OMG. Are you serious or, perhaps you're just trying to troll us? Your argument about the 70 hour power reserve is absolutely ludicrous. You must be the only guy on the Planet who thinks a 38 hour PR is superior to 70 hours. And the clasp, by the way it's called a T-Fit, is much better than the three holes the old clasp offered. I happen to own an ETA powered BB36, owned it for quite a few years now. That watch consistently runs around - 10 SPD. I also own a BB58 and a BBPro both, which have the in-house 70 hour PR, they offer far superior timekeeping. They both run around 2 SPD + -. For my money I prefer the five link bracelet over the current three link set up. Speaking of snowflake...
All watch brands are increasing power reserve to 70 hrs or more. It's hard for the big media companies like Hodinkee that are paid by these brands to speak against what brands are doing. Only the small channels like mine can think independently.
@@QuartzCrisis it will only cause wear if you consistently don’t use the watch for 3 days at a time. If you leave it off a ln entire month you still only lose 1 day of extra durability, which I disagree with since you want your watch to be running regularly to maintain oils. But let’s say you are right about durability, it would matter if you consistently take off your watch for 3 days at a time versus your typical 2 days, let’s say every week swapping watches. This implies you want lower power reserve because you plan on NOT wearing the watch which is counter logic in your consideration for buying a luxury watch. Do people really buy a luxury watch and hedge on not wearing it? Also the benefits of not setting your watch as often outweigh the negatives. Regardless a penny for your thoughts
@@cleverghostchiliyes. I rotate all my watches and it will be months before a watch goes back into rotation. I probably wear my watches one month a year total if that
Well said! Should hunt down a previous gen BB36. I have to say I really like the guild dial and the jubilee bracelet. No snowflake seconds hand and no smile dial are a big shame though. Gonna probably keep skipping these models. Would be curious to hear your thoughts about the BB54.
I gave the 41mm blue dial. I love it. I hope they give us a black dial with silver accents again someday. I’d like to have a 36 in black with a T fit rivet bracelet.
The old model was basically a BB diver without the rotating bezel. Now it’s something much more special, the case is very similar an Explorer or DJ (no more slab). It’s a stunner, more dressy, which makes sense this Watch style, it still looks great casual dress but much better now with a suit. I picked up a 41 in Champagne, love it for my wrist size, everyone can find one which looks right for them.
it makes sense because it's becoming more and more like Rolex and you want Rolex. Try Explorer 1 it will make even more sense to you;) We like Tudor to be Tudor, all these non-Rolex things are attractive to us
I have an old smiley BB41, but I think the new Black Bay is a good Datejust 36 alternative in all honesty. Will probably pick one up if a deal every pops up here.
Kenissi is started and owned (80%) by Tudor, though. That would make it in-house. Otherwise SII is not a Seiko in-house, and Miyota is not a Citizen in-house.
I'm reading that initial partners Tudor and Breitling each owned 50% of Kenissi. Sometime later a third partner Chanel joined and that new partner now owns 20%.
It’s obvious why Tudor changed the watch; the old one was a direct competitor to the Rolex Explorer 36mm and Rolex probably didn’t want this. Luckily I’ve had the old watch for 6 years and love it 😊
I agree with most of your points, I love my BB36. I don’t think the power reserve makes as big of a difference on wear though. Depending on your use case 70 hour power reserve is nice if it’s a watch you wear during the week, then it’ll still be running when you put it on Monday morning. I wear my BB36 on the weekends so power reserve isn’t as much of a concern.
The issue is the move away from the true black dial. The guilt grayish dial on jubilee canceled my order. 39mm with former black dial on oyster with t-fit would of been enough.
Fortunately I got hold of a used/like new BB36, when i heard that its discontinued...the new one destroyed the everything I loved about this watch...but thank god, Tudor didn't tried to use rectangular markers... personally I really dont like em...old BB36 dial is one of the most perfect dials to me.
You’re wrong. Kenissi is literally in house. Tudor is the primary owner of Kenissi and the movement manufacturing is literally in the building connected to the Tudor building in Geneva. They got their funding and their technology from Rolex, Companies like Chanel, etc ate partners but they do not have the expertise like Tudor does. They do have the money which is what you need to do in-house well. Beyond this, Rolex is providing a counter balance to ETA which the SWATCh group has pulled from the the rest of the industry with destabilizing effects.
