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Inside the Episode - S2, Ep 5 | House of the Dragon | HBO
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- Showrunner Ryan Condal, director Clare Kilner, and more reflect on the aftermath of the Battle at Rook’s Rest and the shifting power dynamics on both sides of the war. Watch House of the Dragon S2 Sundays at 9PM on #StreamonMax.
I’m team black but Aegon’s “mummy” broke my heart. I was so crushed that she didn’t hear it and didn’t rush back into the room to comfort him some more 😭💔
This was the best scenes without Aegon this show is so empty and boring Tom you carry this season
@@queenxx1690 sadly people were right that it might be a problem to have entire episode without Tom. Like it or not he is carrying the fuck out if this season. Glad he's most likely awake in ep6
Unfortunately I think that she would’ve wanted him to make her Regent. She’s power hungry.
the dude's a r@pist
@@MintakaSaiphNow we see her as she is
Aegon is known for his famous one-liners, so here’s another one:
“Mummy.” 🥺
I totally missed this, timestamp?
@@EnricoUniverse when Alicent visited him
poor boy 🥺
Because he is a mummy
@@christianporro3447 🤣🤣you're right! he's so self aware man, people always underestimate him.
That fact that he is King Consort in The Crown is a riotously hilarious
It's good to see Jace finally taking initiative after being passive for too long. And I've really missed Vermax, such a magnificent creature.
Didn’t see much though, would’ve been nice to see Jace flying off or something
He really does have the chops at being a Prince.
Bro is as ugly as his rider but okay 😂
This is a bot comment, with botted likes lol
@@reboooot get a life, and a real job lmao
Olivia’s performance in green council was amazing 🤩 she is amazing in every scene and I want more scene to watch her acting because in every episode she shows how strong actress she is and it’s pleasure to watch her ❤
"Meleys was a beloved dragon."
By who, exactly? Certainly not the smallfolk that were slaughtered by her last season.
By Condal and Hess, because they are clearly very biased in the black camp.
Condall hates the greens, he will make shit up for them
Condal the cringe kinda forgot that Meleys killed hundreds of people.
The smallfolk kinda forgot about the massacre from a few weeks ago.
The people of King's Landing kinda forgot about all of their relatives that died in the coronation a couple of weeks prior
Parading Meleys' head like a prize was a mistake. It had broken the illusion that the small folk had of the dragons as being unbeatable. Criston Cole had doomed House Targaryen
4:26 Aemond thinks he Spider-Man
Luke was Uncle Ben
*is
Aemond is Spiderman 2099
Daemon playing Harrenhal DLC is sending me
Ah, yes, Meleys. The beloved dragon who killed hundreds of the smallfolk not even a year a ago.
Weeks ago.
You can almost hear the writers internal screams trying to make you forget that scene ever happened.
You are still stuck on that?
probably because a few hundred deaths does not equal a thousand more who remembers meleys as a dragon of two beloved Targaryen princesses. duh. 🙄
S1 ep9 totally ruin her character. She literally kill hundreds of people and then turns around and act like it was such a noble thing and also somehow she has the moral high ground in the war. Its also funny how everybody just ignore what she did but when aegon kill the ratcatcher they act like its such a horrible. The writers who wrote her character are fking dumb and only want to a girlboss moment but ended up ruining her character
As soon as Alys mentioned Daemon never meeting his mother, in response in knowing about his dream had me SHOOK 😅
One eyed willy quoting Uncle Ben from spiderman.😂 4:26
Somebody please explain Daemons mommy dream, im begging. My jaw dropped so fast it dislocated and I couldn’t finish my snacks
Short answer: Daemon’s fucked up. Long answer: See before.
You know, I have to give credit where credit is due. I didn't think this show could shock me anymore. I was wrong.
Alys is playing with his head.
