Motorcycle Thief vs. Bike Locks - Which is Best?
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Motorcycle locks promise a lot but do they actually deliver? Our in-house motorcycle thief goes all out using lock picks, snips, bolt cutters and angle grinders in a bid to nick the precious YZ50. Here’s what happened…
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He used the words “nearly unpicksble without specialized tools” so he didn’t inadvertently summon the Lockpicking Lawyer by saying unpickable lock
This video is an 8:40 minutes advertisment
@@AgustinBernardo Not. It says nowhere that it is sponsored plus he would have had to tell us. He is just a legitimate biker wanting everyone to understand the safest choice and why.
@@tgnuma2 it didn't appear to be like that. There are ways to cover up ads that appears to be video reviews. It happens all the time, you know, the so called "Publitubers"
@@AgustinBernardo So your argument here is that after all of those expensive solutions that he could have gotten sponsorship from he instead told us to get some hella bad ass chain and call it a day? Who is funding this covert advert campaign? Big chain groups?
@@pramienjager2103 it's not something difficult, a lot of Publitubers accept cheap trash for free or some "good products" and they analyze them with a biased conclusion.
People wouldn’t believe that a thief could get away with several minutes of angle grinding in broad daylight, but those people haven’t seen videos from London.
My GFs bike just got stolen recently from a bike locker below an apartment complex that is patrolled at night. I guess several minutes of power tools noises aren't something that concerns "security" personnel.
@@aluisious Maybe a small donation to look the other way?
Or New York City or Washington D.C. in the past decade. Degeneracy.
never seen it in person, but ive always thought to shout 'get the fuck away from my bike asshole' as gruffly as possible to see what happens if i do...
@@f_r_e_d Definitely. Even a lazy security guard would hear an angle grinder vs chain, 100%. Only possibility, they were in on it.
god forbid a theif gets a hold of the "pick that bosnian bill and I made"
dont get the reference lol
@@Ahmad-qx6pg is a lock picking lawyer reference, every time he pulls out a disc detainer lock he gets out the "lock that bosnian bill and I made". ruclips.net/video/DuZWhRaLzhk/видео.html
O shit I just realized that lockpick is already launched for sale
Then we all screwed man , that disk picker is all that’s keeping the worlds secrets closed.
they sell it for $45....welp gg so much for people who don't have a garage to keep their bikes in.
When you buy an insanely strong lock system but then the thief breaks the pole your bike is tied to...
well, ya know, as they say "any security system is only as strong as its weakest link"
Yep, only useful if they've installed thick steal grounded mounts, but most places use hollow aluminum. Weaker than a damn cable lock, practically.
With bicycles sometimes the thiefs go angry and cut your frame instead of the lock just to fuck you up hahaha
@@twhis9843 have you tried GPS tracking on your bike? Soon I'm off to my bike course, and wanted to buy a Z650 Kawasaki from a dealership as a 1st bike, as I live in apartment complex I have to leave it downstairs. SO I was thinking about kryptonite chain + GPS tracking module underneath a seat.
@@Seredinh under the seat is the first place they will look for a tracking device if they know what they are doing. If they had enough time they would find it anyway but put it somewhere a bit more conspicuous
Ah i see you too have been watching unhealthy amounts of LockPickingLawyer
Don't we all?
And from watching him we should all know never to use a padlock, because all that takes to pop is 2 wrenches
yup, gulty of charge
BosnianBill is the best. His skills and explanations are top flight. Next thing you know you've been enjoying watching someone pick locks for an hour.
he forgot the hydraulic cutter, that is a beast
No word of a lie, my friend has a Honda Grom, and the kryptonite chain, Ive asked him why he doesnt keep his bike in a shed or house, why does he keep it in his garden, he showed me the lock and said nobody will be able to steal it. His face when i picked up the bike and started carrying it.
General you chain both wheels down to something solid, like your house or concrete driveway. Then you have to pick or cut 2 chains, remove both wheels or carry away 20 tonn of concrete. It's not perfect but certainly a deterant. It's impractical to do when your at the shops so that would be the best way to steal it.
You lifted 230+ lbs and casually started carrying it?
@@danz7462 I've done it, lots of good grab points on bikes so a good squat and hug will have that thing down the street in a matter of minutes lol
A good rope also makes a grom into an uncomfortable backpack
@@veneratedmortal4369 Eh, I would chain it to the fork stem rather than the wheels. You'd need a longer chain or a closer anchor to park to, but no option to bypass the chain
@@danz7462 ofcx its only 100 kg aprox .. not that hard
FortNine themes are always so fun to see. Every video is just so damn creative.
The best combination is to have a heavy chain which locks a wheel to a firm point and an alarmed disk-block on the other wheel.
So both wheels are blocked, the bike can't be lifted on a van and as soon as a thief tries to cut anything, that alarm is going to set off.
