The Lando Norris Dilemma
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Oscar has the better temperament, he doesn't get too high or too low while Lando wears his heart on his sleeve.
That would confirm their status as rookies coming into F1. Lando was considered a solid prospect but not the best in the class whereas Oscar was basically touted as a generational prospect before he even entered the grid.
That's one way of saying spoilt immature childish brat.
Okay? Max Verstappen. Ever heard of him? Horrible temperament
hes so level headed and down to earth, well reflected in his racing style
@@rudyhommen1823yes but commits less mistakes
I personally feel Oscar has a higher ceiling than Lando. His race craft is amazing, decent qualifier and would only keep getting better. Most of all, amazing temperament.
Yeah. Top level mental game for Oscar. Lando lacks confidence. Oscar has exactly the right amount
I think he is a good qualifier. Lando is just an amazing qualifier that’s because he look more bad than he is. And also it’s like every race under 0,1s between lando and piastri so it’s nearly at one level but lando always habe that one more thing…
Oscar just looks like a WC in the making
Good for him. Max verstappen? Horrible temperament
If you listen to his radio you also get the feeling that he has _excellent_ race awareness about what other people are doing. He's just so cool
Reminder Oscar has only 1 year and a half of experience .... let that sink in
Wait, who left the sink outside in the first place? Come on everybody, the sink stays in!
It’s true, I’m the sink. It’s cold out here.
In F1 yes, not racing overall.
@@aj897 thanks captain obvious
i hope he will fight for the championship next year and win it, he really deserves a championship we don't know about 2026 and if mclaren will be fighting for the championship and i really hope he will get his chance, he's my favorite behind lewis and charles
If Piastri ever wins the WDC I imagine his over the line radio would sound something like "Cool" 😅
He would say Thanks for the car guys, and continue with his day
He would say “OSCAR”
Bwoah
@@LeonThe69ok no this is literally what I was going to say. He’d be like “yeah thanks guys”
nah he would just nod and say "nice"
Lando still has the upper hand overall due to his extra experience, but Oscar is catching up and fast.
And right now, Oscar beating Lando in the standings seems more realistic than Lando winning the title over Max.
no he doesnot . when it comes to WC material OSCAR has it not lando
@@nothngspermanent Right now, Lando is up on Oscar, that is a fact, who is more likely to win a WC is hypothetical and whilst I back Oscar, this is not fact, what is fact is the standings.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blankslando has 32 points over him, with the races left, Oscar can overtake him
@@marcuslouvierF1 He can and I believe he will, more likely than getting anywhere near Max anyway, but he hasn't yet, hypothetical ≠ fact.
Very likely ,outraced max is a tough task except if Redbull fcked up on strategy they are far better than McLaren strategically even if the car is bad as a team RB is better
Oscar is mega talented. But his biggest advantage is his mental game. Oscar is an absolute iceman and driven to win. And he never lets the events of a given weekend get him down.
Lando doesn't have that same mentality. There's a nervous energy about him and he is extremely self critical in interviews. I get so uncomfortable watching someone beat up on themselves. Oscar is so much more level headed.
Have u ever heard max verstappen speak before. Honestly max usually blames the team lmao
@@rudyhommen1823 I might be too dumb to read, but where in the comment did max play a part?! Stop bringing Max and Lewis up in every god damn discussion!
@@keschbo ur just too dumb to read, or maybe comprehend. Anytime someone brings up his calm mannerisms I just say well max is an absolute hot head so if max can be emotional and get the job done… thennn
@@keschbothat’s like what max said when
*gets slapped*
@@keschbo Yea actually reminds me of Lewis back when
Gets a punch to the jaw
Oscar was quick, but unable to manage tyres. He went away and addressed it, and now is great at it. His race craft and ability to learn quickly is scary good.
Yep, it would seem he's getting better with the tyres. The mechanical grip of the ever improving McLaren is a great help too.
Oscar feels like a more mature and level-headed driver than Lando. To me, at least.
Max verstappen
@@rudyhommen1823 Max Verstappen
@@VredVIIMax Verstappen
@@rudyhommen1823 Max Verstappen
@@sw33tendMax Verstappen
Yes he is. Oscar is the better driver
😂😂 no
@@hueyfreeman7010yes.
Oscar has a lot more going for him in the long term
He still hasn't shown his maximum potential
@@hueyfreeman7010oscar may not have as much experience as lando but he’s already at the level if not higher than lando
Pal, Lando's been consistently fighting for race wins, and most of the time, Oscar hasnt even been on the podium most of the time.
For years now the narrative has been 'Lando's getting there, Lando's getting there', but I feel like a world champion level driver almost always 'gets there', and is up to speed, very quickly, like in 1-2 seasons. Some examples:
- Hamilton fighting for the title in his rookie season.
- Verstappen winning his first race with RB.
- Vettel winning Monza in the wet with a Toro Rosso.
Or look at how quickly Leclerc got poles and wins in his first season with Ferrari, or how Piastri won a sprint race in his rookie season.
I just don't see it with Lando. Don't get me wrong, he's very fast and talented, but something's missing.
He could've won Sochi 2021 and should've won Monza 2021 (Ricciardo won ffs!).
We were always told that as soon as Lando would get the fastest car, the wins would be coming in. But that's not the case is it?
I think Verstappen, Hamilton and even Leclerc would've won more races in that Mclaren, and those are the drivers you're up against.
Like, some people are still acting like he's a beginner, but he's in his 6th season now!
I fully believe Russell would've done a lot more in that McLaren than Lando this season. He has as many poles and wins (actually should have more wins without the DSQ) this year as Lando, despite having a car that can challenge at the very front far less times than McLaren
"Lando's getting there, Lando's getting there" - hes petted like that because hes British..
@@mirex61 He's also always had a sorta childish, appeal-to-teens outward persona which I think plays into that. Contrast to say Charles who's out here composing piano music and has a far more mature persona, again at least outwardly, than Lando.
@@__vx3 all i can say this is fault of biased British media and especially skysports..
@@__vx3 he's called Landotd for a reason
Schui, Mika, Seb, Lewis and Max have all demonstrated the importance of converting poles into wins by using pole position to get in front of the pack and using the clean air to control race from the first stint.
If you listened to Oscars radio, the after race interview and cool down talks, he mentioned clean air a lot.
"Clean air is king"
Next race will be interesting.
That's exactly what oscar did in Hungary, take the lead and control the race. Something lando was never able to do.
@@danieldorn9989 Oscar is slowly learning how to take care of his tyres on a full race. He's always been rapid in sprints or rain affected races (could have won Silverstone if it wasn't for the botched pit strategy) because there's no need to worry about them but now he's starting to put the pieces together. Understanding the impact of clean air on tyre life is probably what will take him to the next level.
The cooldown room bit from Hungary is even funnier considering Lewis won the very next week while Lando was nowhere to be seen. 😭
It’s nice to see Lando be properly humbled in real time.
Fr he's a cocky driver with 104 less wins then lh
are you really still this butthurt that an annoyed person acted like an annoyed person.
