I have owned about 40 bikes, I have this exact bike (2014) and it is the best bike I have ever owned. I can go through a list of Japanese bikes that have had problems as well. However, BMW was the most costly for me. Bikes are high performance machines and KTM is very high performance but unlike anything else for fun factor. I also have a Ducati and have no expectations of it being reliable. That being said I want the bike that puts the smile on my face and when you buy a vanilla, reliable bike that is exactly what you get. I am sure the maint record on a Ferrari is laughable but people buy them for the fun factor. Enjoy it, fix it and keep enjoying it because you will not find another like it....unless KTM betters this one.
I have 2016 1290 SA and had only one problem initially, that being coolant level dropping. Once properly bled it was fixed and after 15,000klicks no other faults. I have to say, after 47 years of Touring on many different bikes I found a bike that just does everything and does it so well I don't think i will need another upgrade, ever! To those who know about the excellent 1290 motor/ gearbox/ frame/ brakes combo I would point out that I found the major problem that seems to affect all KTM's. You will find that built-in little resident Evil horn adorned bastard hiding on the right hand side, somewhere between your wrist and fingers. It makes my front wheel thinks its a space shuttle and me think I'm immortal. But I've got a permanent grin
I now have 30,000 miles on my 2015 KTM1190r and love the bike. about 1/3 of the miles are off road. Fuel gauge does not work very often, so is common problem. I had a leak through the engine case that was replace on warrantee, that was tough to prove. Just porous casting of case, I guess is happens sometimes. I am hoping to put 100,000 miles on the bike. We will see. I ride about 20,000 miles a year and spend the rest of my time on my KTM690. This bike coast $8,000 less than the BMW 1200 adventure, that was part of what convince me to stay KTM. The bike has to be dependable or all of us that go out in the middle of nowhere are in big trouble. Thanks for the review.
My major complaints are (in no particular order): 1. The mirrors, they get knocked loose and are a pain to keep tightening back up with their reverse thread tightening fastener things. 2. The squeaky chain. I always thought maybe the chain isnt adjusted properly but a good lube up will make it go away for a bit. 3. The amount of heat that comes from under the seat. With jeans on, it still gets rather uncomfortable even in mild temperatures... let alone desert 90/100+ degree heat. 4. The airbox. KTM couldnt have picked a more tedious location to put the air filter. Complaints aside, I really enjoy riding this bike. The offroad capabilities are nice and it also makes for a good travel bike. I've put a Puig aftermarket taller windshield on it and get no wind to my body or helmet at all now as I am a taller rider and was in the buffeting zone directly. I had the same issue with the fuel gauge showing full. A buddy has the R and also has the same issue. I really hope KTM comes out with a recall fix for that but in the mean time I was able to fix it myself. If you pull the shrouds and top tank cover off there is a fuel float tube mounted on the right side. I took it apart and shaved down the cork (?) float slider with a dremel as it stuck every time i rotated the tube where the float would be if the tank was full of fuel. After that I reinstalled it, disconnected the battery for about 15 minutes, then reconnected. Lastly I had to reset both the Trip 1 and Trip 2 gauges and it finally showed me how much fuel i really had. Hopefully the issue is resolved and does not come back.
I´ve got a 2018 1090 R and I can say that after 4 years of trying to tame it- It´s the devils bike! You need to abuse it, wrench it, learn it´s moods and try to anticipate it´s attempts to kill you. I absolutely love it, and would let the Beast take me for any apoctolyptic tour around the world any time. :)
@@Captndarty Brilliant!! Would you be kind to BRIEFLY! (we wouldn't want to exhaust you remembering 😁) point them down, one by one, each & its solution .. for us out there, thinking of obtaining this beauty of a bike?! I have my eyes on one, fully loaded, but with around 37k miles odometer, please advise! Thanks a million & drive safe, God bless.
@@7arkhwf gladly, and thanks for the reply. My loose steering stem was easily adjusted by the dealer within the first year. My short, broken horn wireless replaced at the same time. I am on my third fuel gauge float. The second one was modified and chamfered so the cork wouldn’t get stuck in the top but eventually it got fuel logged and wouldn’t float. Around 18,000 miles the fuel filter became clogged and I could only get half power. I only put clean a good gas in it, so I surmise it was gummed up by the manufacturing residue of the plastic tank. The issues early on with this model, and the airbox not sealing, was quickly remedied with a Rottweiler intake. Those are all the issues I can recall and considering all of the BDR adventures I have done, it’s an exceptionally reliable machine that brings a ton more performance and enjoyment than any other model from its year.
The gas gauge issue is the float inside the tank. it goes up and down with the fuel level, when you fill the tank the float rises all the way to the top on a tube. like a doughnut on a stick. you need to sandpaper the top of the float so it doesnt get stuck at the top.
I feel your pain. I have a new 2016 ducati multistrada, and since 700 miles it has failed me 6 times to date. I have contacted Ducati, and they can have it back. I am done.. I have had loads of new Motorcycles, and i have never had issues like this multistrada. I think once they have it back, i will get the KTM 1290 Super adventure. I hope thats more reliable than this Ducati.
WarDogTheAwesome well i had a 2016 multistrada and i had issues from 700 miles. I now have a new 2016 Aprilia caponord, and although it does not have the claimed 160hp of the ducati, the suspension is way superior. The ADD (Aprilia Dynamic Damping) is unreal, its constanlty changing the suspension for your style and terrain you are riding on. The other advantage over the ducati is a 19" front wheel, so more of a choice of chunky off road rubber available.
I find that very interesting about the steering head bearing. I bought a 2016 KTM 690R and I have had a terrible handlebar shimmy for all of the 5000 miles the dealers about ready to get it back for an inspection. Thank you for your information
You can't buy anything that works as advertised for your money nowadays. A few weeks ago I bought a brand new $30,000 amphibious atv called an argo. When I unloaded it at home, I immediately noticed that the machine sounded like it was going to rattle itself apart every time I turned to the right. I also noticed when I removed the floor pan that there were boot prints all over underneath the floor from someone at the dealership driving it around with the floor pans removed trying to figure out the problem. It had 4 hours on the clock. I narrowed it down to a warped rotor, these machines are skid steer and use a brake on either side to brake that side to steer it. Warped rotor on one side was chattering and causing the transmission gears to lash together and apart badly. Since I live 4 hours away from the dealership, I had to purchase and replace the part myself. When I replaced the rotor I noticed a very clear imprint of the brake pads in one spot on both sides of the old rotor. So whoever the genius was at the dealership that first drove it didn't understand that you can't heat disc brakes up insanely hot and then stop and let it sit. Now the machine has permanent damage to the transmission that I can hear clunking every time I turn from left to right or vice versa. I'm not even going to bother trying to warranty it, the service foreman at the dealership spent a good 5 minutes explaining to me that these machines make weird noises by design and not to bring it in screaming warranty. This was before I had even picked it up. What a joke. This is the most expensive thing I own including my vehicles and I will never buy anything new again.
