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That's not how work study goes now days, in my school work study is basically you get paid from the state to do work at the school, its in option if state funding isn't enough, but you don't want to / cant afford to take out a/another loan. it's actually a pretty sweet deal if you can get them to hire you.
@@rickee9909 Yeah, I collab with folks on the Discord server for the brainstorming on the vids. It's so helpful to bounce ideas off of others. Makes it alot more fun!
My brother and I had a VHS tape of the Daredevil crossover episodes when we were little, and it made us fans of both Spider-Man and Daredevil growing up. Watching the rest of the series on Jetix/Disney XD are also fond childhood memories of mine.
Seeing a lot of people discussing the canonicity of the other 90s shows in this timeline. I will point out that Beau Demayo is doing a live Tweet in a couple days where he'll be answering questions, if y'all want to try to throw a reply out during it, maybe with enough of us asking he'll answer one of us!
@@markdarc0448 2 days when the new episode releases, there's not an official time for it but he was answering questions on and off all day last Wednesday, it'll be like that
This video was awesome! It would be rlly cool if you did timelines for other animated shows that came out before and after the 90s shows! It’s always neat to see how everything connects!
Thanks so much...really appreciate the positive feedback on the vid. Had a lot of fun putting it together and I agree, I need to look at some of the other shows around that timeframe and do the timelines and connections for those as well!
I was getting ready to put my 2 cents in incase the timeline didn’t work, but you nailed it!! It fits like a glove! I need Spider-Man 98. Love your work man! You’re insane for putting these together!
Yeah, I was honestly surprised with how well the timeline ended up. It was hard to nail down at points, but overall I think it flowed really well with the X-Men timeline. Thank so much for the positive feedback on it. Really appreciate it!
I remember watching a VHS with like, three episodes of this show when I was a kid. I absolutely fell in love with it. It wasn't until years later that I watched the full show and I still loved it
One note about the work study - it may have been for intersession or summer, when an unpaid intern could make sense, and move the timeline a little. Not sure, just a thought since I took those in college
Loved the amount of work that went into this! I do kinda wish it would've been broken down even further to figure out how to watch each episode of both series' in chronological order but this was still great. Love this kind of timeline content!
That's a cool idea to harmonize the two timelines together. Because I've broken each episode down by month it wouldn't be hard to do. I have the images for the timelines on the googledrive, if you ever want to try to create your own episode by episode watch order: drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1R_PrexMkTjYpQAraxlhzs2U5EPJEPioc. But honestly, it's also tough to know which episodes to watch first if multiple epsidoes hit in the same month. Other than the crossovers between the two series, there isn't any way to know the specific day of the month that an episode occurs, other than in a few instances and so it could be mostly dealers choice in that regard. Anyway, very cool suggestion. I might do that and place it on the google drive at some point.
"If only the Morbius movie could've gone on hibernation" 😭😭😭 So true... So true .. What a video man! Great work, really need to check out those Spidey/X-Men crossovers before Wednesday
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the vid. Was alot of fun putting it all together. Titan is da man. And that's so cool that you moved to the Dr. Strange symbol. Thanks for all your awesome support!
Just a thought, if this was a Saturday morning cartoon it would make sense that the paper says Saturday so it seems like it's always happening that day
Words can not express how happy I am that this channel and these videos exist! After I put my own animated multiverse together a few years ago with all the 90s animated shows I never thought I'd end up getting such good content to refer back to and help me iron out all the details! Thank you for all the hard work you put into these videos and once I have put together my definitive multiverse (including X-Men OG and '97, Spider-Man OG and Unlimited, Iron Man, Fantastic Four, The Incredible Hulk, Silver Surfer and Avengers: United They Stand) I will have to try and send it to you to see what you think 🤷♂️😂
Thanks so much for the positive feedback on the vid. I really love looking at these classic series and trying to put together timelines for them. That's so cool that you are working on a definitive multiverse order. I'd love to see it when you complete it. Thanks again for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
Incredible!! Thank you so much, I can't wait to see what you think of the other shows. Personally I think they're all supposed to be cannon and the inconsistencies are animation errors born from lack of communication, like with the origin of the hulk in the Iron Man show versus the Hulk show.
@@AbitofEverything4U I'm now 100% certain then connect (in my heart) based on the Avengers Assemble show from 2013. Season 1 of that show featured comic accurate guardians, but once the guardians show released the characters were ret-coned to the "mcu" style for season 2. If an entire team can change physical designs and voices and not be acknowledged, I think the president and an origin can change too.
Yeah, I think Avengers Assemble tried to make those connections you mention. I'll give the creators credit for doing their best to try to tie things together!
Can you do a video for the entire Animated Series universe? This includes X-Men: The Animated Series, Spider-Man: The Animated Series, Iron-Man: The Animated Series, Fantastic Four: The Animated Series, The Incredible Hulk: The Animated Series, and Silver Surfer: The Animated Series. They all take place on Earth 92131
Yes! More timeline stuff! First off ... I did not realize the Symbiote saga was in season 1 ... wild. Also ... season 2 was a 14 episode long arc? WOW. Also ... big oof on those newspapers haha. So as far as the work-study job ... that to me sounds like what we do in the UK in Secondary School which is effectively work experience (thus not paid). But I feel like this is very different because there's no way we'd get to work as a teacher haha. For the symbiote part he could be saying he conducted tests on it a few months ago ... but yeah that's weird. At least Season 4 seems to still be consistent, I don't know if I ever saw the Prowler stuff. Also, Black Widow? You mean Black Cat. It is interesting the show ends in December 1996 since that then lines up with the events of X-Men 97 ... and given how casual Peter seems to be in Tolerance is Extinction Part 2 you have to assume he's found the real Mary Jane at this point, right?
Can't believe I said Black Widow...sigh...Natasha of the brain. And yeah, I sure hope he got MJ back again. Maybe we'll learn that story some day...fingers crossed!
When sorting out the chronology of any given series, i always start with production order and then make adjustments as I watch the series in the order it was produced in.
Great point! Yeah, for the X-Men TAS timeline, that was critical to do, since it was aired completely out of order. For Spider-Man's series, it seems that the production order and air order are similar, which makes those newspaper dates jumping around all the stranger, tbh.
I need to mention something, while Spider-man TAS seasons 2-5 aired correctly and is deffinitley the right order, season 1 is more confusing. The version you showed was the air date order, however, a dvd release from the UK and the wikipedia episode list is different. There Sting Of The Scorpion is the second episode the spider slayer episodes are third and fourth, Menace of Mysterio is fifth, The Doc ock episode is sixth, the symbiote arc is 7, 8, and 9, and the kraven episode is tenth. I think this works better because in Sting Of the Scorpion in the beginning, Felica tells Peter she dosen't want her and Peter to start dating, this ties to the Doc Ock episdoe where Peter says "finally a date with Felica Hardy" also, in that same episode Spidey is on the phone with Aunt May, and she says "I've invited Anna Watsons Niece Mary Jame" this implies Peter and MJ haven't met yet. So I've always felt the production order of season 1 was the right order.
Great point! Yeah, I agree...it sure seems like production order is the way to go. But for the video I was using the D+ order and it's weird because D+ did fix the issues with the X-Men episodes and has them in the correct order, but they haven't fixed the Spider-Man episodes. Maybe we need to do a write-in campaign to get D+ to change their order. Cause my fear is if I went with the correct production order, then I'd get comments that I changed the order from D+. Anyway, totally agree with you. Excellent feedback on the vid!
Ooh happy days, I just love the 90's animated Spider-Man series, as they just made Spider-Man fun. Thanks another great timeline video.. Big shout out to Titan.. Great Work. ⭐⭐⭐😉👍
I was really excited for this video, because I was curious what the crossover points were. Knowing that the show takes place before X-Men 97 means Spider-Man must have already got Mary-Jane back from the 1800s, so that’s good to know.
I agree, I like the idea that the Spider-an series ended prior to his appearance in X-Men 97. Now they just need to give us the resolution to that cliffhanger. Please, please, please Marvel!
A lot of students like myself sometimes prefer to do work-study programs or other internships over the summer so that it doesn’t pile on to our semester/ quarter course work. Peter could have been doing something similar but it’s just a thought your timeline seems pretty solid 🔥
@@AbitofEverything4U Yes exactly! Often times if we go through the right channels we can get some college credit for internships or work-study programs we do over the summer (either paid or unpaid) while gaining some more practical industry experience than what we get in our courses, which is mostly theory. P.S. this is from a U.S. electrical engineering student’s perspective.
Have you considered also doing timeline videos for Silver Surfer, Avengers: United They Stand, and/or Spider-Man Unlimited? They always seemed to be “canon” but also not in some ways. I saw a timeline on Spider-Man Animated Fandom wiki that talked about all of the shows and attempted to correct any continuity errors between them.
Yeah, I think that would be a fun exercise. I'd have to do a fair bit of research to attempt it, but I'd like to dive into that topic at some point. Thanks for the suggestion!
