The T'au are the closest to classic scifi FTL and yet they thought it was a good idea to observe and try to reverse engineer an Imperium warp drive. ....They found bone matter inside of it.
They eventually developed a massive space structure that holds basically a stable worm hole gate through the warp between two fixed points. The 4th expansion fleet that were the first to go through it when it was made had a VERY bad time, but the 5th fleet worked out the issues, and now the Tau have a little expanded empire sphere on the complete other side of the galaxy.
"with the power of a tortured star we ripped a hole into hell only to skitter across the surface of the roiling tides within the sea of souls. in my mind's eye i saw a beast of red rage destroy a planet with a simple beat of it's titanic wings. i dare not think what nightmares lurk in the deep of this place. master of man grant me courage, i just want to go home."
Now I wish someone makes a mod to make the Nether even more perilous to journey through, and much more _freaky._ Like shifting gravity, non-euclidean geometry (those portal mods), even asymmetric time shenanigans, and of course far more deadly creatures. "You want to shorten the travel distance? Well you better work for it, cause it won't be easy, and you best set up warding runes along your highways unless you want infernal creatures breaching in and use that portal to invade your world."
@@syyy1960the "gold helmet" also enables the nether render and simulate using the normal game engine. The concept of blocks and physics gets borrowed from the overworld, allowing you to exist and move in it (and ward off piglins)
Impirium: Warp Travel is Dangerous! "Lol " said the Necrons, Eldar, Tau, Votann, Nids and every minor xenos in the galaxy "lmao" even. "DATS DE POINT UMMIE!!!" Screamed the orks. "Keep my house out of your damn mouth!" Complained the Chaos Gods.
Tau be like: how does faster then light travel work? our gravity drive is fast but not nearly as fast.... to hell you said? hell doesnt exist you superstitious monkey, it must be something else... the kroot have it, but they dont tell us.
@@davisdf3064Tyranid Narvhals do this. Necrons use either Dolmen Gates (stolen webway portals) or drives that delete inertia (how this lets them move faster than light is not explained).
"Travellin' through space is boring. Well, boring unless da hulk yer on is full of dem gene-sneakers, or a base fer da chaos lads wiv da spikes, or already has Boyz on it. Or if humie lootas come callin', that's always good fer a bit a sport. Or unless yer have a mutiny or two to pass da time, or unless strange fings start happenin', which dey usually do when yer out in da warp. One time we had some bloody great ugly fing come straight out of Weird Lugwort's 'ed! It butchered half da lads, that was pretty entertainin'. Come ter fink of it, space is a pretty good larf. And that's before yer find yerself a nice world ta crush!" -Codex Orks: 4th Edition.
The creators were big 40k fans too apparently so it's become an unofficial super prequel to the story of the Imperium. As well as a guide to what a demonic incursion looks like.
This whole warp thing is kind of becoming a bit more real. Recent headlines about consciousness link to articles about scientists now believing that consciousness itself exists in the quantum realm. Famously the realm of entanglement that connects atoms to each other at all distances. So a realm of consciousness that has the ability to connect far off places to each other. A place that one might imagine if you could access it would allow you to travel to far off places and also be populated by strange and terrifying aspects of thought and emotion.
@@andrewgolubiewski3463 Ehh, 1 or 2 fringe scientists making a 'wouldn't it be neat if' article with an idea that cannot be proven or disproven isn't really science though. I'm pretty jaded. So when I see "Recent headlines about consciousness link to articles about scientists now believing that" I have to ask myself -what headlines? -where are these headlines? -what are the articles? -Are those articles from an accredited source? -Why do the scientists believe in this? -Who are these scientists? -Are they qualified? -Where was this peer reviewed? -WAS it peer reviewed? -Exactly what repeatable experiments did they do to come to this conclusion? And after thinking about it for 5 seconds you can easily come to the conclusion this just isn't true. And then we get to the stranger parts like "also be populated by strange and terrifying aspects of thought and emotion" Populated? Like by real physical sentient beings? And they are made of thoughts and emotions? I would wager no scientists believe this at all.
Inquisitor: So my pet Jokaero smith knows how to safely travel the warp on a totally green, equally effective, cheaper to make, and much simpler designed voidship that doesn't risk Daemon incursions or require us to use psykers as human batteries and has offered to show us how to build them at no cost. Tech Priest: HERESY! We shall continue swimming through literal hell and dying as the machine god intends. Now, put on your standard issue chastity belt Inquisitor, we will be traveling through Slaaneshi dominated areas of the immaterium. It won't help, but it may slow them down.
The way I understand it; In the warp, left might mean down and right may be back in time. If it's calm, that just stays consistent. A warp current is that direction faster. You're going that direction, or fighting that force. A turbulent warp or warp storm are currents that change fast. They're bad because that shear force may have the left half of your ship going forward and the right half going back in time.
It's seems like the warp was a lot calmer place before the Slaanesh storm after the dark age. There are references to human worlds beyond the light of the astronomicon. Golden age ships either had just straight up better Gellar fields that didn't need navigators or it was just easier. Probably something like what pertty made for magnus before he broke it.
@@dakotawharton From the sound of it I imagine the Golden Age ships used what the Votann have in combination with calmer Warp, it was just easier to travel through the warp back then technologically.
RE: Not every ship using navigators. A certain Roboute Guilleman built a freaking empire of his own without using navigators before the Emperor showed up. So it is not impossible to travel through the warp without navigators. It is just not as fast as travelling without them.
