@@FranklyBuilt Looking forward to your in depth thoughts on the Bambu situation. As a "set it and forget it" type of printer, it's getting really hard to separate the justifiable concerns vs conspiracy
4 years ago the X1Cs were the best by magnitudes of order. Like comparing the bronze age to the industeial age. But now? Not a single thing special about them. Except maybe their obsession with apple-izing their company, making everything proprietary, subscription based, locked down, spied on and highly regulated. I mean, what could possibly be more secure than a chinese communist party cloud server? Your personal home network? Psshhh you crazy misinformation spreaders. Shut up, consume product, and get excited for next product we totally wont strip features from. Because we super CCP pinky promise.
I think that anything relating to a subscription or locking you to their filament is conspiracy. If they ever did do either of those, Im fairly certain they would only do it for printers that came out after a change would announced, but I don't think they would even do that. @@dillonbuescher
There really isnt. Everyone is just crying about the update. There really isnt another printer on the market right now that competes with Bambu lab printers at the price point. You can get something close but its going to be insanely frustrating and just be a pain to use / have quality issues. e.g creality. Stop by and read anything about creality. lol
At this point the damage is already kinda set in stone. If they had immediately back tracked 100% the damage would have been minimal but that’s not what they did.
One thing I would tell any new would be buyers is never buy a new model, unless you don't mind being a little hands on with the hardware. Every printer has a maiden run where they work out the kinks and minor issues (even the X1C did). Waiting on a totally new printer is like rolling the dice you may roll 6's or snake eyes.
@@iopfarmer but their closest alternative to the A1 is the Prusa Mini, but it is more comparable to the A1 Mini because it is smaller, yet it costs 90-120 dollars more than the full sized A1.
Dang, excellent feedback, what a helpful video. We were literally JUST about to buy the A1 Combo, our first venture, when all this hit the fan. So this info is hugely appreciated. And reading the comments, it seems everyone is supporting your stance. We'll be getting a Creality. Huge thanks!!
To EVERYONE ELSE watching this video... I can't thank Frank enough for this video. The timing was perfect even though I have no personal intentions of jumping ship from Bambu at present. As always though, just a perfect video of nothing but the info that a targeted question is about with a lot of answers for free... Personally glad to see the Creality K1 Max show up in this video, as it's the only one from this video that I have personally seen run. I DEFINITELY think that one is a perfect starting place for anyone that hasn't used anything but Bambu. They are all I have personally used so far, but I've been looking at the K1 Max because of what I know it can do and all the similarities to Bambu and all of that. 🍻
My biggest complaint with K1 Max is it won't detect filament jams. Also I've already had to replace the feed tube going into the extruder on two of them within a month of using them. Even unfilled filament eventually cuts the very tight bend in the tube. I've replaced them with reputable sources of PTFE tubing and we'll see if they hold up better.
I respect and appreciate this approach you made. The core to this hobby and why I love 3D printing is problem solving. And coming out with a video that gives reasonable alternatives that’s well worded is bringing solutions rather than just pointing out issues. I’m looking forward to the video you make if you decide to make a video. I plan to get back to RUclips videos that cover self care/home care videos that focus on staying productive and have been picking up on how I’ll approach that topic. Overall, these are great tools and making sure we keep in mind these are tools, helps us stay productive and creative. Regardless of brand and style, staying informed on your tools and other options available only allows you to be more efficient with projects. Ever since I got my Prusa XL, I’ve been open to checking options (started with bambu). Thinking about getting the core one but also want to try out other brands and their software. Keep up the great work!💪🏼👍🏼
7:50 this is aimply genuis. I think this is 100% the way to go. Having an upgrade system for existing printers makes the company even more money, AND avoids existing printers going obselete. This is a step I really like.
That was a great bit of info. I had decided to jump from Anycubic printers to Bambu pretty much the day before all this came out. So insane that with so much competition they would try to go the anti-consumer route.
As someone with a p series I agree. I thought they had a perfect niche in the market, with a beginner friendly and expert friendly. It's a shame to see them shutout the more advanced users from using their printers
I've learned that most of the people angry right now are just parroting what someone else said and hasn't even tried to research for themselves. 😂 My X1C is still hands down the best printer I've owned. Might try a Prusa in the future, but no amount of screw ups would ever make me even consider going back to Creality.
@@Thedudeman8282 but they've taken away features on their latest firmware update, they havent resolved their attempted gaslighting, and their security got hack right after. Theyve aren't backing down to locking down their machines. Which isn't what the 3d printing community's want. 3d printing is a hobby for makers, which means it include those having skills to tinker and mod, and want freedom with their machine.
@@oneanother1 tinkering is fine, but this was not the machine for that to begin with. As for the security features, that's a whole different issue entirely, it doesn't really affect me in the slightest so I can't be angry about it. The only dog I have in this fight right now is to keep people away from Creality. They build bad printers and I don't want any beginners to get caught in that trap.
K1 Max is Definately the Beat Option vs a Bambu as far as a replacement option. Bigger build size, Lidar, decent camera and time lapse. Plus Creality is offering upgrade option for the hotend and with the CFS Retro Fitting of the K1 series of Printers in February. You not losing anything. Your actually gaining if you like open source and root access for the hard-core users/modders.
@xRaptorScreamx I agree the lidar is there so someone's peace of mind. Whether it works or not I couldn't tell you. I have never uses the one on ours. Q1 Pro is great too but the build size in comparison 245x245x240 To 300x300x300 is the winning factor. It's nice having a heated Chamber but the Creality K1 Max has more upgrades available to add a heated options.
Great info! My sons really want to get into 3D printing but it is pretty overwhelming with all of the printers on the market. We were looking at getting the Bambu Carbon X1C but backed off because of the current issues they are having. You gave us some good alternatives to look at,thanks man! I subscribed to your channel about a week ago because I can tell you give your honest opinion and don't sugar coat it,keep up the good work!
Thank you for doing this video. It is not just helpfull in of itself regardless of the situation, but it is also good because it helps the community and the industry as a whole. It gives moving us forward. It's not "bambu bad because"(which at this point everybody that can understand, does understand) but is also a solution. Thumbs up my man. much love
CHeck out anycubic, i think they have the best Bambu clone actually, but im biased my first printer was a Vyper. Theyre just not aggressive like elegoo and creality with marketing, so they rely on word of mouth like me... (im still waiting for my free printer anycubic, jk youre not perfect either, but the few people that i seen review your bambu clone it looked good) *wink*wink*
Thank you frank as always for the information and the Fantastic video I have a k1 max from you recommendation and I love it And my prints are beautiful
@@cylonmode I suppose the bed size was chosen to provide an upgrade path for Mk4 owners. I hope they'll offer an upscaled version at some point, but for me the size of the Core One is sufficient for most jobs, and I appreciate the small footprint with my limited shop space.
the price is ridiculous, the bed size is funny, the upgrade path makes no sense, seems to be non competetive in speed, multimaterial, quality and price, Prusa didnt come up with anything on his own for like a decade and just continues to capitalize on unpatented open source projects and hes an egocentric narcissist who lacks a responsibility brain circuit. Just buy a voron kit because everyone thinks that bambu is bad but hey lets jump to these other chinese companies that are definitely much better morally and wont pull some shenanigans later that seems like a great idea Without bambu the alternatives to bambu wouldnt exist probably by now and prusa would be making an unclosed MK5 bedslinger and elegoo would continue cloning the CR10 or smth
One printer I often recommend is the Infimech TX. Core XY, similar size to K1, but it's built like a brick! Around 300 USD, and I've had great results with them (I have 3). Something I also really really like about them is that they are built with open source parts, they still use V6 style (volcano) nozzles, and it feels easy to service.
