Excellent social engineering. He puts the burden on her to help by implying that he'll miss the shipment for the day unless she gives him the number. He speaks with such authority too, you almost want to just go along with what he's saying.
Yes! I recall him dabbling in the most esoteric mathematics in "Hannibal," trying to reverse entropy or some such thing. For me, this makes of Harris' novels something of a supernatural horror.
I've loved this film for decades. 'I don't have the use of my arms'...as he deftly manipulates the phone. I find this hilarious...even though what he is doing is horrific for Will's family. Amazing.
Cox and Hopkins BOTH did excellent jobs in the role, they simply had a different style. Cox was smooth, relaxed, nonchalant but effective. Hopkins put more soul and energy into the character. Both pulled off Lector great in my view. I do think this movie is very underrated though. Perhaps ahead of its time or just a diamond in the rough.
It's unfair to compare Hopkins and Cox, as Hopkins was seen first by most people and had the advantage of having a fully developed main character. I think they were both great, but prefer Manhunter' style to any of the others. Nevertheless, Silence of the Lambs is one of my favorite movies and was well-acted.
Brian Cox is a sensational and underrated actor and there is plenty of scope (not to mention demand) for a stand-alone sequel to Manhunter. Lecktor/ Lecter is one of the few genuinely fascinating characters in modern folklore. I will look up 'There Will Be Blood...'
Cox did a fine job with an impossible super human character comes across as the College Eccentric deceptively harmless, Hopkins just found a different facet of him that was more of a polished snake. Characters like Hannibal and The Joker pose a huge challenge to actors since their are numerous ways to interpret them. Mads also did a fine job and he was more the physically imposing Lecter not that Lecter is a large man but his physical movements were quite imposing and used his body to create fear.
Brian Cox did this much better than Anthony Hopkins. Cox sounded more friendly while Hopkins sounded like a psychotic the whole time. That'd just creep out whoever he was talking to.
I would like to say that the director Michael Mann spent a great amount of time doing research about the typical behaviour of the psycopath murderers and the method of apprehending them before he started shooting the film. As the result, Manhunter became one of the most realistic crime drama thriller whose realism is rarely matched.
Man its called an opion dude i can see how u like hopkins better i prefer cox plus and Oscar not the definitive say so on things let me give you an example Double Indemnity its director didnt win its oscar it went to a hack no 70 years later its Double Indemnity that's remembered '' were not trying to be contary were honest some of us perfer Man Hunter others silence of the Lambs some like Cox some like Hopkins who are you to say were wrong and vise versa P.S you sound like some one who likes to cook bacon Naked
Hope you have gotten a chance to see it in the last 15 years....saw it with my best friend in the theater when it was released. We were in high school....probably a saturday night, midnight showing...loved those
Now that the Anthony Hopkins Hannibal Lecter franchise has been exhausted (Hopkins himself has said he would never play the role again) perhaps it would be interesting to see a direct sequel to Manhunter focusing on Cox's version of Lecktor?
@5eurocups2005 The set construction for "Lambs" and "Dragon" was not designed to make up for anything. And details which are extremely important were also changed (I believe due to legal issues if I recall) such as spelling "Lecter" as "Lecktor."
@5eurocups2005 You have to remember, though, that Lecter is on a totally different level than everyone else intellectually. He needs to be played as such, having a certain level of disconnect. So playing him "realistically" doesn't really work for the character. He needs to be detached and aloof. Plus, keep in mind he is utterly mad. But you do have a point about the Oscars, though it is not always the good movies that get ignored. Though it is sometimes.
@LordJazor Manhunter was never going to get Oscar awards even though it truly deserves them, it didn't have the backing enough Commercially, i heard it was shown just 1 weekend as well, do you actually take notice of the Oscars anyway, its always the better movies that get ignored. The reason i think Brian does a better a job is because he is so Believable/Realistic playing this Psychopath, Whereas Hopkins portrayal as Lecktor was certainly a movie performance if you know what i mean
I saw it being discussed on a forum dedicated to old rotary phones and the people there seemed to think that this was likely not possible. Here is the explanation: In the clip, Lecter does not pulse a number, he shorts something to get a dial tone, then uses "social engineering" to talk an AT&T operator into dialing a number for him. The only way you could get a dial tone by shorting something is if the phone is connected to a "ground start" line. But we see that it is not, because originally he lifts the phone and the prison switchboard operator answers. So, he should NOT be able to get a dial tone, outside line or otherwise, by doing what is shown.
It does appear plausible and clever. I have heard about all kinds of prison hacks like this. The ingenuity of an intelligent person with nothing but time is astounding some times.