@@krankarvolund7771They kind of are. The Navigators houses were originally from Terra. I am not saying a third eye mutation would be impossible for someone out of Terra’s sphere, but it is impractical given the lore. Iirc, the chance of a navigator being born out of Terra is next to zero assuming they didnt already descend navigators. Ironically, you probably have a better chance with just a sane if not not so powerful Psyker because chances are, they are more common then a navigator. Just train them a bit or something.
@@twenty-fifth420 No, I was saying taht before the Emperor, humanity had Navigators to navigate the Warp, like during the Age of Technology, Humanity ruled the whole galaxy, how could they ahve done it without being able to navigate the Warp? ^^ But apparently, I was wrong, they used short distance warp travels instead of Navigators. Which still means that building an Empire without Navigators is possible, humanity did it in 25K ^^
50:42 That’s when Inquisitor Brickidemus when on a fervent tirade of such outlandish descriptive detail that another Inquisitorial retinue had to come and arrest him on suspicion of Slaanesh corruption.
I mean, it does explain why Slaanesh is so powerful despite most of the elves being offed. Imagine drawing power from trillions of people banging away their depression.
@@johnj.spurgin7037 exept if tri,,ion peopel are bangign their depressionm away itr doesnt power up slaneesh as you need aslo have emotional exesss if toulw be different if you were happy and kept banging and becoming more happier eventually leading to execs
On the subject of the lower decks; I recently saw a meme of singing shanties and I just love the idea of 40k themed shanties for the lower decks. Like heaving shanties for the giant torpedoes. Or shanties about how the rookies turn white during warp travel and you just hold on and pray to the emperor.
The best example of warp travel is the opening to darktide mild turbulence then everything is purple and your seat is made of tentacles then snaps back to reality as you translate out of the warp.
In the rogue trader game (tabletop) there is a relic you can have ship wise that the ship itself has runes and all that making the ship itself a gellar field/ built out of warp resistant materials. So another example of the "ancient" ships were indeed built different
Why yes inquisitor I did spring for the futhark paint job. It's totally above board I assure you, a rune-priest certified it as a favor for beating him at a drinking game (I cheated like a MFer).
Best way I've had a Gellar field explained to me is that it's less of a garden fence, and more of a lawn. Also 21:51 so by extension of this analogy, it could be said that space hulks are like the garbage patches in our oceans.
I joined while it was premiering and had to backtrack twice to the beginning, so all I heard before the episode even started really was "Douche Turbo Mode" from Bricky. This episode has already peaked
In the Battlefleet Gothic 2* game, the Imperial MC gets lost in the warp for 500 years. He survives the 12th Black Crusade, only to come back during the 13th
Now I am picturing a skit from Emperor Text-To-Speech. Having Big E on someone's GPS device and giving directions. All the while belittling them for being stupid and telling them to stop worshipping him. And still, everyone worships him.
"Oh boy I sure do love travelling throught the warp its so safe and reliable, by the way does anyone else taste metal, having triple vision, seeing themselves as a baby and a old man and hearing wispers in a language you dont understand yet do somehow . . ." "What no Im fine . . . Just curious"
In a short story with Emperors Children there is an astropath that falls to Slaanesh and is so obsessed with his appearance that he crashes his ship when they leave the warp, he's so disgusting that slaves and caretakers cut off their noses so they don't have to smell him, and a rival EC warband's own astropath becomes a semi sentient flesh pile that merged with the ship, and when she dies they're stuck on they planet they landed on.
My understanding of Warp travel is that the bulk of the Imperium's merchant fleet (which is actually the majority of Imperial ships) rely primarily on blind jumps. They utilize Warp lanes, which are historically "calm" regions of the Warp they can jump through without the need of a Navigator. Navigators are reserved for vessels that do not frequently follow set routes, such as warships, Rogue Trader vessels, or Inquisitorial black ships (which are different from the Astra Telepathica black ships, confusingly). There are also still Imperial ships that have no Warp capability whatsoever, usually from either more primitive but still industrialized worlds or from worlds that are so close that sub-light travel only takes a few years.
"bearers" not bears. people who carry the stuff. also originally during the DAoT and great crusade the refueling teams would have used heavily armored suits with built in force fields for protection. these suits formed the basis of the original terminator armor designs. But by M41 such protective suits basically don't exist anymore.
I always thought of the astronomican as more of a lighthouse or North Star for navigators. Not showing them directly where to go but act as a beckon and be one visible constant point in the warp to orientate yourself with.
@@U1TR4F0RCE Yes, but arguably worse. For whatever reason, what ever is in the other side of the Starwars galaxy is best left alone and unbothered its that bad. Also Starwars has a space zombie plague witha hivemind
Yeeeeeesss? It's less the conveyance, and more the perception of the warp that's unique. One paints in blood, another saw it as a forest, a thirsty could see it as visible light, another still could perceive it as sound.
🎶Soon may þe Emperor come, To banish Old Night and bring þe sun, And one day when þe Crusade is done, Mankind will rule þe stars.🎶 -Made up by me just now.
You can fly through the warp in the wake of another ship, so if you have a fleet of ships you could get away with just having one ship with Navigators (probably the biggest).
*Suddenly realizes a warp drive is just an altar that is charged up by human sacrifices and just pops the ship back and forth from the warp but doesn't move it or do anything else. Looks around ship wondering if it's also snapping up the souls of anyone else who dies...*
I love geoer fields being sleeping psykers. Having a man made Azathoth from lovecraft being the key is really cool to me. Warp travel is very naval coded. So it tracks that warp storms are very similar to tropical storms. A storm massive and intense that travel is near impossible and if big enough can cause significant damage to mainland areas. But once they hit land the storm starts dropping in strength and will end much sooner. Very similar to a hurricane.
