A 2024 Look At X-Plane 12
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- A compilation of footage after the latest X-Plane 12 updates.
00:00 Carrier Daytime
00:32 Late evening helicopter landing NY
02:31 Gliding in Yosemite Orbx Nor-Cal.
04:37 Zibo 738 Night ILS Rain
06:56 Helicopter over Golden gate Orbx Nor-Cal.
08:29 C172 Airfoil Labs landing at McLellin
10:59 Night VFR
12:12 Gliding in Nevada
13:35 Zibo 738 rain takeoff
16:36 Zibo 738 daytime clouds
17:07 Aircraft Wake
18:58 Vegetation cycles
19:35 runway rain day
20:07 Runway water cycles
20:10 water freezing at -5
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Lately I find myself going back into Xplane lot more than I thought I would after MSFS. There is still something about the lighting, atmosphere and the feel of flight that MSFS hasn’t been able to capture yet.
I couldn't have said it better. X-Plane 12 has a charm to it and some unique features.
There is no competition between MSFS and X-Plane. For an overall immersion of flying and aviation, maybe msfs is better, becausse of the better graphics. There is an enormous difference. But if you´re interested in pure realistic flight simulation, x-plane 12 is NOT to beat!
I'm going a lot on xplane. I really like lighting as well and the puddles I need to admit 😂
@@svenwdyeah, I like those reflective puddles too!!! 😅
True 🎉
X Plane 12 has some of the best soundscapes I've heard in any game. Daniela is an absolute wizard for what she has done. Seriously, just loading a cold and dark plane on the ramp on a rainy or windy day is an immersive experience.
As a native nevadan, 12:07 looked soo real! I plan on using xplane 12 to compliment my actual flight training. I cant wait
WOOP WOOP!..Pilot Patrick, this is super good...Bien Hecho Mi Amigo
Beautiful footage. I believe the X-Plane franchise is still head to head with MSFS if not better. Thanks for sharing man!
I love X-Plane. Great video.
I use 98% X-Plane. Even for VFR, I have started using X-Plane. Yes, the graphics are worse than MSFS, but modded it looks quite good and the physics are way ahead of MSFS. It feels good to fly X-Plane.
Wow incredible 😮
XP12 is amazing !!! I just love that and I m looking forward for the 12.10 release. I m quite disappointed that all the developper moved away from XP, en fact there is not too many addon available esoecially the airports.
But the feeling when y are flying with XP is simple magic
Yeah I’ve just been using the old Orbx stuff they did for the west coast True Earth, which is mainly where I want to fly. And it looks great with the new lighting and clouds.
The money is with MSFS, some didn't really go away they just got busy with MSFS and left XP 12 to mature. JF Dutchess for XP 12 is wonderful :). Orbx will be releasing UK for 12 soon too. Hopefully they will update and release the rest of the XP11 catalogue to 12 (some of it does work in 12, but I want to wait for the 12 release.). XP will never likely get the same amount of people or even 50% of what MSFS has. XP is to civ flightsims like Mac\Linux OS is to Windows OS.
I m also using ORBX TE UK, originally made for XP11..
Do y use a special library to update the texture for XP12?
I randomly met a modeler for X-Plane, guy is in his 70's. Real nice fellow.
MSFS is my main sim right now but I find myself enjoying the lighting especially at night a lot more in XP-12. Also it could just be me but the sense of speed feels better in XP-12
Nice footage. I need to find the time to flight sim
X-Plane seems to fly better for me, I came over to X-plane after flying every MS sim from 5.0 for Dos up to FSX.
i agree with most of this. FS9 is still my favorite of all the flight sims i have played from roughly the same time period as you as old as i am.. if this new Virpil hotas & pedals i just bought (every gets to me) works on FS( i will be staying with it. If it does not then i will most likely be buying xplane 12. the LES saab creator says they do not support xplane 12 but several people use the les saab 340 on 12 and it works just fine.
