@@thefirm4606 the Mother made her choice. I don't feel bad for her. Kids end up either winning or losing the genetic lottery all the time. Nothing new.
@@firefly9838 too many women and their children end up dead at the hands of men like this. She was coerced into marrying him. His behaviour is the abusive partner’s playbook. And she was incredibly young at the time. But sure, she made her bed.
One of my closest friends has been with a guy, got pregnant with him last year and right around that time we all found out he's an offender. The story is pretty similar. He was 20 with a minor. Now he's 44 and started dating her when she was barely 21. We all thought it was weird when they got together why a guy who was so much older would want a very young girl. When we found out he was an offender it all clicked. She doesn't tell me much, but recently she admitted that she keeps finding dating apps, and nudes on his phone. He's just a perv and doesn't stop. I have begged her to leave before her daughter gets to the age he likes(preteen-teenager). She's still there, over text tells me everything is good and she loves him and not sure what we can do at this point.. he has also threatened kidnapping the baby just like this guy. I think they threaten that because they know that they would never get custody in court so they know that they can't weaponize the child any other way.
As someone who was sexually abused as a child. Do not let that man into your life. He's a danger to society. PERIOD. My abuser ended up SAing my cousin, and molesting his daughter. THE EVIL DOES NOT GO AWAY.
Predators love to hide behind the church and lurk there…they’ve learned it’s a safe haven where they will be ‘forgiven’ if they play the part all the while still preying on the innocent.
I have seen it happen many times. Especially if he presents well ( superficial charm ) and she seems like a bit of a mess either from abuse or mental health issues.
I do not think that was the threat, the way I read it was that this man would steal their child a sell him or her or take them out of the country. This reads a lot more like a hostage situation than a relationship.
Exactly. He threatens to take their baby unless she marries him and John's advice is to all just get along?! His advice here is scary and I hope the dad has enough sense here not to take it!
As a Christian man I 100% believe in 2nd chances and forgiveness in saying that child molesters are a special kind of people you just can't trust at all around children ever.
You're right, they should never be around children again. You can give 2nd chances and forgive and yet still keep up the safety and boundaries of those who can not protect themselves. Part of their redemption and proving themselves worthy of forgiveness is to have ironclad respect for boundaries of others. I can forgive a snake, bit that doesn't mean I'm gonna let it bite me again.
I was married to one, he was not a full blown molester yet or hadn't been caught in anything, but I saw red flags. His family were churchgoers, but the whole family dynamic was narcissistic with a hyper religious mother manipulating the whole clan. I believe at some point he had been molested himself. His brother had passed so we were there for the funeral and after marital relations I went to take a shower and when I got out he was laying on a bed out in the living room with his 16 year old niece. No shower no shirt in pj pants spooning. I flipped and the entire family saw nothing wrong with it. I left 6 months later because I couldn't get him to see that that was inappropriate in my eyes. Well 2 years after me leaving he died of a heart attack 3 weeks before turning 39. He had a friend he visited frequently with little girls and I had warned the friend when I left that he had boundary issues. The friend cussed me out for insinuating his friend was a molester. I called him to let him know hiw friend died and found out he had a warrant out fornhis arrest for molesting his 7 year old daughter. Forgiveness is one thing if there is acknowledgment of wrong doing and an effort to get therapy or some kind of help. My ex never admitted there was a problem. Well, no he's one problem less, but that friend has the guilt of not protecting his child after being warned and that 7 year old will have to deal with that the rest of her life. Don't invite a snake into your home and then cry when you get bit. There is religious Christians and then there is God, and I'm glad justice was served. As narcissists that whole family demonized me for speaking up. In my eyes their church going means nothing to me...they had their chance to see truth and do something about it and they turned a blind eye. They will all have to give account eventually. As for me...I never knew them. And I'll never know people who sell out their kids in order to maintain materialistic gain like a home and cars and cushy lifestyle because the pedophile is the provider and breadwinner etc. I had to start over with nothing, but I have my dignity and peace that I spoke up and did what I could as soon as I saw signs.
If God truly changes the heart of a child molester then he can no longer like children and end up hating that sin. When God saves someone they turn from sin and begin hating it. There is a change of heart. Sin is sin and if you claim to be Christian and you don’t forgive and give a chance to someone who says they’ve truly changed and hate that sin and they are elect, then Christ doesn’t indwell you and you have hatred in your heart. And that’s bad because in Gods eyes if you’re in your sins, you’re just as bad as a murderer or peephole.
As a woman, this mans wife is absolutely insane. I would be so disappointed in my spouse for glossing over a serious crime and saying "forgiveness just because". NOPE, sex offenders are a hard pass in my book, I'm completely with the dad here.
Some women I feel like have been damaged by the church surrounding forgiveness… I actually know a person who was forced to live with their rapist for a time. It was her older sister’s husband who raped her and confessed to it and everything and asked for forgiveness and my friends family chose “radical forgiveness” and let him stay there in their home with the daughter he raped… Not saying this can’t happen anywhere but they were Pentecostal fundamentalists… very religious people. When it happened, I lost so much respect for all of them.
I think she knows her daughter has emotional issues and won't leave. I definitely doubt she actually forgives and accepts this man Doesn't want to lose her daughter and grandson. I'd have trouble too
I can understand the wife from a religious point of view of forgiveness, but the daughter is insane knowing all the facts she wants to go back then deal with it.
I think the wife is also afraid of loosing contact with her daughter and grandchild again. Bc “sex offender” took all of them to Vegas and denied contact
The dad should have immediately called CPS when he found out and gotten emergency custody of that baby. Screw the daughter, she clearly doesn't care about herself or her kid
She believes him when he says it isn't true. However, she knows that his family have convicted child molesters. Does she think that's not true as well? That poor, innocent child.
That’s an incredibly simplistic way of looking at it. It’s possible it’s true, but more likely it’s that the daughter is in denial. They say “love is blind” for a reason. It’s easy to armchair quarterback these situations, but no good comes from it. My mother took my sister and her husband to court after getting emergency custody of my nephew, ended up losing the final hearing, and I haven’t seen that kid in 20 years as a result. These things are FAR more complicated than you think, and the consequences if you don’t have all the evidence you need in place before you make a decision like that are far worse. Ppl have to stop thinking this is so easy to deal with, it isn’t.
Bad advice here. The caller needs to do two things: call the parole officer and turn the guy in, and sue his daughter for custody of his grandchild. That child is in danger from BOTH parents. The grandparents need to raise that child. The daughter can choose to be part of the child’s life but cannot be allowed to be the child’s guardian until she can demonstrate that she will never put the child in danger.
That is a very risky move to do, i would fear the daughter would resent the father and the mother would perhaps get stuck between this, since they have no unified front (since the wife wants to be the "good holy person" and not put boundaries to protect her grandchild from a Child Rapist)
@@eleonora6980 because the mother is allowing a sex offender to be around the child. Because the mother is allowing a sex offender to violate the terms of his probation around the child. Because the mother is showing blatant disregard for the safety of the child by choosing to aid and abet a criminal rather than do what is necessary to protect the child. Because the mother has shown that she cannot be trusted to do what is in the best interest of the child. I sincerely hope YOU don’t have children, since you similarly have no concept of why this behavior is unconscionable.
Same! I just can’t leave it up to chance because that one chance can effect a child for the rest of their life and I can’t bear being an accessory to that by giving second chances 😢 Especially knowing his history I couldn’t do it. He can “change”; and appear kind and trustworthy just to be closer and prey on more children and I couldn’t take that risk.
@@amandagoudeau1963 I feel the EXACT same way and I am being ostracized from family for feeling this way. The person in question already violated his parole once within a few months of getting out of prison and that to me shows a lack of character and I fear the worst for my family member, but I cannot sit back and allow this person into my life.
@@christophercarrigg3775 umm… did you not hear the whole convo? He has multiple times by being around kids and teens under 18. When you register you are not allowed to have any contact with anyone under 18 so several times he violated his parole.
Many sex offender aren't barred from being around kids! It depends on what their " triggers" are and what his crime was. Some people are on that list bcuz they urinated in public while drunk and have ZERO interest in kids....
@@Minecraftisbeast47unfortunately that’s probably why he’s allowed to be around children. The courts dont take SA seriously enough especially when it’s “statutory”. And I think they can always be around their own children unless they’ve offended them. They just have to be supervised which is BS. These creeps get out in 5 years with good behavior.
@@MsAlyMonique Sex offenders who've offended against children are not allowed around children. The only reason hes been getting away with it is because no one has reported him. The court can even bar them from being around their OWN children. There are levels to the registry. Level 1, 2, and 3. I think level 3 is the lowest and that would include public urination or indecent exposure with no child victims. Level 2 and 1 are more serious crimes and those levels do carry the "no kids, no drinking, no drugs, no social media, etc". Thie guy in the video was in jail for 2 years, that doesn't happen for public urination.
I work in a prison, we have hundreds of these guys here. No matter how much therapy these guys have, adults who touch children are not safe adults. This woman is playing with fire. This is NOT about religion. Adult men who touch children are irredeemable. He has a sexual orientation toward children, likely for the power. This man cannot be around children at all. It’s part of the terms of his release and he is a predator. Horrifying thought, he may have already assaulted the baby or traded him for access to a child in his preferred demographic. SO’s do horrific things to their victims to get their needs met. This caller has no obligation to do anything for this man. He needs to contact the parole officer now. Damn the relationship with the SO and double-damn the relationship with his daughter. The fact that he called for advice rather than call parole, is astounding. Unless this man wanted to hear, “Yeah, pray for him and take this terrible advice.”
You’re allowed to forgive people for making mistakes, but letting someone who has a reputation for hurting children, around children, is irresponsible.
Exactly. Christianity shouldn't even be brought up in this situation. Yes you can forgive as a Christian but to ignore the dangers is unchristian, unsafe, and on sound advice which is basically what Dr John is saying for him to do. Craziness all around here
The daughter is 50% of the problem. She married this loser and had a kid with him. Everything that will protect the kid needs to be done. She should consider a divorce
Got the sequence backwards. She had a kid with him and then he used that as leverage to coerce a marriage. And she's got a pretty big mental condition. This situation sounds like a total mess.