UNSC: We punch a hole into an alternate dimension to travel faster than the speed of light. It's very dangerous if something bad happens. Imperium: *lighthearted chuckle* That's cute.
The thing about the need for psykers in the gellarfield engine was a continuity error in the indomidus lore if I am not very mistaken. Because gellar fields existed before humanity discovered psykers it kinda doesnt make sense that they would always need psykers to fuel the field. So GW changed that lore bit that humanity forgot how to fix the gellar fields properly so they came up with the psyker dream fix.
My favorite and both most and least accurate description of the warp: "The common mode of space travel in setting is literally ripping a hole into hell, flying into it, and then ripping your way back out...all while a likely crazy man is at the wheel, and you are praying not that you survive, nor even you arrive exactly at your destination and/or on time...no you pray to your God(s) that nothing notices you on the way, and no one is dumb or crazy enough to let any hitchhikers tag along" In unrelated notes a key horror aspect my freind wrote for his naucent psyker char in rouge trader is that "something" did notice him the first warp jump he had made and since has been stalking him...slowly growing closer and closer, only he senses it...and it just follows him across the galaxy (explaining why he is tagging along with the party to the most dangerous spaces across the galaxy) he is terrified if he ever stops for a particularly long period of time it catches up to him.
Writing my book listening about the warp and than suddenly paying attention as they are speaking about elders boinking it in a home.... God damn i love this channel
0:44 I really do appreciate Shy with the ELLEN JOE warhammer theme poster, and even including herself as a bangboo unit from ZZZ! Well done, Shy and everyone else!
Because I read it recently, the source for the comatose psyket inducing the gellar field is Flight of the Eisenstein. And they also do an emergency return to real space from a failure of said Gellar field by using a gravitational well. Aka you cna only jump OUT easily if there is something like the gravity of a a star system to helo you pull out.
5:23 um akctually bricky. The Tau do use the warp. They just don't have navigators. Instead of doing full warp dives like humanity do, the Tau skim along the edge of warp space, never going deep but still using it for short hops. There are actually 2 methods of Tau FTL that both use the warp. The gravitic drive that skims that warp along the space between realspace and the warp and the slipstream module that actually enters the warp (kind of abandoned after it created the startide nexus) Source: Battlefleet gothic: armada and the 8th ed. Tau codex by way of the lexecanium.
Cant remember where I read it, but I remember a part in a book where an imperium fleet was responding to an emergency, got caught in a storm and arrived at a planet weeks before the emergency signal even went off
SPOILER FOR AHRIMAN SERIES . . . . . Ahriman teams up with some loyalist marines whose chapter has been wiped of by the inquisition and takes the librarian as an apprentice. Later it turns out him siding with ahriman and warp fuckery cause the kill order back in time. So because his chapter got killed he became a chaos sorcerer but because he became a chaos sorcerer his chapter died. Now he hates ahriman.
Hot Air Balloons use air currents at different elevations, and the Astronomicon is more like the North Star... except it can't be obscured. ... The ending was hilarious! 😅
For traveling outside the galaxy via warp travel, the astronomican doesnt reach far enough to leave and there arent any currents out there, so ships become becalmed if they go to far out and get stuck forever
Audio file recovered from the Tau warp drive project: Human: “You turned on the Gellar field, right?” Tau: “What’s a Gellar field?” Daemon of Chaos: *crashes through wall* “Hey kids, wanna see a dead body!?” Humans and Tau: “Aaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!” Audio file recovered from an Ork ship: Daemon 1: *to the Chaos Gods* “GetmeoffthisshipRightNow! I’m serious this thing has Orks on i-Aaaaah!” *Gets killed by Ork* Tuska: *rips and tears to singing Do You believe in magic* Daemon 2: “Is that a camera? What kind of sadistic retard watches this crap?!” Khorne: “Love this show.”
imagine a crew on a ship that travels through the warp and ends up in a warp ship graveyard, where the dead souls on board loudly sing horrible space shanties from other languages, or multiple centuries in the past or futures, and to the crew's horror, some of the ones they can understand have certain words and themes swapped out to portend horrible imminent doom. Maybe during a crusade, a ship and its crew are on the brink of death, during their lowest point, and they make an emergency jump into the warp, only to hear ghostly singing coming from an eerily similar vessel to their own...
This has been brought up in Weshammer's videos. There IS such a place in realspace in 40K. No one wants to find out what it looks like on the immaterial side.
Meanwhile all the Azure Lane and Kancolle fans are salivating, and thus the tradition of the captain being married to his ship is continued even in the dark future.
I mentioned this on a previous episode but it's also relevant here: according to everything I could find on it, the Tau use the warp for faster than light communication, but not so much for travel. They have AI piloted drone space ships that can do all the same navigating of the warp that the imperial navigators do, but since it's just a machine with no souls aboard the warp entities can't really tell the difference between it and an asteroid. So even though they don't have Gellar field tech they can still send these AI messenger ships loaded up with data and communications through the warp from system to system. It's basically a self driving mail truck flying through the warp all sneaky like.
I always thought the reason why Imperial Battleships look like Cathedrals while Chaos Battleships resemble more traditional warships is because the Geller Field is a machine that amplifies the belief of the millions of crew members that their ship is a place of worship. In the Warp, where faith and emotion shape reality, if everyone aboard believes the ship is holy, then daemons can't breach its sanctity.
Warpsrorm Time Shift example: The Ork Warboss who exited the Warp before he had entered it, tracked himself down and killed himself, so he could have two of his favorite Shoota.
If you want to know why Gellar Fields are needed: Just watch Event Horizon. It's a sheer coincidence, but it is a shockingly good depiction of how horribly you die without a Gellar Field in the Warp.