Basically what I do, plus lock the handlebars. It would take an enormous amount of effort to get the bike, and security patrols where I park for work would likely notice all the commotion from the alarm and the grinder and the theif would just give up completely.
That is always my fear. Strong guys or a hoist that just pick it up and put it on a truck.
The best combination is to remember you have insurance and don't bother with locks
That is how I have mine setup, chained to the post on my carport.
have you ever heard about insurance being increased as soon as you make claim? @@cosmic_gate476
"is as hopeless as the leafs vs zamboni drivers" slayed me lolol
Vinny G canes fan here. Great night.
can you explain for us non canadian people?
mse A short while back, the Toronto Maple Leafs (NHL team, Leafs for short) lost to the Carolina Hurricanes. The Hurricanes ran out of regular goalies in the middle of the game due to injuries. This required an "emergency goalie" to be put in. The designated emergency goalie was the zamboni driver for the Leafs arena, as he had some goalie experience. The zamboni driver was able to keep the Hurricanes in the lead and win the game against the Leafs.
Also, smack talking the Leafs is a bit of a national pass time :)
@@cdddtdmd that's actually funny as hell didn't know the story behind it but now I do an holy hell that's a good one.
This explains why I saw Ryan grind away my bike lock this morning
I don't know shit about motorcycles. But goddamn I'm glad I found this channel
Glad you found the angle grinder, too, eh? :-)
"As hopeless as the Leafs against a Zamboni driver." As a Leafs fan I'm just gonna sit here and die inside a little bit.
Well he IS from Montreal....
As I just learned today, also remember that if you have a chain with a fiber covering, make sure you do not loop it around any part of the exhaust if you are then going to run the motorcycle for troubleshooting. Mine started smoking very bad, and a large chunk of the coating melted onto the exhaust. Luckily the chain itself wasn't hurt at all of course, and the remnants of the coating did very quickly melt off of the pipe. Still scary when I first saw the smoke billowing, though.
I think what I like most is the effort that goes into each episode. They are all so well researched and thought out - Ryan Kluftinger is not lazy! The excellent script is just the beginning.
LPL fans unite.
"Binding on 1......"
*Lock makers scream in terror*
Damn I was late. :-)
"Click out of two...."
*Lock makers start to lose their mind*
@@destino009 you forgot "nothing on 3" bro
In London (UK) if they want it, they’ll have it. If I absolutely have to park it out of my sight, it’s getting the alarmed disc lock + f*** off chain + cover. Every time. Make ‘em work for it. Park it next to other bikes so your alarmed, disc locked, covered and chained bike becomes the least attractive option.
Could you do a video on other "deterrents" like disc brake locks and grip locks? That would be very helpful. Keep up the good work and your awesome sense of humor!
I use one lock if it's in my closed parking space.
If I leave it in the street I use one disk lock on the front, one padlock (beefy) on the rear disk AND an alarm system that screams, gives me a notification with GPS position and turns off the motorcycle.
I think I'm good. Of course, it can be stolen, but it's MUCH easier to steal my neighbors ride.
Can u provide more info on the gps and turning off the bike installment?
Good day! May I know what kind of GPS with disabling mechanism for alarm system you use?
@@BubblyBessie its something local to where i live. It depens on where you live
I feel like you and your neighbor are about to have an arms race for security lol
@@mj6463 hahaha
“Cuts faster than Danny DeVito at basketball tryouts” 😂
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Tyrone Bogues would like to have a word...
With recent increased theft in my area, I decided to up my security last weekend.. I went from using a single U lock (front wheel to bike rack), to a heavier U lock in that position. I now put the second U lock through the front wheel and forks, along with a heavy cable through the fork lock and bike rack.
This means a smart theif would have to get through two heavy U locks.. if one only managed to get through the main one (which is rather awkward to reach) and the cable, they'd be left with a bike that cannot roll (steering locked as well). Ontop of the annoying mix of locks, I've also installed an alarm which is sure to start chirping as soon as someone tries to mess with it. When you consider that all of this is protecting a rebel250, I think most will move on to an easier and more valuable target.
My friends bike got stolen, usually what happens is that they cut the lock and start the bike. Thus, after experiencing this, I started putting steel u-locks in the chain of my bike. That way, even if he starts the bike, the small lock will jam the transmission. Ofcourse, the bike would need a service and a hefty fees but a bike is better than having no bike.
Plus points if you manage to entangle the lock using a chain between the perforated disk breaks and the chain
@@mdahsenmirza2536 I’d stick a u lock through the rear wheel before I started locking it to the rack (technically I’m not supposed to do that in my building).. anyway, I’d lock the steering! Set the alarm and have that ulock in the rear. I started locking it to the rack after I was woken up by my alarm around 4am one morning. I ran out to my balcony in time to see to guys running away.. one into a car, the other into a uhaul. This was clearly a planned operation.. I called the cops and a couple local uhaul dealers with as much info as possible in hopes of busting these scumfucks.