Man, I feel like I’m very lucky. I have a 2015 1290SA and it’s been virtually bullet proof...ridden all through Russia from Germany on pretty tough roads, now doing Australia . I’m certainly aware of the issues some people have had, but the only problem i had was the high beam dipper switch wasn’t working well...it’s a common problem, and the dealer replaced the entire mode switch cluster on the left hand side. As for the chain...learn how to lubricate it with good old fashioned oil, not that sticky spray on stuff. I use a Pro Oiler from the Netherlands that has a micro pump deliver a metered dose of oil to the chain according to the distance travelled (by gps, not by time or gravity feed). Still on the original chain and original slider, and the chain hasn’t even been adjusted once in 40,000 km. People regularly get 70,000-100,000+ km using this system.
it's all relative. In 2005 I bought a brand new Kawasaki ZX10R and at about 1000 miles, the dealer had to do a complete valve job because the bike just didn't run well and they determined ALL valves were off and that's how it came from the land of the Rising Sun. They also replaced the head gasket because it leaked everywhere....so yeah, shit happens. But it was taken care of and loved and rode the crap out of my 10 for the next 12 years....
madstoppie bought a pearl magma red 05 ZX10r myself. Ran it for 25k without an issue. Should’ve kept it as it was the most comfortable and sexy sport bike to date. Your issues were most definitely an unfortunate anomaly.
That's exactly the color I had! the best looking one for sure....as far as the issues, that's why I said it's all relative, your issues with the KTM may just be just anomalies....haven't seen people complaining about the same issues you did. All I meant was that maybe, your KTM just had a bad batch of certain parts...an anomaly for KTM. I also had a 2005.5 KTM Adventure S and it was flawless....always. My 2000 Yamaha R6 never ever gave me troubles and I beat that poor thing to shit! Anyway, enjoy it man....I'm getting the itch fro another adventure bike and it will be a KTM...
The fuel gauge stuck is a common problem on these bikes, I have a 2015 S and it gets stuck about every other tank fill, and yes the air box is another big issue and also the rear head heat.
Do the tyres grip well tho....what ones are they... PS I know of a 200,000 mile adventure r with no major unexpected issues I got the 2017 r 1290 . Superb bike
lewis eyers The tires are continental TKC 80. They grew up extremely well as they are soft. They were out around 3000 miles. I have since went to the motoz ttacrionator adventure and gps tires. All the issues have subsided except the fuel tank level gauge which is crap on nearly every KTM adventure bike.
ugh! I am buying one of these bikes in the spring. To me, it is a lot cash for a bike. I dont want to hear that this bike has issues.. Thanks for the vid and posting your issues. I'm still buying the bike. I just hope my better half doesn't come across this vid. lol
A used 2016 KTM 1190 R surfaced today for sale. Givi rack and panniers 2 seats, bash plate etc and brand new tires 8k miles in excellent condition. Priced to sell quickly (I think) at $7,900.00. (almost too cheap)! It made me look up videos and reviews to see if there is a major known issue with them. Because of your review, I'm gonna go for it if its legit and fortunately there's a phone number that matches it's geographic area. Glad I read I came across your review as it will help me focus on the right questions, and I will look for the head shake etc. Niggling issues mostly, but I am glad to hear about them. Thank you. I had left a deposit on a great deal on a 16' GS1200ADV, but by chance I came across and fell in love with the new KTM 790 ADV R and cancelled the BMW deposit after finding out how capable that beautifully engineered that bike and the KTMs are. Hard to beat the price of the one I'm discussing compared to the $13k+ 790 R sticker. Wish me luck!
ive had my 1190 lc8 for over 50,000 miles and all ive done is basic valve checks, always been good Ive been lucky enough I changed my oils every 10,000, anybody who had a problem went 20,000 or more and wants to talk shit
Hey! Nice video. Just wanted to say that most of all problems you had come from HOW the bike was assembled, not how it's made. KTM has nothing to do with those problems, your dealer is. All bikes arrive at the dealer in a box, so all assemblino problems come from that process that happens inside the dealer.
Michele Coggiola the bike does come in a box but the only things the dealer has to install are the wheels and perhaps the handlebars. The horn, steering stem, dual float level and rotors are all factory assembly or part quality issues. Yeah maybe the dealer could've checked the steering head but that's about as far as their responsibility goes. They were more than helpful getting things warrantied and fixed.
Could you see taken delivery of the bike, then brought it back a week later for fuel level sending unit replacement? I would never have noticed a bad horn. I'd guess in 37 years of ridings, I've honked less than 4 times. Good catch.
I agree with your issues. May I add, yes, horn wiring too short, inaccurate fuel tank gauge, keep an eye on mileage, about 180+ miles on a full gas tank, inaccurate speed, about 10% less than what is showing on a speedometer, for example…showing me 80 mph, but in reality is 72 mph. My headlight/instrument panel became loose and vibrating while driving, nervios lights, lol 😂 While they change tires in certified services, they TWICE punctured/broke bead on inner wheel belt, they have to replace it, too much inconvenience. Accessing air filter and eng. coolant is pain in a but.
I couldn’t agree more. I still have her though and almost 30 K on the clock. Once you sort out the issues I have confidence in the solutions you found I haven’t seen anything new creep up. I put an aluminum bracket inside the front headlight made by a guy from Australia called Nerb1. Doesn’t bounce or vibrate. Had the fuel gauge float chamfered and now it doesn’t get stuck. All stuff that shouldn’t be something an owner has to deal with bike but styling and motor can’t even be compared to anything else Japanese made.
Thanks for the review, I have my eye on a 2016 model with 1600 kms on the dial and after watching your video I'm thinking I should look at buying a Japanese bike instead.
yoshimitsu411 I still have mine and it has 23,000 miles on it. All my little gremlins have been sorted and nothing has resurfaced. Depending on your personality and riding style there isn’t a Japanese ADV bike out there that can compete.
yoshimitsu411 I have the SW-Motech mount. It how’s the universal bolt pattern for GPS is. I ended up with a Hondo garage perfect squeeze phone mount and it works absolutely perfectly.
@@Captndarty I've just had a look and they both seem to do the same thing. I'm assuming from your reply you decided to go with the Hondo and not the SW Motech? Or did I read that wrong? Thanks
The pads had to be dragging for both rotors to go out like that, no? I've seen dragging disc brakes (simply from improper adjustment) heat up, expand, and then completely LOCK UP at the track before. Real bad news at a track. Could be the end of the rider on the street.
Had the fuel gauge issue as well. #1 issue is the heat coming off the engine. It is really uncomfortable in the Florida heat. It doesn't have a fan of any type to move the heat away from the rider. Really should have cruise control as well.
woaw, me and my mate bought 2 of them in 2015, done around 20,000 kms on them and never have any issues..... you probably been given the ugly duckling from the production line... very sorry to hear your story
An old joke is you want something that was built on a Wednesday in the factory. Monday: everyone has a hang over Tuesday: just getting going Wednesday: everything is good Thursday: everyone starts thinking about the weekend Friday: nobody gives a shit and is just waiting for the end of their shift.
Oiling the chain every gas stop? I think not, at that point you might as well have a two stroke bike you have to put oil on every gas stop... thanks for the honest review.
