s computer is false, the Cayman T will do well over the sticker mpg. After watching a dozen reviews of this vehicle, not one reviewer has mentioned fuel efficiency. Granted, fuel efficiency is probably not the reason someone purchases an internal combustion Porsche…but still ;)
The best presenter of this channel. Thank you for been back
Great and honest review about things we care about! Not blowing smile up the back side of Porsche. Great to see.
The manual is going to have lag, but that is part of the fun - you have to shift and ring it out a bit. The PDK would solve that instantly, but take away some driving enjoyment.
An automatic (PDK in this case) doesn’t eliminate lag. The lag is caused by the turbo - until the exhaust pressure is high enough to spin the turbo and pump compressed air into the intake, it’s going to be laggy. Getting a good launch with a manual takes practice. The PDK wins 0-60 because of how fast it shifts - which no human can match.
@@Encourageable Everytime you put the clutch in to change gear the engine goes off boost, the PDK stays on boost. That's what I meant to say.
I can't understand why this channel only has 645k subscribers when top gear has 6 million yet this channel has by far the best car videos now since Chris Harris stopped his regulars.
I personally wouldn't really want the extra power the S offers. I still want to redline without going over the speed limit LOL.
Buy a Chevette; You'll be happy as a clam-
Alex u need to do all vids on this channel ur why i sub
It saddens me that the lightened version of Porsche's smallest sports car weighs over 1300kg. Every version of the 914 was under a ton, not to mention the 550 and 718, to which the Boxster is supposed to be a spiritual successor.
I don't see many 718s like I used to with the older 6 cylinder models. I would go for an older model I think...
Interesting well shot video as per usual standards.... just wish they were more frequent.
welcome back dude
loved that shot of the exhausts moving down when floored
I'd go for the T because you can spec the 918 seats, mega!
All the people winging about 6 cylinder engines - the people that aren't going to buy one anyway.
An amazing car and a design that is timeless.
Stil not sure if its worth the 30k premium over hot hatches with the same performance and less weight
Driven close to the limit on a track and you'll quickly see the suspension tuning is night and day...that being said, on the street it's negligible(adding to your point).
it's a Porsche what did you expect? also the non t or s variant it gonna be cheaper
@@nickb3968 it better be fucking night and day for a 30k suspension...
It isn't even remotely in the same realm. I've owned a WRX hatch and two STi's. My Cayman would run circles around all of them.
Finally after the 911R Porsche have realised people actually love driving and now there producing cars to cater for them.
If they knew that they would of kept the flat 6.
Steve Cade they don’t have a choice with EU Co2 regulations. I’m sure they’d keep it if they could.
Great to see you back Alex!
Cracking review , nicely filmed 👌
Hmm. I like the cayman t but.. I think it's really just a value package with the ability to get bucket seats in NA anyway, and fabric door pulls. I wish that it was more club sport lightweight than it is. I get it's not a full GT4 type motorsports car, that is not it's core but I would have loved to see it be a bit more hardcore imo.
What means NA?
@@joshuagro7773 North America
Well done, Al! Test drove a PDK 718 Boxster S recently. Gave it back thinking "Yeah, nice, but it would be better if it had a 6-cylinder (twin) turbo." Should I speak to RUF?
911 T
The scenery reminds me of Northern California’s canyon and wine country roads.
I'm impressed how this is no longer the Porche you buy when you can't afford a 911, but the Porche you buy if you actually love to drive ... too bad a) I don't have the money and b) I haven't got a license yet :(
And c) You cant spell Porsche :)
@@soyabean911 oh hahahahaha nice one.
@@soyabean911 damn ...
In my daily car I prefer quiet instead of noise and was wondering how loud in normal mode this car is with the engine 3 feet from your ears in terms of decibels/ear damage?
Weird sounds at idle pretty normal at highway speeds and fantastic if you rev the ears off of it. It's a sports car so don't compare it to a gt sedan though.
Unplug the fake noise generator/soundaktor and it's fairly sedate in terms of engine sound. Yes you can hear it but it's definitely more quiet than the 987 Boxster I owned back in the day. Tire noise is more noticeable at cruising speed and actually the Boxster is more quiet in this regard because you aren't getting sound reflections from the hatchback area like you do in the Cayman.
718s are great - finally a Porsche that sounds as awesome as a beetle.
I like this model more than the standard one, but I don't know if maybe it is too low.Thinking about the elevated zebra crossings, or the uneven parking entrances, I'm worried about hitting the bumper spoilers everywhere. Are those shorter springs a problem for common daily use?
This is why, in my opinion, gas-electric hybrid drivetrains can be better than a turbocharged motor. They add torque across the whole rev range without compromising low-end performance. Really electric motors when used in a performance application can compliment a great naturally aspirated engine. The only drawback I assume would be added weight.