I was super pleased about this new release and had my eye on the Black Bay 31 until I watched this video. I never noticed they'd changed the darling seconds hand.
Love your channel- but WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Everybody (except you apparently) appreciates a longer power reserve! I have the Black Bay 36 like yours and the same version in the 41 size. They have Sellita movements and are pretty good. I have regulated mine to 1+ second per day- but they did need to be regulated in order to achieve that accuracy. Also the movement is 'crunchy' when winding which is unpleasant to the touch. Sellita movements are just OK and probably well-priced to manufacturers like Tudor and others who use them. Also I had to buy an Uncle Seiko half-link to get my perfect fit on this version. I recently got the new Black Bay 39 with the Jubilee bracelet and new movement. It is not a downgrade as you suggest. It is very accurate, even better finished than the previous models, and a pleasure to wind and operate. Have you actually handled the new version that you are talking about? Get one in your hands and then make a video. I am a subscriber and enjoy your videos- you just went 'off the rails' on this one IMO...
Hey thanks for watching my videos and I appreciate you being the subscriber. If you are in New York or Miami let's do a follow up to my video together. Especially I would love if you could share your experience with the new 39
I am in Southern California. I am not very video savvy but would be happy to share any info I have about the new BB 39. I have quite a few Tudors, bought them from the same dealer as my local Rolex AD. You're very likable and honest so your channel should grow.
"..much, much better than the downgrade that they released..". Aren't esthetics subjective here? 10 vs 15 ATM is objective though, but most other CHANGES to the design = not improvements or downgrades but changes, are in my own favor. Except for maybe the snowflake second hand :/ The price increase is another objective one though, that's for sure. But thank you for the comparative video, appreciate it!
Also I have to disagree with the power reserve comment. It will wear more yes, but we are now absolutely splitting hairs on how to optimize the longevity in a movement VS. what is actually practical. Not everyone cares about wearing down a movement on a sub 5k€ watch during many years, if it brings them to use and enjoy it more. I feel like the whole angle on this video is too nit picky and elitist for someone interested in this series. You bring good points that you explain well, but put too much weight on those from your own perspective. Just my two cents, still appreciate the content!
30%? How do you do your calculation? Here in France, the retail price of the « older » version was already way above €3,000 since January 1, 2023… 3160€ for an old 36 and now it’s 3780 for a new one…
they should have left the seconds hand and the oversize crown as they were. On the other way the bracelet it's STUNNING! I have just bought the old version like yours I found one brand new and I saved £1000 compared to the new version! Thank you for your videos!
I bought the bb36 because of its monochrome gloss black dial, it has the face of a no date sub, but i think its prettier because its less cluttered and the watch is more versatile, it literally goes with anything and can be anything, you can swim with it, its as legible as a field or pilots watch and its classy enough to be a dress watch, they gave the new one a sunburst dial, not my thing
Gonna go try on the new BB36 at my local dealer sometime next month. I personally prefer the jubilee over oyster, so thats a huge plus for me having a t fit jubilee. If the difference in thickness is not noticeable enough, i might just get a older bb36 with a aftermarket jubilee
Also I think Forstner 19mm Bonklip should look sick with the new gilt BB36. If you see the new BB36 please let me know how the new crown compares in size with the old one. Is it much smaller?
@@QuartzCrisis true. I’d preferred the new one with an oyster style bracelet, a less dress watch and more of a tool watch look too, but it is what it is
I completely agree with everything you said, except for one thing. There are plenty of cases where people have used the same watch for years without any issues whatsoever. This means they wore their watch daily and it held up just fine until today. Also, I believe that watchmaking has improved a lot, and the oils we use today are better than ever, which should further decrease wear and tear. Sure, the watch might experience a little more wear when idling, but I still think a longer power reserve is always a good thing.
Much prefer the previous version, but thought the price for an ETA movement watch was becoming too high and didn’t buy it. SO….. was incredibly pleased when I found a jeweller selling off their last one today with a third off the original price. So I will shortly own a black faced BB41 like yours. Last of the smiley faces!
I think Tudor ruined the BB36. The dial and the bracelet changes are too much for me. I wanted to pick up a new one, not now. This is just an OP/DJ mashup that has completely changed the old watch’s character.
