I recently bought a 2013 Jetta after months of researching the TDI, and I just wanted to let you know your videos are amazing, and I am definitely thankful that someone is producing content like this. Please continue the good work.
Hi HumbleMechanic, I got a story for all TDI owner that you would not believe. Just recently I had HPFP failure on my 2013 Passat TDI about 2 months aprox 10,000 kms after the emissions fix. It was the classic failure glow plug lights flashing loosing power quickly to never start again. Searched on the internet and used VCDS to scan the car and confirmed that HPFP has failed. I called the dealership and they said HPFP and fuel system is covered under Emissions fix extended warranty (Canada). The only time it will not covered if they find fuel contamination.I thought I would be extra careful After I heard so much about VW finding an escape goat and not to covering things under Warranty. I drained the fuel tank (which I tested was 100% diesel) and there is no way I will miss fuel my TDI as this is my 3rd TDI. I remember filling up at the ESSO gas station and their was Sprinter guy waiting behind me to finish so that he can fill his tank. Anyways I emptied the tank using VCDS and running the pump. After that I went to another gas station and bought 23 liters of Diesel fuel in the can and dumped it in the tank. Cleaned the fuel filter reservoir and change the filter.Next day I Called VW road side assistance and had the vehicle to towed to the dealer. After couple of days I called the dealer as I had no update from them. The service advisor told me that they smell gas in my tank. I said there is no way and went to see the car. When the showed me the tank with fuel pump removed (under the rear seat), I told them how come it seems like its more than quarter of tank. They said that they had to top it up in order to troubleshoot. I asked them what kind of troubleshooting is this, that it needs more than 1/4 of tank. They insisted that it smell of petrol and it may be that I had put gas instead of diesel in the car. I told them that this car has filler neck to stop a gas nozzle from fueling the car. I asked them to do fuel analysis and let me know the results.I called them a couple of days later and the service rep told me that VW was coming to get fuel for analysis. After that I did not hear back from them. I called them again as its now approaching two weeks since they have my car in the shop and no rental was provided to me. They tell me that the service rep is not at her desk and they will get back to me. So finally at the end of day on Friday I call them again and ask to talk to the service rep and she told me that the car would not covered under warranty as it has contaminated fuel (petrol mixed with diesel). I told them that I need to talk to the service manager. When I talke dto him I had few basic questions for him. How did you come to the conclusion that the fuel is contaminated and why did your shop mechanic felt a need to add more fuel to the tank. I gave the car with 1/4 tank of fuel and now its past 1/2 tank. He had no answers for me and told me to talk to my Insurance company. I went and confronted him and still he had no answers. I asked for report on the fuel and he said they don't have any, all they know is that fuel is contaminated. I had my car towed to my home the same day and started documented everything. I did the fuel test with Styrofoam cup and found that it had petrol in it. I did the same test on original fuel that I had saved and no traces of petrol. I once again drained the fuel and refueled and sent it to different dealership and waiting on the response. I have video tapped everything on draining and drying the tank and then refueling with new diesel. Also have the Styrofoam tests on video.I'm so mad at VW dealership and will be brining out my story to the Media. Hopefully its only one bad dealer and not the VW itself. We will see... I will keep everyone posted.I keep on remembering the VW CEO statement, We have to build the trust again.. yeah right.
I've been considering a 'fixed' Dieselgate Passat. This story scares the out of me and makes me thing a hybrid might be a better alternative even though I really want the TDI. Sooooo sad! I hope you finally got your car repaired under warranty -- and then exposed this dealership to the universe!!!! This is a news story waiting to be told!!
My '15 Passat TDI had zero symptoms of a failing HPFP. No DTCs (p0087 low rail pressure, p0088 high rail pressure, p0191 pressure sensor range), no odd pump sounds, etc. However, did have nearly 210k miles on engine. On pulling my metering valve, I found one big piece of metal and just a few little specs of debris in the screens. So little debris that one Q-Tip was able to clean everything up. Replaced my HPFP two days later. Just thought it was odd that everything was working perfectly and yet.... caught it just in time.
Thank you for this video. You’ve explained this failure so good that even a child will understand. My mechanic told me I just had this failure - me not understanding cars that much, I googled stuff - this confirmed what the mechanic showed me. Fml though, still expensive to repair after all these years :/
Great video...any thoughts about the CP3 pump some have been retrofitting to TDIs as a way to get away from the issues from this pump? Or using aftermarket filters to protect fuel system components from a HPFP catastrophic failure?
I really like the video. As an owner of a vehicle that could suffer a HPFP failure at some point, It would be nice to learn more about how to prevent a problem, and ideally some assurance that this is not a VW design problem. Are these pumps failing due to no fault of the owner, and if so, why doesn’t VW do a recall to correct the issue. Also why is there no aftermarket solution to prevent pump failure from damaging so much of the system. Seems like a design problem that VW or someone should be able to fix.
Any thoughts on what owners can do to prevent this? I bought this car thinking it would was nearly bulletproof, now I feel like I've got a ticking time bomb. Should we be dosing diesel with cetane power service to lube the fuel system? Is there a specific pump that does better? I've noticed there are a few different SKU numbers for OEM pumps.... 03L130851AX vs. 03L130755A is there a preferred alternative?
i bought a new one from ebay seller in Perth about $1300 to fix my touareg 2008 3.0 tdi with 89k klms. all going great now but added stanadyne 2 micron kit plus moly additive every 2 tanks. good things in life are high maintenance
Your video just calm me ahahah, my low pressure failed, changed it and the car run but go straight in limp mode, glow plug flash in the dash and will start to stall after a drive around the block, so i think its the pump controller . Well made vid bud
Any gauge for the percentage of these pumps that fail? If a person was replacing their timing belt, would you recommend replacing the HPFP at the same time?
US failure rate for the CP4 in VW TDIs is supposedly 7% compared to Europe’s 1% failure rate. Some people have conjectured it’s due to the ultra low sulphur diesel sold in the US. Adding a lubricity modifier to your fuel may help (sulphur increases lubricity of diesel fuel, so adding something else in its stead should help - Hotshots EDT is a popular option). Rather than replacing with another CP4, it’s worth doing a CP3 conversion. The CP3 is extremely durable, does not have to be timed, and can flow a lot more fuel. Pumps + retrofit kits typically run around $1000, which is a bargain compared to the ~$5k cost of a CP4 failure.
I've been told that "Certified Used" post-Dieselgate TDIs have all had their fuel pumps replaced or that they're all under a new warranty. Do you know if this is true???
It's honestly better to take a car you are interested in and research the common failure and service due at miles. Take the cost of what those repair and wrap it in what you plan on spending. Because in the end a used vehicle has great appeal but the maintenance is the same as it was new. All used vehicle need something or another but in rare cases we'll documented service history of those service may be the vehicle for you. Just educate yourself because not all repair shops will be and you're money will be wasted without someone knowing what they are doing
@@haleywalkerc.9605 honestly, nothing that wasn't my fault. Everything has pretty much been a side effect of the wear it gets cus I live several miles offroad. Do your oil changes on time or really if you can. Get a fuel additive for lubricity to extend the life of the high pressure fuel pump. And make sure you change that fuel filter! If you have any other questions feel free to ask.