I first found out about Infimech when Aurora Tech reviewed the TX and it has been a very solid machine for the price point! Weirdly underdiscussed given the value. The serviceability is great as it's important to me since most of my other printers are Creality K1s and they are kind of a pain with how the extruder and carriage are set up.
So glad I ran across this video. I was primed to buy a Bambu A1 Combo when I heard about this total crap garbage they were trying to pull. They can backpedal all they want to as far as I'm concerned. The thought that they would stoop so low in the first place is all the reason I need to look elsewhere. The Creality Hi Combo it will be then!
@@Akira.Nibbai no, because they're basically garbage machines... You don't build their badly warped print beds yourself, do you? But they are notorious for shipping badly warped print beds right out of the box.
This really is irony with Ender 3 being the OG clone of Prusa MK2. But one thing really is often not understood: yes many people modded their Ender 3, yes many people had problem with calibration and stuff .... but there are also a ton of people printing with their stock Ender 3 (or Ender 2 Pro) machines for years now! Fixing minor problem by themself and just using that slow but cheap 3D printer ever since.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 I had my OG Ender 3 up and running at MK3S quality up till this December before I finally decided to put it into permanent storage, making my what used to be a voron an exclusive experimental platform and a K2 Plus my now primary work horse.
I have been looking for these questions in the last 2 days as I consider to cooperate with bamboo lab for social media, thanks for this video has helped me a lot.😁👍
"Clone" gets thrown around loosely. When you buy a full size split door fridge from LG it isn't a Frigidaire clone. They are just the same style/class. When you buy a Honda Accord, it isn't a Toyota Camry clone. They are simply in the same class/style. Calling something a "Clone" has a negative connotation to it so it would undermine the porpoise of your video.
Nah he's got a point. And if people follow creality they expect this 😊 everyone knows this. Granted you may define clone as 'copying without patenting'? But this industry hates patents anyway
If it's Chinese that doing it well called it clone, if it's Murica we called it inspired.. If it's Chinese machines we called it they release untested machines if it's Murica we called it we need to iron some bug..
Honestly I appreciate your content and I’m patiently waiting for my 3D printer upgrade until some more details come out about this Bambu ordeal. I’m also specifically waiting to hear the opinions of trusted creators in the space like yourself that have relationships with these companies. Thanks for what you do Frank!
Thanks for this. I was about to buy an A1 but stopped when they put in new policy. The Creality printer sounds good, and I'll await your more detailed review.
This ended up in my feed immediately for once. Not 3 days late haha. Interesting news about the creality clone. Cheers frank. Look forward to it hitting the Australian market
I bought the K1 Max in March '24 and it works great. The main reason I bought it was from watching a lot of Frank's videos. It's made pretty much everything I've thrown at it. At the time the best deal I could find was at a MicroCenter that was about an hour away.
I've really enjoyed mine. I pre ordered. Creality has been on top of warranty issues. They have expedited the parts i needed; which is paramount when a customer is waiting on a print, and I'm waiting on a part. Also, many forget that klipper is still the best firmware to handle VFAs. No other firmware is a good for that.
Absolutely LOVING my K2 Plus...using with Orca but Creality has really been doing a great job getting their slicer on par and it's been working pretty great for me.
@@SooksVI I've had to send back 4 Creality printers due to defects from manufacturing. 4 printers and not a single print between them. So for me, all of it is trash.
That Fusion3 F200 is definitely on my radar now. We do mostly military and aerospace contracts at work so this would be an awesome printer for us. As it is now, I have to slice my files on a machine with zero internet access, and then transfer the files to a micro sd card and walk it over to my P1S that is also isolated from the internet.
@@Potatojoebiden this machine is really underrated. Easy to change the, expensive nozzles, prints like a charm, always. You can connect it with orcaslicer and send the files via wifi. And it automatically levels the bed before each printer. It's a must have.
Agreed, I got mine on Amazon for $217 price can't be beat for prints it produces, I'd love to see flashforge or the modding community make a mmu unit for it so I can use pteg supports for my pla prints like I do with my A1 and A1 mini
What great timing for this all to come out. I was JUST about to pull the trigger on a Bambu AMS since Elegoo hasn't released anything (AMS) to my knowledge. The Carbon info I missed so it gives me hope. I have had great experiences with Elegoo thus far and would like to keep the machines in the same family.
Prusa also "pulled an FLSun" with the XL. They made us the beta testers and for those they had to suffer through, it ruined the "it just works" reputation that they had earned.
@anubizz3 What are you talking about? I said nothing about company location, open source, or data collection. I even refer people to the XL for multicolor machines if they have the budget because it's fine now. I just stated a fact in saying that us XL beta testers no longer refer to Prusa as the "it just works" company.
Like my k2 plus. Printed awesome for 3 weeks and now is one extruder clog after another. Just been using cfs the whole time. But overall so far it has been awesome. 👍 Good video 👍
I've been eying off the Creality Hi Combo for basic multicolor bedslinger since the Bambu fiasco. I hope you'll give us a more in-depth review as soon as you are able. Cheers!
Great video and props mentioning an ITAR-friendly option! I have a Kobra S1 and 3 Max ordered and I’ve been playing with a K2 Plus. I was a little surprised by your lack of interest in the S1 and the ACE. :/
Thank you so much for this! I was about to buy Bambu A1 to start my 3D print journey and on the same day, so many folks started posting "Don't Buy Bambu Labs!" stuff and I've been waiting for video like to this.
I'm glad you plan on doing research before commenting on Bambu's ToS. I read contracts regularly as part of my job and I would rather be bound to Bambu's ToS than some of the others.
If you don’t know much about 3d printing and are not really into tinkering and problem shooting. Bambu is still the Apple when it comes to 3d printing. The leaning curve is just minimal and stream-lined. I literally treat my Bambu printers as “home appliances” No headaches. I said this because I have tried Creality and Anycubic and you kinda have to become technical savvy to service these machines.
@ Well said, lol. I guess that’s why Bambu is being selective to choose their Apple-like users. Other 3d printer brands are more like Android - more open sourced and less standardized. It can be good and bad, of course. I honestly don’t think Bambu wants to keep their focus on those Android-like users anymore - just high maintenance and hard to please, lol.
That’s why I consider Qidi more like a Google Pixel running GrapheneOS. Apple/Bambu can keep their closed source ecosystems and centralization… Klipper, GrapheneOS, Bitcoin and Nostr are better suited for those wanting freedom and willing to learn/be responsible. ;-)
Crealities ender 3 v3 se (mouthful lol) is my first printer I've had for over a year now and absolutely love. I've been looking for a mulitcolor printer and was sold on waiting to get the K2 later this year on sale. But I'm so happy they're coming out with the smaller and cheaper printer that will work with their multicolor system!
My Ender 5 Pro has been a bit of a mess through the years. I got an X1C after trying to make a few upgrades on the E5P and got frustrated. The X1C has been amazing. Instead of printing for 3D printing, I’ve been able to print useful or fun things and even design things that solve problems outside of printing. I’m concerned by Bambulab’s new policy, but if they come up with a 350x350x350 printer, it’d be hard to resist - although I really want a laser cutter too.