I’ve had a handful of scooters and mopeds stolen over the years.. I also caught a couple kids trying to steal my neighbors r6 a while back… that’s a whole neither story but if anything, I learned that the cops couldn’t care less. Highlight of the story is that I ran out and tried to snap a pic of the kids.. couldn’t find em but they were leaving on another clearly stolen bike as I got back to my lot. Called the cops. 5 mins later, I’m talking to them on the side of the road r right as I’m describing them, they rolled right by us. I pointed them out and the cops just looked at one another for a couple seconds before one said “we don’t chase fast bikes.. could be dangerous.. maybe someone else will get em”… wtf? That’s someone’s bike rolling away! If nothing else, it was plateless and the riders had zero required gear. It was also around 430am, absolutely no traffic, and I was talking to four officers in two cars. They couldn’t have been more useless.
The bike not being able to roll is not that big of a deal.
Park a van next to it, pick up the bike with two people an put it in the van.
(or drag it in the van if it is to heavy to pick up)
@@Jehty_ moral of the story, if someone wants your shit they are going to take it
The best anti-thief device I use for my bike is I smear poo all over it. It really works.
This guy must be popular with the ladies...
I attach my bike to a tree and no one ever steals it.
Sounds like he has reached the bottom with thieves😒
I knew a guy who chained his bike to a small tree.. he returned to a stump and no bike.
They even stolen.tree? Thats another level of greed m8 😂😂
you dont have to run faster than the bear
you just have to run faster than your friends
Benjamin Buljevic As a longtime smoker, this has often kept me awake nights...😏
@@susanmaggiora4800 The alternative version of the saying offers a solution.
When in the company of a dwarf, and confronted by a hungry dragon, remember you don't have to outrun the dragon. Only the dwarf.
So you need to find a dwarf.
Or just park next to more valuable bikes
quackerzdb probably better secured than mine, so I’ll just drag the thief’s attention to the easiest one 😂
quackerzdb work fine but the way a thief thinks isn’t necessarily in terms of value of a motorcycle. It’s risk vs reward. The less risk the greater the reward generally speaking. If you’ve got your 2020 Harley bolted to the ground with 50 chains it’s less likely to be stolen than the ninja 250 next to it with the key hanging from the ignition. The more complicated you make it the better off you are usually
Here in the UK bike theft is an epidemic. Not helped by what must be 90 per cent of bikes sitting there without a single lock. You will never beat a determined well-equipped thief, but the idea is to make it as difficult and time-consuming as possible so hopefully they think 'stuff this' and move on to an easier target. And there are plenty around.
A good video that does mention the two most common ways to bypass almost any locks with minimal resistance and no big or heavy tools.
The first way is to carry the motorbike to a truck or a van. Simple and efficient method if there is no anchoring or a heavy duty hardened chain to a heavy unbreakable steady object. Traffic signs is nothing of the above...
The other way thefs use is cold spray and brute force shortly after. Even the toughest steel becomes fragile in very cold temperatures. Therefore with a hammer and some penetration tool threads may break the moving parts of lock cylinder in pieces.
Few manufacturers have in mind this method because it is almost impossible to avoid. As there is a key, there is a way to spray a lock. Therefore there some kind of taboo about this method and the big brands do not talk about it.
A countermeasure is to have a lock design that even if the cylinder is destroyed or bend to pieces to prevent the lock to be opened. But this is really difficult or expensive or really heavy to be made...
Therefore you find almost no company claims about resistance to cold spray.
Actually I know only one less known Spanish company with some of its locks having the French standard SRA and cold spray resistance...
The best method to protect your bike is to hide it and have it secured in private parking.l well locked with hardened heavy chain and a good disk lock with loud alarm. Even better if there is a GPS antitheft device. Although if you have some expensive bike and the thief targeted yours instead of others less secured in the streets, the only thing you can do is to buy time: Time the thief has to spend therefore a bigger risk for him to be arrested.
You may find more about security standards here:
www motorbike-security co uk /general-information
Depending on the bike and brake disc a puck lock would work great. Most can be keyed to include anti-pick pins, offer some of the best protection against grinding/cutoff discs, and without chain are pretty compact. They are what we used to secure our vans when I worked as a locksmith a while back.
And best thing ever, a disk lock with an alarm. Pretty damn hard to defeat without waking up everyone.
@@leolego2 just cut the disc. Don't worry about the alarm because unless the owner is nearby, noone will give a crap about it.
Should’ve included some of those locks that go around the brake and clutch lever, also brake disc locks
The ones that no round the brake lever are useless either undo the bleed nipple or cut the brake line.
