"What is your belief"? Ali Dawah and Br Mohammed debate Sara. Speakers Corner

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  • Опубликовано: 17 сен 2016

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  • @blueband8114
    @blueband8114 11 месяцев назад +66

    The black guy is correct. Absolutely destroyed any counter argument placed.

    • @Shahzeb1988
      @Shahzeb1988 5 месяцев назад +2

      Ok…. Opinions are like assholes, everyones got one. Guy was literally arguing for arguments sake. Bumping his head on a brick wall. Going no where.

    • @Ekopasterpraiseyah
      @Ekopasterpraiseyah 5 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@Shahzeb1988the tall guy is puppet he just want portrayed an image and always searching for approval from people around to feel he is winning, pathetic

    • @hajirahabbasi2570
      @hajirahabbasi2570 5 месяцев назад

      No he wasn't, he intellectually didn't understand what they were saying to him. Due to the lack of understanding, by Sara's logic, the answer didn't exist. He would have only understood them if they gave him the answer he wanted. He kept on talking about subjective but expected objective answers for his small mind to fathom.

    • @markorbit4752
      @markorbit4752 3 месяца назад +2

      @@hajirahabbasi2570 They tried to avoid answering his questions directly and he did not allow them to beat around the bush.

    • @hajirahabbasi2570
      @hajirahabbasi2570 3 месяца назад +1

      @@markorbit4752 Sara is lost, he bases his beliefs on his own understanding alone. He clearly doesn't have the mental capacity to understand Hijab and therefore couldn't say a word. He's not only disrespectful to others'beliefs but also ignorant. He started to attack Hijab on a personal level because he had nothing else to say. Go watch Sara's other debates. All terrible.

  • @anthonybenjamin3444
    @anthonybenjamin3444 7 лет назад +85

    In my humble opinion I think this is the best debate I have seen via RUclips from speakers corner.

    • @Reason_over_Dogma
      @Reason_over_Dogma 7 лет назад +11

      why is that? I think it's horribly to have two against one

    • @madedigital
      @madedigital 7 лет назад +1

      Reason over Dogma i think two mouths have a slight advantage over one mouth, that just common sense and a conversation tends to work better that way with a clearer outcome in terms of staying on topic... in any case its an advantage ie two horses are better than one, and so on. I dont think thats very difficult to figure out.Its not about brains it just the fact they can throw twice as much questions at him to defer them from answering his.which they do.

    • @Reason_over_Dogma
      @Reason_over_Dogma 7 лет назад +3

      AR 23​ I meant I think it's horrible to have two on one. Not u think. Typo on my phone. Lol

    • @madedigital
      @madedigital 7 лет назад +1

      Reason over Dogma got ya lol

    • @lanehassan6017
      @lanehassan6017 2 года назад

      Sorry to be so off topic but does someone know of a tool to log back into an Instagram account..?
      I was stupid forgot my login password. I love any tricks you can offer me

  • @stepbak123
    @stepbak123 5 лет назад +83

    Ali looks like he’s doing sign language when he speaks

    • @dongadon8697
      @dongadon8697 4 года назад

      LOL

    • @higurk
      @higurk 4 года назад +2

      I'm not surprised Ali looks autistic.

    • @higurk
      @higurk 4 года назад

      @RealGodsTruth yeh I'm neither Muslim nor Christian.

    • @higurk
      @higurk 4 года назад

      @RealGodsTruth you're definitely on cocaine. Can you tell me the name of your dealer as I need some.

    • @higurk
      @higurk 4 года назад +2

      @RealGodsTruth I believe in no gods. All religion is made up.

  • @peterc3143
    @peterc3143 2 года назад +69

    Sa Ra, is such a great guy.
    Keep up the good work 👍

    • @agostocobain2729
      @agostocobain2729 2 года назад +3

      This debate was terrible. I have a headache no joke.

    • @Sayithowitis9
      @Sayithowitis9 9 месяцев назад +2

      You’re so sad Sara

    • @Shahzeb1988
      @Shahzeb1988 5 месяцев назад +1

      Ok…. Opinions are like assholes, everyones got one. Guy was literally arguing for arguments sake. Bumping his head on a brick wall. Going no where.

  • @MreenGreenn
    @MreenGreenn 6 лет назад +58

    44:02
    Sa Ra: You two came as a twin
    Ali: You come as triplets sometimes
    I'm dead 😂

  • @B15SDMDESIGNS
    @B15SDMDESIGNS 7 лет назад +406

    Why is Sa Ra always asking for them to bring evidence or proof but yet cannot do the same with his own belief?

    • @UltimateUtopia
      @UltimateUtopia 7 лет назад +49

      Because they are peddling it as the only truth and factual information, follow me or you go to hellfire thats why! We are right everybody else in the whole world is wrong.

    • @SaRaGarvey2012
      @SaRaGarvey2012 7 лет назад +67

      You are so BASIC.
      I'm not saying my belief is a fact! That's why! Do you know the difference between a knowing and a belief?

    • @B15SDMDESIGNS
      @B15SDMDESIGNS 7 лет назад +21

      Im basic? Okay.
      In pretty much every single one of your videos you are the one claiming to be the superior being/race. So what makes you different from the people who follow any religion?

    • @SaRaGarvey2012
      @SaRaGarvey2012 7 лет назад +35

      B15... A belief doesn't require evidence. I could believe in fairies and unicorns. It's a BELIEF not a fact!
      If you are saying something is a FACT then you require evidence to back it up

    • @purereflections6009
      @purereflections6009 7 лет назад +11

      +Sa Ra Garvey you said you watched the video more than 3 times, but you are still unable to disprove one of three premises Muhammad provided you with in order to reach an objective reality, not a subjective one

  • @carolcurtis1573
    @carolcurtis1573 3 года назад +10

    Sa Ra outclassed you both

  • @miketaylor1124
    @miketaylor1124 3 года назад +23

    2 against Sara and they came out looking a tad deluded 🤐

  • @shaywhelan4354
    @shaywhelan4354 6 лет назад +78

    Is this a comedy... I laughed when Ali said am I your ancestor.. These guys. Comedy gold.