Funny, I never 3d print unless there’s an actual purpose for the print. 99% related to my business, some stuff for favors for people. I’m still running the original Ender 3 I bought in 2018. No problems, very few truly motivating reason to replace it. Just upgrades over the years.
I started printing with an off brand delta printer. It lasted a few months. Then I got an anycubic vyper, and that has literally lasted years. I was going to get a bambu Labs printer, but they did something stupid with the software, so this video helped me narrow down my next printer.
I think one of the alternatives would be also Flashforge Adventurer 5M Pro. It's like a cheaper and smaller version of Bambu Lab P1S in my opinion ;) It has a very good print quality, easy and fast hotend swap, internal air circulation, which helps heating the chamber and keeping unwanted particles inside (actually filters them also). The only downside is software department, hardware is great.
I was gonna buy a p1s combo, but changed my mind after these updates. I looked at Prusa core one, but the print size is kinda small for the price. I also looked at anycubic kobra s1 but it’s also kinda closed source. I finally decided to buy a Qidi plus 4, it will be here later this week, I’m pretty excited!
@@monstahguy bruh they legit are backpedaling because everyone called them out, and they literally changed their website and then claimed everyone was lying about what they said, but people have screenshots of their website before they changed it. Now orcaslicer has decided not to even work with Bambu because their policies are so anti consumer. Even if they completely go back to how it was before this firmware update, they have destroyed their reputation and I don’t trust them to not lock me out of my printer in the future if I don’t use their filament or pay a subscription for their software. I’m sure they’re great printers and it probably won’t come to those things, but I don’t want to do business with a company who has showed they will change and limit the products abilities AFTER the sell. They want to control everything I do with a product I bought, no thanks.
@ I have, it cements my decision. Bambu is lying, publishing one thing and then saying another, then going back and changing their website and denying that they ever said certain things even though there are archives of their website showing it. They showed who they are, no amount of backpedaling will change my view of them now, trust is gone. It sucks, they make good printers, but I don’t want them telling me how I can use my own printer
I was thinking about getting a core one to replace my bambu when it dies, but they’re still kind of stuck in the past with that 220 on the one axis. Just make it 250 that would make it the perfect printer, making a bed square instead of rectangle is so much better because you can fit much bigger pieces by rotating them 45°. I need that extra space for my machines.
It is awesome, I have a Q1 Pro too might get the Plus4 later, but I already have an X-plus3. Excellent printers and more affordable alternatives, but don't tell anyone they'll all want one.
i canceld my p1s, i dont want to fiddle with the creality k1c and the adaption-kit for the cfs, im not sure about the anycubic..... and now you mention the elegoo.... well looks i have to wait a bit longer.. again ;)
@@Brad25King yeah that’s correct, I don’t really need the multi color, I mostly use 3D printers for prototyping my engineering designs. I’ll probably by the box if/when it comes out, but it wasn’t a deal breaker for me.
I've been waiting for this video, and your opinions of Bambu's recent activities. I have an X1C w/AMS pending shipment around Feb 20th. Really hoping to make a decision before it ships...I am about 2ms away from canceling my order with Bambu. I need to make up my mind soon.
If you're questioning it this hard already, you might as well cancel that order. I feel like at this point that is NOT a confidence purchase, but a sunk-cost fallacy.
@ConsciusVeritasVids Yeah, I know what you're saying. I'm upgrading from a Sidewinder X2 (a big leap, bigger investment) and I just wonder if I can get by in LAN mode or if this will be as draconian as people are saying. It's a Chinese company, and the morality and ability to respect proprietary designs has long been in question... You're probably right, cancel now. Need the next best option, I've delayed the start of a project now for a couple months due to unavailability of this printer...but might be glad this happen.
This channel is one that really motivated me to get into 3D printing and appreciate all the content... My two cents on what to by is most of these printers are far from unbox and print not even talking about the basic assembly with most the bed slingers ... Now that I have four printers after just a year into this I've had problems with all of them both my Elegoo Neptune 3 Plus and Creality 3 v3 SE have need a new system board due to failure with SD card readers and I should point out that Elegoo has much better customer service but each company did send a replacement board free under warranty and can't emphasize enough about correctly setting z-offset per instructions but take it a step further and print just one layer square about the size of your bed and fine-tune z up or down to get a solid layer that can pull off cold or even hot without pulling apart this applies to my two printers listed above along with an Elegoo Giga...I could go on and on but I must finish by saying that I have not had to level my Bambu A1 or due z offset at all but there are plenty of other issues you can run into that cause failed prints.... Believe it or not I'm still enjoying them all.
@@FranklyBuilt I just wanna say that you were the one that got me hooked into 3D printing. I bought my first Ender 3 when after I saw one of your vids 2 or 3 years ago and it’s been nonstop ever since.
I have done SO MUCH research. Over the last few months an landed here. I am geting into printing an so far i have gotting down to the Ender 5 as my choice. thak you for getting people like me this far. Simply Awwesome breakdowns
After owning an Ender 5 Pro and a Bambu X1C, I’d implore you to avoid the Ender 5. After loads of struggles with the Ender 5 Pro, I pretty much lost interest with 3D printing. The X1C needed no modification. I’d suggest the Creality K1 if you must avoid Bambu. But if you’re in NYC, you can have my Ender 5 Pro for nothing.
@steev182 i appreciate the feed back. I haven't yet went an gotten then ender 5. I've been doing research over the last say two months an at least 3 hours a night. An after learning of the BL new with what I can understand I don't feel I could imagine continuing my research with BL
Thanks for your contents that make me now 100% confident to buy K2 Plus. I Am so tired of people who criticize a lot by just using a product. And u are very helpful in guiding people who just want to immerse themselves in the world of 3d....keep it up Frankly....cheersss from Malaysia
tried the basic ender 3 like 5 years ago and gave up fdm for resin (mars, mars 2 pro, saturn 2 8k) , then an eryone er20 a year later which worked good and thank god for auto lvling even got a second one. Then went for a k1max for the speed and was impressed enough to go for the k2 plus pre sale and it has been running great since
7:10 "The Prusa groups are no better sometimes" I'm just GLAD someone acknowledged it! every brand has fanboys and they all do this argh! That thumbnail is a bit cheeky, but I guess there's an algorithm to chase! Also are we allowed to talk about ITAR? >.>
Agree - I mean, their arguments have been so desperate lately , things like "At least with Prusa you are employing Europeans and not Chinese Slave Labor" Whut? But my rub with Prusa has always been the print volume is too small for my uses and very expensive. If you do have a Prusa and want to upgrade it someday, it seems like it costs a lot. Like - spend $200 more and get a whole new machine. Plus, that long promised XL - is that thing even working reliably now after how many years??
Thanks for the great video! I bought my first Bambu (P1S) a month ago to sit alongside my Sovol SV08. I love the print quality and ease of use, so I was waiting patiently for the larger Bambu to come out. After all of this drama, I pondered for a while this week and actually ordered a K2 Plus last night. Glad to hear it made your list, and hope it runs as well as my Bambu.
I respect people's concerns with Bambu Labs latest moves and I am certainly keeping my eyes open. For now, however, I will keep using my A1. 1) it is paid for 2) it works great , and 3) things are still good for me at this time. Should Bambu Labs make changes that changes this situation, I will change out.
