I was excited to really see how it all went down, and how everything stacked up, but this video is extremely superficial; there's almost no data at all, it's mostly just pricing and recommendations. We didn't even get an overview of all the locks to be tested, and which brands were included or excluded. This could have been a very compelling video if it had more depth and passion poured into it.
Now we need a crossover with The Lockpicking Lawyer so he can test the best of these against simple picking attacks, like raking. I've been shocked at how many strong locks can be opened in 2-10 seconds by an amateur picker who makes it look like they are simply opening the lock with a key.
@@veganpotterthevegan I had this massive chain I was so proud of/confident in and LPL took less then 2 secs to open it and said it was a low skill attack. Switched to the Evolution since he showed that it took more time and skill and is what he uses on his.
Lock picking is almost non existent mate, the tool of choice for thieves is the Angle-grinder. I really wish people would stop propagating this myth that there's tons of thieves out there with lock picks lmao
@@robertmcfadyen9156 Kryptonite has no angle grinder resistant locks on the market it seems. Their top U lock loses to every premium lock in this video vs angle grinders every time even when amateurs cut them. I saw their top Fahgetaboutit U lock get both sides cut through in under 30 seconds. Under the same conditions, LiteLok's X1 (the cheapest angle grinder resistant lock) took about 70 secs while the X3 and HipLok's D1000 took 4-5 mins. This was with a plugged in angle grinder so worst case scenario since realistically thieves carry battery powered ones. Some of Kryptonite's chain locks seems OK though.
To be honest, although there is some interesting information in the video, it is of less interest to me. I'm looking for less talk and more statistics, comparing designs, data, content detail, etc. I also want to see the tests.
@@bikeradar These will be tainted no doubt due to hand picked tests to make Abus look better than they really are . I have broken specimens in my work room .
@@bikeradar So two weeks passed and I still cannot find the review. You haven't been even slightly serious with this and your previous sponsored by Abus tests.
A lock that can last longer than the battery on a grinder should be considered angle grinder resistant. Also, did the locks require both sides to be cut through? Where was Kryptonite? On the streets, thieves are predominantly using angle grinders now, so torsion testing is irrelevant.
Kryptonite doesn't have anything on the level of HipLok or LiteLok. The Squire D16 Max looks good too which is why I'm watching this. There are plenty more videos of the X1, X3 and D1000 and DX1000 so I know how good those are.
This video lacks depth. I came to see stats and locks getting tested. This video does not include either or lack thereof. You grinded and bent and tested away 7k for a very superficial video. Sorry but what a huge waste of what could have been a first and an amazing opportunity that not a single other person has been able to do or done.
I had the recommended LITELOK but had to return it eventually because the locking mechanism was so temperamental it was a nightmare to use! I then had the D 1000 which I thought was excellent but sadly managed to lose it recently after leaving it behind. I’m now using the Abus Granit. Seems okay. But missing the D1000 !
The Litelok X1 locking mechanism is definitely a little temperamental but I found a quick squish of WD40 every 3-4 weeks was more than enough to deal with that problem.
Why do you think that OSB panels are a good backdrop to your videos? It just tells me that you (didn't) think: "We couldn't be bothered finding anything better than the bare minimum cheapest woodchip panelling". It's ugly and lazy. Do better.
Oh the toughest locks shown, which are ideal for a carbon frame road bike or similar bike? Something that'll give protection without damaging thr carbon frame. Thanks
If the lock is U - shaped , it has been bent to this shape . Hardening is 1mm thick case hardening . The core will be softer . Full hardening would be financially unfeasable .
Really the two most common ways locks are broken into to steal a bike or e-scooter is by angle grinder or circular saw and bolt cutters! When really the easiest way to get into these locks is by picking them but not a lot of people know how to pick locks. If you watch the lock picking lawyer on RUclips he proves it cuz he picks just about every lock he gets
I felt you dropped the ball at the very end, you didn't even mention the hip lock d1000 in the diamond test at the end you skipped right over it so it tells me you have something of an agenda on selling these locks what other reason would you have for not mentioning the hip lock amongst the strongest locks you've got and their test results
I was excited to really see how it all went down, and how everything stacked up, but this video is extremely superficial; there's almost no data at all, it's mostly just pricing and recommendations. We didn't even get an overview of all the locks to be tested, and which brands were included or excluded.
This could have been a very compelling video if it had more depth and passion poured into it.
Strongly agree .
Sorry this wasn’t a great video…
Now we need a crossover with The Lockpicking Lawyer so he can test the best of these against simple picking attacks, like raking. I've been shocked at how many strong locks can be opened in 2-10 seconds by an amateur picker who makes it look like they are simply opening the lock with a key.
Why wear out even 75p of a noisy £10 cutting wheel when you can use a quiet pick for decades?
@@veganpotterthevegan I had this massive chain I was so proud of/confident in and LPL took less then 2 secs to open it and said it was a low skill attack.
Switched to the Evolution since he showed that it took more time and skill and is what he uses on his.
Most people that steal bikes or e-scooters don't pick locks they use an angle grinder or a bolt cutter!
Lock picking on the street is almost non existent, as far as I heard from law enforcement circles.
Lock picking is almost non existent mate, the tool of choice for thieves is the Angle-grinder. I really wish people would stop propagating this myth that there's tons of thieves out there with lock picks lmao
Should present the data
Yes . There are many other brands like Lockwood , Master , On Guard , Yale , Bikevault , Dominion , Kryptonite .
