May Athena ikr I been doin sabre for a year and a half and this stuff is exhuasting and it requires extreme momentum , hand eye coordination , and a fast brain.
Why is everyone criticizing this? Every sport has its less exciting moments, including most martial arts. Especially in sabre, although the rules encourage a rushed attack, there are rare parry-riposte moments which are magical. As for everyone with the 'medieval duellists turning in their graves' comments, it's quite hard to turn a match to the death into a sport.
Whoever decided these camera switches deserves to be fired if they haven't already. They're panning away from the action to show replays of bouts anyone with a pair of eyes could have seen.
Hey everyone! I really like Olympic fencing and I would like to solve any problems in fencing. Can you guys help me out and tell me any problems you have, anything from drills, mindset, footwork, tactics, etc?
matt Dailey Judging by your failing attempts at humor, and your foolish joke, I can safely assume you are, at least mentally speaking, no older than he age of eight.
Account thingy Next time you try and insult someone. At least do them the service of actually spelling all of your words correctly! The poor grammar belies your condescending tone and only serves to reassure me that my initial impressions of the situation was correct. Namely that only a fool would find the pathetic display of swordsmanship in these video's to be impressive.
While previous replies are correct, I feel that a better explanation is in order for the people just stumbling across this comment. In sabre, the timer doesn't really mean much. The bouts are always to 15 with a one-minute break when either fencer reaches eight points. Since getting to those point thresholds usually doesn't take three minutes of fencing time, the timer doesn't see much use and is mainly regarded as a joke in sabre communities being only useful for measuring out the one-minute break at eight points. Timers do see use however in epee, in which the individual touches are longer and you have an actual chance of running out of time.
Except for the rare moments where a strike is parried... this feels like I'm watching a game of "heads or tails". Hundreds of renaissance and early modern period duelists are turning in their grave right now.
Fidgottio I did when I was young. I liked it at first but got bored of it when I realised that the competitive rules/metagame didn't allow me to swordplay.
I feel like real sword fighting would be totally different as a single false move could be your last and the sword you are using, likely wouldn't be a sabre and would be a lot heavier
This is one thing I dislike about fencing in the olympics. It's all about the attack, very little about the defense. Combat sport terms, most of these gold medal winners are dead. So many simultanious or near simultanious hits. Anyone know if there's a version of fencing where it needs to be a clear point in order to score? I'd be much more interested in seeing some more defensive styles.
Epee is like that, as well as HEMA. In epee there are many less simul actions and touches are awarded simply based on hits, and HEMA is a historical reenactment. IMO, though, watching epee is only slightly less interesting than watching paint dry
Earl Schroeder besides Fencing doesn't emulate real combat anymore. Many of the techniques used in foil or epee or saber would be nonsensical to use in an actual swordfight
Mehh, should be called a whip dual. This has no relationship to sabre fighting at all, light blades may make you more effective but they should put a minimum weight and thickness on the swords. A sabre is a hefty cavalry weapon. What the hell is this? Coat hanger battle? I think it's a shame that the origins & history of the discipline have been lost for this lame excuse.
+Davidian 77 With the speed these fencers move at, and with the fact the sport is full contact, making the blade heavier is only going to cause more injuries than it already does. Fencing has adapted from traditional sword fighting, and is now it's own thing. It's origins are traced back to traditional fighting with swords, and the basics taught are still similar to that of traditional fighting (how to parry, stance, footwork etc etc). Now if you want to learn the art of fighting with a sword then Hema exists. However remember the need to kill/draw blood with a sword no longer exists, thus fighting with swords has evolved because of this. The sport still requires great mental strength, high endurance/fitness and excellent blade skills.
Sabres aren't as light as the eppe of the foil, they're heavier than they look, the speed of these fencers are so quick that it creates a whipping motion on the sabre
Kye thecrazycatman Reality ? Pal, go check you brain, cause it probably went for a walk. How more “real” can it be without people killing each other ? Fencing is one of the most realistic and fair sports (not a game) out there 😃 Cheers ! P.S. And please, don’t even start me on HEMA)
Bregon Webb that I do not doubt, that doesn't change the fact that the first point in the Men's individual Foil gold medal match lasted longer than the first eight points in this match! There's just not enough tension in the saber matches for me, most of the points are both of them leaping forward hoping they initated the attack first. You most likely enjoy fencing on a deeper level than I do so I will just respectfully say that on the level I'm on, I enjoy watching Foil over the other two.
***** I did say "watch" didn't I? I've participated in a great deal of sports who as fun as hell to play ut dreadfully boring to watch. I never implied that I could enter an fencing competition and win I described what it looked like! The rest of my thoughts on this is in the an earlier response and that is all i'll say.
I bet none of you haters can do this. It's complicated. And as a fencer myself, these players are extremely talented. This is pretty good game.