Good review, but I have to say that I had three ktm's so far, 640 Enduro, 690 smc, and now 1190 r. I never had any issue with any of them but yes they can be temperamental at times. They are hi performance motorcycles, so you must inspect them before ride and take care of them, unfortunately there is no freebies, Enduros bikes due to the harsh environment, power, performances is equal to take care of it. For people that don't want to bother with peculiar maintenance etc... any Japanese Enduros will do the job, but forget about performances, they are powerful enough yes but but not even close to Ktm particularly the 1190 which is a monster, on and off road. The power to weight ratio in the 1190 is just in insane. The problem you experience unfortunately can happen with any bike, brake as well, and it may not be your case but if you don't breaking in them properly you have a chance to warp them, and by the way those are Brembos which are stock in many hi performance motorcycles. Generally speaking if the maintenance is done right and as per schedule this bike will last very long. Any initial issue when you buy a new motorcycle or any other product can happen in any brand as long as the manufacturers are behind their product I don't see it as a big problem. Enjoy your Ktm!
Humberto Dramisino I totally agree,i had sxs which was best experience in my life,and gave nothing more than fun. I had 690smcr,which i abused a lot,learned to wheelie on it,and it held up rock solid. I just replaced stock sprockets,and stock hand grips were pretty terrible making my hands bleed after longer sessions with thin gloves. After that,i traded in 690 for EXC 500 supermoto,wich was excelent bike,but i sold it 3 weeks after getting it. Now im thinking about lightweight adventure bike,but im kinda stuck between choosing these 2 things: power and mainteance. I would like a wr250x or wr250r,but its kinda long road and i dont know will i lack power. Second tought was 701,but i dont know how that will take long trip.
I would suggest 690 or 701 if you target extreme off road on your trip, or 1090 R, if you are budget concern get the Honda CB 500X with the Adventure KIT, it's a beast, it will do off road and road no problem, the reviews are very positive the bike is not too heavy and decent power, and it cost 20% less all included than a 690 or 701.
Feel your pain....I have a 2014 and had a nightmare experience with reliability...these bikes are like race horses - amazing performance when they're feeling good but they're unreliable and tempremental
I have the same bike (2015) and have had NO problems......I'd be unhappy about it. Is your chain too tight? could explain the squeek and oh yeah damn it's a blast to ride.
I want a 1090 but I hate wrenching so I’m getting a Honda or Yamaha. I’m going to stay with the Japanese bikes. The 1090 I rented is the most fun bike I’ve ever ridden.
Fortunately after this video and I sorted out a couple of the little issues I have had any problems since. Almost 30 K on the clock. I haven’t ridden a Japanese adventure bike yet thats nearly half as fun.
Did you say 19 inch front? Interesting if it is indeed 19 inch because our KTM1190R models in Europe are 21 inch, the standard non "R" model has a 19 inch front here.
All of the R models come with a 21 inch front wheel. I was referencing that I was waiting for the Michelin Anakee Wild tires to come out this winter with a 21 inch as they only have them in the 19 inch currently.
toltod it’s depends on how much power you need. Supposedly the 1090 bs 1190 is slightly better with regards to handling, suspension and smoothness if you can make do with the power. For me 25 HP less is huge so nothing less than the 1190 will do.
Most of the fuel gauges get stuck on the 1190 R and are not accurate. You need to take it to the dealer and get it fixed. It is totally unreliable until you make the fix and you should zero out the trip meter and use it until you get the fix.
Bill Johnson the 1190 models have been know to have issues with the lid to the airbox not sealing properly and allowing dust into the intake trumpets. I elected to go with a Rottweiler intake system completely mitigating the chance of this problem.
Captndarty, do you still have this bike, any update on her. I want to buy one but came across your video and now I am kind of scare to pull the trigger.
Yes I still have it and absolutely love her. You won’t be disappointed. It took a year or so to sort out any issues but has been rock solid reliable and now has around 30,000 miles.
@@Captndarty Thanks for the reply that gives me a little more confidence on the purchase, like you I have own several bikes all of them Japanese. The bike I am looking at has 14k miles 2015, but it has tons of extra like touratech suspension front and rear, Rottweiler air filter system, skip plate, extra set of wheels etc. I test ride it and love the power.
@@csiautodetail very cool! I have thought about the Touratech suspension as well. Might still do that or the Konflict setup. I have the Rottweiler on mine as well. Only real niggle I have with the bike is the fuel float. You have to pull it out, disassemble the unit in chamfer the top of the cork so it doesn’t get stuck. Works fine now for me. Also at around 18K my fuel filter clogged. Replaced it with factory components and haven’t had any issues since. I suspect it’s manufacturing residue in the tanks that are causing a white pasty gum so I would have that done as well if I were you.
When I bought my 2017 390 Duke, the dealer told me that the warranty could be voided if I didn't use the stock KTM air filter, as well as changing the stock exhaust to anything besides the Akrapovic system. Is that not the case?
Jake Furmaga my dealer did the install on all my parts. Perhaps it’s subjective based on your dealer and how far they are willing to work with you if you have a warranty claim with KTM. My rotors aren’t effected by anything I installed so that’s an easy claim to file.
Проблемы KTM 1190 Adventure Вот мой личный, довольно подробный обобщенный список проблем этого мотоцикла наблюдаемых мной, моими знакомыми и «людьми с этих ваших интернетов». Их не стоит бояться, нужно просто понимать что любой человек поездивший на любом мотоцикле будет способен по своим наблюдениям составить такой-же список. Например на «тот-самый железный неубиваемый» BMW GS 1150 могу набросать даже длиннее. 1. Скручивающийся при засорении масляный фильтр до загорания лампы низкого давления! 2. Пыль попадающая в айрбокс 3. Выскакивающий привод амортизатора - ведет к очень дорогостоящему ремонту(вычитал где-то) 4. Вскипает тормозная жидкость в заднем суппорте при активном торможении 5. Быстро усаживаются седла клапанов вплоть до невозможности отрегулировать 6. «Ссущие» гидронатяжители на которых теряется масляное давление 7. Часто засоряющийся топливный фильтр(знаю человека в Питере, который меняет его раз в год). Имеются наборы для лечения этой проблемы от Guglatech 8. Слабые цепи ГРМ(за 30т растянуты запредельно) 9. Жидкий обод переднего колеса. 10. Встречается ослабленный натяг подшипника рулевой колонки.(проверьте у кого вобблинг) 11. Жалуются на вобблинг. Есть мнение, что в 90% случаев виноваты кофры, и обратите внимание на пункт #10. 12. Встречается бракованный клапан вентиляции бензобака из-за чего при открытии случается бензиновый гейзер высотой метр 13. Хреновая штатная система крепления кофров и сами кофры 14. Глючность электроники в дождь 15. Гнущийся верхний болт амортизатора 16. Ломающаяся центральная подножка( у меня не сломана но неприятно стучит) 17. Трудность замены ламп в фаре 18. Хреновая штатная ветрозащита 19. Фара разбалтывается. Есть рецепт лечения - аллюминиевый кронштейн, описан здесь ruclips.net/video/JpCEy76Uj5M/видео.html 20. Отваливаются провода сигнала 21. Запотевающая изнутри приборка(у меня ни разу) 22. Грязь из под переднего колеса летит в переднюю голову, как следствие - коррозия, ухудшается отвод тепла 23. Отсутствие защиты справа от выхлопной трубы(для себя не видел такой проблемы) 24. Кому-то «печет» от мотора. 25. Слетают резинки направляющих лобового стекла при верхнем положении 26. У кого-то уходит уровень антифриза. 27. У кого-то слабый стартер на моделях до 15го года. У меня все норм. Кстати, слышал мнение, что KTM 1190 - самый лучший во всем мире мотоцикл! И не только во всем мире - но даже заграницей. Всем пись
em Burgess it's a 6.1 gal tank. The fuel consumption computer is separate from the fuel gage and is pretty accurate when doing milage math. I get between 240-250 miles per tank.