@@Terjesel was going to say as well that with the brakes on they can use the wheels to lift the bike away.
I use a lever lock and disc lock along with a heavy duty chain connected to a steel fence post. They going to have to work and make a lot of noise to get my bike.
@@themadburleigh Not just that, but they're almost universally cheap crap, that can be quickly forced open, and they don't have alarms. They also almost universally use tubular locks, which are some of the worst locks out there, and can be picked with a bic pen. They're entirely for show, and to make the seller a quick buck.
@@Vcen7 they are deterrents to make it more difficult and time consuming to steal the bike. you should not rely solely on a handle bar lock, but it never hurts to add time and another level of security a thief has to deal with.
What I'm getting here is that the best theft security is a GPS tracker hidden in the chassis and then a really good insurance policy.
and a bat if you are fortunate to catch them
The best security is the thing you use.
You could go out and buy an almax big boy chain, but if its sitting at home in your garage when you're bike gets nicked from the shops, it's 0% effective.
If your bike has any lock on it at all, that in itself is a deterrent. If it's causing a thief to use a noisy tool, again that deters some and stands a chance of alerting you.
What's the point of the GPS if you have good insurance?
Isn't the point of good insurance that they pay if your bike gets stolen? So what's the GPS for?
@@Jehty_ never understood this either. If my bike gets nicked I'd rather a new one. Than track it down and be left with something with unknown damage to have to repair and fix.
@@Jehty_ Theoretically the police could track down the bike and recover it for you without you needing to go through the insurance company in the first place.
I love the amount of homework you did. The nutsplitter-exploit gave everything away.
how Kryptonite didnt pay you for this is mind boggling you guys just sold me on it and i imagine a lot more people on getting one
@Wuanslm my Felt mountain bike 2016 has use Kryptonite I got from Walmart! 👍😂why they allowed themselves to be caught with Good quality equipment is beyond me 😀. They have never ever carried this lock I'm still using to this horrible year 2020!👍😎🔐
@Wuanslm bro, it can be nuked by a bomb. That doesn't make it useless. Thieves in my area won't be walking around with a huge f*cking sledgehammer and an anvil to strike it against like Bennetts Bikes did, and he even claimed that it's very noise to use an angle grinder. Too much problem when there are much better targets.
Easily the best Kyrptonite ad I've ever seen.
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I can't believe how happy it makes me to see a new release from you guys, cheers!
Just say no. Now they cant legally take it
What about U locks?
It's like the chains, but not as flexible. Depends really on the type of lock available. If it's a traditional tumble lock, it's pickable by the video's standards.
he recommended the oxford boss lock in the 2017 version of this video, so I assume he thinks its somewhat useful.
@@Kikker861 i have a 12 mm chain and a 65 mm padlock that seems to have a 11 mm shackle. know if i should buy a 12 mm kryptonite keeper 785 instead? which would require a thief more time?
Part of what makes the chain king is it's tendency to want to dance around while being cut with a grinder. A U-lock is easier to stabilize and therefore easier to cut.
@@fallback8314
How about the weight of your locks?
30s to the intro and I'm dying already. Quality content.
“Leafs versus Zamboni Drivers.... I got that joke. Go, Leafs, Go!! Ha haha ha Thanks for the levity. Also “Danny DeVito cut from Basketball Practice” ha ha ha ha. All the Best!!
As always, a great video, and I loved your dig about the Leafs vs Zamboni drivers. Well played!
The best anti-theft device is an old dusty cover with "Honda" written on it.
*Harley
I had my goldwing parked on the street WITH THE KEY IN THE IGNITION all summer and nobody touched it, my neighbour had a Harley locked up in his garage, got stolen TWICE
Hilarious
@@yvescorbin buy a motorcycle noone wants to steal
@@yvescorbin statisticly there are less Harleys stolen then any of the big 4 brands while Harleys make up the large majority of bikes. Anecdotes don't matter
5:01 "...cut faster than Danny DeVito at basketball tryouts" I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything at that time, because I would have sprayed out of my nose.
I did,, 😁
As always a great video! Living in London none of the items listed is an option. Most crooks carry battery-operated angle grinders and the Almax extreme is your only real option (in my opinion).
How thick is that chain?
@@GeordiLaForgery 22mm!
www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=64&product_id=63
Should have kept your guns bro
@@tjdier1650 woah 22mm, I got 13mm at home and I consider it too heavy to take with me.
Argos do a fairly cheap one and glad i went big and heavy then cheaped out
00:27 they actually found a building that looks like the logo😂10/10 for effort on that scene
Just heard the revzilla interview, it was great to hear how you came up. Btw i been spending way to much at fortnine cause of you lol hope you’re getting a cut.
Thanks for the comment, just looked it up myself. Interesting stuff!