Same situation here, I bought an A1 combo this summer and it’s great as is. I have blocked its connection to the internet and will continue to use it with orca slicer. I was looking forward to Bambu’s new larger printer but now I’m almost entirely disinterested. I will no longer be recommending their printers.
Absolutely agree. Don't buy anything new as long as it works. I was looking to upgrade from my CR10 v2 and was interested in Bambu, but now I will be sticking with Creality.
I got the ender 5 plus that you recommended, then the k1 max when you first got yours and honestly lissoning to your recommendations helped me alot, both printers still going strong and never realy let me down, going for a k2 soon and getting rid of the ender 5, you know good printers and trust your advice
I feel really bad for people who buy another brand just out of spite. When this blows over and they realize the internet and mostly Reddit is just dramatic, theyre ganna be mad they didnt buy Bambu when what they actually wanted was a Bambu lol
Loved the info here! I recently joined the Bambu FB page, hoping to learn more about the P1S, with the intention to buy one soon. That was the day before their big announcement hit. I think I lasted three days on the page before I quit it due to the toxicity; heck, the guys who were unhappy about the announcement is totally understandable, and most just wanted some clarity; but JEEBUZZ were the fanboyz batshit crazy in defending Bambu! Anyhow, I still love the look of the P1S, but don't want any extra steps in printing from whatever slicer I choose (currently using Cura and would prefer to stick with it), and I really don't like having to set up any online accounts in order to use the printer. I'm not in a hurry, so definitely waiting on Elegoo's announcement.
Good luck. I have 2 Xmax3's collecting dust in the warehouse for months because Qidi won't cover it under warranty and they also won't sell me the parts. I'm not the only one either, I think another RUclipsr had the same thing happen.
Been watchin you vids for years recently went from the bambu labs ams to the k2 plus, now im gonna get a the cfs combo, ppreciate all the info and recommendations definitely goated, keep up the good work.
This is great timing. I've been printing off of a ender 3 for the past 3 years and desperately need something more efficient with better quality and bigger volume
So glad to see you talking about this! You got me into 3D printing so I was excited to hear your take. Unfortunately bought a P1S during black friday. Great machine, but now I can never support Bambu after this. I didn't know that tidbit about Prusa offeeing upgrade paths all the time. Looks like I found my new brand!
Amen, concerning your assessment of FLSun! I have two original S1s and am absolutely furious at how they have treated those of us who trusted them and "funded" them with pre-orders only to get completely shafted and left stranded on the curb in terms of both hardware and software update support while they move on touting their S1 Pro, completely ghosting their loyal customer base. There is entirely too much to list but suffice it to say they have completely lost my trust. Thanks for including this in this video, Frank! 👍🏼
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1 minute before this video was posted, I searched "bambu alternative" and then 1 minute later this appeared in my feed. Perfect timing!
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@@FranklyBuilt Looking forward to your in depth thoughts on the Bambu situation. As a "set it and forget it" type of printer, it's getting really hard to separate the justifiable concerns vs conspiracy
4 years ago the X1Cs were the best by magnitudes of order. Like comparing the bronze age to the industeial age. But now? Not a single thing special about them. Except maybe their obsession with apple-izing their company, making everything proprietary, subscription based, locked down, spied on and highly regulated. I mean, what could possibly be more secure than a chinese communist party cloud server? Your personal home network? Psshhh you crazy misinformation spreaders. Shut up, consume product, and get excited for next product we totally wont strip features from. Because we super CCP pinky promise.
Looking at prusas, but theyre so much more 😢
I think that anything relating to a subscription or locking you to their filament is conspiracy. If they ever did do either of those, Im fairly certain they would only do it for printers that came out after a change would announced, but I don't think they would even do that. @@dillonbuescher
This is so sad because I was looking to get a Bambu at some point. But I’m glad there are good alternatives. So thankyou for your suggestions.
There really isnt. Everyone is just crying about the update. There really isnt another printer on the market right now that competes with Bambu lab printers at the price point. You can get something close but its going to be insanely frustrating and just be a pain to use / have quality issues. e.g creality. Stop by and read anything about creality. lol
Cross Knife mic 4 the win 😂😅
I just want to be you.
@@FranklyBuilt What is the make/model of the mic you're using?
DJI mic
Also Jill Bearup. Though she has been using an actual dagger which fits her content better than a 3D printed dagger (which fits your content better).
Bambu went from the most recommended to the most despised over night. I hope they change their path and can recover from this.
ya it's sad
read their blog
@@monstahguy These morons don't want to read it. They want to stay mad... it's all they have.
Would it matter? They’ve proven that they can’t be trusted.
At this point the damage is already kinda set in stone. If they had immediately back tracked 100% the damage would have been minimal but that’s not what they did.
One thing I would tell any new would be buyers is never buy a new model, unless you don't mind being a little hands on with the hardware. Every printer has a maiden run where they work out the kinks and minor issues (even the X1C did). Waiting on a totally new printer is like rolling the dice you may roll 6's or snake eyes.
So true 😁
100% True!!😅
That's why Prusa is such a good option. they print hours of their products in their print farm first... for me, no doubts.
That's why upgraded versions like the K1c, Sovol SV06 ACE, Prusa MK4S should be concidered.
@@iopfarmer but their closest alternative to the A1 is the Prusa Mini, but it is more comparable to the A1 Mini because it is smaller, yet it costs 90-120 dollars more than the full sized A1.
Dang, excellent feedback, what a helpful video. We were literally JUST about to buy the A1 Combo, our first venture, when all this hit the fan. So this info is hugely appreciated. And reading the comments, it seems everyone is supporting your stance. We'll be getting a Creality. Huge thanks!!
To EVERYONE ELSE watching this video... I can't thank Frank enough for this video. The timing was perfect even though I have no personal intentions of jumping ship from Bambu at present. As always though, just a perfect video of nothing but the info that a targeted question is about with a lot of answers for free...
Personally glad to see the Creality K1 Max show up in this video, as it's the only one from this video that I have personally seen run. I DEFINITELY think that one is a perfect starting place for anyone that hasn't used anything but Bambu. They are all I have personally used so far, but I've been looking at the K1 Max because of what I know it can do and all the similarities to Bambu and all of that.
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My biggest complaint with K1 Max is it won't detect filament jams. Also I've already had to replace the feed tube going into the extruder on two of them within a month of using them. Even unfilled filament eventually cuts the very tight bend in the tube. I've replaced them with reputable sources of PTFE tubing and we'll see if they hold up better.
Thanks for staying impartial and showing us what other options there are! You are my trusted source for HONEST reviews.
I respect and appreciate this approach you made. The core to this hobby and why I love 3D printing is problem solving. And coming out with a video that gives reasonable alternatives that’s well worded is bringing solutions rather than just pointing out issues. I’m looking forward to the video you make if you decide to make a video.
I plan to get back to RUclips videos that cover self care/home care videos that focus on staying productive and have been picking up on how I’ll approach that topic.
Overall, these are great tools and making sure we keep in mind these are tools, helps us stay productive and creative. Regardless of brand and style, staying informed on your tools and other options available only allows you to be more efficient with projects.
Ever since I got my Prusa XL, I’ve been open to checking options (started with bambu). Thinking about getting the core one but also want to try out other brands and their software.
Keep up the great work!💪🏼👍🏼
7:50 this is aimply genuis. I think this is 100% the way to go. Having an upgrade system for existing printers makes the company even more money, AND avoids existing printers going obselete. This is a step I really like.