00:01 Carrier Daytime
00:32 Late evening helicopter landing NY
02:31 Gliding in Yosemite Orbx Nor-Cal.
04:37 Zibo 738 Night ILS Rain
06:56 Helicopter over Golden gate Orbx Nor-Cal.
08:29 C172 Airfoil Labs landing at McLellin
10:59 Night VFR
12:12 Gliding in Nevada
13:35 Zibo 738 rain takeoff
16:36 Zibo 738 daytime clouds
17:07 Aircraft Wake
18:58 Vegetation cycles
19:35 runway rain day
20:07 Runway water cycles
20:10 water freezing at -5
00:00 to 00:31 F-18 aboard carrier
Nice
The first seen on the aircraft carrier - raindrops on the canopy, yet the flight deck(very empty personnel wise ) is dry, that really breaks the immersion. The Glider shot makes me wonder about how they work the wind and heat risers in the atmosphere to make a glider really work like the real thing. All in all; X-plane 12 looks pretty good but has a ways to go yet.
do you use orbx for New York too or is that all built-in? scenery is the one thing that is a mystery to me with xplane...
That was default NY. With beautifully done helipads everywhere. Was a nice surprise.
All airports in the XP12 are very well done. Great job on that. But surface in general, 3d geo model, and surface textures look a bit outdated.
Where Did you download this scenery? Or is it default?
What graphics and mods did you use? Can you make a begineers guide like you did to xp11? Thank you!
Only mod was Orbx Northern California for scenery. Airfoillabs 172 and the Zibo 738. Everything else is stock XP12. But I will probably make a video too.
@@TheFlightSimDeck I recommend Visual XP to improve the look of your clouds and atmosphere. Night and day difference in my opinion!
@@PilotLH Sounds good, I will look into that.
I much prefer X Plane to MSFS (and I've tried multiple times with MSFS).. I actually prefer the graphics in X Plane, with Ortho and Sim Heaven (both free), it looks great. Especially in VR. The night lighting blows MSFS out of the water. The planes are excellent in X Plane. I like the airport gateway, most airports are now fairly accurately modelled built into the sim. Avitab is ideal, especially for VR. VR controller integration too.
With a bit of effort and no extra cost (Ortho and Sim Heaven), you can get X Plane looking very comparable to MSFS. In my view, it loks better, but each to our own preferences. The flight model in X Plane, especially in VR, is top notch.
Add a few add paid for add ons (Traffic Global, Global Forests v2) and you have a great sim.
completely agree.
How does Xplane 12 win over msfs in night lighting. I have to disagree that night lighting in msfs is much more to the real thing
@@ivalterbaptista2305 I much prefer it in x plane, especially in VR, it's amazing.
Why Ortho and Simheaven? Play it Vanilla out of the Box.
I dont need 10 extra Software to have a Good looking Sim
@@ichichsen3001 Then don't (?) What's the goal of this comment?
XP12 still has issues but it gets better each update.
How did you get Orbx North California to work on XP-12? Thanks for the video, I am on XP-11 and P3Dv5 and on the fence with XP-12. MSFS Is very nice looking but call It nostalgia or better sims I recently turned back to XP and P3D. Also how Is the performance? Looks good here and I am on a i7 and RX6700XT. Thank you.
I just copy and pasted the XP11 install folders and they worked on XP12. The performance has been good using track IR, but with VR it's not as smooth as everything else.
@@TheFlightSimDeck Ok thank for your reply! I did find out that there Is a official workaround from Orbx themselves to get the scenery to work In XP12. You do lose the light and effects that XP12 use though. The workaround Is on the Orbx forum IIRC. BTW, I did buy XP12, awesome!
That freight train at the end (20:40) is doing about 100mph, or is the footage sped up?
That clip was sped up to show the process better.
I've never seen the spray @ 5:30. Is that a setting or a mod? I've landed pretty wet before.
Possible it’s part of the Zibo. I use ski rain effect in the EFB settings.
looks very good but the rain during the day on take-off doesn't look the best. but setting still it looks really good.