It's Daemon's Silent Hill experience: his frustrated desires for sovereignty + desires for acceptance & unresolved mommy issues + his hot-blooded nature (sex & violence galore) + creepy old castle that's probably haunted = Oedipus dreams
It's just a hallucination. Keep snacking.
I loved Rhaenyra and Baela’s scene of remembering Rhaenys together. It’s giving a parallel to season one when Viserys and Rhaenyra talking about the loss of Aemma and contrasts what Alicent is as a mother, when she could’ve comforted and grieved with Aegon in earlier episodes.
Parading the Dragon head around like that was a mistake, and it's gonna pave the way for the storming of the Dragon pit
The Freys were also parading a beheaded Robb Stark’s corpse with a wolf head around as well, not knowing that Arya was there too.
It’s fun to know how it turned out for them.
Never celebrate too early, I guess.
@@nont18411BINGO. Don’t pre-cum and celebrate
I love how we just assume everyone who watches the bts has read the books and say any spoiler we can
@@hephaestus98 that ain't my problem, these books are decades old
I mean I don’t think fire and blood are.. they’re a few years no? And they’re not the main books they’re history novels
Ryan Condal kind of forgot that Meleys killed hundreds of commoners at Aegon's coronation.
And you kind of forgot to read a bit about Meleys.
The smallfolk kinda forgot hundreds of people died because of Meleys.
Apparently, a couple of ratcatchers are more traumatizing to the smallfolk than hundreds of them getting crushed
@@begobertran9739 you kinda forgot that people wouldn't feel sorry for those who perpetrated atrocities against them.
Nobody forgot. You're just confused. When she speaks of the terrors of wahhhh. Shes not really thinking about the commoner. Shes talking about the Targaryens and the dragons. We're all just pawns.
Newer seasons of GoT neglected set-up episodes like tonight’s episode of HoTD. I enjoyed seeing each faction scheme and hatch plans to win the war. That makes the action and consequential scenes hit so much harder. Good episode. Claire Kilner has been a very consistent director.
Good to have the good version of what made this franchise great
I feel like this episode really showed how big Westeros actually is. All these new and old places. Gives such a sense of scale!
We got to see the Eyrie and the Crossing, They look better than ever
The Eyrie was jarring. Nowhere near high enough, and looks completely different to the Eyrie in GoT, when they're meant to be the same location.
@@Conorp77 yeah i thought it looked a lot different but maybe it was just the angle idk
@@Conorp77 It doesn't have to be the same as the one in GoT though. It's nice to see a change but I must say indeed it was not near high enough.
tbh the Eyrie sucked, they keep changing the shape of it every time we see it on screen and there's no reason for that, it's a basic continuity error.
@@Munkenba it had different entrances so maybe the angle there showed was from the opposite angle since we really only saw it once in game of thrones. I didn’t think it was terrible
The parallels of Daemon and Aemond ruling with their coldness to the common people. Love it.
It’s the exact characters you want to see get fucked up by the power of the people.
We hear all the time in this show how both Aegon and Rhaenyra are not fit to rule, well, what does not being fit look like to power hungry tyrants? It’s a great narrative.
Viserys made many mistakes. but one thing he got 101% correct imo is that Daemon (and people like Daemon like Aemond) on or near the power of the throne are a disaster waiting to happen for the kingdom. And we're beginning to see glimpses of that this episode.
Daemon is a fucking asshole and and someone I definitely never ever want to go be lording ever me (but again I don't think anyone wants any other person to order them around). But he should have been around the throne, and Vis should have listened to Daemon. Cuz even though he is a mostly heartless more than a bit sadistic and psychotic bitch, he is loyal to his family and that Targ name and legacy, and I do think that he loves, probably, some people, very selectively, or at the very least, he is loyal to his House. And if Otto was removed as Daemon suggested (he might have removed Otto permanently himself if dude wasn't tha Hand, i think) none of this, almost none anyway, would have quite happened. So, he's kinda effective, but definitely needs someone with a much better moral compass and responsibility to have power over him, kinda like a wild pet, tbh.
