Jake, for the advertised power rating on amazon, i found out that the power rating listed on many LEDs on the interweb, the power rating listed means that the LED can output a similar intensity light near to a incandescent 35W bulb. Doesn't mean that the LED it self is 35W. The LED power consumption is way less
Looks great! One tip: When you build your own brackets, always file a radius on each corner. Keeps you from getting your hand gashed when working on things in the future.
These electrical vids for lighting and charging are a great help for us who are more mechanical than electrical. I have watched all of your vids over the years and love them all but hte electrical for putting an off road bike to road worthy and also vids like this one are great to watch and learn.
I never put a light bar on a dirt bike before but it's a great idea. Especially for going on sunset rides. I had a Honda 250 growing up and would ride it through trails to my first job (a cart pusher at a grocery store). Sometimes I wouldn't make it home until it was dark out and it was so hard to see where I was going that I'd often be riding slower than I could run on my feet.
He's like me...months between haircuts. I like to get my money's worth😎...and have the neighbors think I can afford a gardener (one neighbor thought I had hired one...it was just me with longer hair). 😂
@@billbillinger2491 Funny that you bring up gardeners, I treat my hair like I treat my lawn, I wait until it's well overdue and then chop it as short as I can get away with.
Another well put together video (and your lovely assistant) over the years I've bought a lot of offroad lights. I will only buy spot beams with side shooters.Hobo Freight gets my nod for 3" Roadshock spots/sideshooters. Same for Light Bars, no combo beams/floods. Don't cut your hair it really bothers some people 😂
Woo hoo nice one , great video... erm holding capacitor... be carefully they can hold a charge and are dangerous ... can kill ... dependant on farad capacity and voltage. Charge one up and careful discharge with insulated handled screwdriver ... you'll see why ... They use capacitors in disposable cameras ... for the flash ... that's the whistle you hear when flash is getting ready !!
The thing about capacitors ,is unlike batteries... the charge they hold , gets released in one go . Read up on them ,so you can handle them safely... always use something ... other than yourself, to make sure they are discharged ,before touching them .
@@wayne7521In this case though, the capacitor is only being charged and discharged simultaneously (when the switch is on). They are used for smoothing the DC ripple when getting voltage from a rectifier in many cases.
@@Kappa-oj3sz true ,but should a person with lack if knowledge ,touch the pins accidently .... and the lights were turned out before the engine stopped ... Then it's likely they would still hold a charge .. and it doesn't take a lot of current or / and voltage to stop a person's heart. Apart from the current and voltage , a person may have unknown health issues... that contribute to electrocution been likely ... You said cap is only used as a ballast to smooth out electric flow to light... but with a switch incorporated , dependant on where break is situated, the cap can still hold charge afterwards ... Then there is chance of maintenance needed ... then it's best ve safe than sorry ... Apart from this capacitors are a wonderful conception ... and they span back through history ... shame they are so many nay sayers ,thst cannot keep an open mind . The world is magical ... just nit in the sense of Harry potter and wands etc
@@Kappa-oj3sz p.s. ,cannot recall less I watch vid .... but if switch is between light and cap ... then chance that cap can still hold charge ...like previously stated . Yet If switch were placed between cap and rectifier ,then there'd be a chance that ,the light bar would drain the capacitor (cap)
By the way ,your statement is so untrue ... you may want to ask Jake ,I belive his name ... where the switch is incorporated in his design ... To whether you may die or not ... pls don't be one of those ppl ,who touch a hot pipe and then go ooh that's hot ...
ONE SMART DUDE! I would put a inline fuse just to be safe. Reminds me of my dad lol. Jake, you should open up a little motorcycle repair shop. I feel it would do you very good. Keep up the good work man. Showing love here from IL.
Sorry to critique, Jake, but may I suggest you mount that rectifier upside down. I know the wires pass through a rubber grommet, but we all knew the "quality" of Jhinese jhunk components. Why take the gamble of moisture getting past that grommet and down into the case? Also, do you have space to mount a second capacitor parallel with the first? That should increase your storage, for times when the motor is idling for awhile, and not providing significant charging.
wiring diagram of regulator/rectifier Green: Ground Red: 12v to charge battery Yellow: AC volt from stator (all the unwrapped coils) Pink: also AC volt from stator (single wrapped coil. This is probably ac volt headlights & AC CDI) Unless the unit you got had specific wiring diagram
If you hook about 4 caps in parallel, you'll get a bit more storage capacity that will allow the lights to remain bright for longer when the bike isn't revving.
