Discussing The Use Of Intoxicants. Jedi, Hamza, Kalam, Hussain, Raspect, Abbas, Gabz
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2017
- Speakers Corner 15th October 2017
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Abbas: • Abbas
Kalam: • Kalam
Hussain: • Hussain
Jedi: • Jedi
Gabz: • Gabz
Hamza Myatt: • Hamza Myatt
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dude tells him to put his hand down while he does the the same thing when hes speaking. what an intelligent human being
I've been smoking for years guaranteed raspect was stoned
he even had a lighter
Nuin wrong wid it
Even if he was, that point wasn't relevant
@@TheJoshProject But they dragged it for so long, deadness,
@@iliasstardust9772 I have a lighter , am I stoned
Problem with the Rasta lads is they argue for the sake of arguing......... and let's be honest Raspect looked like he had just puffed a joint or 2!
They argue because they no wen someone talking crap and bless them for being brave enuf to point it out
Tony Gibbs and Hamza the one who uses most logic wasn’t allowed to speak :/
@@IWTBF if he does they know game over 🤷🏾♂️
Bang on pretty much.
fully agreed, the entire Gabs part was just hard to watch. he was just looking for loopholes to spin the discussion instead of understanding the point of the matter.
Your body produce alcohol!!! Uncle has had so much rum that he's dosent buy ıt any longer
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there are two kinds of people in hyde park. people with whom you can have a fruitful and ongoing discussion, and people with whom you're running in circles discussing who said this and who said that.
Exactly brother. Not to mention that when you are "stonned", you do tend to go in circles.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@kutu3029 what lol
Ahmed Asif learn to spell ‘stoned’ brudda
The latter are called Muslims.
“Eat and drink, but be not excessive. Indeed, He does not like the lavish.” (Al-A’raf/The Elevated Place 7:31)
Great but a lot of muslim countries (not because they are muslim I am just talking of the diets of those particular countries) have diets that are high in fat, oil and cream. I bet no muslim is raising this issue at the dinner table though.
Joe Kerr and many Muslim countries involve in music , sadly, doesn’t diminish the point that Islam forbids these
Joe Kerr I’m a Muslim and I make a point of this every time. You can’t just speak for everyone.
Joe Kerr there’s definitely are muslims that do but you raise a fair point to some extent
@@cnsmooth fat doesn't make you fat
carbs do
proven
Hamza asked if they were high? perfectly legitimate question, Raspect had a lighter in his hand at 52:43 - need i say more? I hardly think its to keep him warm....
Absolutley agree with you Mr Ismail
Zamaan Magician and Hamza is the one who uses most logic when debating / talking
Zamaan Magician it was needed to burn your stupid book 😂 hamza is the most delusional out of any of them haha what even is he
He also said raspect looked stoned , but the back tracked, so what if their high 🤔it's none of his business . His a liar 36.28, don't defend something that's 💯 on camera he lied
mashallah bro Hamza, he don't take no nonsense, my brother's iman is firm and strong, he sees a mile away dodgy people with agenda
Brother abbas patience of a saint.
Speakers Corner has turned into the Ganja Smokers Corner, all high and that, now they have that new thing called G Circle aka Ganja Circle, Where they pass spliff joints to each other gathered around in a circle. Hamza has the right not to debate druggies.
Speakers corner are for everyone even homeless people bro
Honestly hamza was slowing the conversation down.
Jedi rudeness is where u come from yo hamza try to shake your hand and your arrogance got the better off you got no value
Abbas is very eloquent. I need to see more of his debates.
Indeed he is more so matured.
Lmao Jedi is one emotional creature always crying about something! Salute to Hamza for standing firm!
Mohamud Ahmed brother there’s no point with these people, they’re are too emotional even on social media 😂
Angel Dorsey Jedi and his team were clearly intoxicated. He can’t have an intellectual conversation without getting too emotional like a little kid.
@Angel Dorsey
Bold male g string wearing pole dancer! Lol
I have to agree on that basis, I wouldn't have the nerve! Lol
Jedi made a fool of the gingerbread man
Jedi made him look a right twat, look at his ginger teeth
Jedi thinks he comes across intelligent. The problem of compound ignorance lol
If you blindly believe /follow a story book that has no actual proof without doing your own research in my humble opinion that is pure ignorance and laziness for that matter...
@@alexmurren6160 Your opinion isn't humble at all lol
Islam Explained neither Was yours “lol”
What you laughing at?
@@LH-nd9qg Jedi thinking he sounds intelligent in the video.
Walaykumsalaam warahmatullah
Islam Explained silence of Hadith.... if you think drinking piss is intelligent. Do your self a favour. Find jesus.