I appreciate they mentioned that Rhaena tried to claim vermithor / silver Wing and almost died everyone keeps asking why she hasn't gotten a dragon.
Did they ever show that, like in S1, or was that all offscreen?? I dont remember that at all lol
@@SarcasticPlotRecaps no I don't believe it was shown on-screen
Kind of disappointed we didn't get a grand funeral scene for Rhaenys, but great episode overall. Baela's speech to Corlys was beautiful.
There could still be one.
so you suggest to rhaenyra to send a large force and dragons to recover rhaenys body , lose probably thousands of forces and then do a funeral scene at the end? oh yea i was wondering the same thing smh
@@emanuel81111we saw Lucerys funeral even though there was no body
We also did no get Aegon and Helaena wedding ,Jaehaerys funeral so you are not getting funeral too this show have no time on slow scene so we cannot get really close to the character like we did in GOT and until writers will understand it will be boring
"Meleys was a beloved dragon” Whaatt? so we’re just going to ignore her blowing up the dragon pit, the smallfolk just kinda forgot about it? a couple of ratcatchers are more traumatizing to the smallfolk than hundreds of them getting crushed?
a few hundred deaths does not equal a thousand more who remembers meleys as a dragon of two beloved Targaryen princesses. 🙄
@@uchihaheiwa7749 wtf are you talking
I'm sorry but saying Meleys is a beloved dragon after what she did at the dragonpit is on the level of Dany kinda forgot about the Iron Fleet
Maelys isn't exactly silverwing or vermithor...the writers are smoking some really strong stuff.
I swear that people complain for the sake of it are so annoying…
Look up the lore of Meleys. She was the dragon as well of Alyssa Targaryen, daughter of King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne. Both of them were beloved by the small folks and lords alike.Meleys was born during a time of peace to Westeros and was rode by two loved Targaryen Princesses. That dragon is attached to an important part of the Targaryen history.
@@begobertran9739this is why they shouldn’t have made Meleys kill the people in the dragon pit. that event was more recent than 2 former Targaryen princesses riding Meleys long ago. they should technically remembered that.
i think what was highlighted was that a dragon war is looming, many more will die and to some they now know that dragons can be killed.
@@begobertran9739 Can I have some of that copium, please?
The smallfolk kinda forgot Meleys killed hundreds of them only a few months ago.
“meleys was a beloved dragon” so we’re just going to ignore her blowing up the dragon pit? the smallfolk just kinda forgot?
Well, if you think about it. Meleys was Alyssa’s Targaryen dragon as well (mother of Viserys and Daemon). She was the beloved daughter of King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne, both were deeply loved by the small folks. Rhaenys was their granddaughter. So there was a lot of Targaryen history attached to the dragon.
@@begobertran9739 Recen events will outweigh any positive feelings of the past. I mean with that logic you could argue why the USA didnt support the Soviets because they were friendly once
Ryan Condal kinda forgot he and the other writers had Meleys killed hundreds of people back in Season 1.
@@zaja2418 i blame it all on miguel sapochnik
A dragon is not responsible for the decisions of its rider, this is common sense, it surprise me that everyone in the comment section arent using common sense.
Nice to see Cole finally given a bit of a more sympathetic viewpoint. Only took 5 episodes.
8:42 - correction. Only House Blackwood worships the old gods in Riverlands while the rest worship the seven.
Meleys bursting trough the floor in 109 was the worst decission made by the house of the dragon team. Its imo their only significant mistake but it affects so many scenes
“Meleys a beloved dragon”. They forgot episode 9 ? Or they just stupid ? Or they just trying to show greens evil any way possible
a few hundred deaths does not equal a thousand more who remembers meleys as a dragon of two beloved Targaryen princesses. 🙄
@@uchihaheiwa7749 Are you a fool? So now, because two princesses flew on her, is she allowed to kill people with impunity?
