Thank you kind Sir..you have taught me so much about how I view tools. It isn't so much about the price of the tool as much as it is the expertise and knowledge of what the intended use of the tool..
Interesting video. This plane, while not perfect, was certainly adequate to do most crude wood shaping. Almost all woodworking seems to begin with establishing a flat surface on a tool. From there, you can get the rest of basic joinery. However, I can't find any reference that speaks to how wood planes were initially reliably flattened before industrialization. Just thinking about it, some minerals fracture flat, so that might give you a reliable reference surface. Alternately, if you mixed a loose slurry of concrete in a box, it would settle and dry flat. Or you could pour molten metal, let it dry flat, and put sand on top to then sand wood flat. So, any information you can share on how wood was initially flattened true for toolmaking?
Well, a flat large surface is quite different to a flat small surface, and the method I use here can be used to make an ever flater plane. In therory we can assume that the stone age technique of grinding three surfaces towards each other two at the time will allways lead to a perfect plane in the end. Just ad sand and water between the two stones and they will erode. In practice I assume almost flat is enough. Wood joinery may establish a flat suface to begin with but not much flatter than what a plane is providing. A plane gives you a flat surface due to the fixation of the chisel/cut, not the flatness of the tool. The tool is only flat to stop the tool from wobbling, at a surface large enough unwanted wooble tend to even out.
@@gustavthane2233 Thank you for responding. Didn't know about grinding three surfaces together, but it makes sense. I see that I was assuming a lot about the chisel. Was always curious about how it all started. Had the opportunity to see the shop of an old woodworker out in California who did restoration work. He had so many specialized planes and tools I've never seen before. He restored an antique china cabinet that had water damage around the base. Amazing hand workmanship. He lamented having nobody to share his knowledge with.
@@Xandrosi yeah, I guess planes are one of those things you can never have to many of, a bit like axes or teapots 'only one more, than I will be satisfied'
Lovely work Mr. Thane, really beautiful to see the preciseness of tools evolve so much in so few of time. I was thinking about what you said about the iron you smelted yourself, that it's too precious. I've been looking into smelting my own iron for a while now and perhaps even creating a semi permanent smelter to sell to blacksmiths all over the world seeing as how it's somewhat hard to find. I was wondering what your thoughts are on this idea?
It is precious because it took so long time to produce and included several really sensitive steps but the tech was simple. I do not think it is the smelter people need but rather the skills and experience to balance the airflow, the slag content with the different characteristics of iron ore. If you build an oven and successfully produce qualitative forgeable steel from it I would recommend you to arrange courses instead of more ovens.
@@gustavthane2233 Another aspect I didn't consider, thank you. I think it would also be useful to people wanting a bit for a small project. However I will probably offer courses more so when I do start to make quality wrought iron and steel. Edit ( I think because of a mis communication on my part that you think I was planning on selling smelters, yet rather I was suggesting selling the wrought iron and steel made by myself, my bad :/ )
Interesting way of chopping at the beginning, very little wood wasted and a flat face to the log. Does it take much more energy to do this Vs cutting a big v notch? And do you need a long and thin axe head to do it? Just interested!
No extra work as far as I know. But as you say, it is done with a thin and long axe. It is the reason I made the axe like that. The problem with this technique is that you need to hit quite precisely at the correct place. A V-notch is more forgiving that way. But I think it takes less energy to do since it is less wood to cut off and a more straight upp and down trajectory of the axe. As a blacksmith I tend to use the axe like a sledge, perhaps a woodworker would prefer a different way of swinging the axe for god reasons... Perhaps one will comment on that here.
But also, of course, the axe is quite light weight an thin edged. With such a light axe it is not extra work, but citting a 45° angle with a heavy dedicated felling axe would be quicker. But a heavy axe is forged with a heavy hammer and I did only have stones that could fit in my hand when forging. So it had to be a light weight axe, causing this window of opurtunity.
Thank you kind Sir..you have taught me so much about how I view tools. It isn't so much about the price of the tool as much as it is the expertise and knowledge of what the intended use of the tool..