  • @naseemqasto8385
    @naseemqasto8385 5 лет назад +14

    Hijab's pride is his downfall..

  • @wassm945
    @wassm945 5 лет назад +16

    They couldn’t argue with Sara what he was saying is true. Big up Sara in the up rising of black people.

    • @MohsinAli-jt5rk
      @MohsinAli-jt5rk 3 года назад +3

      What has black got to do with anything?

    • @NamaRauqos04595
      @NamaRauqos04595 Месяц назад

      black people are not a monolith. why do you assume that he speaks for black people?

  • @yasinagalis983
    @yasinagalis983 6 лет назад +3

    New to this channel but I must say as much as I enjoyed listening to them go back and forth.. I love the way Ali responds and comments he's so funny in a good way in good way of course:-))

  • @adulthumanfemale8666
    @adulthumanfemale8666 7 лет назад +17

    If you understood what I was saying, you understood what I was saying. That was fuckin' brilliant.

    • @soothingseas
      @soothingseas Год назад

      AdultHumanFemale 😂

    • @Kemet3.0
      @Kemet3.0 7 месяцев назад

      Sara is correct...
      From the Scientific point-of-view using the Big Bang Theory and the Steady-State Theory, the Universe originated from matter and energy leading into the formation of the Universe.
      Energy is part of us. If you hold your hand up and hold it against another close, you will feel the heat and energy and tingle pulse.

  • @blakegriffin172
    @blakegriffin172 5 лет назад +98

    The fact that Sara exists proves that his ancestors exist. Why can't they grasp this simple fact

    • @KaMasno
      @KaMasno 4 года назад +3

      How did Mr. Sara's ancestors exist...?.
      Thanks.

    • @zainhottson7393
      @zainhottson7393 4 года назад +7

      "Existed" or "used to exist once upon a time" not just "exist"

    • @smoovieab4093
      @smoovieab4093 4 года назад

      @barry williams nah u

    • @HIQ45
      @HIQ45 4 года назад +6

      Yes cause and effect, religious people use cause and effect to prove God

    • @mandytesfahaber3851
      @mandytesfahaber3851 4 года назад

      @@KaMasno huh??

  • @contymokala5213
    @contymokala5213 2 года назад +14

    This remain the best debate i have ever watched.. Can't get enough of it😅

  • @IosebDzhugashvili
    @IosebDzhugashvili 6 лет назад +14

    This is amazing. More debates like this please.

  • @user-ve5qn7zr4p
    @user-ve5qn7zr4p 6 лет назад +16

    He touches coz he likes to be in control of people like him. These lot just try n talk over people and intimidate. Well done sa ra.

  • @KhalidAli-jc7cv
    @KhalidAli-jc7cv 5 лет назад +38

    Ali dawa is useless to this debate
    He is standing there just saying stupid stuff

  • @laylawray8818
    @laylawray8818 2 года назад +7

    No matter what sara said they twisted it you were hitting them with facts good man

  • @dansawicki4982
    @dansawicki4982 Год назад +77

    This guy literally owned them for nearly two hours..

    • @strength7135
      @strength7135 8 месяцев назад +4

      He really didn't mohammed hijab intellectually dominated him and had him cornered 😅 also he need a lesson on the words he uses

    • @Bila786x
      @Bila786x 7 месяцев назад +3

      LMAO we must’ve been watching a different video they were playing with him for 2 hours making him show the flaws in his argument

    • @user-gq6ds8wi4y
      @user-gq6ds8wi4y 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@Bila786x😂😂😂👌

    • @ionelupsky
      @ionelupsky 6 месяцев назад +3

      Send me the link, I couldn’t find that in this video… 🫢

    • @Karizma231
      @Karizma231 6 месяцев назад

      Lol

  • @stuarth1996
    @stuarth1996 7 лет назад +232

    What was the point of Ali debating here, he just kept interrupting the debate between Mohammed and Sara. Ali's interjections didn't bring much to the table at all. If we are talking about Islam, Mohammed seems to know much more than Ali. Ali should of just left these two to it. Mohammed is one of the best debaters in Hyde Park and clearly very intelligent. But he needs to understand that not all people are muslim and that not all people appreciate being touched so frequently.

    • @stuarth1996
      @stuarth1996 7 лет назад +17

      NAYEM SCORPION Compare Ali to Mohammed. Ali is really emotional, gets frustrated and even angry at times. Raises his voice and can be sarcastic. In general, Ali can't debate very well and debates because he is so emotional and passionate about Islam. Mohammed on the other hand is cool, calm and collected. He is polite and doesn't get emotionally riled. He is respectful and he clearly has a lot of knowledge on Islam and science. Ali ruined this debate for Mohammed.

    • @stuarth1996
      @stuarth1996 7 лет назад +7

      NAYEM SCORPION I haven't listeed to Sara before. But he started off with a legitimate argument, but he then got caught out and didn't have a response. Athiests can't disprove god. Sara's point about Mohammed having understood him despite Sara using the wrong terminology was so flawed. Mohammed understood Sara not because he took what he said literally word for word, but because he guessed what Sara is getting at. If you want to talk facts, then you have to explain everything that you mean. Running away from explaining what you fully mean is a cheap cop out. That's when Mohammed won the debate in my opinion. If Sara had fully explained himself and exactly what he meant, then we would of continued with an interesting debate. But Sara had no answer to Mohammed's question and replied with a poor response.

    • @spoolindsm127
      @spoolindsm127 7 лет назад +7

      Unfortunately I have to agree as well. It's making it hard to follow the debate when he keeps interjecting. He should have stayed quiet.