Dr. John, this sex offender is either a sociopath or a psychopath. He will not care at all about what the caller has to say to him. In his mind, he doesn’t like being told what to do by anyone. He is a danger to society.
I agree about sociopath or psychopath. They are master manipulators, have no remorse, take no accountability for bad, destructive behaviors, no moral compass. Whatever meets their need, regardless of the damage it does to others, is their goal and they justify their horrible deeds by placing blame onto society being the problem, or everyone else around them. They are so twisted in their minds that they feel completely justified in what ever nasty, despicable thing they have done. They are also experts at manipulating the legal system.
I would make the call to his parole officer regardless. Child sexual abusers should not be around kids. If you know something, you have a responsibility to protect children regardless of the situation.
Exactly, I couldn't live with myself if he assaulted another child all while I actively knew he was violating his parole and never said anything. He's a ticking time bomb that everybody is just watching till it explodes.
As a Christian, you're supposed to forgive but also be wise as serpents. Why do people think forgiveness means ignoring all bad behavior? Forgiveness doesn't mean throwing away all common sense.
'You shall know them by their fruits'. His actions since his conviction and since meeting them tell them everything that needs to be known. It sounds like Mom and Dad both didnt want to upset their daughter in the beginning despite the son in laws lack of character. Sometimes we have to do the right thing, even if it means our child will hate us. The mom is hiding behind forgiveness.
My husband and I are dealing with this in our family currently. A family member is dating a sexually violent predator, and we are being ostracized and judged for not accepting him into our lives. I find it morally reprehensible to victimize children, and as a victim of SA myself, I cannot accept someone who has done this. They believe its the Christian thing to do to accept him and make excuses for how he's good for this person, and we are somehow the bad people for refusing to be around him. I can forgive his transgressions without accepting him in my life and to me, child abuse is unforgivable.
This is the first time I COMPLETELY DISAGREE with his advice!!! This man is a proven pathological liar!!! He’s a master manipulator and is going to take this opportunity to destroy the callers relationship with his daughter… OBVIOUSLY!!! Call his parole officer today! Period.
Agreed….no breakfast/lunch with this guy….definitely no telling him he will contact the law on him ( could be dangerous) just contact the law and take care of this mess now.
Offender is responsible for his actions and took your daughter hostage. You cannot offer him redemption. Remove the child. And she is now responsible for allowing him to remain in the home. I am praying for her strength. ❤
I'm a Christian no sex offenders coming to my house I have nieces and nephews no matter what a common trait among sex offenders they're always lying and over friendly they are not to be trusted
Being Christian has absolutely nothing to do with this problem. In fact, it may be detrimental to properly acting to protect the child. People who claim to live Christian lives eagerly embrace liars, com men, and sexual abusers.
Denial. These women sleep well at night without a care because denial is one of the most powerful things. They feel removed from the situation because it couldn’t happen to them, it happened to “someone else”.
That woman clearly knew he was a sex offender the whole time and didn't care now she's trying to make up a bunch of stories to justify it to her family
@@nickdelaney6953 Actually I've looked into men's claims about this. Because there are so many single mothers these days due to a lack of accountability from men, on the surface it appears they are worse. But as soon as a man becomes involved in a child's life, the statistical likelihood of something traumatic happening skyrockets. This is why context is just as important as the statistic itself.
@@pinkpugginz I am suspicious. Considering he already behaves a busivelt, I wouldn't be surprised if he trapped her first and now she either won't leave due to sunken cost fallacy or she doesn't feel like she has a choice. Studies reveal that about 93% of men think it's acceptable to get a woman to lay with them even if they convinced her through lying. They don't see it as coercion or borderline grape. Which it absolutely is.
No, as someone who was abused as a prepubescent child by an older cousin. Keep predators away from your kids, and if your kid expresses discomfort around someone, believe them and keep them away from that person.
To the father... do not accept this. You know this guy is bad news for your daughter and the rest of your family. Keep supporting your daughter and grandchild but stay strong and stick to your convictions.
Poor decision? Define his poor decision. If it was a lame duck 18 yo dating a 15 yo illegal but not rape or molestation etc. if it’s the latter, you’re insane to call it a poor decision. It was a damn choice and those that commit those choices are repeat offenders more often than not.
@Rich Vidal keep supporting your Son in Law. This was a poor decision, when you make a decision it is by definition a choice so he made a bad decision, but from what it sounds like now is that he is doing well, learned his lesson, and is an active member of society. This is the sad part, if a drug dealer was convicted of selling drugs to a minor multiple times. People talk like he made a mistake and should not be judged for it if he paid his debt to society. However, if someone is an RSO they continue to be judged by the worst day of their life, pay their debt to society, become productive members but no matter what they are always judged continuously for that worst day even if they never re-commit their crime. Once your debt is paid ALL criminals should be treated as rehabilitated when released, period no continual punishment.
@Rich Vidal Did he piss in public or rape a child? It depends on what they did. If he did the latter, he isn’t a stand up person, he might portray as a good guy but that’s exactly what they do. Allowing them back into society is directly allowing a known offender to harm more kids.
@@arturofederico8928 There isn’t a long enough jail sentence for a molester, allowing them back into society places children near him in danger. If he pissed in public, that’s forgivable but if he raped a woman or abused a child, he shouldn’t be unleashed back into society at all. They’re dangerous, they can portray as good guys but that doesn’t make them less of a danger of ruining someone’s life.
Lisa Terkeurst Boundaries and Goodbyes study is on RUclips. Every young woman should listen to this free study. Just eight sessions. Boundaries are Godly. Forgiveness is mandated by God for (your )peace.
They're cutting the daughter too much slack. She isn't just sitting by, she married this guy. She had to marry him? No judge would give this guy sole custody. And she is literally complicit. She got pregnant and married the dude.
He said she's bipolar so we don't know where her mental state was at that time so maybe she really feels as if he will take the kid and we don't know what else is going on their relationship.. Clearly sounds abusive if not physically emotionally and verbally
@@firefly9838 murder is different than SA of a child dude. Offenders pick victims they have easy access to. Who does he have the easiest access to? The child. The likelihood of him doing it to the child is very high.
@@firefly9838definitely know for sure . He has a sexual thing for kids. That means he thinks about kids because we all have sexual thoughts . Sometimes they just pop up in our heads .
My question is will Vegas even see that as avoidable marriage. Or even in the state they live in. Because I'm telling you right now this woman married a sex offender under emotional distress and if you think this dude is going to let her go easily no way this is one of those men that's like if I can't have you well any repercussions towards me nobody can. This is a guy who's I think the moment she really starts to stand up and say enough is enough he's going to kill her and their baby this is a guy who knows automatically that he's prepared to kill the caller's daughter and the call is grandchild because they cannot handle the fact that he couldn't Not only was his story found out but now he could be looking at potential prison time and maybe even longer than the original two years he was in there.
@@rebeccaspratling2865 It’s also common for a lot of sex offenders to have been traumatized as well and suffer from mental illness so do they get a pass? Of course not.
That’s why he went for her. He would tell she’s easily manipulated, insecure etc. I was watching this documentary where a pedo stated that they will get into a relationship with a women for the baby they will provide. Than they will abuse that baby, record it, distribute and or exchange videos with other sicko. These women are also the root of the problem. Stop giving underserving men babies.
@@chill3282 I wasn't giving a pass to anyone so why would I give a pass to predators? Just spreading awareness since it's so common for people to pay others to birth children for these these days, causing more chaos in the world when it's preventable.
He forced the daughter to marry him so she cannot testify against him. She and the child are in serious danger. His wife is in denial and living in a fantasy world. Only the 14-year-old girl and her parents can "forgive him" if he ever chooses to admit his guilt. This is dangerous. Hire a private detective to document his behavior so you know what is really going on. Turn it over to the authorities if he violates his restrictions. If and when the daughter is ever ready or needs documentation for a divorce and child custody, show it to her.
Dr. John, here’s one for ya. A young friend who was 18 at the time was having a sexual relationship with a lady in her early 30’s who happen to have a daughter who was 16. Her mother found out that he was having a relationship with both of them. Mother filed charges and now he is a RSO...
Did I hear this man right in saying his wife “has a big heart and wants everyone to be happy”??? Her child was forcibly married and is living with a PREDATOR. Protect your child however old she is and do the right damn thing and call the police. How is this even a hard choice?!?! What is wrong with people??
@@FrogeniusW.G. Sure I still judge each as an individual and only with cause. I often find that people attempt to apply their understanding of Jesus's message to their life and it just doesn't add up to me. Would Jesus invite a convicted sex offender into house with children? Maybe, but he might also have such a powerful personality that the sex offender would not act up. There aren't many people that can command that kind of respect so people need to be cautious acting exactly as Jesus would. Your results may be wildly different then Jesus'.
I cannot even imagine what her thought process was....to knowingly date/marry a convicted sex offender who was convicted of lewd acts w/ a minor (14-20) is disgusting. It's not as if she was 16 and he turned 18 and her parents got pissed.. or something along those lines...it's an adult pursuing a child. That's abhorrent.
No! No! No! Call his parole officer. He has not learned, he's not trustworthy. His family and upbringing is evidence that he's not safe! That grandchild is at risk. Is there a follow-up to this call?
The son-in-law is an absolute abuser and it sounds like his whole family of origin is as well. This is not someone to safely accept into your family in anyway shape or form. Call his parole officer immediately and discuss at length the pattern of lies and parole violations. Don’t have breakfast with him. Don’t allow him in your house.
Yeah, I didn’t like that part of the advice. He needs to let the parole officer deal with it. And then be there to help his daughter and grandson when that POS is back in jail.
My brother in law molested his daughter and was found guilty. Did some time in jail - weekends for 18 months. My sister married him as soon as his trial was over. Neither will discuss what happened. Its been 20 years and I just can't be around him. Of course he didn't do it according to other family members. I don't know why - but he is not on sex offenders list. All I know is my grandchildren will never know him. End of story.