Everyone talks about how MSFS graphics are insane, yadda yadda yadda. They are good, very good. But, X-Plane 12 is mind blowing IMO and only getting better (minus ground textures which we have ortho for). I fly/sim on a 55'' 4k monitor, and some of the scenes I experience with x-plane12 with all the environmental and lighting going on, makes me forgot I'm sitting in front of a screen. I don't ever get that immersion with MSFS, and I've given it ample opportunity. This coupled with XP's flight dynamics makes it a master piece. I think it's only a matter of time before the larger community and the developers realize this and come 'back home'.
There is something to the XP12 lighting that I really like. It’s not always across the board better, but sometimes I feel like MSFS is almost too colorful at times. Which you can most likely taper down with Nvidia settings. But I really enjoy both sims. Generally, the people talking down about XP don’t use it. They’re offended by its existence somehow. I’ve used XP for the last 8 years and it’s just a part of my flight sim culture, so to speak.
I've found nothing in MSFS that X-Plane 12 could not do better with some personal investment and time, and I'm a big MSFS fan.
Agree or not, if you just want to enjoy VFR to look around the beautiful scenery, then play MSFS is the best choice. If you want to experience flying an aircraft as reality as possible, then X-Plane is the best choice.
The Zibo 738 has strobe lights? Mine never has how can I get those? I just have a beacon light strobes never work
The position strobe switch has to be in the up position. Or there is an option in the EFB about seeing the strobe effect while in the cockpit.
Can I ask where did you get your orx add-ons please
Its from XP11, but I pasted it over to the 12 folder.
@@TheFlightSimDeck oh awesome I got loads of orbx from my xplane 11 days did not realise it worked for 12 so thankyou
Looks like multiplayer aircraft animation looks better than Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020!?
Xplane has an unrivaled flight model, this is what has kept me with it for all this time. I fly Irl now too, and it behaves so well.
The perfectly saturated colors, the volumetric lighting, the planes that have dirt on them, the sounds, it makes xplane look like real life most of the time. Msfs has way too saturated colors, the lighting tho, is on point but the planes look too clean
god i need to buy some DCS later this year!
DCS is free and most of the modules are free to try,
Might switch to X plane it takes about a century to load MSFS since an update.
X-Plane is a slug too. At least for the first flight load in of the day.
Amazing, been a biog fan since XP10. I now face a very frustrating situation. My PC pumps out MSFS at 30-45FPS but XP12 on the same machine gives me 12-19FPS. Even with all sliders whacked to minimum. Yes the PC is very old but how does a game that STREAMS petabytes of terrain data able to generate better FPS than a locally held one? Guess its time to upgrade, the PC in these videos is amazing, look at how smooth your XP12 is !
What graphics mods do you have
Only mod used in a few clips was Northern California ortho.
IIRC, X-Plane was the first "off the shelf" sim approved as a PCATD. Microsoft didn't get there until EPS (now Prepar3D) and Microsoft has been and still is a "lookup" sim where XP uses blade theory. IOW, in MSFS one's flying is governed by data points where in XP one actually "flies".
MSFS2020 is not using lookup tables which is what you seem to be implying. It uses a system that is very similar to the blade element theory in X-Plane, it's just not nearly as mature yet. They stated that in the upcoming MSFS2024 the flight models and physics have been significantly enhanced in collaboration with real pilots and aircraft manufacturers (large parts have been completely rewritten) so it'll be interesting to see how flying feels in that compared to X-Plane once it releases. You can toggle a view in MSFS2020 to visualize the simulated air moving around the plane just like you can in X-Plane.
@@rawdmon that is interesting. Not at all what I thought. It's been a minute for me and I'm just now getting to where I can get back in to it. FSX ad XP10 were my last. I had modded the crud out of FSX to get it to fly "correctly" and I guess I'm assuming it was the same way now.
Would you recommend x plane or flight sim
What kind of planes do you like to fly? If you don’t have any flight sim yet MSFS is probably the way to go. But it depends what you want to get out of your flight simulator. Each has strength in different ways.