Would you ever do a timeline video on the ultimate spiderman series since it connects to the agents of smash and (iirc) a avengers show? Because spiderman from it is in across the spiderverse
That's a cool idea. I don't know much about Agents of Smash, but I can add it to the list of ideas for the future. I love deep dives into how different series all connect together!
Gotta wonder if the beyonder accidentally or intentionally dumped Captain America outside of his time prison with Red Skull for him to show up in X-Men 97. he seemed pretty established so he may have been active for about a year. Really hope the other 90s shows are tied into the next seasons of X-men
Yeah, it would be great if they resolve what happened to Cap. Your solution would certainly work. And it was very interesting to see some of the winks and nods to the other series during the X-Men 97 finale. I wonder if we'll get a firm answer from Marvel on whether those other shows are canon? Fingers crossed they answer that question eventually!
@@AbitofEverything4U Would love for them to take that extra effort to tie in the other 90's shows. Out of curiosity I watched the last episodes of the Iron Man show and The Incredible Hulk. Hulk ended on friendly terms with Ross, as well as She-Hulk getting flirty with a Shield agent, who was also appreciating Banner's tech and how useful it would be for Shield. Seems like a great point for Banner to become a Shield asset and lead into a government Avengers. Not that everything has to be about the Avengers. I've just always been interested in what if the X-men movies evolved into the MCU and the Avengers form as a consequence of and response to mutant threats. Also would like to see how mutant radicals like Magneto view superhuman experiments like Captain America and Spiderman. Personally would be more compelling than Apocalypse, but I'm not too familiar with the comic plots they are adapting.
I liked you updated The logo for Deadpool & Wolverine & The Fantastic Four Also I’m more fine with you having it in the Multiverse section knowing that the film will be set in another universe explaining why the teams from the 60s but hasn’t been mentioned in the MCU yet obviously the main reason is because of the fact that Marvel did not have the rights back to them until Disney bought Fox Although with Doctor Strange in MOM after hearing that name he makes it seem He’s heard that name before and it sounds familiar which wouldn’t make sense. If the main version of the team that will be coming to his universe are also not even from his universe like the version of the team on Earth-838 obviously I know that universe has its own version of the team who do originate from that universe but you get what I’m saying although I don’t really think that they’ll be connected to the timeline via the void so you can just Connect them to the multiverse timeline via the TVA or the Loom as a placeholder in the meantime until the film comes out next year & we know it will connect to the timeline by the end of it also cool knowing Galactus is going to be in the movie and that’s been officially confirmed, and also he will be in more than one project alongside his Herald also yes the F4 Hulk & Iron Man shows are not set in the same universe as Spider-Man & X-Men
I noticed some of the two-part episodes, like Hobgoblin 1&2 and Make A Wish/Attack of the Octobot were placed in different months on the timeline, although I recall those episodes led into their conclusions without a time gap. Perhaps I'm missing something, but any particular reason for this?
Great questions. So Hobgoblin 1&2 was a mistake. I was torn on whether “you're a little late for Halloween” should indicate November or December. And somehow ended up with one in Nov and one in Dec. lol. I'm going to move them both to December, since there are no classes so it could be winter break. As for Make A Wish/Attack of the Octobot...season 3 is so hard since it seems there aren't many good places for a timeskip and yet we need to move the timeline forward. However, Episode 2 does indeed lead into 3. The gap is between Episode 1 and 2, and not between 2 and 3. I'll update both on the google drive. Thanks for catching those!
10:54-11:07 Yeah that's one change from the comics that I really hated. In the comics MJ's aunt Anna is supportive and kind but here they make her the exact opposite of what she is. It makes you wonder why the heck does aunt May continue to be friends with this person.
That's a great point! If I were Peter I'd be like "Aunt May, your friend hates my guts...why u hangin' with her all the time?" I do love Spider-Man TAS for many, many reasons, but Anna's reaction to Peter was a very odd choice. Thanks so much for watching the vid and leaving your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@@AbitofEverything4U I prefer the Spectacular Spider-Man show. I think it's better written and better animated. And the characters are a lot better there.
If the graphic at 26:24 ever shows up again it might be good to number each season. All the seasons are probably in numerical order anyway so there wouldn't be any reason to do it other than it would look cool especially with a cool font but I can't think of any reason not to do it.
With how good X-Men 97 has been, and just seeing the number of cameos they're throwing in, I have to think they're planning something big so I'm absolutely going to go through all the 90s Marvel shows once we get the Making of 97 special. I'm excited for Spider-Man, but it'll be awhile before I get to him because I have these scheduled out like they were when they were released. I'll pretty much be playing it up like it's the 90s and I'll be bouncing back and forth from series to series, episode by episode, as if it were week to week. Probably not the best way to do things, but I'm curious to see how well it could work out, too. I have seen some of Spider-Man already though. Back in the day when RUclips was a real wild west of uploads, someone uploaded every Symbiote related episode. This was around the same time that Spider-Man 3 had released so I was really interested in seeing more of the Black Suit and Venom and then eventually Carnage, too. It was the best, so I really hope it holds up because I also don't remember half of it anyway.
That should be a very cool experiment to watch the episodes in release order, jumping back and forth between series. You'll have to let me know how that goes!
@@AbitofEverything4U It should be interesting. I'm a big fan of context so if nothing else, at least upon a first watch, go with a release order. I've always had this kind of a thought experiment with Star Wars, but since I already know everything, I can't say it would be all that impactful, it would have to be with someone relatively new. Since I haven't watched any of these shows save for X-Men recently and oneoff episodes years ago, it could prove to be interesting just how inline the producers may have been trying to keep things for crossovers. Although I know there is this discrepancy between the different series and what is or is not canon. I'm not going to worry about that too much only because I imagine that if any characters have a history they reference like in the Spidey Secret Wars or something in X-Men 97, it will likely just be from the 90s shows, but from a universe where everything was just off to the left by an inch that makes it align with X-Men and Spider-Man. And besides all of this, I've got Disney+, I might as well be using it for something instead of just waiting around for new episodes of Marvel and Star Wars. Particularly in 2024 after all those strikes last year.
Yeah, it's nice to have it all on D+...we're going to have some lean months ahead without much new content to enjoy, so watching the older stuff should be fun!
@@AbitofEverything4U So you told me to keep you updated on how it's going. I've only just started Iron Man and Fantastic Four and I have to say that these two shows are really rough. They're suffering a bit from explaining everything they do as they do it even when everyone should know what's happening regardless. I'm liking Fantastic Four more than Iron Man but it also just depends on the story. The big thing though is that I watched the 4th episode of Fantastic Four, which isn't on Disney+, and I can see why it's not there, but then I start the 5th episode of Iron Man, and the same thing happens! So when the Twin Towers are destroyed in Fantastic Four, it's only a simulation of the plans the Skrulls intend to enact, and it's on a control pad that Ben Grimm thinks is a video game. The Twin Towers snap in half from missiles, a couple other buildings get blown up and he exclaims, "This is great!" and then goes on to say that the Skrulls are destroying New York but pats himself on the back for being a hero and he can stop them all in this video game (that he seemingly has no control over). In Iron Man, two missiles hit the Twin Towers and other buildings, but nothing is actually destroyed, you just see the initial impacts, and it's a simulation of what might happen should someone get ahold of a new jet he's developing, but there's protocols that prevent that. So I guess it's okay to attack the buildings as long as you don't show the actual damage, but I think it's also one of those things where while Ben Grimm sounds happy about it despite it only being a simulation, and Tony Stark is saying that he has concerns about what the military wants him to develop. I don't know, they're both fake scenarios, I don't see why the one needs to be taken away, but maybe it's the character reactions that make all the difference.
Interesting...yeah, it's weird they removed one of the episodes and not the other. How bizarre! And now that I think about it, I did mention that Fantastic Four episode that was removed during this video from long ago: ruclips.net/video/tdxwyZL-v38/видео.html
I actually came up with a watch order between the 90's Marvel shows. They're not necessarily in release order, but just an order I thought would make sense for a satisfying viewing experience. So here goes: X-Men - Season 1 Iron Man - Season 1 Fantastic Four - Season 1 X-Men - Season 2 Iron Man - Season 2 Fantastic Four - Season 2 Spider-Man - Season 1 X-Men - Season 3 Spider-Man - Season 2 X-Men - Season 4 Spider-Man - Season 3 X-Men - Season 5 The Incredible Hulk - Season 1 Spider-Man - Season 4 The Incredible Hulk - Season 2 Spider-Man - Season 5 X-Men '97 - Season 1 Not sure if "Silver Surfer" would fit in this canon, but I know for sure "Spider-Man Unlimited" and "Avengers: United They Stand" aren't in this continuity. Let me know what you guys think!
Looks great! In particular, I can speak to Spider-Man and X-Men's seasons, and that's how I would watch them as well. I need to research the other series for future timeline videos, but based on what I know about them, I think your overall order looks awesome!
Everyone keeps asking for Spider-Man '98 but they should instead be looking towards Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-Man! That series keeps getting overlooked
Very true...yeah, I'm hoping that will be a good series. They have delayed it for so many years that I do worry about it. But I'm still exited to see what they've cooked up with that series!