My Advice: Talk to your daughter and tell her she has two options; Either she takes a lawyer (which you offer to pay) and *divorces* him *or* you'll *report* him.
I do not understand the advice AT ALL. Call the parole officer. How many children will he hurt before someone stops him. They. Never. Change. My heart breaks for his future victims 💔 .
@@tessajones9393 I am skeptical, but I do think they can change. I think God can work in people’s lives and they can change. Would I completely trust them? No.
There is no such thing as penance for this man. Be real about this, he likely took a plea, so what he did is probably worse than the actual conviction. He is violating parole. He is manipulating, lying and exerting power at every turn. This father should be fighting for his grandchild. He should be calling the parole officer, social services, and an attorney. Sex abuse is a generational cycle in his family. Child sex abuse is a soul killer. I absolutely would NEVER leave my grandchild in that situation. So disgusted at John’s advice.
A friend did something similar when her family cut her off she left the guy within about a month. Her family cutting her off might have saved her life.
Threatening him with the idea of reporting him to the parole officer, if he steps out of line, is dangerous. Now days some people who are threatened shoot people. He doesn't want to be threatened in anyway that means he'll go back to prison.
I agree with you. I think now that a baby is brought into the world, we are past more chances. At this point, the focus needs to be on protecting the baby.
If it was my daughter, I'd tell her that if and when she gets rid of this character, you'll be there for her. She's an adult now and married. Let her go and wish her well.
Are you suggesting that they cut her off? Because that's exactly what I'm thinking. Clearly their daughter really lacks morals and obviously I don't know why. But she's not a good quality person. She's a grown woman now who chose to be a degenerate. She would have to get rid of him come before she could come to my home again. Sounds harsh, but we're playing with fire here.
The absolute priority here is the grandson. The priority is to get him into a safe environment. This is a family with a pattern of abuse, there is no reason to think anything has changed to end the cycle. If that child is abused it is too late to fix it, being abused by a family member is a scar you carry always and forever. Even the daughter doesn’t matter right now in comparison to that poor child, she has a choice and that grandson has zero control.
You can't reason with a sex offender. He broke parole, put him back in jail. That fixes the problem for the daughter, she can get away from him. They reoffend. Period.
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. He made out with a 14 year old but they didn’t have sex? And he went to jail for two years for that? I think I would go to the county courthouse where he was convicted and ask to see the files. It should be public record. They won’t have the name of the victim in there but you can see exactly what he was charged with and convicted of. You could also try talking to the parole officer but I’m not sure what all they can share with you. But I would definitely let them know he violated right away.
Yes, pleading guilty is easier sometimes because if you plead innocence, but the deck is stacked against you (the evidence doesn’t show it) then you get MORE time than if you would’ve plead guilty.
That's not right. There are plenty of innocent people who take the deal and go to jail for 3 to 5 years instead of playing the odds in trial and risk going for 25 years if they lose, because it depends on a jury with emotional people and a prosecutor who will do anything in his power to put you down. If he was guilty without a doubt, he wouldn't have been offered a deal or such a short time in jail. But he might also be the worst person on the planet. All i'm saying is it's not black or white.
@YD thank you! Clearly these people don't understand that. Some innocent people spent 20 plus years in jail for stuff they didn't do all because they decided not to take the deal
Do not ever, and I mean EVER, let a sex offender think that what they did is simply a prison sentence they had to serve. Do not ever let them think their life will ever be normal again. What you need to do, is sue for grandparents rights. That child is in the home of a registered sex offender.
That's counterproductive though. Once a sex offender has served their sentence, they should be able to return to normal lives, except they shouldn't be allowed to be alone with children. If they're treated like crap and come to the conclusion life outside jail isn't any better than in jail, what's stopping them from doing such things again?
@@alpha-sama No they shouldn't, and I will die on this hill. They can't change who they're attracted to just like I can't change that I'm attracted to men and that's never change. There's two things you can do, you can ice them out and protect the children of your family, or you can welcome them in with open arms and serve your kids to them on a silver platter. Those are the only two ways that can go and I've never seen any evidence that would say otherwise. Simply refraining from physically reaching on an impulse, or a need doesn't change that the need is there and nothing else will satisfy that.
There is no such thing as grandparents rights. Except they could try to get full custody because of the obvious danger to the child and the mother is easily manipulated.
When the caller said the daughter’s husband comes from a family of sex offenders….of CHILDREN, that’s where the conversation should have ended. Take the baby and keep him AWAY from that family!!!!
This is weird advice my guy… he just told you that this dude is a registered sex offender and his father and brothers are also convicted sexual predators who live with him.. that means their granddaughter is in the same home as multiple male sex offenders.. why would you tell this man to try and create some sort of relationship with the guy when he told you right off the bat how much he can’t stand the guy. Everything about this call was pointing in the direction of ending this relationship by any means necessary. This isn’t the time for this guy to play the tough dad role and try to mentor this grown adult sex offender into behaving well enough for him to accept him.. you should reach back out to him and give him better advice!
If that many sexual predators live with the wife and baby...more than likely that infant is already being sexually abused...ugh...sickening to even think about...Rescue that baby...
@@Meskaruneif the baby lives with even one of these monsters, there’s no real protection the grandparents can provide with weekend/holiday visits. The daughter is sick for even being with this predator worse marrying and having a child with him. Wtf is wrong with HER? That’s the real question.
Don’t give in to toxic Christianity - yes I said it. It’s a matter of providing a safe environment for that child. The daughter has a choice. The Father is still her Father & can provide insight to HER. And then it’s up to her. I’d still report him to his new parole officer though.
1. IMMEDIATELY report him 2. File for custody of the grandchild or 3, offer to pay for an attorney IF she’s willing to get an annulment AND have no further contact with him But above and before anything else report him to get him back into custody and simultaneously removing his influence over her.
A 20 year old should know not to mess with middle school age girls, thats irredeemable & I have no sympathy for him. Put him back in jail for violating parole.
Self esteem comes from YOURSELF. Parents can be good to their kids, but kids spend more time with other kids at school than they do their families. Your parents can tell you that you’re smart and beautiful, but if your peers say differently, you’ll believe your peers when you’re young.
@@nickdelaney6953 and? My father victimized me. Countless fathers do. In fact, the person most likely to victimize a child is usually their father or uncle or brother. Being a father doesn't mean anything to offenders.
What can pedophiles do? 1. Stop gaslighting online 2. Seek therapy asap 3. Avoid people under the age of 20 like the plaque 4 Don't date or marry anyone more than ten years older than you. That's creepy 5. Don't date or marry anyone more than five years older than you if you're ages to 25. That's nasty! 6. Yes, if you were SA as a child too this is unfair. Brutally unfair. But if I contracted Ebola I would have no right to then expose others to it to deal with my grief. No court on earth has ever let accepted this legal argument. 7. I have a lot of empathy for those who are addressing this. If this was my brother or husband and he hadn't acted on it I would see him separately from mine and any children and support him. I would fight like hell that my husband only have supervised visitation and if he was genuine and not trying to manipulate that's what he would want too. 8. So for all those making excuses for letting pedophiles have access to the children, do the hell better.
CORRECTION! Don't date anyone ten years YOUNGER than you... and don't date anyone FIVE years younger than you... AND please don't send me a bunch of examples of how you married a 28 year old when you graduated high school and you're so happy. I'm sincerely sorry your parents radar wasn't tuned up. Jerry Seinfeld dated a high schooler when he was in his 30s. He and her parents should have been investigated by CPS.
As soon as he said his daughter married a sex offender and had a kid by him. I had more red flags about the daughter than the son-in-law..... And then as he started to explain the daughters just a mess
All you have to do is take a look at the recidivism rates for child sex offenses and there’s your answer! The difference between a 20 year old and a 14 year old is completely inappropriate and disgusting.
Sexual offenders are where I draw a very hard line. Child molesters can not and should not be trusted under any circumstances. Trust is what predators want you to give them so they can gain access to the children in your home. Predators also like to prey on single mothers because they know those women are vulnerable and looking for a man to help them with their kids. Do not ever let a sexual offender into your home or family.
No conversation with him Dr John! Just report his butt! The father isn't equipped to hold his parole in his hands. I was on board with everything you said up to this point. This guy is not a trained professional and the dude is sex offender with a bi-polar daughter and kid. You cannot coach him to be an "accountability partner." The dude broke the law. Send him back to jail.
Lots of kids are born to horrible parents. If we used state resources to help each and everyone of them, we would be bankrupt and the tax rate would be 98%.
Yall do know 20 is still a kid right. Yea he should not ben with 14 but let's not talk Like he some 35 year old grow man. The boy needs help for sure. But people like yall is the reason why this country fuckup. It's not ok for he be with someone young but it's not also ok too Ruin has life. He was 20 not a grown ass man with wisdom. We all know u don't really become grown into ur late 20s in 30s
@@deangelomalone2008 Actually YOU and people who think like you are the reason why 20yr old MEN think its “normal” to even CONSIDER dating a 14yr old CHILD!
I’d get all of the event photos where he was there and tell his parole officer and report my daughter to CPS. The baby is in danger and he has to choose the grandchild over his daughter.
ABSOLUTELY the WORST advice!!!!! Because of the specific nature of his crime, he must be kept away from all children! The grandfather should sue for custody of his grandson!
Thank you! When the dad talked about his daughter being forced, it did not ring true. He is ashamed to admit to raising a woman who could make such horrible choices.
No sex offender recovers. No sex offender should be near kids. The only problem is that something like urinating in public is considered and offense. Which i dont think is the same, as the intent is different. Im so sorry that this man is in her life.
To the caller: no one except the victim is in a position to forgive him, let alone your wife. Does that make sense? You may not like what he did, but he did NOT do it to you.
This answer was way off the mark. The child’s safety wasn’t even the main focus here. And it should have been. CPS should be involved. And the grandparents should go to court to get custody.
No, no, no. This man should not be the gatekeeper. Dont put that on him. Parole officer should be involved, tgis man has NO power in this relationship. Report, report, report.
How on earth does a convicted sexual offender successfully threaten a female that he will take her son/child away? Like what leg up does he have on her that she’d believe that?