Great episode. Have you guys covered Flight of the Eisenstein before? Thinking of that time a Death Guard ship was up the creek and turned their warp drive into a warp flare.
The table top rogue trader rpg mentions most lesser chaos ships make sacrifices to bargain with demons. It also mentions the bloody painting navigator rite and some less wholesome ones
If you want a space opera that depicts high tech slower than light travel, i recommend Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds. His characters are a little flat imo, but the Lighthugger ship that spends years accelerating to and decelerating from near-light speeds, carrying alien weapons of apocalyptic power and implication in its massive holds, is unforgettable.
Agreed! The characters are flat as shit but I read a lot of Reynolds in high school while listening to Kid A by Radiohead and it's left such an impression. His world is cold. In a good way. Also "Diamond Dogs" is a great short story
I vaguely remember modern ships under Guilliman having dust from the emperor's throne and the skeleton of a blank encased into a casket to form the gellar field, instead of sacrificing psykers.
You'd think they could figure a mechanism a lot more efficient than the throne if the Mechanicum could get the hydro spanners out of their arses and invent something new.
"Warp's haunted."
"What?..."
(loads boltpistol)
"Warp's haunted!"
More like:
“Warp’s haunted”
“I know.”
*loads boltpistol*
The T'au are the closest to classic scifi FTL and yet they thought it was a good idea to observe and try to reverse engineer an Imperium warp drive. ....They found bone matter inside of it.
What better way to breach the warp than perpetually tormented psyker servitors?
Reminds me of a certain plot point in The Twice-Dead King involving bones and warp travel...
They eventually developed a massive space structure that holds basically a stable worm hole gate through the warp between two fixed points. The 4th expansion fleet that were the first to go through it when it was made had a VERY bad time, but the 5th fleet worked out the issues, and now the Tau have a little expanded empire sphere on the complete other side of the galaxy.
@@burnin8able iirc that got retconed,or maybe that bad retcon got retconed too
>Open Imperial Warp Drive
>Human bones inside
😐
Ah yes travelling through the warp, almost as dangerous as walking through a warhammer store during a space marine release.
The space marine players genuinely watching me buy votan after they made the new tank which is JUST THE LIEMEN RUSS AGAIN
Ork presence, low. 😂
I'd rather go through warp, thanks
@@jimimarshall6471 your chances of running into a ork space hulk is low . . .
*BUT NEVER ZERO!*
@@jimimarshall6471there’s always some Orks.
"with the power of a tortured star we ripped a hole into hell only to skitter across the surface of the roiling tides within the sea of souls. in my mind's eye i saw a beast of red rage destroy a planet with a simple beat of it's titanic wings. i dare not think what nightmares lurk in the deep of this place. master of man grant me courage, i just want to go home."
I always describe warp travel to my friends as “like using the nether in Minecraft to travel long distances in the over world”
Stealing tf outta this
Adding to this, the gellar field is basically the equipped golden helmet to ward off piglins (daemons)
Now I wish someone makes a mod to make the Nether even more perilous to journey through, and much more _freaky._
Like shifting gravity, non-euclidean geometry (those portal mods), even asymmetric time shenanigans, and of course far more deadly creatures.
"You want to shorten the travel distance? Well you better work for it, cause it won't be easy, and you best set up warding runes along your highways unless you want infernal creatures breaching in and use that portal to invade your world."
Nether in MC on hardcore with 4x mobs enabled
@@syyy1960the "gold helmet" also enables the nether render and simulate using the normal game engine. The concept of blocks and physics gets borrowed from the overworld, allowing you to exist and move in it (and ward off piglins)
Impirium: Warp Travel is Dangerous!
"Lol " said the Necrons, Eldar, Tau, Votann, Nids and every minor xenos in the galaxy "lmao" even.
"DATS DE POINT UMMIE!!!" Screamed the orks.
"Keep my house out of your damn mouth!" Complained the Chaos Gods.
Well if it wasn't for a certain big ted chicken the imperium could of used the webway
"Lol," said the necrons, "who needs the warp?"
@@Koruvax
'Who needs magic to travel anyway? Just warp the space to be closer to you! Such noobs"
Tau be like: how does faster then light travel work? our gravity drive is fast but not nearly as fast.... to hell you said? hell doesnt exist you superstitious monkey, it must be something else... the kroot have it, but they dont tell us.
@@davisdf3064Tyranid Narvhals do this.
Necrons use either Dolmen Gates (stolen webway portals) or drives that delete inertia (how this lets them move faster than light is not explained).
The term is "Emergency Realspace Translation". Nailed it for the most part, Bricky.
Would gave thought "reversion" would be involved, since the ship is "reverting" to realspace.
Nah Translation is a good enough term @@johnj.spurgin7037
"Eeeeyyyyh, pizza pasta spaghetti mama-mia" - Erebus summoning the Ruinstorm, probably
It's a-time to rain down some-a spicey meat-a balls!
As a sacrifice, Erebus breaks multiple bundles of spaghetti in half
“The warp is a strange-“
- Bricky(2024)
Astropathic Choir: "1,2 and 1,2,3,4. I'm sailing away. Set an open course for the Virgin Sea."
Navigator: "I ask for choir, not this kind of choir."
Ok. What about Life is a Highway?
I’m now imagining Cartman as an astropath, thank you.
Well if anyone can harmonize it'd be astropaths.
@@averymicrowave1713 The. Emperor's. Children.