Go for the Lorier Falcon II: Perfect Watch. Better Version of the Black Bay 36 and much much cheaper. But now they only offer the Falcon III: Love it too. Better Version of modern Explorers.
@@QuartzCrisis or you spare the money and get the better looking watch. Good design is not expensive - it is just the marketing dollars that make some people think the bb is better. Or you care about the movement - but for me it seems like an excuse. Lorier Falcon is a love letter to the Explorer, Railmaster and BB. But ya, I guess we agree to disagree 🙃
Still why downgrade? When I got my 2017 BB36 I was pissed that they downgraded water resistance from 200m like in regular Black Bay to 150m in mine. Now it's 100m! :(
Some people have said the new BB36 is 12mm thick..... 😮 i still havent gotten around to trying one on. But if that is true, ill deff be getting a older BB36...
Sometimes, I think there must be something deeply wrong with this whole industry of luxury watches, and the name "marketing" is, or at least, might be a polite word for "fooling"!
my gripe with the Previous Gen BB line up was always the Snowflake Second hand and the Big Snowflake Hour Hand . it just did not suit the Dressy nature of the Black bay and should've been used just on the Diver Back Bays. the new Version BB with its Sunburst blue dial , smaller Snowflake Hour Hand and lollipop Seconds hand Make it MUCH more Dressy looking and more in line to its Intended Nature. it is now much more A explorer/Datejust alternative albeit without the date. tried it on today and was impressed.
Do not agree, just bought the new BB36 with anthracite dial. I always ‘nearly’ bought the old blue dial, however the crown tube was honestly distracting and the bracelet never fitted me. Having the jubilee (which is classic vintage) with the T Fit clasp is a game changer. Pick up an old one if you’d like, but honestly the upgraded movement and bracelet is slick
Cellita - high-end movement?) Ok, maybe. I mostly disagree with all mentioned reasons. I don't really care about smiley face or decreased water resistance (do you really believe that 150m is much better than 100m?) I like 39mm, new clasp and jubilee bracelet. I don't like big crowns. As for movements. I think the True-In-House is going away in mid-range. SG makes special movements for Longines, for example. We can see the growth of "In-Group" movement philosophy. Here's the same. True-In-House goes to the higher range watches. Finally, I like 2023 Tudor watches.
Completely disagree! It's the only Tudor release I like from this years ww.. They completely knocked it out of the park and love the release and all the updates. Will be buying the 39 grey with the guild dial! To each their own!
The 39 mm is actually a good idea, on me the 36 looks too small and the 41 too big which actually makes me not able to buy the old gen even if I wanted one
39mm is too big for the simple 3 hand design like BB36, you want something more going on in all of that space. BB58 solves this problem because it has bezel. Also any chrono in 39mm wouldn't have this issue.
@@QuartzCrisis actually you are right I have to change my mind, today I wore a 36mm watch I nearly forgot I had and it was great. What are your thoughts on the BB blue dial?
I disagree with about 90% of what you said, it's actually laughable! This is evidenced by the fact that your watch's value is plummeting on the used market (opposite of what you said). I believe they call this "sweet lemons". Just because you have the inferior version, you have to shit on the upgrade. Every single one. Take off your shit-colored glasses and look objectively.
Just found your Video today. And I had been happy about finding the old model. Now I was happy to find out about the new release with t-fit-clasp. Turns out, the Watch is now a blingy piece of sh@& and not a tool watch any more. 🫵🏻 You Sir, are 100% right.
OMG. Are you serious or, perhaps you're just trying to troll us? Your argument about the 70 hour power reserve is absolutely ludicrous. You must be the only guy on the Planet who thinks a 38 hour PR is superior to 70 hours. And the clasp, by the way it's called a T-Fit, is much better than the three holes the old clasp offered. I happen to own an ETA powered BB36, owned it for quite a few years now. That watch consistently runs around - 10 SPD. I also own a BB58 and a BBPro both, which have the in-house 70 hour PR, they offer far superior timekeeping. They both run around 2 SPD + -. For my money I prefer the five link bracelet over the current three link set up.
Speaking of snowflake...
All watch brands are increasing power reserve to 70 hrs or more. It's hard for the big media companies like Hodinkee that are paid by these brands to speak against what brands are doing. Only the small channels like mine can think independently.
