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But those are the inline 4s, not the V6s. The inline 4s are usually rock solid, except for certain years when they introduced new tech until they ironed out the issues. The V6s have been built in far less numbers. They never got the same reliability like the inline 4s.
I understand ordinary auto consumers not understanding what they are getting into with a modern diesel, but the farmer who didn't understand where to add DEF only has himself to blame. I mean come on...
I had a 2003 Jetta TDI Wagon. I never had any trouble with the engine. Ran great, got fantastic mileage. But, living in Michigan, the body rotted away from road salt after 17 years and only 150k miles. I finally bought a new car and donated the old girl to my local NPR station. I'm sure someone snapped it up at auction for the engine alone.
@@madrew2003 The Touareg is a much more complicated car than the Jetta too. The 1st gen Touareg (2002-2010) were even more trouble than the 2nd gen AFAIK.
I had a 2014 Jetta Sportwagen TDI with 140,000 miles on it. It was the last model year to not require DEF. Sadly, it got totalled in a deer strike in late 2022. As much as I liked how it drove after I got a Kerma ECM tune that left the emissions system intact (but did increase NOx emissions), it wasn't a particularly economical car despite 40-ish MPG on the highway. Between the higher cost of diesel fuel, expensive oil changes requiring hard-to-find 507 spec. oil, and an upcoming DPF replacement, any "savings" from the high fuel economy were more than wiped out. The DPF was going to cost $2,700 to replace if no other problems were found, and it's basically a wear part since regeneration cannot clear ash buildup in a DPF. I ended up getting a VCDS scanner/programmer so that I could diagnose problems myself and perform maintenance items like re-calibrating the DSG (direct-shift gearbox) when shifts started getting sloppy or if I had to program the system to accept any new component I was capable of replacing myself. A fuel filter change required a long checklist of items requiring a computer interface to bleed air from the common rail fuel injection system to avoid major, costly damage. Maintaining the car became a hobby, basically. A pricey, tedious, stress-inducing hobby. Diesel engines still have an economical applications in transportation and industry, but passenger cars isn't one of them imho, especially if you try to make the exhaust cleaner.
@@TradinTigerJohn Yup I hear you dude, I had a 2006 Jetta TDI. I did the same thing to that car in hopes of bettering the engine and fuel economy. Add a couple more grand to your $2700.00. I spent almost $4000.00 on that car in ONE SUMMER I do not miss that car at all. I will never own a Volkswagen Diesel again. If I would buy another Volkswagen it would be a GTI with a 6 Speed manual or a R32 even. The Diesels and the DSG sucks. I feel like I have been scammed. That's why I bought my 2000 Subaru Outback with 213,358 miles on it. That's the car I have wanted since I was 16. Got the TDI as a hand me down biggest mistake of my life. NEVER AGAIN. You couldn't of said it any better then you did. People laugh at me for saying I will never buy a Volkswagen again but that's just truth of it.
I was able to find 507 specification oil at my local Autozone. Yes, it was a little pricier, but I didn't mind. For me the Sportwagen was cheap to maintain, the only things I had to replace were brake pads, which for some reason wore out much faster in the back than in the front, but I did it myself, just like all the other maintenance on that vehicle. And brake pads are a wear item anyway. The only downside to VW is that the parts are more expensive than Chevy or Ford parts. Then again, GM has started discontinuing parts availability for their cars, so there is that. For example, I cannot find the front magnetorheological shocks for my 2013 Camaro ZL1 anywhere because GM doesn't stock them any more.
My 2004 vw jetta 1.9 manual, went 275k . Only had to do 1 piston after some questionable fuel. I got lucky. Most reliable car I ever had. Obviously, clutch and regular maintenance.
@@ChrisPatrick-q6k Yes, the 2006 (at least in North America) was one of the last 1.9 litre TDIs. It was the BRM engine. I had one and sold it, still in good shape, with 400k miles on it
I had one and I hated it. I now have a 2000 Subaru Outback with 213886 miles. I bought it at 213,358 miles on it. This Outback is so much better then that Volkswagen. I will never buy one again!
This version of Touaregs are known to leak at the oil cooler and coolant bypass on the top of the engine. I bet this is the case here and oil is making way its way down slowly after pooling first. Removing the intake is required. Not a super terrible job.
Yep. Only a matter of time before it happens. Putting plastic coolant parts in the "V" is just plain stupid. Only a matter of time before they crack and then leak. I had a '13 3.0 TDi (Cayenne) and it happened to me. Also the oil cooler gasket fails as you said. Messy job. Parts aren't that bad but labor rates can add up.
Sounds like the same problem like with Mercedes om642; oil cooler leaks. Material cost is like 50€/$, if you have someone to do the labour it will be not more than 250€/$. At the repair shop though minimum 2000€/$. 😁 nothing to throw the car away
I live in Ireland and we have diesels everywhere especially TDI’s as VW owns SEAT, Cupra, Skoda and Audi. TDI’s are generally very sturdy engines, the majority of which I’d say are 1.6 and 2.0 TDI’s.
I used to look forward to renting a 2 litre turbodiesel whenever I flew into Ireland but last November the car rental company gave me some Renault compact SUV with 1 litre 3 cylinder turbo petrol engine and said they were phasing out the diesels. Worst car I've ever driven and heavier on fuel than the 2 litre TDI.
I have a '15 Jetta 2.0 TDI (CVCA) 6spd. Same engine as you folks get in Ireland. Fantastic engines. Very reliable and super good on fuel !! 1000km a tank | 4.4L per 100km on the highways !!
A friend has a Passat tdi on an 2011 Donegal plate; thinking of swapping it for a '18 plate - I told him he'd be insane to do that ... (prices of '18 plate tdi's are insane around Dublin - €18k+ 😮😮😮) the '11 plate looks great - no bumps, scratches or dents .... looks the dog's danglies; an '18 plate with all the whistles & bells is just asking for trouble - hope he takes my advice and spends the cash saved on a big f*ck-off holiday to the Maldives.
I had a 2010 Jetta TDI, Volkswagen bought it back from me, that is a great story but I won't tell it here, I had 293,000 miles on that car when it was purchased back. I did all the maintenance fuel filters twice a year, oil at 5000, two timing belts and water pumps, two radiator flushes. I only put one exhaust back pressure valve in and a glow plug cylinder/pressure sensor. That car was so reliable it wasn't funny, not bad for 220 miles per day that it drove.
My 2013 tiguan 2.0 tdi i bought new .has 445k klm on it. Mostly service myself. Apart from obviously wear and tear items with this amount of klms on it has performed flawlessly.
Yeah the price was great but i dealt with the exact emissions issues the wizard describes. My ‘13 Passat TDI was a lot of car for the price but holy moly the repair costs made it almost twice as expensive as what i bought it for
My Dad had a 2013 TDI Sportwagen and it was the best car I've ever driven from a value perspective. Room for a whole lot of stuff if you fold the seats down, spacious for passengers, and insane fuel mileage both on the highway and in town. I drive a Jetta only because VW doesn't sell TDI wagons anymore - I'd own one if they did!
@@ulrichhavershim5529I dealt with them too... But they were under the diesel gate warranty and the dealer had to eat it ;). I would be severely pissed if I had to replace DPF filter, EGR etc. on my dime.
I got rid of a 6.7L Superduty. I used the truck for pulling a 25' travel trailer. I loved the power of the engine but the emissions system absolutely ate my lunch - I couldn't afford to keep it. People were telling me to delete the emissions stuff but the cost of doing that if I had been pulled over by the DOT would've bankrupted me.
the Touraegs have a great reputation for reliability and solid construction. i Have two TDI's 2013 golf and 2015 Passat love them both . Passat gets amazing gas mileage on the highway. I don't know of another vehicle you can drive 85-90MPH and get 40MPG. With a gas tank that can go 600-800 miles on a fill up.
AdBlue is not VW specific, it's the general term used in Europe for DEF. You can get it at a lot of gas stations in Europe and it will always say AdBlue.
I have a bag of adblue in my garage that I have to donate to someone as I now drive an EV. The 2020 Audi 40tdi seemed to suck more adblue than diesel and in the end the DPF error started coming on even though the dealership mechanics tried to fix it. I was glad I could pass it on...
My 2010 Touareg tdi never gave me trouble except for an Adblue heater and driveshaft carrier bearing. Fast, efficient, towed a 30ft camper getting 13 mpg. Still one of my favorite cars. Gave it up during the buyback.
They bought my 2012 back as well with 89k. Only issues were the DEF tank heater twice, DEF injectors fouled O2 sensors, HP fuel pump(technician error) and the ubiquitous VW blower fan failure.
i have 2014 Touareg, but with 3.6 VR6 gas engine. No issues so far, besides higher than usual oil consumption (I have to add quarter of oil every 3-4k miles). Very nice car to drive, I was looking to to replace with something newer and there is not much available on US market right now with similar driving experience, sturdiness and towing capability.