I'm asking this without having gone back and watched the show, but is it possible that the news papers were actually correct, and the episodes are just in the wrong order? I remember X-Men had an issue where the episodes were not in the correct order for the longest time, and how production scheduling can change between broadcast. Is there any evidence that might suggest this?
That's a great question. To my knowledge, the episodes are in the right order. In season 2 and 3, for instance, the episodes are numbered due to the fact that the entire season in one long storyline. So we know those seasons are in order, and yet they newspapers jump around back and forth between years. It's really mind-boggling, tbh.
Thank you for the video! Sorry but I’m a bit confused about something. Is the Spiderman & X-Men animated series a completely separate “tree” from the 616, Tobey, Andrew, Fox X-Men, etc. trees? Or is connected to any one of those via a branch?
Great question...yes, it seems that based on Beau DeMayo's recent tweet (twitter.com/BeauDemayo/status/1785589111187026281) that the two connected animated series are in a separate tree. Now, the question is whether that animated tree will connect with anything else down the line. That would be wild, if so. But regardless, the two series are not connected to 616, Tobey, Andrew, or the Fox X-Men trees it seems.
I do need to do those at some point. Perhaps as we get closer to X-Men 97 season 2. Or at least when all the crazy announcements calm down. My word, it's been so busy recently. I need a long nap!
@@AbitofEverything4U Haha, on my spreadsheet, I have it listed as a separate universe from the other animated series, but they still cross over. I've also been trying to figure out what universe each season of Avengers Assemble fits into. These animated series universes are so confusing!
How did captain America get out of the time vortex that he was stock in and also it is possible that the spider-man we see in X-men 97 is the clone that professor Warren creates using spider-man’s dna
Isn't that the million dollar question. I was surprised they didn't include a throw-a-way line when he appeared in X-Men 97 to try to tell us what happened, but for now ig it's a big mystery. Hope we learn eventually!
I’m wondering if we’ll find out tomorrow whether the X-men 97 time is the same as The Marvels post credit scene. I know it would be a lot for them to accomplish in just 1 final episode
My guess is that if they do make that connection (fingers crossed) that it likely won't happen until the series ends. So perhaps as the finale to season 3 or whatever is the last season.
Oops, sorry for the confusion. Was just saying hello back to you. But yes, I love to begin by saying "Hello MCU fans", because it's so much fun to have a chat with all the other fans who enjoy the MCU as much as I do.
The Hulk, Iron Man, and Fantastic Four shows from the 90s aren’t canon. In an episode of The Fantastic Four, the X-men do cameo and so does Spider-Man, but it’s the Ben Riley version. So the Hulk, Iron Man, and Fantastic Four show is an it’s own universe separate from the X-men and Spider-Man universe. Also it makes it very messy to connect those 3 shows with the Spider-Man and X-men shows
Yep...I think that's the conclusion I've come to as well. I'd love for the other shows to be connected, but I think at most that it's Spider-Man and X-Men that are connected.
@Pages476 In your head cannon you can consider them cannon. But trying to connect all five shows just makes it very messy. I’ve tried to connect them before, but it’s just impossible. There are just too many inconveniences. So I boiled it down to X-men and Spider-Man being in the same universe. And Iron Man, Hulk, and Fantastic Four as their own separate universe.
Don't forget the vastly different characterization of Scarlet Witch between X-Men and Iron Man, or the fact that the President of the United States is different between the two shows as well (X-Men, first was a woman who was never named, and then Season 2 to X-Men '97 it's Robert Kelly, while in Iron Man [as well as Fantastic Four], the President is Bill Clinton).
I'd consider them the same universe but different timelines because the versions that crossover are very similar. With how many timeline changes happened in X-men, I'm sure one of those branches might have the other shows connected. Idk, maybe I'm just coping.
At this point I’m just so overwhelmed and just gonna take your word on everything as canon lol by the way is there a planet of the apes timeline? Just a short video linking all movies and shows into one if that’s possible.
Great question about a Planet of the Apes timeline. I don't think I could do one as well as the one ScreenCrush just dropped. Here's a link in case you want to check it out: ruclips.net/video/fSHmvXEXpj0/видео.htmlsi=iEsp3W-UjdJezf1f
Good question...afaik, season 1's order is correct, but if you are thinking there could be an error, let me know and I'll dig into it abit further. Thanks so much for watching the vid and sharing your feedback on it. Really appreciate it!
@@AbitofEverything4U I hvnt seen the show yet, im Hving my first viewing experience with the entire universe. So far I’ve only seen the first 2 seasons of the X-Men show in the Disney+ format as of rn
@@AbitofEverything4U I actually only hv seen the venom symbiote and carnage episodes of the spider-man show and I can see why the last venom part in season 1 could take place later and ur school format being tied with Scorpion being the second episode and mysterio right after the spider slayer
@@BigChi3f5 Awesome! I think you'll really enjoy it. So, afaik, Spider-Man TAS is in the correct order. X-Men TAS was in the wrong order for awhile, but was corrected a few years back on D+. So I think both series are in a good viewing order at this point. Have fun watching the series!
@@AbitofEverything4U •Night of the Lizard •Sting of the scorpion (black cat is not as close to Peter so it doesn’t make sense to place this after spider slayer) •Spider Slayer •Return of the Spider Slayer • Menace of Mysterio •Doc Ock Armed and Dangerous •Alien costume part 1-3 •kraven the hunter •hobgoblin part 1 and 2 •day of the chameleon (Originally the third part for alien costume was created last but this is the production order) please revise ur timeline and let me kno what u think of this Particular order. I wna kno why does Venom episodes take place in October. I kno the X-Men order is out of order by one episode, so I’m just making sure of season 1 for Spider-Man this is my first viewing and I want it to make sense
Lol when you did the thumbnail contest and said May, I thought we were in June for a second but then I realized oh yeah we’re still in May so they’re still enough time for from nail stuff to make it better instead of you just taking still images from Disney+
Great question...so, I think you can watch the X-Men appearance in Spider-Man's series between X-Men Season 3 and 4. And then you can watch Storm's appearance in Spider-Man's series between X-Men Season 5 and X-Men 97 season 1.
@@AbitofEverything4U so we're already watching season 4. the last one we watched was secrets, not long buried. hopefully it's not too late to watch the spider-man crossover. also, do you think the old "adventures of the x-men" comic series is canon to the show? and on that matter what about the x-men '97 prequel comics?
I had heard that they were not considering the older comics to be canon and that only the new run of comics (I think there will ultimately be 4 issues) are canon.
Such a cool episode, personally secret wars is a dead ringer that these are all a part of the same universe. Hulk’s reappearance in xmen 97 being very similar to how he looked before and cap showing up only cements this imo. And for the more questionable series, avengers United they stand was going to have appearances from the xmen had it gotten a season 2, the fantastic four would have appeared in silver surfer had it gotten a season 2 and Spider-Man unlimited reused the old Spider-Man soundtrack, and had flashbacks to the same origins for the symbiotes. So despite the MANY continuity errors the connections were meant to be there. I mean every universe has its continuity issues right? I mean nobody says homecoming isn’t canon because of 8 years later, but unlimited isn’t canon because it doesn’t acknowledge any previous cliffhangers? Nonetheless great video and I’d love to see more videos on these timelines.
Yeah, I really need to do a deep dive into the other animated series and see what I can find out. I haven't even watched some of them before, so it would be fun to see them for the first time and try to make them all fit together!
@@AbitofEverything4U I know it would be more work but maybe since there’s no new shows or movies until deadpool 3, you could make some season reviews as you watch through the shows? I also haven’t seen any of them besides a bit of xmen and I just started watching through them with a rough chronological order. So far xmen is even better than I remember and i can’t wait to get to the others
Oh my...what an interesting idea. TTG is definitely a popular topic on the discord. My problem is I don't know it well enough to go deep on it, so it would take some research. But I do like the suggestion!
I plan on watching X-Men: TAS, '97 and Spider-Man: TAS at some point for the first time and I wanna do it in a chronological order but the your Googlesheet have the shows split up by seasons so I was just wondering if you (or anyone seeing this comment) know what order of episodes would be since both shows have episodes that occur in the same year and month. Example: X-Men S3 E8-10 and Spider-Man S1 E4-7 occurs in September of 94
Great question...it would probably be very tricky to go down to the day for each episode, although not impossible. But I would honestly recommend watching in order each of the episodes for a series that are back-to-back and not jumping between series, since there are not many ties between the two series, other than the crossovers that I highlighted between them. So going month by month back and forth between the series would likely be fine. The only month that is crazy is March of 1995, so in that case I'd watch X-Men TAS Season 3, Spider-Man TAS season 2, then go back to X-Men TAS Season 4. You could jump back to X-Men TAS season 4 after the March episodes of Spider-Man TAS season 2, but personally I prefer keeping a storyline intact rather than jumping back and forth too much. If you do try to break it down by episodes, let me know how it goes. Either way, wishing you an awesome viewing experience. Enjoy!
@@jyeenthehyena Good catch...yes, those two are out of order on D+. Ep 15 actually refers back to events in Ep 16. Otherwise D+ is in the correct order though.