The graphics are good except for the precipitation which looks horrible
X-PLANE 12 IS KING
Of shitty graphics for sure
Unfortunately, no footage can capture this "magic" advantage of X-Plane over MSFS...
Graphics, i.e. what affects the visual experience in movies, are (unfortunately) "terrible" in XP compared to MSFS.
But... everything else = the basis and essence of the program, which is intended to simulate flight, is absolutely 173% on the XP side.
This cannot be shown in the video, but everyone will feel it as soon as they try the XP vs MSFS confrontation (I don't mean clicking AP right after take-off and turning it off just before landing - although the differences are huge here too). ;-)
With the new G3X coming to MSFS, MSFS default GA avionics are so much superior to XP 12. Austin really needs to up his game with default GA avionics. It's falling so far behind MSFS, it's very noticeable at this point.
I personnally don’t care at all about defaut avionics. And I hope Laminar won’t spend that much time into it. Payware aircrafts are the way to go. I have deinstalled MSFS since it lacks too much, except the visuals. XP gives me way more satisfaction. That’s my opinion.
With x-plane, must you do the updates in order to play the sim? As l found this is the case with Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020. Anyone? Thank You.
No mandatory updates with XP. That’s one of the many advantages of it over MSFS.
Can also confirm no forced updates. You run then whenever you want.
I cannot say that I would prefer one sim over the other. X-Plane is on par with MSFS. Both are great. X-Plane is a bit more realistic from the flight characteristic where MSFS is a bit more realistic from the landscape.b
did you see the new zibo HUD?
No, I didn't pull it down yet, is it cool?
@@TheFlightSimDeck very cool, you definitely get it
This is a lot better than fs2020 game
which has better vr performance ?
About to find out this week.
MSFS does because you can use DLSS with it which makes a huge difference, and it uses OpenXR which supports things like foveated rendering. It's also just better optimized than X-Plane in general. You end up with better performance and significanly better graphics. The only thing that's currently better in X-Plane is the flight model. They are supposed to be significantly enhancing the flight model and physics in MSFS2024 so it'll be interesting to see how that is once it releases sometime this year (no release date announced yet).
is it really worth it to get xp12? I´ve been using msfs and xplane 11 for a while but now I only use xplane 11 for the md-11 and a340
well if you feel like thats the only use for xp 11,its probably not worth for you,for me i care about the feeling of flight and like xplanes atmosphere better,it depends on the person
@@rendycoya yeah i totally get it, I initially moved from p3d to xplane and then to msfs, and honestly i prefer xplane when it comes to flight model, thanks for the response !
@@BrunoR.2 mhm but one thing incredible about xp 12,in graphics is the lighting,its the best ive seen in any flight sim
@@rendycoya I've seen some videos and even the autogen is way better than xp11, i might get it and also the 757 or 67, I love those planes and msfs won't have neither for a while, thanks again for the help!
@@BrunoR.2 haha,also make sure if you get it,also get headshake,it makes it so much nicer
Great video. Unfortunately even in 4 k it shows the biggest issue with XP12..The crappy antialiasing, even when set to x4 its still garbage. This video is great and XP12 is easiest the best real flight sim out there! MSFS still hasn't got basic camera options like flyby or tower view..X-Plane is the best! Lets just hope Austin and co can sort the crappy AA out!
There is actually a simple fix for the AA that improves it a lot.
Yes I've used it...Am assuming you are referring to the Nvidia control panel sharpening option, a hidden option we need to edit the bios to enable it. Q8Pilot did a video on it. Am surprised you felt I didn't know about it. It certainly does help and at times looks much better as a result at times, but there are still other obvious issues, and shortcomings in X-Plane 12's Antialiasing!
