Totemic is WORKING! | New Physical Totem Build??

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  • Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024

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  • @Maldor313
    @Maldor313 2 месяца назад +4

    if you pick the talents that reduce the cd of totems by 6 sec the surging totem should be 24 sec CD, not much better than 30sec CD but its something

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 месяца назад +1

      Actually yes! The totem CDR talents weren't working with Surging Totem before, and now they are! I didn't realize that during filming.
      So yes, if you take the 2 points, Surging Totem becomes a 24 sec cd.

    • @ded1020
      @ded1020 2 месяца назад +2

      @@ZucoWoW so back to 100% uptime?

    • @user-ut9iq4iw9t
      @user-ut9iq4iw9t 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ded1020 But correct me if im wrong please. Do you need to take all of those nodes in the Hero tree or does it give an alternative to surging totem?

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 месяца назад +1

      @@ded1020 Yes the uptime is 100% now. Which is great!

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 месяца назад

      @@user-ut9iq4iw9t I'm not quite sure what you mean... You always get to take all of the talents in the Hero tree. The only choices are the choice nodes themselves.

  • @vitorgrocha
    @vitorgrocha 2 месяца назад +14

    third, fourth maybe fifth rework on warlocks/mages/priests; Blue post for shamans: talents are now working AHHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 месяца назад +1

      lol so true.

  • @primuzz
    @primuzz 2 месяца назад +6

    The physical build is nice, but it doesnt get along with the spec mastery. Enhance's mastery should be re-designed. I'd love to see something in line of Elemental Overload, where our abilities have a chance to proc again with a % of dmg. Yeah, i miss the 2hand windfury procs of old TBC...

  • @distaste
    @distaste 2 месяца назад +3

    Damage wise it wasn't even close imo. Ele peaked at 579k and held in the 450k-500k range for a good bit and dropped down to 400k, the physical build peaked at 349k and took a good bit to get there while holding in the 300k-320k. The last build hit 409k and held in the 350k-380k range. If we are looking at peak dps the 1st physical build is 40% lower and the 2nd build is 29% lower, that's not a little bit that's a lot. If we look at the averages 2nd build is 25% less and 3rd is 12% less. Damage profile wise the burst on the elemental build is far more favorable in say M+ where each pack you want to burn them down quickly and don't have time to ramp. Even in raids usually any cleave situation you want to burst them down. Obviously stats could be making a big difference and going beyond 6 targets would change things, by how much is certainly something to investigate since ele build will get a bit of uncapped as well. Any of this could get tuned as well
    What I would love to see is a video comparing current(live) storm & Ele build without hero talents and then each of their respective counter parts using Stormbringer and Totemic. So 6 builds tested and then we can get a feel for which build gains more from each hero tree. If you want to go the extra mile then do both cleave and single target.

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 месяца назад +1

      it's very early days for big numbers tests like that. I agree, those tests need to be done, but not now. Once we get into Beta Blizz will do a bunch of number tunings and everything will change. Doing those tests now would be a bit silly or judging builds based on numbers.

    • @Guldfisken90
      @Guldfisken90 2 месяца назад

      You are forgetting one thing. Ele is notorious for being punished by movement, and not being able to setup their initial dmg rotation, where as Enhance just got damage on demand, so i still think enhnace is gonna pull ahead, depending on the weekly affix and dungeon ofc

    • @terkbro1087
      @terkbro1087 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@Guldfisken90bro he was speaking about "Elementalist build" not elemental shaman. He was comparing elementalist build with physical or storm build

  • @ControlledCh4os
    @ControlledCh4os 2 месяца назад +1

    Still seems like a good bit of decisions need to be made for the class. I'm still in the redo the class to have specs focus a specific elements. i.e. Enhancement is Wind, Nature, Earth elements; Elemental is Nature, Fire, Ice elements; Resto is Water, Earth elementals.

  • @itsButeii
    @itsButeii 2 месяца назад +4

    I love how I have to choose which side of the tree i want to play with instead of having a whole hero talent tree :)))) nice one blizzard

  • @MysteryMan159
    @MysteryMan159 25 дней назад +1

    I vote we call this build “flamesmack”

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  25 дней назад

      @@MysteryMan159 lol I love it

  • @arsenicuma5200
    @arsenicuma5200 2 месяца назад

    Big problem with totem build is that it's unmovable, as soon as tank moves the pack outside of your totem - you loose dps

    • @arsenicuma5200
      @arsenicuma5200 2 месяца назад

      Ah, you have projection, forgot about it
      still, quite unwieldy

  • @Xtce87
    @Xtce87 2 месяца назад +1

    Keep the enhancement videos going ! I would love a more windfury/stormstrike build :)

  • @LemonsJ
    @LemonsJ 2 месяца назад +2

    You seemed to get buffed by the augvoker with the first build anyway. I think that second build was doing comparable damage.