I wonder if all this rings true for the 1090 adventure R I’m about to go look at? And do you live close to your dealership? I live 2 hours away from mine. Maybe thats not smart lol
Jool I don’t think any of the part numbers have changed between the two models other than the items that have been upgraded. It is possible they’ve gone to a different vendor who might make the same park better. I’m about 10 minutes from my dealer. If you have a trailer or a way to transport your bike I would still be comfortable two hours from a dealer. It’s a fabulous bike with some ancillary component quirks.
Jool I have never had an issue that prevented me from getting to the dealer. I guess I was referencing a trailer so that you could leave it overnight and drive home but having someone follow you obviously would suffice.
I have found that all ktms are solid machines but the only problems They have is the electronics are shit I've had to have my display and brake light sensor fail on my 300 xcw in the first two weeks
Gauge and horn are common issues, but the rest just sounds like nitpick to me. Maybe you got factory lemon...? I'm lookin into gettin one of these and have watched about 90 videos so far and you're the only one who seems to have problems. Try to watch actual review videos of people who bought theirs with their own money and actually use it, not just keep it a Starbucks queen! Couple guys I've watched for years who do gun videos and one does survival vids, use this bike and cant say enough good about it. Especially one dude who loads about 1,000lbs onto his bike and goes out shooting or camping. Good video, but think you just got a bad one though.
So it's terribly designed for a 17k bike, things that should work, don't. But you would recommend? I don't get it. I think this is why yamaha eith it's tenere is so popular. All of the capabilities and none of the "poor design" or issues.
This is not a terrible design. The fact it’s an exquisite design one of the best ones out there. It’s in my opinion that the small ancillary downfalls are due to the arrogant pride of KTM. They build a amazing chassis, motor, but couldn’t be bothered with some of the little nuances. They have all been sorted out with little to no other issues over 7 years and 30,000 miles. If I had to do it again I would buy two of them and not one for spare parts
After 6 years of ownership and some first year headaches this bike has been rock solid reliable. I can assure there’s no Japanese bike that can compete in performance and the fun factor.
@@Captndarty Great to hear. There is one for sale near me with 7000 miles for $11,000. And a 2017 Africa Twin, same miles for similar price. So you would pick the KTM over the Honda?
@@THX5000 I would absolutely pick the KTM over the Honda. If power is your thing the KTM has 50% more. These bikes spend 90% of their time on slab or dirt roads so the power matters to me especially loaded with gear and at high altitude. That being said I still ride technical off-road in full sport mode. It’s nice when standing because I only have to twist throttle a tiny bit to get the power I need. Besides that I prefer the ergonomics of the KTM to the Honda as well. You can’t go wrong with the Honda but like most Japanese bikes they’re conservative which translates to a less rambunctious visceral experience. The Honda has its problems that need sorting as well.
SFR SanFranciscoRider I moved to the desert which didn’t have much good twisty riding so I traded it for an XR 650. I’m in a position now to have more than one bike so I did go out and found another ZX10-R like the one I had before.
It really depends on your skill level. I’m 191 cm and can just get the balls of my feet on the ground. Also depends on how thick your boot sole is. For normal writing I would say you would be OK but if you get into some real big boulders where you have to put your foot down and it’s too far that could be an issue as I’ve almost tipped it over that way
Robson Enduro after 23,000 miles I’d say yes it’s trust worthy. There’s a learning curve tho. The rotors crapped out again likely due to glazing or worn floaters. Had the fuel gaged nodded and fixed that. The fuel filter did crap out over the summer in the end in a long trip and basically didn’t allow more than 4,000 rpms.
Robson Enduro is still but mine again ten fold. The fuel filter issue was unexpected and worrisome tho. I’d recommend changing then every oil change which is 9,200 miles so you’re not stranded.
Uh oh, you dared to suggest that Japanese bikes might, on average, be built better. Hope you had fun with the comments section. They, of course, know everything about everything.
Anyone who knows anything about these bikes knows all the goods but might’ve been surprised by the bad. And the good is six years later with 30,000 miles not a single problem past this video.
Sorry to hear that. Perhaps you have a very early production model that wasn’t sorted out. After being irritated sorting out the issues with mine I’m still very happy and haven’t had any further issuers with 30,000 miles on it.
I have owned about 40 bikes, I have this exact bike (2014) and it is the best bike I have ever owned. I can go through a list of Japanese bikes that have had problems as well. However, BMW was the most costly for me. Bikes are high performance machines and KTM is very high performance but unlike anything else for fun factor. I also have a Ducati and have no expectations of it being reliable. That being said I want the bike that puts the smile on my face and when you buy a vanilla, reliable bike that is exactly what you get. I am sure the maint record on a Ferrari is laughable but people buy them for the fun factor. Enjoy it, fix it and keep enjoying it because you will not find another like it....unless KTM betters this one.
Even with your issues , the dealer sounds like they're good at warranting their products. 👍
I have 2016 1290 SA and had only one problem initially, that being coolant level dropping. Once properly bled it was fixed and after 15,000klicks no other faults. I have to say, after 47 years of Touring on many different bikes I found a bike that just does everything and does it so well I don't think i will need another upgrade, ever! To those who know about the excellent 1290 motor/ gearbox/ frame/ brakes combo I would point out that I found the major problem that seems to affect all KTM's. You will find that built-in little resident Evil horn adorned bastard hiding on the right hand side, somewhere between your wrist and fingers. It makes my front wheel thinks its a space shuttle and me think I'm immortal. But I've got a permanent grin
I now have 30,000 miles on my 2015 KTM1190r and love the bike. about 1/3 of the miles are off road.
Fuel gauge does not work very often, so is common problem.
I had a leak through the engine case that was replace on warrantee, that was tough to prove. Just porous casting of case, I guess is happens sometimes.
I am hoping to put 100,000 miles on the bike.
We will see. I ride about 20,000 miles a year and spend the rest of my time on my KTM690.
This bike coast $8,000 less than the BMW 1200 adventure, that was part of what convince me to stay KTM.
The bike has to be dependable or all of us that go out in the middle of nowhere are in big trouble.