"Travellin' through space is boring. Well, boring unless da hulk yer on is full of dem gene-sneakers, or a base fer da chaos lads wiv da spikes, or already has Boyz on it. Or if humie lootas come callin', that's always good fer a bit a sport. Or unless yer have a mutiny or two to pass da time, or unless strange fings start happenin', which dey usually do when yer out in da warp. One time we had some bloody great ugly fing come straight out of Weird Lugwort's 'ed! It butchered half da lads, that was pretty entertainin'. Come ter fink of it, space is a pretty good larf. And that's before yer find yerself a nice world ta crush!" -Codex Orks: 4th Edition.
Event Horizon. That's what I picture when a ship in 40k goes into the warp.
The creators were big 40k fans too apparently so it's become an unofficial super prequel to the story of the Imperium. As well as a guide to what a demonic incursion looks like.
Event Horizon is a cannon Warhammer movie and I refuse to acknowledge that it isn't.
This whole warp thing is kind of becoming a bit more real. Recent headlines about consciousness link to articles about scientists now believing that consciousness itself exists in the quantum realm. Famously the realm of entanglement that connects atoms to each other at all distances. So a realm of consciousness that has the ability to connect far off places to each other. A place that one might imagine if you could access it would allow you to travel to far off places and also be populated by strange and terrifying aspects of thought and emotion.
@@andrewgolubiewski3463 Ehh, 1 or 2 fringe scientists making a 'wouldn't it be neat if' article with an idea that cannot be proven or disproven isn't really science though.
I'm pretty jaded. So when I see "Recent headlines about consciousness link to articles about scientists now believing that" I have to ask myself
-what headlines?
-where are these headlines?
-what are the articles?
-Are those articles from an accredited source?
-Why do the scientists believe in this?
-Who are these scientists?
-Are they qualified?
-Where was this peer reviewed?
-WAS it peer reviewed?
-Exactly what repeatable experiments did they do to come to this conclusion?
And after thinking about it for 5 seconds you can easily come to the conclusion this just isn't true.
And then we get to the stranger parts like "also be populated by strange and terrifying aspects of thought and emotion" Populated? Like by real physical sentient beings? And they are made of thoughts and emotions?
I would wager no scientists believe this at all.
That's what it was like BEFORE Slaanesh cracked the egg.
It's so much worse now.
Hell of an ending.
Inquisitor: So my pet Jokaero smith knows how to safely travel the warp on a totally green, equally effective, cheaper to make, and much simpler designed voidship that doesn't risk Daemon incursions or require us to use psykers as human batteries and has offered to show us how to build them at no cost.
Tech Priest: HERESY! We shall continue swimming through literal hell and dying as the machine god intends. Now, put on your standard issue chastity belt Inquisitor, we will be traveling through Slaaneshi dominated areas of the immaterium. It won't help, but it may slow them down.
At that point I'd just blast the priest and pretend he went cyberpsycho.
The way I understand it;
In the warp, left might mean down and right may be back in time. If it's calm, that just stays consistent.
A warp current is that direction faster. You're going that direction, or fighting that force.
A turbulent warp or warp storm are currents that change fast. They're bad because that shear force may have the left half of your ship going forward and the right half going back in time.
It's seems like the warp was a lot calmer place before the Slaanesh storm after the dark age. There are references to human worlds beyond the light of the astronomicon. Golden age ships either had just straight up better Gellar fields that didn't need navigators or it was just easier. Probably something like what pertty made for magnus before he broke it.
@@dakotawharton From the sound of it I imagine the Golden Age ships used what the Votann have in combination with calmer Warp, it was just easier to travel through the warp back then technologically.
RE: Not every ship using navigators. A certain Roboute Guilleman built a freaking empire of his own without using navigators before the Emperor showed up. So it is not impossible to travel through the warp without navigators. It is just not as fast as travelling without them.
Chaos often uses sorcerers, powerful psykers like Space Marine Librarians can do it too.
Ultramar has like how many? 500 worlds right?
Guilliman didn't had the Astronmican, but he certainly had Navigators, they're not specific to the Emperor 😅
@@krankarvolund7771They kind of are. The Navigators houses were originally from Terra. I am not saying a third eye mutation would be impossible for someone out of Terra’s sphere, but it is impractical given the lore. Iirc, the chance of a navigator being born out of Terra is next to zero assuming they didnt already descend navigators.
Ironically, you probably have a better chance with just a sane if not not so powerful Psyker because chances are, they are more common then a navigator. Just train them a bit or something.
@@twenty-fifth420 No, I was saying taht before the Emperor, humanity had Navigators to navigate the Warp, like during the Age of Technology, Humanity ruled the whole galaxy, how could they ahve done it without being able to navigate the Warp? ^^
But apparently, I was wrong, they used short distance warp travels instead of Navigators. Which still means that building an Empire without Navigators is possible, humanity did it in 25K ^^
the gellar field is basically the jar of dirt from pirates 2
Also the Anti-Seabear Circle from SpongeBob
Jacobius Aquila, to Chaos: "Look what I got! I got a pocket of Terra! I got a pocket of Terra!"
50:42 That’s when Inquisitor Brickidemus when on a fervent tirade of such outlandish descriptive detail that another Inquisitorial retinue had to come and arrest him on suspicion of Slaanesh corruption.
I mean, it does explain why Slaanesh is so powerful despite most of the elves being offed. Imagine drawing power from trillions of people banging away their depression.
@@johnj.spurgin7037 exept if tri,,ion peopel are bangign their depressionm away itr doesnt power up slaneesh as you need aslo have emotional exesss if toulw be different if you were happy and kept banging and becoming more happier eventually leading to execs
On the subject of the lower decks; I recently saw a meme of singing shanties and I just love the idea of 40k themed shanties for the lower decks. Like heaving shanties for the giant torpedoes. Or shanties about how the rookies turn white during warp travel and you just hold on and pray to the emperor.