@@gothicusmaximus5697 The lh cult don't take things lightly
@@gothicusmaximus5697 it's lando that seemed buthurt when lewis only complemented his car and didn't mean no harm, while lando got mad for no reason, of course people will laugh at him cause he's mouth seems bigger than his talent, he's got one win and acts like he's a champion he's got humbled
@@gothicusmaximus5697 Honestly, this time Lando has just proven them right, by fumbling multiple important races in succession with the best car.
Lando wants to be Batman, when he really acts like Robin
Yes!!
Looks like Tarzan, acts like Jane.
@@ribeqahh that's George Russell 😂
@@eoincassin4265 nah bro look a lando's bulldog lookin ahh face
😂
I think Oscar is more talented of the two. But I also think that he knows that he's not expected to fight for the Championship at the moment and that's why he seems so calm and collected.
DID YOU SAY? THINK I don't think I know
@@chrishalious8194 Was trying to avoid angry LN4 fangirls
@@milseq lol the ln4 fangirls are a pandemic at this point
Oscar is a beast. His composure is that of a seasoned vet. That kid is different.
With all the information and post race analysis of the past 3 races, if pit strategy was optimised, Oscar would have won the past 3 races in a row.
Correct.
Hamilton was given a championship contending car is his first race, with Fernando fucking Alonso as his teammate. You are telling me Lando with 5 years of experience is struggling to win and stay focused mentally. As compared to Hamilton who I believe had almost 2 seasons worth of kilometers in the unlimited testing era of 2007. Oscar with 1.5 years is doing a phenomenal job of staying focused and cool. His pace is just slightly away from Lando. Lando needs to get his shit together and fast, he will regret losing on this opportunity like Sochi 2021 race.
Just to say in those days.. EVERY DRIVER got testing time not just rookies. It’s not like two time champ Alonso came back from holiday and hadn’t driven for four months. 😂
It’s funny how we always compare drivers to the best of the best. Why aren’t we comparing Lando with Jenson Button? Or Jacques Villenuerve?
Bro you're telling me that Lewis the rookie got more testing time than Alonso the world champion? Yea right blud....
@@aaronyoghurt9210 looks like you didn’t read my post at all! 🫢
@justinburley8659 Exactly, only way of Norris ever winning a championship is if he pulls a Jensen Button with a superior car and even than. He most likely will fall behind of Piastri.
Piastri/Norris gives me heavy Verstappen/Ricciardo vibes. Norris will beat his younger emerging teammate narrowily and then Oscar will break through next season.
What surprised me the most was how he sniped at Lewis in the lobby after the race in Hungary. I know it wasn't easy, but that was pretty nasty. Here's where Geroge and Charles shine. These two are awesome fellas. Russel got disqualified in Spa, and what did Charles have to put up with Binotto? C'mon.
George and Charles have been so classy when they've been misfortunate. I don't get how they do it tbf.
@@tanya__________ pretty much. Awesome characters.
Yea he seems like a nasty dude.
Most racers are ,it comes from karts
Yup, it's quite clear Oscar is that guy. He's built like Leclerc. From 2025 onwards he will be McLarens no1 driver
I've been saying this for several months but folks don't believe me and think i'm just hating on lando lol.
Oscar has higher potential than Charles
He already is
@@Uzair_Of_Babylon465 No. Oscar is a really great driver and he have great potential but if we compare Charles's 2nd year with Oscar's 2nd year, Charles is miles ahead of Oscar and also Mclaren have the fastest car since Miami meanwhile Charles had the fastest car only on 2-3 tracks. And let's not forget against who was Charles competing at that time as a teammate and against who is Oscar competing.
@@Uzair_Of_Babylon465 Relax. we saw charles who was the youngest ferrari driver ever in his debut ferrari season destroy a 4x world champion.
Lando Norris is currently better, Piastri will likely grow to be better and has better potential in my opinion.
It's getting pretty close
It’s almost like lando is ricciardo and Oscar is max. Norris has the upper hand but once he reaches his prime Oscar will be much more complete
@@nickyptv7258 am I tripping or did you just say lando norris is max and riccardo
@@overtheatlas Nope, you are not. They mean Oscar is Max though.
@@Idk-ys7rt I assumed as much
Oscar is a bit more like Seb, Kimi, Max and Lewis. He is calm and always has a cool head. Land is just much more impulsive and can’t handle with pressure.
Lando seems to be too emotional to use his potential. He basicly stopped fighting after the first corner mistake on sunday.
Oscar on the other hand is a cool cat which helps making the best of bad situations.
that's not true. He was fighting, Max was just better.
He was fighting for sure, but the emotions got the better of him.
Yeah Lando has the Sergio mindset where one mistake snowballs into 10. Likes of Hamilton, Verstappen switch to a damage limitations mindset immediately and start a recovery drive for the ages. I think it's not just a drivers loss of confidence although and I think this is where race engineers or the best ones shine. I don't think Lando has a good race engineer that knows how to communicate with a racers mindset. When the driver is dejected and is in a doom spiral because of a mistake you have to give them a series of easy to achieve red meats they can chew on if that makes sense. For example giving up the spot in Hungary; Will Joseph wasted valuable time emotionally manipulating a driver and breaking their confidence by putting them in a villain role. What Will Joseph should have done is convince Lando that giving the spot back immediately would have him capable of passing Oscar cleanly in the remaining 20 laps. A driver would go for that as if it was their idea ... Will Joseph never tried convincing Lando that a win was possible by giving the spot back early and doing the pass. At Spa Will should have given Lando the information on Oscar to get Lando's competitive juices flowing instead of settling behind Max.
No, he did not stop trying. Lots of dirty air, DRS trains. Even max couldn’t get ahead after he reached like 6th place
What he needs is a sports therapist
You do make good points. I also find Norris’ interviews to be really glass half empty.
Where Charles beat himself up and it made me worry for him, he never felt ‘negative’ which is the vibe Norris has been giving me all season.
Lando looks depressed nowadays in ways that not even Charles during the 2022 Ferrari disasterclass looked
@@Robalexe yes exactly! That’s exactly what I was comparing it to. Charles would beat himself black and blue, but you could always still see the fight in his eyes. Lando just seems depressed.
this summer break has hopefully come at a good time for Lando
Yeah Lando needs a sport therapist ... he's one of those people you think that would be helpful for. Beating yourself in public is just not a good thing as it gives your opponents and media the tools to your destruction. Also this emo phase of Lando when they have the best car is disrespectful to the whole team that toiled away in obscurity to built this rocketship. I think he's coming to terms with Oscar's accelerated growth and maturity in real-time but Lando needs to get his head out of this pity party and realize the constructors is on ... forget Oscar forget everyone; only goal this season is fight for constructors so go and work towards that.
@@mabdinur85 yeah I completely agree with all of this. And you’re right actually, it IS disrespectful to the team that built him this amazing car. Looking depressed when you’re in P2 and acting like a child during pre agreed team orders (which he could still have won from by RACING OSCAR after the swap - McLaren have said that emphatically) is just putting down all the hard work that everyone is doing behind the scenes.
With Charles he’d only go off on himself about specific mistakes he made, it never felt like he was straight depressed. That’s what Lando has been giving off lately.
If lando had it in him i dont think it would even be a discussion. Piastri has 4 less seasons experience and is matching and beating lando in the same car.