That was a great bit of info. I had decided to jump from Anycubic printers to Bambu pretty much the day before all this came out. So insane that with so much competition they would try to go the anti-consumer route.
Thx for this video! As someone who bought an X1C last black friday, I hope bambu turns around and stops angering the community.
As someone with a p series I agree. I thought they had a perfect niche in the market, with a beginner friendly and expert friendly. It's a shame to see them shutout the more advanced users from using their printers
I'm so glad I returned the one I purchased, even though I had to pay $135 to ship it back! Looking to possibly purchase the Creality K2 Plus.
I've learned that most of the people angry right now are just parroting what someone else said and hasn't even tried to research for themselves. 😂
My X1C is still hands down the best printer I've owned. Might try a Prusa in the future, but no amount of screw ups would ever make me even consider going back to Creality.
@@Thedudeman8282 but they've taken away features on their latest firmware update, they havent resolved their attempted gaslighting, and their security got hack right after. Theyve aren't backing down to locking down their machines. Which isn't what the 3d printing community's want. 3d printing is a hobby for makers, which means it include those having skills to tinker and mod, and want freedom with their machine.
@@oneanother1 tinkering is fine, but this was not the machine for that to begin with.
As for the security features, that's a whole different issue entirely, it doesn't really affect me in the slightest so I can't be angry about it.
The only dog I have in this fight right now is to keep people away from Creality. They build bad printers and I don't want any beginners to get caught in that trap.
K1 Max is Definately the Beat Option vs a Bambu as far as a replacement option. Bigger build size, Lidar, decent camera and time lapse. Plus Creality is offering upgrade option for the hotend and with the CFS Retro Fitting of the K1 series of Printers in February. You not losing anything. Your actually gaining if you like open source and root access for the hard-core users/modders.
Qidi ones have better offering than the K1, K2 level, no multi filament option yet though. "lidars" dont really do much for 3d printing
K2, closed loop Steppers etc. no lidar on K2 as it has a nozzle cam for analysis only, been great for me.
@xRaptorScreamx I agree the lidar is there so someone's peace of mind. Whether it works or not I couldn't tell you. I have never uses the one on ours. Q1 Pro is great too but the build size in comparison 245x245x240 To 300x300x300 is the winning factor. It's nice having a heated Chamber but the Creality K1 Max has more upgrades available to add a heated options.
Great info! My sons really want to get into 3D printing but it is pretty overwhelming with all of the printers on the market. We were looking at getting the Bambu Carbon X1C but backed off because of the current issues they are having. You gave us some good alternatives to look at,thanks man! I subscribed to your channel about a week ago because I can tell you give your honest opinion and don't sugar coat it,keep up the good work!
Thank you for doing this video. It is not just helpfull in of itself regardless of the situation, but it is also good because it helps the community and the industry as a whole. It gives moving us forward. It's not "bambu bad because"(which at this point everybody that can understand, does understand) but is also a solution. Thumbs up my man. much love
what about the Qidi plus 4? Also, the Elegoo will NOT have a heated chamber. The heat will be passive from the build plate.
Qidi works great for me!
CHeck out anycubic, i think they have the best Bambu clone actually, but im biased my first printer was a Vyper. Theyre just not aggressive like elegoo and creality with marketing, so they rely on word of mouth like me... (im still waiting for my free printer anycubic, jk youre not perfect either, but the few people that i seen review your bambu clone it looked good) *wink*wink*
I agree, I love my Q1-Pro, he should have mentioned the Qidi.
I have the X Max 3, great machine. Looking to move to the Plus 4 one of these days. He doesn't like Qidi for some reason.
I just returned my plus 4 on Amazon. Wouldn't ever level properly after hours of trying to get it to work. Maybe mine was a fluke 🤷.
Thank you frank as always for the information and the Fantastic video I have a k1 max from you recommendation and I love it And my prints are beautiful
That’s interesting bc it seems like I’ve heard almost nothing but negatives about the K1 or K2
That prusa core one REALLY has my attention. The price isnt that bad actually!
Agreeeeed. It’s a nice machine
The bed is too small
@@cylonmode I suppose the bed size was chosen to provide an upgrade path for Mk4 owners. I hope they'll offer an upscaled version at some point, but for me the size of the Core One is sufficient for most jobs, and I appreciate the small footprint with my limited shop space.
@@kaasmeester5903 Sure if it was $100 cheaper.
the price is ridiculous, the bed size is funny, the upgrade path makes no sense, seems to be non competetive in speed, multimaterial, quality and price, Prusa didnt come up with anything on his own for like a decade and just continues to capitalize on unpatented open source projects and hes an egocentric narcissist who lacks a responsibility brain circuit.
Just buy a voron kit because everyone thinks that bambu is bad but hey lets jump to these other chinese companies that are definitely much better morally and wont pull some shenanigans later that seems like a great idea
Without bambu the alternatives to bambu wouldnt exist probably by now and prusa would be making an unclosed MK5 bedslinger and elegoo would continue cloning the CR10 or smth
As always perfect timing. Watching this now. You are the man!
One printer I often recommend is the Infimech TX. Core XY, similar size to K1, but it's built like a brick! Around 300 USD, and I've had great results with them (I have 3). Something I also really really like about them is that they are built with open source parts, they still use V6 style (volcano) nozzles, and it feels easy to service.
I first found out about Infimech when Aurora Tech reviewed the TX and it has been a very solid machine for the price point! Weirdly underdiscussed given the value. The serviceability is great as it's important to me since most of my other printers are Creality K1s and they are kind of a pain with how the extruder and carriage are set up.
Hey Frank! Your videos have been super helpful for me, I’m printing a full clone trooper cosplay! Thanks a ton! 😊
So glad I ran across this video. I was primed to buy a Bambu A1 Combo when I heard about this total crap garbage they were trying to pull. They can backpedal all they want to as far as I'm concerned. The thought that they would stoop so low in the first place is all the reason I need to look elsewhere. The Creality Hi Combo it will be then!
Really useful. Was about to buy my first printer a Bambu but am now put off the whole idea.
I love the kobra3 combo. i have two now and they have been flawless for me!
The irony, even with prusa being the gold standard for the longest, bed slingers have always been classified as Ender 3 Clones! XD
Yes, because they're typically so poorly built that to call them Prusa clones is an insult to Prusa
@@johntetreaultBut you build a ender3 yourself, so if it's poorly built it's on you 😆
@@Akira.Nibbai no, because they're basically garbage machines... You don't build their badly warped print beds yourself, do you? But they are notorious for shipping badly warped print beds right out of the box.
This really is irony with Ender 3 being the OG clone of Prusa MK2.
But one thing really is often not understood: yes many people modded their Ender 3, yes many people had problem with calibration and stuff .... but there are also a ton of people printing with their stock Ender 3 (or Ender 2 Pro) machines for years now! Fixing minor problem by themself and just using that slow but cheap 3D printer ever since.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 I had my OG Ender 3 up and running at MK3S quality up till this December before I finally decided to put it into permanent storage, making my what used to be a voron an exclusive experimental platform and a K2 Plus my now primary work horse.
Always enjoy the videos you’re the reason I got into 3-D printing a couple of years ago got me a fresh bamboo A1 and a Creality printer
I have been looking for these questions in the last 2 days as I consider to cooperate with bamboo lab for social media, thanks for this video has helped me a lot.😁👍
its scary how fast the 3dprinting scene has evolved in just a few years.