I love X-Plane 12, yes I have the odd moan to highlight an issue I feel should be rectified by Austin and Laminar. We need more AA options, and not just awful FXAA and MSAA, both of which are not suitable for a flight sim with so many visuals that become eyesores so easily in such a setting as the X-Plane 12 world, and are now very old school! Who knows we might even get DLSS and like TAA at some point! @@frankbyte
@@PixelatedExistence Not 100% sure if it’s the same. It’s about making a change in the settings.txt file. And at the same time blowing up the screen resolution vis a DSR-factor has massively improved the AA for me. Is that what you are refering to?
Is there an A320 for XP?
Yeah, Tolis or Flight Factor make good ones.
Dang that looks better than msfs
Another year and several updates later and they still haven't fixed the cockpits that are way too dark. Very disappointing.
I would love for them to implement options to adjust exposure, highlights, contrast. P3D has that ability and you can do it in real time to see the results. Something like that would really help.
I want to like MSFS but xp with mods just keep beating it.
Anyone using a Pimax VR headset in XP12? Results?
Yeah I thought it sucks. XP12 has the worst VR experience. It's really good on DCS, IL2, Aerofly. MSFS I have not been able to try yet.
@@TheFlightSimDeck Just the graphics or the whole experience? I'm not a gamer; just using XP12 for actual flight training supplementation.
@@livestock9722 Yeah the graphics is one things, but they need presets for that. Because if you go back and forth from monitor to VR you have to change everyrthing. It's just presented the least good on XP12. Not as smooth as DCS and Aerofly.
@@TheFlightSimDeck Got it. Thanks for your input!
Is this all default?
Not all, some is with ortho tiles
Yeah, that's still the weak point to X-Plane for me. You still have to work at it to get it looking really good. I don't want to do that any more. Msfs is ready to go out of the box. @@TheFlightSimDeck
@@PoochAndBoo yeah I agree I wouldn’t want that so much either. Granted, it’s a lot easier now with some of the new ways to do it. Me… I just pasted what was in my XP11 folder over and it worked in 12. I mainly just like to cruise around California on X-Plane. But MSFS is the greatest for global flying. Cheers!
@@PoochAndBoo That’s not really true.In MSFS you will need much more addons, alone for the airports that are not at all as good and acurate as in default-XP12. Never had i spent and installed as many airport-addons as with MSFS2020. In XP, with Autoortho and simheaven alone you can make the sim looking quite similar to MSFS (at least above 5000ft) and with the default airports looking better. So less addons at the end.
I have actually bought nothing for MSFS2020 but some airplanes. I'm pretty happy with the default world in that sim. And the XPLANE default airplanes are terrible looking. I tried the demo. Most looked completely unchanged from XPlane11. And for some reason, add on planes in XPlane are much more expensive. It's good to have choices, and mine is MSFS2020. And the upcoming 2024.@@frankbyte
I've heard that X-Plane is more realistic than MSFS. Is this true, or are they fairly equal when it comes to the pro's and con's of each program?
yes its true, ive spent many hours on both and the physics and realism on x-plane is 10x better the msfs, msfs does have really nice graphics and i love the pmdg 737
Plus X-Plane 12 has a much more complex list of failures you can practice. Wake turbulence, it has a good feel to it. I still use MSFS, and DCS. But XP12 is always worth it for to me for the free Zibo 737-800, the gliding, and the AirfoilLabs 172 is my favorite version of that plane. I think the A2A Piper on MSFS captures the feel of X-Plane. It’s like that sort of. Also the replay mode is much better.
It just needs more work with scenery but it’s a good sim.
well not really,its is still substantually more realistic,but mainly feels more real,the flying feels like flying,not a paper plane,so yeah its defo worth it
Night lights are really poor.. cmon
They used to be the top dog for night lighting. But MSFS has really captured what night looks like now.
X-plane is king
dead game. time to give it up.
Dead opinion. Time to give it up.
Fanboys of anything really know how to ruin it for others.
XPlane is dead. For flights from carriers you have DCS. For civil aviation MSFS.
And yet people still use it and make add-ons for it. Why do you have such a gripe with the literal existence of a piece of software?