I wish the could make the bikes in like Barronium coated 😁
@@robertmcfadyen9156 Kryptonite has no angle grinder resistant locks on the market it seems. Their top U lock loses to every premium lock in this video vs angle grinders every time even when amateurs cut them. I saw their top Fahgetaboutit U lock get both sides cut through in under 30 seconds. Under the same conditions, LiteLok's X1 (the cheapest angle grinder resistant lock) took about 70 secs while the X3 and HipLok's D1000 took 4-5 mins. This was with a plugged in angle grinder so worst case scenario since realistically thieves carry battery powered ones. Some of Kryptonite's chain locks seems OK though.
He said the data is all on the website
why did they choose to not mention the angel grinder cutting time of the Hiplok D1000 ??? 🤨
It looks like Warren has been shown what to say .
To be honest, although there is some interesting information in the video, it is of less interest to me. I'm looking for less talk and more statistics, comparing designs, data, content detail, etc. I also want to see the tests.
Waste of 7k y'all could have shared a table showing all the data from the tests for 5 seconds and saved us all 8 minutes of yapping lmao.
Damn y’all missed out on such a good video. No testing some whatsoever
…so where are the test results? And why did you remove the rubber layer from the X1 when angle-grinding it?
Thanks for watching, we'll be publishing the results on bikeradar.com next week.
@@bikeradar These will be tainted no doubt due to hand picked tests to make Abus look better than they really are . I have broken specimens in my work room .
@@bikeradarRemember BMW and Canyon's problems . See the similarities .
@@bikeradar So two weeks passed and I still cannot find the review. You haven't been even slightly serious with this and your previous sponsored by Abus tests.
@@Skip11AMlots of demands from a guy who is offering nothing in return. Do your own tests or leave them alone
A lock that can last longer than the battery on a grinder should be considered angle grinder resistant.
Also, did the locks require both sides to be cut through?
Where was Kryptonite?
On the streets, thieves are predominantly using angle grinders now, so torsion testing is irrelevant.
Good points .
Do kryptonite have any angle grinder resistant locks? Or have they fallen behind and people will forget about them.
Kryptonite doesn't have anything on the level of HipLok or LiteLok. The Squire D16 Max looks good too which is why I'm watching this. There are plenty more videos of the X1, X3 and D1000 and DX1000 so I know how good those are.
Are they? are you the auditor or the thief king?
This video lacks depth. I came to see stats and locks getting tested. This video does not include either or lack thereof.
You grinded and bent and tested away 7k for a very superficial video. Sorry but what a huge waste of what could have been a first and an amazing opportunity that not a single other person has been able to do or done.
I had the recommended LITELOK but had to return it eventually because the locking mechanism was so temperamental it was a nightmare to use!
I then had the D 1000 which I thought was excellent but sadly managed to lose it recently after leaving it behind.
I’m now using the Abus Granit. Seems okay. But missing the D1000 !
The Litelok X1 locking mechanism is definitely a little temperamental but I found a quick squish of WD40 every 3-4 weeks was more than enough to deal with that problem.
2:55 Tungsten impregnated cutting discs .
Warren should review the meaning of "pressure"
Warren needs to show his metallurgy masters degree on a short video .
Trelock U4 Plus weighs just 900g, is gold rated and sells for under 60EUR. Just saying.
Why do you think that OSB panels are a good backdrop to your videos? It just tells me that you (didn't) think: "We couldn't be bothered finding anything better than the bare minimum cheapest woodchip panelling". It's ugly and lazy. Do better.
Oh the toughest locks shown, which are ideal for a carbon frame road bike or similar bike? Something that'll give protection without damaging thr carbon frame. Thanks
If the lock is U - shaped , it has been bent to this shape . Hardening is 1mm thick case hardening . The core will be softer . Full hardening would be financially unfeasable .
Hmmm… since die grinders create “sparks” I wonder if you had explosive gas inside the lock? And put danger warnings on the lock? ⚠️
You never mention the £2 poles the bikes are attached to.....
Okay, so it's angle grinder resistant... But what about the metal you hook your bike to? Most are made of common metal 😆
lol @ silverline T handle hex keys , proper high quality stuff there.
@bikeradar, when using the angle grinder do i need to make 2 cuts in it or just one. Im guessing it doesnt just fall open with 1 cut.
7:50 angular kerf cutting gives a faster result .
Lockpicking shims .
Hollow video. Nothing really shown here. :( Very disappointed.
Really the two most common ways locks are broken into to steal a bike or e-scooter is by angle grinder or circular saw and bolt cutters! When really the easiest way to get into these locks is by picking them but not a lot of people know how to pick locks. If you watch the lock picking lawyer on RUclips he proves it cuz he picks just about every lock he gets
...with a special tool that isn't widely available, context is everything.
@@blahqwe What are you talking about You can get them off his site. 🤦🏼♂️
@@The_Cannabis_Connoisseur Where? Think not.
1:10 , gross "LIE" , bottle jacks for trucks can exert 50 tonnes pressure . Auto shops sell them .
And an angle grinder will easily cut thru any metal bar lock..
The seven thirty report tested a bunch of them many years ago . Choice Magazine has too . This is reporbate content .
Quite poor performance of the Abus 2500, since it is the heaviest by far.
Disappointing quality. I might have stretched it, by using the word quality!
So another words why bother locking your bike. With cheap cordless tools no lock works
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No Kryptonite lock? How could you ignore them?
This makes your "study" incomplete.
Kryptonite were invited, but didn't present stock to be tested . He said all major brands
I felt you dropped the ball at the very end, you didn't even mention the hip lock d1000 in the diamond test at the end you skipped right over it so it tells me you have something of an agenda on selling these locks what other reason would you have for not mentioning the hip lock amongst the strongest locks you've got and their test results