I don’t think you need the battery or make the current DC, because on my bike (1982 Honda xr200r) the lights are on when the bike is also it runs AC current too the taillight and headlights, it’s all from the factory like that.
You can do that even cheaper, you only need a single diode (preferably a so-called "power diode" which can handle a few amps) coming off the alternator and going to the capacitor, a lot of small engine products with e-start often use this simple setup (minus the capacitor) to charge up the battery as it runs, though a full-bridge rectifier, which is what's hiding inside that mystery black heatsinked box, does extract more power, and that's just as easy to make very affordbaly as it uses 4x diodes... :)
Good choice in capacitor size👍 If you need to ask any questions about electronics, feel free to ask me (one of my careers was as an electronics engineering technologist) and follow my channel! I was also the head mechanic (as well as manager/benefactor) of my son's racing venture. He was a pro level off road racer in Canada. So, I know bikes too.
Set mine up exactly as yours. Still has flickering or cuts out at idle/low rpm. Any ideas ? 11. xx VDC out of the rectifier... goes up with rpm increase.
Hey mate loved the video and your bike is awesome! It's nearly identical to my build aside from the light bar but that's going to change after watching this! 🤣 Just wondering how the capacitor goes holding the power for extended periods of time and if it would be worth while putting a fuse in aswell?
The capacitor is useless for holding power after the engine is off. It's only purpose is to smooth the stator's power output which keeps the light from flickering.
Love Your Video's, I Am Always Learning New Stuff. If You Had A 3 D Printer You Could Have Made A Capacitor Holder Or A light Bar Holder. Great Video. Camera Girl Loves Pudding.My Wife Has Pants Like Camera Girl Also.
The 30w vs 6w bs is "incandescent equivalent power" vs led actual power. But yeah even then that's probably not accurate either, sellers tend to just throw whatever number they think will trick people into buying.
Do they make motorcycle 'generators' instead of alternators? Seems inefficient to make AC just to send it to a rectifier to make DC. Why not start with DC?
I was so curious about this I looked it up. Alternators have advantages, (they're cheaper, lighter, mechanically simpler and produce power across larger range of RPM) and converting their output to DC is trivial since the invention of silicon diodes.
LED bulbs typically produce 75-110 lumens per watt, which is about seven times more efficient than tungsten incandescent bulbs that only produce about 15 lumens per watt. A 7 watt LED bulb can be very bright. For example, a 60 watt incandescent bulb can produce 800 lumens of light, while an LED equivalent would produce the same brightness with only 15 watts. And now u know.
Sadly those amazon bars are a lot less bright than something made by even a cheap brand name like Alpena, but for this use case i'd say it's usable. Note to anybody else though do not use these for your car for fog lights. You might as well strap a flashlight to your bumper.
I"m simply flabergasted. But I think I know whats what.. Alternator to rectifier to capasitater to red wire to stater to battery .Right?? Oh , how does Jenny keep your tidy white TTs so damded clean?? I want to see a vid , in itself , on that.. I"m serious!!! After all, it is Jennies Garage.................
That “watt” joke was top tier dad joke.
loving the consistency lately! keep pushing yall
Agree 100%!
“Not a very healthy battery”
*battery is covered in moss*
😂 This channel reminds me a lot of my diy endeavors! 👍🏻
Jake’s a genius
You are very kind
Jake, for the advertised power rating on amazon, i found out that the power rating listed on many LEDs on the interweb, the power rating listed means that the LED can output a similar intensity light near to a incandescent 35W bulb. Doesn't mean that the LED it self is 35W. The LED power consumption is way less
You're correct, it's all about Lumens, but they are sometimes exaggerated
I'd consider adding a fuse as well Boss! Thanks for the awesome videos!
Light bar looks great and nice installation. The only extra thing I would do cosmetically is round off the corners on the front of the bracket.
Love the little Jenn jems like "i like pudding".