Circle that moment where Cole parades Meleys' head through King's Landing. That's some massive foreshadowing - Cole has doomed House Targaryen to ruin
Meleys is a beloved dragon? Did everyone in King's Landing forget about Meleys killing hundreds of smallfolk in Aegon's coronation?
Again, they're seen as gods. Gods can be wrathful.
The smallfolk kinda forgot that Meleys kiled hundreds of people.
1. they are seen as gods
2. dragons reminds everyone the long lasting peace and prosperity of Viserys and Jaehaerys ruling
3. the dragon didnt kill the small folk, the rider was responsible
4. small folk already believe of bad omens after Rhaenyra was stolen from his throne so they seen the killing in the dragon pit a deserving punishment from the gods.
5. they are more concerned with the horrible situation in kings landing, no food,sickness , lack of jobs, looting and killings than being angry at a creature who killed a couple of small folk because of the decisions of a dragon rider.
a few hundred deaths does not equal a thousand more who remembers meleys as a dragon of two beloved Targaryen princesses. 🙄
Im glad she's listening to Misaria.
The storming of the dragon pit will definitely be one of the most heartbreaking moments of the series. I know I was absolutely devastated, when they told the story in the animated story, in series 5 when Tyrion told both dragons the story of how he wanted a dragon for his birthday, and in series 7 during the dragon pit scenes.
Meleys is NOT a beloved dragon!! Condal, do you have the memory of a goldfish? 😂
a few hundred deaths does not equal a thousand more who remembers meleys as a dragon of two beloved Targaryen princesses.
He hopes we have
"Meleys is a beloved dragon" is such a fucking stupid thing to say
but she is. a few hundred deaths does not equal a thousand more who remembers meleys as a dragon of two beloved Targaryen princesses.
3:19 Meleys is a beloved dragon??? Is Ryan forgetting that they wrote that awful dragonpit scene? All the smallfolk should hate Meleys, she killed their family members
These are dirt poor people, I don't think they give a shit about each other
The people of King's Landing still cheered for Tywin--and that guy ordered the ransacking of the entire city at the end of Robert's Rebellion.
So there's that, I guess...
I'm still a little salty about them not having at least one person mention Rhaenys and the Dragonpit, and some loved ones lost there on such a fateful day.
Considering they've gotten so much flack for that I do think they're quietly trying to make us forget the first seasons biggest blunder.
To this day, people will often vote against their best interest out of spite or over vague promises that end up broken.
People are inconsistent and contradictory. It's part of what makes us human.
Can't help but think of that Trump voting family that got torn up after the father was deported based on Trump's policies. You'd think they'd be mad at him for tearing their family apart, but nope!
It's more about dragons being power and now King's Landing is waiting to be attacked, people are scared, hungry and now trapped.
Daemon is angry that Aemond got the crown, what he could never do 😂
Yea what a looser 😂
Olivia Cooke should win Emmy. She conveys so much through her eyes. Brilliant artist ❤
Also, we miss you Eve ❤
How was Meleys a 'beloved dragon'? She literally trampled a bunch of common people last season! Yeah maybe she was beloved before that, but now? Great episode but I continue to be baffled by the decision to add in that scene in the dragon pit.
a few hundred deaths does not equal a thousand more who remembers meleys as a dragon of two beloved Targaryen princesses. 🙄
4:26 Aemond Targaryen just quoted Spider-Man.
The small folk love Meleys? 🙄 Didn't Meleys kill many of the small folk in season 1?
I see the showrunners of HOTD share the amnesia of Dan and David. 😐
a few hundred deaths does not equal a thousand more who remembers meleys as a dragon of two beloved Targaryen princesses. 🙄
3:18 what the heck is Condal talking about? A beloved dragon? Meleys committed a massacre of hundreds of people in this very city just a few weeks ago
😅 or the part when in the book it was said about 800 casualties.. then Criston says on purpose "900"
because meleys IS beloved.
a few hundred deaths does not equal a thousand more who remembers meleys as a dragon of two beloved Targaryen princesses.