    • @Reason_over_Dogma
      @Reason_over_Dogma 7 лет назад +5

      I find it funny everyone is criticizing ali. He's the one who originally was talking to sa ra in the first place and he was most humble of them all. He's not afraid to say I don't know but his points didn't make sense.

    • @jasminbulet4368
      @jasminbulet4368 7 лет назад

      i agree with you.he was the most honest... but I did understand his points..a bit batty, and simplistic.

  • @abu129
    @abu129 6 лет назад +49

    Ali, man, you need to debate peacefully without stress or interjecting every 2 seconds habeeb.

  • @indigenous5210
    @indigenous5210 5 лет назад +16

    3:32 Ali had me laughing ..."I believe in myself"

  • @12thecableguy
    @12thecableguy 5 лет назад +23

    this is absolutely brilliant! a genuine argument! they can't get there head around this

    • @Shahzeb1988
      @Shahzeb1988 5 месяцев назад

      Ok…. Opinions are like assholes, everyones got one. Guy was literally arguing for arguments sake. Bumping his head on a brick wall. Going no where.

  • @travellinguk6875
    @travellinguk6875 6 лет назад +14

    When a person tells you, i believe in this God and in this book just leave him alone, no hope there you are just wasting your time and they will not accept any kind of logic, But respect Sa Ra for trying and i liked his points of view.

  • @1slamExplained
    @1slamExplained 7 лет назад +152

    His argument is that "energy" created the world and that this energy always existed, firstly his argument is based upon what we know from GCSE science let a lone something more substantial (without mocking) i.e. that energy can not be created or destroyed, as the brother pointed out "within" the universe. Secondly he claims that this energy created his ancestors, if it did then that energy had a "will", he would possibly point out that it just changed one would ask why?...what evidence does he have that "energy" which has no will, mind, reasoning to bring something into existence and how would it bring about a complex human being into existence let alone a human but the universe we live in.
    If i'm getting his argument, he dismisses God but acknowledges a creator for his ancestors but then makes out that his ancestors are superior since they were bought into existence due to that energy. So one would say his God is energy.

    • @jointhe6461
      @jointhe6461 7 лет назад +4

      "'within' the universe" ...You have to define this term very carefully. For example, does the universe mean all of the phenomenal world, all of reality, or only a part of it?

    • @guri009bajwa1
      @guri009bajwa1 6 лет назад

      he was talking about sexual energy

    • @guri009bajwa1
      @guri009bajwa1 6 лет назад +2

      and energy comes from food you can try on muslims also lol.

    • @a1.70
      @a1.70 6 лет назад

      Energy can be destroyed though, the universe will have extremely low energy levels after the black hole era which will fill the universe with black holes but even these black holes will evaporate in time. What happens when everything dies is speculative

    • @rain-yg6lt
      @rain-yg6lt 6 лет назад +1

      Lucifer Energy cannot be created, nor destroyed, only changed from one form to another. Basic Physics. A black hole should emit energy from it's boundaries.

  • @lionnine1133
    @lionnine1133 3 года назад +33

    This 1s legendary. Always come back to laugh 😂

    • @deetee4403
      @deetee4403 Год назад +4

      Yup, it came back on my timeline and it was as great as it was then😂 SaRa destroyed them using their own beliefs

    • @BrakaInu
      @BrakaInu 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@deetee4403 yes specially when sara talks about the ancestors, it usually happens when u too much on crack HAHAHAHA

    • @deetee4403
      @deetee4403 10 месяцев назад

      @@BrakaInu but at the same time you talk about your North African invading ancestors like they were heros...also, don't forget...your R Kelly prophet, was speaking to himself in the cave...#dummy

    • @Shahzeb1988
      @Shahzeb1988 5 месяцев назад

      Ok…. Opinions are like assholes, everyones got one. Guy was literally arguing for arguments sake. Bumping his head on a brick wall. Going no where.

    • @Shahzeb1988
      @Shahzeb1988 5 месяцев назад

      @@deetee4403stupid people on youtube… enjoy meaningless debates

  • @gamesmaster919
    @gamesmaster919 2 года назад +3

    This was enjoyable, the funny thing is all three of them have very good arguments lol

  • @hazelhadley-britt6396
    @hazelhadley-britt6396 6 лет назад +35

    We ARE our Ancestors! Absolutely correct!

    • @samiaziz58
      @samiaziz58 5 лет назад

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @samiaziz58
      @samiaziz58 5 лет назад

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @AN-it8dp
      @AN-it8dp 5 лет назад

      Hazel Hadley-Britt Empirically prove it ?

    • @SweetOne968
      @SweetOne968 4 года назад +3

      A N, you have the genes of your ancestors. If this is not enough, him existing today logically means that his ancestors had to be alive to give birth to him and same goes for his parents.

  • @2050hd
    @2050hd 7 лет назад +7

    The guy made a valid point if Allah is the only thing existed then so did universe .

  • @Pablodavo1
    @Pablodavo1 5 лет назад +18

    Sa Ra smashed it. I totally respect and love this guy.

  • @azhaniaorgena6941
    @azhaniaorgena6941 3 года назад +39

    As an ex muslim, all these levels of intellectual sphere Sara is taking muslims are so new to them. These are things that are never taught or allowed in madrassas. Critical thinking is forbidden in madrassas and muslim communities. Watch both Hijab and Ali faces when Sara asked them if Allah is SUBJECTIVE or OBJECTIVE. The look on their faces is priceless! That was the A-ha moment for them. That question really hit them. The question of the difference between Objective, Subjective, Belief and Knowledge is new to majority of muslims. This is like so alien to them. They NEVER thought of such things.

    • @MohsinAli-jt5rk
      @MohsinAli-jt5rk 3 года назад +5

      What sect were you from if you’re an “ex Muslim” funny how you make that your personality trait lmao

    • @azhaniaorgena6941
      @azhaniaorgena6941 3 года назад +5

      @@MohsinAli-jt5rk I was a sunni. My family are still Sunnis.