She's mentally unwell and vulnerable. It's not difficult for a male psychopath to threaten a woman in that situation, particularly by using her child as leverage.
Hexsaidcshes bipolar I'd like to know if she is well regulated and under a psychiatrist, because not being g medicated screws up judgement decision making etc. Her poor child doomed living in the environment of granddad the molester, uncles who mo,est, Dad who does, and a mentally unstable mother. Poor child.
I would be way less forgiving. I would fight my kid for the grandchild. No child should be around a father who let's his father around who molested a family member. If that means my daughter hates me I am okay with that. She is not my priority. That innocent baby is.
Just because you may be forgiven, doesn't mean your actions should be forgotten. People forget that just because you have done your time doesn't mean you should be trusted. Getting a person's trust is a privilege not a right and the person convicted of a crime so heinous should be expected to recieve this reaction.
There's no way in hell i would allow him anywhere near my family. I would contact his parole officer. I would do whatever i had to do to get him out of my daughter's life. As a victim of abuse, this makes me sick...
Especially as a Christian, no way would I welcome a sex offender into my life. The Lord commands us all to protect the innocents/children and that means keeping dangerous people at a distance. You can do that without being unkind or wishing ill on anybody. It's all about calculating the risk, and there IS risk, so 🤷 that's a no.
interesting. you accept god into your home and he spiritually assaulted mary who could not give informed consent.i'd start with kicking god out immediately and then youll be logically consistant.
Bad advice to tell the father to offer weekly meetings to the husband and essentially threaten him into being accountable and a better man. This will trigger the guy to move daughter and grandson away, and possibly be more controlling and abusive.
This is the problem with America right here! People deliberately break the law, and we think we need to be forgiving Christians and let it slide. This whole conversation is about letting it slide with him and nobody’s going to report him for everything that he violated during his parole and continues to violate. Get this guy back in prison ASAP.this is a joke. America stop being so worried about accepting and forgiving. If people break the law, they need to be held accountable.
HOW IS THIS A QUESTION!!!!!! I don't care about the circumstances, how he pled, if he pled that way due to bad advice, he is a CONVICTED sex offender who pled guilty - there is NO way he is going to be around my family and I am not going to play nice for the daughter's sake - NO WHERE AROUND me and mines
They need to protect the baby!!!! Their daughter is not protecting the baby & the husband is not safe with his own child, nor are his family members. They gotta get the kid out of there!!!!
How could you just ignore the fact that he literally threatened your daughter with taking away their kid😂? Hell naw I'd calling his parole Officer right away and report everything illegal he has done!
These grandparents need to call his parole officer. Period. It’s not a matter of simply avoiding him, that baby is at major risk for life long issues, that baby is not safe. He’s violated his parole several times, call. The. PO.
Dude this is infuriating. Our justice system protect these people. He did not get the penalty he deserved. He should be locked up forever. He should be six feet under. wtf. That baby is in more danger than anyone is talking about right now
Disturbing advice in this video. Don’t open your door to a manipulator for breakfast, he will just manipulate the father. Report the parole violations. Support your daughter and grandchild to get them out.
I can’t even believe I’m hearing about an olive branch being offered. There’s one basic human instinct that might even be stronger than sex, protecting children. He and his family are clearly predators, and the daughter is not strong enough to keep her son and other safe dad needs to tow the line strictly and let him know that his crime will never be forgotten
If this man coerced her into marriage, then he’s not safe to talk to alone, he’s not safe to be left alone with his daughter. Threatening him could make him punish her or their child. She needs to be supported and separated from this man because nothing good is going on behind closed doors. Horrible situation, I hope they get them away from him safely.
The baby is who I’m terrified for. She’s gonna keep making insane choices, but the baby is going to pay the price.
They’re both in danger. Mother and child.
@@thefirm4606 the Mother made her choice. I don't feel bad for her. Kids end up either winning or losing the genetic lottery all the time. Nothing new.
@@firefly9838 too many women and their children end up dead at the hands of men like this. She was coerced into marrying him. His behaviour is the abusive partner’s playbook. And she was incredibly young at the time. But sure, she made her bed.
Exactly! 😞
One of my closest friends has been with a guy, got pregnant with him last year and right around that time we all found out he's an offender. The story is pretty similar. He was 20 with a minor. Now he's 44 and started dating her when she was barely 21. We all thought it was weird when they got together why a guy who was so much older would want a very young girl. When we found out he was an offender it all clicked. She doesn't tell me much, but recently she admitted that she keeps finding dating apps, and nudes on his phone. He's just a perv and doesn't stop. I have begged her to leave before her daughter gets to the age he likes(preteen-teenager). She's still there, over text tells me everything is good and she loves him and not sure what we can do at this point.. he has also threatened kidnapping the baby just like this guy. I think they threaten that because they know that they would never get custody in court so they know that they can't weaponize the child any other way.
As someone who was sexually abused as a child. Do not let that man into your life. He's a danger to society. PERIOD. My abuser ended up SAing my cousin, and molesting his daughter. THE EVIL DOES NOT GO AWAY.
Hope your doing better now❤
So sorry this happened to you. I agree with everything you said. Especially your last sentence. I hope you are well.
Predators love to hide behind the church and lurk there…they’ve learned it’s a safe haven where they will be ‘forgiven’ if they play the part all the while still preying on the innocent.
Why do you say "my" abuser instead of the abuser? Strange wording.
@@aruglaempire2518that is weird wording
There is no way a registered sex offender would get custody of the child over the mother.
exactly
I have seen it happen many times. Especially if he presents well ( superficial charm ) and she seems like a bit of a mess either from abuse or mental health issues.
I do not think that was the threat, the way I read it was that this man would steal their child a sell him or her or take them out of the country. This reads a lot more like a hostage situation than a relationship.
I know sex offender that lives with his wife and kids and he molested a little girl
I think he's probably threatened the daughter more than she's she's letting on.
As a Pastors wife who has helped families of abuse victims....call the parole officer! He is dangerous! He needs to be back in jail.
He should've ended the advice there.
Exactly. He threatens to take their baby unless she marries him and John's advice is to all just get along?! His advice here is scary and I hope the dad has enough sense here not to take it!
For getting married n having children?
@@ruthparks5120you obviously didn't watch or listen. He's been around a bunch of teenagers many many times which is a parole violation
?... What rule did he break to send him back😂
If he is near a child and is a registered sex offender REPORT HIM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SERIOUSLY!!!! TF!! 😡😡😡😡
Report him for what
@@nickdelaney6953what do you mean for what???!!! He violated his parole! He is near minors when he’s not allowed to be
@@ethanlonchar I saw that he's on parole I didn't see it at first I thought he wasn't
@@ethanloncharSOs are allowed to be around their biological children as long as their children weren’t the victims.
As a Christian man I 100% believe in 2nd chances and forgiveness in saying that child molesters are a special kind of people you just can't trust at all around children ever.
You're right, they should never be around children again. You can give 2nd chances and forgive and yet still keep up the safety and boundaries of those who can not protect themselves. Part of their redemption and proving themselves worthy of forgiveness is to have ironclad respect for boundaries of others.
I can forgive a snake, bit that doesn't mean I'm gonna let it bite me again.
As Christians.....gotta laugh.
I was married to one, he was not a full blown molester yet or hadn't been caught in anything, but I saw red flags.
His family were churchgoers, but the whole family dynamic was narcissistic with a hyper religious mother manipulating the whole clan.
I believe at some point he had been molested himself.
His brother had passed so we were there for the funeral and after marital relations I went to take a shower and when I got out he was laying on a bed out in the living room with his 16 year old niece. No shower no shirt in pj pants spooning.
I flipped and the entire family saw nothing wrong with it.
I left 6 months later because I couldn't get him to see that that was inappropriate in my eyes.
Well 2 years after me leaving he died of a heart attack 3 weeks before turning 39.
He had a friend he visited frequently with little girls and I had warned the friend when I left that he had boundary issues.
The friend cussed me out for insinuating his friend was a molester.
I called him to let him know hiw friend died and found out he had a warrant out fornhis arrest for molesting his 7 year old daughter.
Forgiveness is one thing if there is acknowledgment of wrong doing and an effort to get therapy or some kind of help. My ex never admitted there was a problem.
Well, no he's one problem less, but that friend has the guilt of not protecting his child after being warned and that 7 year old will have to deal with that the rest of her life.
Don't invite a snake into your home and then cry when you get bit.
There is religious Christians and then there is God, and I'm glad justice was served.
As narcissists that whole family demonized me for speaking up. In my eyes their church going means nothing to me...they had their chance to see truth and do something about it and they turned a blind eye.
They will all have to give account eventually.
As for me...I never knew them.
And I'll never know people who sell out their kids in order to maintain materialistic gain like a home and cars and cushy lifestyle because the pedophile is the provider and breadwinner etc.
I had to start over with nothing, but I have my dignity and peace that I spoke up and did what I could as soon as I saw signs.
His second chance is freedom. It doesn't have to be with you.
If God truly changes the heart of a child molester then he can no longer like children and end up hating that sin. When God saves someone they turn from sin and begin hating it. There is a change of heart. Sin is sin and if you claim to be Christian and you don’t forgive and give a chance to someone who says they’ve truly changed and hate that sin and they are elect, then Christ doesn’t indwell you and you have hatred in your heart. And that’s bad because in Gods eyes if you’re in your sins, you’re just as bad as a murderer or peephole.
As a woman, this mans wife is absolutely insane. I would be so disappointed in my spouse for glossing over a serious crime and saying "forgiveness just because". NOPE, sex offenders are a hard pass in my book, I'm completely with the dad here.
Some women I feel like have been damaged by the church surrounding forgiveness…
I actually know a person who was forced to live with their rapist for a time. It was her older sister’s husband who raped her and confessed to it and everything and asked for forgiveness and my friends family chose “radical forgiveness” and let him stay there in their home with the daughter he raped…
Not saying this can’t happen anywhere but they were Pentecostal fundamentalists… very religious people.
When it happened, I lost so much respect for all of them.