Meleys also blew up like a hundred small folk last season. I don't buy what Ryan is saying about her being a "beloved dragon" after that. It's giving major "Dany kind of forgot about the iron fleet" vibes.
Very cool episode showing the politics of the realm and how the small folk could have a role to play.
I actually thought the dragon pit scene was meant to show that the entire royal family was inherently blind and deaf to most peoples concerns and that they were all morally bankrupt. Even Rhaenys, who was always depicted as a sensible and sympathetic character..... Turns out it was just dreadful writing. Doesnt augur well for the long term health of the show. D and D didnt go off the rails all at once.
The material this 4-5 season show is based off has less pages than the Dorne & Greyjoy plot lines of the main books & those were butchered far worse and kept getting worse from there.
Calling this episode 'Regent' and not showing the Regent for more than a minute is definitely a choice. You all hate Aemond and Ewan Mitchell so much(
I’m over Daemon being in the Haunted Mansion 😒
Hopefully, next episode previous shows him leaving harrenhal so we will be getting him out of the haunting visions.
Anyone else missed Aegon this episode?
Me this episode was so boring without him
Yes I miss him.
Im sensing a little lack of subtlety lately, clearly one of the themes of the show is women’s relation to power in a patriarchy, but when a character actually says “BUT YOU ARE A WOMAN” it really goes into that heavy handed “telling, not showing” territoy, specially when the female characters are not given meaningful actions to illustrate why they would actually be fit to rule.
I also sense a difference between this and george rr martin’s approach to writing female characters in the sense that his female characters are allowed to be flawed, have desires, ambitions, anger, and negative traits that ultimately makes them humans, while in the show the women feel softened and/or misunderstood, and none are actually evil or bad, which feels ironically sexist and demeaning…
I do love the show though, but i feel the first season had a sophistication that is yet to be recaptured.
Agreed! The show is hammering the concept that woman are disadvantaged and are misunderstood too hard that at times it feels like that is its main focus. Not the throne and the power it wields. Ambitious woman exist and they can be prone to violent path as well. I dislike the constant push of Alicent. Otto should be present at kings landing assisting with the war council. He was essentially put aside and replaced with Alicent when he was the mastermind of the war. Alicent is not the queen, yet she sits in the council and demands to be named regent. Its laughable. She knows nothing of war.
@@simonbouhadana6333 its disappointing when the messaging gets more focus than the story, games of thrones had amazing messages and lessons while actually just telling a great story
it is hard to see fan favorite character die
Meleys the small folk slayer in the dragon pit? That Meleys is beloved?
“Melys is a beloved dragon” after decimating hundreds of small folk in the dragon pit six episode ago
a few hundred deaths does not equal a thousand more who remembers meleys as a dragon of two beloved Targaryen princesses. 🙄
"Meleys is a beloved dragon" you cannot be serious why would they love her? she killed hundreds of them in 1x09 at the very least!
a few hundred deaths does not equal a thousand more who remembers meleys as a dragon of two beloved Targaryen princesses. 🙄
@@uchihaheiwa7749 you are everywhere
I love Matt Smith so much 😄 i believe he was born to play this role. I can't see anyone else bringing what he brings to the character. Excellent casting.
I'm soooo sick of this hallucination plot line.... I do understand Daemon needed some time for Jace and Rhaenyra create a dragon army and stuff but it is just ridiculous now. Misaria and the witch seemed like walking scenarios here or there just wasting character's time.
Didn't expect this from me but the Greens are so much more interesting. This episode is the first in this season that FINALLY has given Rhaenyra a PLOT LINE! Thank you very much... 3 episodes left only))))
Agreed I'm bored of the hallucinations. It's basically filler at this point
I love it. GRRM works are great because of how grounded they are in real historical politics and all that...but its still a fantasy world. GoT's beyond the wall/whitewalker storyline complemented the more immediate and realistic stuff nicely. HotD is very politic heavy and without moments like this its just throne room drama with dragons who are essentially just military props.