This is a pretty common thing with the VR6. No matter what it's in, it's the PCV that drinks it that sits inside the valve. Cover whenever you do a valve cover. Replacement/gasket they have kits now. They have better membranes and such for them. Pretty easy while you're in their job well almost always eliminate the issue. I own a. 2016 VR6 with 145k currently
2008 Golf Plus 1.9, the ancient PD-TDI straight from Wolfsburg. Couldn't be more happier with the engine and the body and even the dreaded DSG is still doing good. The only major failure in 16 years was the alternator - replacement cost almost a hundred euros. But then it was mostly easy country driving, summer only.
I am on my 2nd dieselgate TDI Touareg. I love them. Excellent vehicle, great towing, smooth ride. My first had a small oil leak between the bell housings. I had it for 4 years. It never got worse.
The engine is robust and very fuel-efficient. De-tune it for emissions, add EGR, an oxidizing catalyst, a DPF complete with temperature sensors and fuel injectors for regen, *two* (count 'em) reducing catalysts, assorted lambda sensors and pressure transducers, thermistors, and about a mile of wiring, sensors, vacuum hoses, bypass hoses, valves, solenoids, exhaust gas backpressure regulating servo-control butterfly valves, and about a gadzillion lines of code to control all of it, and you are lucky to make it to the next *dealership* on one tank of diesel.
@@TradinTigerJohn I have a Skoda Octavia 2.0 TDI(VW). It has all the emissions gear you mention and we average well over 50mpg and on a long run over 55. I've had it seven years with nil reliability problems. You are talking nonsense.
My 2016 3.6 (gas) version is built like a tank - only issue is they do go through brakes and tires a little faster than the average SUV. Many of these are still under the original 10 year 100k power train warranty. Only issue I have had is heater blower motor went out, but it was an easy fix
Diesel economy largely ceased to be a thing when diesel prices at the pump soared above regular gasoline. I say this as a former VW Rabbit and Peugeot 505 owner. Hybrid makes a lot more sense nowadays.
Unless you’re thinking about towing. Diesel SUVs are frequently bought for that. Hybrids not so much. Don’t buy on the price of diesel today. It can change a lot during your ownership.
We had a guy put def in his diesel 2022 silverado and said he realized it as soon as he did it but rsther than tow it to us he tried to drive it, turned a tow bill and flushing his fuel tank to rebuilding the fuel system. Then about 2 months later he did it again, this time he didnt try to start it thankfully. We suggested he might consider trading it on a gas model
I have a Diesel Range Rover with 3 L V6, year 2017. so far its been a very reliable ride for 120 000 miles, i add DEF myself regularly and never had a problem. Note: only highway miles.
I've had 4 VW Diesels. I currently have a mk7 Golf TDI and my wife has a 2014 Beetle TDI. Both are excellent cars. If the emissions stuff gives us trouble, we'll either fix or delete it, but I'm really not going to worry about it. 99% of the time, it's just get in and drive without worry. That Touareg would be really nice with a proper detail.
@@mattalki I have put 185k miles on my 2014 Passat. I commute 500 miles a week and I think that is part of what helps them run better. The sitting around and short drives I think are rougher.
As long as the regens get done and not interrupted all the time. They will go forever. Remember Volkswagen redesigned the 2.0 tdi with emissions system in mind. That's why you hear people delete a 2015 Jetta and the fuel mileage is the same. I love my '15 jetta TDI 6spd. Three years with it best car ever
Can relate to this one - I have a 2019 Audi A4 - with the 2.0 TDI engine. A while back it came up with a fault, AdBlue System Fault - No restart in 650 miles. It needed the tank / pump / module replaced (cost me over £2000 or $2600 USD to fix). Many people get the system coded out rather than replaced - car works fine, but is then technically illegal to drive on a public road (at least here in the UK)
It is technically illegal as your emissions don't match the V5 registration document any more. But then if it's a VW, it probably never did. But then again, it's almost impossible to detect deletion.
I worked for 40 years for the top heavy equipment maker in the world. Going from what is called TIER 4A to TIER 4 FINAL cost us $27K to add the afterburners that burn particulates. The benefit was almost negligible although the customer had to foot the bill. Imagine what it costs to repair it.
Na zdrowie Car Wizzard. Eastern Europe greets you. We have experience in improving the operation of these engines. We live in a time when dollars are worth more than customer satisfaction. but our experts are working on it. Best regards
I have a 2013 TDI Touareg that I bought used. It would rattle on startup when cold because the timing chain tensioners were broken. 😢Apparently it’s not uncommon for this model year. While the engine is out to replace the timing chain it’s getting so many other things that were worn out replaced: Exhaust manifolds Turbo Injectors Cat Valve guides DPF The turbo was leaking oil into the intake so everything from the EGR to the intake valves was coated in sooty oil. Hopefully when it’s back together it will be ready for a few more hundred thousand Km. Some parts are expensive and can be hard to get in NA though.
I have a 2014 Ford Fiesta SFE with 120,000 miles. I love the car and wish they still made them. I bought it new and have averaged 42 mpg. It's not a race car but it has enough power to do whatever I need it to do.
I bet VW added that system after the dieselgate, just to be able to sell these there. Most AdBlue cars seems to come with a longer door for the two caps for diesel and AdBlue.
I have a 2007 Skoda Octavia 1.9TDi Estate (I'm in England) and it's a absolutely brilliant car and I get excellent fuel milage out off it, my only issue I had was an oil leak caused by a crack in the plastic oil dipstick tube.
Just sold my mk6 Golf TDI with 315000 km last march...Great car, but past 200k km it became expensive to maintain....No more diesels for me...I replaced it with a Honda Civic Sport Touring Turbo (6SP Manual as well) that sips Petro Canada supreme 94, but gets 40 mpg all day long and drives superb!!!
I have a 1997 VW Passat TDI 5speed, only like 67k miles. I want to keep it till death 😁❤️ Love the car so much. Yes it’s had some quirks like door handles n stuff but really not bad. Tan leather, sunroof, awesome heat and AC great sound system. I mainly use Bluetooth or the factory 6 disc cd player that is mounted in the trunk. Most I’ve gotten was 53.1 mpg on a trip, usually average about 43-48 mpg. Forest green exterior. Fun to drive and does very well in the snow. Have a roof rack for my snowboard, and I’ve camped in back too
I have had 2 B5.5 passats, BHW, one was a wagon. Nice cars, Estados Unidos only got them 2 years and with BSM chains, not gears.04 and 05. And auto only, which would go bad too!
2012 Touareg TDI. 100k miles. I consistently use Liqui Moly diesel additives. I believe in this product. Compute 40 miles daily. 29 mpg’s. Will tow a house.
Great video. In March I purchased a 2013 Porsche Cayenne with this same engine. It was inspected pre-purchase and I love the vehicle. The fuel mileage is fantastic and watching people freak out when they see me putting diesel in a Porsche is priceless!
As a car enthusiast, I understand that a modern TDI will likely not save you any money, but I like the way they drive and the character of the vehicles and they seem to be generally more reliable than other European vehicles. I had a 2006 Jetta TDI as a commuter last year and I regret selling it. I will probably be looking for a mk6 SportWagen TDI in the near future to replace it
Nope, that would be the intercooled, direct injected turbo diesel engine in the 1st generation mazda6. That thing is mind blowingly awesome. I just hit 246,000 km in mine, and except for the solenoid on the fuel pump, which is a revised Nippondenso part and which I replaced myself in 2015, everything else on that engine is still from the factory. More responsive than the VW EA289 with higher top speed even though it has 2 HP less. I also owned the 2.0 EA289 TDI, so I know...
Various versions, ALH is mostly considered the best of the 1.9s. I have had 2, plus an AHU. I have 1 ALH currently, plus a BEW and a BRM. I also have a CVCA and a OM642 (early with double chain)
I have 3 TDI cars, 2009 jetta 1.9PD, 2013 jetta 2.0 dieselgate and 2016 Golf variant 2.0 post-dieselgate. Each engine a little different, all have been very good to me. The DGS6 transmission is one of the best available for any FWD car.
My 2015 2.0 TDI made it to 300k before I lost it in an accident. I used Pentosin Super performance with Lucas Stabilizer. Never had an issue with it. Original clutch and Turbo. Regular maintenance is the key.
I as a mechanic for about 20 years, I’ve always had a daily driver that i know is very reliable and simple to work on. Been daily driving a 1990 Silverado for about 15 years, everything is so self explanatory and easy to work on. Only thing i can think of and is still very easy is the power steering pump, just a bunch of bolts and need a puller
I had a 2011 VW Golf TDI 6 speed and I put a short shifter kit on it. My Dad owned a body shop, and I've driven every car there is, but that 2011 TDI is still my favorite car. Super fun to drive, very comfortable, and got 48-52 MPG on the highway. VW bought it back from me for $5500 more than it was worth as part of the dieselgate scandal, which really tore me up. I loved that car so much, but how could I possibly pass up such a great deal? I cried not because of any repair costs, but when I turned over the keys and took my check from the dealership. I had a 2014 Audi A6 TDI after that with a very similar 3.0L diesel V-6 to this Touareg, and I loved that car almost as much as the Golf, but the maintenance and repair bills were astronomical, so I sold it with 78k miles before it got even more expensive to own. I know all about gas and diesel engines, and it makes me sad that diesel exhaust is such horrible stuff that car makers can't make economic sense of producing them any more. I would buy another VW/Audi TDI in a heartbeat if it came from somebody who knew what they had and maintained it right. Thanks for another great video! I'd love to see and hear more about diesels in your shop.