    • @MohsinAli-jt5rk
      @MohsinAli-jt5rk 3 года назад

      @@azhaniaorgena6941 I’ve seen your comments. You’re a troll and you spread hate. You ain’t no Sunni.

    • @theaviationist.5719
      @theaviationist.5719 2 года назад +5

      As an Ex muslim myself I concur. I am now an agnostic atheist and have been treated to these philosophical arguments by since 2017 by the atheist RUclips platforms.. Sa Ra was not very sophisticated here in 2016 but compared to the guys he was debating he absolutely had the better and honest arguments. That's my opinion ofcourse..

    • @nox1772
      @nox1772 10 месяцев назад

      You don’t , and haven’t ever known the history of muslims. These topics are normal throughout history.
      Just because your sheep acquaintances gave you a different image, doesn’t mean islam is shallow 😂.
      This guy talking like muslims are 50 iq.
      Maybe you’re 50 iq because that’s how you percieved it.
      If you even knew the knowledge behind majmaul bahrain, you’d feel like a fool for saying this rubbish.

  • @wiilwaal4224
    @wiilwaal4224 7 лет назад +65

    This guy called sara showed us, you can make an argument out of anything.
    what a wast of time?

    • @MsSteeldog
      @MsSteeldog 7 лет назад +1

      It's what they do. It amounts to nothing but gibberish. Some people have let white racism run them to this crap.

    • @jmurdock8303
      @jmurdock8303 7 лет назад

      Trius f liar

    • @yaboi-rx4eq
      @yaboi-rx4eq 6 лет назад +1

      y u comparing khawarij to muslims lmao?

  • @trueicecoldfire
    @trueicecoldfire 7 лет назад +129

    Sa Ra is communicating to hi's ancestors , meaning he hears voices in hi's head.

    • @SaRaGarvey2012
      @SaRaGarvey2012 7 лет назад +19

      No... I see dead people

    • @mihailomikel3341
      @mihailomikel3341 7 лет назад +9

      +Sa Ra Garvey
      Dont let Bruce Willis hear that or he might want to make a sequal...

    • @SaRaGarvey2012
      @SaRaGarvey2012 7 лет назад +18

      Prove what? Lol. You guys are sooooo dense!
      It's subjective, it's cannot be proven objectively. Just like your Allah can't be proven objectively.
      Welcome to the Crazy side of life 😂

    • @SaRaGarvey2012
      @SaRaGarvey2012 7 лет назад +13

      All this time you guys thought you weren't crazy... You thought you had a superior type of crazy
      WRONG!
      You're just as mad as the rest of the world.

    • @ballshippin3809
      @ballshippin3809 7 лет назад +10

      @ Sa Ra. Much respect to you mate. You can tell that after 15 minutes in the debate that both of them were running out of ideas and decided to regurgitate the same arguments. I wish you more victories in the future!

  • @alsononaztee5039
    @alsononaztee5039 8 месяцев назад +3

    Belief is in the 'mind' of the beholder.

  • @westlondon8792
    @westlondon8792 10 месяцев назад +7

    Please fast forward to 31:38 !!!
    I’ve never seen Mohammed hijab silenced in such a fashion… you can see in his facial expressions and body language he has been snookered and has no way out 😂
    Great work SaRa once again!

    • @taoufiqbenallah9029
      @taoufiqbenallah9029 9 месяцев назад

      Yes, he found no solution and decided to attack by the ancestors, Sa Ra has the character that MO HIJAB Can't deal with

    • @munax-pd9tu
      @munax-pd9tu 7 месяцев назад

      @@taoufiqbenallah9029what is going on…he makes no sense lolll

  • @arrynbeacon8077
    @arrynbeacon8077 7 лет назад +13

    SA actually won this debate

  • @Vulsivek
    @Vulsivek 7 лет назад +4

    I love it when bro mohammed says "this is quite embarrassing".

  • @CriticalShot1
    @CriticalShot1 2 года назад +3

    Honest to god this was the funniest shit I've seen all day. If I were high I would have died from laughter

  • @jenry.wtuvalap9073
    @jenry.wtuvalap9073 3 года назад +8

    SaRa is educating the 2 muslims logically... lol

    • @ramzy7330
      @ramzy7330 3 года назад +1

      yes, the guy who thinks he literally is his ancestors while at the same time he is in contact with his ancestors is educating people.🤦‍♂️

    • @ally036music6
      @ally036music6 3 года назад +2

      thats why he had nothing to say in the end and mohammed hijab finished him off xD

  • @paulwilliamson9457
    @paulwilliamson9457 6 лет назад +42

    Sa Ra made absolute sense, only if they agree their whole world falls to pieces. Well put SaRa

    • @firas6276
      @firas6276 3 года назад

      YES Subjective sense oh yesss I love it " subjectivity " it all makes sense

    • @elmi9353
      @elmi9353 3 года назад +4

      If you think he made sense then I feel sorry for you 😐

    • @tobi4637
      @tobi4637 3 года назад +4

      Sa ra believe he speak to ancestors.. thats is stupid.. emotional arguement..

    • @ghyslaindesintat496
      @ghyslaindesintat496 8 месяцев назад

      Mohammed is Ali’s puppet , we all know this but common sense in his tiny mind isn’t common hahaha

  • @prometheus3565
    @prometheus3565 7 лет назад +45

    Ali dawah: STOP!! LEMME SAY SOMETHING, I NEED TO SAY SOMETHING!!! *IGNORED* MOHAMMAD! MOHAMMAD! I NEED TO SAY SOMETHING! *THEY CONTINUE TO IGNORE* HEY HEY!! LET ME FINISH LET MEEEEE FINISH!!! MOHAMMAD MOHAMMAD LET MR FINIIISHHHH!!! *IGNORED*

    • @mboocock77
      @mboocock77 5 лет назад +1

      Was gunna read this but ignored it,pull your big boy pants up and stop crying persecution

    • @lionnine1133
      @lionnine1133 3 года назад

      😂💀

  • @MK-wt2sp
    @MK-wt2sp 5 лет назад +11

    This guy owned Ali bigtime

    • @Shahzeb1988
      @Shahzeb1988 5 месяцев назад

      Ok…. Opinions are like assholes, everyones got one. Guy was literally arguing for arguments sake. Bumping his head on a brick wall. Going no where.