@@aerofiles5044 you may compare quality , level and number of add-ons for xplane and msfs
@@deemdeem5916 yes, more and better addons for XP, sorry.
What do you think of an X-plane merger with MSFS?
You spreading rumors?
I wish XP would merge with a map company like Bing or Google.
@@TheFlightSimDeck Autoortho does the job pretty well. Not perfect but really a big improvement. And free 🙂
@@frankbyte Yeah, the primary factor that would deter me from flying on Xplane was the fact that I'd have to spend an extra 10-20 minutes to download Ortho tiles for the sector. But now, it's just a matter of which one I feel like flying.
😂😂😂
However good the graphics are XP isn’t visually better than MSFS, and this should not be a matter of opinion. XP excels in flight model but flying on 21” screen sitting on office chair and using mid-level gaming joystick I can fairly judge both sims can reach max.20% realism compared to real world flying anyway. So let’s say MSFS is real enough for me.
Yes XP is not visually better. not for the most part anyway. Certainly not from the default scenery in general. But it has its moments where the lighting is very true to life. There are only 2-3 places I’d rather visually see in XP vs MSFS. I’m still into XP mainly because I’ve used it for about 8 years now. So I know my way around the plug-ins needed and I have some purchased planes and scenery. But nothing wrong with MSFS. I just encourage people if you can, try to feel the other sims like DCS, Aerofly, IL2. It’s really cool to feel the physics differences. Those differences still come across even with a mid to cheap joystick.
I agree. Some effects are better in XP. Especially I like trees and how they change by the seasons. Light, partially yes, however cockpits are usually too dark. Roads and infrastructure look like a clip art.
I’m a long time simmer too and there are amazing things happening in this genre nowadays. I just put too much money on MSFS addons so I tend to launch it more often…
When i look at xp12... All i see is p3dv5
When i fly with MSFS all i notice is that planes fly like in GTA V.
@@frankbyteA2a Comanche in msfs flies more realistic then any plane in xp12
@@majoraviatior1611 With a non-MSFS flightmodel lol. This tells everything we need to know about MSFS’s one.
Bro wtf 💀
@@frankbyte not really. Flysimware products, just flight products, black square products, the Fenix sim a320 and pmdg 737 all have great dynamics. Flight deck to sim said that the pmdg 737 handles more realistically in the air but zibo takeoffs and lands better and has better ground handling that’s why I included it
*Promo SM*
Why do I feel there is a bit of sarcasm in the title, honestly 19:39 is the only time I felt graphics belong in 2024.
You‘re right. All others looked like graphics from 2028.
I like many things about X-Plane, visuals are not one of them, but I honestly believe fanboys like you are the reason X-Plane developers are lazy and live in a bubble. Unfortunately if they continue like this, in few years the customer base will diminish and everyone will lose@@frankbyte
@@ammarbader3068 I could even agree and everyone knows that default graphics are better in MSFS in general. But what is bad for you is that in this very video the visuals look clearly quite awesome, making your statement appearing off (talking about fanboyism). Many things look better in XP, like the photometric lighting who looks more natural. Why do you think MSFS-users wanted to have the same? (see wishlist in MSFS-forum)? And with some addons XP looks as good or even better as we see here. Only very close to the ground MSFS still has an advantage with greater details, but at the costs of other cons like RWY-lighting, RWY-effects and default airports that are better modelled in XP.
XP default can sometimes look bad and outdated but at least base your comments on such images and not on those showing us the exact opposite.
@@frankbyte "You‘re right. All others looked like graphics from 2028." - If you are Steve Wonder then yes 😂😂😂
@@frankbyte You're back making things up. I am MSFS user and I don't want any of this in MSFS.
MSFS is way better than this
I use MSFS too. But XP has some things going for it that MSFS does not. More on the technical side of flying and a very robust failure system. The feel doesn't translate to video. You can't just fly behind a 747 like you can on MSFS. There are consequences. It's just not all about graphics sometimes. Plus it has the best 737-800 as far as I'm concerned, and it's free. I'd still rather fly that over the $70 PMDG version II have.