I have a 2016 Touareg TDI I bought new as a dieselgate car. Agree with the general points of the video. The emissions equipment have been the only issues I’ve had. The car leaks a tiny amount of oil from the oil cooler which I bought parts for but it’s so small I haven’t bothered to fix it. It’s hard to justify selling the car because there are no SUVs that could replace it, the only SUVs that can tow 7700 lbs reliably these days are gigantic and won’t fit in my garage, and the X5/GLE/Q7 are filled with mild hybrid tech that will be horrendous to deal with post warranty. I have 50k Kms of emissions warranty left but have the emissions delete kit parts ready to go! I’m hoping to drive this thing to the ground
Agree with you, have diesel audi q7 here,the best vehicle I owned great for long trips, way more comfortable than Toyota i had, great towing, was pulling a car trailer like nothing through the mountains.
I have a 12 diesel-gate Touareg and it’s been great. Excellent mileage and tows like a beast. Parts are cheap and I over maintain it. Was cheap to buy and I fully understand it’s likely a throw away vehicle if the engine pukes but. With new tow vehicles costing north of 50k, take a chance and repair awhile.
We use our 2011 Touareg to tow an enclosed trailer hauling our H-Prod GTI to SCCA events. Couldn't touch any pickups capable of the same towing capacity; prices are insane. As the video speaks to, we knew what we'd be getting into with it. It remains stock without a tune or delete. Have chatted up several TDI owners (VW, Audi and Porsche versions) who have been pretty consistent in opinion. Don't delete until the emissions crap out.
I have a 2013 TDI Touareg that I bought used. It would rattle on startup when cold because the timing chain tensioners were broken. 😢Apparently it’s not uncommon for this model year. While the engine is out to replace the timing chain it’s getting so many other things that were worn out replaced: Exhaust manifolds Turbo Injectors Cat Valve guides DPF The turbo was leaking oil into the intake so everything from the EGR to the intake valves was coated in sooty oil. Hopefully when it’s back together it will be ready for a few more hundred thousand Km. Some parts are expensive and can be hard to get in NA though. Same engine and platform as the TDI Cayenne without the absurd interior and a bit cheaper.
People who own TDI Touaregs in USA love them to death and almost never wanna get rid of them. They'll spend all kinds of $ to fix them, see it al the time at my dealer
I was getting close to 1200km (750 miles) per tank with my Jetta when I had it. Sure the oil changes cost a bit more, repairs cost a bit more, but I saved a TON of money in the long run on my commute to work at the time. Cheap diesel, cheap insurance, it wasn't that bad. When the turbo let go they wanted 5 grand to replace it and at the time I didn't think it was worth it. If I could go back I would 100% have done the repair and simply kept the car.
Had an 09 Jetta TDI with 189K when I ended up totaling the car. Ran great and only major money I had to put it was a DMF to SMF swap when the 6 speed clutch went, timing belt at 100k, several glow plugs went bad. Axle replaced due to not catching torn boots. I was in on the recall and fortunately for me I was able to sell it back rather then have the emissions junk added. Really miss that TDI
I had a 2011 Jetta TDI. Before adblue, and before the emissions scandal. You need to tell folks to check the ash load with a scan tool. If the DPF is clogging, it was $4000 to replace (before VW was buying the cars back)
The emissions is why the 7.3 is the king of diesel trucks in states with inspections. Where I live, the 6.7 is considered very reliable after deleting it all. But we don’t have inspections.
So true, the closest the 7.3L Powerstroke gets to having emissions equipment is the crankcase vent. The Navistar T444E used a road draft tube. The 7.3 Powertroke eats its own oil vapor.
I have a 2015 jetta tdi 6spd. My advice to anyone that wants to buy a diesel vehicle with def and dpf. Do not skip / interrupt REGENS. Ive had my jetta for over three years. Only been to the shop for timing belts and brakes. They are great cars and mine has 6spd manual. Super fun and very torquey car and i get 900km tank !
Probably the best ENGINES every made by VW were the 1.6l ( normally aspirated and the Turbo) to 1.9l inline 4 cylinder. They first appeared in the WESTMORELAND PA factory from 1981 for the NP, and turbo jetta was made in Germany. Super simple to work on and both of mine has 300k miles when i had to sell them. The single biggest issue was the glow plug set up. When WV redesigned the engine thats when everything went to crap.
I have one of these a 2010, with the DEF and DPF at 160k miles no issues, car has been great and the dpf and def system wasn’t broken but I deleted all that system now it’s reliable as it will ever be. I get around 35-38 mpg now after the delete and were so happy with it. If you have one of these, get rid of all the emissions garbage and it’ll run for ever.
We love our 2011. It was a buy back from VW from dieselgate and had the modifications done by them. The VW dieselgate work on these vehicles covers the emissions system and anything connecting to it for an extended period as well as free ad blue. These are incredible vehicles but they are 100% designed around the owner bringing it to the dealer for absolutely everything except putting in fuel so they don't care how hard it is for owners to maintain. When I was towing once, which these things are incredible at, the DEF empty range went from an estimated 500 mi to nothing in like 50 mi and I had to find the first truck stop and refill with overpriced DEF. It will absolutely shut down on you if it runs out. Another thing you didn't go over but illustrates how hard these things are to work on is the battery. It is enormous and the size of batteries I used to use in oilfield equipment. Like double the size of a normal vehicle so you can start it in sub zero temperatures. It is under the driver seat. The driver seat has to be completely removed to drag that monster out of there. The all wheel drive system is incredible. It's like you said though, it is hard to sleep at night thinking about all the emissions junk or worse if you have to replace the timing chain and tensioners.
You can do the battery by just tilting the seat out of the way. I assure you I didn’t pull my seat when I did mine. Just unbolted it and tilted it out of the way. Don’t forget your triple square sockets!
@@dipren443 No you don't have to totally remove the seat from the vehicle after you unbolt it. Still it is not what I would consider extremely accessible. I definitely learned about triple squares and ordered a set for this vehicle!
@@douglasb.1203 great point about the battery life. The oem battery in mine lasted about 8 years in Florida. I know Mercedes uses a similar location on the ML and its successor. As long as I don’t have to replace it often, I don’t see this as a big deal. 👍
The answer is it depends on the tdi I live in europe and had a 2016 vw caddy 2.0tdi as a company van and i can tell you that it was the best vehicle I've had in all my time working in logistics. It covered over 600k miles in its tenure at the company, most of them done by me, it was beat on relentlessly and it never let me stranded. Tried to buy it at the end of its life at the company but wasn't successful, much to my sadness. It was replaced by a ford transit connect which took all of 2 weeks to leave me on the side of the road
Covered by the Federal Emissions warranty for up to 8 years and 80,000 miles. California Emissions warranty is longer. They work a lot longer if you leave it stock, keep the EGR system clean, use quality DPF, and don't try to defeat the regen cycles.
I bought a Q7 tdi just after the pandemic started, 137,000 kms for 11,500 Canadian with an almost full dieselgate warranty. In that time, Engine out reseal, new DPF, EGR cooler X2. Injector 3 & 5 replaced, 3rd EGR cooler and when I was to get it back, They got a code for low fuel rail pressure so literally got a whole new fuel system. Diesel touched it, They replaced it except the tank It got flushed. 40,000 KMs later my DPF died with no warranty left. I took it to a VW dealer who did a darkside delete and tunezilla stage 1. You read that right. A VW dealer did the work deleting stuff. car runs great now.
In some cities here in the uk if you want to drive into the city in an older diesel without a DPF or adblue it will cost a daily charge. Diesel days are numbered here, at least for the private driver.
As soon as you lowered the vehicle and mentioned the emissions, I knew you were going to talk about the rear tank. The main complaint I have about the SUV. Other than that, mine has treated me well
Not to mention there are alot of shops not 100% familiar with vw tdi engines and electronics I just had my 2014 tdi in 2 different shops for over a month it was dying as soon as you released the brake. Needless to say it was a $14 boost pressure sensor. Was not putting up a check engine light or any kind of code so they could not figure out the issue
DEF (diesel exhaust fluid) and Add Blue additives are 90% to 95% water. The active ingredient, urea, is only a tiny component of the liquid. Both can and will freeze in winter weather. Part of the wiring and plumbing around the injection system and storage tank are heaters to prevent freezing or to quickly thaw it out if it does freeze. Big trucks use it now and truck stops in colder climates have an awful time trying to keep their DEF pumps, lines and tanks from freezing during winter weather.
adblue/DEF fluid is not what destroys your car, it is the DEF crystallising when exposed to air, so do not "open" the fuel system until you are fully prepared. you get 10 - 20 minutes to clean out any "open" part, so do not start stripping it until you have crates of brake cleaner at hand to flush it clean, very, very, quickly. done loads, saved a lot of money for customers
My first Jetta TDI 2002, was awesome... Put 350K miles on it with minimal issues. Purchased a 2012 Passat, and it was a POS....... Def system issue, and two turbos went out..... sold it and will never own another one.