Thanks for the review.
qinao coexist 1A
great video, this guy was very thorough....I've owned a few european bikes and what he explained I've gone through it myself
My major complaints are (in no particular order): 1. The mirrors, they get knocked loose and are a pain to keep tightening back up with their reverse thread tightening fastener things. 2. The squeaky chain. I always thought maybe the chain isnt adjusted properly but a good lube up will make it go away for a bit. 3. The amount of heat that comes from under the seat. With jeans on, it still gets rather uncomfortable even in mild temperatures... let alone desert 90/100+ degree heat. 4. The airbox. KTM couldnt have picked a more tedious location to put the air filter.
Complaints aside, I really enjoy riding this bike. The offroad capabilities are nice and it also makes for a good travel bike. I've put a Puig aftermarket taller windshield on it and get no wind to my body or helmet at all now as I am a taller rider and was in the buffeting zone directly.
I had the same issue with the fuel gauge showing full. A buddy has the R and also has the same issue. I really hope KTM comes out with a recall fix for that but in the mean time I was able to fix it myself. If you pull the shrouds and top tank cover off there is a fuel float tube mounted on the right side. I took it apart and shaved down the cork (?) float slider with a dremel as it stuck every time i rotated the tube where the float would be if the tank was full of fuel. After that I reinstalled it, disconnected the battery for about 15 minutes, then reconnected. Lastly I had to reset both the Trip 1 and Trip 2 gauges and it finally showed me how much fuel i really had. Hopefully the issue is resolved and does not come back.
Did it come back
@@justinsmith7808 Nope. Was good to go for a couple of years until I sold it.
I´ve got a 2018 1090 R and I can say that after 4 years of trying to tame it- It´s the devils bike! You need to abuse it, wrench it, learn it´s moods and try to anticipate it´s attempts to kill you. I absolutely love it, and would let the Beast take me for any apoctolyptic tour around the world any time. :)
Awesome! After seven years and 30,000 miles I absolutely love mine. All the issues got sorted out after the first year or so.
@@Captndarty Brilliant!!
Would you be kind to BRIEFLY! (we wouldn't want to exhaust you remembering 😁) point them down, one by one, each & its solution .. for us out there, thinking of obtaining this beauty of a bike?! I have my eyes on one, fully loaded, but with around 37k miles odometer, please advise!
Thanks a million & drive safe, God bless.
@@7arkhwf gladly, and thanks for the reply. My loose steering stem was easily adjusted by the dealer within the first year. My short, broken horn wireless replaced at the same time. I am on my third fuel gauge float. The second one was modified and chamfered so the cork wouldn’t get stuck in the top but eventually it got fuel logged and wouldn’t float. Around 18,000 miles the fuel filter became clogged and I could only get half power. I only put clean a good gas in it, so I surmise it was gummed up by the manufacturing residue of the plastic tank. The issues early on with this model, and the airbox not sealing, was quickly remedied with a Rottweiler intake. Those are all the issues I can recall and considering all of the BDR adventures I have done, it’s an exceptionally reliable machine that brings a ton more performance and enjoyment than any other model from its year.
The gas gauge issue is the float inside the tank. it goes up and down with the fuel level, when you fill the tank the float rises all the way to the top on a tube. like a doughnut on a stick. you need to sandpaper the top of the float so it doesnt get stuck at the top.
First Last I'll definitely give that a try. For the moment it seems to be less sticky with the colder weather...
There are a few good videos showing step by step fix to this problem
@@johncarlson9999 but after you have paid for a brand new bike , why should you have to ?
I feel your pain. I have a new 2016 ducati multistrada, and since 700 miles it has failed me 6 times to date. I have contacted Ducati, and they can have it back. I am done.. I have had loads of new Motorcycles, and i have never had issues like this multistrada. I think once they have it back, i will get the KTM 1290 Super adventure. I hope thats more reliable than this Ducati.
Can you elaborate a bit? I'm looking at ADVs currently and would like to know their issues.
Nvm saw your video.
WarDogTheAwesome well i had a 2016 multistrada and i had issues from 700 miles. I now have a new 2016 Aprilia caponord, and although it does not have the claimed 160hp of the ducati, the suspension is way superior. The ADD (Aprilia Dynamic Damping) is unreal, its constanlty changing the suspension for your style and terrain you are riding on. The other advantage over the ducati is a 19" front wheel, so more of a choice of chunky off road rubber available.
yamaha - the motor isn't the best its buzzy feeling but reliable - if not Honda African twin
well ducati is made to hang on wall not to drive
Add some preload on the back spring will help on the chain problem
I find that very interesting about the steering head bearing. I bought a 2016 KTM 690R and I have had a terrible handlebar shimmy for all of the 5000 miles the dealers about ready to get it back for an inspection. Thank you for your information
You can't buy anything that works as advertised for your money nowadays. A few weeks ago I bought a brand new $30,000 amphibious atv called an argo. When I unloaded it at home, I immediately noticed that the machine sounded like it was going to rattle itself apart every time I turned to the right. I also noticed when I removed the floor pan that there were boot prints all over underneath the floor from someone at the dealership driving it around with the floor pans removed trying to figure out the problem. It had 4 hours on the clock. I narrowed it down to a warped rotor, these machines are skid steer and use a brake on either side to brake that side to steer it. Warped rotor on one side was chattering and causing the transmission gears to lash together and apart badly. Since I live 4 hours away from the dealership, I had to purchase and replace the part myself. When I replaced the rotor I noticed a very clear imprint of the brake pads in one spot on both sides of the old rotor. So whoever the genius was at the dealership that first drove it didn't understand that you can't heat disc brakes up insanely hot and then stop and let it sit.
Now the machine has permanent damage to the transmission that I can hear clunking every time I turn from left to right or vice versa. I'm not even going to bother trying to warranty it, the service foreman at the dealership spent a good 5 minutes explaining to me that these machines make weird noises by design and not to bring it in screaming warranty. This was before I had even picked it up. What a joke. This is the most expensive thing I own including my vehicles and I will never buy anything new again.
Man, I feel like I’m very lucky. I have a 2015 1290SA and it’s been virtually bullet proof...ridden all through Russia from Germany on pretty tough roads, now doing Australia . I’m certainly aware of the issues some people have had, but the only problem i had was the high beam dipper switch wasn’t working well...it’s a common problem, and the dealer replaced the entire mode switch cluster on the left hand side.
As for the chain...learn how to lubricate it with good old fashioned oil, not that sticky spray on stuff. I use a Pro Oiler from the Netherlands that has a micro pump deliver a metered dose of oil to the chain according to the distance travelled (by gps, not by time or gravity feed). Still on the original chain and original slider, and the chain hasn’t even been adjusted once in 40,000 km. People regularly get 70,000-100,000+ km using this system.
it's all relative. In 2005 I bought a brand new Kawasaki ZX10R and at about 1000 miles, the dealer had to do a complete valve job because the bike just didn't run well and they determined ALL valves were off and that's how it came from the land of the Rising Sun. They also replaced the head gasket because it leaked everywhere....so yeah, shit happens. But it was taken care of and loved and rode the crap out of my 10 for the next 12 years....
madstoppie bought a pearl magma red 05 ZX10r myself. Ran it for 25k without an issue. Should’ve kept it as it was the most comfortable and sexy sport bike to date. Your issues were most definitely an unfortunate anomaly.