Have you worked or seen the Hyundai CRDI 2.0 diesel engines on 2016 Santa Fe ? I am getting code p1186 p0087 on a diesel engine, low fuel pressure, symptoms it stalls if u pass 60mph, I restart and it starts but won't go higher than 60-70mph, I replaced fuel filter, cleaned tank wasn't bad, changed rail sensor. Weird thing is whe. I replaced rail sensor it worked fine for few days, then started stalling again on higher speed or when I step on it, I had to accelerate slowly so it won't stall
Everything checks out good including internal high pressure pump plunger and lobes. Still no start. Im replacing pump and injectors anyways but i haven't found the problem yet
My Mk7 is coming up on 65,000. I'm the second owner, bought it at 22,000 on the clock. Minus a minor, ongoing parking sensor malfunction, the car has been perfect! What can I do to prevent this catastrophic fuel pump failure, and or detect if it's going to happen? Some people have been saying to replace the CP3 ($1,000?) now, just to be safe. I love this car and I want it to survive to 500,000 miles or more (if possible).
Hello sir, I have 10 renault dxi 240 trucks. Out of these 3 Renault dxi 240 cars have some problems. Startup is OK. But after 2-3 minutes after starting, the rpm does not exceed 1500 and the speed does not exceed 60. I don't understand what the problem is, please solve.
On checking low pressure fuel for one of these:what is lift pump pressure supposed to be? And, after aux pump before the hpfp? It seems simple to me, but the VAG procedure doesnt say much.
Damn good video. My car threw the glow plug light flashing and within about 1min she shut down. Towed it home and pulled the sensor to see lots of metal shavings. Also used vcds and there was zero high pressure showing while trying to crank.
Our 2013 Jetta TDI would not start this morning. P0087 code. Dropped it off at the dealer. Here's hoping they don't say it's bad grade diesel in it. Nothing but shell fuel for us.
yay finally you got them!, i know i pestered you a lot about these HPFP!. I remember that when these came out one of the problems was the shoddy US-style "euro diesel" that had very very low lubricity, the situation has improved i guess from 09(but euro diesel is still much abrasive than cheap diesel, cheap diesel has 500ppm sulphur, euro-diesel has 10ppm, and as you all know, sulphur is a lubricant).... Also, the design is shit, why does VW LOVE cam-operated pumps so much(other than to fleece customers) is beyond me, they're terrible!, look at the petrol pumps you showed that the follower and cam get eroded to destruction!, look at this!. In 2001, we had a 2L Citroen Xsara HDI, that thing was one of the first common rails(and very high pressure to boot), with piezo injectors and also used a Bosch pump that was fairly long, what's notable is that engine was designed to run on high sulphur diesel so we could fuel it with the cheapest stuff there was, it could also run on euro-diesel no problems. I don't know why didn't VW copied/licensed that pump design from PSA..... IIRC the Xsara pump had 3 cylinders, this one that VW uses is one cylinder only :S
i have a 2006 passat, dealer says camshaft worn out and it need a 3000 repair, i will work with an updated to fuel pressure pump since camshaft does not seem to be that bad to me.
Great Video!!! Have a question. Is It normal lisen a little sounds from the pump when i put in contact the car? The sounds continues while is in contact. Thanks
i have a 2012 VW Jetta TDI. Had a HPFP fail. I have replaced HPFP and most of the system. i primed the fuel system before starting. engine runs very good smooth for a TDI. but when on test drive it keeps setting the P0087 code. i have went back and check pressure sensor. and the fuel pressure regulator. both test good. checked wiring from regulator to ECM good. woiuld you have a ideal that i could test replace ?
failure comes from poor fuel, WATER KILLS A CP4 IN SECONDS, GAS kills it is seconds as well, and poor filtration! use ONLY VW filters... same thing for GM's with the duramax i have cut open alot of fuel filters and only one has had the water membrane in it which was OEM
Humble mechanic did they change this pump to a different pump in 2015? Should we replace it when I do the timing belt? I have 2 2015 tdi one Jetta one Passat also a 2014 tdi Jetta I'm now worried. Advise please
Thank you for the video! my pump failed at 138,922 miles in October 2015, on a 2010 Jetta sedan TDI, the dealer quote to repair was approximately $4000. The dealer called VW to see if they would repair it, "no". I called myself and "no" As in your video it is a hard stop warranty at 120,000 miles. The dealer has one or two more cars with the same failure. As for electrical, my trunk stopped working as well as the stock radio.
Hi, The diesel leak off pipe is keep on pushes out , the leak off non return valve works fine..but there is some kind of block that goes to the pump... Any idea ??
I have an 02 1.9 liter VW TDI and when I try to pull a vacuum on the return line of the injection pump no fuel will pull through all it does is create a suction and then will collapse my hoes. Is this supposed to happen or should fuel flow through the return freely when I connect a vacuum pump up to it to check my fuel system for clogs?
That's the baby version of the bosch set up in fords 6.7 powerstroke.that volume control valve on the pump looks identical to the one on the fords high pressure pump,except it's serviceable separately on the fords.and fords are the same it's always the valve that fails or catastrophic failure of the pump,usually some goof put def in the fuel.i bet you can imagine how expensive that gets really quick.
My 2012 Q7 TDI just experienced High Pressure Fuel Pump Failure. Car has been at Audi dealship 35 days!!!! They are blaming covid-19 for staff shortages. I am beginning to think they don't care because it's a warranty repair. They have me in a 2020 brand new loaner car. You would think they would want that back?! Funny part is, I diagnosed the problem for them because I am an avid Audi Blog reader and had heard about it. They said they weren't sure what was wrong with it, I sent them a summary of the fuel pump failure and they quickly responded with, yep that's the problem! I was driving along at 55mph when the engine just quit! Scary experience. My question is, how much actual labor hours are required to replace all the fuel system parts? As I mentioned they have had the car 35 days already.
If I only know that before my pump died , I notice more fuel consumption since I bought that car (compare to previous same VW Passat 2013 TDI what I have before) and the difference in mileage between the cars was almost 300km on full tank of diesel (my record on first car was 1350 km on full tank , compare to 1000 km on the second car) I learn the hard way about the failure of a high pressure pump , so now I end up with good looking car but totally not worthy of fixing because parts and labor cost big $$$$
I seem to have a FPR failing but see no metal on it. When I test it by powering it up, it won't actuate, won't click. Could I have algae growth binding it or is it metal from the HPFP that I'm not seeing?
presuming you use decent quality diesel and don't fuel with gasoline rather than diesel, is there a way to check the fuel pumps Health? to ensure you don't get a catastrophic failure? is it common practice to look inside the fuel pump for metal pieces?
Hey Charles, what is your view of some of the kits you can find to convert these TDI engines back to a CP3 pump? Is it worth the cost or can the same thing still happen?
I think they can be great. I don’t have enough personal experience to add other than it’s an option. The TDIClub folks seem to like it. They are a picky crew
Thanks for the video. Had this happen to my 2012 tdi sportwagen. Not mechanically inclined so I'd be paying to have it fixed. Now I've gotta get someone to buy it off me with this issue present
My 2010 Toureg HPFP just failed catastrophically with no apparent cause. I am finding multiple revisions 059-130-755-BC and 059-130-755-BT. The latest BT model has gone up $300!! Has there been any improvements that keeps this from happening again? anyone know the difference between a BC and a BT rev pump?