All Lando has above Oscar is experience, which has shown over the last year and a half. I'm willing to bet next year if McLaren have the best car again (or one that can fight for the title), Oscar would be the one to win rather than Lando (if either of them wins).
His tire management is also definitely a step above Oscar's at this point. I don't see Oscar beating Lando over a full season just yet and probably also not next year, but time will tell.
@@MiBe91 Tire management is about experience, which is what Lando has over Oscar. Oscar has not had tire management issues for a few races now
Lando will not be in contention for a world championship until he sorts out his poor race starting. He has won pole 5 times and has not led at the end of lap 1 on any of those occasions.
Lando has always had good race starts (Not so much recently, due to a drop in form). He has always got pole in the worst tracks.
In Spain, there was a head wind, meaning slipstream would be more extreme going to turn 1, and a slightly worse start than Max didnt help at all.
Same for Hungary. No headwind, but it is an EXTREMELY long run to turn 1, meaning he was never going to go into turn 1 alone unless someone in 2nd or 3rd completely fucked their start. Says a lot that Max got a worse start than both McLaren's that race and STILL got side by side into turn 1.
His race pace is pretty good and Lando manages his tires pretty well.
But his starts and racecraft are lacking, specially against Verstappen.
Agreed ... there is a lack of aggression and plenty of hedging to survive T1 as if he's in the midfield trying to survive that melee. His mindset to cover and avoid is not what the front mindset is about. The front mindset is about capturing the fresh air, boxing out someone trying on the outside, hanging it in there when someone is on the inside, racing towards the perfect spots to get tows or defending that corner. Lando has learned most of his race starts from the midfield days of McLaren ... starting at the front it seems Oscar has more relevant experience coming in from F2. Oscar sending it twice (Hungary and Spa) down the inside and Lando yielding and literally at Spa ducking to the outside compromising his race seems like Oscar got the measure of him on race starts. Also Lando has slow get aways and his team may have chosen a race start engine maps that saves tire life where he brings it in slowly but they surely know some tracks position matters more like Hungary.
@@hamiltonburnham7979 Not a good stat is it. He doesn’t tend to handle the pressure moments well.
@@bill4665 you're WRONG Fella\ - very very wrong.. Lando is abysmal in the early laps.. I like the guy but his voice says it all - he needs to grow some .....
I am just yapping. Oscar won Formula euro then won F3 then won F2 in legit like 3 years. Him coming over to faster cars, bigger cars, and more pressure. It was only a matter of time before Oscar got the feel of the car and how to handle the tire degradation. With Mclaren now at the point with the car where they can win races the whole team has been dropping the bag with Lando leading the bag dropping but Oscar has been use to winning before his rookie year and now he has that feel again of "i can win this race" I dont think he can drop the bag like Lando has. The mentality in Mclaren and with Lando are synced while Oscar is legit an outlier to Mclaren
Oscar is the one who drives/behaves like he has been in f1 since 2019 but he doesnt even have two full seasons of experience. As soon as he catches up to Landos pace there wont even be a discussion about who is the main driver.
HE ALSO HAS A TOP CAR FROM HIS ROOKIE SEASON.
My belief is if Max had this years McLaren, we'd be witnessing 2023 all over again. Lando needs to work on his race starts and McLaren NEEDS to sort out their "oh shit, we're in front, what do we do now" mentality
Don't be silly. The Red Bull last year was dominant throughout the season, to the point where even Perez finished runner-up. The Mclaren this year has been marginally the best car on a couple of circuits. Big difference.
@@thanekrios3211 my point is, it really doesn’t matter if you have the best or worst car, being the better driver matters most in tough situations
Max would be winning the title right now in that McLaren. Not only because he's clearly better but also because there would be no other Max in that tricky ass Red Bull car.
@@montruo000000007 Then perhaps you should have articulated that point (not that I agree with it) rather than the '2023 all over again' hyperbole.
@@thanekrios3211 if max had McLaren car performance in Red bull this year, he would destroy his old record of 10 wins in a row, but when Red bull was making a car they didn't listen to Adrian Newey so its their own fault, but they could just be preparing for the next season because Adrian Newey is leaving...
Oscar is definitely further along than Lando was at the same time in their own respective careers. If there’s anyone to challenge Max for the WDC, going forward i would put Oscar atop of the list. He has the temperament of a 10 year vet. Never gets too high or too low.
He's been soundly beaten last year by Norris. He's getting beaten this year by Norris. He's losing qualifying 10-2. What exactly are you basing him being the number one challenger to Max on?
@@thanekrios3211you don't really understand F1, do you?
@@OnlineHipHopTV Ah, the "you don't understand F1" fallback. Always useful when you don't actually have a point to make. Thanks for your contribution. Utterly worthless.
Lando could learn a lot from Oscar's temperament. Don't winge, compain, blame others, and beat yourself up. Lando is the better driver atm, but not for too much longer.
Further along. Yeah u muppet he’s had a championship contending car almost since he got here. Lando didn’t have that until right when Piastri did as well
What shocked me about Lando was his belief in Hungary that he could compete with Max for the title. He actually said he was in a title fight with Max whilst not wanting to yield for Oscar. Max is in a totally different league to him, way more ego than talent.
He didn't even seen to believe it himself. He was told the championship doesn't matter, and he said "..it does to me... maybe.." I mean, what's that supposed to mean.? Are you fighting for the championship or not?
Well. Hate to break it to u but numbers wise he absolutely can compete for the WC. About 6 points per race more than max every race until the end of the season and he would win
@@yt_Ajay_wtf r u even talking about it. That’s not even what was said on the radio. He said the fact that they pitted him first didn’t matter cuz he would have to give the position back anyways, and Lando was like well it matters to me. Cuz dudes in first now and he needed the points to chase max
@@rudyhommen1823 And if my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle
@@rudyhommen1823 lmao, 6 points lead per race would mean lando has to win every races left of the season, and well the most recent grand prix max just extended his point gap to lando while starting 11 while lando starting 4
I'm new to f1 but think you hit the nail on the head when you said Oscar has had some better moments that have given you more confidence in him. Especially when it comes to making the overtake he's had some very exciting moments that show how he could outperform Lando in 2025 if he continues at this rate. Ex:
- The move he used to pass Leclerc this weekend
- His start in Hungary
- Him paying attention enough for the pass in the sprint in Austria & then passing Sainz in the race
- His performance pre-safety car in Miami
- Not to mention his overall cool head throughout races
Maybe I'm getting over excited due to recency bias but he is overall just a super fun driver to watch!
Before landos shit last races, Norris was for sure more exciting to watch. Running up on max one week, fighting with him at the top row the next. But a few bad races and Oscar is farrr more qualified than Lando now. Well where is Oscar in the points, fifth? Lando isn’t second in the running for no reason, people are forgetting that this kid can race lol. Not u, just other on this app
Max verstappen has a horrible attitude almost all the time if he’s not in first, but Lando for sure needs better starts, and then to be more aggressive in certain moments in the race if he wants to pass max by the end of the season. Which he can do if he does those things. I think Norris will continue to have the better pace this year compared to Oscar
Yes and it doesn’t take rocket science to figure that out. Norris is an overhyped midfield driver with nothing about him. Oscar is a season and a half into his career and is at Lando’s level already! The potential far exceeds Norris by a country mile.