Videos like these are J.G doing the lords services.
You are very kind
Looks great! One tip: When you build your own brackets, always file a radius on each corner. Keeps you from getting your hand gashed when working on things in the future.
7:39 Normally there is an gasket between the motor and lid 🤘🏻 and then the water can’t get in there ❤
These electrical vids for lighting and charging are a great help for us who are more mechanical than electrical.
I have watched all of your vids over the years and love them all but hte electrical for putting an off road bike to road worthy and also vids like this one are great to watch and learn.
Camera girl is the best. Good catch!
How appropriate making brackets in March.
Making it look easy and very fun in the process.
Has Jake ever done stand-up comedy? If not, he should have a go at it. He cracks me up with his sense of humor. LOL
Woohoo! Another JG video!
Your videos are the best
agree completely
I never put a light bar on a dirt bike before but it's a great idea. Especially for going on sunset rides.
I had a Honda 250 growing up and would ride it through trails to my first job (a cart pusher at a grocery store). Sometimes I wouldn't make it home until it was dark out and it was so hard to see where I was going that I'd often be riding slower than I could run on my feet.
Keep that content coming! I love not having long "intermissions"!
Love it. If u use all caps your light will maybe stay on for 10 seconds. With a supercap maybe one or two minutes......
Nice job you guys
Nice work you two.
I need to, I want to, I must…. Give Jake a haircut. And don’t worry, I’m a barber.
He's like me...months between haircuts. I like to get my money's worth😎...and have the neighbors think I can afford a gardener (one neighbor thought I had hired one...it was just me with longer hair). 😂
Everybody’s a barber when they’re holding scissors
@@billbillinger2491 Funny that you bring up gardeners, I treat my hair like I treat my lawn, I wait until it's well overdue and then chop it as short as I can get away with.
Clean Crew Cut ✂️ 👌
Balding hairstyle, like grow all you can before center is completely gone 😢
Another well put together video (and your lovely assistant) over the years I've bought a lot of offroad lights. I will only buy spot beams with side shooters.Hobo Freight gets my nod for 3" Roadshock spots/sideshooters. Same for Light Bars, no combo beams/floods. Don't cut your hair it really bothers some people 😂
I had total faith in you Jake! Hope all is well with you and your family!
Maybe a tail light would be cool!
Love seeing regular uploads. Jake you're incredibly smart and talented with these motorcycles thanks for the videos. Always fun to watch
😂
I believe we could call a battery a home. Where as by comparison, a capacitor is emergency accommodation.👍😅😅
Love your videos! Mabey take the bike out and show us the light in action? 😊
Hell yeah brother, got my lightbar wired up and avoided the headache thanks to this video. Much appreciated
Great to hear, glad the video helped.
Nice vid, thanks a lot
Woo hoo nice one , great video... erm holding capacitor... be carefully they can hold a charge and are dangerous ... can kill ... dependant on farad capacity and voltage. Charge one up and careful discharge with insulated handled screwdriver ... you'll see why ...
They use capacitors in disposable cameras ... for the flash ... that's the whistle you hear when flash is getting ready !!
The thing about capacitors ,is unlike batteries... the charge they hold , gets released in one go . Read up on them ,so you can handle them safely... always use something ... other than yourself, to make sure they are discharged ,before touching them .
@@wayne7521In this case though, the capacitor is only being charged and discharged simultaneously (when the switch is on). They are used for smoothing the DC ripple when getting voltage from a rectifier in many cases.
@@Kappa-oj3sz true ,but should a person with lack if knowledge ,touch the pins accidently .... and the lights were turned out before the engine stopped ...
Then it's likely they would still hold a charge .. and it doesn't take a lot of current or / and voltage to stop a person's heart.
Apart from the current and voltage , a person may have unknown health issues... that contribute to electrocution been likely ...
You said cap is only used as a ballast to smooth out electric flow to light... but with a switch incorporated , dependant on where break is situated, the cap can still hold charge afterwards ...
Then there is chance of maintenance needed ... then it's best ve safe than sorry ...
Apart from this capacitors are a wonderful conception ... and they span back through history ... shame they are so many nay sayers ,thst cannot keep an open mind .