3:20 "Meleys is a beloved dragon" who also killed and wounded hundreds of Kings Landing smallfolk, you numpty.
the writers threw that stupid moment in cause they thought it would be badass and now they're pretending it didnt happen
a few hundred deaths does not equal a thousand more who remembers meleys as a dragon of two beloved Targaryen princesses. 🙄
imagine doing one scene in the whole series and its THAT shot of you riding your horse away from Caraxes. EPIC.
wtf was that episode? 2 years for this? Never mind the action, dragon battles and what not. I love a slow burn. Game of thrones barely had any action, but the dialogue and story telling was so good. What the hell happened to the writing for this season?! No wonder GRRM's jumping ship from the writers table for season 3. Clearly, y'all are writing a completely different story without his input. Also... Daemon eating his own mother out?! Seriously?
Agree. The Blacks and Daemon especially are just walking around. They're I don't know... waiting for the right time to start their ACTUAL plot lines. NEXT SEASON apparently))) The Greens are much more interesting. Can't imagine what would have been if Helena had her own story. I guess we'll find out in the next episode))) These episodes Jace seemed like the only black character who was actually doing something AND not dying))))
The river lords waking daemon is my favourite scene in hotd so far it just caught the feeling from the books for me! ❤
Cole parading Meleys' head through Kings Landing is truly the start of the end of the Targaryen reign. He showed the smallfolk that the Targaryen's are not all-powerful, that they can be defeated, in a way that only Dorne had previously known in Westeros. As they continue to lose dragons throughout this period, the Targaryen's will never be as powerful in Westeros as they were before this moment.
That only Dorne knew? Huh? Maegor literally killed Quicksilver when he was king riding Balerion.
oNlY dOrNe KnEw bro they’re not modern day China, information doesn’t just contained there lmao
Didn't Balerion die of old age during Viserys' reign? Did the smallfolk forget about that like they forgot about the coronation massacre?
I love seeing the lords playing the game. They need their armies and seeing Daemon get so confused that they’re not worshipping him. He needs to work on his people and negotiation skills.
Cole saying "TeraBull" like Jonah Hill's character mocking Aldis Snow's British accent. LoL
Elinda sneaking in to Kings Landing wearing a bright red opulent hooded coat was a really stupid choice. Look at how everyone else in kings landing is dressed. It’s like she’s screaming ‘ I’m team black/red ‘. This was a poor costume choice.
No commentary on Alyssa and Daemon?
riiiight!? lmao i was also waiting for some commentary 💀 how are they gonna put that in and not explain it
We don’t give Aemond’s actor enough credit for wearing an eyepatch in every scene. That would have me bumping into tables and shit for sure
Small folk: man, we can't fight targaryen, they are like gods with their dragons.
Cole: I (a normal human) killed a dragon!
Small folk: wait, we can kill them?! 👁️👁️
cole said that king Aegon killed that dragon.
This war may be won with dragons, but would also be lost by the smallfolk
The small folk kinda forgot about Meraxes, Quicksilver, and Arrax
Dragons died at hands of dragons what's new
the commoners ain't mad that Rhaenys and her dragon killed thousands of them during Aegon's coronation ????!!!!
😅
It would be different if they didn’t have meyles killing thousands of people but now it’s like they just don’t remember and hoping that watchers don’t remember either which kinda sucks cause how could I forget something like that 😂
What idiotic writing. The smallfolk are supposed to cheer for the death of the person responsible for the massacre at the dragon pit. I guess they kinda forgot about it ?
"Meleys the beloved dragon" ? "Harbinger of things to come"? LMAO
Nice fanfic bro
People forget easily , just look at current politics.