The CKRA engine in those is a stinker and notorious for those issues and also clogging the heater core with sludge from overheated coolant sitting in the EGR cooler. The earlier CBEA and the later engine in the 2015 are significantly more reliable.
Had a 2nd Generation (7P; 2010-2018) 3.0 V6 TSI 4Motion Black Edition 5dr Tip Auto from new in 2015. Look after it and it’s a great car, but avoid the panoramic roof as they fail whether used or not, and replacements are over £3000 a time. I’ve had two in 9 years.
One of the biggest problems with the smog diesels is too much idle time. Run them hard, tow, haul, make the EGTs high, it really helps. I tow a 19,600 pound fifth wheel, and my dually very rarely idles.
I run a small private taxi company have a 2020 vw caravelle 2.0 tdi now at 650tkm first ting what i did after i boght the car new cut out all emissions fro it no dpf no cats no adblue. And in 650tkm no serius brekedowns. But all chepion is 2.5tdi models till 2007y 2-3mill easy and almost no emisions just standart cat delite.
In the mid 90s, Diesel fuel was hailed as the future in UK and Europe. Everyone was buying diesel. Better fuel economy and they last forever. Then they noticed the dreadful air quality in big cities. 🤔 the EU then began to take action. Emissions standards requiring all sorts of complex systems which may or may not work, ramping up each year. EGR being a prime example. Re burn the crap your engine has produced. In the case of diesel, mixing dry soot with fuel oil, what could go wrong. Unfortunately many manufacturers, VW being a prime example, fitted cheat software, making it appear in test conditions that emissions were low when in fact they weren’t. Many people probably still suffered from the emissions and perfectly efficient diesel cars were ruined. 🤔 So diesel power is effectively dead ☠️
With the emission standards in Germany and as a aftermath of the diesel gate, the Egr rate is 75%, which causes the intake, the Egr and also the combination chambers to carbon up, which causes more damage. Injectors popping, dpf going bad, even while engine failures. Don't know what it's like in the USA, but the last mandatory software update pretty much ruined most diesel vehicles in Germany. And the customer won't get any refund, nothing. There's been no information about those issues. People find out themselves when their cars begin to stutter.
Lots of people in the UK are deleting the EGR and SCR for these exact reasons. The EGR coolers choke up every 20k miles and there's nothing you can do to prevent it. The SCR system is hopelessly unreliable.
Very good advice Wizard! Another channel I follow, the guy had a newer F250 with the 6.7 Power Stroke. He was towing a trailer on a road trip when all of sudden the truck went into limp mode. Come to find out the high pressure fuel pump let go. When that happens shrapnel is sent throughout the entire fuel system. The entire fuel system had to be replaced. He was 1200 miles from home, ahead to have it towed back. $ He had a friend who owns a deisel repair shop that fixed it for him. It was well over $10,000. If he would have taken it to the dealer it would have been over $15,000. The Mechanic told him that can happen to all of the Deisel trucks. Ford, Chevy, Ram. After he got it fixed he sold it and got a gas powered truck. Newer Deisel vehicles? HELL NO!!!
I’m definitely going to reference this for a video I’m making on my channel about why my f350 welding truck is the gas 6.2 and not the 6.7 power stroke.
Best vehicle I've ever owned about ready to turn 200k. Is it cheap to repair? No. This platform is the Audi Q7, Lamborghini Urus, Bentley Bentayga, and Porsche Cayenne. Go figure on replacements being pricey. That being said: reliable, powerful, economical, and fast. Best vehicle ever owned bar none. Side note: a lot of comments about the Jetta/Golf TDI 1.9. Why?
Another side note. DEF ( urea and water ) freezes just like water so these vehicles also need a complete electrical heating system to keep it thawed out. Tank , lines , pump , filter housing, So if any of these heating elements fail the computer knows and puts you on the side of the road also. Even in the heat of summer !
I am both a Mark six in a Mark 7 TDI. They’re the best cars I’ve ever owned. I removed my DPF and put it downpipe in a tune and now I have over 380 foot pounds of torque in about 215 hp. Still get high 40s MPG. Great commute!
Another thing to be concerned with on newer diesel VW's is lot rot. A lot of them sat around for a couple of years before the agreed upon fix for dieselgate was placed on the vehicle. On my lease it caused relay's and sensors to fail. Also expensive. Declined to purchase due to it.
I live in France and I got the same car with the same wheels. Same engine. I can barely do 800 km/500 mi with a 80L tank. Not so fuel efficient but very powerful engine on the road. Very comfortable on long trip. Here in Europe it's not so expensive to maintain them since the car parts are cheap.
My '11 Volvo V70 D5 runs perfectly fine after 210k miles. The DPF is working great, no issues. It's a non-DEF engine so no issues there either. Too bad Volvo never offered their newer 5-cylinder diesels in America.
I have been driving fiat diesel multijet cars for years. Top engine if you drive a lot on the highway. You will only have problems if you drive a lot of short distances around town. Then the problems start with the DPF filter, EGR valve, etc.
TDIs are great so long as you keep up on maintenance. They all have well documented issues so nothing is unexpected and fixes are out there. I have a 2012 A3 TDI and the only real issue I had (aside from incompetent dealer techs) was the high pressure fuel pump failing which was covered under warranty. It has 120k miles on it and doesn't miss a beat.
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The early 2000's tdis are considered one of the most reliable engines ever to exist here in europe
But those are the inline 4s, not the V6s. The inline 4s are usually rock solid, except for certain years when they introduced new tech until they ironed out the issues. The V6s have been built in far less numbers. They never got the same reliability like the inline 4s.
🤣👌🏻 good one
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True. Those have been installed even in small aircrafts.
It is good engine indeed. however Alfa/Fiat 1,9/2.0 JTD is better
Putting the wrong fluid in the wrong hole can get you into serious child support issues as well. Very expensive.
Excellent advice!
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This belongs on comment awards
No right fluid in the right hole it was the wrong ho.
I saved a ton on Child support by switching to condoms.
I understand ordinary auto consumers not understanding what they are getting into with a modern diesel, but the farmer who didn't understand where to add DEF only has himself to blame. I mean come on...
Oh it happens in airplanes too!!!
Nothing wrong with modern diesels, just use them as you should and not for short trips around town idling around 1500 rpm.
I had a 2003 Jetta TDI Wagon. I never had any trouble with the engine. Ran great, got fantastic mileage. But, living in Michigan, the body rotted away from road salt after 17 years and only 150k miles. I finally bought a new car and donated the old girl to my local NPR station. I'm sure someone snapped it up at auction for the engine alone.
yea the older ones are great cars until 2010 when they started using def and a garbage hpfp
2003 has less emissions equipment on it. The more modern, the more problems.
@@madrew2003 The Touareg is a much more complicated car than the Jetta too. The 1st gen Touareg (2002-2010) were even more trouble than the 2nd gen AFAIK.
My VW also rotted away from Minnesota salt.
I had a 2014 Jetta Sportwagen TDI with 140,000 miles on it. It was the last model year to not require DEF. Sadly, it got totalled in a deer strike in late 2022. As much as I liked how it drove after I got a Kerma ECM tune that left the emissions system intact (but did increase NOx emissions), it wasn't a particularly economical car despite 40-ish MPG on the highway. Between the higher cost of diesel fuel, expensive oil changes requiring hard-to-find 507 spec. oil, and an upcoming DPF replacement, any "savings" from the high fuel economy were more than wiped out. The DPF was going to cost $2,700 to replace if no other problems were found, and it's basically a wear part since regeneration cannot clear ash buildup in a DPF. I ended up getting a VCDS scanner/programmer so that I could diagnose problems myself and perform maintenance items like re-calibrating the DSG (direct-shift gearbox) when shifts started getting sloppy or if I had to program the system to accept any new component I was capable of replacing myself. A fuel filter change required a long checklist of items requiring a computer interface to bleed air from the common rail fuel injection system to avoid major, costly damage. Maintaining the car became a hobby, basically. A pricey, tedious, stress-inducing hobby. Diesel engines still have an economical applications in transportation and industry, but passenger cars isn't one of them imho, especially if you try to make the exhaust cleaner.
@@TradinTigerJohn Yup I hear you dude, I had a 2006 Jetta TDI. I did the same thing to that car in hopes of bettering the engine and fuel economy. Add a couple more grand to your $2700.00. I spent almost $4000.00 on that car in ONE SUMMER I do not miss that car at all. I will never own a Volkswagen Diesel again. If I would buy another Volkswagen it would be a GTI with a 6 Speed manual or a R32 even. The Diesels and the DSG sucks. I feel like I have been scammed. That's why I bought my 2000 Subaru Outback with 213,358 miles on it. That's the car I have wanted since I was 16. Got the TDI as a hand me down biggest mistake of my life. NEVER AGAIN. You couldn't of said it any better then you did. People laugh at me for saying I will never buy a Volkswagen again but that's just truth of it.