I have a 1.5 TDI in fuel pump area little dirt marks are there like diesel dirt how should I know my fuel pump is leaking also no codes my car is well maintained
I currently have a 2012 tdi and out of curiosity do you have to prime the fuel system with the vcds if you wanted to take just the valve off to inspect the hpfp for metal shavings?
do you know where the vacuume pipe off the fuel regulator goes to my car is a VW MK4 GOLF 1.6 16V AZD ENGINE. The previouss owner has bodged it up with 3 seperate bits of pipes and joined them together when i pulled the pipe off the regulator it also came off at the other end cant find where the other end goes. I have a missfire so checking for vacuume leaks tried spark plugs an coils and commpressions are good to also cleaned injectors still no change. Cheers man
Hi.. i having question on diesel fuel system... my diesel engine common rail pressure read up to 1000 bar during cranking.. and can hear high noise of knocking from my engine, after let it idle for 3 to 5 min, the CRP drop to normal idle reading 300 bar.. checked and replaced the new SCV, however the issue still persist... need your humble advice.. thanks..
Anyone that can help here. If I remove the 4 bolts holding in the follower spring etc. can I inspect this and safely refit it? Something in my hpfp ticks on revving but not on idle. I wonder if the follower/roller has worn at all. And would like to confirm before paying for a replacement pump
My 2020 Skoda Octavia suffered hp fuel pump failure and there are metal bits everywhere in the fuel system. No warning lights at all. Absolute garbage. Happened 1 month after warranty expired.
Just got a jetta tdi has 165000 miles, would you say if it was going to fail it would have already? I am going to pull the synoid tommorow fingers crossed, if its good ( which its not displaying symptoms) will an additive with more lubricity help..... love the channel!
In the movie Kelly's Heroes, one of the Tiger tanks has a problem with the fuel system. After all these years, German fuel system problems still exist! On my 2015 1.8 TSI, we had a camshaft recall and I expected a new camshaft because the recall mentioned Sintering and shaved off lobes. Yet I am now told that an ECU flash solved the problem. Are they being honest with me? Can you tell me why a flash makes a difference?
Is there any sound that can tell me i have issue with that pump? Coz i can hear electrical humming from 1000 to 2000rpm when I put the pedal on the floor and only when im in gear. I have 2013 audi a3 8v 2.0 tdi.
Major failure happened on my car and it took 2+ weeks, and it would have cost me 7k to 10k repair had it not been covered by VOA. Most cars have it covered under the 120k mile extended warranty.
I had this happen to mine 3wks ago, Ext warranty won't cover it at 130k, It's completely out of pocket, 7k to fix, well I'm not paying this, I am surrendering my car back to the bank I financed it through. It's their problem to deal with.
@@ElRojoDhablo666 I sold my car back to VW as they offered me 13k for it a very long while back. Never regretted that decision because no matter the fix they offered and warranty coverage it was a ticking time bomb waiting to happen. Although at the time they didn’t have the fix, so it was my only real option anyway. Lol
What about for a 2000 TDI? My Jetta has a sound that seems like power steering sound but the pitch of the whine does not change except by RPM and does not change when turning or braking. very hard to determine exactly where the noise is coming from but when i use stethoscope i still cant identify the source. definitely dont have the money you are referencing for repair or replacement so i really need to be sure before offer it for target practice in a machine gun shoot.
Not related to this but i have a 11 jetta se with transmission problems and it throw a whole bunch of failure codes. Is there anything that commonly goes wrong? Can it maybe be a diy to replace it i have a little experience working on cars but not a lot.
Hi im from SA i have a vw Cadddy that has no power and no fault codes i checked the vacuum all seems fine but it has no boost i replaced the turbo aswell but still no victory The exhaust is open The camshaft doesnt look worn Turbo is new No troble codes any ideas
Im going to try my luck and maybe you will reply to me... I have a Audi a4 b8 CAHA engine which uses this exact pump. The issue I am having is the car cranks but doesnt start.. Have checked codes with VCDS and its showing rail pressure too low and rail pressure too high.. Where to start on this? Should I replace the easy parts first, fuel pressure sensor, fuel filter, fuel sender, fuel regulator valve or should I go straight into replacing the fuel pump itself? If I remove the fuel regulator on top of the fuel pump do I have to release the pressure in the system first or can i just unbolt the sensor and pull it off to see whats inside? Thank you.
Hey mate, I have a question, when these are replaced with a reconditioned part, do they need to be activated or something done with their software? Ive just changed mine with a reconditioned one, the original just started failing it was making a loud clicking noise and I stopped using the car, no EML or glow plug lights came on, no loss of power or missfire, after i changed it with a reconditioned one flashing glow plug light and eml came on the code im getting is P0087- Fuel rail pressure too low, my question is do these need something done with the software so they work properly or is it just a defective pump? Thanks in advance
hey Charles I have an 09 jetta tdi and every once in a while a check engine light for low fuel rail pressure comes on, do you think the pump has failed or is it just a bad sensor?
+HumbleMechanic i've seen inside a duramax one that came apart, i wanna see if its the same thing with this pump, usually the Harding on the cam lobes fail and chew up the rollers. gets expensive quick, if ya don't mind!
Great video. I've always wanted to take one of those art but they've always been under core charge. Have you seen any of the new pumps that we've been putting in fail? I know they have a parts super session. If they haven't what's been done that's fixed the issue of them failing?
I think, the pump has no timing marks on it and you can not adjust the timing, because it is a common rail system. I did an engine rebuild on my 2.2 diesel nissan Xtrail and the pump had no timing marks on it and no info about it in the service manual. It just creates pressure to the rail and the pressure regulator regulates the pressure. Fortunally Nissan has it as replacement part -200€, but the manual has no word about it. The major cause is wear and caused by low fuel quality and ULSD. There are many debates about adding 2Stroke oil on the internet. I have a document from Bosch that they tested the pump with ULSD and caused major wear to HP pump parts. They recommended to improve lubrication of the diesel fuel, but with what, Bosch did not say. One diesel truck forum did a lab test about different additives to improve lubrication. The most cost effective was adding 200:1 of 2 stroke oil to the diesel. Some say that it caused/causes pump failures, but i do not believe that BS. I think using 2SO is like garlic to a man, i like garlic and my diesel engine likes 2SO. Runs smoother and hopefully prevents pump and injector wear.
My crdi (Hyundai Santa Fe diesel 2016) is throwing code p0087 p1186 Symptoms: stalls if I accelerate hard or if I speed up over 50mph when it happens I restart it and it fires right up on 2nd attempt. While idling I can rev it past 3k rpm no problem, but while driving it will stall if I go past 2k rpm or if I floor it it'll stall. I replaced fuel filter, fuel rail sensors, whats next ? Or how do I correctly diagnose it, or what do I look for in live data ?
My Hpfp just went out on my 2013 Sportwagen took it to Vw My warranty just expired 20 days prior They want 9grand. This is the first and last Vw I will ever Purchase.
i bought a cr170 audi a3 2.0, and if i rev the car or its under 1500rpm, i get a weird buzzing noise, my mechanic reckons its the regulator, is this true?
This is a completely overhyped problem. I work at an independent vw/audi shop. We sell tons of a3 and jettas with 2.0 tdi. Work on tons more. We have yet to see one failure. Most failure is caused from contaminated fuel. I.E. water, crap bio diesel, people even put gasoline in them.