Yup, I certainly thought about waiting, but I wanted people to have the info in the timeline prior to the X-Men 97 finale. In fact, I'll be tying them together in my final X-Men 97 breakdown. And ofc, we knew he'd find MJ (gotta have a happy ending) but the question remaining is how. I really hope we get a revival of the series and can finally learn what all went down. Thanks so much for the feedback on the vid. Really appreciate it!
The RUclips channel panels to pixels broke down the connected universe he pretty ruled out that avengers united they stand and unlimited spider are not cannon to main universe
@AbitofEverything4U X-Men: The Animated Series & Spider-Man: The Animated Series are officially listed as Earth-92131 Marvel Action Hour: Iron Man, MAH: The Fantastic Four & The Incredible Hulk series are officially listed as Earth-534834 The other 3 90s Animated Series all exist in their own universes: •Silver Surfer officially takes place on Earth-634962 •Spider-Man Unlimated officially takes place on Earth-751263 •Avengers: United They Stand officially takes place on Earth-730784
I mean the episodes could have come out in a different order they were made like the batman animated series is so the news papers could be the correct Years
Excellent point! Especially with the first season, there is some debate on what order the episodes should be in, so that could definitely be the reason the newspaper dates jump around a bit. However, in some of the later seasons, the episodes are numbered and so we know what the order is supposed to be and the newspapers are still jumping around. So I’m wondering if it was just a miscommunication at some point. But it’s kind of a bummer, because the newspapers would be really helpful if they were consistent. Regardless, it’s one of my favorite animated series, so in the end I just chock it up as a small mistake and focus instead on how great the overall stories are. Thank you so much for watching the video and sharing your thoughts on it. I truly appreciate it!
Spider-Man in this series learns he's a fictional character goes to the "real world" and meets Stan Lee. Peter also remembers everything that happened in Secret Wars P.s. I don't understand why no one else is bringing this up??
Great observations! I wonder if they will explain all that if they ever give us a revival of the original series. Perhaps he'll forget it all at that point?
@@KenshiroBoss Yeah, it seems like it can go either way. Some people are paid in cash, while others are given college credit for their work. Wild. Can't believe I've never heard of it before.
Yeah, that's what I figured as well. I mean, it sure seemed like Peter was doing alot of work when he was teaching those classes. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on that!
Hope you felt I kept it spoiler free. I tried my best. My hope was that people that haven't seen the series yet could still watch it and then get an overall understanding of how it fits together with the X-Men show.
@@AbitofEverything4U Yeah, absolutely. You only really covered the dates they mentioned, there wasn’t too much plot stuff. The only real “spoiler” is that MJ gets into trouble a lot, but in a Spiderman show, I feel like that’s a given.
To my knowledge, they are not directly tied together. I don't think Unlimited resolves the cliffhanger at the end of season 5, for example...at least not as far as I remember. I may do a vid on the unlimited series to discuss the reasons for and against it being tied to Spider-Man TAS. That could be a good vid.
Based on the beginning of the SMU series it seems like it’s set some time further in the future of SM TAS, if you could please do a recap I’d be very grateful and I’d like to see what others thought of SMU in relation to SM TAS.🤝🏾🫶🏾✌🏾
I think Spider-Man would side with the x men even though technically his not a mutant he is a mutate and I would assume he would have somewhat of a bond with them the only avenger he worked with is Ironman and I guess if you count dr strange But it would be awesome if we got a revival of spiderman like X-men 97
I Love Your Spider Man Animated Series Timeline You Put alot of Work into it Thanks for Sharing, So Today is Tuesday May 14th Just a Day away from the Finale of X Men 97 it's so Exciting, I Too am Interested to Find out When that Cameo of Spider Man In X Men 97 Takes Place Either Before or After Spider Man Left with Madame Web to Look for Mary Jane.
i really feel like avoiding spoilers in your timeline videos is kind of unproductive. these videos are great but a timeline is inherently a spoiler. anyone who decides to watch a timeline video and also doesnt want spoilers must have some mental issues lol. i love the vids either way, just a suggestion
Yeah, I kinda feel the same way. It's almost not worth the effort to avoid spoilers, since the show has been out since the 90's. However, the main reason I was abit more careful in this case is I think there is likely a decent amount of people that have never seen the Spider-Man 90's show and might still watch the vid to get an overall view of the timeline. But yeah, your point is very valid.
Yeah, I don't see any big issues between the X-Men and Spider-Man shows, but trying to tie in the other shows (Hulk, F4, and Iron Man, as well as Silver Surfer) can be very messy at times. I really think the others aren't part of the same universe, but I'll see what I can find out when I do a deeper dive in those shows.
Check out the Google Drive timeline documents: drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1R_PrexMkTjYpQAraxlhzs2U5EPJEPioc.
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Hey man I do video editing and stuff if you ever need a hand. I thought you worked solo, I didn't know you worked with people lol
That's not how work study goes now days,
in my school work study is basically you get paid from the state to do work at the school, its in option if state funding isn't enough, but you don't want to / cant afford to take out a/another loan.
it's actually a pretty sweet deal if you can get them to hire you.
@@rickee9909 Yeah, I collab with folks on the Discord server for the brainstorming on the vids. It's so helpful to bounce ideas off of others. Makes it alot more fun!
@@rickee9909 Yeah, the whole work study thing was so confusing to me. That's great that you get paid for it!
@@AbitofEverything4U i dont its so hard to actually get a work study job, but ive applied for like at least 40 of them lol
My brother and I had a VHS tape of the Daredevil crossover episodes when we were little, and it made us fans of both Spider-Man and Daredevil growing up. Watching the rest of the series on Jetix/Disney XD are also fond childhood memories of mine.
Isn't that so much fun to revisit something you watched as a kid. Love all the memories it brings back!
My cousins had that same VHS which by like 2005 was already sorta old lol. Absolutely loved getting to go over and watch it!
@@unownintendo Oh, the days of VHS. Such memories!
Seeing a lot of people discussing the canonicity of the other 90s shows in this timeline. I will point out that Beau Demayo is doing a live Tweet in a couple days where he'll be answering questions, if y'all want to try to throw a reply out during it, maybe with enough of us asking he'll answer one of us!
Would be awesome if he would answer. Also, thanks for all your amazing work on the vid...you rock, sir!
First off thanks for the help with this timeline.
Secondly would you happen to have a date or time for this live tweet? I’d love to ask him.
@@markdarc0448 2 days when the new episode releases, there's not an official time for it but he was answering questions on and off all day last Wednesday, it'll be like that
@@-Titan29- awesome thanks
@@markdarc0448 Yeah, very exciting!
Who’s here after the 97 Finale??
That cameo is breaking my brain lmao. It’s so amazing what they’re doing with this series!
Yeah, the X-Men 97 series has been pure insanity from beginning to end. Love everything they have done with it!
This video was awesome! It would be rlly cool if you did timelines for other animated shows that came out before and after the 90s shows! It’s always neat to see how everything connects!
Thanks so much...really appreciate the positive feedback on the vid. Had a lot of fun putting it together and I agree, I need to look at some of the other shows around that timeframe and do the timelines and connections for those as well!
I was getting ready to put my 2 cents in incase the timeline didn’t work, but you nailed it!! It fits like a glove! I need Spider-Man 98.
Love your work man! You’re insane for putting these together!
Yeah, I was honestly surprised with how well the timeline ended up. It was hard to nail down at points, but overall I think it flowed really well with the X-Men timeline. Thank so much for the positive feedback on it. Really appreciate it!
I remember watching a VHS with like, three episodes of this show when I was a kid. I absolutely fell in love with it. It wasn't until years later that I watched the full show and I still loved it
Yeah, I really do love the show. It brings back so many fond memories!
Spider-Man The Animated Series might have a more confusing timeline than the Fox X-Men movies timeline and thats is saying incredibly a lot 😂
ikr? Yeah, some of the seasons fit really well, and others were pretty zany...and those newspapers...craziness!
@@AbitofEverything4U for real, they couldn't decide on whether to set some of the shows events in 1995 or 1996 lol
Exactly!
One note about the work study - it may have been for intersession or summer, when an unpaid intern could make sense, and move the timeline a little. Not sure, just a thought since I took those in college
Oh, okay...that's very interesting. So it was like summer school. Okay, that could explain it.
Loved the amount of work that went into this! I do kinda wish it would've been broken down even further to figure out how to watch each episode of both series' in chronological order but this was still great. Love this kind of timeline content!
That's a cool idea to harmonize the two timelines together. Because I've broken each episode down by month it wouldn't be hard to do. I have the images for the timelines on the googledrive, if you ever want to try to create your own episode by episode watch order: drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1R_PrexMkTjYpQAraxlhzs2U5EPJEPioc.
But honestly, it's also tough to know which episodes to watch first if multiple epsidoes hit in the same month. Other than the crossovers between the two series, there isn't any way to know the specific day of the month that an episode occurs, other than in a few instances and so it could be mostly dealers choice in that regard. Anyway, very cool suggestion. I might do that and place it on the google drive at some point.