@@Outback69 Subaru transmissions are not very reliable.
I was able to find 507 specification oil at my local Autozone. Yes, it was a little pricier, but I didn't mind. For me the Sportwagen was cheap to maintain, the only things I had to replace were brake pads, which for some reason wore out much faster in the back than in the front, but I did it myself, just like all the other maintenance on that vehicle. And brake pads are a wear item anyway. The only downside to VW is that the parts are more expensive than Chevy or Ford parts. Then again, GM has started discontinuing parts availability for their cars, so there is that. For example, I cannot find the front magnetorheological shocks for my 2013 Camaro ZL1 anywhere because GM doesn't stock them any more.
@@mrbmd710 I know... They are made of glass from what I hear.
My 2004 vw jetta 1.9 manual, went 275k . Only had to do 1 piston after some questionable fuel. I got lucky. Most reliable car I ever had. Obviously, clutch and regular maintenance.
I drive a 2006 Jetta TDI with 350k miles. Awesome car.
@@ChrisPatrick-q6k Yes, the 2006 (at least in North America) was one of the last 1.9 litre TDIs. It was the BRM engine. I had one and sold it, still in good shape, with 400k miles on it
I had one and I hated it. I now have a 2000 Subaru Outback with 213886 miles. I bought it at 213,358 miles on it. This Outback is so much better then that Volkswagen. I will never buy one again!
@@ChrisPatrick-q6k Yes, 1.9L BRM. They eat cam shafts once in a while but are pre-dpf abd run forever.
@@Outback69 Enjoy your head gasket replacements in the Subaru! We had a 2002 Forester... They're great cars until they're not.
@@ChrisPatrick-q6k Correct.
This version of Touaregs are known to leak at the oil cooler and coolant bypass on the top of the engine. I bet this is the case here and oil is making way its way down slowly after pooling first. Removing the intake is required. Not a super terrible job.
Yep. Only a matter of time before it happens. Putting plastic coolant parts in the "V" is just plain stupid. Only a matter of time before they crack and then leak.
I had a '13 3.0 TDi (Cayenne) and it happened to me.
Also the oil cooler gasket fails as you said. Messy job. Parts aren't that bad but labor rates can add up.
Sounds like the same problem like with Mercedes om642; oil cooler leaks. Material cost is like 50€/$, if you have someone to do the labour it will be not more than 250€/$. At the repair shop though minimum 2000€/$. 😁 nothing to throw the car away
I live in Ireland and we have diesels everywhere especially TDI’s as VW owns SEAT, Cupra, Skoda and Audi. TDI’s are generally very sturdy engines, the majority of which I’d say are 1.6 and 2.0 TDI’s.
I used to look forward to renting a 2 litre turbodiesel whenever I flew into Ireland but last November the car rental company gave me some Renault compact SUV with 1 litre 3 cylinder turbo petrol engine and said they were phasing out the diesels. Worst car I've ever driven and heavier on fuel than the 2 litre TDI.
I have a '15 Jetta 2.0 TDI (CVCA) 6spd. Same engine as you folks get in Ireland. Fantastic engines. Very reliable and super good on fuel !! 1000km a tank | 4.4L per 100km on the highways !!
A friend has a Passat tdi on an 2011 Donegal plate;
thinking of swapping it for a '18 plate
- I told him he'd be insane to do that ...
(prices of '18 plate tdi's are insane around Dublin
- €18k+ 😮😮😮)
the '11 plate looks great
- no bumps, scratches or dents ....
looks the dog's danglies;
an '18 plate with all the whistles & bells
is just asking for trouble
- hope he takes my advice
and spends the cash saved on a big
f*ck-off holiday to the Maldives.
Unfortunately, we only got them 1 year@@drewmax-kl4oy
UK here. I have a 1.9tdi Skoda fabia TDI. The engine is a legendary VW unit that can do 450k apparently - mines on 150 and doesn't miss a beat.
I have a 1.9L TDI from 2008, good power and great reliability 👍
I had a 2010 Jetta TDI, Volkswagen bought it back from me, that is a great story but I won't tell it here, I had 293,000 miles on that car when it was purchased back. I did all the maintenance fuel filters twice a year, oil at 5000, two timing belts and water pumps, two radiator flushes. I only put one exhaust back pressure valve in and a glow plug cylinder/pressure sensor. That car was so reliable it wasn't funny, not bad for 220 miles per day that it drove.
My 2013 tiguan 2.0 tdi i bought new .has 445k klm on it. Mostly service myself. Apart from obviously wear and tear items with this amount of klms on it has performed flawlessly.
The diesel gate cars were actually a great deal when they went back onto the market good price, low mileage and additional warranty.
That's why I bought my 2013 Jetta. It was a perfect deal price, mileage, and warrenty.
Yeah the price was great but i dealt with the exact emissions issues the wizard describes. My ‘13 Passat TDI was a lot of car for the price but holy moly the repair costs made it almost twice as expensive as what i bought it for
My Dad had a 2013 TDI Sportwagen and it was the best car I've ever driven from a value perspective. Room for a whole lot of stuff if you fold the seats down, spacious for passengers, and insane fuel mileage both on the highway and in town. I drive a Jetta only because VW doesn't sell TDI wagons anymore - I'd own one if they did!
@@ulrichhavershim5529I dealt with them too... But they were under the diesel gate warranty and the dealer had to eat it ;). I would be severely pissed if I had to replace DPF filter, EGR etc. on my dime.
I got rid of a 6.7L Superduty. I used the truck for pulling a 25' travel trailer. I loved the power of the engine but the emissions system absolutely ate my lunch - I couldn't afford to keep it. People were telling me to delete the emissions stuff but the cost of doing that if I had been pulled over by the DOT would've bankrupted me.
People don't know what they are talking about - tampering with the emission system in any way is a federal offense, and the fines are exorbitant.
the Touraegs have a great reputation for reliability and solid construction. i Have two TDI's 2013 golf and 2015 Passat love them both . Passat gets amazing gas mileage on the highway. I don't know of another vehicle you can drive 85-90MPH and get 40MPG. With a gas tank that can go 600-800 miles on a fill up.
Great video. I've own 3 Tornado Red Jetta TDI. 1998, 2002, and 2011. My favorite was the 1998 with 50 MPG on a trip.
AdBlue is not VW specific, it's the general term used in Europe for DEF. You can get it at a lot of gas stations in Europe and it will always say AdBlue.
I have a bag of adblue in my garage that I have to donate to someone as I now drive an EV. The 2020 Audi 40tdi seemed to suck more adblue than diesel and in the end the DPF error started coming on even though the dealership mechanics tried to fix it. I was glad I could pass it on...
AdBlue is a registered trademark of VDA.
Most gas stations here in US have it also. Most is made by “Peak” and they call it Blue Def.
My 2010 Touareg tdi never gave me trouble except for an Adblue heater and driveshaft carrier bearing. Fast, efficient, towed a 30ft camper getting 13 mpg. Still one of my favorite cars. Gave it up during the buyback.
@user-sf7kl9uh7k I do. But financially, it was a no-brainer.
They bought my 2012 back as well with 89k. Only issues were the DEF tank heater twice, DEF injectors fouled O2 sensors, HP fuel pump(technician error) and the ubiquitous VW blower fan failure.
I did the diy rubber hose and zip ties fix for the driveshaft carrier 5 years ago and it's still holding up. Cost me $5.
@@ChrisPatrick-q6k I did regret selling it.
@@chrismartin4654 I did replace the passenger fan blower motor in mine.
Had a 2014 Audi A6 with the TDI V6. Incredibly efficient with lots of torque and very reliable. Never left me stranded. I miss that car.
i have 2014 Touareg, but with 3.6 VR6 gas engine. No issues so far, besides higher than usual oil consumption (I have to add quarter of oil every 3-4k miles). Very nice car to drive, I was looking to to replace with something newer and there is not much available on US market right now with similar driving experience, sturdiness and towing capability.
This is a pretty common thing with the VR6. No matter what it's in, it's the PCV that drinks it that sits inside the valve. Cover whenever you do a valve cover. Replacement/gasket they have kits now. They have better membranes and such for them. Pretty easy while you're in their job well almost always eliminate the issue. I own a. 2016 VR6 with 145k currently
2008 Golf Plus 1.9, the ancient PD-TDI straight from Wolfsburg. Couldn't be more happier with the engine and the body and even the dreaded DSG is still doing good. The only major failure in 16 years was the alternator - replacement cost almost a hundred euros. But then it was mostly easy country driving, summer only.
I am on my 2nd dieselgate TDI Touareg. I love them. Excellent vehicle, great towing, smooth ride. My first had a small oil leak between the bell housings. I had it for 4 years. It never got worse.
Two English guys just drove from Morroco to London on one tank of diesel. 2006 1.6 TDi VW Passat....73.5 Miles Per US Gallon.