I’m suffering w that problem. The dealer blames it on contaminated fuel. I am the sole driver of my vehicle only full diesel almost always at that one quick check in my area. The dealer needs to substantiate the contaminated fuel allegation before they void my warranty yet they’re refusing to! Wth is contaminated fuel????? I only fill diesel at the same quick check yet suffered and abrupt failure of my fuel system.
@@HumbleMechanic how can a dealer substantiate a fuel contamination allegation? I have a 2014 VW Jetta TDI that was part of the emissions fleet modified and resold by VW. I have that same exact problem yet the dealer is voiding the warranty under pretense of contaminated fuel. How could the contaminated fuel be adjudicated? Ie how do I know my fuel is really ‘contaminated’ n whether that contamination is what caused the fuel system failure? Please answer me. I’m stranded without a car for 3 months now. Bought that Jetta for $8k in 2019 now in 2022 it’s costing me as much to fix it! An abrupt failure on the Highway without warning out of nowhere!
Sooo by your logic just because YOU haven’t seen the problem that means it doesn’t exist? This happened to my 2010 Jetta TDi and I had to shell out $6,000 to fix it because I was sitting at 121,000 miles. In order to qualify for the DG Buyback I had to out of pocket this so the car arrived at the dealership under its own volition. This pump, the CP4 pump in Touareg TDi, the larger Bosch pump in the Ford 6.7L Powerstroke….from THAT era were known to catastrophic failure. It is VOLKSWAGONS story and excuse to NOT fix it and blame it on contaminated fuel. MY FUEL was GOOD but they flunked me because I didn’t have the filler neck mod, which ESSENTIALLY was VWs recallesque solution. Bbuuuuuttttt I always have my VWs serviced at the dealer…wwwhhhyyy didn’t they put it on my car. You’re right. Completely overhyped.
Greeting @HumbleMechanic !! I have a 2010 Jetta TDI that I bought new in December 2010. June 6, 2018, just 2 weeks ago, our car stalled coming to an intersection. It wouldn’t start again. Towed to dealership where they found metal in the fuel. They’re claiming the fuel failed the contamination test, and won’t cover it under the warranty we have for the fuel system. I’m so peeved… even have the last 3 receipts showing I used diesel fuel. (Also I’m not an idiot and have never mis-fueled my vehicle - I bought it BECAUSE of the diesel). How many miles would you estimate you could go on contaminated fuel before it dies? I was at 384 miles on that tank (im estimating I went through about 8.5 gallons).
Hello Charles . Am a taxi owner in north Greece I have a skoda tdi 1.6 2013 . I need spare parts for high pressure pump 03L 130755E..BUT I cant find ..I have just a small leak on belt......so I need just gasket
I have a mk7 tdi with 49,000 miles, i run kleen diesel additives usually every fillup, rn its the winter additive, i just replaced the fuel filter at 46,000 miles, hopefully that prevents this failure somewhat, i figure there is only so much i can do, any recomendations past this.
it's TOO expensive, it's stupid. should have been a recall, 100%. mine just went out, and i'm out 5 grand. for a jetta. not a lamborghini, not a fun performance upgrade.
I’m not sure now, but for many many years vw covered them all. Even if the car was mis fueled. I did tons of them. Only 1 and maybe 3 total in the shop were custom pay.
Dear Humblemechanic great video , subscribed!...I have question - is it safe to unbolt value to check metal contamination? What if is not contaminated ? If I'll put value back after checking do I need to bleed it or something? Is that way of checking safe for not contaminated hpfpump? Thanks in advance.
Dear Humblemechanic , I have checked pump and unfortunately its catastrophic failure. I have watched video and assume you are probably one of best person to ask. Unfortunately I am on other continent so cannot visit. I would like to ask advice. I have 1st gen CR eingine CBBB older Hpfp number start with 03L130755 number and it's that one which fails alot. Can I replace it with newer gen. 04L130755E ? Is it possible to fit it in CBBB ? Other questions is which parts are a MUST to be replaced ? Injectors and pump for sure.. is rails must be new as well , and is fuel tank need to be new? THANKS SO MUCH For all support and suggestions. Kindest regards .
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I recently bought a 2013 Jetta after months of researching the TDI, and I just wanted to let you know your videos are amazing, and I am definitely thankful that someone is producing content like this. Please continue the good work.
Hell yes. Thank you so much
Hi HumbleMechanic, I got a story for all TDI owner that you would not believe. Just recently I had HPFP failure on my 2013 Passat TDI about 2 months aprox 10,000 kms after the emissions fix. It was the classic failure glow plug lights flashing loosing power quickly to never start again. Searched on the internet and used VCDS to scan the car and confirmed that HPFP has failed. I called the dealership and they said HPFP and fuel system is covered under Emissions fix extended warranty (Canada). The only time it will not covered if they find fuel contamination.I thought I would be extra careful After I heard so much about VW finding an escape goat and not to covering things under Warranty. I drained the fuel tank (which I tested was 100% diesel) and there is no way I will miss fuel my TDI as this is my 3rd TDI. I remember filling up at the ESSO gas station and their was Sprinter guy waiting behind me to finish so that he can fill his tank. Anyways I emptied the tank using VCDS and running the pump. After that I went to another gas station and bought 23 liters of Diesel fuel in the can and dumped it in the tank. Cleaned the fuel filter reservoir and change the filter.Next day I Called VW road side assistance and had the vehicle to towed to the dealer. After couple of days I called the dealer as I had no update from them. The service advisor told me that they smell gas in my tank. I said there is no way and went to see the car. When the showed me the tank with fuel pump removed (under the rear seat), I told them how come it seems like its more than quarter of tank. They said that they had to top it up in order to troubleshoot. I asked them what kind of troubleshooting is this, that it needs more than 1/4 of tank. They insisted that it smell of petrol and it may be that I had put gas instead of diesel in the car. I told them that this car has filler neck to stop a gas nozzle from fueling the car. I asked them to do fuel analysis and let me know the results.I called them a couple of days later and the service rep told me that VW was coming to get fuel for analysis. After that I did not hear back from them. I called them again as its now approaching two weeks since they have my car in the shop and no rental was provided to me. They tell me that the service rep is not at her desk and they will get back to me. So finally at the end of day on Friday I call them again and ask to talk to the service rep and she told me that the car would not covered under warranty as it has contaminated fuel (petrol mixed with diesel). I told them that I need to talk to the service manager. When I talke dto him I had few basic questions for him. How did you come to the conclusion that the fuel is contaminated and why did your shop mechanic felt a need to add more fuel to the tank. I gave the car with 1/4 tank of fuel and now its past 1/2 tank. He had no answers for me and told me to talk to my Insurance company. I went and confronted him and still he had no answers. I asked for report on the fuel and he said they don't have any, all they know is that fuel is contaminated. I had my car towed to my home the same day and started documented everything. I did the fuel test with Styrofoam cup and found that it had petrol in it. I did the same test on original fuel that I had saved and no traces of petrol. I once again drained the fuel and refueled and sent it to different dealership and waiting on the response. I have video tapped everything on draining and drying the tank and then refueling with new diesel. Also have the Styrofoam tests on video.I'm so mad at VW dealership and will be brining out my story to the Media. Hopefully its only one bad dealer and not the VW itself. We will see... I will keep everyone posted.I keep on remembering the VW CEO statement, We have to build the trust again.. yeah right.