"If only the Morbius movie could've gone on hibernation" 😭😭😭 So true... So true .. What a video man! Great work, really need to check out those Spidey/X-Men crossovers before Wednesday
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the vid. Was alot of fun putting it all together. Titan is da man. And that's so cool that you moved to the Dr. Strange symbol. Thanks for all your awesome support!
Just a thought, if this was a Saturday morning cartoon it would make sense that the paper says Saturday so it seems like it's always happening that day
Niiiiiice! I like that idea!
These 90s marvel animated universe shows such as spiderman the animated series and xmen animated series returnig in 2024 is just a dream come true.
irk? Makes me so happy!
Really hoping they continue the Spider-Man show! There are so many new comic stories to pull from
I agree...I'd love to get a follow-on series from the 90's Spider-Man. Please Marvel!
Words can not express how happy I am that this channel and these videos exist! After I put my own animated multiverse together a few years ago with all the 90s animated shows I never thought I'd end up getting such good content to refer back to and help me iron out all the details! Thank you for all the hard work you put into these videos and once I have put together my definitive multiverse (including X-Men OG and '97, Spider-Man OG and Unlimited, Iron Man, Fantastic Four, The Incredible Hulk, Silver Surfer and Avengers: United They Stand) I will have to try and send it to you to see what you think 🤷♂️😂
Thanks so much for the positive feedback on the vid. I really love looking at these classic series and trying to put together timelines for them. That's so cool that you are working on a definitive multiverse order. I'd love to see it when you complete it. Thanks again for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
Incredible!! Thank you so much, I can't wait to see what you think of the other shows. Personally I think they're all supposed to be cannon and the inconsistencies are animation errors born from lack of communication, like with the origin of the hulk in the Iron Man show versus the Hulk show.
Yeah, it's so hard to tell what's connected and what isn't, but I think doing a deep dive on it would be alot of fun!
@@AbitofEverything4U Agreed! My favorite show was for sure the Silver Surfer, and sadly it's the most disconnected one lol.
Yeah, I wonder if they would have tried to connect it if they had continued to further seasons.
@@AbitofEverything4U I'm now 100% certain then connect (in my heart) based on the Avengers Assemble show from 2013. Season 1 of that show featured comic accurate guardians, but once the guardians show released the characters were ret-coned to the "mcu" style for season 2. If an entire team can change physical designs and voices and not be acknowledged, I think the president and an origin can change too.
Yeah, I think Avengers Assemble tried to make those connections you mention. I'll give the creators credit for doing their best to try to tie things together!
This serie is my favorite spiderman adaptation this made my childhood ( it was a rediffusion )
I agree...I love this series. I do think it's the best animated adaptation for sure!
I had a friend who's father hates me as much Anna Watson hates Peter on this show.
Oh my! Sorry to hear that. Yeah, I think Anna wakes up in the morning and by her first sip of coffee, she's already plotting the demise of poor Peter!
thanks this is great!!
Thanks for watching...really appreciate the positive feedback!
Great video per usual
Thanks! Really enjoyed putting the show into a timeline and seeing how it fit together with the X-Men series!
Can you do a video for the entire Animated Series universe? This includes X-Men: The Animated Series, Spider-Man: The Animated Series, Iron-Man: The Animated Series, Fantastic Four: The Animated Series, The Incredible Hulk: The Animated Series, and Silver Surfer: The Animated Series. They all take place on Earth 92131
Yeah, I need to look at those other series timelines. It would be very cool to see how they all intersect with each other. Excellent suggestion!
Love your amount of effort, expecially since you hadn´t someone to "cheat" from cause no one did that before
Thanks! Yeah, it wasn't easy to enter into new territory like that, but it was alot of fun!
Yes! More timeline stuff! First off ... I did not realize the Symbiote saga was in season 1 ... wild. Also ... season 2 was a 14 episode long arc? WOW. Also ... big oof on those newspapers haha. So as far as the work-study job ... that to me sounds like what we do in the UK in Secondary School which is effectively work experience (thus not paid). But I feel like this is very different because there's no way we'd get to work as a teacher haha. For the symbiote part he could be saying he conducted tests on it a few months ago ... but yeah that's weird. At least Season 4 seems to still be consistent, I don't know if I ever saw the Prowler stuff. Also, Black Widow? You mean Black Cat. It is interesting the show ends in December 1996 since that then lines up with the events of X-Men 97 ... and given how casual Peter seems to be in Tolerance is Extinction Part 2 you have to assume he's found the real Mary Jane at this point, right?
Can't believe I said Black Widow...sigh...Natasha of the brain. And yeah, I sure hope he got MJ back again. Maybe we'll learn that story some day...fingers crossed!
When sorting out the chronology of any given series, i always start with production order and then make adjustments as I watch the series in the order it was produced in.
Great point! Yeah, for the X-Men TAS timeline, that was critical to do, since it was aired completely out of order. For Spider-Man's series, it seems that the production order and air order are similar, which makes those newspaper dates jumping around all the stranger, tbh.
Seems pretty legit i agree with it
Thanks...had a great time putting it together. Really appreciate you watching and sharing your feedback!
I need to mention something, while Spider-man TAS seasons 2-5 aired correctly and is deffinitley the right order, season 1 is more confusing. The version you showed was the air date order, however, a dvd release from the UK and the wikipedia episode list is different. There Sting Of The Scorpion is the second episode the spider slayer episodes are third and fourth, Menace of Mysterio is fifth, The Doc ock episode is sixth, the symbiote arc is 7, 8, and 9, and the kraven episode is tenth. I think this works better because in Sting Of the Scorpion in the beginning, Felica tells Peter she dosen't want her and Peter to start dating, this ties to the Doc Ock episdoe where Peter says "finally a date with Felica Hardy" also, in that same episode Spidey is on the phone with Aunt May, and she says "I've invited Anna Watsons Niece Mary Jame" this implies Peter and MJ haven't met yet. So I've always felt the production order of season 1 was the right order.
Great point! Yeah, I agree...it sure seems like production order is the way to go. But for the video I was using the D+ order and it's weird because D+ did fix the issues with the X-Men episodes and has them in the correct order, but they haven't fixed the Spider-Man episodes. Maybe we need to do a write-in campaign to get D+ to change their order. Cause my fear is if I went with the correct production order, then I'd get comments that I changed the order from D+. Anyway, totally agree with you. Excellent feedback on the vid!
@@AbitofEverything4U you’re welcome
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Ooh happy days, I just love the 90's animated Spider-Man series, as they just made Spider-Man fun.
Thanks another great timeline video.. Big shout out to Titan.. Great Work.
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Yeah, I loved that show from the moment I first watched it years ago. And Titan is the man. Was so much fun working with him on the vid!
They did have one back in the day
Back in the day...I used to walk uphill to school both ways...in a foot of snow...you kids have it so good these days!
I was really excited for this video, because I was curious what the crossover points were.
Knowing that the show takes place before X-Men 97 means Spider-Man must have already got Mary-Jane back from the 1800s, so that’s good to know.
I agree, I like the idea that the Spider-an series ended prior to his appearance in X-Men 97. Now they just need to give us the resolution to that cliffhanger. Please, please, please Marvel!
A lot of students like myself sometimes prefer to do work-study programs or other internships over the summer so that it doesn’t pile on to our semester/ quarter course work. Peter could have been doing something similar but it’s just a thought your timeline seems pretty solid 🔥
Oh, how interesting. So it may be essentially a summer school? Thanks for explaining that!
@@AbitofEverything4U Yes exactly! Often times if we go through the right channels we can get some college credit for internships or work-study programs we do over the summer (either paid or unpaid) while gaining some more practical industry experience than what we get in our courses, which is mostly theory. P.S. this is from a U.S. electrical engineering student’s perspective.
Very cool!
Have you considered also doing timeline videos for Silver Surfer, Avengers: United They Stand, and/or Spider-Man Unlimited?
They always seemed to be “canon” but also not in some ways. I saw a timeline on Spider-Man Animated Fandom wiki that talked about all of the shows and attempted to correct any continuity errors between them.
Yeah, I think that would be a fun exercise. I'd have to do a fair bit of research to attempt it, but I'd like to dive into that topic at some point. Thanks for the suggestion!
Would you ever do a timeline video on the ultimate spiderman series since it connects to the agents of smash and (iirc) a avengers show? Because spiderman from it is in across the spiderverse
That's a cool idea. I don't know much about Agents of Smash, but I can add it to the list of ideas for the future. I love deep dives into how different series all connect together!
28:47 lol Smiling Friends with Mike from RLM & K-Dot because of what’s happening with him and Drizzy
Too funny!
Gotta wonder if the beyonder accidentally or intentionally dumped Captain America outside of his time prison with Red Skull for him to show up in X-Men 97. he seemed pretty established so he may have been active for about a year. Really hope the other 90s shows are tied into the next seasons of X-men
Yeah, it would be great if they resolve what happened to Cap. Your solution would certainly work. And it was very interesting to see some of the winks and nods to the other series during the X-Men 97 finale. I wonder if we'll get a firm answer from Marvel on whether those other shows are canon? Fingers crossed they answer that question eventually!