I think she knows her daughter has emotional issues and won't leave. I definitely doubt she actually forgives and accepts this man Doesn't want to lose her daughter and grandson. I'd have trouble too
I can understand the wife from a religious point of view of forgiveness, but the daughter is insane knowing all the facts she wants to go back then deal with it.
I think the wife is also afraid of loosing contact with her daughter and grandchild again. Bc “sex offender” took all of them to Vegas and denied contact
You can forgive , but not let him in
The dad should have immediately called CPS when he found out and gotten emergency custody of that baby. Screw the daughter, she clearly doesn't care about herself or her kid
She believes him when he says it isn't true. However, she knows that his family have convicted child molesters. Does she think that's not true as well? That poor, innocent child.
You are absolutely correct. Protect the innocent. If his daughter wants to be around the baby she can move back home and away from the sexual abuser.
That’s an incredibly simplistic way of looking at it. It’s possible it’s true, but more likely it’s that the daughter is in denial. They say “love is blind” for a reason. It’s easy to armchair quarterback these situations, but no good comes from it. My mother took my sister and her husband to court after getting emergency custody of my nephew, ended up losing the final hearing, and I haven’t seen that kid in 20 years as a result. These things are FAR more complicated than you think, and the consequences if you don’t have all the evidence you need in place before you make a decision like that are far worse. Ppl have to stop thinking this is so easy to deal with, it isn’t.
Yes finally with some sense!
She Is probably the type of woman who love herself More than her kids sadly.
Bad advice here. The caller needs to do two things: call the parole officer and turn the guy in, and sue his daughter for custody of his grandchild. That child is in danger from BOTH parents. The grandparents need to raise that child. The daughter can choose to be part of the child’s life but cannot be allowed to be the child’s guardian until she can demonstrate that she will never put the child in danger.
That is a very risky move to do, i would fear the daughter would resent the father and the mother would perhaps get stuck between this, since they have no unified front (since the wife wants to be the "good holy person" and not put boundaries to protect her grandchild from a Child Rapist)
Bad advice? Or advice that will save a baby from endless trauma?
@@fawnieee oh, honey, it’s pathetic that you think that child won’t end up traumatized by being with that awful mother. Bless your heart.
@@eleonora6980 because the mother is allowing a sex offender to be around the child. Because the mother is allowing a sex offender to violate the terms of his probation around the child. Because the mother is showing blatant disregard for the safety of the child by choosing to aid and abet a criminal rather than do what is necessary to protect the child. Because the mother has shown that she cannot be trusted to do what is in the best interest of the child.
I sincerely hope YOU don’t have children, since you similarly have no concept of why this behavior is unconscionable.
Definitely bad advice.. should the child be with them.
I have zero tolerance for any abuse towards children. Period!
Same.
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Same! I just can’t leave it up to chance because that one chance can effect a child for the rest of their life and I can’t bear being an accessory to that by giving second chances 😢 Especially knowing his history I couldn’t do it. He can “change”; and appear kind and trustworthy just to be closer and prey on more children and I couldn’t take that risk.
@@amandagoudeau1963 Exactly!!!💯
@@amandagoudeau1963 I feel the EXACT same way and I am being ostracized from family for feeling this way. The person in question already violated his parole once within a few months of getting out of prison and that to me shows a lack of character and I fear the worst for my family member, but I cannot sit back and allow this person into my life.
Get this guy thrown back in jail for violating his parole.
How did he violate his parole?
@@christophercarrigg3775 umm… did you not hear the whole convo? He has multiple times by being around kids and teens under 18. When you register you are not allowed to have any contact with anyone under 18 so several times he violated his parole.
@@flashthecorgi2053 I'm only two minutes into the video so far
@@dabd8175 are you crying or something?
@@christophercarrigg3775 why wouldn't you finish listening before commenting?
As a victim of sexual abuse. I would never and could never marry a sex offender. How is he even allowed around the child???
Many sex offender aren't barred from being around kids! It depends on what their " triggers" are and what his crime was. Some people are on that list bcuz they urinated in public while drunk and have ZERO interest in kids....
@@shannonobrien9922 Yet that has nothing to do with this guy in the video or the dude sexually assaulting a 14 year old when he was 20
@@Minecraftisbeast47unfortunately that’s probably why he’s allowed to be around children. The courts dont take SA seriously enough especially when it’s “statutory”. And I think they can always be around their own children unless they’ve offended them. They just have to be supervised which is BS. These creeps get out in 5 years with good behavior.
@@MsAlyMonique
Sex offenders who've offended against children are not allowed around children. The only reason hes been getting away with it is because no one has reported him. The court can even bar them from being around their OWN children.
There are levels to the registry. Level 1, 2, and 3. I think level 3 is the lowest and that would include public urination or indecent exposure with no child victims. Level 2 and 1 are more serious crimes and those levels do carry the "no kids, no drinking, no drugs, no social media, etc". Thie guy in the video was in jail for 2 years, that doesn't happen for public urination.
John missed the mark 100%, these grandparents need to take her to court for full custody asap. This boy is surrounded by predators and abusive men.
Why take chances with a child beign hurt.. if parents can't protect a child then who will? Save the child not the adults.. 😢
That's not unusual.. my son is sex offender and got married to man
@@brettpatetto6847 yeah that’s usually how it goes
@@brettpatetto6847I can't understand why any sensible person could do that
I don’t think the young boy would be in danger around his father. If it was a daughter I’d agree. The extended family is trash tho.
I work in a prison, we have hundreds of these guys here. No matter how much therapy these guys have, adults who touch children are not safe adults. This woman is playing with fire.
This is NOT about religion. Adult men who touch children are irredeemable. He has a sexual orientation toward children, likely for the power.
This man cannot be around children at all. It’s part of the terms of his release and he is a predator.
Horrifying thought, he may have already assaulted the baby or traded him for access to a child in his preferred demographic. SO’s do horrific things to their victims to get their needs met.
This caller has no obligation to do anything for this man. He needs to contact the parole officer now. Damn the relationship with the SO and double-damn the relationship with his daughter. The fact that he called for advice rather than call parole, is astounding.
Unless this man wanted to hear, “Yeah, pray for him and take this terrible advice.”
Well said! 👏🏻👏🏻
I think the advice John gave was terrible. That baby is priority no.1 over everything else. That SO needs to be back in jail ASAP!
You’re allowed to forgive people for making mistakes, but letting someone who has a reputation for hurting children, around children, is irresponsible.
Exactly. Christianity shouldn't even be brought up in this situation. Yes you can forgive as a Christian but to ignore the dangers is unchristian, unsafe, and on sound advice which is basically what Dr John is saying for him to do. Craziness all around here
The daughter is 50% of the problem. She married this loser and had a kid with him. Everything that will protect the kid needs to be done. She should consider a divorce
Did he ever say how old SHE was? He's 27. And she's bipolar.
@@susanfudge1737 at least 18, she's old enough to get married
@@PsychicsRfake456in some states you can get married before age 18 if you're pregnant or with consent from your parents.
@@rebeccaspratling2865 seems like they should have one age across the board
Got the sequence backwards. She had a kid with him and then he used that as leverage to coerce a marriage. And she's got a pretty big mental condition. This situation sounds like a total mess.
Dr. John, this sex offender is either a sociopath or a psychopath. He will not care at all about what the caller has to say to him. In his mind, he doesn’t like being told what to do by anyone. He is a danger to society.
I agree about sociopath or psychopath. They are master manipulators, have no remorse, take no accountability for bad, destructive behaviors, no moral compass. Whatever meets their need, regardless of the damage it does to others, is their goal and they justify their horrible deeds by placing blame onto society being the problem, or everyone else around them. They are so twisted in their minds that they feel completely justified in what ever nasty, despicable thing they have done. They are also experts at manipulating the legal system.
I was thinking the same thing when he was giving that advice... that's not going to work
@@jgirl345worst advice I've ever heard tbh! Get that baby away from that man by any means possible asap! Whatever it takes!
@lindatannock theres alot I don't agree with him on, sometimes I wonder how he's got a degree, granted I'm not a psychiatrist but its common sense
I would make the call to his parole officer regardless. Child sexual abusers should not be around kids. If you know something, you have a responsibility to protect children regardless of the situation.
Exactly, I couldn't live with myself if he assaulted another child all while I actively knew he was violating his parole and never said anything. He's a ticking time bomb that everybody is just watching till it explodes.
Sex offenders are legally allowed around kids
@@nickdelaney6953not unsupervised, at least in my state. Maybe if you live in Alabama...
@@EDUAROSOLAS depends
@@EDUAROSOLAS and you are wrong if one is a parent or married to the parents it's legal
As a Christian, you're supposed to forgive but also be wise as serpents. Why do people think forgiveness means ignoring all bad behavior? Forgiveness doesn't mean throwing away all common sense.
Exactly! Discernment is key!
Don’t forgive pedophiles
'You shall know them by their fruits'. His actions since his conviction and since meeting them tell them everything that needs to be known. It sounds like Mom and Dad both didnt want to upset their daughter in the beginning despite the son in laws lack of character. Sometimes we have to do the right thing, even if it means our child will hate us. The mom is hiding behind forgiveness.
My husband and I are dealing with this in our family currently. A family member is dating a sexually violent predator, and we are being ostracized and judged for not accepting him into our lives. I find it morally reprehensible to victimize children, and as a victim of SA myself, I cannot accept someone who has done this. They believe its the Christian thing to do to accept him and make excuses for how he's good for this person, and we are somehow the bad people for refusing to be around him. I can forgive his transgressions without accepting him in my life and to me, child abuse is unforgivable.
Shanchan..... I'm surprised the "you can't judge me, only God can judge me!" crowd hasn't blasted your comment yet😂
This is the first time I COMPLETELY DISAGREE with his advice!!! This man is a proven pathological liar!!! He’s a master manipulator and is going to take this opportunity to destroy the callers relationship with his daughter… OBVIOUSLY!!!
Call his parole officer today! Period.
Agreed….no breakfast/lunch with this guy….definitely no telling him he will contact the law on him ( could be dangerous) just contact the law and take care of this mess now.