Keep us up to date on this
I've been considering a 'fixed' Dieselgate Passat. This story scares the out of me and makes me thing a hybrid might be a better alternative even though I really want the TDI. Sooooo sad! I hope you finally got your car repaired under warranty -- and then exposed this dealership to the universe!!!! This is a news story waiting to be told!!
How did it go with the 2nd dealership?
You post a novel like this and leave it with a cliffhanger? Can you give an update?
This poor guy got screwed
My '15 Passat TDI had zero symptoms of a failing HPFP. No DTCs (p0087 low rail pressure, p0088 high rail pressure, p0191 pressure sensor range), no odd pump sounds, etc. However, did have nearly 210k miles on engine. On pulling my metering valve, I found one big piece of metal and just a few little specs of debris in the screens. So little debris that one Q-Tip was able to clean everything up. Replaced my HPFP two days later.
Just thought it was odd that everything was working perfectly and yet.... caught it just in time.
You lucky mfcker
Thank you for this video. You’ve explained this failure so good that even a child will understand.
My mechanic told me I just had this failure - me not understanding cars that much, I googled stuff - this confirmed what the mechanic showed me.
Fml though, still expensive to repair after all these years :/
I am sure your mechanic did great bussness from you :)
Great video...any thoughts about the CP3 pump some have been retrofitting to TDIs as a way to get away from the issues from this pump? Or using aftermarket filters to protect fuel system components from a HPFP catastrophic failure?
yea.......
I wanna see a CP3 pump swap on a EA288 TDI.
I really like the video. As an owner of a vehicle that could suffer a HPFP failure at some point, It would be nice to learn more about how to prevent a problem, and ideally some assurance that this is not a VW design problem. Are these pumps failing due to no fault of the owner, and if so, why doesn’t VW do a recall to correct the issue. Also why is there no aftermarket solution to prevent pump failure from damaging so much of the system. Seems like a design problem that VW or someone should be able to fix.
What did u end up doing? My hpfp just failed
@@CK-ui2kb Same I think I am going to repair it :/
Any thoughts on what owners can do to prevent this? I bought this car thinking it would was nearly bulletproof, now I feel like I've got a ticking time bomb. Should we be dosing diesel with cetane power service to lube the fuel system? Is there a specific pump that does better? I've noticed there are a few different SKU numbers for OEM pumps.... 03L130851AX vs. 03L130755A is there a preferred alternative?
X means exchange (refurbished)
Price here in Australia is $2200 for the pump . crazy prices
i bought a new one from ebay seller in Perth about $1300 to fix my touareg 2008 3.0 tdi with 89k klms. all going great now but added stanadyne 2 micron kit plus moly additive every 2 tanks. good things in life are high maintenance
Your video just calm me ahahah, my low pressure failed, changed it and the car run but go straight in limp mode, glow plug flash in the dash and will start to stall after a drive around the block, so i think its the pump controller . Well made vid bud
800 bar? Did I hear that to right? That's like 11,600 psi.
+jgreenjeans
Yes. 2.0 Common Rail engines run 1800 bar on the rail. (Yes, 26,000 PSI).
Holy shiz! I was thinking the same thing
Any gauge for the percentage of these pumps that fail? If a person was replacing their timing belt, would you recommend replacing the HPFP at the same time?
US failure rate for the CP4 in VW TDIs is supposedly 7% compared to Europe’s 1% failure rate. Some people have conjectured it’s due to the ultra low sulphur diesel sold in the US. Adding a lubricity modifier to your fuel may help (sulphur increases lubricity of diesel fuel, so adding something else in its stead should help - Hotshots EDT is a popular option).
Rather than replacing with another CP4, it’s worth doing a CP3 conversion. The CP3 is extremely durable, does not have to be timed, and can flow a lot more fuel. Pumps + retrofit kits typically run around $1000, which is a bargain compared to the ~$5k cost of a CP4 failure.
I've been told that "Certified Used" post-Dieselgate TDIs have all had their fuel pumps replaced or that they're all under a new warranty. Do you know if this is true???
How to prevent it though? I'd love a used to tdi wagon but a several thousand dollar repair is enough to turn me away completely.
getting fuel from a quality gas/fuel station, adding some sort of fuel additive to give the fuel extra lubricity can help.
Switch to a Cp3 pump, but I’d say you’re more likely to have it never happen even though it happens too often.
The warranty on the TDI powertrain has been extended
It's honestly better to take a car you are interested in and research the common failure and service due at miles. Take the cost of what those repair and wrap it in what you plan on spending. Because in the end a used vehicle has great appeal but the maintenance is the same as it was new. All used vehicle need something or another but in rare cases we'll documented service history of those service may be the vehicle for you. Just educate yourself because not all repair shops will be and you're money will be wasted without someone knowing what they are doing
Just passed 375k on my original pump! I’m just discovering how much damage these can cause so I’m going to replace it right away!!
If you dont mind me asking what year is your tdi? Mine is a 14 and is close to 100k miles.
@@ShotGunner5609any problems yet? About to get a ‘16 with 160k miles …
@@haleywalkerc.9605 honestly, nothing that wasn't my fault. Everything has pretty much been a side effect of the wear it gets cus I live several miles offroad. Do your oil changes on time or really if you can. Get a fuel additive for lubricity to extend the life of the high pressure fuel pump. And make sure you change that fuel filter! If you have any other questions feel free to ask.
Great video Charles.
Oem filters only
Drain water separators often
Change filters at half the recommended intervals due to junk fuel you ARE getting
Have you worked or seen the Hyundai CRDI 2.0 diesel engines on 2016 Santa Fe ? I am getting code p1186 p0087 on a diesel engine, low fuel pressure, symptoms it stalls if u pass 60mph, I restart and it starts but won't go higher than 60-70mph, I replaced fuel filter, cleaned tank wasn't bad, changed rail sensor. Weird thing is whe. I replaced rail sensor it worked fine for few days, then started stalling again on higher speed or when I step on it, I had to accelerate slowly so it won't stall
Everything checks out good including internal high pressure pump plunger and lobes. Still no start. Im replacing pump and injectors anyways but i haven't found the problem yet
Hi, Is there any form of check valve or non return valve in the High Pressure pump anywhere?
My Mk7 is coming up on 65,000. I'm the second owner, bought it at 22,000 on the clock. Minus a minor, ongoing parking sensor malfunction, the car has been perfect!
What can I do to prevent this catastrophic fuel pump failure, and or detect if it's going to happen?
Some people have been saying to replace the CP3 ($1,000?) now, just to be safe.
I love this car and I want it to survive to 500,000 miles or more (if possible).
Hi, can you make a video for the 2005-2008 1.9L tdi?
Hello sir, I have 10 renault dxi 240 trucks. Out of these 3 Renault dxi 240 cars have some problems. Startup is OK. But after 2-3 minutes after starting, the rpm does not exceed 1500 and the speed does not exceed 60. I don't understand what the problem is, please solve.