At Lando's level is premature asf.
Lando is better in every single aspect, except... Eh, potential?
@@caydenph2741 Lando was NEVER good.
@@FH4Player6397 bruh, this is just rage bait atp
@@FH4Player6397he is good, just Not outright excellent.
And then despite being in a McLaren has been in no mans land since Sainz left. Ric was never comfortable in MCL.
Last year they were clear 2nd, faster than merc & ferrari but nowhere near max.
Now he finally gets experience of actual competition & pressure.
Wouldn’t say that. Norris is a excellent driver and more excellent qualifier but Oscar is just one class over it.
I think everything about Piastri screams future world champion.
He is literally that generational talent. Like Max, he crushed every level of Jr. racing he was ever involved in. He knows and more importantly expects to win. He's not intimidated by any of the other drivers.
He also has that kind of calm and cool demeanor that, when they finally put it together, are just unstoppable going forward.
Honestly, Lando is a piss baby and Max owns his shit. He's fast but he's not made of the right kind of stuff to be a champ.
I disagree. He screams multi world champion. I said in a previous comment I expect at least 5 titles but actually think that's a bit conservative. Honestly would not be shocked if he passes Lewis/Michael/ (maybe Max?) in total title count.
@scotturbanski740 I think anything is possible but predicting how much someone will win in F1 is tough because of the requirement for competitive equipment.
How good was his balls of steel move in Hungary !
Totally agree mate you said it all thanks cause now I don’t need to say much at all. I’m usually always up for a bit of writing However I’ve been writing for the last 12 hours and I’m getting tired and still I’m suddenly in a flow and it’s hard to stop. George will win next yeas WDC but not too far ahead of Oscar and then it’s time to Oscar to show the World what true Aussie grit and determination is and just beat down on everyone who dares disturbs his flow. He’s already faster than Lando fundamentally and poor Lando should’ve won 5 of the last 6 races but he’s got a severe lack of Mental Fortitude and zero % killer Instinct and they are the two most important elements to an athlete who is good to go on and become the best. That’s why George will win in ‘25 then Oscar will dominate for a few years and beyond Oscar there really isn’t anyone special that I can see but Oscar is young and could win 10 WDC Titles and become the new undisputed GOAT. I don’t have a crystal ball and I’m not psychic but I guarantee that George and Oscar will both win the next two WDC Titles or the two of them may win the next several tbh cause Max won’t hang around at Mercedes with George beating him cause that’s 100% happening and Lando and Charles don’t have what it takes to be a Champion and it’s really that simple so how many can they win certainly until 2030 I can’t see any competition for them not Kimi, not Olli, nobody. They are the two with the pedigree of course and clearly the mental fortitude required along with a healthy Killer Instinct that George showed in Spa it’s a shame that the tyres wore down so much and combined with the extra fuel and the plank wear from being flat through Eau Rouge and Radion is just a shame that they were light but had there been a normal cool down lap there wouldn’t be any discussion cause the pick up 1.5 in marbles easily enough so on any other Circuit with the same circumstances George babes 25-26 points and then the discussion is completely different. It’s unfortunate for George to have lost 50 points in 3 races but it’s not over with 10 races to go I see Mercedes winning 6-7 of them honestly with the majority in favour of George and Oscar I see him especially in Qatar and I’ll be there for that in my Papaya of course and 3 days later I’ll be in Abu Dhabi for the final race which I hope is for the title and winner takes all. If the Championship is over I’ll be highly disappointed but I don’t se Max currently finishing higher than 5th place but he might sneak a couple of sneaky podiums cause he’s Max but the car is abominable now Adrian has left and Max is mighty pissed cause this shit was never in the game plan it was supposed to be 4 5 easy easy ta very much 5 straight now let’s check out the point and squirt dynamically different cars to drive and adaptation is a major skill set that the best drivers in the World have and thrive on such challenges as the ability to drive in a variety of different styles to achieve their desired results with any given situation and it’s sorts the men from the boys and I’ll say this’King George’ easily the most adaptable driver on the grid and he’s so used to driving sh1tboxes that he’ll be very confident from the first lap I suggest and that factual and knowledge based opinion but I’ll bet it’s bloody close to being spot on and I’ll challenge anyone who has a vastly different opinion. Similar does count cause I’ve given myself a margin of error. Oscar will be in the mix and I don’t see Max on the grid after getting beat by George who stated to the World “ I’m faster than Max put us in the same car and I’ll prove it” George doesn’t talk shit he’s very candid and his filter is high his intellect is massive and he choses his words carefully and I know because I’ve met him and we actually spoke about that very thing at Tommy Hilfiger store in Melbourne this March 22nd after Qualifying and we spoke for a few minutes. I came from Albert Park after Qualifying but my son went and waited in line from 1045 was second in the que with his GF and waited till 7 when George arrived. He was great. My 16 year old son was shy to ask for a selfie so I told him your 2nd in line been waiting speak to him normally like a human and ask him what comes to mind whatever is natural but definitely ask he’d mind have a selfie so you can look back at the time you met your hero. He’ll talk to you he won’t bite. And sure enough him and his GF 2nd first guy was scared didn’t speak no photo and my son a GF go up and he’s asked basically straight away but George said let me have a go I’m not bad at this , they had a conversation for a minute and then he asked what if anything he’d like written on his cap, and his GF interpreted and says excuse me Mr Russell but are those Ferrari caps just behind you, you see I’d actually prefer one of those if you wouldn’t mind and they’re available I’m a big Charles fan but I’m a fan of the skill set that people display and your very quick and precise you’ve won lots to this point and you’ll do well if you stay on the right trajectory. I’ll be watching because my boyfriend is your biggest fan. Actually Mr Russell your biggest fan is up next and he called you King George and makes me say it if I’m talking about you. I seriously cannot believe but I’ve got this on my phone on video and he’s like of course I’ll write a message if you don’t mind and he signs and writes with Lve from Mr Russell think of me when the shadow is cast on Charles and he says something to my son about so do you know this guy and he says that’s my Dad he’s obsessed with f1 and he lives it breathes it and knows everything and the 3 years you were at Williams were painful cause even Lewis nor Mclaren we’re winning but his hopes were on you getting the seat and now he compels your drive a beep box at Mercedes to not like the one when you subbed in for Lewis when he had Covid. He was going crazy you should’ve won that race 3 times over he says and I never hear the end of the fact that your just unlucky in certain circumstances. He didn’t shut up, threw me under the bus and then they got all 3 in a photo I’m videoing and I’m up I said George what did my son tell you, if in fact that was my son. Apparently your a big fan and you’ve followed my carrier which I appreciate because you need that support and every little bit helps and it gives you belief and confidence. I just said sorry you didn’t get the same kind of opportunity as Lewis it would be nice to have that over him but you’ve got him covered you’d have Max covered if the car wasn’t a shit box in the current regs trust the new regs to have created havoc but I believe and you’ve prove that your World Class and in 3 years you’ll be top of the tree because RedBull won’t or can’t maintain this it’s Mercedes I’ve worked for Mercedes and their ethics are just to be the best and if your not don’t bother. I’m sure Toto sails that daily but you stay sharp I support you I spend time defending your ass frankly so let chat next year and I’ll pray you have a better car. You deserve it and you don’t need the best just goos right. You can drive anything good luck you’ve got big support and belief mate that’s for the pleasure of watching I’m here every year and usually around Asia or Middle East these days I’ll see you in Qatar and Abu Dhabi this year hopefully for a decider of the Championship. I’m backing you all the way to that title man and now I’ve met you I see it 100% your focused laser focused don’t lose sight of the target objectives and you’ll be fine I know. Well Done in advance. I hope we cross paths again Champ. And we stood and watched for a while he was only supposed to see the first 50 but he stayed and had to be practically dragged out after seeing over a 100 I’d say. Top bloke. I looked in his eyes and he’s totally on it in all of the time I’ve never seen such focus in another driver or sports person including Rodger Federer who I worked with as personal protection at the Melbourne Central roof top where he was giving tips and having a hit with 30 odd kids they just rotated after each shot and a couple of the say 16-17 year olds smashed the ball past him and he didn’t enjoy that but they were focused and and intent. Was great to watch. Everyone is human and deserves equal treatment unless they do you wrong then personally I cut them after one strike. Friends say I’m harsh I call it self preservation. That wasn’t supposed to go there but Ce la ve 😜
If LeClerc had Norris's personality and psychology, he would have quit F1 entirely. Leclerc has the mindset of a champion but the 3rd best car and Ferrari strategists, that mean he's lucky to get on the podium through no fault of his own. I like Norris but he's not quite the full package and his rough edges are not the ruthlessness of Max, but a negativity that LeCler and Hamilton have learned to block out.