Also the use of language. He didn't 'hook up' with a 14 yr old. He SAed a 14 year old.
Im truly shocked he gave the advise he did!
I frequently disagree with his advice. I’m not sure why I’m even watching this.
Offender is responsible for his actions and took your daughter hostage. You cannot offer him redemption. Remove the child. And she is now responsible for allowing him to remain in the home. I am praying for her strength. ❤
I'm a Christian no sex offenders coming to my house I have nieces and nephews no matter what a common trait among sex offenders they're always lying and over friendly they are not to be trusted
If they're truly repentant they will understand the boundary and not push it.
@@Kathrynismeh no forgiveness for pedophiles
Haha Christian's shouldn't be trusted
Being Christian has absolutely nothing to do with this problem. In fact, it may be detrimental to properly acting to protect the child.
People who claim to live Christian lives eagerly embrace liars, com men, and sexual abusers.
I think grandpa needs to get custody of that baby until his daughter leaves.
Over what grounds
@@nickdelaney6953she married a sex offender
She been mentally unstable (bipolar) and having her kid close to a sex offender that is violating his parole!!
@@nickdelaney6953you're a pdfile.
@@nickdelaney6953 that he's a registered sex offender
As a mom, how do you trust your baby is safe with his father in situations like this? You can't. Your life would never be peaceful.
Denial. These women sleep well at night without a care because denial is one of the most powerful things. They feel removed from the situation because it couldn’t happen to them, it happened to “someone else”.
U are actually more dangerous statistics show that
That woman clearly knew he was a sex offender the whole time and didn't care now she's trying to make up a bunch of stories to justify it to her family
@@nickdelaney6953
Actually I've looked into men's claims about this. Because there are so many single mothers these days due to a lack of accountability from men, on the surface it appears they are worse. But as soon as a man becomes involved in a child's life, the statistical likelihood of something traumatic happening skyrockets.
This is why context is just as important as the statistic itself.
@@pinkpugginz I am suspicious. Considering he already behaves a busivelt, I wouldn't be surprised if he trapped her first and now she either won't leave due to sunken cost fallacy or she doesn't feel like she has a choice.
Studies reveal that about 93% of men think it's acceptable to get a woman to lay with them even if they convinced her through lying. They don't see it as coercion or borderline grape. Which it absolutely is.
No, as someone who was abused as a prepubescent child by an older cousin. Keep predators away from your kids, and if your kid expresses discomfort around someone, believe them and keep them away from that person.
Exactly, because it’s not that they ever learn their lesson.. they just become better at hiding things and manipulating everything.
Heck NO! There’s no way in hell he’d be allowed anywhere near my home. That’s a very very hard pass from me.
To the father... do not accept this. You know this guy is bad news for your daughter and the rest of your family. Keep supporting your daughter and grandchild but stay strong and stick to your convictions.
Poor decision? Define his poor decision. If it was a lame duck 18 yo dating a 15 yo illegal but not rape or molestation etc. if it’s the latter, you’re insane to call it a poor decision. It was a damn choice and those that commit those choices are repeat offenders more often than not.
@Rich Vidal LOL
@Rich Vidal keep supporting your Son in Law. This was a poor decision, when you make a decision it is by definition a choice so he made a bad decision, but from what it sounds like now is that he is doing well, learned his lesson, and is an active member of society. This is the sad part, if a drug dealer was convicted of selling drugs to a minor multiple times. People talk like he made a mistake and should not be judged for it if he paid his debt to society. However, if someone is an RSO they continue to be judged by the worst day of their life, pay their debt to society, become productive members but no matter what they are always judged continuously for that worst day even if they never re-commit their crime. Once your debt is paid ALL criminals should be treated as rehabilitated when released, period no continual punishment.
@Rich Vidal Did he piss in public or rape a child? It depends on what they did. If he did the latter, he isn’t a stand up person, he might portray as a good guy but that’s exactly what they do. Allowing them back into society is directly allowing a known offender to harm more kids.
@@arturofederico8928 There isn’t a long enough jail sentence for a molester, allowing them back into society places children near him in danger. If he pissed in public, that’s forgivable but if he raped a woman or abused a child, he shouldn’t be unleashed back into society at all. They’re dangerous, they can portray as good guys but that doesn’t make them less of a danger of ruining someone’s life.
My cousin is engaged to a sex offender who’s currently serving a 10 year prison sentence…. no one seems to care. I’ve had to cut all contact.
He's in prison and your cousin is engaged? How does a sex offender jailbird get even farther than the rest of us single folks????
Unfortunately the partners tend to live in delusion.
Your cousin must have abysmally low self-esteem.
Lisa Terkeurst Boundaries and Goodbyes study is on RUclips. Every young woman should listen to this free study. Just eight sessions. Boundaries are Godly. Forgiveness is mandated by God for (your )peace.
@@SweetEssie Your standards are just too high. It’s remarkably to find SOMEONE just not THE one.
They're cutting the daughter too much slack. She isn't just sitting by, she married this guy. She had to marry him? No judge would give this guy sole custody. And she is literally complicit. She got pregnant and married the dude.
Right! People here saying they don’t agree with the dad opting out but hey she needs to learn and make the best decision for her child and herself.
@@faxoxo2306 Man, maybe she doesnt know/see her options!
Either divorce or report him.
Facts‼️
He said she's bipolar so we don't know where her mental state was at that time so maybe she really feels as if he will take the kid and we don't know what else is going on their relationship.. Clearly sounds abusive if not physically emotionally and verbally
His daughter sadly is enabler
Too many people play around with predators. Police and cps need to be informed
I would get a lawyer and try to get custody of the child before something happens.
If he hasn't already with all of the sex offenders that baby is around.
Their baby will be the next victim if she doesn’t leave him.
You can't know that for sure. I know people who have killed people but would never kill people they love.
@@firefly9838 murder is different than SA of a child dude. Offenders pick victims they have easy access to. Who does he have the easiest access to? The child. The likelihood of him doing it to the child is very high.
@@firefly9838you say “you don’t know that for sure “ , so how do you know for sure they wouldn’t kill the people they love
@@firefly9838definitely know for sure . He has a sexual thing for kids. That means he thinks about kids because we all have sexual thoughts . Sometimes they just pop up in our heads .
@@firefly9838 Are you a p3do?
Their marriage is legally voidable by the daughter. She married him under duress-meaning that their marriage contract is not binding upon her.
Exactly. It’s easy to get an annulment
My question is will Vegas even see that as avoidable marriage. Or even in the state they live in. Because I'm telling you right now this woman married a sex offender under emotional distress and if you think this dude is going to let her go easily no way this is one of those men that's like if I can't have you well any repercussions towards me nobody can. This is a guy who's I think the moment she really starts to stand up and say enough is enough he's going to kill her and their baby this is a guy who knows automatically that he's prepared to kill the caller's daughter and the call is grandchild because they cannot handle the fact that he couldn't Not only was his story found out but now he could be looking at potential prison time and maybe even longer than the original two years he was in there.
Maybe she wants to be married to him
She probably feels she can “save” him or something, sadly.
May depend on the length of time since the marriage. And she's not likely to pursue an annulment from what I'm hearing.
That daughter is just as a menace to society as that sex offender. I’m with the dad no where near my house.
Amen
Common for adopted people to be mentally ill from the trauma.
@@rebeccaspratling2865
It’s also common for a lot of sex offenders to have been traumatized as well and suffer from mental illness so do they get a pass? Of course not.
That’s why he went for her. He would tell she’s easily manipulated, insecure etc. I was watching this documentary where a pedo stated that they will get into a relationship with a women for the baby they will provide. Than they will abuse that baby, record it, distribute and or exchange videos with other sicko. These women are also the root of the problem. Stop giving underserving men babies.
@@chill3282 I wasn't giving a pass to anyone so why would I give a pass to predators? Just spreading awareness since it's so common for people to pay others to birth children for these these days, causing more chaos in the world when it's preventable.
Shockingly horrible, horrible, horrible advice. Contact the parole officer, contact the district attorney, get an excellent attorney.
Zero forgiveness for child molesters
He forced the daughter to marry him so she cannot testify against him. She and the child are in serious danger. His wife is in denial and living in a fantasy world. Only the 14-year-old girl and her parents can "forgive him" if he ever chooses to admit his guilt. This is dangerous. Hire a private detective to document his behavior so you know what is really going on. Turn it over to the authorities if he violates his restrictions. If and when the daughter is ever ready or needs documentation for a divorce and child custody, show it to her.
She can testify, she just can’t be FORCED to testify against him
@@mrskitty7929 That's what I wanted to say.
This man should check whether coercive control is a criminal offence in his state.
Excellent advice
Dr. John, here’s one for ya. A young friend who was 18 at the time was having a sexual relationship with a lady in her early 30’s who happen to have a daughter who was 16. Her mother found out that he was having a relationship with both of them. Mother filed charges and now he is a RSO...
Did I hear this man right in saying his wife “has a big heart and wants everyone to be happy”??? Her child was forcibly married and is living with a PREDATOR. Protect your child however old she is and do the right damn thing and call the police. How is this even a hard choice?!?! What is wrong with people??
*EXACTLY!!*
This is why I have a hard time with Christians. They generally are doormats.
@@semosancus5506 I feel the same way.
@@semosancus5506
I have a hard time with generalization.
Prejudice and shallowness/superficiality are not for me..
@@FrogeniusW.G. Sure I still judge each as an individual and only with cause. I often find that people attempt to apply their understanding of Jesus's message to their life and it just doesn't add up to me. Would Jesus invite a convicted sex offender into house with children? Maybe, but he might also have such a powerful personality that the sex offender would not act up. There aren't many people that can command that kind of respect so people need to be cautious acting exactly as Jesus would. Your results may be wildly different then Jesus'.
His entire family are SAs.
She and her child are in danger! Dad needs to call this guy's parole officer!
Yes, his daughter loves her husband so much
Dating/Marrying a sex offender is next level insanity. This man needs to fight for custody of that baby. That kid is not safe what so ever
Not insanity, don’t remove culpability. She chose, which reflects a lack of love for her kids. Call a spade a spade.