@@AbitofEverything4U Would love for them to take that extra effort to tie in the other 90's shows. Out of curiosity I watched the last episodes of the Iron Man show and The Incredible Hulk. Hulk ended on friendly terms with Ross, as well as She-Hulk getting flirty with a Shield agent, who was also appreciating Banner's tech and how useful it would be for Shield. Seems like a great point for Banner to become a Shield asset and lead into a government Avengers. Not that everything has to be about the Avengers. I've just always been interested in what if the X-men movies evolved into the MCU and the Avengers form as a consequence of and response to mutant threats. Also would like to see how mutant radicals like Magneto view superhuman experiments like Captain America and Spiderman. Personally would be more compelling than Apocalypse, but I'm not too familiar with the comic plots they are adapting.
Those are some interesting directions to take the Avengers. I'd be down for that, if Marvel decides to go head that way!
I liked you updated The logo for Deadpool & Wolverine & The Fantastic Four Also I’m more fine with you having it in the Multiverse section knowing that the film will be set in another universe explaining why the teams from the 60s but hasn’t been mentioned in the MCU yet obviously the main reason is because of the fact that Marvel did not have the rights back to them until Disney bought Fox Although with Doctor Strange in MOM after hearing that name he makes it seem He’s heard that name before and it sounds familiar which wouldn’t make sense. If the main version of the team that will be coming to his universe are also not even from his universe like the version of the team on Earth-838 obviously I know that universe has its own version of the team who do originate from that universe but you get what I’m saying although I don’t really think that they’ll be connected to the timeline via the void so you can just Connect them to the multiverse timeline via the TVA or the Loom as a placeholder in the meantime until the film comes out next year & we know it will connect to the timeline by the end of it also cool knowing Galactus is going to be in the movie and that’s been officially confirmed, and also he will be in more than one project alongside his Herald also yes the F4 Hulk & Iron Man shows are not set in the same universe as Spider-Man & X-Men
Yeah, just thinking about all that really gets me excited for the multiverse saga to kick into high gear!
I noticed some of the two-part episodes, like Hobgoblin 1&2 and Make A Wish/Attack of the Octobot were placed in different months on the timeline, although I recall those episodes led into their conclusions without a time gap. Perhaps I'm missing something, but any particular reason for this?
Great questions. So Hobgoblin 1&2 was a mistake. I was torn on whether “you're a little late for Halloween” should indicate November or December. And somehow ended up with one in Nov and one in Dec. lol. I'm going to move them both to December, since there are no classes so it could be winter break.
As for Make A Wish/Attack of the Octobot...season 3 is so hard since it seems there aren't many good places for a timeskip and yet we need to move the timeline forward. However, Episode 2 does indeed lead into 3. The gap is between Episode 1 and 2, and not between 2 and 3. I'll update both on the google drive. Thanks for catching those!
10:54-11:07 Yeah that's one change from the comics that I really hated. In the comics MJ's aunt Anna is supportive and kind but here they make her the exact opposite of what she is. It makes you wonder why the heck does aunt May continue to be friends with this person.
That's a great point! If I were Peter I'd be like "Aunt May, your friend hates my guts...why u hangin' with her all the time?" I do love Spider-Man TAS for many, many reasons, but Anna's reaction to Peter was a very odd choice. Thanks so much for watching the vid and leaving your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@@AbitofEverything4U I prefer the Spectacular Spider-Man show. I think it's better written and better animated. And the characters are a lot better there.
Yeah, that's a very good show!
If the graphic at 26:24 ever shows up again it might be good to number each season. All the seasons are probably in numerical order anyway so there wouldn't be any reason to do it other than it would look cool especially with a cool font but I can't think of any reason not to do it.
Excellent suggestion! I'll do that for sure!
With how good X-Men 97 has been, and just seeing the number of cameos they're throwing in, I have to think they're planning something big so I'm absolutely going to go through all the 90s Marvel shows once we get the Making of 97 special. I'm excited for Spider-Man, but it'll be awhile before I get to him because I have these scheduled out like they were when they were released. I'll pretty much be playing it up like it's the 90s and I'll be bouncing back and forth from series to series, episode by episode, as if it were week to week. Probably not the best way to do things, but I'm curious to see how well it could work out, too.
I have seen some of Spider-Man already though. Back in the day when RUclips was a real wild west of uploads, someone uploaded every Symbiote related episode. This was around the same time that Spider-Man 3 had released so I was really interested in seeing more of the Black Suit and Venom and then eventually Carnage, too. It was the best, so I really hope it holds up because I also don't remember half of it anyway.
That should be a very cool experiment to watch the episodes in release order, jumping back and forth between series. You'll have to let me know how that goes!
@@AbitofEverything4U It should be interesting. I'm a big fan of context so if nothing else, at least upon a first watch, go with a release order. I've always had this kind of a thought experiment with Star Wars, but since I already know everything, I can't say it would be all that impactful, it would have to be with someone relatively new. Since I haven't watched any of these shows save for X-Men recently and oneoff episodes years ago, it could prove to be interesting just how inline the producers may have been trying to keep things for crossovers.
Although I know there is this discrepancy between the different series and what is or is not canon. I'm not going to worry about that too much only because I imagine that if any characters have a history they reference like in the Spidey Secret Wars or something in X-Men 97, it will likely just be from the 90s shows, but from a universe where everything was just off to the left by an inch that makes it align with X-Men and Spider-Man.
And besides all of this, I've got Disney+, I might as well be using it for something instead of just waiting around for new episodes of Marvel and Star Wars. Particularly in 2024 after all those strikes last year.
Yeah, it's nice to have it all on D+...we're going to have some lean months ahead without much new content to enjoy, so watching the older stuff should be fun!
@@AbitofEverything4U So you told me to keep you updated on how it's going. I've only just started Iron Man and Fantastic Four and I have to say that these two shows are really rough. They're suffering a bit from explaining everything they do as they do it even when everyone should know what's happening regardless. I'm liking Fantastic Four more than Iron Man but it also just depends on the story. The big thing though is that I watched the 4th episode of Fantastic Four, which isn't on Disney+, and I can see why it's not there, but then I start the 5th episode of Iron Man, and the same thing happens!
So when the Twin Towers are destroyed in Fantastic Four, it's only a simulation of the plans the Skrulls intend to enact, and it's on a control pad that Ben Grimm thinks is a video game. The Twin Towers snap in half from missiles, a couple other buildings get blown up and he exclaims, "This is great!" and then goes on to say that the Skrulls are destroying New York but pats himself on the back for being a hero and he can stop them all in this video game (that he seemingly has no control over).
In Iron Man, two missiles hit the Twin Towers and other buildings, but nothing is actually destroyed, you just see the initial impacts, and it's a simulation of what might happen should someone get ahold of a new jet he's developing, but there's protocols that prevent that. So I guess it's okay to attack the buildings as long as you don't show the actual damage, but I think it's also one of those things where while Ben Grimm sounds happy about it despite it only being a simulation, and Tony Stark is saying that he has concerns about what the military wants him to develop. I don't know, they're both fake scenarios, I don't see why the one needs to be taken away, but maybe it's the character reactions that make all the difference.
Interesting...yeah, it's weird they removed one of the episodes and not the other. How bizarre! And now that I think about it, I did mention that Fantastic Four episode that was removed during this video from long ago: ruclips.net/video/tdxwyZL-v38/видео.html
I just remembered that Jack Black did a Spider-Man (2002) parody for the MTV movie awards in 2002.
Love Jack Black...dude is hilarious!
I actually came up with a watch order between the 90's Marvel shows. They're not necessarily in release order, but just an order I thought would make sense for a satisfying viewing experience. So here goes:
X-Men - Season 1
Iron Man - Season 1
Fantastic Four - Season 1
X-Men - Season 2
Iron Man - Season 2
Fantastic Four - Season 2
Spider-Man - Season 1
X-Men - Season 3
Spider-Man - Season 2
X-Men - Season 4
Spider-Man - Season 3
X-Men - Season 5
The Incredible Hulk - Season 1
Spider-Man - Season 4
The Incredible Hulk - Season 2
Spider-Man - Season 5
X-Men '97 - Season 1
Not sure if "Silver Surfer" would fit in this canon, but I know for sure "Spider-Man Unlimited" and "Avengers: United They Stand" aren't in this continuity. Let me know what you guys think!
Looks great! In particular, I can speak to Spider-Man and X-Men's seasons, and that's how I would watch them as well. I need to research the other series for future timeline videos, but based on what I know about them, I think your overall order looks awesome!
@@AbitofEverything4U Thanks, man! Appreciate it. You keep up the great work. Always look forward to a new video! Excelsior!
Thanks...really appreciate that!
Everyone keeps asking for Spider-Man '98 but they should instead be looking towards Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-Man! That series keeps getting overlooked
Very true...yeah, I'm hoping that will be a good series. They have delayed it for so many years that I do worry about it. But I'm still exited to see what they've cooked up with that series!