  • @PiperTMTotalWar
    @PiperTMTotalWar 4 года назад +6

    Ali Dawar trying to debate in the adult conversation; the bit when he brought in the socks argument lmao

  • @sunnysdelights8023
    @sunnysdelights8023 2 года назад +21

    It's 2022 and I came back to re-watch this classic. I really like Sara and take my hat of to him. There is so much that we all don't know really.

    • @sittienakan1594
      @sittienakan1594 2 года назад +5

      Yeah, I thought Sara won this one. Although I do disagree with him, I think that his points were just better stated and managed to solidify his point more. Hijab did a good job of countering and defending, but Sara was just better. As for Ali, he didn't really do much. But I did find it weird and funny how Hijab kept touching Sara.

    • @raymondjefferson2514
      @raymondjefferson2514 Год назад

      Thats why Allah sent us the Quran.

    • @raymondjefferson2514
      @raymondjefferson2514 Год назад

      He can fall into the mode like the Pharoah, who lost out with Moses.

  • @SUPERHUMAN2011
    @SUPERHUMAN2011 7 лет назад +20

    Well done Sara. You did super well.

  • @maerunway8694
    @maerunway8694 5 лет назад +8

    Loved this debate, brilliant to watch. All three men made really good points, I thought Sara edged it slightly but not enough for me to believe there is not a God simply because it is faith and I don't have to prove His existence but then again I am Christian not Muslim so yeah

    • @dopadaspada
      @dopadaspada Год назад +1

      And he said that the believing of god is subjective, and he is right , objectively, it's impossible to prove the existence of something, outside of this universe 😉

  • @funnypeople9862
    @funnypeople9862 5 лет назад +18

    Sara don't let people touch you

    • @JassimBjj
      @JassimBjj 4 года назад +1

      Ahhh did he get hurt, you're sensitive mate.

    • @chazwaiariki1777
      @chazwaiariki1777 4 года назад +1

      And sara still doesn't have the meaning of subjective or objective, trying to talk like hamza. Sorry sara your still got away to go to get to hamaz platform

  • @looneytoondaz6105
    @looneytoondaz6105 6 лет назад +15

    love how you come up with facts and all he does is smile and put his hand on you lol so nobody around hears the truth

  • @sarumoh
    @sarumoh 7 лет назад +24

    SARS is extremely intelligent. Hilarious too. Geez!!!! Love the guy.

    • @MThre3
      @MThre3 2 года назад +3

      WHAT!!!!!!!! wahahahah. he doesnt know the difference between inductive and deductive logic. extremely intelligent? ROFL!

  • @SaRaGarvey2012
    @SaRaGarvey2012 4 года назад +16

    A CLASSIC!
    Everyone knows I made Hijab & Ali Dawah look like fools 😂

    • @Thevenommc
      @Thevenommc 4 года назад +5

      Cnt lie bro u did, das why they dnt like debating u

    • @turbochimps
      @turbochimps 4 года назад +2

      Mohammed couldn't handle it, so resorted to little power trip moves like holding your shoulder and calling you "my boy", in an attempt to exert some kind of control over you

    • @sonnysingh209
      @sonnysingh209 4 года назад +2

      Sa ra vs the chuckle brothers.. 😂 they need their heads banging together!
      Hijab resorts to throwing punches and slaps when he loses an argument.
      Sa ra has these two in knots !

    • @moxcmilk7091
      @moxcmilk7091 4 года назад

      Dear Allah sara I'll make prayer for u

    • @FromGuiriga
      @FromGuiriga 2 года назад +2

      Indeed.

  • @thirteendigital341
    @thirteendigital341 Год назад +3

    The concept of God is highly subjective and can vary greatly among different individuals and cultures. Some people believe in a personal God who is all-knowing, all-powerful, and who has a personal relationship with each of their believers. Others believe in a more abstract or impersonal concept of God. Ultimately, whether God is subjective or objective depends on one's individual beliefs and perspective.

  • @iamavib336
    @iamavib336 6 лет назад +5

    Classic example of when an arguement dies a thousand deaths!

  • @carllunnon7416
    @carllunnon7416 6 лет назад +33

    Guy in green jacket .... “we don’t have to use our logic” enuf said

    • @AN-it8dp
      @AN-it8dp 5 лет назад +18

      Carl Lunnon Because he’s sticking to logic idiot, sara is appealing to an infinite regress. Green jacket guy is ending it at the beginning. Not hard unless you have no understanding of rationality or logic

    • @jadoibra6646
      @jadoibra6646 4 года назад +1

      Carl Lunnon you’re brain dead

    • @williamwallace3994
      @williamwallace3994 4 года назад +1

      @Sophie Khan you call Sara racist by making a clearly racist remark towards him, you're disgusting

    • @princeroncham5412
      @princeroncham5412 4 года назад

      @@williamwallace3994 exactly am a Muslim but the racism from some of the Asian brothers against non Asian Muslims is not Islamic at all

  • @jaxruche5625
    @jaxruche5625 11 месяцев назад +6

    Sa Ra destroyed them

  • @SuperFatyank
    @SuperFatyank 5 лет назад +13

    The touching can be used to say I can invade your space and what you gonna do

    • @robertdore9592
      @robertdore9592 4 года назад

      That brother should have told him to keep his hands to himself, and go and have a shave.