Pretty good game? lol szilagyi has arguably the best bladework of any saber fencer in the world
May Athena ikr I been doin sabre for a year and a half and this stuff is exhuasting and it requires extreme momentum , hand eye coordination , and a fast brain.
SORRY I WAS A ACTIVE FENCER OF THE 70S, I FAIL TO SEE TALENTED HERE THEY SENT LOVE TAP TO EACH OTHER. IT DONT EVEN LOOK LIKE FENCING ANYMORE
junito1957
Welcome to the future old man, athleticism is a thing now.
junito1957 youre phone broken or r u mad cuz you writing all IN CAPS
Why is everyone criticizing this? Every sport has its less exciting moments, including most martial arts. Especially in sabre, although the rules encourage a rushed attack, there are rare parry-riposte moments which are magical. As for everyone with the 'medieval duellists turning in their graves' comments, it's quite hard to turn a match to the death into a sport.
im sabre champion and szilagyi has an amazing bladework
Just one thing, "OPPPPPPPPPPAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!" -that one guy at a tournament 😂 (only fencers understand)
Very Smart Sandwich lol whenever I go to a tournament and I hear that it pisses me off lol
OMG every time lmao
Very Smart Sandwich I both hate that person and am that person
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
2:51 wow fantastic parry
Whoever decided these camera switches deserves to be fired if they haven't already. They're panning away from the action to show replays of bouts anyone with a pair of eyes could have seen.
It funny how 12 years ago, most of the touches in the middle were called similtaneous, but now, it's way more different
Fr
Super apaixonada por esgrima ❤❤
There's a metal spark at 3:47 lol
That’s normal but cool
3:47 spark
Wow!
Hey everyone! I really like Olympic fencing and I would like to solve any problems in fencing. Can you guys help me out and tell me any problems you have, anything from drills, mindset, footwork, tactics, etc?
how do you o the passata soto?
(epee fencer here)
im sabre u could try running and practicing hits
Bodywire (foil and sabre)
Foil fencer here i just cant stand that foil is flexeble like some weird spaghetty
If you don't like the sport, then go criticize it somewhere else.
+Drako Mallari Or we could work to change it into something more meaningful.
+matt Dailey Or you could not.
I know right, it's perfect already. People just don't have the patience or maturity to understand it.
matt Dailey Judging by your failing attempts at humor, and your foolish joke, I can safely assume you are, at least mentally speaking, no older than he age of eight.
Account thingy Next time you try and insult someone. At least do them the service of actually spelling all of your words correctly! The poor grammar belies your condescending tone and only serves to reassure me that my initial impressions of the situation was correct. Namely that only a fool would find the pathetic display of swordsmanship in these video's to be impressive.
"it's crash bang wallop time!" ... really Karim, really? hahaha, you foilists have never respected us 😉
Bashimillar ey man I used to be a foil, then I switched to sabre. Foil is nothing like sabre, they aren’t used to our version of slash and thunder.
Would someone please explain to me why they proceeded to the second leg of the match after less than a minute of actual fencing time? Thanks!
If one of the fencers reach eight tus there is a break
Thanks!
Julian Bushelli
If one person reaches eight, there is a one minute break.
While previous replies are correct, I feel that a better explanation is in order for the people just stumbling across this comment.
In sabre, the timer doesn't really mean much. The bouts are always to 15 with a one-minute break when either fencer reaches eight points. Since getting to those point thresholds usually doesn't take three minutes of fencing time, the timer doesn't see much use and is mainly regarded as a joke in sabre communities being only useful for measuring out the one-minute break at eight points. Timers do see use however in epee, in which the individual touches are longer and you have an actual chance of running out of time.
Sabre is more entertaining than Epee to me atleast.
epee is an incredible pain to ref for me at least.
@@nelsontucker6490 it's so painful that you can only give points by lights alone
Well watching paint dry is likely more entertaining than watching epee
that was very cool
3:02 3:03 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙥𝙖𝙧𝙧𝙮 𝙘𝙧𝙤𝙨𝙨 𝙬𝙖𝙨 𝙞𝙣𝙨𝙖𝙣𝙚 🤯
and 3:00 3:01
مشكور بو راشد
3:46 the spark
💯 💯 💥
cool
Sabre Fencing 2016: Arena turns into Soul Calibur 2 with Raphael vs Xainhua
я всегда жалел о том что коля проиграл .....
20 ego points to szilagyi.. Must be hard having to order new hat sizes all the time.....
Fencing 101:
1. Go for a strike
2. Pose your best winning battlecry
3. Hope the judges sees it as your point
4. ???
5. Profit
Dermawan Saputra bruh
Drh Putra Fencing 101? Nah that’s just sabre 101
why i play epee 101
#HUN
😪😪😪😪😪😪😪😪
Except for the rare moments where a strike is parried...
this feels like I'm watching a game of "heads or tails".