"Clone" gets thrown around loosely. When you buy a full size split door fridge from LG it isn't a Frigidaire clone. They are just the same style/class. When you buy a Honda Accord, it isn't a Toyota Camry clone. They are simply in the same class/style. Calling something a "Clone" has a negative connotation to it so it would undermine the porpoise of your video.
Nah he's got a point. And if people follow creality they expect this 😊 everyone knows this. Granted you may define clone as 'copying without patenting'? But this industry hates patents anyway
If it's Chinese that doing it well called it clone, if it's Murica we called it inspired.. If it's Chinese machines we called it they release untested machines if it's Murica we called it we need to iron some bug..
Yeah, for some things clone isnt the best term, but have you seen the creality Hi next to an A1? Its hard to not call it a clone
Its more to do with buying parts off the assembly line of the best selling printers and putting a new shell on it or even just removing the branding.
I mena considering how there's like 20 or so Ender 3 clones, a Bambu clone that isn't Bambu seems like pretty good marketing these days 🤣
Honestly I appreciate your content and I’m patiently waiting for my 3D printer upgrade until some more details come out about this Bambu ordeal. I’m also specifically waiting to hear the opinions of trusted creators in the space like yourself that have relationships with these companies. Thanks for what you do Frank!
So many videos are going to be BAMBU ALTERNATIVES and I love that! Been loving my K1SE!
Thanks for this. I was about to buy an A1 but stopped when they put in new policy. The Creality printer sounds good, and I'll await your more detailed review.
So happy to hear something on the Elegoo Centauri Carbon and even more excited to hear that you are excited about it!
This ended up in my feed immediately for once. Not 3 days late haha. Interesting news about the creality clone. Cheers frank. Look forward to it hitting the Australian market
I bought the K1 Max in March '24 and it works great. The main reason I bought it was from watching a lot of Frank's videos. It's made pretty much everything I've thrown at it. At the time the best deal I could find was at a MicroCenter that was about an hour away.
I’d say the Creality K2 plus is going to get a lot of business because of Bambi’s very bad decision. That’s the direction I’d head.
I pray for anyone who gets stuck with Creality printers. They're absolute trash.
I've really enjoyed mine. I pre ordered. Creality has been on top of warranty issues. They have expedited the parts i needed; which is paramount when a customer is waiting on a print, and I'm waiting on a part.
Also, many forget that klipper is still the best firmware to handle VFAs. No other firmware is a good for that.
Interesting to see why you think Creality is trash. I've got their K2 Plus and it feels so professional.
@@hw5533 I had nothing but issue with the 4 printer I had from Creality. It left a terrible taste for them as a company.
been looking for my friend in china for an banbu alternative and then i saw this thanks!
THATS ME!!!! I was gonna order an X1C next month but i think ill get the K2. ive always had Creality, i almost switched to Bambu but NOPE
I was waiting for a bigger Bambu Lab printer, but I am not going to spend anymore money with this brand. Creality K2 looks like a go alternative!
Absolutely LOVING my K2 Plus...using with Orca but Creality has really been doing a great job getting their slicer on par and it's been working pretty great for me.
Creality makes trash. Literally anything else would be better for you.
@@Thedudeman8282 what's trash about it?
@@SooksVI I've had to send back 4 Creality printers due to defects from manufacturing. 4 printers and not a single print between them. So for me, all of it is trash.
This was very informative!! Thank you. I was getting bambu this month and then the news popped up !
Qidi plus 4 is our pick for best printer of 2024 I feel like its at least a match for our bambu and frankly is better in quite a few areas i love it
That Fusion3 F200 is definitely on my radar now. We do mostly military and aerospace contracts at work so this would be an awesome printer for us. As it is now, I have to slice my files on a machine with zero internet access, and then transfer the files to a micro sd card and walk it over to my P1S that is also isolated from the internet.
I really like my Flashforge Adventurer 5M, it prints great for less money than a BambuLab x or p series...I'm glad that I didn't buy a P1P. 😁
Me too. Great printer and very reliable.
i just tried the .25 nozzle at the default 0.6 layer height... i gotta say im very very impressed with the quality for the price
@@Potatojoebiden this machine is really underrated. Easy to change the, expensive nozzles, prints like a charm, always. You can connect it with orcaslicer and send the files via wifi. And it automatically levels the bed before each printer. It's a must have.
Agreed, I got mine on Amazon for $217 price can't be beat for prints it produces, I'd love to see flashforge or the modding community make a mmu unit for it so I can use pteg supports for my pla prints like I do with my A1 and A1 mini
@@Lukesmassiveyulelog Waiting for their AD5X to be in stock.
What great timing for this all to come out. I was JUST about to pull the trigger on a Bambu AMS since Elegoo hasn't released anything (AMS) to my knowledge. The Carbon info I missed so it gives me hope. I have had great experiences with Elegoo thus far and would like to keep the machines in the same family.
Prusa also "pulled an FLSun" with the XL. They made us the beta testers and for those they had to suffer through, it ruined the "it just works" reputation that they had earned.
Nah impossible US company will never do this.. We love open source and never collect data..
@anubizz3 What are you talking about? I said nothing about company location, open source, or data collection. I even refer people to the XL for multicolor machines if they have the budget because it's fine now. I just stated a fact in saying that us XL beta testers no longer refer to Prusa as the "it just works" company.
💯👍🏼...casualty here, as well...
@@anubizz3Prussa is not even from the US
Yep I have a V400 and SR and both of those are useless now, they break every Single Time i try to print something :c
Like my k2 plus. Printed awesome for 3 weeks and now is one extruder clog after another. Just been using cfs the whole time.
But overall so far it has been awesome. 👍
Good video 👍
I've been eying off the Creality Hi Combo for basic multicolor bedslinger since the Bambu fiasco.
I hope you'll give us a more in-depth review as soon as you are able.
Cheers!
I've got an Anycubic Kobra S3 and to be fair it's been faultless, it's surprising to see stories of so many people having issues with these printers.
Great video and props mentioning an ITAR-friendly option!
I have a Kobra S1 and 3 Max ordered and I’ve been playing with a K2 Plus. I was a little surprised by your lack of interest in the S1 and the ACE. :/
Thanks for the info, since I heard about bamboo’s issue been curious about a alternative 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you so much for this! I was about to buy Bambu A1 to start my 3D print journey and on the same day, so many folks started posting "Don't Buy Bambu Labs!" stuff and I've been waiting for video like to this.
I'm glad you plan on doing research before commenting on Bambu's ToS. I read contracts regularly as part of my job and I would rather be bound to Bambu's ToS than some of the others.
If you don’t know much about 3d printing and are not really into tinkering and problem shooting. Bambu is still the Apple when it comes to 3d printing. The leaning curve is just minimal and stream-lined. I literally treat my Bambu printers as “home appliances” No headaches. I said this because I have tried Creality and Anycubic and you kinda have to become technical savvy to service these machines.
The great thing about Bambu is yes, they're the Apple of 3d printing.
The bad thing about Bambu is yes, they're the Apple of 3d printing.
@ Well said, lol. I guess that’s why Bambu is being selective to choose their Apple-like users. Other 3d printer brands are more like Android - more open sourced and less standardized. It can be good and bad, of course. I honestly don’t think Bambu wants to keep their focus on those Android-like users anymore - just high maintenance and hard to please, lol.