2011*
@@AJsVideos Ok...I stand corrected..I is old.🙂
@@AJsVideos Is that your video? If so...excellent work
The engine is robust and very fuel-efficient. De-tune it for emissions, add EGR, an oxidizing catalyst, a DPF complete with temperature sensors and fuel injectors for regen, *two* (count 'em) reducing catalysts, assorted lambda sensors and pressure transducers, thermistors, and about a mile of wiring, sensors, vacuum hoses, bypass hoses, valves, solenoids, exhaust gas backpressure regulating servo-control butterfly valves, and about a gadzillion lines of code to control all of it, and you are lucky to make it to the next *dealership* on one tank of diesel.
@@TradinTigerJohn I have a Skoda Octavia 2.0 TDI(VW). It has all the emissions gear you mention and we average well over 50mpg and on a long run over 55. I've had it seven years with nil reliability problems. You are talking nonsense.
My 2016 3.6 (gas) version is built like a tank - only issue is they do go through brakes and tires a little faster than the average SUV. Many of these are still under the original 10 year 100k power train warranty. Only issue I have had is heater blower motor went out, but it was an easy fix
Diesel economy largely ceased to be a thing when diesel prices at the pump soared above regular gasoline. I say this as a former VW Rabbit and Peugeot 505 owner. Hybrid makes a lot more sense nowadays.
You're absolutely right.... The US goverment at some point increased the tax on diesel fuel to 50 some cents, which for me, was the tipping point
Unless you’re thinking about towing. Diesel SUVs are frequently bought for that. Hybrids not so much. Don’t buy on the price of diesel today. It can change a lot during your ownership.
We had a guy put def in his diesel 2022 silverado and said he realized it as soon as he did it but rsther than tow it to us he tried to drive it, turned a tow bill and flushing his fuel tank to rebuilding the fuel system. Then about 2 months later he did it again, this time he didnt try to start it thankfully. We suggested he might consider trading it on a gas model
I have a Diesel Range Rover with 3 L V6, year 2017. so far its been a very reliable ride for 120 000 miles, i add DEF myself regularly and never had a problem. Note: only highway miles.
I've had 4 VW Diesels. I currently have a mk7 Golf TDI and my wife has a 2014 Beetle TDI. Both are excellent cars. If the emissions stuff gives us trouble, we'll either fix or delete it, but I'm really not going to worry about it. 99% of the time, it's just get in and drive without worry. That Touareg would be really nice with a proper detail.
@@mattalki I have put 185k miles on my 2014 Passat. I commute 500 miles a week and I think that is part of what helps them run better. The sitting around and short drives I think are rougher.
As long as the regens get done and not interrupted all the time. They will go forever. Remember Volkswagen redesigned the 2.0 tdi with emissions system in mind. That's why you hear people delete a 2015 Jetta and the fuel mileage is the same. I love my '15 jetta TDI 6spd. Three years with it best car ever
I have 4 also, Mk4 03 Jetta ALH, Mk4 06 Golf BEW, 06 MK5 Jetta and Mk6 (Facelift) CVCA.
That's why here in Ukraine most of the people cut out the emissions systems and reprogram ECU to work without them 😁
Yes sir 👍🏻
Cant do that here. Emissions test is part of the MOT and vehicles have to get MOT'd every year.
Yes and No
Not all states require emission inspections
Never mind the air quality. Love low emissions. Hate high repair bills.
I just deleted my TDI here in the states and got the ecu flashed. I have 200k on my Passat and looking for another 200k
Can relate to this one - I have a 2019 Audi A4 - with the 2.0 TDI engine. A while back it came up with a fault, AdBlue System Fault - No restart in 650 miles. It needed the tank / pump / module replaced (cost me over £2000 or $2600 USD to fix). Many people get the system coded out rather than replaced - car works fine, but is then technically illegal to drive on a public road (at least here in the UK)
It is technically illegal as your emissions don't match the V5 registration document any more. But then if it's a VW, it probably never did.
But then again, it's almost impossible to detect deletion.
Jesus CarWizard I have been looking at TDI Touaregs for the last months and asking just this question. Thanks for your timeliness.
I worked for 40 years for the top heavy equipment maker in the world. Going from what is called TIER 4A to TIER 4 FINAL cost us $27K to add the afterburners that burn particulates. The benefit was almost negligible although the customer had to foot the bill. Imagine what it costs to repair it.
The 4 cylinder TDI is indestructible!
Na zdrowie Car Wizzard. Eastern Europe greets you. We have experience in improving the operation of these engines. We live in a time when dollars are worth more than customer satisfaction. but our experts are working on it. Best regards
I have a 2013 TDI Touareg that I bought used. It would rattle on startup when cold because the timing chain tensioners were broken. 😢Apparently it’s not uncommon for this model year.
While the engine is out to replace the timing chain it’s getting so many other things that were worn out replaced:
Exhaust manifolds
Turbo
Injectors
Cat
Valve guides
DPF
The turbo was leaking oil into the intake so everything from the EGR to the intake valves was coated in sooty oil.
Hopefully when it’s back together it will be ready for a few more hundred thousand Km. Some parts are expensive and can be hard to get in NA though.
Oh when I saw title with “VW TDI” I clicked so fast.
I have a b5.5 VW passat TDI wagon ❤
I have a 2014 Ford Fiesta SFE with 120,000 miles. I love the car and wish they still made them. I bought it new and have averaged 42 mpg. It's not a race car but it has enough power to do whatever I need it to do.
I have Opel Insignia 2.0 diesel with Ad Blue ,240k km for now,no single issue for now
I have a 2012 3.0 Toareg in the EU, it's now at 186 k miles and running great. Never knew it came with ad blue in the US for this version.
I bet VW added that system after the dieselgate, just to be able to sell these there. Most AdBlue cars seems to come with a longer door for the two caps for diesel and AdBlue.
I have a 2007 Skoda Octavia 1.9TDi Estate (I'm in England) and it's a absolutely brilliant car and I get excellent fuel milage out off it, my only issue I had was an oil leak caused by a crack in the plastic oil dipstick tube.
Just sold my mk6 Golf TDI with 315000 km last march...Great car, but past 200k km it became expensive to maintain....No more diesels for me...I replaced it with a Honda Civic Sport Touring Turbo (6SP Manual as well) that sips Petro Canada supreme 94, but gets 40 mpg all day long and drives superb!!!
My dad has a 2003 Volkswagen Passat diesel and he’s been driving that thing for 20 years and loves it.
I have a 1997 VW Passat TDI 5speed, only like 67k miles. I want to keep it till death 😁❤️ Love the car so much. Yes it’s had some quirks like door handles n stuff but really not bad. Tan leather, sunroof, awesome heat and AC great sound system. I mainly use Bluetooth or the factory 6 disc cd player that is mounted in the trunk. Most I’ve gotten was 53.1 mpg on a trip, usually average about 43-48 mpg. Forest green exterior. Fun to drive and does very well in the snow. Have a roof rack for my snowboard, and I’ve camped in back too
I have had 2 B5.5 passats, BHW, one was a wagon. Nice cars, Estados Unidos only got them 2 years and with BSM chains, not gears.04 and 05. And auto only, which would go bad too!
I fast-forward all commercials except if Wizard does one for "Keeps Hair Loss". That one I'll watch.
If you get it for free then maybe its a good deal cause one major repair on one of those will cancel out any MPG you might have saved.
2012 Touareg TDI. 100k miles. I consistently use Liqui Moly diesel additives. I believe in this product. Compute 40 miles daily. 29 mpg’s. Will tow a house.
Great video. In March I purchased a 2013 Porsche Cayenne with this same engine. It was inspected pre-purchase and I love the vehicle. The fuel mileage is fantastic and watching people freak out when they see me putting diesel in a Porsche is priceless!
Have a 2015 T-Reg TDI similar to this one. Hasn't broken on me in 95k miles, but the maintenance bills are nuts!
As a car enthusiast, I understand that a modern TDI will likely not save you any money, but I like the way they drive and the character of the vehicles and they seem to be generally more reliable than other European vehicles. I had a 2006 Jetta TDI as a commuter last year and I regret selling it. I will probably be looking for a mk6 SportWagen TDI in the near future to replace it
The 1.9tdi is the greatest engine of all time.
Nope, that would be the intercooled, direct injected turbo diesel engine in the 1st generation mazda6. That thing is mind blowingly awesome. I just hit 246,000 km in mine, and except for the solenoid on the fuel pump, which is a revised Nippondenso part and which I replaced myself in 2015, everything else on that engine is still from the factory. More responsive than the VW EA289 with higher top speed even though it has 2 HP less. I also owned the 2.0 EA289 TDI, so I know...
@AnnatarTheMaia sorry but mazda diesels sucks
Various versions, ALH is mostly considered the best of the 1.9s. I have had 2, plus an AHU. I have 1 ALH currently, plus a BEW and a BRM. I also have a CVCA and a OM642 (early with double chain)
I have 3 TDI cars, 2009 jetta 1.9PD, 2013 jetta 2.0 dieselgate and 2016 Golf variant 2.0 post-dieselgate. Each engine a little different, all have been very good to me. The DGS6 transmission is one of the best available for any FWD car.
My 2015 2.0 TDI made it to 300k before I lost it in an accident. I used Pentosin Super performance with Lucas Stabilizer. Never had an issue with it. Original clutch and Turbo. Regular maintenance is the key.