@@QuartzCrisis it will only cause wear if you consistently don’t use the watch for 3 days at a time. If you leave it off a ln entire month you still only lose 1 day of extra durability, which I disagree with since you want your watch to be running regularly to maintain oils. But let’s say you are right about durability, it would matter if you consistently take off your watch for 3 days at a time versus your typical 2 days, let’s say every week swapping watches. This implies you want lower power reserve because you plan on NOT wearing the watch which is counter logic in your consideration for buying a luxury watch. Do people really buy a luxury watch and hedge on not wearing it? Also the benefits of not setting your watch as often outweigh the negatives. Regardless a penny for your thoughts
@@cleverghostchiliyes. I rotate all my watches and it will be months before a watch goes back into rotation. I probably wear my watches one month a year total if that
I approve of all the improvements, especially the new 39mm size, but also the champagne and ardhesia dials.
Everybody here here feel so bad because Tudor release a better version of Black Bay 36 and they stuck with the old one 😀
It’s an affordable watch, so nobody is stuck with the old version if they like the new one.
The old BB36 looked nicer, indeed. The one thing I dislike about it hasn't changed: the flat chrystal.
Well said! Should hunt down a previous gen BB36. I have to say I really like the guild dial and the jubilee bracelet. No snowflake seconds hand and no smile dial are a big shame though. Gonna probably keep skipping these models. Would be curious to hear your thoughts about the BB54.
Kenissi is more in house than you're saying. Tudor and kenissi managed by same person and kenissi is on land owned by Rolex Tudor.
I’m so pleased I’ve got the old one.
I gave the 41mm blue dial. I love it.
I hope they give us a black dial with silver accents again someday. I’d like to have a 36 in black with a T fit rivet bracelet.
The old model was basically a BB diver without the rotating bezel. Now it’s something much more special, the case is very similar an Explorer or DJ (no more slab). It’s a stunner, more dressy, which makes sense this Watch style, it still looks great casual dress but much better now with a suit. I picked up a 41 in Champagne, love it for my wrist size, everyone can find one which looks right for them.
it makes sense because it's becoming more and more like Rolex and you want Rolex. Try Explorer 1 it will make even more sense to you;) We like Tudor to be Tudor, all these non-Rolex things are attractive to us
@@QuartzCrisis The problem is, Rolex, Explorer costs more than twice as much.
I have an old smiley BB41, but I think the new Black Bay is a good Datejust 36 alternative in all honesty. Will probably pick one up if a deal every pops up here.
Kenissi is started and owned (80%) by Tudor, though. That would make it in-house. Otherwise SII is not a Seiko in-house, and Miyota is not a Citizen in-house.
I'm reading that initial partners Tudor and Breitling each owned 50% of Kenissi. Sometime later a third partner Chanel joined and that new partner now owns 20%.
It’s obvious why Tudor changed the watch; the old one was a direct competitor to the Rolex Explorer 36mm and Rolex probably didn’t want this. Luckily I’ve had the old watch for 6 years and love it 😊
I agree with most of your points, I love my BB36. I don’t think the power reserve makes as big of a difference on wear though. Depending on your use case 70 hour power reserve is nice if it’s a watch you wear during the week, then it’ll still be running when you put it on Monday morning. I wear my BB36 on the weekends so power reserve isn’t as much of a concern.
The issue is the move away from the true black dial. The guilt grayish dial on jubilee canceled my order. 39mm with former black dial on oyster with t-fit would of been enough.
They destroyed the unique character of the Watch
Fortunately I got hold of a used/like new BB36, when i heard that its discontinued...the new one destroyed the everything I loved about this watch...but thank god, Tudor didn't tried to use rectangular markers... personally I really dont like em...old BB36 dial is one of the most perfect dials to me.
All great points. My ideal: old version but with new crown, new bracelet, and a 39mm option. Might have to pick up the old 36 version though!
You’re wrong. Kenissi is literally in house. Tudor is the primary owner of Kenissi and the movement manufacturing is literally in the building connected to the Tudor building in Geneva. They got their funding and their technology from Rolex, Companies like Chanel, etc ate partners but they do not have the expertise like Tudor does. They do have the money which is what you need to do in-house well. Beyond this, Rolex is providing a counter balance to ETA which the SWATCh group has pulled from the the rest of the industry with destabilizing effects.