@LordJazor to be honest seeing his drawings like the one out of the silence of the lambs would look a bit silly and out of place in the cell in manhunter, the lecktor in manhunter like i said is portrayed as a real life psychopath and does not have to have medieval drawings and a cell fit for Nosferatu, michael mann didn't want that whole aspect to his movie, most directors that base there movies on novels don't necessarily have to put every single detail in, example Kubrick with the shining
@LordJazor you have to admit Hopkins had it easy with the creepy dungeon cell that looked like something out of beneath the planet of the apes and background organ music whereas Brian Cox had just a plain white cell all i am saying really is Brian Cox's performance as Lecktor was true to life, like the way Bundy would be if he was send to a Psychiatric hospital and Hopkins will be put down as a "Movie" performance
dont compare this movie and red dragon, it is two diffrent movies based on the same material. it is two great movies and im so lucky that i choose to love the booth
@lehnrik I think what I meant was, Hannibal Lecter has entered into the popular consciousness as much as any historical character. Does that make sense?
@5eurocups2005 He does indeed have a blank cell. But that's another issue: accuracy. Where are Lecter's drawings? Read the novels and you'll see that this is very inaccurate.
The accent is really similar, and neither actor is English, so maybe they're both affecting an accent from the same part of England or a generic English accent? The charm is similar, as well.
@5eurocups2005 Which is why Brian Cox got the Oscar. And why Brian Cox's portrayal is listed as the number one film villain of all time. And why everyone loves this movie more than 'Red Dragon.' Brian Cox is a wonderful actor (one of my favorites), and I am not saying he isn't brilliant, but by all accounts, Hopkins was the better Lecter.
@LordJazor Brian Cox's performance is simply brilliant, his Hannibal is a most intelligent and frightening one, superior to Anthony Hopkins' campy portrayal of Hannibal. Anthony Hopkins could never pull of these intellectual, sly and subtle and above all realistic scenes in Manhunter the way Brian Cox did, Hopkins is such a theatrical stage actor that he simply isn't capable
Shut up! I was going to say that! Given that he probably taught himself everything he knows, save the medical training -- from mathematics, to literature, to music -- I like that little confession of Harris. I wonder if he played better with that extra finger. ;-)
even if i've never seen hopkins performance, i still would have found this performance decent, but it has no sense of danger or fear behind his voice. The setting doesn't help either.
Anthony Hopkins is so much more eloquent and sly as Lecter. I never was a fan of Manhunter. Hopkins has a certain elegance and fluidity that I fear Brian Cox lacked in his portrayal. I love Brian Cox as an actor, but I do think Hopkins is better in this part.
Like a top-hinged metal notebook with a sliding arrow on the right hand side. You move the arrow to the correct letter and push the tab at the bottom. The call caddy will open up to the contacts with that letter.
![[ASMR] hannibal lecter cooking](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lOIZmoOhJik/mqdefault.jpg)
Yes, Cox's performance is excellent, everything Lecter is: casual, friendly, nearly-hypnotic to watch.
He proves the old adage that it is easier to catch flies with honey. He is so polite and grateful to everyone. Scarily so....
Excellent social engineering. He puts the burden on her to help by implying that he'll miss the shipment for the day unless she gives him the number. He speaks with such authority too, you almost want to just go along with what he's saying.
If you want to get technical, it’s easier to catch flies with excrement.
Manners will get you everywhere
The AT&T Operator: "So glad I could help that armless guy, my good deed for the day"
"I don't have the use of my arms".
"Hi Martha" i always laugh when he says that line for some reason.
Me too...along with saying he can't use his arms whilst rigging the phone and unwrapping gum!
The way that guard talks to him is so jarring compared to his super polite and charming manner
01:32 that momentary confidence lapse as he's caught out.
Yes! I recall him dabbling in the most esoteric mathematics in "Hannibal," trying to reverse entropy or some such thing. For me, this makes of Harris' novels something of a supernatural horror.
I've loved this film for decades.
'I don't have the use of my arms'...as he deftly manipulates the phone. I find this hilarious...even though what he is doing is horrific for Will's family. Amazing.
zip that rolodex
Cox and Hopkins BOTH did excellent jobs in the role, they simply had a different style. Cox was smooth, relaxed, nonchalant but effective. Hopkins put more soul and energy into the character. Both pulled off Lector great in my view. I do think this movie is very underrated though. Perhaps ahead of its time or just a diamond in the rough.
Agree ... there people who do not know about ....the original Dr Lecter.
Well, zip that little pointer down to the letter G!
It's unfair to compare Hopkins and Cox, as Hopkins was seen first by most people and had the advantage of having a fully developed main character.
I think they were both great, but prefer Manhunter' style to any of the others. Nevertheless, Silence of the Lambs is one of my favorite movies and was well-acted.
Silence of the Lambs was good but the sequels weren't as good. This easily beats Hannibal and Red Dragon.