Interesting video. This plane, while not perfect, was certainly adequate to do most crude wood shaping. Almost all woodworking seems to begin with establishing a flat surface on a tool. From there, you can get the rest of basic joinery. However, I can't find any reference that speaks to how wood planes were initially reliably flattened before industrialization. Just thinking about it, some minerals fracture flat, so that might give you a reliable reference surface. Alternately, if you mixed a loose slurry of concrete in a box, it would settle and dry flat. Or you could pour molten metal, let it dry flat, and put sand on top to then sand wood flat. So, any information you can share on how wood was initially flattened true for toolmaking?
Well, a flat large surface is quite different to a flat small surface, and the method I use here can be used to make an ever flater plane. In therory we can assume that the stone age technique of grinding three surfaces towards each other two at the time will allways lead to a perfect plane in the end. Just ad sand and water between the two stones and they will erode. In practice I assume almost flat is enough. Wood joinery may establish a flat suface to begin with but not much flatter than what a plane is providing. A plane gives you a flat surface due to the fixation of the chisel/cut, not the flatness of the tool. The tool is only flat to stop the tool from wobbling, at a surface large enough unwanted wooble tend to even out.
@@gustavthane2233 Thank you for responding. Didn't know about grinding three surfaces together, but it makes sense. I see that I was assuming a lot about the chisel. Was always curious about how it all started. Had the opportunity to see the shop of an old woodworker out in California who did restoration work. He had so many specialized planes and tools I've never seen before. He restored an antique china cabinet that had water damage around the base. Amazing hand workmanship. He lamented having nobody to share his knowledge with.
@@Xandrosi yeah, I guess planes are one of those things you can never have to many of, a bit like axes or teapots 'only one more, than I will be satisfied'
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Brilliant again Gustav,from Dan
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Came for an airplane lol left going... huh cool
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Lovely work Mr. Thane, really beautiful to see the preciseness of tools evolve so much in so few of time.
I was thinking about what you said about the iron you smelted yourself, that it's too precious.
I've been looking into smelting my own iron for a while now and perhaps even creating a semi permanent smelter to sell to blacksmiths all over the world seeing as how it's somewhat hard to find.
I was wondering what your thoughts are on this idea?
It is precious because it took so long time to produce and included several really sensitive steps but the tech was simple. I do not think it is the smelter people need but rather the skills and experience to balance the airflow, the slag content with the different characteristics of iron ore. If you build an oven and successfully produce qualitative forgeable steel from it I would recommend you to arrange courses instead of more ovens.
@@gustavthane2233 Another aspect I didn't consider, thank you. I think it would also be useful to people wanting a bit for a small project.
However I will probably offer courses more so when I do start to make quality wrought iron and steel.
Edit ( I think because of a mis communication on my part that you think I was planning on selling smelters, yet rather I was suggesting selling the wrought iron and steel made by myself, my bad :/ )
@@tiresomekarma4054 Ah yes, that make more sense. Still the experience of making it oneself is valuable.
Get a large log (6’) and split it in half, smooth it out, put four legs on it and put a large blade in the middle and you have a jointer.
Sweet, sounds reasonable. Perhaps one day on this channel? A poor mans jointer.
@@gustavthane2233 it’s a tradition jointer’s tool.
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Interesting way of chopping at the beginning, very little wood wasted and a flat face to the log. Does it take much more energy to do this Vs cutting a big v notch? And do you need a long and thin axe head to do it? Just interested!
No extra work as far as I know. But as you say, it is done with a thin and long axe. It is the reason I made the axe like that. The problem with this technique is that you need to hit quite precisely at the correct place. A V-notch is more forgiving that way. But I think it takes less energy to do since it is less wood to cut off and a more straight upp and down trajectory of the axe. As a blacksmith I tend to use the axe like a sledge, perhaps a woodworker would prefer a different way of swinging the axe for god reasons... Perhaps one will comment on that here.
But also, of course, the axe is quite light weight an thin edged. With such a light axe it is not extra work, but citting a 45° angle with a heavy dedicated felling axe would be quicker. But a heavy axe is forged with a heavy hammer and I did only have stones that could fit in my hand when forging. So it had to be a light weight axe, causing this window of opurtunity.