Raspect was clearly stoned lol
I respect Jedi for defending himself and his friend for the "looking stoone" stattement but after that he begins to interrupt a lot and calls them "mouse vooices" he needs to have some manners.
KHALID OUTARI you met the guy to know that ?
@@hussein8496 yes and so have i.
Content over everything, I just want to say , I was reading the title of this video and I was comparing it with the video titles of other channels, and I'm thinking, you either have a big heart, or you are just fair by nature, or both, or it's a matter of character , either way people are noticing this, so I say, may Allah reward you for your sincerity with the best of all rewards.
+Content Over Everything , sincerity is a trait of all great man in the history of humanity, we should all strive on that path and try to stay strong.
33:26 'Because he looks stoned'.
He said it and backtracked.
I dunno why, whats offensive about that.
Joe Kerr I stay there mate
Jedi is a humble guy I like u bruh
The state of mental health in this country just tells you the affect of intoxicants
Slithery slimey techniques - Ras Jedi just put flames to that bluefoot
I don't see why people hate big homie. The guy has cool contribution to most of the videos I've seen him in.
its coz he questions everything and is not a yes man. he caught out the bullshit that hamza and the other guys were doing. Whenever he questioned them and they were wrong they both helped each other to escape and
@@only1miok first of all, you're 5 years late. secondly, all you wrote is rubbish. congrats for this huge engagement on youtube!
@@xKamiiii calm down mate, it doesn't matter how old the video is, I can comment if I want to. go find something newer to comment on if that floats your boat. Stop being a clown, come with a proper argument to debate. Others stfu and carry on.
@@only1miokyou must be a rasta roadman
@@elafzal5866 Belief is subjective. I am not going around trying to force people to believe in what I do nor am I trying to interfere with theirs. I just have a different perspective and I question everything that is said to me. I am not like these plants that sit and just absorb everything the world throws at them regardless if it is a truth or a lie. No i am not a roadman rasta.
Hamza lied at 36:55. He clearly stated "are you high right now, because he looks stoned?"
COE really dissapointed with the foul language used in the comment section from both muslims and non muslims.
It seems like these people get a real kick out of cussing each other...sad kids
Jedi treating Speakers Corner like some fancy dress party
fitprotunes 😂😂
Lol you're funny
fitprotunes fancy dress? U mean costume party
truth ntruth hahahahhahhaha
fitprotunes what about the Muslims who come dressed looking like curtains?
"I'm declaring you're chatting shit"!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hilarious "he looks stoned " fantastic!
"So you're making a group that plans to lead young black youths away from gang violence and gang crime?"
"Yes"
"What is your group called?"
"GANG."
🤣🤣🤦🏾♂️
intellectually they had no chance... Hussain, Hamza and Abbas have far superior knowledge, rational and logic.
i like jedi hes open minded and very wise man .. we watch u from america keep strong and dont give into them
Carol Morris he's smart, but could be smarter 🤓😇🤔
He sounds sooooo stupid 😂😂😂
"Cuz he *looks* stoned"
That's based on his perception, making it *subjective* . Jedi is an emotional brat; there's nothing to prove.
To verify his perception, Hamza therefore *asked* : _Are you guys high right now?_
Al Hazen Thank u.
Nah he assumed he was high he didn't ask that's y he shut up he got caught being stereotypical. Hamza is usually right that's y he sat back in this dialogue cuz he knew he was wrong
Or they simply looked stoned because of their irrationality; there was no assertion made. There was a question, built on an assumption/perception.
@@richlk9901 No,,No,,, How can you say that when the evidence is AS CLEAR AS IT GETS ! I take the side of the evidence only ,and Hamza first asked "are you stone" that's a question
Al Hazen no he said is as a character assassination in order to make his points seem less valuable
Kalam is here for his ego, he’ll use any form of semantics to seem right, lmao a joke, so sick of his face
Please dear muslims Ignore these people this type of attention seeking and it is not benefitting any one.
Don't tell people what to do, unless you want to fight me in my Dojo, and trust me.. you don't want that
plz join my boy band.. its called boys2men..
Wil Waal you lot can only ignore the fact that your kaba stone is pagan. They'll be back...
Wil Waal inbreeding is harmful and stunning women to death is harmful, child marriage is very harmful ?
I go back to this video every now and then just so I can hear him say “the Latino bible”. 💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣somebody help. Can’t stop cackling. 💀✌🏽😂
Btw, I commented about the same thing 8 months ago ✌🏽😆 it’s just sooo good.