That's exactly the color I had! the best looking one for sure....as far as the issues, that's why I said it's all relative, your issues with the KTM may just be just anomalies....haven't seen people complaining about the same issues you did. All I meant was that maybe, your KTM just had a bad batch of certain parts...an anomaly for KTM. I also had a 2005.5 KTM Adventure S and it was flawless....always. My 2000 Yamaha R6 never ever gave me troubles and I beat that poor thing to shit! Anyway, enjoy it man....I'm getting the itch fro another adventure bike and it will be a KTM...
The fuel gauge stuck is a common problem on these bikes, I have a 2015 S and it gets stuck about every other tank fill, and yes the air box is another big issue and also the rear head heat.
Do the tyres grip well tho....what ones are they...
PS I know of a 200,000 mile adventure r with no major unexpected issues
I got the 2017 r 1290 . Superb bike
lewis eyers The tires are continental TKC 80. They grew up extremely well as they are soft. They were out around 3000 miles. I have since went to the motoz ttacrionator adventure and gps tires. All the issues have subsided except the fuel tank level gauge which is crap on nearly every KTM adventure bike.
GR8 THANKS MAN, NO BS I LIKE IT.
ugh! I am buying one of these bikes in the spring. To me, it is a lot cash for a bike. I dont want to hear that this bike has issues.. Thanks for the vid and posting your issues.
I'm still buying the bike. I just hope my better half doesn't come across this vid. lol
Every issue you've had I had the same problem. Horn stopped working fuel gauge keeps reading full and chain slap
A used 2016 KTM 1190 R surfaced today for sale. Givi rack and panniers 2 seats, bash plate etc and brand new tires 8k miles in excellent condition. Priced to sell quickly (I think) at $7,900.00. (almost too cheap)! It made me look up videos and reviews to see if there is a major known issue with them. Because of your review, I'm gonna go for it if its legit and fortunately there's a phone number that matches it's geographic area. Glad I read I came across your review as it will help me focus on the right questions, and I will look for the head shake etc. Niggling issues mostly, but I am glad to hear about them. Thank you.
I had left a deposit on a great deal on a 16' GS1200ADV, but by chance I came across and fell in love with the new KTM 790 ADV R and cancelled the BMW deposit after finding out how capable that beautifully engineered that bike and the KTMs are. Hard to beat the price of the one I'm discussing compared to the $13k+ 790 R sticker. Wish me luck!
Hallo mate.. Finally you bought the 790 r?
That bike is all kinds of cool!
ive had my 1190 lc8 for over 50,000 miles and all ive done is basic valve checks, always been good Ive been lucky enough I changed my oils every 10,000, anybody who had a problem went 20,000 or more and wants to talk shit
Hey! Nice video.
Just wanted to say that most of all problems you had come from HOW the bike was assembled, not how it's made.
KTM has nothing to do with those problems, your dealer is.
All bikes arrive at the dealer in a box, so all assemblino problems come from that process that happens inside the dealer.
Michele Coggiola the bike does come in a box but the only things the dealer has to install are the wheels and perhaps the handlebars. The horn, steering stem, dual float level and rotors are all factory assembly or part quality issues. Yeah maybe the dealer could've checked the steering head but that's about as far as their responsibility goes. They were more than helpful getting things warrantied and fixed.
Those indicators are huge,we get little led ones here in oz,yer ive had dramas with mine but its worth it
Could you see taken delivery of the bike, then brought it back a week later for fuel level sending unit replacement?
I would never have noticed a bad horn. I'd guess in 37 years of ridings, I've honked less than 4 times. Good catch.
I agree with your issues. May I add, yes, horn wiring too short, inaccurate fuel tank gauge, keep an eye on mileage, about 180+ miles on a full gas tank, inaccurate speed, about 10% less than what is showing on a speedometer, for example…showing me 80 mph, but in reality is 72 mph. My headlight/instrument panel became loose and vibrating while driving, nervios lights, lol 😂 While they change tires in certified services, they TWICE punctured/broke bead on inner wheel belt, they have to replace it, too much inconvenience. Accessing air filter and eng. coolant is pain in a but.
I couldn’t agree more. I still have her though and almost 30 K on the clock. Once you sort out the issues I have confidence in the solutions you found I haven’t seen anything new creep up. I put an aluminum bracket inside the front headlight made by a guy from Australia called Nerb1. Doesn’t bounce or vibrate. Had the fuel gauge float chamfered and now it doesn’t get stuck. All stuff that shouldn’t be something an owner has to deal with bike but styling and motor can’t even be compared to anything else Japanese made.
Great video. Looking to sale my Honda 650 L to buy this type of bike.
Thanks for the review, I have my eye on a 2016 model with 1600 kms on the dial and after watching your video I'm thinking I should look at buying a Japanese bike instead.
yoshimitsu411 I still have mine and it has 23,000 miles on it. All my little gremlins have been sorted and nothing has resurfaced. Depending on your personality and riding style there isn’t a Japanese ADV bike out there that can compete.
@@Captndarty I ended up buying the KTM and I'm happy. I'd like to know what GPS mount you have on your bike. Thanks
yoshimitsu411 I have the SW-Motech mount. It how’s the universal bolt pattern for GPS is. I ended up with a Hondo garage perfect squeeze phone mount and it works absolutely perfectly.
@@Captndarty thanks, I'll have a look for the same. Cheers
@@Captndarty I've just had a look and they both seem to do the same thing. I'm assuming from your reply you decided to go with the Hondo and not the SW Motech? Or did I read that wrong? Thanks
The pads had to be dragging for both rotors to go out like that, no? I've seen dragging disc brakes (simply from improper adjustment) heat up, expand, and then completely LOCK UP at the track before. Real bad news at a track. Could be the end of the rider on the street.
It's possible as they did squeak but they didn't make any mention of sticky pads. 3000 miles later with replacement rotors and everything is smooth.
Had the fuel gauge issue as well. #1 issue is the heat coming off the engine. It is really uncomfortable in the Florida heat. It doesn't have a fan of any type to move the heat away from the rider. Really should have cruise control as well.
I have the same bike some of the same problems but it sounds like your dealer is way better than mine at going to bat for you on warranty issues
woaw, me and my mate bought 2 of them in 2015, done around 20,000 kms on them and never have any issues..... you probably been given the ugly duckling from the production line...
very sorry to hear your story
An old joke is you want something that was built on a Wednesday in the factory.
Monday: everyone has a hang over
Tuesday: just getting going
Wednesday: everything is good
Thursday: everyone starts thinking about the weekend
Friday: nobody gives a shit and is just waiting for the end of their shift.
Oiling the chain every gas stop? I think not, at that point you might as well have a two stroke bike you have to put oil on every gas stop... thanks for the honest review.
Good review, but I have to say that I had three ktm's so far, 640 Enduro, 690 smc, and now 1190 r.
I never had any issue with any of them but yes they can be temperamental at times. They are hi performance motorcycles, so you must inspect them before ride and take care of them, unfortunately there is no freebies, Enduros bikes due to the harsh environment, power, performances is equal to take care of it.