Caroll Shelby himself said you cant really use more than 300 HP in the street....not and keep your license. This car is a perfect "road" car. It has power you can use and exploit and enjoy without going to jail. It is the one I would buy. And the one I know I would laugh out loud driving.
I believe that the problem for Porsche and the whole 4 cylinders drama is that Boxster/Cayman become such a good car and so much Porsche that the need for 911 (at least for the majority of people) become less and less. It had the right size, the right sound, the right weight, the right balance, etc. and of course the right price - you have a true Porsche and still can buy a very well equiped VW Tiguan for a daily and family car. I'm a massive Porsche fan (actually I do believe that 911 GT3 is probably the bast car ever), but that offer is (well .. WAS) a very tempting one.
2:14 notice the giant hole in the dashboard. Where there would normally be an infotainment screen. Nice.
It will age better
...I'm not a badge snob, I seek out driving enjoyment, I don't care for the glory, I live in the moment, I lament the fact that manuals gearboxes are going away but at the same time I went out and bought it with my own money. I make stuff, I celebrate cars, I go on a road trip just for the hell of it. I got one. "I need to be applauded !"...:)
8:18 :)
The only guy why i watch carfection video
Im going for a nearly new S ..... I think it will be a good saving finding one with around 5 k on the clock !
It needs manual windy-down windows.
We want more Alex.... Mr Carfection!!!!
get the T and remap it, would cost about £700 max anyway, you'll essentially have a high spec Cayman S
my ExIGe weight in at 1050kg and still got a V6 in the back.
Love seeing a proper manual still
weirdly the T-model is heavier than the standard model by 15kg... 1335kg for the cayman and 1350kg for the cayman T
Love Caymans. Brz was more my budget though
Alex strikes back
20mph in 3rd gear is not going to yield great results unless it's a big torquey type motor or low end torque turbo motor. That 2.0T is a mid range motor.
I have to say that was a pretty decent review.
here in switzerland if I spec the S to the same standard I'm paying around 17k more. that's quite a lot, and then you allready are getting a GTS 4.0 (w/o options ofc).
Yep, the Cayman T is perfect for me.
Alex is back!!!
As a 911 T fan, and a Boxster/Cayman fan, this car is strangely a miss for me. There’s something about the enthusiast version not having a six cylinder that seems to completely miss the point. If you ask me, the real Boxster/Cayman T is a second-hand last gen naturally aspirated GTS.
Glad to see you back, i came back to unsubscribe this channel but after seeing you back how can we do that. Just like your review style....
Very very nice but I think I would go for the Alpine (just) and my old 924S does sound better (come to think of it so does my banger - Seat V5).
Good to see you Alex
I'm a simple man. I see alex. I hit the like button.
i drove yesterday with the cayman t pdk. In one word: No this car is very good in driving BUT the enigne dont make sound at al it feels more like a renault enigne also good but no not a good car for is price. I like the 2.5 engine far more , make a agressieve turbo engine sound and also more fun 100 cayman s or gts is what you need to buy or a 991.1 S or 4S is for the same money more fun sound of the 6 flat is amazing
I like what Porsche did with the 718 styling wise. It looks so good. Too bad they can't make the 2.0T sound good.
4:40 ... 20 mph in 3rd gear? Yea, if I downshift to 2nd I have instant power. I've tried last night, I own a T.
Alex!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh how much I've missed you
Awesome video Alex, hope to see you in the Jannarelly Design-1 soon.
I might get one my juinor year of high school 🤔
Sound matters, that's why music is a billion-dollar business. IF it has to be a turbo 4-cyl at least do something trick to minimalize the turbo lag... it's a Porsche after all. My personal opinion is Porsche new it was cheaper to build cars with a 4-cyl and hoped customers would buy into the 718 heritage. Porsche now seems to care more about SUVs than sports cars.
The early Caymans 9871/2 are still the best till 2009 also the 2.7 engine 245 HP is amazing the design is flawless the last analog Porsche buy a good one if you still can the built quality then was higher they where made in Finland at that time a bench mark in car production and the early ones where the last ones when Porsche wasn’t taking over by VW yet 😉
People shouldn’t compare this with a 6 cylinder Porsche but think of it it as Porsche’s answer to the Alpine A110. But this car has a manual transmission and is more practical- suddenly it makes a lot of sense.
Right, but then it makes even more sense to buy a 981.
Thank you Alex, lovely review!
Thanks for video
Too bad in America you cannot get to infotainment system removed because you need the monitor since all cars are legally required to have back-up cam technology. 😞
But, for a driver enthusiast like me, this is the one Porsche I really want! Love both the Cayman and the Boxster and love that they come with 6 speed manual as the STANDARD.
Just remove it yourself