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See this is an informed take idk y this coment section is full of people saying charles isnt mentally strong..
Leclerc has the mindset of a champion? Lol😂😂😂
Guy cracks under pressure, can't make decisions, doesn't ever question the team and dictate his terms even though he is the most secure driver in terms of not worrying about his seat.
He'll never be champion unless he gets a no competition car like the merc of 2020 or last year's redbull. Not even then maybe
@@Whatreally123 cracks unser pressure? Literally just drove a wheelbarrow to podium holding off TWO faster cars just last race . Just because he doesnt shout on the radio doesnt mean he doesnt say his piece He s Rightfully criticised the team when he needs and also can u find anyone on the ferrari team still employed there who wwe involved in the 22 debacle?? Just cause u r too stupid to perceive it doesnt mean he isnt changing things
@@Whatreally123 also this charles is not wdc worthy is such a shit take Like we get it u dont wanna be like the others and wanna have an edgy opinion but this just makes u sound ignorant
Since Oscar became F1 driver, I could see his talent right away. He is not only better than Lando, but he is better than most of the current grid.
Let's not forget that Piastri has been unbelievably unlucky at the start of the season. The gap in points between Norris and Piastri should be already be much closer.
the last 8 races prove how good Oscar has been - only gathering points from the last 8 races, oscar is second only to max in the championship, which is during the time when all the cars from Redbull to Ferrari are close enough to take points from each other
Comforting to see I’m not the only one that realised this. Sky Sports will never highlight these facts.
Noris will fold like a cheap suit when Piastri passes him in the WDC. I’m ready 🍿.
The difference between lando & Charles is that, lando was never competing with anyone, being in no mans land since 2021. whereas charles from his ferrari debut had to deal with lewis seb valterri & max.
Thats true, but Charles in his second year in f1 (while having 4 time world champion as his teammate) was doing way better than Lando currently, both emotionally and skill wise
I don't believe Lando is a bad driver all of a sudden, but I do think there are several factors that maybe explain these recent misses. The frustration of waiting for a good racing car for more than 5 years which makes him too eager to prove that he's championship material, but it makes him prone to mistakes. His own frustration with himself that he cannot be on top of the situation once that good car was "delivered" (maybe they didn't expect for that car to be that good this year). And a quick team mate that is not going to be accomodating and who will not be a traditional number 2 driver.
Also, mistakes are always easier to hide in the mid pack. Not so much when you are leading the pack.
I hope he has the right support by his side in order to reset and show what he's capable of.
Well said
F1 is a multi billon industry - How long to you give anyone? Lando needs to grow some, but I fear that it's too late for him now
@@CosmicSeeker69 Well, in this billion dollar industry, I would say that Lando waited quite some time for the team to deliver a good car...
However, now it's time for him to sort out whatever he needs to sort out in order to avoid silly mistakes that are becoming costlier. And that needs to happen sooner rather than later because race wins and champions are never guaranteed.
It's damming to see that Lando hasn't won a race on genuine pace this year even though McLaren have had a car for it for the last 6-7 races
Edit: 9 is even more damming
Make that 9
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I fully believe Russell would've done a lot more in that McLaren than Lando this season. He has as many poles and wins (actually should have more wins without the DSQ) this year as Lando, despite having a car that can challenge at the very front far less times than McLaren.
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Agreed. I think Lando has a more consistent baseline in terms of results -- Russell has a higher ceiling and a lower floor, while Lando has a higher floor but lower ceiling imo. Even then I'd argue Russell has improved consistency wise this season.
After the last two races, Piastri is extremely close. Norris has shown he is not ready to fight at the top really, he hasn't had a good race start in months and his pace was nowhere in Belgium. Piastri gets a pass for being not quite there yet since he is only in his second year, far shorter time so far than Norris.
to be fair to Lando, his pace was very good in Belgium but the dirty air and ineffective drs made almost every driver remain stuck behind others unless they had a significant tyre advantage or much less downforce
@@neosonixyz What about the dirty air Max came from 11 to Lando 5 and still got past him, dirty air is not a problem for Max?
@@chrishalious8194 max was already in p8 by like lap 2, dirty air is less of an issue with cars that are significantly slower, and also it was at the start, where the gaps are very small so drs actually gets you past. Dirty air was a problem for max once he caught up to Lando and for the rest of the race behind Charles
I like Lando, but the way Oscar navigates the start of a race is far better outside of team orders.
It's funny because it's nothing special just gutsy to hang it in there and not back down. Then you realize it's the rare talent that is able to do that while most concede the spot. He needs to keep a tighter line and do his corner let Oscar back out but Lando has a midfielder's mindset to avoid collision unlike a front row mindset where fresh air is king.
Lando was in full on brat mode in Hungary and now he's had a wake up call. He's not a good starter and his strategic thinking isn't as good as many of those around him. I hope he'll learn from it and sort himself out.
Yeah about the strategic thinking ... I 100% agree. Lando doesn't have the gutsy hail-mary approach like George or the clever scheming like Alonso, or the adaptable precision of Hamilton, or the massive aggression of Max with strategy. He's too tentative, apprehensive, hedging, indecisive on decisions. His race engineer while a good communicator is not adept at talking to a racer and incentivizing their competitive streak so the messages are muddled and mild mannered but not energizing or dense with information. One big issue is they have left Lando with too much strategic decision making when it should be the pitwall with the strategists they pay big bucks making these calls not a driver under duress. They need to give Lando space to operate as a driver and make input that influence strategy not expect him to make strategy. This has been the over correction from Sochi 2021, they need to reel back some of that strategy freedom back from the driver.