Oh hells yes. Warpshanties.
I think there called workman hymns in universe, i have it written down somewhere around here from wiki diving but that part stood out.
I would like to point to the TTS episode on the topic. "Welcome to the hellride without a paddle!"
It started with "The warp is strange" and ended with "PEOPLE BE BOINGING SPLOINKING"
Never change...
The best example of warp travel is the opening to darktide mild turbulence then everything is purple and your seat is made of tentacles then snaps back to reality as you translate out of the warp.
The video ending with Bricky aggressively yelling, "OLD PEOPLE FUCK, DK; DID YOU KNOW THAT!!?" Was not on my bingo card
In the rogue trader game (tabletop) there is a relic you can have ship wise that the ship itself has runes and all that making the ship itself a gellar field/ built out of warp resistant materials. So another example of the "ancient" ships were indeed built different
Why yes inquisitor I did spring for the futhark paint job. It's totally above board I assure you, a rune-priest certified it as a favor for beating him at a drinking game (I cheated like a MFer).
The Imperium doesn't have much for entertainment so banging your sorrows away is the only thing most citizens can do.
The banging will continue until moral improves.
Best way I've had a Gellar field explained to me is that it's less of a garden fence, and more of a lawn.
Also 21:51 so by extension of this analogy, it could be said that space hulks are like the garbage patches in our oceans.
I joined while it was premiering and had to backtrack twice to the beginning, so all I heard before the episode even started really was "Douche Turbo Mode" from Bricky. This episode has already peaked
Astronomicon is basically the North Star to Earth sailing
Better analogy than GPS, yeah.
In the Battlefleet Gothic 2* game, the Imperial MC gets lost in the warp for 500 years. He survives the 12th Black Crusade, only to come back during the 13th
That’s Gothic Armada II I think. The first game was set during the 12th Black Crusade
Yes! Thank you for reminding me
Gellar fields? Where we're going we dont need Gellar fields. With his eyes hollowed and his flesh ripped open lol.
Now I am picturing a skit from Emperor Text-To-Speech. Having Big E on someone's GPS device and giving directions. All the while belittling them for being stupid and telling them to stop worshipping him. And still, everyone worships him.
Headcanon accepted
A navigator skit for this would be great. Remember, he already flipped them all the bird.
To summarize ... The gellar field is like jack Sparrow putting dirt on the ship so that Davy Jones can't Land on it
"Oh boy I sure do love travelling throught the warp its so safe and reliable, by the way does anyone else taste metal, having triple vision, seeing themselves as a baby and a old man and hearing wispers in a language you dont understand yet do somehow . . ."
"What no Im fine . . . Just curious"
In a short story with Emperors Children there is an astropath that falls to Slaanesh and is so obsessed with his appearance that he crashes his ship when they leave the warp, he's so disgusting that slaves and caretakers cut off their noses so they don't have to smell him, and a rival EC warband's own astropath becomes a semi sentient flesh pile that merged with the ship, and when she dies they're stuck on they planet they landed on.
I belive the short story is "A More Perfect Union" and its novel "Lord of Excess"
My understanding of Warp travel is that the bulk of the Imperium's merchant fleet (which is actually the majority of Imperial ships) rely primarily on blind jumps. They utilize Warp lanes, which are historically "calm" regions of the Warp they can jump through without the need of a Navigator. Navigators are reserved for vessels that do not frequently follow set routes, such as warships, Rogue Trader vessels, or Inquisitorial black ships (which are different from the Astra Telepathica black ships, confusingly). There are also still Imperial ships that have no Warp capability whatsoever, usually from either more primitive but still industrialized worlds or from worlds that are so close that sub-light travel only takes a few years.
"bearers" not bears. people who carry the stuff.
also originally during the DAoT and great crusade the refueling teams would have used heavily armored suits with built in force fields for protection. these suits formed the basis of the original terminator armor designs. But by M41 such protective suits basically don't exist anymore.
I always thought of the astronomican as more of a lighthouse or North Star for navigators. Not showing them directly where to go but act as a beckon and be one visible constant point in the warp to orientate yourself with.
It is exactly that. Bricky got it wrong at first
Bricky not knowing Mulan hurts
Well that was one *banger* of an ending to the episode
fun fact. Star wars has it's own version of warp demons, ghostly entities that dwell in hyperspace and deep space called StarWeirds and Space Wraiths.
What would the unknown regions be equivalent to? The ghoul stars?
@@U1TR4F0RCE Yes, but arguably worse. For whatever reason, what ever is in the other side of the Starwars galaxy is best left alone and unbothered its that bad. Also Starwars has a space zombie plague witha hivemind
@@thomasallen9974 the mngal-mngal. That PoS.
And I believe the Pius Dea are there too.
Warp travel is one the coolest things in the setting. Makes travel in fiction both fast and eventful.
So what you are saying is there could be a navigator who rides a fake motorcycle and makings engine noises to travel the warp.
Yeeeeeesss? It's less the conveyance, and more the perception of the warp that's unique. One paints in blood, another saw it as a forest, a thirsty could see it as visible light, another still could perceive it as sound.
Daemons to most ships: *banging on the Geller field* “Let me in, LET ME IIIN!”
Daemons on an orks ship: “Let me out, LET ME OOOUUT!”
Saw the poster and first thought, sharkmaido
You know. For all the horrible fates psykers can be subjected to...a medically induced coma where you dream of realspace doesn't sound too bad.
I'm a material girl
from a material world
and I'm in imaterial hell
But do they be singing warp shanties?
Orks do.
HERE WE GO BOYZ!