I as a mechanic for about 20 years, I’ve always had a daily driver that i know is very reliable and simple to work on. Been daily driving a 1990 Silverado for about 15 years, everything is so self explanatory and easy to work on. Only thing i can think of and is still very easy is the power steering pump, just a bunch of bolts and need a puller
I had a 2011 VW Golf TDI 6 speed and I put a short shifter kit on it. My Dad owned a body shop, and I've driven every car there is, but that 2011 TDI is still my favorite car. Super fun to drive, very comfortable, and got 48-52 MPG on the highway. VW bought it back from me for $5500 more than it was worth as part of the dieselgate scandal, which really tore me up. I loved that car so much, but how could I possibly pass up such a great deal? I cried not because of any repair costs, but when I turned over the keys and took my check from the dealership. I had a 2014 Audi A6 TDI after that with a very similar 3.0L diesel V-6 to this Touareg, and I loved that car almost as much as the Golf, but the maintenance and repair bills were astronomical, so I sold it with 78k miles before it got even more expensive to own. I know all about gas and diesel engines, and it makes me sad that diesel exhaust is such horrible stuff that car makers can't make economic sense of producing them any more. I would buy another VW/Audi TDI in a heartbeat if it came from somebody who knew what they had and maintained it right. Thanks for another great video! I'd love to see and hear more about diesels in your shop.
I have a 2016 Touareg TDI I bought new as a dieselgate car. Agree with the general points of the video. The emissions equipment have been the only issues I’ve had. The car leaks a tiny amount of oil from the oil cooler which I bought parts for but it’s so small I haven’t bothered to fix it.
It’s hard to justify selling the car because there are no SUVs that could replace it, the only SUVs that can tow 7700 lbs reliably these days are gigantic and won’t fit in my garage, and the X5/GLE/Q7 are filled with mild hybrid tech that will be horrendous to deal with post warranty. I have 50k Kms of emissions warranty left but have the emissions delete kit parts ready to go! I’m hoping to drive this thing to the ground
Agree with you, have diesel audi q7 here,the best vehicle I owned great for long trips, way more comfortable than Toyota i had, great towing, was pulling a car trailer like nothing through the mountains.
I have a 12 diesel-gate Touareg and it’s been great. Excellent mileage and tows like a beast. Parts are cheap and I over maintain it. Was cheap to buy and I fully understand it’s likely a throw away vehicle if the engine pukes but. With new tow vehicles costing north of 50k, take a chance and repair awhile.
We use our 2011 Touareg to tow an enclosed trailer hauling our H-Prod GTI to SCCA events. Couldn't touch any pickups capable of the same towing capacity; prices are insane. As the video speaks to, we knew what we'd be getting into with it. It remains stock without a tune or delete. Have chatted up several TDI owners (VW, Audi and Porsche versions) who have been pretty consistent in opinion. Don't delete until the emissions crap out.
I have a 2013 TDI Touareg that I bought used. It would rattle on startup when cold because the timing chain tensioners were broken. 😢Apparently it’s not uncommon for this model year.
While the engine is out to replace the timing chain it’s getting so many other things that were worn out replaced:
Exhaust manifolds
Turbo
Injectors
Cat
Valve guides
DPF
The turbo was leaking oil into the intake so everything from the EGR to the intake valves was coated in sooty oil.
Hopefully when it’s back together it will be ready for a few more hundred thousand Km. Some parts are expensive and can be hard to get in NA though.
Same engine and platform as the TDI Cayenne without the absurd interior and a bit cheaper.
People who own TDI Touaregs in USA love them to death and almost never wanna get rid of them. They'll spend all kinds of $ to fix them, see it al the time at my dealer
I was getting close to 1200km (750 miles) per tank with my Jetta when I had it. Sure the oil changes cost a bit more, repairs cost a bit more, but I saved a TON of money in the long run on my commute to work at the time. Cheap diesel, cheap insurance, it wasn't that bad. When the turbo let go they wanted 5 grand to replace it and at the time I didn't think it was worth it. If I could go back I would 100% have done the repair and simply kept the car.
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Had an 09 Jetta TDI with 189K when I ended up totaling the car. Ran great and only major money I had to put it was a DMF to SMF swap when the 6 speed clutch went, timing belt at 100k, several glow plugs went bad. Axle replaced due to not catching torn boots. I was in on the recall and fortunately for me I was able to sell it back rather then have the emissions junk added. Really miss that TDI
I had a 2011 Jetta TDI.
Before adblue, and before the emissions scandal.
You need to tell folks to check the ash load with a scan tool. If the DPF is clogging, it was $4000 to replace (before VW was buying the cars back)
That's why I don't mess with emissions diesels. The heavy truck industry had the same issues with dpf and def systems going out.
Deleted my ‘16 professionally and has been zero issues, better mileage and more power to boot
You don't get any check engine lights?
The way it should have been ,ditto did mine now a really solid runner.
When they’re right, they are very satisfying to drive. 10X that with a manual. I’d buy one.
The emissions is why the 7.3 is the king of diesel trucks in states with inspections. Where I live, the 6.7 is considered very reliable after deleting it all. But we don’t have inspections.
So true, the closest the 7.3L Powerstroke gets to having emissions equipment is the crankcase vent. The Navistar T444E used a road draft tube. The 7.3 Powertroke eats its own oil vapor.
The DEF is sprayed into the exhaust stream to lower NoX levels and also can help keep the DPF clean !
How would it affect the DPF it’s downstream from it?
I have a 2015 jetta tdi 6spd. My advice to anyone that wants to buy a diesel vehicle with def and dpf. Do not skip / interrupt REGENS. Ive had my jetta for over three years. Only been to the shop for timing belts and brakes. They are great cars and mine has 6spd manual. Super fun and very torquey car and i get 900km tank !
These are the best DIY vehicles around. I love my TDIs but you have to do the work.
Probably the best ENGINES every made by VW were the 1.6l ( normally aspirated and the Turbo) to 1.9l inline 4 cylinder. They first appeared in the WESTMORELAND PA factory from 1981 for the NP, and turbo jetta was made in Germany. Super simple to work on and both of mine has 300k miles when i had to sell them. The single biggest issue was the glow plug set up. When WV redesigned the engine thats when everything went to crap.
I have one of these a 2010, with the DEF and DPF at 160k miles no issues, car has been great and the dpf and def system wasn’t broken but I deleted all that system now it’s reliable as it will ever be. I get around 35-38 mpg now after the delete and were so happy with it. If you have one of these, get rid of all the emissions garbage and it’ll run for ever.
We love our 2011. It was a buy back from VW from dieselgate and had the modifications done by them. The VW dieselgate work on these vehicles covers the emissions system and anything connecting to it for an extended period as well as free ad blue. These are incredible vehicles but they are 100% designed around the owner bringing it to the dealer for absolutely everything except putting in fuel so they don't care how hard it is for owners to maintain. When I was towing once, which these things are incredible at, the DEF empty range went from an estimated 500 mi to nothing in like 50 mi and I had to find the first truck stop and refill with overpriced DEF. It will absolutely shut down on you if it runs out.
Another thing you didn't go over but illustrates how hard these things are to work on is the battery. It is enormous and the size of batteries I used to use in oilfield equipment. Like double the size of a normal vehicle so you can start it in sub zero temperatures. It is under the driver seat. The driver seat has to be completely removed to drag that monster out of there.
The all wheel drive system is incredible. It's like you said though, it is hard to sleep at night thinking about all the emissions junk or worse if you have to replace the timing chain and tensioners.
Diesel fuel. Do not put in gas!!
You can do the battery by just tilting the seat out of the way. I assure you I didn’t pull my seat when I did mine. Just unbolted it and tilted it out of the way. Don’t forget your triple square sockets!
@@dipren443 No you don't have to totally remove the seat from the vehicle after you unbolt it. Still it is not what I would consider extremely accessible. I definitely learned about triple squares and ordered a set for this vehicle!
The battery under the seat has an incredibly long life being out of the elements and doesn't require the seat to be removed.
@@douglasb.1203 great point about the battery life. The oem battery in mine lasted about 8 years in Florida. I know Mercedes uses a similar location on the ML and its successor. As long as I don’t have to replace it often, I don’t see this as a big deal. 👍
Early ones? Yep go grab one. A Touareg with the v6 or v10 diesel? RUN!!!
The VR6 are the ones you want. The diesel engines themselves are fine just the emissions junk attached to them can be troublesome.
@@petrosaguilar8916Agreed VR6 might be a gas guzzler but it's a solid and stout motor
@@petrosaguilar8916agreed VR6 as it may be a gas guzzler, it's a very Stout and reliable motor
The answer is it depends on the tdi
I live in europe and had a 2016 vw caddy 2.0tdi as a company van and i can tell you that it was the best vehicle I've had in all my time working in logistics. It covered over 600k miles in its tenure at the company, most of them done by me, it was beat on relentlessly and it never let me stranded. Tried to buy it at the end of its life at the company but wasn't successful, much to my sadness. It was replaced by a ford transit connect which took all of 2 weeks to leave me on the side of the road
Covered by the Federal Emissions warranty for up to 8 years and 80,000 miles. California Emissions warranty is longer. They work a lot longer if you leave it stock, keep the EGR system clean, use quality DPF, and don't try to defeat the regen cycles.