Thanks for thorough explanation of failures!😊
Could you do a video on Diesel Particulate Filter for 2011 TDI . As im seeing a P0401 on my CEL
On checking low pressure fuel for one of these:what is lift pump pressure supposed to be? And, after aux pump before the hpfp? It seems simple to me, but the VAG procedure doesnt say much.
Damn good video. My car threw the glow plug light flashing and within about 1min she shut down. Towed it home and pulled the sensor to see lots of metal shavings. Also used vcds and there was zero high pressure showing while trying to crank.
Our 2013 Jetta TDI would not start this morning. P0087 code. Dropped it off at the dealer. Here's hoping they don't say it's bad grade diesel in it. Nothing but shell fuel for us.
yay finally you got them!, i know i pestered you a lot about these HPFP!.
I remember that when these came out one of the problems was the shoddy US-style "euro diesel" that had very very low lubricity, the situation has improved i guess from 09(but euro diesel is still much abrasive than cheap diesel, cheap diesel has 500ppm sulphur, euro-diesel has 10ppm, and as you all know, sulphur is a lubricant)....
Also, the design is shit, why does VW LOVE cam-operated pumps so much(other than to fleece customers) is beyond me, they're terrible!, look at the petrol pumps you showed that the follower and cam get eroded to destruction!, look at this!.
In 2001, we had a 2L Citroen Xsara HDI, that thing was one of the first common rails(and very high pressure to boot), with piezo injectors and also used a Bosch pump that was fairly long, what's notable is that engine was designed to run on high sulphur diesel so we could fuel it with the cheapest stuff there was, it could also run on euro-diesel no problems. I don't know why didn't VW copied/licensed that pump design from PSA..... IIRC the Xsara pump had 3 cylinders, this one that VW uses is one cylinder only :S
i have a 2006 passat, dealer says camshaft worn out and it need a 3000 repair, i will work with an updated to fuel pressure pump since camshaft does not seem to be that bad to me.
Great Video!!! Have a question. Is It normal lisen a little sounds from the pump when i put in contact the car? The sounds continues while is in contact. Thanks
i have a 2012 VW Jetta TDI. Had a HPFP fail. I have replaced HPFP and most of the system. i primed the fuel system before starting. engine runs very good smooth for a TDI. but when on test drive it keeps setting the P0087 code. i have went back and check pressure sensor. and the fuel pressure regulator. both test good. checked wiring from regulator to ECM good. woiuld you have a ideal that i could test replace ?
failure comes from poor fuel, WATER KILLS A CP4 IN SECONDS, GAS kills it is seconds as well, and poor filtration! use ONLY VW filters... same thing for GM's with the duramax i have cut open alot of fuel filters and only one has had the water membrane in it which was OEM
The OEM filter is made by Mann
Kevin Rogers winx filters are not good? Just replaced mine with an winx filter
The OEM filter is not made by Mann. It's made by Mahle
Humble mechanic did they change this pump to a different pump in 2015? Should we replace it when I do the timing belt? I have 2 2015 tdi one Jetta one Passat also a 2014 tdi Jetta I'm now worried. Advise please
Thank you for the video! my pump failed at 138,922 miles in October 2015, on a 2010 Jetta sedan TDI, the dealer quote to repair was approximately $4000. The dealer called VW to see if they would repair it, "no". I called myself and "no" As in your video it is a hard stop warranty at 120,000 miles. The dealer has one or two more cars with the same failure. As for electrical, my trunk stopped working as well as the stock radio.
please make a video on vw amarok 2.0 tdi engine rebuild or power loss.
Hi,
The diesel leak off pipe is keep on pushes out , the leak off non return valve works fine..but there is some kind of block that goes to the pump...
Any idea ??
I have an 02 1.9 liter VW TDI and when I try to pull a vacuum on the return line of the injection pump no fuel will pull through all it does is create a suction and then will collapse my hoes. Is this supposed to happen or should fuel flow through the return freely when I connect a vacuum pump up to it to check my fuel system for clogs?
Even my stars are aligned and i have had just a broken down vehichle of skoda yeti with water pump and and timing kit belt issues!
That's the baby version of the bosch set up in fords 6.7 powerstroke.that volume control valve on the pump looks identical to the one on the fords high pressure pump,except it's serviceable separately on the fords.and fords are the same it's always the valve that fails or catastrophic failure of the pump,usually some goof put def in the fuel.i bet you can imagine how expensive that gets really quick.
My 2012 Q7 TDI just experienced High Pressure Fuel Pump Failure. Car has been at Audi dealship 35 days!!!! They are blaming covid-19 for staff shortages. I am beginning to think they don't care because it's a warranty repair. They have me in a 2020 brand new loaner car. You would think they would want that back?! Funny part is, I diagnosed the problem for them because I am an avid Audi Blog reader and had heard about it. They said they weren't sure what was wrong with it, I sent them a summary of the fuel pump failure and they quickly responded with, yep that's the problem! I was driving along at 55mph when the engine just quit! Scary experience. My question is, how much actual labor hours are required to replace all the fuel system parts? As I mentioned they have had the car 35 days already.
I have a 2014 Volkswagen Jetta TDI is it bad for the high pressure fuel pump after changing the fuel filter to cycle the key on and off ?
Another symptom from experience is you will hear thumping coming from the back of the car and significant loss of MPG’s and fuel.
If I only know that before my pump died , I notice more fuel consumption since I bought that car (compare to previous same VW Passat 2013 TDI what I have before) and the difference in mileage between the cars was almost 300km on full tank of diesel (my record on first car was 1350 km on full tank , compare to 1000 km on the second car) I learn the hard way about the failure of a high pressure pump , so now I end up with good looking car but totally not worthy of fixing because parts and labor cost big $$$$
I seem to have a FPR failing but see no metal on it. When I test it by powering it up, it won't actuate, won't click. Could I have algae growth binding it or is it metal from the HPFP that I'm not seeing?
presuming you use decent quality diesel and don't fuel with gasoline rather than diesel, is there a way to check the fuel pumps Health? to ensure you don't get a catastrophic failure?
is it common practice to look inside the fuel pump for metal pieces?
You make great Videos ...Thank you for all your hard work and Time !
Hey Charles, what is your view of some of the kits you can find to convert these TDI engines back to a CP3 pump? Is it worth the cost or can the same thing still happen?
I think they can be great. I don’t have enough personal experience to add other than it’s an option. The TDIClub folks seem to like it. They are a picky crew
hello, would You shoot a similar video on the 2.0 125 kW PD fuel pump?
Thanks for the video. Had this happen to my 2012 tdi sportwagen.
Not mechanically inclined so I'd be paying to have it fixed.
Now I've gotta get someone to buy it off me with this issue present
What would be some additives that you could recommend to prevent an algae clot? I seen zmax
Is there always a check engine light?
My 2010 Toureg HPFP just failed catastrophically with no apparent cause. I am finding multiple revisions 059-130-755-BC and 059-130-755-BT. The latest BT model has gone up $300!! Has there been any improvements that keeps this from happening again? anyone know the difference between a BC and a BT rev pump?