  • @jordyw9615
    @jordyw9615 7 лет назад +29

    The idea that you are your ancestors is not entirely false. The concept doesn't seem hard to understand.
    You are your ancestors because you are a product of them which shows they must exist, they can't be someone's belief.

    • @scoobydo4528
      @scoobydo4528 6 лет назад

      Jordan white its not entirely correct either, otherwise we wd hv 1 mind, & if u look at parent-child conflict, this show's that we r dffrnt to our ancestors

    • @DaygoG
      @DaygoG 6 лет назад +3

      We are of them, a product of them, but not them. That's it leave it there. It makes sense and doesn't argue or agree with either side.

    • @levi-i7430
      @levi-i7430 6 лет назад +1

      Daygo G But has saying has connected one way or another it's true. You're spiritual connected with your family so what's the difference a few century agos

    • @DaygoG
      @DaygoG 6 лет назад +1

      9 000 well duh

    • @levi-i7430
      @levi-i7430 6 лет назад

      Daygo G I was just adding on what you where saying

  • @JonathanGardnerPotsMinistries
    @JonathanGardnerPotsMinistries 6 лет назад +14

    This video has solidified why I am a Christian!

    • @watchthis7529
      @watchthis7529 2 года назад +1

      Yh like that shit makes more sense it’s even more stupid!

    • @xKamiiii
      @xKamiiii 2 года назад +8

      my condolences

    • @JonathanGardnerPotsMinistries
      @JonathanGardnerPotsMinistries 2 года назад +1

      @@xKamiiii thanks because I’m reborn after death as Jesus said you must be born again. My condolences that you’re living dead

    • @chimpe1727
      @chimpe1727 Год назад +5

      Then you def werent paying attention to the video

    • @raymondjefferson2514
      @raymondjefferson2514 Год назад

      Still lost, when the Clear Quran is here.

  • @quicksmoke2029
    @quicksmoke2029 2 года назад

    This exchange was amazing.

  • @maerunway8694
    @maerunway8694 4 года назад +14

    Ali argument technique is to distract you by making you define words instead of actually challenging the points.

    • @neteramenhotep6224
      @neteramenhotep6224 6 месяцев назад

      Exactly this is not an open minded way of debate. Un intellectual sorry. Be open when you debate

    • @CruiserzProductions
      @CruiserzProductions 2 месяца назад

      200 IQ Comment

  • @zedders1
    @zedders1 7 лет назад +27

    1-0 to sara for critical thinking and intelligence. sick of people goin around driving fear into folks to join their religion. it's a war on the human mind. PEACE sara. u went in. we need to fight to keep our minds. "the greatest weopon in the hands of the oppressor is the minds of the oppressed" words of Steve beko

  • @sweetprincess2990
    @sweetprincess2990 7 лет назад +9

    May Allah grant Sa Ra the opportunity to convert to Islam.

  • @bilalkhares9337
    @bilalkhares9337 2 года назад

    One thing that is important to remember is that time is a dimension of the universe

  • @contymokala5213
    @contymokala5213 3 года назад +21

    Sa Ra's closing statement 'iam your father"😂😂😂.. Legendary 🤞🏾

  • @shaajaa5873
    @shaajaa5873 7 лет назад +13

    when someone debates Sa Ra in the future, can they please focus on HIS beliefs because i have noticed when he gets asked about his beliefs he smoothly wriggles out of it and ends up talking about the muslim beliefs. His beliefs are ridiculous no wonder he doesnt want to talk about them. Br. Hamza did exactly that and managed to make sa ra look really stupid

    • @Reason_over_Dogma
      @Reason_over_Dogma 7 лет назад +6

      why does it matter? he's not on Hyde's park prosletyzing his beliefs. there's no dawah or evangelism for his subjective beliefs

    • @the_2kbeast178
      @the_2kbeast178 7 лет назад +2

      Reason over Dogma why does it matter ? It matters a lot because the question was about his belief and his ancestors not on Islam but he changed it to Islam more than his ancestors. You know why? Because he doesn't make sense and has a lack of solid proof

    • @cagethem9
      @cagethem9 7 лет назад +2

      the point is its subjective he's already said his beliefs are personal. he doesn't make the claim that they are "true" to others nor does he care. the islamic stance is very different therefore requires them to prove their outlandish claims. thats the whole point of this debate.

  • @saracenoperationtawheed-mo3074
    @saracenoperationtawheed-mo3074 7 лет назад +125

    Ali My brother really needs to stop interrupting, learn the ettiquettes of "dawah" .

    • @RezaSyedIslam
      @RezaSyedIslam 7 лет назад +17

      Agree. He made the discussion difficult to follow through...

    • @FL-bh4pn
      @FL-bh4pn 7 лет назад +7

      salaam brother and sisters at least brother Ali is trying to do dawah unlike a lot of us just not doing our duty "dawah"

    • @preciousadamant5588
      @preciousadamant5588 7 лет назад +5

      Put yourself in that situation. If you were speaking with someone like Sara you would do the same thing. You have to be passive agressive in order to speak your mind or bring out your arguments

    • @FL-bh4pn
      @FL-bh4pn 7 лет назад +5

      we are followers of the best man to walk the earth (prophet Mohammed saw) he wasn't aggressive so the Muslim brothers who are doing dawah for the sake of Allah deserve credit.May Allah the only GOD keep us guided ameen

    • @lovingme178
      @lovingme178 7 лет назад +3

      Saracen / Operation Tawheed - Monotheism and you my brother need to stop judging if u think u can do better stand up and show us wht u can..

  • @lenovotab1963
    @lenovotab1963 5 лет назад +1

    can someone tell them the diference between creation and construction/fabrication/assembling....

  • @chrish2629
    @chrish2629 5 лет назад +24

    No one listens to Ali as Ali says “ok listen.”