This is incorrect
very much agree, we went from a solid tool watch to a "bling bling look at me". just like you I much prefer my 1st gen and would not buy the new ones.
they've made our old BB an instant classic!
@@QuartzCrisis just the seconds hand makes all the difference!
I was super pleased about this new release and had my eye on the Black Bay 31 until I watched this video. I never noticed they'd changed the darling seconds hand.
39mm is the Goldilocks zone for me. 36 is too small, 41 is too large.
Love your channel- but WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Everybody (except you apparently) appreciates a longer power reserve! I have the Black Bay 36 like yours and the same version in the 41 size. They have Sellita movements and are pretty good. I have regulated mine to 1+ second per day- but they did need to be regulated in order to achieve that accuracy. Also the movement is 'crunchy' when winding which is unpleasant to the touch. Sellita movements are just OK and probably well-priced to manufacturers like Tudor and others who use them. Also I had to buy an Uncle Seiko half-link to get my perfect fit on this version. I recently got the new Black Bay 39 with the Jubilee bracelet and new movement. It is not a downgrade as you suggest. It is very accurate, even better finished than the previous models, and a pleasure to wind and operate. Have you actually handled the new version that you are talking about? Get one in your hands and then make a video. I am a subscriber and enjoy your videos- you just went 'off the rails' on this one IMO...
Hey thanks for watching my videos and I appreciate you being the subscriber. If you are in New York or Miami let's do a follow up to my video together. Especially I would love if you could share your experience with the new 39
I am in Southern California. I am not very video savvy but would be happy to share any info I have about the new BB 39. I have quite a few Tudors, bought them from the same dealer as my local Rolex AD. You're very likable and honest so your channel should grow.
I already have the old design bb36. I would get it if it’s same design with COSC. New design doesn’t means appealing to me even though with COSC.
Its not like the movement in your old bb36 is bad, you can always get it regulated to COSC accuracy if needed. Enjoy your old bb36!
An entertaining, informative and thought provoking video - I watched it twice to make I didn't miss anything! Thanks 👍🏻😁
"..much, much better than the downgrade that they released..". Aren't esthetics subjective here? 10 vs 15 ATM is objective though, but most other CHANGES to the design = not improvements or downgrades but changes, are in my own favor. Except for maybe the snowflake second hand :/ The price increase is another objective one though, that's for sure. But thank you for the comparative video, appreciate it!
Also I have to disagree with the power reserve comment. It will wear more yes, but we are now absolutely splitting hairs on how to optimize the longevity in a movement VS. what is actually practical. Not everyone cares about wearing down a movement on a sub 5k€ watch during many years, if it brings them to use and enjoy it more. I feel like the whole angle on this video is too nit picky and elitist for someone interested in this series. You bring good points that you explain well, but put too much weight on those from your own perspective. Just my two cents, still appreciate the content!
Also, thanks for taking a stand agains the war.
@@SoBek49 it’s not like I’m super unbiased in my opinions😂
@QuartzCrisis yeah it's me commenting on your channel after all :D
30%? How do you do your calculation? Here in France, the retail price of the « older » version was already way above €3,000 since January 1, 2023… 3160€ for an old 36 and now it’s 3780 for a new one…
In US it was $2950 now $3850
@@QuartzCrisis Old 36 blue dial on the oyster bracelet : 3200€ (WESTIME LA or TOURNEAU - BUCHERER 1988 NY)
@@elchonchon2456 wow!
they should have left the seconds hand and the oversize crown as they were. On the other way the bracelet it's STUNNING! I have just bought the old version like yours I found one brand new and I saved £1000 compared to the new version! Thank you for your videos!
Great catch!!! You’ll love it
I bought the bb36 because of its monochrome gloss black dial, it has the face of a no date sub, but i think its prettier because its less cluttered and the watch is more versatile, it literally goes with anything and can be anything, you can swim with it, its as legible as a field or pilots watch and its classy enough to be a dress watch, they gave the new one a sunburst dial, not my thing
Gonna go try on the new BB36 at my local dealer sometime next month. I personally prefer the jubilee over oyster, so thats a huge plus for me having a t fit jubilee. If the difference in thickness is not noticeable enough, i might just get a older bb36 with a aftermarket jubilee
Also I think Forstner 19mm Bonklip should look sick with the new gilt BB36. If you see the new BB36 please let me know how the new crown compares in size with the old one. Is it much smaller?