Hahahahahaha, you cracked me up 😂😂😂😂
latino heritage bible, look it up
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FYI - Bob Marley said Herb is the healing of a nation - Alcohol is the destruction -
Also the true rasta consumes natural cannabis through stomach and not from smoke
dj manix i could take it as a medical thing, but lets be honest, it would make society lazy and not functional
@@Erec07 The reasoning of both was flawed.
Keith Don What I mean is that it only should be allowed in order to cure diseases
@@Erec07 Fair enough, Still incomplete though.
Abbas always a cool man
After all of that we all know raspect was high. Jedi comes with the dumbest arguments we can eat for free.
Apples in my garden😂😂😂
10:03 is this a hadith? Can someone pls tell me where I can find the full one pls thanks
لا ضرر و لا ضرار
It's a Hadith means Muslim must keep away from what causes harm to them and don't do harm to others
Respect ✊ to that man - he had his on mind - and he’s mind was cool 😎
Jedi is becoming a nuisance. Its obvious Raspect is high. If he wasn't than all you have to say is NO. But no..Jedi had to drop a 5000 word dessitation on the matter. Other than that; this conversation was fruitful.
Exactly LOL! He's hour long defense speaks volumes smh!
Peripheral Vision what's high got to do with it, the Muslims still lost the argument. Need to smoke weed instead of kaba rock stone and wake up. Only crackheads kiss rocks in this city I'm from.
Peripheral Vision we know you are now on jediiis case.....dont play yourself....jedii isnt Sa ra nor kallam.
Its not racist or prejudice. Raspect looks stoned. When someone appears to be drunk...you ask them have you had alcohol to drink. Don't you? Hamza didn't say I bet you guys are high or anything like that. His question was have you guys been smoking weed.
How did Muslims lose the argument? The argument agains drinking in this video and in general make more sense than those for drinking alcohol. Alcohol is as bad as cocaine. Alcohol leads to alot of violent crimes. Alcohol related disease is draining the NHS. The cons for drinking alcohol far outweigh the pros so therefore in our religion it is forbidden.
Abbas threw hamza under the bus by agreeing with jedi
Rifat Amal cuz hamza was wrong bro he let his ego take over instead of giving dawah
how come i miss this one. the lion HAMZA HERE!!!1
that other guy looked off his face. Hamza was totally within his rights to ask and say he didn't want to discuss with someone stoned. Abas on the other hand being too goody goody wasnt correct in saying Hamza was out of order to ask that question.
Brother hamza. I love you for the of allah swt. A lion in speakers corner
I agree with Hamza. Raspect sounds like and looks like he's high. His question was totally justified. Their response to the question proves that they might have been high during this.
The guy with the beard sounds exactly like Hamza
I can't get the time back that I spent watching this 😅
Unbelievable
Jedi needs professional help, I’ve never seen such a deluded individual
He believes he can bully everyone
His parents must be ashamed of him
The reason all these so called Rasta use a fake name
sajid mahmood..... Lol....
What are you talking about bro ,In his culture and religion it’s acceptable to smoke but because it’s Illegal in England you jump on it .In Amsterdam they strongly advise you not to smoke cigarettes because it’s more harmful than weed ,in Jamaica it is imbedded in their culture,in Spain it’s now legal .my point is even though I’ve given it up ...is that being stoned doesn’t mean you can’t hold a conversation ,usually alcohol is the culprit for that
Knowledge King: you couldnt be a bigger juxtaposition of a name, just shut the fuck up if you arent going to make any sense.
All Muslims hurt Jedi and all non Muslims hurt Muslims 🤣
think you will find most muslim use fake name..at least hes not wearing a dress..he is a bully if you let him
Don’t ever argue with idiots, they drag you down to there level and beat you with experience. Those guys weren’t there to learn, they were there to make stupid points and waste time.
Jedi has a lot of respect for Abbas you can tell by the way he addresses him.
When was paper invented?
I don’t need to be a doctor to know if some one is stoned 😅
Respect hit the nail on the head .love the earth .jedi ,raspect tell it straight .more power to them .Bless !
Interesting debate to listen to! 👂👍
may Allah open their hearths to the truth and islam Amen
Wanna get 10k+ views just put Hamza as thumbnail.
I learnt nothing from this debate! Why upload it?
Asad lion I leant these certain Muslims won’t answer a straight question and won’t let a man speak.
L H straight question ? I don't think that was a straught question cause he refuted categorically to answer to a simple what do you mean by torah cause as we see jesus differently from cristians sometimes someome need to clarify what he means
You're not meant to learn anything from these debates ,
L H facts they just dance and tip toe around the topics
By that logic almost all the debate videos from speakers corner wouldn't be uploaded. The vast majority of these "debates" are emotional chest beating and interrupted sentences from all sides.