I'm asking this without having gone back and watched the show, but is it possible that the news papers were actually correct, and the episodes are just in the wrong order? I remember X-Men had an issue where the episodes were not in the correct order for the longest time, and how production scheduling can change between broadcast. Is there any evidence that might suggest this?
That's a great question. To my knowledge, the episodes are in the right order. In season 2 and 3, for instance, the episodes are numbered due to the fact that the entire season in one long storyline. So we know those seasons are in order, and yet they newspapers jump around back and forth between years. It's really mind-boggling, tbh.
Thank you for the video! Sorry but I’m a bit confused about something. Is the Spiderman & X-Men animated series a completely separate “tree” from the 616, Tobey, Andrew, Fox X-Men, etc. trees? Or is connected to any one of those via a branch?
Great question...yes, it seems that based on Beau DeMayo's recent tweet (twitter.com/BeauDemayo/status/1785589111187026281) that the two connected animated series are in a separate tree. Now, the question is whether that animated tree will connect with anything else down the line. That would be wild, if so. But regardless, the two series are not connected to 616, Tobey, Andrew, or the Fox X-Men trees it seems.
Are you gonna release the breakdown of the other '90s Animated series? like Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, Fantastic Four, and Avengers UTS?
I do need to do those at some point. Perhaps as we get closer to X-Men 97 season 2. Or at least when all the crazy announcements calm down. My word, it's been so busy recently. I need a long nap!
@@AbitofEverything4U Haha, on my spreadsheet, I have it listed as a separate universe from the other animated series, but they still cross over. I've also been trying to figure out what universe each season of Avengers Assemble fits into. These animated series universes are so confusing!
I agree...the animated universes are very, very confusing!
How did captain America get out of the time vortex that he was stock in and also it is possible that the spider-man we see in X-men 97 is the clone that professor Warren creates using spider-man’s dna
Isn't that the million dollar question. I was surprised they didn't include a throw-a-way line when he appeared in X-Men 97 to try to tell us what happened, but for now ig it's a big mystery. Hope we learn eventually!
I’m wondering if we’ll find out tomorrow whether the X-men 97 time is the same as The Marvels post credit scene. I know it would be a lot for them to accomplish in just 1 final episode
My guess is that if they do make that connection (fingers crossed) that it likely won't happen until the series ends. So perhaps as the finale to season 3 or whatever is the last season.
A bit of everything you forgot to mention that it says “all tied up by Ned Leeds” 3:44 and another Ned Leeds at 6:47
Great point! Those were some clever Ned Leeds easter eggs. Thanks for mentioning that!
0:01 “Hello MCU fans”
Well, hello there!
@@AbitofEverything4U you said.. ‘mcu’ fans
Oops, sorry for the confusion. Was just saying hello back to you. But yes, I love to begin by saying "Hello MCU fans", because it's so much fun to have a chat with all the other fans who enjoy the MCU as much as I do.
@@AbitofEverything4U but.. Spider-Man TAS is not part of the mcu..
Oh! I'm with you now. Yeah, I guess I could say "hello, Marvel fans". But with the multiverse, it's all sorta connected in a roundabout way, ig?
I want to watch it but it isn't available anywhere legally in my country except for a DVD boxset that costs 300€...😢
Bummer that it isn’t on D+ for your region. Hope that changes!
The Hulk, Iron Man, and Fantastic Four shows from the 90s aren’t canon. In an episode of The Fantastic Four, the X-men do cameo and so does Spider-Man, but it’s the Ben Riley version. So the Hulk, Iron Man, and Fantastic Four show is an it’s own universe separate from the X-men and Spider-Man universe. Also it makes it very messy to connect those 3 shows with the Spider-Man and X-men shows
Yep...I think that's the conclusion I've come to as well. I'd love for the other shows to be connected, but I think at most that it's Spider-Man and X-Men that are connected.
@Pages476 In your head cannon you can consider them cannon. But trying to connect all five shows just makes it very messy. I’ve tried to connect them before, but it’s just impossible. There are just too many inconveniences. So I boiled it down to X-men and Spider-Man being in the same universe. And Iron Man, Hulk, and Fantastic Four as their own separate universe.
Don't forget the vastly different characterization of Scarlet Witch between X-Men and Iron Man, or the fact that the President of the United States is different between the two shows as well (X-Men, first was a woman who was never named, and then Season 2 to X-Men '97 it's Robert Kelly, while in Iron Man [as well as Fantastic Four], the President is Bill Clinton).
I'd consider them the same universe but different timelines because the versions that crossover are very similar. With how many timeline changes happened in X-men, I'm sure one of those branches might have the other shows connected. Idk, maybe I'm just coping.
@Pages476thats pretty much my take as well.
At this point I’m just so overwhelmed and just gonna take your word on everything as canon lol by the way is there a planet of the apes timeline? Just a short video linking all movies and shows into one if that’s possible.
Great question about a Planet of the Apes timeline. I don't think I could do one as well as the one ScreenCrush just dropped. Here's a link in case you want to check it out: ruclips.net/video/fSHmvXEXpj0/видео.htmlsi=iEsp3W-UjdJezf1f
@@AbitofEverything4U Thanks for the link! Looking forward to more timeline videos!
Yeah, I love timeline videos, too. I promise more on the way!
The problem with these animated shows is that they’re kind of inconsistent and when the characters say months or years, they don’t really mean it.
Very true! So it makes it tricky to do a timeline vid like this, but I tried as best I could.
#SPIDERMAN98
Gotta have it...please, Marvel...please!
Hello, can u check Spider-Man show production order for season 1 and lmk how u feel abt those episodes being placed.
Good question...afaik, season 1's order is correct, but if you are thinking there could be an error, let me know and I'll dig into it abit further. Thanks so much for watching the vid and sharing your feedback on it. Really appreciate it!
@@AbitofEverything4U I hvnt seen the show yet, im Hving my first viewing experience with the entire universe. So far I’ve only seen the first 2 seasons of the X-Men show in the Disney+ format as of rn
@@AbitofEverything4U I actually only hv seen the venom symbiote and carnage episodes of the spider-man show and I can see why the last venom part in season 1 could take place later and ur school format being tied with Scorpion being the second episode and mysterio right after the spider slayer
@@BigChi3f5 Awesome! I think you'll really enjoy it. So, afaik, Spider-Man TAS is in the correct order. X-Men TAS was in the wrong order for awhile, but was corrected a few years back on D+. So I think both series are in a good viewing order at this point. Have fun watching the series!
@@AbitofEverything4U
•Night of the Lizard
•Sting of the scorpion (black cat is not as close to Peter so it doesn’t make sense to place this after spider slayer)
•Spider Slayer
•Return of the Spider Slayer
• Menace of Mysterio
•Doc Ock Armed and Dangerous
•Alien costume part 1-3
•kraven the hunter
•hobgoblin part 1 and 2
•day of the chameleon
(Originally the third part for alien costume was created last but this is the production order) please revise ur timeline and let me kno what u think of this Particular order. I wna kno why does Venom episodes take place in October. I kno the X-Men order is out of order by one episode, so I’m just making sure of season 1 for Spider-Man this is my first viewing and I want it to make sense
Lol when you did the thumbnail contest and said May, I thought we were in June for a second but then I realized oh yeah we’re still in May so they’re still enough time for from nail stuff to make it better instead of you just taking still images from Disney+
Agreed...I'm sure we'll get several cool thumbs for the video. Can't wait to see them!
just wondering: me and my dad are currently watching the original x-men show. so when should I watch these crossovers in relation to the x-men show?
Great question...so, I think you can watch the X-Men appearance in Spider-Man's series between X-Men Season 3 and 4. And then you can watch Storm's appearance in Spider-Man's series between X-Men Season 5 and X-Men 97 season 1.
@@AbitofEverything4U so we're already watching season 4. the last one we watched was secrets, not long buried. hopefully it's not too late to watch the spider-man crossover. also, do you think the old "adventures of the x-men" comic series is canon to the show? and on that matter what about the x-men '97 prequel comics?
I had heard that they were not considering the older comics to be canon and that only the new run of comics (I think there will ultimately be 4 issues) are canon.
Such a cool episode, personally secret wars is a dead ringer that these are all a part of the same universe. Hulk’s reappearance in xmen 97 being very similar to how he looked before and cap showing up only cements this imo.
And for the more questionable series, avengers United they stand was going to have appearances from the xmen had it gotten a season 2, the fantastic four would have appeared in silver surfer had it gotten a season 2 and Spider-Man unlimited reused the old Spider-Man soundtrack, and had flashbacks to the same origins for the symbiotes.
So despite the MANY continuity errors the connections were meant to be there. I mean every universe has its continuity issues right? I mean nobody says homecoming isn’t canon because of 8 years later, but unlimited isn’t canon because it doesn’t acknowledge any previous cliffhangers?
Nonetheless great video and I’d love to see more videos on these timelines.
Yeah, I really need to do a deep dive into the other animated series and see what I can find out. I haven't even watched some of them before, so it would be fun to see them for the first time and try to make them all fit together!