High quality production level show here. Love it.
I was unfortunetly the victim of the battery powered grinder when I was 15 and I just got my first moped Piaggio Typhoon 50cc only a cupple of months after I got it.
And the messed up part was that it was at school during the day and was in clear line of sight in all directions and deffinetly within earshot of anyone outside the building, so alot of people saw/heard the thief grinding away and didn't tell anyone.
And I know it was a grinder because it had burnmarks on the chain...
I still remember the lisence plate number 12 years later :,(
Hydraulic rebar cutters are compact and very effective at cutting through chains. The Lock Picking Lawyer did a series of videos on this.
it's like you read my mind years before I had the question
No wait .. mission isnt completed yet ! We still want to know the best lock ever ! For those who dont have a garage !
A 16mm or larger diameter strengthened chain (Pragmasis and Almax are the leading two) with round profile links (not square or hex), with a Squire SS65CS or Abloy PL362 padlock. This is the single toughest setup against all types of attack combined. It's horribly heavy, though. I tried riding around with my 1.5m 16mm setup. In the top box, it's so heavy it screws up the bike's balance. In a backpack, it's dangerously destabilising when you lean over. Slung over your shoulder, it absolutely destroys your collar bone. It's a fixed-location setup only!
@@boiledelephant this. I AVE a 19mm Almax, fucking beast of a chain. Doesn't leave my street though, even just lifting it through the wheel can be a workout.
just rent a garage slot.Sleeping peacefully at night is what u must be aiming for
@@boiledelephant I have the 20mm Almax chain, with the abloy362 as well, been trying to find out the average time for grinders to cut through those beasts, so I know how much time I have to get ready before I beat some ass
Should be allowed to shoot thieves, although I imagine most of us wouldn't fancy becoming killers; but, what else to do? I always fear that day, having to destroy someone's life - however you can bet your bottom dollar that I won't let anyone ruin mine.
His show is like top gear/grand tour very educational, very entertaining, a must watch
Nicely made video, but no mention of U-locks, arguably the strongest locks available
Well, you don't need to hang from the bolt cutters, just putting one end on the ground and leaning against the other cuts almost anything. That's why you need to have the chain as high off the ground as possible, to make it hard to use that kind of leverage.
The cable locks are okay for chaining stuff (helmet etc) to your bike.
The only thing I learned is that no matter what lock,if a thief really wants to steal something they'll get it.
That parting shot is classic! Just brilliant!
This is the best RUclips video I have watched in a long time, love it man.
ruclips.net/video/YKO1yudGVNg/видео.html
Had my bike stolen a few weeks ago, this came out right on time since it's back
KZA did they strip your bike for parts?
Police recovered my $18000 cbr after 10 months
Cool fact: some dude tested the strongest possible chain to use for motorcycles, the conclusion was to use one of them tire chains, that heavy haulers use when driving through ice and snow. Another great benefit is that in a very short time you will develop some really beefy shoulders while caring it in your backpack. So anyways the guy failed to cut through it no matter what tools he used
Kryptonite locks are amazing quality! I have a u-lock from my old bike, some guy grinded like a 1mm gash in it, gave up & i got to keep my stuff... :p
which version do you have?
@@fallback8314 the yellow kryptonite superman new york lock
@@LightsOut276 i'm new to bikes, this is what was recommended to me, is it any good? should i return it?
imgur.com/a/XNx7055
@@fallback8314 it doesn't look like a bad choice, maybe you should keep it.
@@LightsOut276 yea, hard to find people who actually knock it i don't know why so i think i'll keep it
The name, the face, first impressions arent always right. Your THE best motorcycle content creator and honestly in my book in my top 3 channels in all of RUclips.. btw the second video I watched had Geoffrey in it . I spit my drink up ...
This is the fuc... best RUclips Channel! Every Episode is like Cinema!!! Love it ❤️
I had a kryptonite lock and the part where the chain hits the piece that goes into the lock, that little pin in the middle (you can see it at 5:38), popped out making the whole thing useless. I got a season out of it but I had to garbage the lock.
If you test them again, try breaking that little pin instead of going through the actual chain.
I use the Evolution 4 chain lock and it seems that the way they fixed that issue is by making an actual chain link go into the lock. That last chain link is reinforced too.
I've had my eye on a pannigale across the street for a while. Thankyou
If you ca not even spell the model name right your thievery is unworthy! East European heritage?
@@planpitz4190 since when spelling has any think to do with a skill ?:)))
Not really funny but allowable.
I park mine on a landmine...
Literally the only lock video I watched to the end because I enjoyed it
Hiplock d1000 is expensive but actually resists grinding a lot !! .. use it qith a chain and you have double security .. use an extra alarm disclock (a non casted one ) and a cover and you are pretty pretty save ! ..