That’s why I consider Qidi more like a Google Pixel running GrapheneOS. Apple/Bambu can keep their closed source ecosystems and centralization… Klipper, GrapheneOS, Bitcoin and Nostr are better suited for those wanting freedom and willing to learn/be responsible. ;-)
@@JimRod-m8m But why not Prusa? I thought it would be the go-to brand for much more open sourced, socially responsible clientele?
Crealities ender 3 v3 se (mouthful lol) is my first printer I've had for over a year now and absolutely love. I've been looking for a mulitcolor printer and was sold on waiting to get the K2 later this year on sale. But I'm so happy they're coming out with the smaller and cheaper printer that will work with their multicolor system!
My Ender 5 Pro has been a bit of a mess through the years. I got an X1C after trying to make a few upgrades on the E5P and got frustrated.
The X1C has been amazing. Instead of printing for 3D printing, I’ve been able to print useful or fun things and even design things that solve problems outside of printing.
I’m concerned by Bambulab’s new policy, but if they come up with a 350x350x350 printer, it’d be hard to resist - although I really want a laser cutter too.
Funny, I never 3d print unless there’s an actual purpose for the print. 99% related to my business, some stuff for favors for people. I’m still running the original Ender 3 I bought in 2018. No problems, very few truly motivating reason to replace it. Just upgrades over the years.
I started printing with an off brand delta printer. It lasted a few months. Then I got an anycubic vyper, and that has literally lasted years. I was going to get a bambu Labs printer, but they did something stupid with the software, so this video helped me narrow down my next printer.
I think one of the alternatives would be also Flashforge Adventurer 5M Pro. It's like a cheaper and smaller version of Bambu Lab P1S in my opinion ;) It has a very good print quality, easy and fast hotend swap, internal air circulation, which helps heating the chamber and keeping unwanted particles inside (actually filters them also). The only downside is software department, hardware is great.
Finally on time to watch one of your videos!
I was gonna buy a p1s combo, but changed my mind after these updates. I looked at Prusa core one, but the print size is kinda small for the price. I also looked at anycubic kobra s1 but it’s also kinda closed source. I finally decided to buy a Qidi plus 4, it will be here later this week, I’m pretty excited!
bruh read bambu's blog
@@monstahguy bruh they legit are backpedaling because everyone called them out, and they literally changed their website and then claimed everyone was lying about what they said, but people have screenshots of their website before they changed it. Now orcaslicer has decided not to even work with Bambu because their policies are so anti consumer. Even if they completely go back to how it was before this firmware update, they have destroyed their reputation and I don’t trust them to not lock me out of my printer in the future if I don’t use their filament or pay a subscription for their software. I’m sure they’re great printers and it probably won’t come to those things, but I don’t want to do business with a company who has showed they will change and limit the products abilities AFTER the sell. They want to control everything I do with a product I bought, no thanks.
@ I have, it cements my decision. Bambu is lying, publishing one thing and then saying another, then going back and changing their website and denying that they ever said certain things even though there are archives of their website showing it. They showed who they are, no amount of backpedaling will change my view of them now, trust is gone. It sucks, they make good printers, but I don’t want them telling me how I can use my own printer
@@jeremyncrm2012 ok
@@jeremyncrm2012 valid arguement
Thanks for posting a video getting to the meat of alternative printer options!
I was thinking about getting a core one to replace my bambu when it dies, but they’re still kind of stuck in the past with that 220 on the one axis. Just make it 250 that would make it the perfect printer, making a bed square instead of rectangle is so much better because you can fit much bigger pieces by rotating them 45°. I need that extra space for my machines.
I got a K1 SE and its been working great 👍
Dude you said, "let me research more." Your opinion is now the only valid one in regards to Bambu Labs.
I might do a live stream talking about it all
not sure it was intentional but i appreciate you briefly showing Australian prices for Creality at 8:43
What about Qidi? I'm looking at the q1pro and I feel like it's gonna be awesome.
It is awesome, I have a Q1 Pro too might get the Plus4 later, but I already have an X-plus3. Excellent printers and more affordable alternatives, but don't tell anyone they'll all want one.
the timing on this video is great. I am looking to upgrade and am starting to look at options.
i canceld my p1s, i dont want to fiddle with the creality k1c and the adaption-kit for the cfs, im not sure about the anycubic..... and now you mention the elegoo.... well looks i have to wait a bit longer.. again ;)
I just ordered a qidi plus 4, they fixed the heating issues they had at launch, and it seems really solid. I hope it works good
@@jeremyncrm2012 but no qidi box / mfs out yet right? I hope it comes and gets proper reviewed soon™
@@Brad25King yeah that’s correct, I don’t really need the multi color, I mostly use 3D printers for prototyping my engineering designs. I’ll probably by the box if/when it comes out, but it wasn’t a deal breaker for me.
I would look at the qidi machines. I own 2 of them and love them very much
My first printer around 8 years ago was an Anycubic and it worked fine, nice print quality and 0 issues printing PLA. It was one of the first Mega
I've been waiting for this video, and your opinions of Bambu's recent activities. I have an X1C w/AMS pending shipment around Feb 20th. Really hoping to make a decision before it ships...I am about 2ms away from canceling my order with Bambu. I need to make up my mind soon.
If you're questioning it this hard already, you might as well cancel that order.
I feel like at this point that is NOT a confidence purchase, but a sunk-cost fallacy.
@ConsciusVeritasVids Yeah, I know what you're saying. I'm upgrading from a Sidewinder X2 (a big leap, bigger investment) and I just wonder if I can get by in LAN mode or if this will be as draconian as people are saying. It's a Chinese company, and the morality and ability to respect proprietary designs has long been in question...
You're probably right, cancel now. Need the next best option, I've delayed the start of a project now for a couple months due to unavailability of this printer...but might be glad this happen.
This channel is one that really motivated me to get into 3D printing and appreciate all the content... My two cents on what to by is most of these printers are far from unbox and print not even talking about the basic assembly with most the bed slingers ... Now that I have four printers after just a year into this I've had problems with all of them both my Elegoo Neptune 3 Plus and Creality 3 v3 SE have need a new system board due to failure with SD card readers and I should point out that Elegoo has much better customer service but each company did send a replacement board free under warranty and can't emphasize enough about correctly setting z-offset per instructions but take it a step further and print just one layer square about the size of your bed and fine-tune z up or down to get a solid layer that can pull off cold or even hot without pulling apart this applies to my two printers listed above along with an Elegoo Giga...I could go on and on but I must finish by saying that I have not had to level my Bambu A1 or due z offset at all but there are plenty of other issues you can run into that cause failed prints.... Believe it or not I'm still enjoying them all.
Forget burning bridges… I think you blew that bridge to pieces 😂😂😂😂
FLSUN? Probably haha assuming they watch my videos
@@FranklyBuilt I just wanna say that you were the one that got me hooked into 3D printing. I bought my first Ender 3 when after I saw one of your vids 2 or 3 years ago and it’s been nonstop ever since.
...not a bridge about which you need be too concerned, IMHO... 😅
I have done SO MUCH research. Over the last few months an landed here. I am geting into printing an so far i have gotting down to the Ender 5 as my choice. thak you for getting people like me this far. Simply Awwesome breakdowns
After owning an Ender 5 Pro and a Bambu X1C, I’d implore you to avoid the Ender 5. After loads of struggles with the Ender 5 Pro, I pretty much lost interest with 3D printing.