@@AbitofEverything4U I know it would be more work but maybe since there’s no new shows or movies until deadpool 3, you could make some season reviews as you watch through the shows?
I also haven’t seen any of them besides a bit of xmen and I just started watching through them with a rough chronological order. So far xmen is even better than I remember and i can’t wait to get to the others
Good suggestions!
can u do a teen titans 2003 timeline breakdown
Oh my...what an interesting idea. TTG is definitely a popular topic on the discord. My problem is I don't know it well enough to go deep on it, so it would take some research. But I do like the suggestion!
I plan on watching X-Men: TAS, '97 and Spider-Man: TAS at some point for the first time and I wanna do it in a chronological order but the your Googlesheet have the shows split up by seasons so I was just wondering if you (or anyone seeing this comment) know what order of episodes would be since both shows have episodes that occur in the same year and month.
Example: X-Men S3 E8-10 and Spider-Man S1 E4-7 occurs in September of 94
Great question...it would probably be very tricky to go down to the day for each episode, although not impossible. But I would honestly recommend watching in order each of the episodes for a series that are back-to-back and not jumping between series, since there are not many ties between the two series, other than the crossovers that I highlighted between them.
So going month by month back and forth between the series would likely be fine. The only month that is crazy is March of 1995, so in that case I'd watch X-Men TAS Season 3, Spider-Man TAS season 2, then go back to X-Men TAS Season 4. You could jump back to X-Men TAS season 4 after the March episodes of Spider-Man TAS season 2, but personally I prefer keeping a storyline intact rather than jumping back and forth too much.
If you do try to break it down by episodes, let me know how it goes. Either way, wishing you an awesome viewing experience. Enjoy!
I just notice something in one of the X-Men Timeline images that Season 4 Episode 16 happens before 15, is that a mistake or did I miss something?
@@jyeenthehyena Good catch...yes, those two are out of order on D+. Ep 15 actually refers back to events in Ep 16. Otherwise D+ is in the correct order though.
Oh my goodness
Was alot of fun putting this together with Titan. Such a great series from the 90's. Hope we get a modern day continuation of it soon!
@@AbitofEverything4U I hope too. But they're did Freshman Year (i like this name) so that bad sign 😭
Yeah, good point. I kinda wish they weren't doing that series and were doing the 90's Spider-Man instead, tbh.
Should've waited for X-Men 97 to end before making this. Now this video is out of date because you now have to add that Peter did in fact find MJ lol
Yup, I certainly thought about waiting, but I wanted people to have the info in the timeline prior to the X-Men 97 finale. In fact, I'll be tying them together in my final X-Men 97 breakdown. And ofc, we knew he'd find MJ (gotta have a happy ending) but the question remaining is how. I really hope we get a revival of the series and can finally learn what all went down. Thanks so much for the feedback on the vid. Really appreciate it!
The RUclips channel panels to pixels broke down the connected universe he pretty ruled out that avengers united they stand and unlimited spider are not cannon to main universe
Very cool...I'll have to check that vid out. Did he say whether Iron Man, F4 and Hulk are part of the same universe?
@@AbitofEverything4U yea he did but there are some some issues with the timelines
Yep, that doesn't surprise me. I'm not sure those series were meant to connect, tbh.
@AbitofEverything4U X-Men: The Animated Series & Spider-Man: The Animated Series are officially listed as Earth-92131
Marvel Action Hour: Iron Man, MAH: The Fantastic Four & The Incredible Hulk series are officially listed as Earth-534834
The other 3 90s Animated Series all exist in their own universes:
•Silver Surfer officially takes place on Earth-634962
•Spider-Man Unlimated officially takes place on Earth-751263
•Avengers: United They Stand officially takes place on Earth-730784
@@mayonyannaise1777 Yep, that's how I view it as well!
I mean the episodes could have come out in a different order they were made like the batman animated series is so the news papers could be the correct Years
Excellent point! Especially with the first season, there is some debate on what order the episodes should be in, so that could definitely be the reason the newspaper dates jump around a bit. However, in some of the later seasons, the episodes are numbered and so we know what the order is supposed to be and the newspapers are still jumping around. So I’m wondering if it was just a miscommunication at some point. But it’s kind of a bummer, because the newspapers would be really helpful if they were consistent. Regardless, it’s one of my favorite animated series, so in the end I just chock it up as a small mistake and focus instead on how great the overall stories are. Thank you so much for watching the video and sharing your thoughts on it. I truly appreciate it!
Spider-Man in this series learns he's a fictional character goes to the "real world" and meets Stan Lee. Peter also remembers everything that happened in Secret Wars
P.s. I don't understand why no one else is bringing this up??
Great observations! I wonder if they will explain all that if they ever give us a revival of the original series. Perhaps he'll forget it all at that point?
I can't watch yet 😂
I've got 5 or 6 episodes left
Edit: 15 days till us members get the Dr Strange emblem 🎉
Oh wow... you are very close to completing the series! And yeah, the Dr. Strange emblem is very cool!
work study = internship = you get paid in college credit, connections and experience NOT money.
I was paid during work study. It’s was capped each semester.
Interesting...so it counts towards college credit. Okay, that makes sense.
@@KenshiroBoss Yeah, it seems like it can go either way. Some people are paid in cash, while others are given college credit for their work. Wild. Can't believe I've never heard of it before.
Clone of Mary Jane was the original WAP?
Okay, I admit to being stumped...what's a WAP? I'm sure I'll kick myself once you explain it.
oof...it may have hit me...if you are referring to a certain song, then, please don't feel the need to explain it.
You can definitely get paid for work study. It's offered as part of your financial aid.
Yeah, that's what I figured as well. I mean, it sure seemed like Peter was doing alot of work when he was teaching those classes. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on that!
Should probably watch this video after the show but what the heck
Hope you felt I kept it spoiler free. I tried my best. My hope was that people that haven't seen the series yet could still watch it and then get an overall understanding of how it fits together with the X-Men show.
@@AbitofEverything4U Yeah, absolutely. You only really covered the dates they mentioned, there wasn’t too much plot stuff. The only real “spoiler” is that MJ gets into trouble a lot, but in a Spiderman show, I feel like that’s a given.
lol...indeed...MJ does indeed get in trouble alot!
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Nicely done!
So wait…what about spider man unlimited, or is that a completely different universe?
To my knowledge, they are not directly tied together. I don't think Unlimited resolves the cliffhanger at the end of season 5, for example...at least not as far as I remember. I may do a vid on the unlimited series to discuss the reasons for and against it being tied to Spider-Man TAS. That could be a good vid.
Based on the beginning of the SMU series it seems like it’s set some time further in the future of SM TAS, if you could please do a recap I’d be very grateful and I’d like to see what others thought of SMU in relation to SM TAS.🤝🏾🫶🏾✌🏾
Yeah, I definitely need to do a vid on it. Excellent suggestion!
23:27 Pretty sure you meant "Black Cat".
lol! I did indeed! Oops!
I think Spider-Man would side with the x men even though technically his not a mutant he is a mutate and I would assume he would have somewhat of a bond with them the only avenger he worked with is Ironman and I guess if you count dr strange
But it would be awesome if we got a revival of spiderman like X-men 97
I agree, I think he would side with the X-Men as well. And I'd love to get a Spider-Man revival series. Fingers crossed Marvel makes it happen!
I Love Your Spider Man Animated Series Timeline You Put alot of Work into it Thanks for Sharing, So Today is Tuesday May 14th Just a Day away from the Finale of X Men 97 it's so Exciting, I Too am Interested to Find out When that Cameo of Spider Man In X Men 97 Takes Place Either Before or After Spider Man Left with Madame Web to Look for Mary Jane.
Thanks for the positive feedback on the vid. Really appreciate it! Yeah, I hope we learn what happened to Spider-Man after that cliffhanger ending!
i really feel like avoiding spoilers in your timeline videos is kind of unproductive. these videos are great but a timeline is inherently a spoiler. anyone who decides to watch a timeline video and also doesnt want spoilers must have some mental issues lol. i love the vids either way, just a suggestion
Yeah, I kinda feel the same way. It's almost not worth the effort to avoid spoilers, since the show has been out since the 90's. However, the main reason I was abit more careful in this case is I think there is likely a decent amount of people that have never seen the Spider-Man 90's show and might still watch the vid to get an overall view of the timeline. But yeah, your point is very valid.
Wonder how they connected all because some 90 show bit not consistent.
Thx to
ruclips.net/video/TObLeQ5r5Co/видео.htmlsi=UkCY7mTXPbs-RxfW
That's videos sooo garbage if you haven't took the time to actually go back and watch these series. Id site someone else tbh
@@marzman4no marvel 90 shows sometimes not consistent
Yeah, I don't see any big issues between the X-Men and Spider-Man shows, but trying to tie in the other shows (Hulk, F4, and Iron Man, as well as Silver Surfer) can be very messy at times. I really think the others aren't part of the same universe, but I'll see what I can find out when I do a deeper dive in those shows.
@@AbitofEverything4U 23:29 black cat
@@MatthewK122 ikr? Can't believe I said Black Widow. D'oh! Clearly I had Natasha of the brain!