For people that don't want to bother with peculiar maintenance etc... any Japanese Enduros will do the job, but forget about performances, they are powerful enough yes but but not even close to Ktm particularly the 1190 which is a monster, on and off road.
The power to weight ratio in the 1190 is just in insane.
The problem you experience unfortunately can happen with any bike, brake as well, and it may not be your case but if you don't breaking in them properly you have a chance to warp them, and by the way those are Brembos which are stock in many hi performance motorcycles.
Generally speaking if the maintenance is done right and as per schedule this bike will last very long.
Any initial issue when you buy a new motorcycle or any other product can happen in any brand as long as the manufacturers are behind their product I don't see it as a big problem.
Enjoy your Ktm!
Humberto Dramisino I totally agree,i had sxs which was best experience in my life,and gave nothing more than fun.
I had 690smcr,which i abused a lot,learned to wheelie on it,and it held up rock solid.
I just replaced stock sprockets,and stock hand grips were pretty terrible making my hands bleed after longer sessions with thin gloves.
After that,i traded in 690 for EXC 500 supermoto,wich was excelent bike,but i sold it 3 weeks after getting it.
Now im thinking about lightweight adventure bike,but im kinda stuck between choosing these 2 things: power and mainteance.
I would like a wr250x or wr250r,but its kinda long road and i dont know will i lack power.
Second tought was 701,but i dont know how that will take long trip.
I would suggest 690 or 701 if you target extreme off road on your trip, or 1090 R, if you are budget concern get the Honda CB 500X with the Adventure KIT, it's a beast, it will do off road and road no problem, the reviews are very positive the bike is not too heavy and decent power, and it cost 20% less all included than a 690 or 701.
Feel your pain....I have a 2014 and had a nightmare experience with reliability...these bikes are like race horses - amazing performance when they're feeling good but they're unreliable and tempremental
I have the same bike (2015) and have had NO problems......I'd be unhappy about it. Is your chain too tight? could explain the squeek and oh yeah damn it's a blast to ride.
I want a 1090 but I hate wrenching so I’m getting a Honda or Yamaha. I’m going to stay with the Japanese bikes. The 1090 I rented is the most fun bike I’ve ever ridden.
Fortunately after this video and I sorted out a couple of the little issues I have had any problems since. Almost 30 K on the clock. I haven’t ridden a Japanese adventure bike yet thats nearly half as fun.
Did you say 19 inch front? Interesting if it is indeed 19 inch because our KTM1190R models in Europe are 21 inch, the standard non "R" model has a 19 inch front here.
All of the R models come with a 21 inch front wheel. I was referencing that I was waiting for the Michelin Anakee Wild tires to come out this winter with a 21 inch as they only have them in the 19 inch currently.
I"m really torn between the 1190 and 1090....right now they seem like a much better value for dollar compared to getting the newer Yamaha T7
toltod it’s depends on how much power you need. Supposedly the 1090 bs 1190 is slightly better with regards to handling, suspension and smoothness if you can make do with the power. For me 25 HP less is huge so nothing less than the 1190 will do.
I have but the heat on the legs is i think is a problem.
thanks.great review
Most of the fuel gauges get stuck on the 1190 R and are not accurate. You need to take it to the dealer and get it fixed. It is totally unreliable until you make the fix and you should zero out the trip meter and use it until you get the fix.
How comfortable is this bike. Secondly is this a good touring bike for long distances ?
It’s extremely comfortable. I’ve done 650 miles in one day which on any bike is far far too much. There are always seat options to suit your behind
Dude what was the comment on the air box ? was it about a mod for a problem ? if so what was problem and what is the mod ? cheers Johno.
Bill Johnson the 1190 models have been know to have issues with the lid to the airbox not sealing properly and allowing dust into the intake trumpets. I elected to go with a Rottweiler intake system completely mitigating the chance of this problem.
Captndarty, do you still have this bike, any update on her. I want to buy one but came across your video and now I am kind of scare to pull the trigger.
Yes I still have it and absolutely love her. You won’t be disappointed. It took a year or so to sort out any issues but has been rock solid reliable and now has around 30,000 miles.
@@Captndarty Thanks for the reply that gives me a little more confidence on the purchase, like you I have own several bikes all of them Japanese. The bike I am looking at has 14k miles 2015, but it has tons of extra like touratech suspension front and rear, Rottweiler air filter system, skip plate, extra set of wheels etc. I test ride it and love the power.
@@csiautodetail very cool! I have thought about the Touratech suspension as well. Might still do that or the Konflict setup. I have the Rottweiler on mine as well. Only real niggle I have with the bike is the fuel float. You have to pull it out, disassemble the unit in chamfer the top of the cork so it doesn’t get stuck. Works fine now for me. Also at around 18K my fuel filter clogged. Replaced it with factory components and haven’t had any issues since. I suspect it’s manufacturing residue in the tanks that are causing a white pasty gum so I would have that done as well if I were you.
@@Captndarty thanks for the info 👍
When I bought my 2017 390 Duke, the dealer told me that the warranty could be voided if I didn't use the stock KTM air filter, as well as changing the stock exhaust to anything besides the Akrapovic system. Is that not the case?
Jake Furmaga my dealer did the install on all my parts. Perhaps it’s subjective based on your dealer and how far they are willing to work with you if you have a warranty claim with KTM. My rotors aren’t effected by anything I installed so that’s an easy claim to file.
Проблемы KTM 1190 Adventure
Вот мой личный, довольно подробный обобщенный список проблем этого мотоцикла наблюдаемых мной, моими знакомыми и «людьми с этих ваших интернетов». Их не стоит бояться, нужно просто понимать что любой человек поездивший на любом мотоцикле будет способен по своим наблюдениям составить такой-же список. Например на «тот-самый железный неубиваемый» BMW GS 1150 могу набросать даже длиннее.
1. Скручивающийся при засорении масляный фильтр до загорания лампы низкого давления!
2. Пыль попадающая в айрбокс
3. Выскакивающий привод амортизатора - ведет к очень дорогостоящему ремонту(вычитал где-то)
4. Вскипает тормозная жидкость в заднем суппорте при активном торможении
5. Быстро усаживаются седла клапанов вплоть до невозможности отрегулировать
6. «Ссущие» гидронатяжители на которых теряется масляное давление
7. Часто засоряющийся топливный фильтр(знаю человека в Питере, который меняет его раз в год). Имеются наборы для лечения этой проблемы от Guglatech
8. Слабые цепи ГРМ(за 30т растянуты запредельно)
9. Жидкий обод переднего колеса.
10. Встречается ослабленный натяг подшипника рулевой колонки.(проверьте у кого вобблинг)
11. Жалуются на вобблинг. Есть мнение, что в 90% случаев виноваты кофры, и обратите внимание на пункт #10.