🎶Soon may þe Emperor come,
To banish Old Night and bring þe sun,
And one day when þe Crusade is done,
Mankind will rule þe stars.🎶
-Made up by me just now.
Battlefleet Gothic has you covered 👌
Beat me too it, you crazy bastard @@claypigeon7063
"Haul away the Corpse Emperor" ?
You can fly through the warp in the wake of another ship, so if you have a fleet of ships you could get away with just having one ship with Navigators (probably the biggest).
*Suddenly realizes a warp drive is just an altar that is charged up by human sacrifices and just pops the ship back and forth from the warp but doesn't move it or do anything else. Looks around ship wondering if it's also snapping up the souls of anyone else who dies...*
I believe it's called a "crash translation" or "crash reversion" when you emergency drop out of the warp.
Ah, some quality posters today
..now where's the von lycaon space wolf
Bricky doesn’t want to deal with what would happen with Bao if he sold that poster maybe.
I mean, there was a furry werewolf space wolf girl poster a year or so ago...
I go on morning jogs thru the warp without a gellar field for luls
I love geoer fields being sleeping psykers. Having a man made Azathoth from lovecraft being the key is really cool to me.
Warp travel is very naval coded. So it tracks that warp storms are very similar to tropical storms. A storm massive and intense that travel is near impossible and if big enough can cause significant damage to mainland areas. But once they hit land the storm starts dropping in strength and will end much sooner. Very similar to a hurricane.
I learned so many things in this episode, but not all things I ever wanted to know...
UNSC: We punch a hole into an alternate dimension to travel faster than the speed of light. It's very dangerous if something bad happens.
Imperium: *lighthearted chuckle* That's cute.
Good ol' Scranton Reality Anchor. Take some reality with you from a place abundant in reality, into another place sparse with reality.
'afternoon train trip'
the two ultramarines that got to experience traversing the blood tracks: (@)-(@)
This episode should just be renamed "Bricky's barely disguised fetish"
The thing about the need for psykers in the gellarfield engine was a continuity error in the indomidus lore if I am not very mistaken. Because gellar fields existed before humanity discovered psykers it kinda doesnt make sense that they would always need psykers to fuel the field. So GW changed that lore bit that humanity forgot how to fix the gellar fields properly so they came up with the psyker dream fix.
My favorite and both most and least accurate description of the warp:
"The common mode of space travel in setting is literally ripping a hole into hell, flying into it, and then ripping your way back out...all while a likely crazy man is at the wheel, and you are praying not that you survive, nor even you arrive exactly at your destination and/or on time...no you pray to your God(s) that nothing notices you on the way, and no one is dumb or crazy enough to let any hitchhikers tag along"
In unrelated notes a key horror aspect my freind wrote for his naucent psyker char in rouge trader is that "something" did notice him the first warp jump he had made and since has been stalking him...slowly growing closer and closer, only he senses it...and it just follows him across the galaxy (explaining why he is tagging along with the party to the most dangerous spaces across the galaxy) he is terrified if he ever stops for a particularly long period of time it catches up to him.
Writing my book listening about the warp and than suddenly paying attention as they are speaking about elders boinking it in a home....
God damn i love this channel
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I really do appreciate Shy with the ELLEN JOE warhammer theme poster, and even including herself as a bangboo unit from ZZZ!
Well done, Shy and everyone else!
imagine drunk warp travel this mf
Going into the Warp is already drunk driving
@@beastalchemistVAthen that means drunk warp driving is just drunk driving with LSD thrown into the mix.
@@beastalchemistVA then imagine giving amasec to the machine spirit of warp engine during warp travelimagine
There are two ways I could imagine this works out ether everything goes tits up or for some reason everything works much better.@@-Matyuk
@@bennai2 the fucking drunk sleeping navigator instead reality projects alcoholism on whole crew
The most unhinged, funny ass ending in like, what, 4 years of podcasting? THIS WAS AMAZING X'D
Stygies VIII Geller fields are probably the best, I guarantee that atleast one of the Techpriests on that world used blackstone in a geller field
This episode was excellent and I learned a LOT
Because I read it recently, the source for the comatose psyket inducing the gellar field is Flight of the Eisenstein. And they also do an emergency return to real space from a failure of said Gellar field by using a gravitational well. Aka you cna only jump OUT easily if there is something like the gravity of a a star system to helo you pull out.
Imperium is weak on the pull out game...makes sense.
5:23 um akctually bricky. The Tau do use the warp. They just don't have navigators. Instead of doing full warp dives like humanity do, the Tau skim along the edge of warp space, never going deep but still using it for short hops.
There are actually 2 methods of Tau FTL that both use the warp. The gravitic drive that skims that warp along the space between realspace and the warp and the slipstream module that actually enters the warp (kind of abandoned after it created the startide nexus)
Source: Battlefleet gothic: armada and the 8th ed. Tau codex by way of the lexecanium.
Cant remember where I read it, but I remember a part in a book where an imperium fleet was responding to an emergency, got caught in a storm and arrived at a planet weeks before the emergency signal even went off
SPOILER FOR AHRIMAN SERIES
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Ahriman teams up with some loyalist marines whose chapter has been wiped of by the inquisition and takes the librarian as an apprentice. Later it turns out him siding with ahriman and warp fuckery cause the kill order back in time. So because his chapter got killed he became a chaos sorcerer but because he became a chaos sorcerer his chapter died. Now he hates ahriman.
I was sleeping and woke up to 50:33
Hot Air Balloons use air currents at different elevations, and the Astronomicon is more like the North Star... except it can't be obscured. ... The ending was hilarious! 😅
God listening to Bricky rant about old people/the empirium just getting freaky was something I was not expecting lol
For traveling outside the galaxy via warp travel, the astronomican doesnt reach far enough to leave and there arent any currents out there, so ships become becalmed if they go to far out and get stuck forever
Ending this episode with a *Bang*
Audio file recovered from the Tau warp drive project:
Human: “You turned on the Gellar field, right?”