@@mabdinur85 I agree he shouldn't have to think about race strategy when there's a team behind him who just do that and see the bigger picture but the fact that some can do that gives a distinct advantage. I was gutted for George on Sunday but it looked to be his call on going that way and had Lando done the same he could have won the race!
That's what you get with a nepo baby
At the moment, he obviously seems like he’s the better driver. He’s the only one to finish all of the races this year. He’s consistent. I like the kid.
Going into this season I have always thought Lando was a great driver with world championship potential given the right car, so far this season has confirmed that I was wrong, and he is not on that level.
Oscar has less experience but he gives you the sense of security and certainty that you'd expect from the greats, Norris has more experience and flashes of brilliance, but feels like he cracks under pressure constantly, which isn't a bad thing,but Oscar with experience will be very hard to beat.
In the last 4 race weekends Oscar has scored the most points of any driver - 80 (equal with Lewis), while Lando has scored 49 and Max 58. In the last 8 weekends only Max (141) has scored more than Piastri (126), with Lewis (123) and Lando (116) behind him. McLaren said they would consider giving their top driver position over their number 2 in the last few races of the season if it might help win the drivers championship but at this rate maybe that will be Oscar.
I’m glad someone that ain’t me said it, absolutely Oscar is better, has a higher ceiling, is more decisive and clinical when overtaking and really more refined than Norris who I think is still too raw and error prone
i heard that Landos gran died just before the weekend so im willing to ignore his lackluster performance *this time*. but the trend is there
Yeah, he's only got one more grandma so if he's still struggling in Monza then I'm going to get worried.
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Yea the gran he dedicated his race win to in Miami. 😢 first grandparent loss is tough.
@@GirlOnBus damn. Can't believe he sacrificed his grandma for a race win. That's not sustainable if he wants to fight for a championship.
@@theblev2882 He just has to adopt new grandmas, I am willing to bet there are enough lonely old people out there who would love to be his grandma
Oscar's been playing the long game. Steadily improving, working with the team and keeping his head down. He's getting close to Lando's speed and he's clearly more level headed. At the very least, it sets up a fun team fight for next year.
Recency bias is a bit crazy, Lando has been consistently ahead of piastri all season and now with the last 2 races piastri is all of a sudden the better driver?
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It's not recency bias, Piastri has been showing indications all season long that he could have more potential than Lando. I've been saying it for the last 12 months, Lando is a fast driver rattled by everything, and Piastri is a fast driver rattled by nothing.
Piastri is better because his emotions are in check (Clear air is king). When Lando is crying and beating himself up, Oscar is moving on to the next race.
Honestly Oscar on silverstone and spa put on such a dominant performance. Ok he did not win in silverstone but he did not throw mclaren under the bus.
Imagine if Lando was on that position, not winning because they boxed his teammate and forgot about him.
I think what exemplifies Lando's personality was when Danny Ric was struggling, and Lando gave an interview saying something like "why do I have to help him? he's my teammate, but also a competitor" - it goes to show how self-centered he is in that he is unwilling to help the team. Only the British media hype him up as WDC material, but he doesn't have the mentality to battle.
Lando is good, he got 2nd as a rookie in formula 2. But Oscar, George, and Charles are all formula 2 champions as rookies.
Ive never seen them back down to Max, whereas it seems Lando doesn’t fight with him. The one time he did, they crash. He’s in his head.
"He's in his head...". Yeah, I've had that thought more than once. Maybe time to stop hanging out so much with Max?
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I agree, Lando has always come off as someone with a big ego and a bit full of himself, and now he's getting pressured by his teammate who has been here for less than half the time yet with the same amount of wins (plus a sprint win).
When has he ever seen egotistical. Genuinely curious, I’ve never seen him act in a way that would be seen as that other than some extremely rare moments
@@davis7428 I’ve seen him as egotistical since maybe 2020, when his fanbase got really big. It was far less then, but when you go watch that cooldown room in Hungary, you can see how he really is
Stupid video
@@davis7428 Disregarding literally all of Hamilton's wins by saying that that's just where the car should be, not Hamilton performing well. Now he has that kind of car, and he's not able to produce similar things. At least that's my take but maybe I interpreted it wrong
Oscar is the better driver. He is still new to F1 with far less experience in these cars. Yet he is performing already and being consistent and dealing with pressure. He will continue to improve. Oscar also has a very good attitude. Watch Norris throw his toys out the pram once Oscar makes that next step.
I think Piastri is the guy that many saw in Russell and see in Antonelli, he is very fast and able to deliever very strong and constant results in just his second year.
Yes, he has a very strong car, but he also is good enough to match its potential.
And he is always very calm and professional on the team radio, to me even better than Hamilton oder Verstappen who make good calls but sometimes freak out or blame the strategy publicly. Oscar never does that, he is always professional and polite.
The Belgian grand prix exposed that Lando still has a long way to go before he reaches Verstappen's level. He couldn't overtake Verstappen for so many laps with such a short distance between them, even with superior tires. If the roles were reversed, it would be a repeat of British grand prix.
He will never be on Verstappen's level. That level of driver comes once or twice per generation
The roles were reversed on the first stint and Verstappen couldn't overtake. Sure he isn't on Verstappen level, but the situation you're using to show that is just wrong.
The problem is that you are expecting Norris to be on Verstappens level. More likely he is on Jensen Button level.
Ok well u clearly don’t know racing works, dirty air, DRS train. Nobody was passsing anyone for awhile. Max and Lando both explained that in the post race
Ok well u clearly don’t know racing works, dirty air, DRS train. Nobody was passsing anyone for awhile. Max and Lando both explained that in the post race. And George even said when he got into the lead it was a whole different drive because of all that dirty air
Being a lando fan is difficult knowing he could have done much better but at the same time realising that Oscar is better than
Him is convincing that McLaren can still win drivers title with Oscar in coming years.
Piastri has ice in his veins...Lando is more erratic and less mature (although older). Oscar is better. McLaren management saw this, which explains their aggressive pursuit in signing him. Also explains why team orders do not tilt automatically to Lando.
5:25 yeah that interaction with LW was weird like very petulant .
in equal machinery Lando would get wiped by Lewis, Max, and Charles
@@peytonamick8879 Oh 100%. Destroyed even, smashed into dust. Lewis and Max especially would make him into a barbeque.
Unpopular fact. Lando is a Pay-Driver. Unpopular opinion. Lando is not consistently quick enough to win a World championship.
Landk is not a pay driver. By that logic, everyone besides lewis and ocon are pay drivers
Oscar has championship material.They should open his way.McLaren always sided with Lando.I think they should consider Oscar as a next year's title contender and let him experience podium and gp victories this year. Team broke his trust with letting Lando undercut Oscar and ruined his first gp victory but he continued like nothing happend.
We've seen Lando do this over and over, where he aggressively attacks the driver starting in 2nd place, costing both time and losing out to the drivers behind them
Oscar is better but Lando is a really good driver with more experience.