I had my bike locked to pole when I was in Safeway. Used a $17 kryptonite chain lock from Walmart.
Came out and all that was left was a cut piece of chain link.⛓️😣
You get what you pay for.
Excellent! Any thought on options to lock gear(helmets and jackets) on the bike while you go into a restaurant or on a hike?
Leave a note with your gear.. FYI. I've got headlice and I'm covid positive. Do you feel lucky, Punk.. Well do ya. 😁
Personally, I have a U-lock that I run through the jacket sleeve then run the sleeve around the helmet's chin bar and secure both to the back bars. Not fool-proof, but it prevents thefts of opportunity.
Also been looking at personalizing my white jacket to be a real obnoxious neon design. Better visibility, style, and harder to fence.
@@fallingpetunias9046 in brazil they'd steal your visor
"5:04 Cut faster than Danny DeVito in basketball trails" 😅😂😂😂😂😂
The tool to pick disc detaining locks can be freely had on Amazon and the like, I taught myself lock picking while on furlough during Covid. The really scary one is the cylinder / castle lock - my 'high security' U-lock was beaten in about 20 seconds with the right tool, even in my unpracticed hands.
The best security device is a bike no-one wants to steal!
never has someone earned my subscribe with a single video, but this... does put a smile on my face
This channel is the highest quality channel out there...good job
Around here, motorcycle-oriented insurance companies consider any flexible lock useless, because levers are apparentlu very efficient against them.
U2 has a song for your videos
Magnificent.
I use a brake lock with a disc tumbler lock and a 110 cb alarm. Doesn't prevent carrying the bike away but draws quite some attraction when you try to move it.
This is what I would do:
A) I would make sure that the bike is stolen, locking it so that it's easy to se that it's stolen.
B) Buy a electric scriber.
C) Scribe on the inside of the rims and other parts of the cycle with this number : US//911// (file number from the last case or cases you might have).
By doing so the thief will be caught whenever the person wants to put it into the buy/sell-pile.
4:00 "This is the LockPingLawyer and today we have this tool made by BosnianBill and I...."
its not bosnianbill btw, its buffalobill
@@MinsterRogers Not if you're into lockpicking.
@@Hawk1966 his name is buffalobill you idiot. its the guy from the silence of the lambs
I wonder how brake disc locks would resist “Ryan Bond”.
Some people claim that you can just unbolt the front brake disc and cable tie it out of the way of the wheel, against the shock, and then wheel or ride the bike away. Not sure how true that is, but it sounds plausible. I still use a disc lock around town, though, because who tf is going to carry keys and wrenches and unbolt a disc in plain sight? It just seems unlikely to me, unless the bike is really valuable (I certainly wouldn't trust a big sports tourer to just a disc lock).
watch the lockpicking lawyer, anything can be picked
ruclips.net/video/V7itt-xoukE/видео.html There you go, about a minute
@@folkmarcmetal LPL isn't really a good example of the average thief tho, a thief will have a much harder time of stuff like disk detainers. That is if they can pick it at all.
In the UK the battery grinder carrying scumbags just cut a slot out of the brake disc that contains the disc lock 🤷♂️
I am an (older) electronics designer. I really don't care how dirty my bike looks - - most thieves do.
I also use RFID and simple electronics to stop thieves. All my plastic covered chains have a wire threaded under the plastic and terminated on banana plugs.
CAST IRON drain grills are your friend, thread your chain through the grill, around the motorcycle frame (anything with a frame under it) and lock it (good quality). Plug the banana lugs into sockets under the bike - this requires the lock to under the machine. Pull out a banana plug and the alarm goes off.
I like using 2-3 chains. The more the better. And the best chain is stainless - selectable sizes - but buy a lock that equals chain strength.
RFID works like a pass card. I wear my card lock end of the RFID on my clothing, NEVER ON A KEYCHAIN, the sensor is under the fancy plastic covers. If I am not within a couple of feet, the motorbike won't start.
I also use an ignition suppressor (stop starter) which is activated by a secret touch point (screw head) and permits the bike engine to start.
After 10 years no one has stolen, even wheeled my machine away.
For anyone wondering about the song it's Strict Believer · Elliot Holmes.
Stealing bikes is rife here in London...most of the gangs of youths who do the stealing use battery powered angle grinders with friends who have bottles of battery acid in case anyone tries to interfere, and yes they will use it...nice.
Holly shit
I heard about this huge problems in London, II have big eyes. And the police is running after the queen with horses trying to catch her...
Whats the trend with that? Is it on decline, still growing?
@Justin Voluck Why so they could be shot at when someone is stealing their bike?
I guess people should be carrying pistols then. Thieves are losers, and they should know their place: hide and steal, else run. They dare not hurl battery acid at people unless they want to end up crippled or dead themselves. Maybe, few isolated incidents for once, but sends the message. Unless, law enforcement is cautious in the first place anyways.