Tau: “What’s a Gellar field?”
Daemon of Chaos: *crashes through wall* “Hey kids, wanna see a dead body!?”
Humans and Tau: “Aaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!”
Audio file recovered from an Ork ship:
Daemon 1: *to the Chaos Gods* “GetmeoffthisshipRightNow! I’m serious this thing has Orks on i-Aaaaah!” *Gets killed by Ork*
Tuska: *rips and tears to singing Do You believe in magic*
Daemon 2: “Is that a camera? What kind of sadistic retard watches this crap?!”
Khorne: “Love this show.”
imagine a crew on a ship that travels through the warp and ends up in a warp ship graveyard, where the dead souls on board loudly sing horrible space shanties from other languages, or multiple centuries in the past or futures, and to the crew's horror, some of the ones they can understand have certain words and themes swapped out to portend horrible imminent doom. Maybe during a crusade, a ship and its crew are on the brink of death, during their lowest point, and they make an emergency jump into the warp, only to hear ghostly singing coming from an eerily similar vessel to their own...
This has been brought up in Weshammer's videos. There IS such a place in realspace in 40K. No one wants to find out what it looks like on the immaterial side.
That abrupt ending had me laughing so loud I scared the cats! 😂
If the emperor is a gps, then a chaos possessed space marine is like having a local hop in your passenger seat and directing you personally.
"Maybe the ship is alive"
Bricky re-creates Event Horizon.
Meanwhile all the Azure Lane and Kancolle fans are salivating, and thus the tradition of the captain being married to his ship is continued even in the dark future.
I mentioned this on a previous episode but it's also relevant here: according to everything I could find on it, the Tau use the warp for faster than light communication, but not so much for travel. They have AI piloted drone space ships that can do all the same navigating of the warp that the imperial navigators do, but since it's just a machine with no souls aboard the warp entities can't really tell the difference between it and an asteroid. So even though they don't have Gellar field tech they can still send these AI messenger ships loaded up with data and communications through the warp from system to system. It's basically a self driving mail truck flying through the warp all sneaky like.
I have no idea what that Shy bunnyangelghost thing is, but I love it!
@1:31 BEST PART of Episode, SHYBU PLUSHIE = NEED... Make It Happen, Guys
Literally finished the Rogue Trader prologue and started listening to this. Lol.
I always thought the reason why Imperial Battleships look like Cathedrals while Chaos Battleships resemble more traditional warships is because the Geller Field is a machine that amplifies the belief of the millions of crew members that their ship is a place of worship. In the Warp, where faith and emotion shape reality, if everyone aboard believes the ship is holy, then daemons can't breach its sanctity.
The iconography and belief certainly helps repel daemons sometimes. Other times it’s a magnet.
I've been watching you guys since your very first episode and this is not a shot at anyone.......but I'm so Uber excited for more fantasy!
That ending was the best unhinged sex joke I've heard all day.
35:28 DEAD SPACE HAND
Warpsrorm Time Shift example:
The Ork Warboss who exited the Warp before he had entered it, tracked himself down and killed himself, so he could have two of his favorite Shoota.
If you want to know why Gellar Fields are needed: Just watch Event Horizon. It's a sheer coincidence, but it is a shockingly good depiction of how horribly you die without a Gellar Field in the Warp.
The creators of the movie are huge, huuuuge 40k fans so the meme is that Event Horizon is indeed the first warp travel test :D
*Camera focuses of Guardsman Seth McFarlane* "There's a million ways to die in the warp."
Great episode. Have you guys covered Flight of the Eisenstein before? Thinking of that time a Death Guard ship was up the creek and turned their warp drive into a warp flare.
Bricky went preacher mode at the end there 😂
I don't think I've ever heard anything end quite like that. Amazing. xD
It's the unhinged cut at the end for me 😂
The table top rogue trader rpg mentions most lesser chaos ships make sacrifices to bargain with demons. It also mentions the bloody painting navigator rite and some less wholesome ones
I offer "Libera te tutemet ex inferis" as the quote for the episode.
If you want a space opera that depicts high tech slower than light travel, i recommend Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds. His characters are a little flat imo, but the Lighthugger ship that spends years accelerating to and decelerating from near-light speeds, carrying alien weapons of apocalyptic power and implication in its massive holds, is unforgettable.
Agreed! The characters are flat as shit but I read a lot of Reynolds in high school while listening to Kid A by Radiohead and it's left such an impression. His world is cold. In a good way. Also "Diamond Dogs" is a great short story
I vaguely remember modern ships under Guilliman having dust from the emperor's throne and the skeleton of a blank encased into a casket to form the gellar field, instead of sacrificing psykers.
I do wish you'd briefly touched on the Votann's method being identical to pre-retcon Tau, and the Ork teeth as replacement for Gellar fields.
The astromonicon is basically a North Star to navigate by. big e doesn’t give directions
You'd think they could figure a mechanism a lot more efficient than the throne if the Mechanicum could get the hydro spanners out of their arses and invent something new.
@@BlackEpyon They found a machine which acted like the Astronomican in Imperium Nihilus. Khorne himself destroyed it.
@blam320 wait, really? Any more details on how the big guy might've manifested for it?
@@thorne6477 no it’s pretty explicitly of zenos make. The coral engine is new lore read arks of omen
@Outband599 no, I mean the fact that Khorne himself destroyed it. How did he go about it, what consequences did it have for local realspace?