    • @MrSherhi
      @MrSherhi 2 месяца назад +1

      damage is totally irrelevant, all numbers are placeholders...the only important thing is how it works and feels together and visuals

  • @Zarod89
    @Zarod89 2 месяца назад +1

    Slow ramp, requires about 5 keybinds to get going. Tank decides to move out of range from totem, dps gone.

  • @ded1020
    @ded1020 2 месяца назад +1

    I think you're gonna want hot hands in any build for this for Reactivity's Searing Volley.

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 месяца назад +1

      Absolutely... After doing a bit more testing, you can drop DRE alltogether for my weird Physical build and pick up more lava Lash talents.

  • @norman9183
    @norman9183 2 месяца назад +1

    So overall I drop a new totem every 30 seconds, wow

  • @OokamiKuma225
    @OokamiKuma225 2 месяца назад

    Honestly, I want to see a DoomNova build work with this. It wasn't the greatest for dps but it was so much fun! This seems like it could work along the lines of a more physical build

  • @TheDylbot5000
    @TheDylbot5000 2 месяца назад +1

    This physical build seems interesting after an entire expansion of running elementalist

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 месяца назад +1

      We'll see what changes they make over the next 2 months, but I would love to see a build that went this direction... I'm kinda done with playing Elementalist, it's been so long, lol.

  • @honestusfitness
    @honestusfitness 2 месяца назад +1

    thats my fav enhance build too.

  • @whostheree
    @whostheree 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm PRAYING that storm is gonna be the better option, I love the ascendance lord of lightning and wind rather than the elementalist totem dog stuff :(

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 месяца назад +1

      The Storm build is quite solid right now

  • @johnkurtanidze3284
    @johnkurtanidze3284 2 месяца назад +2

    This is so shit on so many levels. This is completely disappointing. We got a glorified vesper totem, a glorified magma totem which is split into two talents, some random talents for windfury and flametongue weapon (how are these even related to totems?) and a flacid capstone that effectively reduces the CD of Sundering and buffs one cast of Lava Lash and Stormstrike which don't hit very hard on their own without 50 other buffs rolling. On one side, they're promoting Lava Lash based gameplay and on the other side of the tree they're promoting Stormstrike to be used while investing points into windfurry weapon. Going by how the spec tree is arranged currently (which, needless to say, is dogshit, oppressive, and in desperate need of a top-down rework), this hero talent tree is simply a mish-mash of random nodes that confuses the player on what sort of build to go with. Do I go elementalist build or storm build? Well, the Totemic hero tree apparently suggests you go with a build that does both no better than a man in bed with erectile dysfunction.
    I hope for the best, but so far this is bad.
    And you, Zuco... In many of your videos about the Alpha you remind us "don't worry about the damage, it's just the alpha. It's about the gameplay and how it FEELS to play" and then in other videos, such as this one, you say "don't worry it does plenty damage, you're gonna be fine". So which is it? Pick a side. Cause obviously what matters is the gameplay and how it feels to play, so when you say that "the damage is fine", you're clearly masking something. And in the case of the Totemic hero tree, what I think you're masking is how disappointing this tree really is. Maybe you're not. It's just my opinion. Either way, I suggest you be more consistent with what you say in these Alpha videos.
    Other than that, I do appreciate you making videos daily and showcasing all the new hero talents. Despite my criticism to you above, I'm most likely going to come back for another of your videos. Peace. Hope they do good by Shamans and Hunters soon.

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 месяца назад

      When I say the "damage feels good", I'm saying that relative to all the other specs I've tried on target dummies. That's all. I hope it's obvious to everyone that these are very early days and damage number will 100% change week by week, even into the Beta, possibly until a week or 2 before launch.
      So yes, it is gameplay first, but I do always want to add that the damage feels good enough relative to what I'm seeing on the Alpha right now, that's what I mean when I say that.
      There's a million dps tests that I'm not doing because it's pointless to do so. ST damage. 2-4 target cleave. Mass AoE (10+ mobs)... Those tests will come in time and then I can get an accurate picture. For now, given what I've seen in testing, the damage is good.