I have 2 2012 Touareg TDI’s. Both are tuned and deleted and have been the best cars I’ve ever owned. I get up to 45 mpg on the highway
I bought a Q7 tdi just after the pandemic started, 137,000 kms for 11,500 Canadian with an almost full dieselgate warranty. In that time, Engine out reseal, new DPF, EGR cooler X2. Injector 3 & 5 replaced, 3rd EGR cooler and when I was to get it back, They got a code for low fuel rail pressure so literally got a whole new fuel system. Diesel touched it, They replaced it except the tank It got flushed. 40,000 KMs later my DPF died with no warranty left. I took it to a VW dealer who did a darkside delete and tunezilla stage 1. You read that right. A VW dealer did the work deleting stuff. car runs great now.
My therapy is watching Car Wizard videos 😊.
Here I am with my 2000 6.5 Chevy diesel... 230k miles 4l80e transmission . Still goin and no large repairs.
Pmd probably relocated too. Lol I had a '98 single cab 6.5 moved the pmd it was a tank
In some cities here in the uk if you want to drive into the city in an older diesel without a DPF or adblue it will cost a daily charge. Diesel days are numbered here, at least for the private driver.
As soon as you lowered the vehicle and mentioned the emissions, I knew you were going to talk about the rear tank. The main complaint I have about the SUV. Other than that, mine has treated me well
Leak is definitely the rear main seal, common issue with this model Touareg, engine out job to fix. Have a V8 TDi, no hassle since owning
I had a rms drip. Watched the Project Farm video on stop leaks. Went with the AT205. And holy shit, actually worked.
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@andydelassus2734 what is this AT205 you speak of?
@@douglasb.1203 It's called Google search for AT205. The answer will reveal itself.
I've seen the dual mass flywheels go bad often. pretty big job. But I still love my TDI
Not to mention there are alot of shops not 100% familiar with vw tdi engines and electronics I just had my 2014 tdi in 2 different shops for over a month it was dying as soon as you released the brake. Needless to say it was a $14 boost pressure sensor. Was not putting up a check engine light or any kind of code so they could not figure out the issue
DEF (diesel exhaust fluid) and Add Blue additives are 90% to 95% water. The active ingredient, urea, is only a tiny component of the liquid. Both can and will freeze in winter weather. Part of the wiring and plumbing around the injection system and storage tank are heaters to prevent freezing or to quickly thaw it out if it does freeze. Big trucks use it now and truck stops in colder climates have an awful time trying to keep their DEF pumps, lines and tanks from freezing during winter weather.
adblue/DEF fluid is not what destroys your car, it is the DEF crystallising when exposed to air, so do not "open" the fuel system until you are fully prepared. you get 10 - 20 minutes to clean out any "open" part, so do not start stripping it until you have crates of brake cleaner at hand to flush it clean, very, very, quickly. done loads, saved a lot of money for customers
My first Jetta TDI 2002, was awesome... Put 350K miles on it with minimal issues. Purchased a 2012 Passat, and it was a POS....... Def system issue, and two turbos went out..... sold it and will never own another one.
@@TurboJohnRacing Same Boat
The CKRA engine in those is a stinker and notorious for those issues and also clogging the heater core with sludge from overheated coolant sitting in the EGR cooler. The earlier CBEA and the later engine in the 2015 are significantly more reliable.
Had a 2nd Generation (7P; 2010-2018) 3.0 V6 TSI 4Motion Black Edition 5dr Tip Auto from new in 2015. Look after it and it’s a great car, but avoid the panoramic roof as they fail whether used or not, and replacements are over £3000 a time. I’ve had two in 9 years.
One of the biggest problems with the smog diesels is too much idle time. Run them hard, tow, haul, make the EGTs high, it really helps. I tow a 19,600 pound fifth wheel, and my dually very rarely idles.
I run a small private taxi company have a 2020 vw caravelle 2.0 tdi now at 650tkm first ting what i did after i boght the car new cut out all emissions fro it no dpf no cats no adblue. And in 650tkm no serius brekedowns. But all chepion is 2.5tdi models till 2007y 2-3mill easy and almost no emisions just standart cat delite.
In the mid 90s, Diesel fuel was hailed as the future in UK and Europe. Everyone was buying diesel. Better fuel economy and they last forever. Then they noticed the dreadful air quality in big cities. 🤔 the EU then began to take action. Emissions standards requiring all sorts of complex systems which may or may not work, ramping up each year. EGR being a prime example. Re burn the crap your engine has produced. In the case of diesel, mixing dry soot with fuel oil, what could go wrong. Unfortunately many manufacturers, VW being a prime example, fitted cheat software, making it appear in test conditions that emissions were low when in fact they weren’t. Many people probably still suffered from the emissions and perfectly efficient diesel cars were ruined. 🤔 So diesel power is effectively dead ☠️
With the emission standards in Germany and as a aftermath of the diesel gate, the Egr rate is 75%, which causes the intake, the Egr and also the combination chambers to carbon up, which causes more damage. Injectors popping, dpf going bad, even while engine failures. Don't know what it's like in the USA, but the last mandatory software update pretty much ruined most diesel vehicles in Germany. And the customer won't get any refund, nothing. There's been no information about those issues. People find out themselves when their cars begin to stutter.
It depends on which state your in. Some have higher standards than others. Some states don’t check anything at all. It’s a strange place like that.
Lots of people in the UK are deleting the EGR and SCR for these exact reasons. The EGR coolers choke up every 20k miles and there's nothing you can do to prevent it. The SCR system is hopelessly unreliable.
Very good advice Wizard!
Another channel I follow, the guy had a newer F250 with the 6.7 Power Stroke.
He was towing a trailer on a road trip when all of sudden the truck went into limp mode.
Come to find out the high pressure fuel pump let go.
When that happens shrapnel is sent throughout the entire fuel system.
The entire fuel system had to be replaced.
He was 1200 miles from home, ahead to have it towed back. $
He had a friend who owns a deisel repair shop that fixed it for him. It was well over $10,000.
If he would have taken it to the dealer it would have been over $15,000.
The Mechanic told him that can happen to all of the Deisel trucks. Ford, Chevy, Ram.
After he got it fixed he sold it and got a gas powered truck.
Newer Deisel vehicles? HELL NO!!!
I’m definitely going to reference this for a video I’m making on my channel about why my f350 welding truck is the gas 6.2 and not the 6.7 power stroke.
Best vehicle I've ever owned about ready to turn 200k. Is it cheap to repair? No. This platform is the Audi Q7, Lamborghini Urus, Bentley Bentayga, and Porsche Cayenne. Go figure on replacements being pricey.
That being said: reliable, powerful, economical, and fast. Best vehicle ever owned bar none.
Side note: a lot of comments about the Jetta/Golf TDI 1.9. Why?
Another side note. DEF ( urea and water ) freezes just like water so these vehicles also need a complete electrical heating system to keep it thawed out. Tank , lines , pump , filter housing, So if any of these heating elements fail the computer knows and puts you on the side of the road also. Even in the heat of summer !
I am both a Mark six in a Mark 7 TDI. They’re the best cars I’ve ever owned. I removed my DPF and put it downpipe in a tune and now I have over 380 foot pounds of torque in about 215 hp. Still get high 40s MPG. Great commute!
2.0 Cruze TDi is the better engine. And best of all, it’s emissions legal. The VW was a smog machine.
Is that illegal though?
@@nakoma5 only for cuckolds in California
@@alexnutcasio936 No its not. Thats EPA drivel.
@@alexnutcasio9362015 2.0 cvca tdi engines are awesome though. I love mine ! Trouble free 3 years soo far all stock Jetta 6spd manual
Another thing to be concerned with on newer diesel VW's is lot rot. A lot of them sat around for a couple of years before the agreed upon fix for dieselgate was placed on the vehicle. On my lease it caused relay's and sensors to fail. Also expensive. Declined to purchase due to it.
I live in France and I got the same car with the same wheels. Same engine. I can barely do 800 km/500 mi with a 80L tank. Not so fuel efficient but very powerful engine on the road. Very comfortable on long trip. Here in Europe it's not so expensive to maintain them since the car parts are cheap.
My '11 Volvo V70 D5 runs perfectly fine after 210k miles. The DPF is working great, no issues. It's a non-DEF engine so no issues there either.
Too bad Volvo never offered their newer 5-cylinder diesels in America.
I have been driving fiat diesel multijet cars for years. Top engine if you drive a lot on the highway. You will only have problems if you drive a lot of short distances around town. Then the problems start with the DPF filter, EGR valve, etc.
TDIs are great so long as you keep up on maintenance. They all have well documented issues so nothing is unexpected and fixes are out there. I have a 2012 A3 TDI and the only real issue I had (aside from incompetent dealer techs) was the high pressure fuel pump failing which was covered under warranty. It has 120k miles on it and doesn't miss a beat.