Hey Ryan, I love the content and I love how educational your videos are!
Could you make a video on the best looking, and safest casual/style gear?
Gear for those of us who want to ride safe, but not look like a traffic cone or motoGP rider.
I actually found a few cool items like the slim black reflective strap vest I wear at night and I absolutely love it because it glows like a Christmas tree, and I can just take it off and throw it in my back pocket when I get where I'm going. (Link below.)
I also found some 3M black reflective pinstripe tape that I put all over my bike, so when light hits it, it looks like a tron cycle. I also put it on my helmet and that black vest came as a 2 pack so I cut up the second one and stitched the cool grey reflective pieces to my riding bag on the front and straps.
To the naked eye I look like a casual rider in black jeans, black sneakers, a grey leather jacket, a black helmet, riding a grey and black shadow camo bike... an absolute death wish on wheels.
But at night, under a headlight I look like a fireworks display, an EDM festival, or a light cycle with a sparkly ghost riding it. It's all stunningly effective, but I had to pretty much do it all myself after weeks of research and testing. Asking my sister to ride behind me and give notes, or swapping bikes and gear and seeing how bright she is. There isn't much out there for casual safety minded folk and I think we should "shed some light" on the good things out there to keep those fashion fools from falling off the wrong side of the fence they're sitting on because they don't want to look like a crossing guard on a rolling roadworks sign.
Even if Ryan never leads this or takes my advice (I'll keep trying.) Hopefully this comment can help a few people. Links+Tips below.
Reflective Vests: This type are durable, and stretchy and can be tightened down. They work best under 50mph.
www.amazon.com/dp/B082MKCS54/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_AV6zEbJN6KN5F
3M Reflective Pinstripe: Seems a tad pricey, but the 50ft roll goes a long way. A few inches here and there make a big difference and the real 3M reflects very brightly considering it's black. There is a protective film on the tape for some reason, and it works much better after removing that layer. It took me way too long to figure that out.. lol www.amazon.com/dp/B0010AUXPQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_x56zEb4CKF8QS
You can also buy that 3M reflective vinyl in sheets and cut out custom logos, symbols, or words and put them on your bike or gear. I put a reflective Mandalorian skull on my bike and it's invisible during the day, and glows at night. Cool stuff.
Reflective Ribbon: This is a cool stripe pattern black and grey reflective ribbon my sister sewed down the sides of her riding jeans and I threw a bit on one of my bags. It looks awesome and glows great! Why aren't brands using this stuff!? Cmon! It's so simple! My sister took 3 hours to set up my sewing machine, and she managed to make it look amazing first try, in 20mins. www.amazon.com/dp/B078WXG6CW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_E96zEbEY0QASE
I hope this helps. Feel free to add any tips or links in replys, and we can try to help as many people as possible!
I'll keep bugging RyanF9 with this comment until he responds ;p haha Let's get his attention!
Thank you for taking the time to type this up ☺️
I find it incredibly hard to believe that it took 4 mins to get though that chain
It took us five seconds...
‘Thief’ Must have been having a bad day at work. A half decent grinder goes through this in seconds as the Bennett’s Bike Social guys say - best watch their video. Kryptonite it’s still better than nothing and of course could be enough to pursuade the prospective thieving wrongdoer to look elsewhere - it’s always a trade off between portability and ultimate security. But 4 minutes plus !!?? Still a Good vid delivered entertainingly.
@@adamfranklin1887 I wonder where the line between entertainment and social responsibility lies...
@@bennettsbikesocial I have literally just watched your video. It was super helpful and reliable.
@@aletheamcminn4072 Thanks! All the best, John
Where I live a battery angle grinder will eliminate whatever lock you put on the bike in short notice. None of the locks prevent theft. They just increase your chances of survival long enough(or not because it takes 10 seconds to get through most locks with an angle grinder) for you to come back to your bike. And for this privilege your bicycle is weighed down by a ton of extra weight in locks you have to lug around.
Very good vid. I have a 10mm chain, disc lock, and I'm an engineer by trade so I built my own bike locker. 25x3 box section frame, with centre braces, covered in corrugated steel. The front and back are 3mm 316 stainless steel, the door has 2 heavy duty padlocks, boxed. Oh and a zip tie on the brake lever....you never know lol. Away from home its always near me. No ones having my Busa.
Me: alright I've watched Ryan and the tips to secure my bike
Thief: "This is The Lockpicking Lawyer..."
Farewell bike
The presentation is phenomenal. I’m gonna go buy the chain for my gs750 that’s probably too heavy to steal anyways
The intro of this video is so good.
lol, that ending. Tho my buell was stolen similarly, just thrown into a van. oh, now im sad
Disc locks: A tool that is now available for roughly $60CAD via Sparrows, but still very specialized.