Sallam brother and Eid Mubarak .
1 question is weed haram .
If it is then how?
Please really need answer thq
Weed is not haram smoke smoke smoke
Return of the Jedi ⚔️
Hamza did say that respect was STONE and he said I don't debate people who are stone. Hamza back paddling smh
He was asked he thinker raspect was stoned and replied that he looked as if he was. Absolutely nothing wrong with what he said.
His a liar Hamza
Hamza said he *looked* stoned
LMAO Hamza's face looked totally embarrassed when Jedi put him in his place about his "you look high" comment, you would of thought he would have learnt off his other muslim brother when he said it to Jedi lol
He said “I’ll leave it to Abbas” because he is truly and truly doing this for the sake of Allah.
He cares more that the truth gets to Jedi than the cares about himself getting one over him”
Argument just for the sake of argument gets you exactly NOWHERE!
"Ya body produce alcohol, ya body produces alcohol! Come on..!" LMAO🤣🤣🤣
He has a small point. If it was such a deadly intoxicant that God himself thought we shouldnt even touch if it was in a container, then he wouldn't have it as one of the needed substances in the body.
Son Goku not all type of alcohol are intoxicants, people love to argue just to argue
@@tbr9990 You are wrong. Alcohol is alcohol. If you intake a big amount of any type of alcohol you will become inebriated. The alcohol in your body just isn't in high enough quantities to do that, although there are some syndromes where the body does turn particular food into alcohol and the person can get drunk despite not eating anything.
www.healthline.com/health/auto-brewery-syndrome
Joe Kerr intoxicant doesn't mean alcohol, the islamic perspective is about intoxicants ... you can't just take a sindrome and aply that particular case to the rest of humanity ... that is true yes but simply doesn't change anything
omg, alcohol itself isnt haram it is the intoxicative effects of it. Using alcohol for medicinal purposes isnt haram and if it is found inside the body, a small amount for a certain function it does not disprove Islam either. arguing for the sake of arguing instead of understanding a simple point.
Profound truth from Jedi at 29:48-30:28 check that!
What about overeating during the time of Ramadan?
Slithery and slimy!! Perfect description for Darren
Hamza was dead wrong to make that assumption about the brother by saying he look high and then start back tracking. Deflate your pride hamza and apologize. Alhumdulilah
No he wasn't he was perfectly right.
@@stilowarka1234
is your name saying:ستيلو و ورقة?
or im i imagining things
These funny guys better respect hamza ill fly from the states and take care of biz
I mean ill slap that stupid ass hat off his head and take a dread off
@Ayod2k7 oi Hamza's battyboy lover your too broke to afford the flight. what would happen if you came U.K. Is you'd get your head buss, stomp out n sent back to America in a wheel chair and that's facts fuckboy.
Ay j cole lover behave and tell your little boys in halloween costumes to behave and what would happen is he would never come back like sara
Ayod2k7 your only bad on computers 😂 take a dread lol
Ayod2k7 what could you do about a black tall man? Hahah
I think that Abbas is the most eloquent, well spoken and respectful person on speaker corner but there are many who show disrespect to him
Jeddi was right to get angry with Hamza but he showed class in dealing with it respect to you and Br Abbas love
Hamza,Hussein and Abbas shouldnt waste time with this trollers.They Dont need guidance they are just here to misguide others.
BURHAN DAWAH MAN we don't need guidance to a pagan rock, only crackhead kiss rocks
Baba Dulay we kiss the black stone as action of sunnah, but, do we worship the black stone or think it's Allah?
IslamfromGod1 you kiss a sin fillied stone, I believe that is shirk as you add and join a pagan Arab fertility idol to God. moses would never kiss a rock nor any other real prophets.
Baba Dulay we kiss many things, and who told you it's filled of sins? How a stone can be filled of sins? By da way I think you are Kemit and you are the one who really don't mind kissing pagan stones gods of the pharaonic ppl.
IslamfromGod1 you tell me, it says black with sin and kiss many things? You kiss a pagan rock, nothing more nothing less. I'm not kemet, I believe in 1 God.
I like gabz.. sincere brother who wants to truly understand. Biggup my brother..
This shot can not go down in the USA ever
Jedi you won my brother
Jedi bogs down arguments by going on tangents and bringing up things that are not essential to the original question. Instead of sticking to the issue of whether alcohol does more harm than good and under what circumstances he wants to talk about how environment-friendly iskam is.
the whole of gang does this mostly
Hamza was complaining about raspect having drugs in his system, what about if he took medication, isn’t that allowed! To me it looked like tactics getting out of a debate lol
Lol what are chances it was for medication lol
You definitly dont know the difference of weed and medicines. Let me guess, ure black?