@@QuartzCrisis ill let you know!! I suspect they went for a more vintage rolex style crown this time.
I actually don’t agree with anything you said and totally approve with this new release. But everybody has the right for their own opinion.
The new one is not the bad watch, you'll enjoy it. Definitely get it! I just like the old one better
@@QuartzCrisis true. I’d preferred the new one with an oyster style bracelet, a less dress watch and more of a tool watch look too, but it is what it is
I completely agree with everything you said, except for one thing. There are plenty of cases where people have used the same watch for years without any issues whatsoever. This means they wore their watch daily and it held up just fine until today. Also, I believe that watchmaking has improved a lot, and the oils we use today are better than ever, which should further decrease wear and tear. Sure, the watch might experience a little more wear when idling, but I still think a longer power reserve is always a good thing.
The thing is that for the average consumer who wears his watch every day the longer power reserve doesn't matter
Much prefer the previous version, but thought the price for an ETA movement watch was becoming too high and didn’t buy it. SO….. was incredibly pleased when I found a jeweller selling off their last one today with a third off the original price. So I will shortly own a black faced BB41 like yours. Last of the smiley faces!
I think Tudor ruined the BB36. The dial and the bracelet changes are too much for me. I wanted to pick up a new one, not now. This is just an OP/DJ mashup that has completely changed the old watch’s character.
Go for the Lorier Falcon II: Perfect Watch. Better Version of the Black Bay 36 and much much cheaper. But now they only offer the Falcon III: Love it too. Better Version of modern Explorers.
No, no reason to go for a micro brand. You can just get the older version of Tudor, the one that's still perfect.
@@QuartzCrisis or you spare the money and get the better looking watch. Good design is not expensive - it is just the marketing dollars that make some people think the bb is better. Or you care about the movement - but for me it seems like an excuse.
Lorier Falcon is a love letter to the Explorer, Railmaster and BB.
But ya, I guess we agree to disagree 🙃
the price is absolutely ridiculous! IMHO!
Is that you Boris from Goldeneye? Thanks for the video, wasn't aware. I still prefer the new one
:)
I agree the old model was much better, the old model with the added t fit to the bracelet would’ve been perfect
Lol 100m vs 150m water resistance on a watch no one will use to dive with is no argument..
Still why downgrade? When I got my 2017 BB36 I was pissed that they downgraded water resistance from 200m like in regular Black Bay to 150m in mine. Now it's 100m! :(
Some people have said the new BB36 is 12mm thick..... 😮 i still havent gotten around to trying one on. But if that is true, ill deff be getting a older BB36...
100 vs 150 meters of water resistance does not really matter in my opinion. It is not a diver watch. Both is good enough for simple swimming.
Most of these changes don't matter that much, both are great watches. But the direction where they are going matters. See the part 2 on my channel
I wonder how long the old BB36 will be on the marker for. I was hoping to still pick one up in the summer.
Go go go. Get it while you can
Thet already discontinued the bb36 ETA
Sometimes, I think there must be something deeply wrong with this whole industry of luxury watches, and the name "marketing" is, or at least, might be a polite word for "fooling"!
I like the improvements and now might actually buy one
Bonjour j’étais un peu dubitatif au début de votre exposé.
Finalement, vous m’avez convaincu.
Excellente analyse.
No snow flake second hand…? What’s the big deal? It’s just a shape. Give it a few years people will be whinging no ‘lollipop’ second hand
my gripe with the Previous Gen BB line up was always the Snowflake Second hand and the Big Snowflake Hour Hand . it just did not suit the Dressy nature of the Black bay and should've been used just on the Diver Back Bays. the new Version BB with its Sunburst blue dial , smaller Snowflake Hour Hand and lollipop Seconds hand Make it MUCH more Dressy looking and more in line to its Intended Nature. it is now much more A explorer/Datejust alternative albeit without the date. tried it on today and was impressed.
Why not getting the 41mm? I don't understand
Just bought last old bb36 from my AD.