My biggest complaint with this season is them fucking with aemond and daemons characters. Aemond was not some shady fuck trying to steal his brother throne he was solid in that way. His downfall is being too young and headstrong believing too much in his and vaegar strength over anything else. Daemon also is solid in that regard. I don't think the writers fully grasp Daemons character. They treat him like he's some two faced power hungry bumbling idiot that can't manage any simple task. That's not him. Daemon during peace time is chaotic as is his restless nature. As most warriors are. He's never wanted to be king or the responsibility of it. He only ever wanted to be valued above other houses. As is his station and valyarian blood. It's his family he wants on top but he knows he's not the guy for it. Which is why he's fiercely loyal to Raeynera and Viscerys. His approach to all of this is by far better in the books and I'm starting to get annoyed with the constant missteps the writers keep making. This is George's fav Targaryen. You would think that would come with some responsibility to do his character justice. Even last season adding in him killing his wife? Why? Lol what purpose did that serve. Stupid and pointless. Book daemon is a grey character restless in peace time but the guy you want next to you in times of war. Who loves his family. Show daemon is an evil treacherous fuck with no loyalty to anyone and a bumbling idiot that can't manage the simplest task on his own. What the fuck happened!? He also easily subdues the riverlands and is completely unaffected by Alys rivers and harrenhal magic. Which i always thought was bad ass. Wish we got that and they expanded on that. Not write a bunch of bullshit out they ass to stretch shit out...
Jace is making wayy more moves and is running Diplomatic circles around the dumbfounded Daemon. Jace got the Starks, the Vale/Arryns, and the Frey's on their side and returned to Dragonstone with good news while Daemon is still wasting time at Harrenhal and the quarrels between the Blackwoods and Brackens.
“Meleys is beloved by the smallfolk of kings landing”? Did they see the hundreds of peasants killed in 1x09?
I'm confused why Aemond is suddenly more of a monster to Alicent than Aegon...Aegon is a r@pist and Alicent tells him he's "no son of mine" after he did it....I get Aemond can be ruled by his anger but he admits, to himself at least, that what happened with Luc was a mistake
Why does Rhaena grief off screen? Rhaenys was closest to her granddaughters
Yeh would’ve liked a bit more time with her
They have no time on slow scenes it will be their doom there a lot of scenes that are missing why we do not see anyone reaction only aftermath it is like with Jon telling he Targaryen and then they just cut Starks reaction .
ewan mitchell saying with great power comes great responsibility like a true spiderman fanboy 🤭
"The smallfolk kinda forgot about the time Meleys massacred dozens if not hundreds of them at the coronation. The ratcatchers, though? That was a true tragedy they won't forget anytime soon!"
Team Black production crew are really hitting the copium hard, huh?
i think u guys forgot u made rhaenys and meleys burst through the dragonpit, killing hundreds of smallfolk
He never answer Helaena was it worth it
Do the people not remember the coronation scene? They should be happy.
Tbh I think the writers understand they made a mistake and are trying to memory hole it lmfao
@@pastychong in my opinion it feels like the opposite, making the show worse with bad writing.
one man literally said he thought dragons were gods. imagine seeing your god die
@@weirdboi28yearsago
Meraxes was killed in the first dornish war.
Quicksilver was killed by Balerion during Maegor reing
Balerion died of old age.
This people already knew dragons could die.
@@franciscoramirez8588 the only form of history was in citadels or resided in the maesters, common people did not had knowledge of these, it was NOT common knowledge, for reference, about in 16-17th century europe (i think?) an street interview was conducted regarding common knowledge, different questions were asked but to give you an idea, a man was asked if he knew jesus christ, and his answer was "dont know and dont care as long as he's no customer of mine" so do you understand only internet made knowledge common? without it, within 50 years history would be forgotten, during the era of game of thrones ask the common people whoe aegon the conqueror was and see how many of them knew
Did Cole say that Sunfyre is dead? Because, spoilers, that would interfere in the end, which they make explicit reference to in the original series.