  • @sunnyraytemplar8984
    @sunnyraytemplar8984 7 лет назад +6

    Ali Dawar Biting His Nails at (48.30) hahahahhahahahha

  • @msinco571
    @msinco571 6 лет назад +13

    Sa ra your a legend

    • @Shahzeb1988
      @Shahzeb1988 5 месяцев назад

      Ok…. Opinions are like assholes, everyones got one. Guy was literally arguing for arguments sake. Bumping his head on a brick wall. Going no where.

    • @msinco571
      @msinco571 5 месяцев назад

      @@Shahzeb1988these two were not on sa ra level he was the only adult in the debate the two Muslims look like clowns 🤡 and acted so immature!!!!!!

    • @cuttru8041
      @cuttru8041 2 месяца назад

      He doesn't actually engage with Hijab's arguments.

  • @mattjagger8091
    @mattjagger8091 5 лет назад +13

    You did a good job there Sa Ra. And that's the calmest I've seen Ali too. Good debate. I think its just fear. Life for people without religion or the chance it may go away is pure fear. If I don't stay a Catholic....I'm still a man. White. A builder. A husband. A farther. I have so many causes and rights to stand up for defend and a life to lead that's just and happy. Catholicism is a small part of who I am and my role in the short time I'm here is far more than preparing for when I'm not!!! Ultimately we all need to transcend the melevolance that is life and make our mark.....a good memory of yourself held by others after your gone is a start.

    • @bilalkhares9337
      @bilalkhares9337 2 года назад +2

      It was reasonably polite but Sa Ra was making logical errors left right and centre

    • @sedickrossie1353
      @sedickrossie1353 Год назад +2

      This Sara doesn't make sense at all....

  • @romadiabrha253
    @romadiabrha253 2 года назад +5

    Sara huge respect ✊

  • @theTRUTH9381
    @theTRUTH9381 6 лет назад +39

    I'm a Muslim, and I have to give Sa Ra props here. I understand and respect his arguments and the way he handled these two. Mohammad Hijab was rude at times, showing signs of frustration that Sa Ra had him stumped. And Hijab uses his common tactic of using big words to divert away from the point. Not a sincere debator at all.

    • @raymondjefferson2514
      @raymondjefferson2514 Год назад +1

      Who created his ancestors, and in the Quran, it says don't follow your ancestors.

    • @raymondjefferson2514
      @raymondjefferson2514 Год назад

      Hijab should of took him on himself. (SaRa smile).

    • @funkmaster322
      @funkmaster322 11 месяцев назад +6

      For sure. Admirable arguments and exemplary behavior from him. As a Muslim I find Hijab and his minion there truly detestable. Sa Ra was right when he said they do a disservice to their faith.

    • @denizislek5304
      @denizislek5304 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@funkmaster322speaking to ancestors is more like communicating with demons sa ra sounds insane

    • @funkmaster322
      @funkmaster322 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@denizislek5304 It sounds like that TO YOU. People have different beliefs and no one has access to the absolute truth.

  • @jasonjusland5744
    @jasonjusland5744 7 лет назад +13

    Objective or subjective 😂😂😂😂😂😂 u got dem on dat1💯

  • @36firerahul
    @36firerahul Год назад +1

    This was so fun to watch haha

  • @designcore9184
    @designcore9184 5 лет назад +2

    a fair effort by sara to show the hypocrisy in religious pretenders.

  • @upfrntupfrnt5723
    @upfrntupfrnt5723 6 лет назад +12

    hes basically replacing God with energy and where he gets his tools from to create the Universe, a Divine Entities intentions is something a human mind can't comprehend, Islam even teaches that 'Allah knows what we don't'.

    • @aesthetic15912
      @aesthetic15912 5 лет назад +4

      Allah knows that sperm comes from somewhere in between backbone and ribs and we know now that Allah was wrong

    • @mohamedyusuf5141
      @mohamedyusuf5141 4 года назад +2

      @@aesthetic15912 You're an ex-Muslim?

    • @Haze94LDN
      @Haze94LDN 4 года назад +3

      @@mohamedyusuf5141 why you asking him that for, do you want to kill him for leaving?

    • @mohamedyusuf5141
      @mohamedyusuf5141 4 года назад +3

      @@Haze94LDN Nope. Are you EDL?? I just thought it curious that he commented that with his name.

    • @jayp9059
      @jayp9059 4 года назад

      What is your relationship to God, his son? Servant? Toy? Test? All of the above?

  • @MrDdocs
    @MrDdocs 7 лет назад +5

    13:00 "we don't need to use our logic". Says it all

  • @abdelkaderbelkouri5065
    @abdelkaderbelkouri5065 4 года назад

    السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته جزاكم الله خيرا انا لا اعرف الانجليزية اريد الترجمة باللغة العربية من فضلكم

  • @muhammadbootanazirahmed9510
    @muhammadbootanazirahmed9510 5 лет назад

    Subhana Allah connect me love you much mother father Salaam alaikum

  • @mr-zw2xl
    @mr-zw2xl 7 лет назад +7

    These brothers gave irrational answers every time to the African brother.

  • @FoxTamerMGO1995
    @FoxTamerMGO1995 7 лет назад +21

    the last point Br Mohammed made is the final nail in the coffin for Sa Ra, his wife's call saved him.

    • @divinity176
      @divinity176 3 года назад +2

      Not really - he just claimed that KCA deductively proves his position, which is false. KCA is layer upon layer of assumption, a bullshit lasagna. The real difference here is that Sa Ra realises his position is a matter of faith and the other two are deluded enough to think theirs is a matter of fact. Oh - and Sa Ra understands where the burden of evidence lies in a debate, the other two don't.

  • @jacquelinewotherspoon9754
    @jacquelinewotherspoon9754 5 лет назад +39

    The touching is an intimidating thing. He is Trying to enforce his opinion on sa ra. Not gonna work.

    • @margaretwaite5170
      @margaretwaite5170 5 лет назад +2

      Plus hijab quite likes a bit of the old touchy feely. He's thinking , win win.