The world is magical ... just nit in the sense of Harry potter and wands etc
@@Kappa-oj3sz p.s. ,cannot recall less I watch vid .... but if switch is between light and cap ... then chance that cap can still hold charge ...like previously stated .
Yet If switch were placed between cap and rectifier ,then there'd be a chance that ,the light bar would drain the capacitor (cap)
By the way ,your statement is so untrue ... you may want to ask Jake ,I belive his name ... where the switch is incorporated in his design ...
To whether you may die or not ... pls don't be one of those ppl ,who touch a hot pipe and then go ooh that's hot ...
get a nice video and a good refresher on the sparky basics! 10/10 as always
Love it
Thanks, I may do this on my xr100.
ONE SMART DUDE! I would put a inline fuse just to be safe. Reminds me of my dad lol. Jake, you should open up a little motorcycle repair shop. I feel it would do you very good. Keep up the good work man. Showing love here from IL.
He has a repair shop.... teaching us how to work on our junk
Jake has a white shirt addiction like I do 😂 got my work shirts and my going to town white tee's 👌❤️
loving the frequent videos
I do enjoy your videos. You guys make it very fun.
Jake... Elephant pants?! ElePANTS?! How could you miss such a crucial dad joke opportunity?😂
Worked a treat.
Sorry to critique, Jake, but may I suggest you mount that rectifier upside down. I know the wires pass through a rubber grommet, but we all knew the "quality" of Jhinese jhunk components. Why take the gamble of moisture getting past that grommet and down into the case?
Also, do you have space to mount a second capacitor parallel with the first? That should increase your storage, for times when the motor is idling for awhile, and not providing significant charging.
I watched the preview (mouse hover) for this video and by chance saw 5:20. I love to watch your interactions. 5:20 schould be your thumbnail.
Fun video and crazy how the factory wired the harness wrong. Good find! Camera girl has to give Jake a haircut though!
Never comment on another man's hair... you wouldn't fit in with my riding group 😂
This is some seriously good DIY DC electrical work. Say that three times fast. 😂
YES! instantly ignored all my other subs to watch this lol.
wiring diagram of regulator/rectifier
Green: Ground
Red: 12v to charge battery
Yellow: AC volt from stator (all the unwrapped coils)
Pink: also AC volt from stator (single wrapped coil. This is probably ac volt headlights & AC CDI)
Unless the unit you got had specific wiring diagram
Noice! Keep up the good work.
Videos are awesome. Camera girl is 🔥❤
Great video as always!
Sweetness!! That's what I'm fixing to do is put on a light bar for my ltz 400 !! Which light bar are your using from Amazon?!
Check the AC voltage coming out of the alternator, you'll need around 28 V AC from the alternator to get 14 V DC once it's gone through the rectifier
Motorcycles don't charge at low revs they need get up to around quarter throttle or more.
Thought the title said "Lightbear" for a second. I was like, now you've got my attention! I've always needed a lightbear. 🤔😅
Those curls signify good times ahead for all!
keep it up.
If you hook about 4 caps in parallel, you'll get a bit more storage capacity that will allow the lights to remain bright for longer when the bike isn't revving.
I don’t think you need the battery or make the current DC, because on my bike (1982 Honda xr200r) the lights are on when the bike is also it runs AC current too the taillight and headlights, it’s all from the factory like that.
As to the rectifier/regulator, what's the voltage over the capacitor now (with a bit of revs on)?
let's start a go fund me for a haircut. love the vid- you guys are great.
You have nothing better to worry about than the length of someone's hair? smh
@speedfreak8200 do you have nothing better to worry about than what I'm worried about?
Love u guys and love your content as always. Jake - any plans for a haircut? Perhaps a buzz cut?
Good video. Thanks
Such madness!