12. Встречается бракованный клапан вентиляции бензобака из-за чего при открытии случается бензиновый гейзер высотой метр
13. Хреновая штатная система крепления кофров и сами кофры
14. Глючность электроники в дождь
15. Гнущийся верхний болт амортизатора
16. Ломающаяся центральная подножка( у меня не сломана но неприятно стучит)
17. Трудность замены ламп в фаре
18. Хреновая штатная ветрозащита
19. Фара разбалтывается. Есть рецепт лечения - аллюминиевый кронштейн, описан здесь ruclips.net/video/JpCEy76Uj5M/видео.html
20. Отваливаются провода сигнала
21. Запотевающая изнутри приборка(у меня ни разу)
22. Грязь из под переднего колеса летит в переднюю голову, как следствие - коррозия, ухудшается отвод тепла
23. Отсутствие защиты справа от выхлопной трубы(для себя не видел такой проблемы)
24. Кому-то «печет» от мотора.
25. Слетают резинки направляющих лобового стекла при верхнем положении
26. У кого-то уходит уровень антифриза.
27. У кого-то слабый стартер на моделях до 15го года. У меня все норм.
Кстати, слышал мнение, что KTM 1190 - самый лучший во всем мире мотоцикл! И не только во всем мире - но даже заграницей. Всем пись
How big is gas tank an how far will a tank of gas take you when the fuel gauge is working?
em Burgess it's a 6.1 gal tank. The fuel consumption computer is separate from the fuel gage and is pretty accurate when doing milage math. I get between 240-250 miles per tank.
Nice. Very nice motorcycle...
I wonder if all this rings true for the 1090 adventure R I’m about to go look at?
And do you live close to your dealership? I live 2 hours away from mine. Maybe thats not smart lol
Jool I don’t think any of the part numbers have changed between the two models other than the items that have been upgraded. It is possible they’ve gone to a different vendor who might make the same park better. I’m about 10 minutes from my dealer. If you have a trailer or a way to transport your bike I would still be comfortable two hours from a dealer. It’s a fabulous bike with some ancillary component quirks.
Captndarty oh alrighty - nope no trailer no nothing to get me to the dealership. So with all these little things that could go wrong I’m just worried.
Jool I have never had an issue that prevented me from getting to the dealer. I guess I was referencing a trailer so that you could leave it overnight and drive home but having someone follow you obviously would suffice.
Captndarty very true! Good point! thanks for your help sir!
I have found that all ktms are solid machines but the only problems They have is the electronics are shit I've had to have my display and brake light sensor fail on my 300 xcw in the first two weeks
Gauge and horn are common issues, but the rest just sounds like nitpick to me. Maybe you got factory lemon...? I'm lookin into gettin one of these and have watched about 90 videos so far and you're the only one who seems to have problems. Try to watch actual review videos of people who bought theirs with their own money and actually use it, not just keep it a Starbucks queen! Couple guys I've watched for years who do gun videos and one does survival vids, use this bike and cant say enough good about it. Especially one dude who loads about 1,000lbs onto his bike and goes out shooting or camping.
Good video, but think you just got a bad one though.
Shouldnt the dealer be checking that loose steering bolt on ALL the bikes BEFORE letting a customer ride off??
Michael Schneider One would think so.... it did have several thousand miles on it so maybe it’s a design that has a propensity to loosen up?
@@Captndarty True but if they are aware of that, they should tell you are have a fix or at least maybe put on some loctite.
So it's terribly designed for a 17k bike, things that should work, don't. But you would recommend? I don't get it. I think this is why yamaha eith it's tenere is so popular. All of the capabilities and none of the "poor design" or issues.
This is not a terrible design. The fact it’s an exquisite design one of the best ones out there. It’s in my opinion that the small ancillary downfalls are due to the arrogant pride of KTM. They build a amazing chassis, motor, but couldn’t be bothered with some of the little nuances. They have all been sorted out with little to no other issues over 7 years and 30,000 miles. If I had to do it again I would buy two of them and not one for spare parts
This is why I will always buy japanese cars over german ones.
After 6 years of ownership and some first year headaches this bike has been rock solid reliable. I can assure there’s no Japanese bike that can compete in performance and the fun factor.
@@Captndarty Great to hear. There is one for sale near me with 7000 miles for $11,000. And a 2017 Africa Twin, same miles for similar price. So you would pick the KTM over the Honda?
@@THX5000 I would absolutely pick the KTM over the Honda. If power is your thing the KTM has 50% more. These bikes spend 90% of their time on slab or dirt roads so the power matters to me especially loaded with gear and at high altitude. That being said I still ride technical off-road in full sport mode. It’s nice when standing because I only have to twist throttle a tiny bit to get the power I need. Besides that I prefer the ergonomics of the KTM to the Honda as well. You can’t go wrong with the Honda but like most Japanese bikes they’re conservative which translates to a less rambunctious visceral experience. The Honda has its problems that need sorting as well.
@@Captndarty Awesome, thanks for the reply!
why did you stop riding zx10r ?
SFR SanFranciscoRider I moved to the desert which didn’t have much good twisty riding so I traded it for an XR 650. I’m in a position now to have more than one bike so I did go out and found another ZX10-R like the one I had before.
I paid $20,500 2015 adv r, I have the same crap with mine. Welcome to team orange.
Hallo guys.. I considering to buy a ktm 1190 adv r 2013..i am 178 cm.. Is this bike suitable for me or its too tall?
Thanks
It really depends on your skill level. I’m 191 cm and can just get the balls of my feet on the ground. Also depends on how thick your boot sole is. For normal writing I would say you would be OK but if you get into some real big boulders where you have to put your foot down and it’s too far that could be an issue as I’ve almost tipped it over that way
@@Captndarty thank you for your quickly response!! I stuck between 1190 adv r and the 1090 adv..
smile on your face is one thing but can you trust it on long journey?
Robson Enduro after 23,000 miles I’d say yes it’s trust worthy. There’s a learning curve tho. The rotors crapped out again likely due to glazing or worn floaters. Had the fuel gaged nodded and fixed that. The fuel filter did crap out over the summer in the end in a long trip and basically didn’t allow more than 4,000 rpms.
@@Captndarty thinking about getting 1090 adv R the's why I'm asking .
Robson Enduro is still but mine again ten fold. The fuel filter issue was unexpected and worrisome tho. I’d recommend changing then every oil change which is 9,200 miles so you’re not stranded.
Uh oh, you dared to suggest that Japanese bikes might, on average, be built better. Hope you had fun with the comments section. They, of course, know everything about everything.
Nice bike, I just think it sounds like it has too many issues..
How about you do another review now? I guess you put a lot of kms from back then,
Andrew M not a bad idea. I’ll probably to one in a couple months when the snow melts here.
disappointing indeed at this price range...
It looks Your dealer is a bit loose... not bike...
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a review discusses the good and bad. not 100% bads :D lol. rename your video.
Anyone who knows anything about these bikes knows all the goods but might’ve been surprised by the bad. And the good is six years later with 30,000 miles not a single problem past this video.
i have a 1190 from 2013, what can I say - a f. expensive piece of shit. Very disappointed.
Sorry to hear that. Perhaps you have a very early production model that wasn’t sorted out. After being irritated sorting out the issues with mine I’m still very happy and haven’t had any further issuers with 30,000 miles on it.