@@TheFlightSimDeck auto ortho sucks, and default scenery sucks even more...x plane is dead.
@@LATENGOGRUESA30 This is why I normally ignore these comments. It’s like talking to a piece of drywall. I didn’t mention ortho in my reply? I don’t care about scenery because I use MSFS, DCS. There’s more too it than scenery guy. You all have gamer mindset when it comes to this. You should see Condor 2. Looks like it’s from 2003 but it’s the only trusted sim of glider pilots because it’s closest to real world gliding physics.
@@TheFlightSimDeck no thx fbw a320 is better than ffa320.. and its free... rip x plane as i said
@@LATENGOGRUESA30 XP has increased its market share in the last navigraph-survey and XP12 is the most succesful version of XP ever released so far (source Laminar) and they are hiring even more people. LOL. RIP your comments.
Whoever believes Xplane 12 is superior to MFS needs to turn on their monitors.
Graphically yes most of the time… but in terms of aircraft wake, complex failures list, overall feel it’s pretty good. I wouldn’t compare it. Just a solid flight simulator.
I personally have no doubt that XP12 is a better simulator (except for very beginners who are new in the flightsim-world). As everybody knows, vanilla MSFS looks graphically better and I don't think anyone will dispute that. But that is more or less the only relevant advantage. The difference is that XP can easily be improved visually as we see here but MSFS cannot have better flight dynamics, realistic turbulence's in stormy weather, get a weather radar, have cold temperature correction simulated, precipitation effects, get a pass-bye camera, have a better zoom, be as easy to install, and many more.
It's not just about looks, although if you spend a bit of time adding Ortho and SIm Heaven, it looks comparable to MSFS as it's real world scenery. Just a shame it's not built into the sim.
@@skybluerob1 This is a case with most flight sim items. They go the all the way in certain aspects only to let fall short in others. In respect of Xplane it is flight dynamics but fall short on scenery and with MFS it the other way around. Hardware is the same, one could purchase flight sim hardware which is excellent and quite expensive only to have missing features such as backlighting etc. The technology and know how is there to have an all singing all dancing sim.
@@frankbyteThe MSFS weather, flight model and physics will be completely revamped in MSFS2024 (in collaboration with real world pilots and aircraft manufacturers) so it'll be interesting to see how well that works once it releases. MSFS2024 essentially uses a whole new engine built from the old one. MSFS2020 already uses a system that's similar to blade element theory in XP, it's just far less mature. I'm personally hoping that the improvements in 2024 will make the flying feel more in line with XP.
Thought I would give Xplane 12 another try, but after spending a whole day down loading it, trying to set it up, buying my Favorite A320, I finely with some effort got the settings kind of correct only to find I had to download a heap of plugins to get my flight underway then only to find I could not get a pushback for the life of me. Apparently you need another plugin. So disappointed.
Once you do all of that, then it’s done though. What you described is my experience with every sim. Loading in add-ons, dialing in settings. I made a video recently of all the things to get it started. The pushback app is really good. Just needs to be copy and pasted in the plugins folder.
@@TheFlightSimDeck Yes thanks , think I will have another try after a good nights rest.
Xplane still looks like garbage.
MSFS all day all night. X-Plane 12 is a fail and I only fly 2 aircraft in the whole sim.
A « fail » that has increased its numbers of users in the last year and has been the most succesfull version of XP ever (in the 18 months since release; source Laminar and navigraph-survey) and Laminar growing (hiring more people). Yeah sure, keep telling yourself that. It’s always entertaining to read such failed comments.
Fake, this is a total misrepresentation of the Sim for the average gamer, they will see nothing that resembles this nonsense, its just self indulgent tripe
First TWO clips are default scenery + default plane, next is default plane + ortho/default, next is free plane + default scenery. So no, it's not at all far off from a user experience. It's very much watered down from what the average user may mod. They're going to buy planes and add ortho tiles to some places.