Hundreds of renaissance and early modern period duelists are turning in their grave right now.
Grégory Levert I take it you've never fenced sabre then?
Fidgottio I did when I was young. I liked it at first but got bored of it when I realised that the competitive rules/metagame didn't allow me to swordplay.
I feel like real sword fighting would be totally different as a single false move could be your last and the sword you are using, likely wouldn't be a sabre and would be a lot heavier
Have you put 2000+ hours into any martial sport? Just curious.
Gregory you are a noob saber fencing is incredibly difficult harder than swordplay in the middle ages.
I think I can hear Alfred Hutton turning in his grave.
thick and fast 😏 hehehe
一3
This is one thing I dislike about fencing in the olympics. It's all about the attack, very little about the defense. Combat sport terms, most of these gold medal winners are dead. So many simultanious or near simultanious hits.
Anyone know if there's a version of fencing where it needs to be a clear point in order to score? I'd be much more interested in seeing some more defensive styles.
Epee is like that, as well as HEMA. In epee there are many less simul actions and touches are awarded simply based on hits, and HEMA is a historical reenactment. IMO, though, watching epee is only slightly less interesting than watching paint dry
@@dennisjin9260 true
@@dennisjin9260 that's the problem, epee is dull and HEMA is very low standard as a sport
Watch foil
Sabre is just way more complicated and requires a lot more tequnique
They should do this with Rapiers and a hit would be no ? about it.
Or the could use real sabres
Earl Schroeder whaddya mean "real sabers"? real sabers would be lethal.
and rapiers wouldn't? I just think that maybe the saber design could actually resemble a saber
ADDerall509 Why? It is based off of the modified German saber. Which also happens to work similarly to fencing except with more preparation.
Earl Schroeder besides Fencing doesn't emulate real combat anymore. Many of the techniques used in foil or epee or saber would be nonsensical to use in an actual swordfight
Better watch anime, the sword fighting there is much more exciting than this.
you've got to understand to enjoy
Mehh, should be called a whip dual.
This has no relationship to sabre fighting at all, light blades may make you more effective but they should put a minimum weight and thickness on the swords. A sabre is a hefty cavalry weapon. What the hell is this? Coat hanger battle?
I think it's a shame that the origins & history of the discipline have been lost for this lame excuse.
+Davidian 77
With the speed these fencers move at, and with the fact the sport is full contact, making the blade heavier is only going to cause more injuries than it already does.
Fencing has adapted from traditional sword fighting, and is now it's own thing. It's origins are traced back to traditional fighting with swords, and the basics taught are still similar to that of traditional fighting (how to parry, stance, footwork etc etc).
Now if you want to learn the art of fighting with a sword then Hema exists.
However remember the need to kill/draw blood with a sword no longer exists, thus fighting with swords has evolved because of this.
The sport still requires great mental strength, high endurance/fitness and excellent blade skills.
+Davidian 77 Try Hema m8, its historical fencing. Longswords, Sabers, rapiers, etc.
Sabres aren't as light as the eppe of the foil, they're heavier than they look, the speed of these fencers are so quick that it creates a whipping motion on the sabre
The fact that you think the Sabres are that light just show's you've never held one.
It's duel, not dual m8
I'm not a fencer but this is a joke. Just like TKD, the path to a sport has removed all martial reality.
baldieman64 there is still HEMA is you want martial reality. its an olympic game because its a sport.
Kye thecrazycatman Reality ? Pal, go check you brain, cause it probably went for a walk. How more “real” can it be without people killing each other ? Fencing is one of the most realistic and fair sports (not a game) out there 😃 Cheers !
P.S. And please, don’t even start me on HEMA)
you have no understanding of martial arts
this is why you don't watch sabre, they're both just swinging wildly. Foil for the win.
Pottan23 That is how you can tell that you aren't familiar with Szilagyi's technicality. He is deadly technical and fast at it.
Bregon Webb that I do not doubt, that doesn't change the fact that the first point in the Men's individual Foil gold medal match lasted longer than the first eight points in this match!
There's just not enough tension in the saber matches for me, most of the points are both of them leaping forward hoping they initated the attack first.
You most likely enjoy fencing on a deeper level than I do so I will just respectfully say that on the level I'm on, I enjoy watching Foil over the other two.
***** I did say "watch" didn't I? I've participated in a great deal of sports who as fun as hell to play ut dreadfully boring to watch. I never implied that I could enter an fencing competition and win I described what it looked like!
The rest of my thoughts on this is in the an earlier response and that is all i'll say.
***** You didn't missjudge my original comment. It's clumsily worded.
Relax, my original comment is poorly worded and that is not your fault.