Next year Oscar is gonna be on top
Oscar is an honourary Fin. He's Australia's Iceman. He's has a season and a half of experience and he's chasing down the top 3 and making podiums. He has the makings of a champion. If he has the good fortune of being in teams that make a good car he will win a championship.
Lando is just an immature rich kid with a complex. He drives well, but that's about it, mid tier.
That whole uncomfortable McLaren radio back and forth to me was them knowing Oscar is better.
Yes. He understands the inner pinnings of race craft. He’s my go-to driver after Max. Mind of an engineer, balanced with situational awareness is top notch.
Oscar piastri should be the lead driver next year
Nah, Lando's been at the front of the grid every weekend. 4th has been his lowest start since Monaco. Meanwhile Oscar has finished outside the top 5 and missed out on slamdunk podiums due to poor qualifying or mistakes several times.
He even bottled the win in Spa bcs of his overshot pit stop which doubled his stationary time.
@@bill4665bro lando has bottled 8 race potential wins in a row 💀 imola, monaco, canada, spain, austria, silverstone, hungary, belgium
said every man who bases their entire outlook on the last race only. christ.
@@lilbackpain1924 Ok, and where was Oscar for those exactly? He was ahead in Hungary and Belgium (Oscar bottled the win by overshooting his pitstop in the dry pitlane which cost him 2-3 seconds), bottled the win as well but finished 2nd in Monaco.
- Bottled the win after the Max-Lando crash, was half a lap behind before that in Austria (btw Max took Lando out, how's that Lando's fault? 💀💀)
- Bottled the win in Canada - Never actually raced Lando in Canada and was comfortably behind.
- Bottled the win in Spain and was 7th (when the McLaren was the fastest car)
- Was 4th in Imola (got a grid penalty for impeding, and never even got close to Leclerc for P3 while Lando was fightinf 10 secs up the road from Leclerc fighting for a win) also, Lando didnt bottle this one, the Red Bull got a tow in Quali and it was impsosible to overtake.
- Bottled the win in Silverstone, a bad strat ruined both drivers races and Oscar would've got the better strat if he beat Lando in Quali or overtook him (He couldn't).
- Bottled the win in Miami, couldn't manage his tyres to the same level as Lando. He was forced to pit early when Lando was lapping upto 1.3 seconds a lap quicker than him at the end of the stint.
So, you see?
How can Lando be the only McLaren to have bottled race wins, if Oscar was further back than him 5 times out of 8... (And Oscar made mistakes in 2 out of those 3 where he was ahead of Lando...)
@@gothicusmaximus5697 Exactly...
It’s crazy to me how the narrative was always that lando was being failed by McLaren
But
The minute they gave him a car which is capable he’s bottled every opportunity.
Max, Lewis, Fernando, Charles, and even Carlos would win in this car
@@gameofender4463 how on earth did I forget his British father
He’s second in the drivers championship and he’s driving like shit rn. So what r u even talking about lmao
@@rudyhommen1823 you literally just stated my exact point.
He’s driving like shit and bottling every opportunity of a win. He loses 3-4 places on every race start and gets stuck in traffic.
He should be 40 ish points off of max, not what he is now
I think it’s quite obvious who has better tyre management, smarter calls, and a better mentality. Oscar is going to be contending for drivers championship in 2025
I think Lando’s attitude has been more disappointing than his driving. Yes he’s made driving mistakes, but he’s also been extremely good on occasions as well. That in part could be due to his mindset. He seems churlish over every mistake and lost opportunity. He’s had time to put some of these things right rather than brood over them. He seems jealous and petty around Lewis for example and that seems to be self doubt showing through. Piastri has the attitude of a winner. Not too emotional, clinical and analytical.
I'm sure it helps Oscar that Webber is his manager. His experience in the F1 world will go a long way.
That's petty ironic considering how many voices were raised to condemn Webber's handling of Oscar's entrance to F1.
@vickismith8608 Yeah, I didn't know much about that. Please elaborate for me.
I'm more referring to Webber's time at RB and the pressures that he had against Vettel, Marko, and to a lesser degree Horner. He did pretty well in such a toxic environment.
True. But the irony is on THEM. Can you imagine a talent like Piastri's being wasted in Alpine?
@vickismith8608 true talent done through no matter where they drive in F1. Hence why I think Norris might find it a problem leaving McLaren.
Contracts can be bought out, and if the major teams really want a driver, there isn't anything that'll stop them.
Oscar seems more mature than Lando for his age and time in F1.
Oscars mentality is prepared to be a championship winning driver . I get hints of that with Lando but not fully. I think if Lando doesn’t have a mentality change or some sort of performance change we are going to see Oscar out perform him next year and even end of this year.
Honestly, I think about 90% of Lando's problems are the start and the first half lap. If he can clean that up, he'll be in much better shape.
Oscar was slowly becoming one of my favorite drivers last year but this year he’s up there with Albon and Danny.
Dudes so fucking chill and composed it’s insane
I am a Lando fan so there may be alot of biase. While I will admit Lando really needs to work on his starts. He is still second in the championship and should get his due credit for what he has done. He has always gotten hate since he has joined F1 and always will but people tend to forget that he has had to work with cars that were subpar and he still somehow got results. Dont get me wrong I think Oscar is a great driver and will be great for McLaren. But I compare them to the Top Gun characters with Lando as Maverick and Oscar as Iceman. Oscar is more technical and precise while Lando is more willing to do what needs to be done to get the best result he can. Sorry if this seems like a rant but reading all the comments about how Oscar is so much greater than Lando is kinda annoying.
This feels like an overreaction from the last couple races tbh. The second half of the season will be telling imo
Lando is still more polished, but Oscar's fundamental pace is faster and his ceiling is way higher. Don't think we should be giving Lando shit though, he is a great racing driver, but Oscar is just in that elite category with Max, Lewis, Fernando and George.
GEORGE?!
@@ChrisStoneinator Yes. I've been hyper critical of him for not maturing quick enough, since he moved to Merc, but I think we are seeing him turn that corner now, and I think he hits the ground running as team leader next year. His potential ceiling is as high as Max or Lewis, given how much talent he showed as a junior. He raced against the strongest F2 field in a decade, and destroyed them all
I think Lando is a really good driver but his problem is his arrogance, ... He has been consistently downgrading other's achievements and you would usually see some sort of smirk and passive aggressiveness in his interview when talking about likes of Max's and Lewis's achievements even though when neither of these two has ever attacked him in press. He's the ringleader of those drivers that would downplay other driver's achievements (something you would expect only casual fan or trolls would do). Maybe jealousy or just pure upbringing leads him to do this. The ultimate outcome of his ridiculousness is the unwanted pressure he has brought on himself. I think he's gonna get way worse before he gets better. From his personality type, I expect him to now even double down on his behaviour, such as been defensive in interviews, blaming others and which will ultimately needs to more errors. He has to realise that he is not what he think he is yet, he needs to humble down, get mentorship and come back as a person of himself (a great driver with his unique style that doesn't need to invalidate others to feel worthy).
I always find it entertaining how much recency bias there is in F1. People like Max and Charles had people question theyre ability to win because they were writing their cars off which Lando hasnt done.