Bolt cutters vs. thick metal chain w/ a good Disc lock, with non-standard master disc and false gates would be ideal.
The grinder/cutting disc require a more exotic solution if you want to negate it completely. Specialty ceramics that collapse in on high-friction surfaces to bind and lock the disc, or something with an aluminum coat or core that loves to gum-up cutting discs.
Insanely high quality channel
For fixed operation at home, I use 12mm Abus chain and a decent cross bolt lock. 8mm for travel, usually.
A motorcycle thief gave me good advice: Park next to a more desirable machine, and lock it up. 1) they will choose the other machine and 2) ANY lock increases the time spent on the machine and therefore increases the chances of being caught.
How about a follow up video? "Best gun to shoot the thieves with"
Any .357 Magnum with hollow points. Just sayin'.
12 ga can't go wrong with double aught or triple aught buck shot.
@@zerodamonsta942 they will drop their battery-powered angle grinder for damned sure.
Really depends on what your country/state/county/etc limitations. There's no one size fits all in firearms.
American that doesn't live in a communist state? Whatever you want it to be.
Rest of the world? Good luck fighting them off with your butter knife. Even if it's legal the court system will probably ream you.
I find that the best gun is... no gun. Let me set the stage for you:
You're a piece of shit in someone's driveway, working on stealing their bike. Just as one side of the chain parts, you hear the front door open. You're ready for a fat, 40 year old man with a gun. You're not scared. The gun's probably not even loaded. He doesn't want the trouble. He just wants to scare you off. He's not going to fire that thing in the neighborhood.
Now, alternatively, you're a piece of shit trying to steal someone's bike, you hear the door open, and you look over, ready for the fat 40 year old guy with the gun. But you're wrong. There's no gun. You're expecting a gun, *where is the gun?* He has a bow. Not some stick-and-string from your childhood Robin Hood cartoons, a modern bow, this hateful contraption of wheels and cables. You know things now. This is probably not a normal, balanced individual. He is NOT afraid to loose the arrow, because it won't hit the neighbor's kids, asleep in their beds. It won't make a lot of noise. And he's holding the string back, the *easiest* thing for him to do now, is let go. But you don't get to look for long before al almost-silent "thup" is heard, and your chest sprouts a fletched shaft of carbon fiber. The broadhead has torn a 1.5" diameter hole all the way through your person. The loudest noise to come from this is your scream, more shock than pain at first. Your breath gurgles in your chest. You take a few steps towards the pile of junk you drove over here. Your friend starts to get out, when another "thup" is heard, and another arrow appears in the door of your truck. Your friend drives away, leaving you with the madman. Leaving you, to your fate.
But if you don't have a bow, another really entertaining alternative is a sword. And if you're going to chase off a burglar with a sword, you have to do it the correct way, that is, naked, with a fully primed hate stiffy.
screaming disk brake alarms are good . they dont even notice them until they go off and wake u up
Best disc locks
Kovix KAL14
Detecto 8077
Abus Granit quick
Victory 68
Oxford boss alarm
Abus power xs 67
Oxford nemesis
Xena xx14 or xx10
I seen fibre woven chain locks. They have fibres around the metal but under the rubber so when an angle grinder is used they trap it.
I had a thief try to steal my bike that had 2 large chains locking it down. They brought a full acetylene torch in the car and burned through both chains. I only still have my bike because I caught them in the act, and thankfully I had Yamahas new anti theft stuff which they didn’t know how to hot wire. Lesson: there are some thieves out there that no chain will stop. My new motto is they can’t steal what they can’t find.
1. Kovix KAL14
2. Xena XX14
3. Detecto 8077
4. Granit quick
5. Victory 68
6. Oxford boss alarm
7. Abus power XS 67
8. Oxford nemesis
These are thick and won’t fit all discs so do your research on what will fit your bike, also if your sprocket has holes in that is a great place to put locks.
This guy's channel is brilliant, keep up the great work.
I’m thinking, on my bike I’ll put a compartment under the seat with a chain welded to the bike. Don’t even have to worry about carrying it around
This song is somewhat nostalgic 6:20
Try a Ramset on these lock mechanisms. If I were a thief and not looking for stealth once on the scene, that's the one I'd take.
My lock and my alarm are just visual deterrents. A motivated thief will cut through the chain or the lock in a second. The alarm is a second level but if they are fast enough and have enough people they can put it in a box truck in about a minute if they’re organized. The two trackers I have hidden in the bike allow me to track them down guns a blazing.
The trick with any lock setup is make your thing harder to steal than your neighbors.
The folding lock is a good option if its cheap, and small like a bicycle or a really cheap moped. Armored cables cost more for no difference, Mostly people without tools will target cheap stuff. However The chain is obvious if it's a actual motorcycle.