Why doesn't Jedi have a body?! Just a floating face and hands.
Why he is wearing camo?
The Title should have been - Stay Woke - Smoke the Herb (Greener) - Silence of the Lambs!!!!
Bring back the brown hamza
Food is free. I learned something today
At 42:55 when he mentioned jesus christ hamza eyes light up and ears raised and shoulders up just itching to tear them apart, it's his specialty.. 😂
39:51 look what at hamza’s face when he realised his brother even caught onto his lie😂😂
I really can't stand Hamza's argument style anymore. His personality has become completely infected by his ego, as you can tell by the constant interruptions and petty sophistry.
"Can you define Torah? What do you mean 'the Torah'?"
I don't know who in their rational mind would even consider employing this tactic without knowingly sacrificing all of their intellectual honesty / self respect.
Of course, he's shaitan and they don't even recognise it. Muslims are humble and submissive; he's just arrogant and racist.
They want you to define the subject so they can make an argument based on a very narrow definition of what that thing is, even when common sense and life experience tells you that it isnt that simple and the definition you might have come up with at the begining of the debate no longer is completely valid on certain points.
By the way a lot of these tactics arent just things the individuals happened to develop. They are know tools of debating.
@@soul2soul4 OK brother I don't like Darren/Hamza to but is it necessary to call him shaytan? That's too far.
That dirty rasta needs a slap chatting ber shit
The guy wearing the military outfit is an absolute clown hows a 40yr old dressing like that😂😂😂
I would love to see brother raspect's view on this video now
That’s like saying you can’t say stealing is a bad thing and its forbidden because as long you’re not stealing from somebody who doesn’t deserve it your ok, it’s not the stealing in itself that is bad.
Obviously it’s bad and forbidden because it’s a generally bad action.
White guy looks like a under cover info collectors.. good build tho
Shout out to the true black brothers in SC✊🏾👑
Damnnnnn you been around since then cuzzy
This combat guy is good speaker
overeating food is harmful long term, but not on the scale that alcohol is short term, medium term, long term, physically, mentally, emotionally, socially. Thus they are quite rightly treated differently
If i were Jedi i would go to Jomanji movie audition. He fits the jungle pretty well.
Hamza bro.. u shud of just apologised for the statement. What would it matter if mans are stoned or not. As long as conversation can flow its all good. Unfortunately personal issues started to creep in and it ended being a long discussion on nothin .
onebludz, apologise for what ?
i asked if he was high, the reason i asked is that i don't debate those people who are intoxicated whether its drugs or alcohol.
the reason i thought he was high is.
1. i could smell weed
2. by the look in his eyes he looked stoned
3. he is Rastafari and i know weed is part of their flex.
i wasn't insulting him, unless you think asking a Rasta if he is stoned is an insult 🤔
#Refuted. I think now you should apology for your statement
#Refuted. I think now you should apology for your statement
EFDawah you crumbled in desperation 😂 like a biscuit
EFDawah
Before the alcohol ban the prophet Muhammad peace be upon him ,talked to drunk people all the time.
Just because someone is drunk or stoned it doesn't mean they cannot be reasonable or truthful and hold a conversation.
Before i became a muslim i smoked alot of weed. It was in smoked filled rooms that i first heard people talking about islam. I do not smoke weed now and enjoy a clear head..! My point is for me it is a little bit arrogant and for want of a better word.. snobby.. to say , with your nose in the air ," i dont talk to intoxicated people"..
By the way im a fan of your channel.. keep up the good work... but stay grounded.. 😉.. our blessed prophet peace be upon him had his head in the heavens... but his feet firmly on the ground.
When da white guy says he looks stoned and Gabz cracks up man bloody comedy show this stuff is priceless!!!!
It doesn't matter how long it takes to answer a question, all that matters is that the question is answered
Lmao Hamza got dragged. Those tactics didn't work here
JEDI was thoroughly exposed in this video. He was totally owned and was acting like a weirdo using f word in a conversation with a man like Abbas. Utterly disgusting.
My G jedi is always the same and don't act like you fake Muslims. Abbas don't know the quran or hadith enough, video proved it. Rasta ital is more healthy than halal and hamza had to bring up weed for no reason, still got put in his place😂
My G your writing words that don't add up to what I just witnessed. Hamza got exposed and embarrassed by abbas and abbas can't answer a question without bulls hit explanations no one cares about. Plus Muslims kiss rocks so already lost 😂
jedi should join the boys scout, he looks like something form the predetor movie.
Was that guy hiding in the blushes