To me it seems like Lando's issue is not trusting that he'll have a race winning car long term. All of his mistakes have been centered on trying to be as aggressive as possible in chasing for the win instead of looking at the bigger pictures and maximizing the results. I think when truly he's confident in McLaren we'll see a more level headed driver, that we've seen make incredible drives time and time again.
I’ve literally never seen a Lando Norris drive that I thought was “incredible”. That’s exactly what he lacks. Zero magic, zero ability to pull something out of the bag when it counts. I’m no fan of Russell but we even saw it from him in Spa. So what’s Lando waiting for? Make something happen!
Recency bias is really speaking at the moment. Oscar is good but Lando is not bad is a true statement. Feels like Lando just got reason to show his teeth after summer break and he will be coming for blood.
In my opinion the best 3 drivers on the grid are max, lewis and oscar. The last 7 races backs up that point. Oscar and max are equal on points the last 7 races with Hamilton 3rd.
I'd put George in that mix as well. He's lost out Silverstone and Spa due to no fault of his own and would be ahead of Lewis in the standings if he didn't have such bad luck.
Oscar was F3 & F2 Champion 🏆. He knows what it takes to Win a race, fearless just like Max
I've always said it. Piastri is a Verstappen tier driver. Matter of time before he wins his first wdc
Oscar has more growth in him over Lando, and he is already matching Lando.
If I was in Lando’s shoes I would be looking for another drive at Merc
If Lando were to ever leave McLaren, I don't think Mercedes is the answer. Toto is absolutely in love with Kimi (and Max). The choices would be RB (if Max leaves), Aston Martin (if they're actually good once Alonso retires), and maybe Audi.
Oscar is so calm and composed. So polite when he talks. Its impossible to not like him.
Oscar has basically matched all of lando’s achievements in 2 seasons. He’s got 1 more sprint win than lando, they’ve both won a race, both gotten pole positions, both won driver of the day, etc etc. Only difference is that it took lando 118 GP’s to achieve all those and it took oscar 36.
Piastri hasn’t gotten pole yet.
@@Otsantos5 Qatar 23?
Maybe bc of the 118 GPs Lando had a bad car for like 80 of them...
@@FN-jr1tn Even with that argument, he had chances. Lando binned his chance in russia, couldn’t make it work at the end of 2023, despite oscar getting a sprint win, and now in undoubtedly the fastest car on the grid can’t seem to make it click.
no hes not better right now but he has a lot more potential imo for the future
Agree - Lando on one lap speed - awesome. Reactive not proactive. Oscar - complete package.
No idea, they are both very good. Piastri has had the edge in the last two races but Lando was having the better season. But for Max turning into him, Lando wins in Austria. If McLaren just put him on the mediums, he wins at Silverstone. If McLaren, don't try the overcut and then immediately bottle it, he finishes in front of Max in Spa.
Who knows what the future will hold in terms of development. Piastri looks like the real deal, but Lando was leading the way for McLaren for most of the season.
The idea that Lando is suddenly shit is ridiculous the margins in Hungary were incredibly as he demonstrated in the final laps disappearing down the road.
I think what McLaren have is two really good drivers, who will both improve as they get more wins under their belts.
And I say this as someone who finds Lando to be a bit of a tit, who still needs to grow up a bit. Piastri might have less experience in F1, but I think Lando has more to gain from age and life experience. Piastri already has a maturity that makes Lando seem emotionally volatile.
Wow, an actual well-balanced, sensible post in this comments section! I'm not a fan of Norris either, but some of the narratives - not to mention the imbecilic video itself - are ludicrous.
Lando should’ve taken the kerb in Austria, he should’ve taken the initiative at Silverstone, and he should’ve taken pole at Spa. He wants to be a champion but he’s not acting like one. These are all things that a driver like Verstappen or Hamilton would do (and indeed in the case of Hamilton at Silverstone, did do) that have a drastic effect on the championship.
@@ChrisStoneinator I disagree about Austria. He is on the limit on breaking, no one could suddenly react to the other driver turning left into him. Same thing happened to Hamilton at Silverstone in '21 and he got blamed for it as well. Max won't give up position and will just drive into people. There is no mitigating for that, as it is completely unreasonable behaviour.
Go up on to the kerb he's got a grip imbalance across the car making out braking impossible. Give Verstappen extra room and he would just have come further across on to a better racing line, making him faster and harder to put brake. Norris had to be where he was to make the overtake feasible.
Should he have waited for a later lap? Possibly but he had the tyre advantage then and we all know that they can disappear quickly because this generation of tyres gets hot and lose performance when a following driver starts sliding in the dirty air of a car they are trying to overtake. We saw that at Spa. Hamilton's first attempt on Russell was the closest he got. Each lap he lost just a fraction more time.
Austria is on Verstappen. He is a great driver and one of the very best ever on the brakes in a car highly regarded for it's stability under braking. He turned left deliberately. The only way you can ever deal with a guy like that is not to jump out of his way, otherwise you'll be his bitch for the rest of your career.
@@ChrisStoneinator With regards to Silverstone, yes, he could have said give me the mediums. However, the mitigation comes from the fact that a sensible driver he knows he is in the cockpit of a racing car and not sitting on a pit wall with all the data. He has to presume that the uncertainty of the team must mean that they have concerns over the pre race strategy. The are after all offering an apparent choice between the soft and the hard.
The main problem though is that McLaren make a classic mistake, they ask a leading question. Effectively, they ask, "Do you want race for the lead, who is on softs, or give up and protect against Verstappen, who is on hards?"
One can tell from Norris's intonation that he is taken back. Verstappen at that point is someway back and he was close to the lead. He initially goes I want to go towards the softer end. Not specifically the softs but he definitely doesn't want to give up and match the guy who is at that point a distant third.
So, yes he could have said, just give me the mediums. However, I put the blame more on McLaren for asking one of the worst questions I've ever heard posed to a driver.
@@ChrisStoneinator Should he have taken pole at Spa, maybe but he had a bad weekend, which can happen. He apparently had family bereavement and definitely seemed out of sorts all weekend. However, Piastri didn't take pole either. The car just wasn't the fastest in qualifying.
Oscar has become my favorite so far after Carlos because I’m Spanish so kind of biased there hehe. But what I like about Oscar is that he is calm and collected like Carlos, I think that’s what makes him stay focused and keeps getting podiums, he doesn’t let emotions or anger get in the way. He learn what most of us takes years to master and that is we have no control over the rest of the stuff we don’t control!
Oscar has something extra like all the greats smooth and fast 2:03
Now is as good as time as ever to come back to this, time to stop milking content based of knee-jerk reactions
I have been oscar's fan since he joined mclaren. I like how boring he is on camera but at the same time he's a completely a different animal on track n we can all see his improvement from time to time. now I think he's on lando's level n definitely will surpass him sooner or later. he is very calm, boring personality n does not care much abt fame, just like a stoic version of max or respectful version of kimi raikonnen
I don't think he's boring tbh. I think he has extremely dry humor and not everyone gets it.
He’s an Aussie that doesn’t need to flap his gums.
We just get the job done here not make a show of it first.
This is how we act when we don’t have insecurities.
I’m with you with the exception of the Leclerc worship. Piasti is a talent that could develop to the level of Verstappen or Hamilton.