I have a 1.5 TDI in fuel pump area little dirt marks are there like diesel dirt how should I know my fuel pump is leaking also no codes my car is well maintained
I currently have a 2012 tdi and out of curiosity do you have to prime the fuel system with the vcds if you wanted to take just the valve off to inspect the hpfp for metal shavings?
do you know where the vacuume pipe off the fuel regulator goes to my car is a VW MK4 GOLF 1.6 16V AZD ENGINE. The previouss owner has bodged it up with 3 seperate bits of pipes and joined them together when i pulled the pipe off the regulator it also came off at the other end cant find where the other end goes. I have a missfire so checking for vacuume leaks tried spark plugs an coils and commpressions are good to also cleaned injectors still no change. Cheers man
Hi.. i having question on diesel fuel system... my diesel engine common rail pressure read up to 1000 bar during cranking.. and can hear high noise of knocking from my engine, after let it idle for 3 to 5 min, the CRP drop to normal idle reading 300 bar.. checked and replaced the new SCV, however the issue still persist... need your humble advice.. thanks..
Anyone that can help here. If I remove the 4 bolts holding in the follower spring etc. can I inspect this and safely refit it? Something in my hpfp ticks on revving but not on idle. I wonder if the follower/roller has worn at all. And would like to confirm before paying for a replacement pump
Can a failed hpfp cause the lift pump in the tank to go bad?
My 2020 Skoda Octavia suffered hp fuel pump failure and there are metal bits everywhere in the fuel system. No warning lights at all. Absolute garbage. Happened 1 month after warranty expired.
Just got a jetta tdi has 165000 miles, would you say if it was going to fail it would have already? I am going to pull the synoid tommorow fingers crossed, if its good ( which its not displaying symptoms) will an additive with more lubricity help..... love the channel!
In the movie Kelly's Heroes, one of the Tiger tanks has a problem with the fuel system. After all these years, German fuel system problems still exist!
On my 2015 1.8 TSI, we had a camshaft recall and I expected a new camshaft because the recall mentioned Sintering and shaved off lobes. Yet I am now told that an ECU flash solved the problem. Are they being honest with me? Can you tell me why a flash makes a difference?
+Minnesnowtan just shot a quick vid about this exact question. Should be up later today.
Is there any sound that can tell me i have issue with that pump? Coz i can hear electrical humming from 1000 to 2000rpm when I put the pedal on the floor and only when im in gear. I have 2013 audi a3 8v 2.0 tdi.
I changed my water pump on my 2012 volkswagen cc sport and now I have a fuel leak any help would be greatly appreciated Thanks
Major failure happened on my car and it took 2+ weeks, and it would have cost me 7k to 10k repair had it not been covered by VOA. Most cars have it covered under the 120k mile extended warranty.
Hacky2447 Wonder if that’s the same now adays
I had this happen to mine 3wks ago, Ext warranty won't cover it at 130k, It's completely out of pocket, 7k to fix, well I'm not paying this, I am surrendering my car back to the bank I financed it through. It's their problem to deal with.
@@ElRojoDhablo666 I sold my car back to VW as they offered me 13k for it a very long while back. Never regretted that decision because no matter the fix they offered and warranty coverage it was a ticking time bomb waiting to happen. Although at the time they didn’t have the fix, so it was my only real option anyway. Lol
What about for a 2000 TDI? My Jetta has a sound that seems like power steering sound but the pitch of the whine does not change except by RPM and does not change when turning or braking.
very hard to determine exactly where the noise is coming from but when i use stethoscope i still cant identify the source. definitely dont have the money you are referencing for repair or replacement so i really need to be sure before offer it for target practice in a machine gun shoot.
I forget if the ALH has a clutch on the alternator pulley. If so those are good about failing
Not related to this but i have a 11 jetta se with transmission problems and it throw a whole bunch of failure codes. Is there anything that commonly goes wrong? Can it maybe be a diy to replace it i have a little experience working on cars but not a lot.
im needing to replace one on my 13 Cayenne Diesel. I can not find anything that shows how to remove the whole pump.Any suggestions?
No way to prevent it except a cp3 swap? just purchased a 30k mike 2012 golf cjaa tdi DSG and loving it.
After the first replacement they seem to have been great.
HumbleMechanic Ahh ok. just wanted to make sure, i plan to keep this thing as long as possible.
Hi im from SA i have a vw Cadddy that has no power and no fault codes i checked the vacuum all seems fine but it has no boost i replaced the turbo aswell but still no victory
The exhaust is open
The camshaft doesnt look worn
Turbo is new
No troble codes any ideas
Im going to try my luck and maybe you will reply to me... I have a Audi a4 b8 CAHA engine which uses this exact pump. The issue I am having is the car cranks but doesnt start.. Have checked codes with VCDS and its showing rail pressure too low and rail pressure too high.. Where to start on this? Should I replace the easy parts first, fuel pressure sensor, fuel filter, fuel sender, fuel regulator valve or should I go straight into replacing the fuel pump itself?
If I remove the fuel regulator on top of the fuel pump do I have to release the pressure in the system first or can i just unbolt the sensor and pull it off to see whats inside?
Thank you.
my mom has a 1.2TDI Polo bluemotion, is this also a problem with that engine?
Hey mate, I have a question, when these are replaced with a reconditioned part, do they need to be activated or something done with their software? Ive just changed mine with a reconditioned one, the original just started failing it was making a loud clicking noise and I stopped using the car, no EML or glow plug lights came on, no loss of power or missfire, after i changed it with a reconditioned one flashing glow plug light and eml came on the code im getting is P0087- Fuel rail pressure too low, my question is do these need something done with the software so they work properly or is it just a defective pump?
Thanks in advance
hey Charles I have an 09 jetta tdi and every once in a while a check engine light for low fuel rail pressure comes on, do you think the pump has failed or is it just a bad sensor?
I would lean more on the pump than the sensor. When they don't come apart they can randomly set due pressure faults.
HumbleMechanic do you think this is a problem i should worry about because it only happens like once every couple months then i just clear the code.
+sizeOVERstrength I would want to get it fixed. Id hate to see it go kaboom
+HumbleMechanic i've seen inside a duramax one that came apart, i wanna see if its the same thing with this pump, usually the Harding on the cam lobes fail and chew up the rollers. gets expensive quick, if ya don't mind!
Start with the filter and work from there I would say. Maybe it's due ?
Does a2006 tdi have a high pressure pump .thank you
yes, but a very different one from this
Most impressive review, very much aprechaiyte the know how :)
I sent you a message on fb and this was what happened to my touareg. There was no check engine light 😢😢😢.
Great job mate!
Great video. I've always wanted to take one of those art but they've always been under core charge. Have you seen any of the new pumps that we've been putting in fail? I know they have a parts super session. If they haven't what's been done that's fixed the issue of them failing?
I think, the pump has no timing marks on it and you can not adjust the timing, because it is a common rail system. I did an engine rebuild on my 2.2 diesel nissan Xtrail and the pump had no timing marks on it and no info about it in the service manual. It just creates pressure to the rail and the pressure regulator regulates the pressure.
Fortunally Nissan has it as replacement part -200€, but the manual has no word about it.
The major cause is wear and caused by low fuel quality and ULSD.
There are many debates about adding 2Stroke oil on the internet. I have a document from Bosch that they tested the pump with ULSD and caused major wear to HP pump parts. They recommended to improve lubrication of the diesel fuel, but with what, Bosch did not say.
One diesel truck forum did a lab test about different additives to improve lubrication.
The most cost effective was adding 200:1 of 2 stroke oil to the diesel.
Some say that it caused/causes pump failures, but i do not believe that BS.