Since they loved to changed everything for thé black I doubt
@CloeC-u9t You do know that the books were written as a Green propagandists .In the world of westros Rhaenyra is not even considered a monarch even tho she was crowned and Ruled for 6 months. George himself said the books are unreliable and he wrote it that way
He said he's in a dying state. Cole is definitely no dragon expert so I don't really high value his words...
They are doing a good job foreshading.
i don’t understand how mysaria knows the ins and outs of king’slanding when she was imprisoned in dragonstone not a long time ago and is basically cut off from any past life and connections she might have there. how does she now the atmosphere amongst the people, or when (day, hour) alicent goes to the sept to pray?
also, sidenote: alicent, just take your own advice, do simply what is needed. nothing.
Did he just quote uncle Ben?! Lolol
I know damn well thats not Aemond Targaryen quoting Uncle Ben. Talkin about with Great Power comes great responsibility. :D
Brilliant episode.. with great lesson.
lesson learned. even episodes are good and odd episodes are boring. with that being said. i assume episode 6 will be great. (i kept this in mind so i wasnt too dissapointed that episode 5 was such a yawn fest) 😂.
The directors are doing a good job, but my god the writing SUCKS.
Ah yes, Meleys the beloved dragon who killed hundreds of people for "gurl boss moment". We could've had Sunfyre and Dreamfyre flying above King's Landing just like in the book and this sentence would've made at least sense. BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT WE GOT.
This is my favorite episode despite the controversial scene. Daemon and Aemond are mirror images of each other. The "scene" of his dream is simply a rendering of his great and terrible need for validation and the fact his mother played the lead role reinforces my opinion. Aemond is remorseless as is Daemon. They will both undo their respective causes. Lord Velaryon is growing on me. I always liked him. Self-made men are easy to admire but those devoted to their partners. I idolize. I feel for him, and I am eager for him to take vengeance.
team black forever, but aegon's "mummy" will forever make me detest alicent forever. yeah, he's a brat and is a no-good king, but still, he's still a son that needed his mom. and what did she do? she left him all alone. (also, seeing alicent trying to sit in aegon's sit, only to have aemond snatch it away from her was so dang satisfying)
The scream of Rheana screaming on dragon back do you think they’ve cut it?
Rhaena doesn't have a dragon. You mean Baela, on Moondancer.
This was a slow episode ngl , still some good dialogue and sequences
2:43 who decided to use that shocking stock sound lmao
We so GOT it back!
I felt so bored during this episode. I feel completely disconnected from the show now . I've known that story for years since i heard the lore of it . This is NOT what i imagined it would be. the low pace , the elongated scenes , the cruel lack of action and dragons. Where's the dance ? nowhere, only whispers and mediocre small council scenes 😞 you lost me , I tried, but now i can't anymore .
Fans deserve far better than this 😞
My first thought post episode was "god, I would look for a Stark name in those scrolls. 😅
I wonder if the Mysaria's actions will result in the ransack of the Dragon Pit?
Enough of daemon living this luigis haunted nightmare plot line .. guys been tripping balls for too long .. his poor dragon wants to see some action
So many people in the comments are taking the “Meleys is a beloved dragon” hilariously out of context. The rest of the sentence makes it clear that he’s referring to how Meleys was a symbol of the perceived invincibility of the dragons to the KL population, that is the point he is trying to make. Rhaenys’s bursting through the floor in season 1 does not contradict this. And the episode itself does not show people mourning Meleys, it just shows shock, which fits.
This isn’t at all a “Dany kinda forgot” moment, actually listen to what he says and stop trying to make it one.
She is the same person from eps 2. God
Just let Daemon out of Harrenhall, already!
The poor lad was forced to go down on his own mom thanks to Alys...
Aemond seems to me to be the best king to seat the throne in this series