  • @johnnymelavo5891
    @johnnymelavo5891 2 месяца назад

    Main enhancement here. Totemic is a disgrace for ENH. You can't make such a hybrid set of talents. We have enough points for either phisical+storm build or elementalist to work properly. Making surging totem do phisical damage and totemic tree empower both builds isnt going to work. It can be easily solved tho, just focus on elementalist build since we have stormbringer for the storm build. Make Surging totem do elemental damage and no need to get windfury totem, rework the last talent ffs and almost ignore the empowering of stormstrike since its more of a filler. I think that would work.

  • @ded1020
    @ded1020 2 месяца назад +1

    What about Reactivity's Searing Volley's? Do they get buffed by Totemic Coordination's crit buffs?

  • @ded1020
    @ded1020 2 месяца назад +1

    How's Ascendance work with Surging Totem + Oversurge talent? does it just buff the pulsing dmg or does it also effect things like searing totem proc or the whirling elements buffs? Maybe even Totemic Rebound?

  • @jordanhowe6694
    @jordanhowe6694 2 месяца назад +7

    They really fucked up enhancement shaman, I don't want a 15 button rotation I want to spam storm strike

  • @Sheriff_K
    @Sheriff_K 2 месяца назад

    Totemic seems really scuffed from what I've heard.. hope they rework it.

  • @lanceblankenship7051
    @lanceblankenship7051 2 месяца назад +2

    I absolutely love your videos!! Question for you (kinda silly), but how did you get so good at analyzing specs within wow and finding these synergies?
    Im inspired by your ability to take something complicated and make it easy to digest for others!

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 месяца назад +1

      Mostly time... I spend quite a bit of time looking at each of these specs before doing a video :)

  • @matobi91
    @matobi91 2 месяца назад

    I do wonder if this will make more sense if there is a small rework for shaman? I know enh is in the best place out of the 3 but I can see them doing an ele/resto touch up and maybe changing enh a little

  • @kharchieff
    @kharchieff 2 месяца назад +1

    Are the visuals just not there yet ? Like the searing totems volleys and stuff. Visually this specc doesn't change at all atm

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 месяца назад

      Yeah the Volleys aren't working. The Tremors are, but they are quite underwhelming

    • @kharchieff
      @kharchieff 2 месяца назад +1

      Hopefully they change shaman a bit later on az they are clearly focussing on other classes first like mages, warlocks, dk's monks and priests. Hopefully the other half follow shortly as shaman is my fav class but look kinda meh in next expansion.

  • @adenmarsterson9447
    @adenmarsterson9447 2 месяца назад +1

    Two weapons? To armour perk set ups? Or have to accommodate for both weapons. Will this be harder to min max?

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 месяца назад

      Enhance always uses to 1-handed weapons no matter what. Also regardless of which build you run, the stats you want on your gear are similar, so there won't be any issue that way.

    • @adenmarsterson9447
      @adenmarsterson9447 2 месяца назад

      @@ZucoWoW oh lol i was watching the new monster hunter trailer and by the time i pressed send it swapped to my next saved to watch later video. Thanks for the reply either way.

  • @Sly_404
    @Sly_404 2 месяца назад +2

    Really think they should make totemic purely elementalist centric, since stormbringer favors physical. I get in theory you would want to have each hero spec support both playstiles but the risk it, it's not working out like that at all and parts of the spec basically become non-valid.
    Or they could finally just make Storm Strike nature dmg and get rid of the friction caused by parts being physical, parts magic.

    • @Roflcorso
      @Roflcorso 2 месяца назад +1

      I hope that they will release several build options with the hero talents, because it lookes like that. But Blizzard already has a big struggle with balancing and I'm still concerned, that they overwhelm themselve with all these changes. Set bonuses are not included yet, they make a big part on the playstyle and you have to build in all these playstyles.
      I really talk for shaman now, because thats the only class I play, but I really hope they balance it out, so we can play Elementalist or Stormstrike like we did in Season 2 DF. And as you said one side of the hero talents should focus on pure Elementalist and the other side pure on Stormstike/Lightning.
      But on shaman, that would be 2 playstyle on each spec (if you count heal spec too, no idea of that, I don't play heal) and that would be in total 6 different playstyles on ONE CLASS.
      This would bring a lot of diversity to the classes, but like I said a lot of work too, in terms of balancing but it would be very cool.
      There's also already a skill where 25% of Stormstrike dmg turns into nature dmg.