Brian Cox is a sensational and underrated actor and there is plenty of scope (not to mention demand) for a stand-alone sequel to Manhunter. Lecktor/ Lecter is one of the few genuinely fascinating characters in modern folklore.
I will look up 'There Will Be Blood...'
Cox did a fine job with an impossible super human character comes across as the College Eccentric deceptively harmless, Hopkins just found a different facet of him that was more of a polished snake. Characters like Hannibal and The Joker pose a huge challenge to actors since their are numerous ways to interpret them. Mads also did a fine job and he was more the physically imposing Lecter not that Lecter is a large man but his physical movements were quite imposing and used his body to create fear.
Absolutely chilling
Brian Cox did this much better than Anthony Hopkins. Cox sounded more friendly while Hopkins sounded like a psychotic the whole time. That'd just creep out whoever he was talking to.
I would like to say that the director Michael Mann spent a great amount of time doing research about the typical behaviour of the psycopath murderers and the method of apprehending them before he started shooting the film.
As the result, Manhunter became one of the most realistic crime drama thriller whose realism is rarely matched.
Also, Michael Mann even interviewed a psychopath interned in prison during that process.
all these people trying to be contrary...where is Cox's oscar. hopkins was far creepier.
Man its called an opion dude i can see how u like hopkins better i prefer cox plus and Oscar not the definitive say so on things let me give you an example Double Indemnity its director didnt win its oscar it went to a hack no 70 years later its Double Indemnity that's remembered '' were not trying to be contary were honest some of us perfer Man Hunter others silence of the Lambs some like Cox some like Hopkins who are you to say were wrong and vise versa P.S you sound like some one who likes to cook bacon Naked
I don't agree with you ... cox did that rule like a mafia man ... but Hopkins was so far scarier ...
man he's smart! I wanna see this movie
Have you seen it yet? You've had 12 years now, LOL.
Hope you have gotten a chance to see it in the last 15 years....saw it with my best friend in the theater when it was released. We were in high school....probably a saturday night, midnight showing...loved those
Now that the Anthony Hopkins Hannibal Lecter franchise has been exhausted (Hopkins himself has said he would never play the role again) perhaps it would be interesting to see a direct sequel to Manhunter focusing on Cox's version of Lecktor?
Thank you so much...what a nice chap
@5eurocups2005 The set construction for "Lambs" and "Dragon" was not designed to make up for anything. And details which are extremely important were also changed (I believe due to legal issues if I recall) such as spelling "Lecter" as "Lecktor."
@5eurocups2005 You have to remember, though, that Lecter is on a totally different level than everyone else intellectually. He needs to be played as such, having a certain level of disconnect. So playing him "realistically" doesn't really work for the character. He needs to be detached and aloof. Plus, keep in mind he is utterly mad.
But you do have a point about the Oscars, though it is not always the good movies that get ignored. Though it is sometimes.
@LordJazor Manhunter was never going to get Oscar awards even though it truly deserves them, it didn't have the backing enough Commercially, i heard it was shown just 1 weekend as well, do you actually take notice of the Oscars anyway, its always the better movies that get ignored.
The reason i think Brian does a better a job is because he is so Believable/Realistic playing this Psychopath, Whereas Hopkins portrayal as Lecktor was certainly a movie performance if you know what i mean
Would that trick with the bubble gum wrapper really work? 0:39
I saw it being discussed on a forum dedicated to old rotary phones and the people there seemed to think that this was likely not possible. Here is the explanation:
In the clip, Lecter does not pulse a number, he shorts something to get a dial tone, then uses "social engineering" to talk an AT&T operator into dialing a number for him.
The only way you could get a dial tone by shorting something is if the phone is connected to a "ground start" line. But we see that it is not, because originally he lifts the phone and the prison switchboard operator answers.
So, he should NOT be able to get a dial tone, outside line or otherwise, by doing what is shown.
@@magetaaaaaa Thank you. That makes sense.
It does appear plausible and clever. I have heard about all kinds of prison hacks like this. The ingenuity of an intelligent person with nothing but time is astounding some times.
Damn, he dialed my actual cell number.
Luckily it's an older movie that many people don't know about. If it was a newer film that phone would be smoking with nonstop calls lol.
@LordJazor to be honest seeing his drawings like the one out of the silence of the lambs would look a bit silly and out of place in the cell in manhunter, the lecktor in manhunter like i said is portrayed as a real life psychopath and does not have to have medieval drawings and a cell fit for Nosferatu, michael mann didn't want that whole aspect to his movie, most directors that base there movies on novels don't necessarily have to put every single detail in, example Kubrick with the shining
@LordJazor you have to admit Hopkins had it easy with the creepy dungeon cell that looked like something out of beneath the planet of the apes and background organ music whereas Brian Cox had just a plain white cell
all i am saying really is Brian Cox's performance as Lecktor was true to life, like the way Bundy would be if he was send to a Psychiatric hospital and Hopkins will be put down as a "Movie" performance
Hopkins in SOL was the greatest performance of all time.