@@hillarybillary21 Didn't sound like she was given a choice to not marry him. He's quite a manipulator. Her own mental health is not helping.
@@hillarybillary21she's bipolar and was made to marry him under duress. Like ... There has to be a law or something about this!
I cannot even imagine what her thought process was....to knowingly date/marry a convicted sex offender who was convicted of lewd acts w/ a minor (14-20) is disgusting. It's not as if she was 16 and he turned 18 and her parents got pissed.. or something along those lines...it's an adult pursuing a child. That's abhorrent.
@@Brit626 That requires an attorney. That's awful!
No! No! No! Call his parole officer. He has not learned, he's not trustworthy. His family and upbringing is evidence that he's not safe! That grandchild is at risk.
Is there a follow-up to this call?
Not everyone deserves to be forgiven. Most offenders will offend again.
The son-in-law is an absolute abuser and it sounds like his whole family of origin is as well. This is not someone to safely accept into your family in anyway shape or form. Call his parole officer immediately and discuss at length the pattern of lies and parole violations. Don’t have breakfast with him. Don’t allow him in your house.
Yeah, I didn’t like that part of the advice. He needs to let the parole officer deal with it. And then be there to help his daughter and grandson when that POS is back in jail.
My brother in law molested his daughter and was found guilty. Did some time in jail - weekends for 18 months. My sister married him as soon as his trial was over. Neither will discuss what happened. Its been 20 years and I just can't be around him. Of course he didn't do it according to other family members. I don't know why - but he is not on sex offenders list. All I know is my grandchildren will never know him. End of story.
Protect those babies ❤
My Advice:
Talk to your daughter and tell her she has two options; Either she takes a lawyer (which you offer to pay) and *divorces* him *or* you'll *report* him.
Why even spend the money. Pick up the phone and he'll be picked up in the day.
This is a great option. This also allows for the relationship with the daughter to remain salvageable.
100%.
Just report him regardless
Still need a divorce lawyer
I do not understand the advice AT ALL. Call the parole officer. How many children will he hurt before someone stops him. They. Never. Change. My heart breaks for his future victims 💔 .
Sometimes they DO change if they really become saved.
@@fayejordan175saved? As in from a religious perspective? Wake up!
@@tessajones9393 I am skeptical, but I do think they can change. I think God can work in people’s lives and they can change. Would I completely trust them? No.
There is no such thing as penance for this man. Be real about this, he likely took a plea, so what he did is probably worse than the actual conviction. He is violating parole. He is manipulating, lying and exerting power at every turn. This father should be fighting for his grandchild. He should be calling the parole officer, social services, and an attorney. Sex abuse is a generational cycle in his family. Child sex abuse is a soul killer. I absolutely would NEVER leave my grandchild in that situation. So disgusted at John’s advice.
A friend did something similar when her family cut her off she left the guy within about a month. Her family cutting her off might have saved her life.
@@LeRoseNoireV true! It’s a fine line and no easy answer
How is your friend doing now?
@@GravityGrave she's alive married with one kid this is almost 20yrs later.
EXCELLENT POINT!
Threatening him with the idea of reporting him to the parole officer, if he steps out of line, is dangerous. Now days some people who are threatened shoot people. He doesn't want to be threatened in anyway that means he'll go back to prison.
I agree with you. I think now that a baby is brought into the world, we are past more chances. At this point, the focus needs to be on protecting the baby.
@@jet4653
"At this point, the focus needs to be on protecting the baby." 👌Exactly.
I can I see him convince her to kill her family,, to stay in love
@@catcoffee7958
Hopefully he won't try to do that. He's tired to do, to get his way, shows he doesn't love her.
Ah yes so historically no one ever shot each other, just “nowadays”. Would ya look at all the high IQ’s in this comment section!
If it was my daughter, I'd tell her that if and when she gets rid of this character, you'll be there for her. She's an adult now and married. Let her go and wish her well.
Are you suggesting that they cut her off? Because that's exactly what I'm thinking. Clearly their daughter really lacks morals and obviously I don't know why. But she's not a good quality person. She's a grown woman now who chose to be a degenerate. She would have to get rid of him come before she could come to my home again. Sounds harsh, but we're playing with fire here.
@@veracityhunter7777 Not so much cutting off, but definitely backing off. The daughter knows how they feel. The ball in fully in her court.
@@9liveslisa I get it
And be prepared for the daughter to show up on your step pregnant again. That’s what these sickos do for control.
The problem is there is a children that needs to be protected. If the parents are not responsible then the grandparents have to step in.
The absolute priority here is the grandson. The priority is to get him into a safe environment. This is a family with a pattern of abuse, there is no reason to think anything has changed to end the cycle. If that child is abused it is too late to fix it, being abused by a family member is a scar you carry always and forever. Even the daughter doesn’t matter right now in comparison to that poor child, she has a choice and that grandson has zero control.
If she isn’t careful they will train the son up in their devious ways
I have so much respect for this father searching for a answer for his daughter.. this situation is a nightmare for a parent 😢
You can't reason with a sex offender. He broke parole, put him back in jail. That fixes the problem for the daughter, she can get away from him. They reoffend. Period.
My neighborhood has a few sex offenders living there they live with their kids
Amen
why can't you reason with a sex offender?
@@sub-harmonik Are you serious?
@@Veracityseeker7 yeah what does that mean, how would a sex offender stop you from using reason
No way would I accept him. You can never forgive someone who touches a child.
in some states you can be label a sex offender for public masturbation or peeing in public, nobody needs to be victimized for you to be label one.
@@gmadera7 Did you not read the comment? Your response has nothing to do with what was said
@@gmadera7 peeing I can see but normal people don't jerk it in public. That is victimizing people..
@@OdtheanThat’s why Dr. John clarified the situation before continuing. This wasn’t that type of situation.
@@ToLovelyJesus exactly. Also there are “Romeo and Juliet” situations
TWO YEARS is the "easy way out" of charges? No one goes to jail for 2 years unless the deck and evidence is clearly stacked against him.
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. He made out with a 14 year old but they didn’t have sex? And he went to jail for two years for that? I think I would go to the county courthouse where he was convicted and ask to see the files. It should be public record. They won’t have the name of the victim in there but you can see exactly what he was charged with and convicted of. You could also try talking to the parole officer but I’m not sure what all they can share with you. But I would definitely let them know he violated right away.
Yes, pleading guilty is easier sometimes because if you plead innocence, but the deck is stacked against you (the evidence doesn’t show it) then you get MORE time than if you would’ve plead guilty.
@@ntmn8444 If the deck is stacked against you, then you're guilty to begin with.
That's not right.
There are plenty of innocent people who take the deal and go to jail for 3 to 5 years instead of playing the odds in trial and risk going for 25 years if they lose, because it depends on a jury with emotional people and a prosecutor who will do anything in his power to put you down.
If he was guilty without a doubt, he wouldn't have been offered a deal or such a short time in jail.
But he might also be the worst person on the planet. All i'm saying is it's not black or white.
@YD thank you! Clearly these people don't understand that. Some innocent people spent 20 plus years in jail for stuff they didn't do all because they decided not to take the deal
Do not ever, and I mean EVER, let a sex offender think that what they did is simply a prison sentence they had to serve. Do not ever let them think their life will ever be normal again. What you need to do, is sue for grandparents rights. That child is in the home of a registered sex offender.
That's counterproductive though. Once a sex offender has served their sentence, they should be able to return to normal lives, except they shouldn't be allowed to be alone with children. If they're treated like crap and come to the conclusion life outside jail isn't any better than in jail, what's stopping them from doing such things again?
@@alpha-sama No they shouldn't, and I will die on this hill. They can't change who they're attracted to just like I can't change that I'm attracted to men and that's never change. There's two things you can do, you can ice them out and protect the children of your family, or you can welcome them in with open arms and serve your kids to them on a silver platter. Those are the only two ways that can go and I've never seen any evidence that would say otherwise. Simply refraining from physically reaching on an impulse, or a need doesn't change that the need is there and nothing else will satisfy that.
There is no such thing as grandparents rights. Except they could try to get full custody because of the obvious danger to the child and the mother is easily manipulated.
When the caller said the daughter’s husband comes from a family of sex offenders….of CHILDREN, that’s where the conversation should have ended. Take the baby and keep him AWAY from that family!!!!
The only safe person that poor baby is ever going to have is this man and maybe his wife. I feel so sorry for this child.
Not the wife, she is willing to forgive
This is weird advice my guy… he just told you that this dude is a registered sex offender and his father and brothers are also convicted sexual predators who live with him.. that means their granddaughter is in the same home as multiple male sex offenders.. why would you tell this man to try and create some sort of relationship with the guy when he told you right off the bat how much he can’t stand the guy. Everything about this call was pointing in the direction of ending this relationship by any means necessary. This isn’t the time for this guy to play the tough dad role and try to mentor this grown adult sex offender into behaving well enough for him to accept him.. you should reach back out to him and give him better advice!
He said this so the grandparents have access to the grandchild so they have a chance of protecting the baby.
If that many sexual predators live with the wife and baby...more than likely that infant is already being sexually abused...ugh...sickening to even think about...Rescue that baby...
Well said!
@@Meskaruneif the baby lives with even one of these monsters, there’s no real protection the grandparents can provide with weekend/holiday visits. The daughter is sick for even being with this predator worse marrying and having a child with him. Wtf is wrong with HER? That’s the real question.
Agreed! Bad call, JD!
Don’t give in to toxic Christianity - yes I said it.
It’s a matter of providing a safe environment for that child. The daughter has a choice.
The Father is still her Father & can provide insight to HER. And then it’s up to her.
I’d still report him to his new parole officer though.
100% I'm so sick of it. The stuff I've seen and heard from so called Christians makes me sick. (I'm a Christian to be clear) but this is b.s
Too many red flags to be kind to him. Protect your daughter and grandbaby.
1. IMMEDIATELY report him
2. File for custody of the grandchild or
3, offer to pay for an attorney IF she’s willing to get an annulment AND have no further contact with him
But above and before anything else report him to get him back into custody and simultaneously removing his influence over her.