  • @TheRandomDude-qy1ev
    @TheRandomDude-qy1ev 2 месяца назад

    ZUCO SENPAI!!!
    Arigatou for showing us this!! suge!!!

  • @kayjay4
    @kayjay4 2 месяца назад +1

    I think hailstorm made more sense in that last build over fire nova

    • @terkbro1087
      @terkbro1087 2 месяца назад

      Yeah and that's sad. Hailstorm has been played the whole xpack over Fire nova. Rework it so hailstorm IS the best single target/cleave option (make it cleave on only 4 targets max, buff a bit dmg) , and Fire nova the best option for 5 and more targets (uncapp it).

  • @kalejarmar3187
    @kalejarmar3187 2 месяца назад +1

    17:37 so with stormbringer we completly ditch the hailstorm/firenova mechanic ?

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 месяца назад +2

      Yes, the Stormbringer Tree won't be using Hailstorm or Fire Nova.

    • @user-ut9iq4iw9t
      @user-ut9iq4iw9t 2 месяца назад

      @@ZucoWoW that's what i was saying you have to take lava to get to hailstorm

  • @Flakie22
    @Flakie22 Месяц назад

    Says surging totem replaces windfury totem, so do you need to put a point into windfury totem anymore?

  • @redwood3200
    @redwood3200 2 месяца назад +1

    any changes to defensive mechanism? Shaman is so squishy in high keys and need better defensives. I don't think blizzard will touch defensives...

    • @itsButeii
      @itsButeii 2 месяца назад +1

      nope, shield is still useless

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 месяца назад

      @@itsButeii It's not a useless shield. You'll have 100% uptime on it (until it gets popped of course). But you don't have to think about it at all. You just get a shield worth about 8% of your max HP nearly all the time. Over the course of an M+ run, that will add up.
      I agree, it could be much better, but it's not nothing.

    • @redwood3200
      @redwood3200 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ZucoWoW Are you saying shaman gets 8% increased hp when shield is active? Was this added in new expansion or something I'm not aware of? I thought as a dps shaman, shield doesn't give you anything.

    • @terkbro1087
      @terkbro1087 2 месяца назад

      Shield like an absorb Shield, not the weapon in your hand...

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 месяца назад

      @@redwood3200 The Totemic Tree gives you a shield whenever you have a totem down, with a 30 second CD. So, the second you put a totem down, you get that shield, and it stays on you for 30 seconds or until destroyed.
      The value of the shield right now on my Shaman is 100k and I've got about 1.5m HP. So that's about 7% of my HP.
      So imagine over the course of a dungeon, if you're running the Totemic Hero Tree, you keep getting this shield every 30 seconds. If you're in a dungeon for 20 minutes, that's 40 shields you'll have gotten, which equals 4 million hp gained as a shield in total.
      It's not amazing, but it's better then more self healing.

  • @ChildofC-53
    @ChildofC-53 2 месяца назад

    More totems and buttons, no damage, nerfed survivability, and windfury is pointless. Shaman are dead on arrival.

  • @miketerlein4339
    @miketerlein4339 2 месяца назад +1

    totemic is useful for more builds and should stay that way, for my build totemic is perfect.

  • @Levelity
    @Levelity 2 месяца назад

    So we have no help in the pvp department.

  • @cbates2410
    @cbates2410 2 месяца назад

    Have they removed the dw only requirement yet

  • @kalejarmar3187
    @kalejarmar3187 2 месяца назад +1

    aaaaaaah just got out of the shower , what's happening ? is it finally playable ? lol

  • @gageracer
    @gageracer 2 месяца назад +1

    More like a classic build where you do damage with basic spells not cooldowns. I dig that.

    • @Guldfisken90
      @Guldfisken90 2 месяца назад

      Well, Enhance has always been in a weird spot, as we are one of the only specs that have went through nearly all itterations of how a core spec performs.
      We had sustained
      We had bursty cds
      We had aoe
      We've been hybrids
      We've been buff bots

    • @Sly_404
      @Sly_404 2 месяца назад

      Which is enhance all of DF

  • @RoidRooster
    @RoidRooster 2 месяца назад +1

    How much health does it have? (I PvP lol)

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 месяца назад +1

      Right now in 486 ilvl gear on the Alpha, I have 1.3 million HP. The totem has 561k hp. Who knows what those numbers will look like on launch, but it's got a lot of hp.