    • @sultans1377
      @sultans1377 4 года назад +2

      Sometimes a person unconsciously touches the other, and this often occurs from white-hearted people. But Sa ra reaction is exaggerated and pity

  • @alexchohan4334
    @alexchohan4334 4 года назад +1

    Energy can neither be created or destroyed

  • @MrDdocs
    @MrDdocs 7 лет назад +16

    First they said Sara is going to become aggressive .. He didn't.. He then kept touching him and asking him his name to bring on agitation.. Guys a prick

    • @01YA36
      @01YA36 3 года назад

      Yea he shouldn't have touched him but for some that is a method of reconciliation. But Sara is a bit crazy for believing he can talk to the dead...

    • @denatora7142
      @denatora7142 2 года назад +1

      @@01YA36 Every religious ppl are crazy. His crazy isnt bigger than a muslim or Christian crazy.

  • @stilnessspeaks8104
    @stilnessspeaks8104 7 лет назад +4

    I forwarded the bits so it was only br. Mohammed debating. Next time I hope its a two way discussion.

  • @Spoonersoutings
    @Spoonersoutings 5 лет назад +3

    For some one to believe in what ever they think to be true is there given right to do so. But making another to believe in the same acceptance is unethical

  • @user-tj3vj7lp5h
    @user-tj3vj7lp5h 3 года назад +2

    21:09 Time concept is only applied within the cosmos, if we they already established that the creator is outside the cosmos (which they did) then sara shouldn’t have said god took time to make his decision, he is all knowing and he is eternal, so that implies that he knows that he will creat the universe eternally.

  • @tobiaskirstan4778
    @tobiaskirstan4778 6 лет назад +5

    Omg he killed the discusion with the quote, believe is someting you dont know is true, do you believe that you standing here or do you know.

  • @jawwadansari6980
    @jawwadansari6980 7 лет назад +13

    ali dawah you are impatient at times. may Allah grant us patience and guide us to the straight path leading to Jannah ( Al-firdaus )

  • @kennyo1344
    @kennyo1344 3 года назад +1

    These two muslim brothers got absolutely SPUN.

  • @anthonyaguero2261
    @anthonyaguero2261 3 года назад +10

    “Your krazy is not superior to my Krazy though“ 😆😂🤣😂🤣 I’m dying.. Sa Ra is 🔥🔥🔥.. No one is even listening to Ali as he continues to say listen to me okay 😂🤣😂🤣..

  • @ExCoSeH
    @ExCoSeH 6 лет назад +7

    Never laughed so much in my life

  • @timothyjp89
    @timothyjp89 7 лет назад +4

    great debate, however I think that having two speakers against one speaker hindered the discussion

  • @clarkporter1340
    @clarkporter1340 Год назад +2

    Everyone is a proof of their ancestors

  • @cassidycarpede8689
    @cassidycarpede8689 2 года назад +3

    9 minutes in and Sara is explaining the trinity

  • @MrSkee80
    @MrSkee80 7 лет назад +98

    This man talks to jinn that he thinks is his ancestors. He admitted to practicing voodoo and he's a kemet. He is into ancient Egypt and beliefs in the hidden knowledge which is basically sorcery and summoning jinn. He's being fooled and hope he finds guidance insallah!

    • @writtenpath5589
      @writtenpath5589 7 лет назад +9

      Well that pretty much explains everything, and he also talks about energy and Jinn are made from 'energy' so go figure

    • @daddycool7543
      @daddycool7543 7 лет назад +14

      Yep i concur, the only way to help Sa Ra is to do an Islamic exorcism. Next time hes in the park get a Qari to start reading Ruqyah on loud speraker. LOL

    • @africansilverback2722
      @africansilverback2722 7 лет назад +5

      sa ra needs to learn about jinn's theres plenty of videos about it on youtube. dont go straight in to prove it wheres thre evidence etc just for once follow through with it and play safe if you later on in life or the next life come to learn that it was true they you can atleast say i tried to protect myself . you should live your life like that its wise to be safe if 10 people say dont go down that road because you will get shoot but yet i 10 peeps cant prove it,it would be wise to play safe and avoid it

    • @SaRaGarvey2012
      @SaRaGarvey2012 7 лет назад +10

      Jinn is another SUBJECTIVE CONCEPT!
      Why are religious people so DENSE?

    • @dontlie4777
      @dontlie4777 7 лет назад +10

      Sarah Allow it lol u still going on but had to run before Mohammed shamed u and u was lucky that Ali was coming in and out the convo I know u will be avoiding them from now lol lol lol u looked so bad then started cursing I thought you want to benefit the community I know your people and proved them wrong too lol u all a like wannabes sad people

  • @LL-dr4xo
    @LL-dr4xo 7 лет назад +204

    this clown said I believe in myself...

    • @isha6804
      @isha6804 7 лет назад +4

      Did you know that the bible the Tankh (The OT) and the NT teaches that you must love yourself first.......before you can love another person?
      Go figure....

    • @dontlie4777
      @dontlie4777 7 лет назад

      lol lol lol

    • @danh4435
      @danh4435 7 лет назад +1

      Pray for him!!!!!!!!!!!! don't call names only

    • @jaopoku
      @jaopoku 7 лет назад +12

      +Deceived muslims always have to tag team..suckers. this black guy holds his own.

    • @dontlie4777
      @dontlie4777 7 лет назад

      u are dumb like him not tag team it's clear man talking faarrraaaaffff but think his talking sense he use words that he don't even know but still think his smart road rat is a road rat end off

  • @seasun5083
    @seasun5083 5 лет назад +4

    Use Belief when Logic fails: that's the conclusion of this debate

    • @swampy1234
      @swampy1234 Год назад

      Logic will never lead to existential truth. Other than belief, what will you use?

  • @devanshshukla8857
    @devanshshukla8857 Год назад +3

    Im your FADA 😂😂😂