I think using 2SO is like garlic to a man, i like garlic and my diesel engine likes 2SO. Runs smoother and hopefully prevents pump and injector wear.
I'm considering buying one of these, did you ever test this yourself? Do you think it helped or hindered?
My crdi (Hyundai Santa Fe diesel 2016) is throwing code p0087 p1186
Symptoms: stalls if I accelerate hard or if I speed up over 50mph when it happens I restart it and it fires right up on 2nd attempt. While idling I can rev it past 3k rpm no problem, but while driving it will stall if I go past 2k rpm or if I floor it it'll stall. I replaced fuel filter, fuel rail sensors, whats next ? Or how do I correctly diagnose it, or what do I look for in live data ?
My Hpfp just went out on my 2013 Sportwagen took it to Vw
My warranty just expired 20 days prior
They want 9grand. This is the first and last Vw I will ever Purchase.
What additive do you recommend for more diesel lubrication?
I use Amsoil diesel all-in-one additive
Would you diagnose the same way on any other vehicle make for high pressure fuel pumps?
A fuel pump failure leads to a $6000 bill? Another excellent reason to never buy a Volkswagen diesel, a ridiculously bad design
The CP4 pumps are used in several diesels, not just Volkswagens.
i bought a cr170 audi a3 2.0, and if i rev the car or its under 1500rpm, i get a weird buzzing noise, my mechanic reckons its the regulator, is this true?
This is a completely overhyped problem. I work at an independent vw/audi shop. We sell tons of a3 and jettas with 2.0 tdi. Work on tons more. We have yet to see one failure. Most failure is caused from contaminated fuel. I.E. water, crap bio diesel, people even put gasoline in them.
Today that’s very true. Back when this video was new, it was really common. We were doing 2-3 a week st the dealer. Most weren’t misfuel issues.
I’m suffering w that problem. The dealer blames it on contaminated fuel. I am the sole driver of my vehicle only full diesel almost always at that one quick check in my area. The dealer needs to substantiate the contaminated fuel allegation before they void my warranty yet they’re refusing to! Wth is contaminated fuel????? I only fill diesel at the same quick check yet suffered and abrupt failure of my fuel system.
@@HumbleMechanic how can a dealer substantiate a fuel contamination allegation? I have a 2014 VW Jetta TDI that was part of the emissions fleet modified and resold by VW. I have that same exact problem yet the dealer is voiding the warranty under pretense of contaminated fuel. How could the contaminated fuel be adjudicated? Ie how do I know my fuel is really ‘contaminated’ n whether that contamination is what caused the fuel system failure? Please answer me. I’m stranded without a car for 3 months now. Bought that Jetta for $8k in 2019 now in 2022 it’s costing me as much to fix it! An abrupt failure on the Highway without warning out of nowhere!
Sooo by your logic just because YOU haven’t seen the problem that means it doesn’t exist? This happened to my 2010 Jetta TDi and I had to shell out $6,000 to fix it because I was sitting at 121,000 miles. In order to qualify for the DG Buyback I had to out of pocket this so the car arrived at the dealership under its own volition. This pump, the CP4 pump in Touareg TDi, the larger Bosch pump in the Ford 6.7L Powerstroke….from THAT era were known to catastrophic failure. It is VOLKSWAGONS story and excuse to NOT fix it and blame it on contaminated fuel. MY FUEL was GOOD but they flunked me because I didn’t have the filler neck mod, which ESSENTIALLY was VWs recallesque solution. Bbuuuuuttttt I always have my VWs serviced at the dealer…wwwhhhyyy didn’t they put it on my car. You’re right. Completely overhyped.
1.6 tdi polo no power.. no engine light..?hope you will give me something to go on with😫😞
is that failure still happening on the MK7 EA288 engine (latest 2015 sold in the US) ?
No that engine didn’t have near the issues. But vw only used it one year.
I’m so glad this was asked I have a 15 tdi Passat
Hi would this be the same for the vw mk5 version as im having trouble fpr the last year trying to start my golf everytime !!???
Mk5 could be the exact same or very different depending on the year
I have this kind of error p229b00 and i dont know if i need to change whole pump or just a pump sensor. If someone could answer this would be cool
Well where is the list on what to replace.
Does this happen on all TDIs or just on the CR ones?
Just CR
Would you recommend any mk6 tdi used, they have the extended warranty 120k miles, been thinking of getting a tdi, but weary of this issue.
You can get a great value on a TDI right now
Greeting @HumbleMechanic !! I have a 2010 Jetta TDI that I bought new in December 2010. June 6, 2018, just 2 weeks ago, our car stalled coming to an intersection. It wouldn’t start again. Towed to dealership where they found metal in the fuel. They’re claiming the fuel failed the contamination test, and won’t cover it under the warranty we have for the fuel system. I’m so peeved… even have the last 3 receipts showing I used diesel fuel. (Also I’m not an idiot and have never mis-fueled my vehicle - I bought it BECAUSE of the diesel). How many miles would you estimate you could go on contaminated fuel before it dies? I was at 384 miles on that tank (im estimating I went through about 8.5 gallons).
Sue. You get nothing without fighting. Threaten them with media coverage.
Hello Charles . Am a taxi owner in north Greece I have a skoda tdi 1.6 2013 . I need spare parts for high pressure pump 03L 130755E..BUT I cant find ..I have just a small leak on belt......so I need just gasket
I have a mk7 tdi with 49,000 miles, i run kleen diesel additives usually every fillup, rn its the winter additive, i just replaced the fuel filter at 46,000 miles, hopefully that prevents this failure somewhat, i figure there is only so much i can do, any recomendations past this.
I think you hit it dead on. Do the maintenance, drive the car and enjoy.
it's TOO expensive, it's stupid. should have been a recall, 100%. mine just went out, and i'm out 5 grand. for a jetta. not a lamborghini, not a fun performance upgrade.
I’m not sure now, but for many many years vw covered them all. Even if the car was mis fueled. I did tons of them. Only 1 and maybe 3 total in the shop were custom pay.
why does the ceramic break?
I have 2016 tdi fault code 16113 fuel pressure to high, fuel filter ok low side ok all fuel sensors ok,what thoughts on this thanks.?
I think is more low fuel pressure like P0087 code issue.. but be careful..do more research
Thanks for the vid, Charles!
Will make the running judder & cut out aswell
Dear Humblemechanic great video , subscribed!...I have question
- is it safe to unbolt value to check metal contamination? What if is not contaminated ? If I'll put value back after checking do I need to bleed it or something? Is that way of checking safe for not contaminated hpfpump?
Thanks in advance.
Usually just bolting it back and you’re fine
@@HumbleMechanic thank You . You a star.
Dear Humblemechanic , I have checked pump and unfortunately its catastrophic failure. I have watched video and assume you are probably one of best person to ask. Unfortunately I am on other continent so cannot visit. I would like to ask advice.
I have 1st gen CR eingine CBBB older Hpfp number start with 03L130755 number and it's that one which fails alot. Can I replace it with newer gen. 04L130755E ? Is it possible to fit it in CBBB ? Other questions is which parts are a MUST to be replaced ? Injectors and pump for sure.. is rails must be new as well , and is fuel tank need to be new?
THANKS SO MUCH For all support and suggestions.
Kindest regards .