You can do that even cheaper, you only need a single diode (preferably a so-called "power diode" which can handle a few amps) coming off the alternator and going to the capacitor, a lot of small engine products with e-start often use this simple setup (minus the capacitor) to charge up the battery as it runs, though a full-bridge rectifier, which is what's hiding inside that mystery black heatsinked box, does extract more power, and that's just as easy to make very affordbaly as it uses 4x diodes... :)
👍👍👍
In this case, that capacitor acted like a smoothing cap, gives a smooth output from the inconsistent input 👌
Ground is a ground is a ground. Basically making it 0. I don’t see anything wrong with putting dc to the frame but dope video! 🫡
Good choice in capacitor size👍 If you need to ask any questions about electronics, feel free to ask me (one of my careers was as an electronics engineering technologist) and follow my channel! I was also the head mechanic (as well as manager/benefactor) of my son's racing venture. He was a pro level off road racer in Canada. So, I know bikes too.
Could the W's be per LED (6x6=36)?
That could be. I was thinking maybe 'equivalent to a 30W incandescent bulb'.
WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Set mine up exactly as yours. Still has flickering or cuts out at idle/low rpm. Any ideas ? 11. xx VDC out of the rectifier... goes up with rpm increase.
Hey mate loved the video and your bike is awesome! It's nearly identical to my build aside from the light bar but that's going to change after watching this! 🤣
Just wondering how the capacitor goes holding the power for extended periods of time and if it would be worth while putting a fuse in aswell?
The capacitor is useless for holding power after the engine is off. It's only purpose is to smooth the stator's power output which keeps the light from flickering.
@jenniesgarage how does it go when you're running the light bar for extended periods of time? Like if you were on a night ride for example
Do you think the same parts would work on a 05 Kawasaki KLX110
6 watts per led 5*6=30
Love Your Video's, I Am Always Learning New Stuff. If You Had A 3 D Printer You Could Have Made A Capacitor Holder Or A light Bar Holder. Great Video. Camera Girl Loves Pudding.My Wife Has Pants Like Camera Girl Also.
The 30w vs 6w bs is "incandescent equivalent power" vs led actual power. But yeah even then that's probably not accurate either, sellers tend to just throw whatever number they think will trick people into buying.
GIVE IT THE BEANS 😂
Do you have the link for the lighting coil?
I need those forks!
👍
I know someone else with the same pants, but they are purple and silver.
👌🏽😎👍🏼
Pink wire from rectifier...to Ground ??? First time seeing that.
Do they make motorcycle 'generators' instead of alternators? Seems inefficient to make AC just to send it to a rectifier to make DC. Why not start with DC?
I was so curious about this I looked it up. Alternators have advantages, (they're cheaper, lighter, mechanically simpler and produce power across larger range of RPM) and converting their output to DC is trivial since the invention of silicon diodes.
Your contribution rocks!
top work!
Jake’s young George Washington hair.
Links for the rectifier capacitor and stator? Lol plz 😂
LED bulbs typically produce 75-110 lumens per watt, which is about seven times more efficient than tungsten incandescent bulbs that only produce about 15 lumens per watt. A 7 watt LED bulb can be very bright. For example, a 60 watt incandescent bulb can produce 800 lumens of light, while an LED equivalent would produce the same brightness with only 15 watts. And now u know.
You could have made a rectifier out of LEDS and got two birds stoned at once.
Show it at night!
Sadly those amazon bars are a lot less bright than something made by even a cheap brand name like Alpena, but for this use case i'd say it's usable. Note to anybody else though do not use these for your car for fog lights. You might as well strap a flashlight to your bumper.
u should look for a 4in light bar. they’re half the length and still bright
The reason I get the 7 inch is I thought it would fit the best in that space. Thanks for the comment!
Links?
Batteries not included.. 😮 A couple of 18650 batteries.
You need a small battery or an Electrolytic capacitor. Make your own battery out of Electrolytic capacitors.
I like pudding 😂
Now I want pudding
I think we needed a night ride demonstration to finish off the video
They said that!!?! To youu!?!?
I"m simply flabergasted. But I think I know whats what.. Alternator to rectifier to capasitater to red wire to stater to battery .Right?? Oh , how does Jenny keep your tidy white TTs so damded clean?? I want to see a vid , in itself , on that.. I"m serious!!! After all, it is Jennies Garage.................
$10 light…… takes a couple $100’s in tools and parts. Makes garage sence
So if you figured out a way not to get a haircut, not to get a job?😂😂😂
Guessing it's 6W per light and with 5 lights .... Voila we have 30W of light.
Those are definitely not 6w LEDs.