Great and now iconic watch! you'll love it
What is your wristsize?
6.25 inch
Do not agree, just bought the new BB36 with anthracite dial. I always ‘nearly’ bought the old blue dial, however the crown tube was honestly distracting and the bracelet never fitted me.
Having the jubilee (which is classic vintage) with the T Fit clasp is a game changer.
Pick up an old one if you’d like, but honestly the upgraded movement and bracelet is slick
i would never buy white black combo. Golden on black is much better.
I love it! I ordered a blue dail 41
I prefer the previous version.
"Your second hand doesn't have a snowflake so your Tudor SUCKS" lmao 🤣
Lmao who is this old guy and what is he talking about…
No Oyster bracelet = no Black Bay 😢
sorry to disagree, the new BB is better in every respect. the old just feels like a cheap ETA watch. the new one feels like a luxury watch
I like this watch...but I don't...but I do... but I don't...
get the old one
Thanks for sharing!!
The new one has a better case my man.
I thought it's the same case, but I might be wrong. Let us know if you see any differences
@@QuartzCrisis no longer slab sides. Curves like oyster case
@@KRE8TVT I didn't realize that! Need to compare them side-by-side. Thank you!
@@QuartzCrisis definitely different Case . the New BB Models use the Same Case as the BB S&G models . much less slab sided and more Oyster Styled.
@@justinlangley9522 Thank you! I didn't notice that. The different case can also be the reason of the decreased water resistance.
Looks like a Seiko 5 now😅
But I do like vintage Seiko 5 ... from Seiko not Tudor;)
Clearly no down grades on these watches. Silly video.
Well said. I like the "classic."
I'm waiting for this.
Cellita - high-end movement?) Ok, maybe. I mostly disagree with all mentioned reasons. I don't really care about smiley face or decreased water resistance (do you really believe that 150m is much better than 100m?) I like 39mm, new clasp and jubilee bracelet. I don't like big crowns.
As for movements. I think the True-In-House is going away in mid-range. SG makes special movements for Longines, for example. We can see the growth of "In-Group" movement philosophy. Here's the same. True-In-House goes to the higher range watches. Finally, I like 2023 Tudor watches.
Ok, got it! Just don't buy Tudor. Thanks for the advice!
Completely disagree! It's the only Tudor release I like from this years ww.. They completely knocked it out of the park and love the release and all the updates. Will be buying the 39 grey with the guild dial! To each their own!
even given the changes it's still a very nice watch.
all the changes made it better for me 🙂
"You bought the new Tudor and your Tudor SUCKS!" preach
;) that might not be the smartest thing I said in the video
Great video, spot on!
I like the new one because the have diamonds 😂
I do like diamonds ;)
The 39 mm is actually a good idea, on me the 36 looks too small and the 41 too big which actually makes me not able to buy the old gen even if I wanted one
39mm is too big for the simple 3 hand design like BB36, you want something more going on in all of that space. BB58 solves this problem because it has bezel. Also any chrono in 39mm wouldn't have this issue.
@@QuartzCrisis actually you are right I have to change my mind, today I wore a 36mm watch I nearly forgot I had and it was great. What are your thoughts on the BB blue dial?
@@marcoferay5751 nice! Try blue before you buy. Nice watch too, but you might be surprised by the shade of the blue they use in BB36
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The new Black Bay 36 looks more feminized....I guess Tudor has gone woke...LOL
I can only agree with you!
I disagree with about 90% of what you said, it's actually laughable! This is evidenced by the fact that your watch's value is plummeting on the used market (opposite of what you said). I believe they call this "sweet lemons". Just because you have the inferior version, you have to shit on the upgrade. Every single one. Take off your shit-colored glasses and look objectively.
I would say you are on the crack pipe...
Can’t understand a word he is saying.
Just found your Video today. And I had been happy about finding the old model. Now I was happy to find out about the new release with t-fit-clasp. Turns out, the Watch is now a blingy piece of sh@& and not a tool watch any more. 🫵🏻 You Sir, are 100% right.
Oyster is the way to go. Thats the best look. If I can't get it, I'm not buying it.
You want Rolex, not Tudor
@@QuartzCrisis can’t justify that cost. I have daughters I would rather give the money to. Tudor. Ok. Just a nudge thing.