Expertly done.
dont compare this movie and red dragon, it is two diffrent movies based on the same material.
it is two great movies and im so lucky that i choose to love the booth
Excellent
Love this scene ....Brian Cox the orginal LECTER.
@MikeMJPMUNCH,
The way Brian says it is brilliant.
@LordJazor There is a Shelving Unit to the side of his cell, the drawings could easily be put away there.
Brian Cox's Hannibal was chillingly real. Jodie Foster and (sir) Anthony Hopkins were doing Pantomime by comparison. Silence of the overrated. 😎
@lehnrik I think what I meant was, Hannibal Lecter has entered into the popular consciousness as much as any historical character. Does that make sense?
They are out there roaming around, be on the watch ⌚
yes. You are right. He didn't. But if you read the books you'd know he has a memory palace.
como le mete los chicles. Ni siquiera Mcgiver se atrevio a tanto con el telefono.
Spend it right. Or, better still, save it all up in a tin 'for a rainy day', as we say here in England.
I actually prefer Cox's version of Hannibal to Hopkins. He seems almost normal which is how a lot of psychopaths behave. Hopkins seemed a bit OTT.
@5eurocups2005 He does indeed have a blank cell. But that's another issue: accuracy. Where are Lecter's drawings? Read the novels and you'll see that this is very inaccurate.
Why does Lecktor remind me of Spike (From Buffy) in this scene? Well in ALL the scenes, I suppose.
The accent is really similar, and neither actor is English, so maybe they're both affecting an accent from the same part of England or a generic English accent? The charm is similar, as well.
Does anyone know what book Dr. Lecter have in this scene? "Phychopathology" Thanks a lot.
Psychopathology A source book by Charles F. Reed
@5eurocups2005 His drawings are for display. Why would he put them away?
@5eurocups2005 Which is why Brian Cox got the Oscar. And why Brian Cox's portrayal is listed as the number one film villain of all time. And why everyone loves this movie more than 'Red Dragon.' Brian Cox is a wonderful actor (one of my favorites), and I am not saying he isn't brilliant, but by all accounts, Hopkins was the better Lecter.
Don’t you mean “Hopkins”? You said, “Cox”. But, it seems you meant, “Hopkins”. But, due to the way you said it, it’s confusing.
And Lecter had 'disadvantages'...
I know it has been 11 years. But his disadvantage is underestimation, a trait every pure evil geniuses have.
...but it rains in England all the time.
Hopkins is from Wales and cox is from Scotland ( just saying)
@LordJazor Brian Cox's performance is simply brilliant, his Hannibal is a most intelligent and frightening one, superior to Anthony Hopkins' campy portrayal of Hannibal.
Anthony Hopkins could never pull of these intellectual, sly and subtle and above all realistic scenes in Manhunter the way Brian Cox did, Hopkins is such a theatrical stage actor that he simply isn't capable
Does anyone that know old telephones know if he could get the operator by doing that
Yes
Shut up! I was going to say that! Given that he probably taught himself everything he knows, save the medical training -- from mathematics, to literature, to music -- I like that little confession of Harris. I wonder if he played better with that extra finger. ;-)
even if i've never seen hopkins performance, i still would have found this performance decent, but it has no sense of danger or fear behind his voice. The setting doesn't help either.
@randomdave30 Characters in fictional work are not folklore.
This 🎥 was only done once. Hopkins version was an amateurs cartoon
Hopkins leaves this queer in the dust.
@@GigaChadh976 Yourself no doubt.
@@GigaChadh976 Are you saying Hopkins left you in the dust? How and why?
Brian Cox is a fantastic actor, but I still think I prefer Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter.
@Teamsleeper No, it wouldn't be "cool".
@5eurocups2005 And just so we're clear, everyone, I think we both respect each others' opinions here. XD This is an intelligent sort of debate.
Rolodex
Anthony Hopkins is so much more eloquent and sly as Lecter. I never was a fan of Manhunter. Hopkins has a certain elegance and fluidity that I fear Brian Cox lacked in his portrayal. I love Brian Cox as an actor, but I do think Hopkins is better in this part.
maybe you should assume the role
Chances are, if you're actually considering this, you're not nearly intelligent enough to really "assume" this "role."
Most everyone's likely seen a rolodex at least once in life, but what's a call caddy?
Like a top-hinged metal notebook with a sliding arrow on the right hand side. You move the arrow to the correct letter and push the tab at the bottom. The call caddy will open up to the contacts with that letter.
@@crs290 Oh, now I think I remember someone I knew used to have one of those.
lol is this some bootleg version from walmart lmao??