A 20 year old should know not to mess with middle school age girls, thats irredeemable & I have no sympathy for him. Put him back in jail for violating parole.
Moral of the story: Instill self worth in your kids
Self esteem comes from YOURSELF. Parents can be good to their kids, but kids spend more time with other kids at school than they do their families. Your parents can tell you that you’re smart and beautiful, but if your peers say differently, you’ll believe your peers when you’re young.
Sometimes you kids just make bad choices and sadly have to learn the hard way
@@toscadonna this is unfortunately true.
she was adopted at 2 years old! can you comprehend that??
She has bipolar which aggressively and severely skews her reality. This is a real factor.
My ex husband, my daughter's biological dad, abused her. You can never be too careful.
Oh, this is pathetic.
Absolutely not. He needs to be reported to the parole officer.
He's a dad
@@nickdelaney6953 and? My father victimized me. Countless fathers do. In fact, the person most likely to victimize a child is usually their father or uncle or brother. Being a father doesn't mean anything to offenders.
What can pedophiles do? 1. Stop gaslighting online
2. Seek therapy asap
3. Avoid people under the age of 20 like the plaque
4 Don't date or marry anyone more than ten years older than you. That's creepy
5. Don't date or marry anyone more than five years older than you if you're ages to 25.
That's nasty!
6. Yes, if you were SA as a child too this is unfair. Brutally unfair. But if I contracted Ebola I would have no right to then expose others to it to deal with my grief. No court on earth has ever let accepted this legal argument.
7. I have a lot of empathy for those who are addressing this. If this was my brother or husband and he hadn't acted on it I would see him separately from mine and any children and support him. I would fight like hell that my husband only have supervised visitation and if he was genuine and not trying to manipulate that's what he would want too.
8. So for all those making excuses for letting pedophiles have access to the children, do the hell better.
CORRECTION! Don't date anyone ten years YOUNGER than you... and don't date anyone FIVE years younger than you...
AND please don't send me a bunch of examples of how you married a 28 year old when you graduated high school and you're so happy. I'm sincerely sorry your parents radar wasn't tuned up. Jerry Seinfeld dated a high schooler when he was in his 30s. He and her parents should have been investigated by CPS.
I’m a child of my father who is a sex offender, child molester. Don’t trust this man! I beg you! Please! Protect the children!
As soon as he said his daughter married a sex offender and had a kid by him. I had more red flags about the daughter than the son-in-law..... And then as he started to explain the daughters just a mess
He needs to get a lawyer and start looking into what rights he has as a grandparent and how to get custody!
All you have to do is take a look at the recidivism rates for child sex offenses and there’s your answer!
The difference between a 20 year old and a 14 year old is completely inappropriate and disgusting.
Sexual offenders are where I draw a very hard line.
Child molesters can not and should not be trusted under any circumstances.
Trust is what predators want you to give them so they can gain access to the children in your home.
Predators also like to prey on single mothers because they know those women are vulnerable and looking for a man to help them with their kids.
Do not ever let a sexual offender into your home or family.
No conversation with him Dr John! Just report his butt! The father isn't equipped to hold his parole in his hands. I was on board with everything you said up to this point. This guy is not a trained professional and the dude is sex offender with a bi-polar daughter and kid. You cannot coach him to be an "accountability partner." The dude broke the law. Send him back to jail.
I am very concerned about that Grandchild! What kind of a life does he have!
Me too. I would be mostly concerned with the grandchild being molested by the father.
Lots of kids are born to horrible parents. If we used state resources to help each and everyone of them, we would be bankrupt and the tax rate would be 98%.
20 yr old with 14 yr old!! ZERO reason for him to be with a minor!!
exactly, especially when the age of consent is as young as it is in most states
You are right, he probably doesn't have own a home or have a good job, how would he take care of her? She should be with a real man.
Yall do know 20 is still a kid right. Yea he should not ben with 14 but let's not talk Like he some 35 year old grow man. The boy needs help for sure. But people like yall is the reason why this country fuckup. It's not ok for he be with someone young but it's not also ok too Ruin has life. He was 20 not a grown ass man with wisdom. We all know u don't really become grown into ur late 20s in 30s
@@deangelomalone2008 Actually YOU and people who think like you are the reason why 20yr old MEN think its “normal” to even CONSIDER dating a 14yr old CHILD!
Who asked for your opinion anyway?
So disagree with the advice offered. Turn him in for violating parole. And file for custody with the courts.
I’d get all of the event photos where he was there and tell his parole officer and report my daughter to CPS. The baby is in danger and he has to choose the grandchild over his daughter.
100%! His whole family has proven they can't be trusted around kids.
I agree. The grandchild is the priority now.
ABSOLUTELY the WORST advice!!!!! Because of the specific nature of his crime, he must be kept away from all children! The grandfather should sue for custody of his grandson!
She’s not trapped. She wants to be with him.
Thank you! When the dad talked about his daughter being forced, it did not ring true. He is ashamed to admit to raising a woman who could make such horrible choices.
I 100% agree with you
No sex offender recovers. No sex offender should be near kids. The only problem is that something like urinating in public is considered and offense. Which i dont think is the same, as the intent is different. Im so sorry that this man is in her life.
To the caller: no one except the victim is in a position to forgive him, let alone your wife. Does that make sense? You may not like what he did, but he did NOT do it to you.
Perfectly said!!
This answer was way off the mark.
The child’s safety wasn’t even the main focus here. And it should have been.
CPS should be involved. And the grandparents should go to court to get custody.
No, no, no. This man should not be the gatekeeper. Dont put that on him. Parole officer should be involved, tgis man has NO power in this relationship. Report, report, report.
How on earth does a convicted sexual offender successfully threaten a female that he will take her son/child away? Like what leg up does he have on her that she’d believe that?
She's mentally unwell and vulnerable. It's not difficult for a male psychopath to threaten a woman in that situation, particularly by using her child as leverage.
Right? The court system absolutely would not grant him custody.
Kidnapping?
Hexsaidcshes bipolar I'd like to know if she is well regulated and under a psychiatrist, because not being g medicated screws up judgement decision making etc. Her poor child doomed living in the environment of granddad the molester, uncles who mo,est, Dad who does, and a mentally unstable mother. Poor child.
When the D is good, the D is good! It’s all a load of crappy excuses stacked on top of each other.
I would be way less forgiving. I would fight my kid for the grandchild. No child should be around a father who let's his father around who molested a family member. If that means my daughter hates me I am okay with that. She is not my priority. That innocent baby is.
Just because you may be forgiven, doesn't mean your actions should be forgotten.
People forget that just because you have done your time doesn't mean you should be trusted. Getting a person's trust is a privilege not a right and the person convicted of a crime so heinous should be expected to recieve this reaction.
There's no way in hell i would allow him anywhere near my family. I would contact his parole officer. I would do whatever i had to do to get him out of my daughter's life. As a victim of abuse, this makes me sick...
Especially as a Christian, no way would I welcome a sex offender into my life. The Lord commands us all to protect the innocents/children and that means keeping dangerous people at a distance. You can do that without being unkind or wishing ill on anybody. It's all about calculating the risk, and there IS risk, so 🤷 that's a no.
interesting. you accept god into your home and he spiritually assaulted mary who could not give informed consent.i'd start with kicking god out immediately and then youll be logically consistant.
@@Raziel699 I'll pray for you.
I would call the parole office today - even if the child ends up in foster care.
The child would go to the grandparents, not foster care.
I know , I wouldn’t even use it as a threat. Just do it. This dude is a creep
@@susanfudge1737 depending if the courts decided they were safe.
His daughter is in danger and he needs to stop it before it gets worse
District attorneys make deals so the victim doesn't have to testify. It was more than likely worse offense that was pled out
i loved this caller, what a dad, nothing but respect for you sir.
Bad advice to tell the father to offer weekly meetings to the husband and essentially threaten him into being accountable and a better man. This will trigger the guy to move daughter and grandson away, and possibly be more controlling and abusive.
This is the problem with America right here! People deliberately break the law, and we think we need to be forgiving Christians and let it slide. This whole conversation is about letting it slide with him and nobody’s going to report him for everything that he violated during his parole and continues to violate. Get this guy back in prison ASAP.this is a joke. America stop being so worried about accepting and forgiving. If people break the law, they need to be held accountable.
Kansas is a mother state.
she needs to get out of that relationship and get custody.
It is much easier than she is aware of
HOW IS THIS A QUESTION!!!!!! I don't care about the circumstances, how he pled, if he pled that way due to bad advice, he is a CONVICTED sex offender who pled guilty - there is NO way he is going to be around my family and I am not going to play nice for the daughter's sake - NO WHERE AROUND me and mines
They need to protect the baby!!!! Their daughter is not protecting the baby & the husband is not safe with his own child, nor are his family members. They gotta get the kid out of there!!!!
How could you just ignore the fact that he literally threatened your daughter with taking away their kid😂? Hell naw I'd calling his parole Officer right away and report everything illegal he has done!
These grandparents need to call his parole officer. Period. It’s not a matter of simply avoiding him, that baby is at major risk for life long issues, that baby is not safe. He’s violated his parole several times, call. The. PO.
Dude this is infuriating. Our justice system protect these people. He did not get the penalty he deserved. He should be locked up forever. He should be six feet under. wtf. That baby is in more danger than anyone is talking about right now
Disturbing advice in this video. Don’t open your door to a manipulator for breakfast, he will just manipulate the father. Report the parole violations. Support your daughter and grandchild to get them out.
I can’t even believe I’m hearing about an olive branch being offered. There’s one basic human instinct that might even be stronger than sex, protecting children. He and his family are clearly predators, and the daughter is not strong enough to keep her son and other safe dad needs to tow the line strictly and let him know that his crime will never be forgotten
If this man coerced her into marriage, then he’s not safe to talk to alone, he’s not safe to be left alone with his daughter. Threatening him could make him punish her or their child. She needs to be supported and separated from this man because nothing good is going on behind closed doors. Horrible situation, I hope they get them away from him safely.