The X1C needed no modification.
I’d suggest the Creality K1 if you must avoid Bambu. But if you’re in NYC, you can have my Ender 5 Pro for nothing.
@@steev182 I'll take you up on that offer if he doesn't and I'll fix it up and donate it to my local HS. Although I live in a neighbor state.
@steev182 i appreciate the feed back. I haven't yet went an gotten then ender 5. I've been doing research over the last say two months an at least 3 hours a night. An after learning of the BL new with what I can understand I don't feel I could imagine continuing my research with BL
@@sliceofmymind im in Indiana lol
@ It looks like Tim is too far away! We can organize a place/time to meet as it's also a good cause (and I'm sure a fairly easy fix).
I think maybe for the casual, I don't think it harmed bambu. For those that want to delve into it deeper it might affect those users deeper
Agree
Not yet. But it’s a big step in a bad direction.
Thanks for your contents that make me now 100% confident to buy K2 Plus. I Am so tired of people who criticize a lot by just using a product. And u are very helpful in guiding people who just want to immerse themselves in the world of 3d....keep it up Frankly....cheersss from Malaysia
Does the Centuauri Carbon require network connectivity the way bambu's does, or can it do EVERYTHING offline? (Such as updates, live feed, etc)
tried the basic ender 3 like 5 years ago and gave up fdm for resin (mars, mars 2 pro, saturn 2 8k) , then an eryone er20 a year later which worked good and thank god for auto lvling even got a second one. Then went for a k1max for the speed and was impressed enough to go for the k2 plus pre sale and it has been running great since
Will you be doing a video on the Multi Colour upgrade for the K1 Series when it releases?
Yep!
@FranklyBuilt Nice! I'm really looking forward to it! I don't want my K1 Max to be lagging too far behind my K2 Plus lol
7:10 "The Prusa groups are no better sometimes" I'm just GLAD someone acknowledged it! every brand has fanboys and they all do this argh! That thumbnail is a bit cheeky, but I guess there's an algorithm to chase!
Also are we allowed to talk about ITAR? >.>
ITAR? Never heard of her
Agree - I mean, their arguments have been so desperate lately , things like "At least with Prusa you are employing Europeans and not Chinese Slave Labor" Whut? But my rub with Prusa has always been the print volume is too small for my uses and very expensive. If you do have a Prusa and want to upgrade it someday, it seems like it costs a lot. Like - spend $200 more and get a whole new machine. Plus, that long promised XL - is that thing even working reliably now after how many years??
I'm sorry but Bambu fans are worse, yeah I'm sure Prusa fans can be too but from what I seen it's mostly Bambu fans.
@@krollmond7544nah they’re all the same 😂
Thanks for the great video! I bought my first Bambu (P1S) a month ago to sit alongside my Sovol SV08. I love the print quality and ease of use, so I was waiting patiently for the larger Bambu to come out. After all of this drama, I pondered for a while this week and actually ordered a K2 Plus last night. Glad to hear it made your list, and hope it runs as well as my Bambu.
Any release info on the Elegoo Centauri Carbon? Can't find anything.
Feb-March. Ish
You're the best, man. Ad someone excited for the larger Bambu, I wanted your thoughts on this so bad.
Bambulab Bye Creality Hi
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Another option for coreXY would be the flashforge 5M product line, or even their upcoming AD5X (it does multicolor)
I respect people's concerns with Bambu Labs latest moves and I am certainly keeping my eyes open. For now, however, I will keep using my A1. 1) it is paid for 2) it works great , and 3) things are still good for me at this time. Should Bambu Labs make changes that changes this situation, I will change out.
Same situation here, I bought an A1 combo this summer and it’s great as is. I have blocked its connection to the internet and will continue to use it with orca slicer. I was looking forward to Bambu’s new larger printer but now I’m almost entirely disinterested. I will no longer be recommending their printers.
Absolutely agree. Don't buy anything new as long as it works. I was looking to upgrade from my CR10 v2 and was interested in Bambu, but now I will be sticking with Creality.
I got the ender 5 plus that you recommended, then the k1 max when you first got yours and honestly lissoning to your recommendations helped me alot, both printers still going strong and never realy let me down, going for a k2 soon and getting rid of the ender 5, you know good printers and trust your advice
I feel really bad for people who buy another brand just out of spite. When this blows over and they realize the internet and mostly Reddit is just dramatic, theyre ganna be mad they didnt buy Bambu when what they actually wanted was a Bambu lol
Loved the info here! I recently joined the Bambu FB page, hoping to learn more about the P1S, with the intention to buy one soon. That was the day before their big announcement hit. I think I lasted three days on the page before I quit it due to the toxicity; heck, the guys who were unhappy about the announcement is totally understandable, and most just wanted some clarity; but JEEBUZZ were the fanboyz batshit crazy in defending Bambu! Anyhow, I still love the look of the P1S, but don't want any extra steps in printing from whatever slicer I choose (currently using Cura and would prefer to stick with it), and I really don't like having to set up any online accounts in order to use the printer.
I'm not in a hurry, so definitely waiting on Elegoo's announcement.
I'm keeping my X1C, it's great and not going to give into fear mongering.
Thanks for linking the post, I've been confused why everybody is so mad!
Last week, Bambu Labs sold me a Creality K2 Plus with a CPS. It arrives on Wednesday this week. Very excited.
I got my MK4S during Black Friday, so I got a coupon for the upgrade kit to the CoreOne, I cannot wait! It looks like so much fun!
Have you ever checked a QIDI Printer? Qidi X-Max3 seems a great alternative to K1 Max and the smaller Qidis to the other K1 confectioned sizes.
Good luck. I have 2 Xmax3's collecting dust in the warehouse for months because Qidi won't cover it under warranty and they also won't sell me the parts. I'm not the only one either, I think another RUclipsr had the same thing happen.
Been watchin you vids for years recently went from the bambu labs ams to the k2 plus, now im gonna get a the cfs combo, ppreciate all the info and recommendations definitely goated, keep up the good work.
if anyone is willing to jump ship and selling their printers let me know ill buy them for very cheap.
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Same lol 😆
I'm really interested in the fusion 3d printers I can't wait to see more videos on them
I got a Creality K1 max based you your early reviews. Really happy with it. Still learning but it’s a great first printer.
This is great timing. I've been printing off of a ender 3 for the past 3 years and desperately need something more efficient with better quality and bigger volume
In all truth after than announcement from Bambu I am looking at other options, prusa was my first choice. Thanks for this video, real help
So glad to see you talking about this! You got me into 3D printing so I was excited to hear your take. Unfortunately bought a P1S during black friday. Great machine, but now I can never support Bambu after this. I didn't know that tidbit about Prusa offeeing upgrade paths all the time. Looks like I found my new brand!
Great vid, I usually come for the comments. And the comments have me sold on QIDI Plus 4.
Amen, concerning your assessment of FLSun! I have two original S1s and am absolutely furious at how they have treated those of us who trusted them and "funded" them with pre-orders only to get completely shafted and left stranded on the curb in terms of both hardware and software update support while they move on touting their S1 Pro, completely ghosting their loyal customer base. There is entirely too much to list but suffice it to say they have completely lost my trust. Thanks for including this in this video, Frank! 👍🏼
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