  • @user-ut9iq4iw9t
    @user-ut9iq4iw9t 2 месяца назад +1

    well i can say after seeing this, any thing that only buffs fire totems with out including any other elements that can proc depending on how your built is actually worse than what we have now. Every one has been screaming for their lightning build back. Then they nerfed Thorium's and lightning bolt and force you down a different path. So unless all that was ✌Reset ✌ to previous glory: which I'm sure it wasn't; it just means they're doubling down on fire.🤷‍♀. They need to give us the option of fire or lightning and make us have frost. cuz its the key to it all.

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 месяца назад

      I'm not sure the last time you played, but the Stormbringer tree with Throim's is quite strong right now. Lots of good synergy and damage... This tree works quite well with the current Elementalist build. My weird physical build at the end is just an idea I had. It might not have any gas, but there's still lots of time and tuning to happen. Either way, there are solid builds for both Hero talent trees.

    • @user-ut9iq4iw9t
      @user-ut9iq4iw9t 2 месяца назад

      @@ZucoWoW Ironically, when I came back and wanted to catch up & relearn how enhanced played I was actually watching you. You had said that They nerfed lightning and Thorium's because it was doing to much dmg. So as of I think it was patch 10.1.7 or 10.2 & change the power crept to fire.. Especially with splintered elements and working around our tier set. That being said i set my mind to a bit of a different build
      your great @ delivering content that is easier to understand then a lot of others

  • @Akihito_Kanbara
    @Akihito_Kanbara 2 месяца назад

    Why do you say lava like that...??? I can't man. Please stop 😭
    (also thanks for the vids)

  • @yashuastryfe125
    @yashuastryfe125 2 месяца назад +1

    big sad they didnt give 2h in the tree ): idk who wants to push more totems on a melee class either should have been denied as a melee talent tree the second it was suggested . wouldnt it make more since to have totem tree on healer/ranged dps. Idk i only pvp but the idea of being unable to move as melee sounds horrible. with microsoft taking blizzard maybe apply for one of there opening so theres people who play the game on the team idk shammy feels DOA

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 месяца назад

      I agree the Totemic was better suited for Resto/Ele, but what do you mean you can't move because of the totem? It has a 30 yard range on it's damage (which could easily be increased in the future). You don't have to stand still while it's up.

    • @yashuastryfe125
      @yashuastryfe125 2 месяца назад +1

      sorry i mean thematically i cant move. as in, it hurts my soul, but it's causing no actual damage.

    • @ZucoWoW
      @ZucoWoW  2 месяца назад

      @@yashuastryfe125 Ahhh gotchya

  • @jonathannoble7657
    @jonathannoble7657 2 месяца назад +2

    Enhance itself is a mess... Any talent tree that builds on it will be a mess too. What an abomination of a spec. Rework enhance entirely.

    • @sochimon5944
      @sochimon5944 2 месяца назад +3

      I disagree. Enhance is the most fun spec but they should rework the class tree

    • @lexiconprime7211
      @lexiconprime7211 2 месяца назад +1

      Enhance is NOT a mess. This hero tree is. We currently have two hero talent trees that have a ton of support for the physical/storm build, which completely leaves out the elementalist build, and half of the current enhance tree isn't going to be used in TWW without huge changes.

    • @user-ut9iq4iw9t
      @user-ut9iq4iw9t 2 месяца назад

      @@lexiconprime7211 To be fair they have not reworked the tree they've simply added hero talents. I say again if it doesn't buff any other elements or give us an alternative then it needs to be reworked. So if I personally hate fire and love lightning or frost and its only blasting fire your going in the wrong direction. ( BLIZZ YOU HEARING ME ON THAT), Storm strike is and should have always been the focus of any build and any confusion is problematic. its the elements fire is not there, with out help from earth and air. ice a form of water with destructive properties especially when combined with a heat source Fire Or lightning. Heating & cooling rapidly can be explosive. especially when struck physically. One without the is bad but if you work them all together than its insane. I mean for God sake at least make it look crazy! Its basic metallurgy.