The guy with black hood said he studied Arabic 2 hours a day 7 days a week for 10 years and he came to conclusion' Muslim is someone who doesn't change their name' and shahada is the only criteria for being Muslim is enough without following the other tenets of Islam!!!!...SMH😒
“Whoever kills a person [unjustly]…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.” (Qur’an, 5:32)
+Abbas A. "And kill them wherever you find them" (Quran 2:191) "Fight against those who do not obey Allah" (Quran 9:29) "When the sacred months have passed, then kill the Mushrikin wherever you find them."(Quran 9:5) "When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks." (Quran 47:4)
expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- îaram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers. (Quran 2:191) god doesn't speak about killing but economic pressure" (Quran 9:29) When the sacred months have passed,again economic pressure not killing (Quran 2:191)
+TryTo Understand because is a crystal clear statement that “Whoever kills a person [unjustly]…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.”
the prophet ( pbuh ) said: الْمُسْلِمُ مَنْ سَلِمَ النَّاسُ مِنْ لِسَانِهِ وَيَدِهِ وَالْمُؤْمِنُ مَنْ أَمِنَهُ النَّاسُ عَلَى دِمَائِهِمْ وَأَمْوَالِهِمْ The Muslim is the one from whose tongue and hand the people are safe, and the believer is the one who is trusted with the lives and wealth of the people. Source: Sunan al-Nasā’ī 4998, Grade: Sahih
shaolinskunks88 Yes I can prove that Sara can't talk to dead people because he's a human just like me and last time I went to a funeral and asked a question to the dead person laying in the coffin , he never replied to me . So yes you can talk to the dead all you want , but when you get a reply let me know lol
what is the point of SaRa being there. Seems like he just wants to create conflict Its not as though he is going to leave his Kemet faith and embrace Islam
When it supports his point, SaRa is an expert in what Isis members believe e.g. when the brother said a Muslim has to follow the 5 pillars of Islam, SaRa was quick to say "yes, yes they do all that". However when the other brother asked him "what verse from the Qur'an do they use to justify their behaviour?" Suddenly SaRa is no longer an expert in the field and says "I dont study Isis video's"?!?! Oh so you know what they believe in their hearts [shahada] and do in their day to day life [prayer, fasting etc] but you have no idea what verses they publically quote in their videos to support their actions?? He's starting to irritate me now with his pseudo intellectualism!
M. P. he doesn't have to know. it's not his doctrine to know. it's isis and ISIS used the Quran to justify their actions. that's not disputed. no one here does any tasfirs for ISIS. now, sensible Muslims disagree and think ISIS perverts the quranic scripture and I'd agree with them but I can't go as far to say they're not Muslim. if they identify as Muslim, they're Muslim. to argue otherwise, it's a no true scotsman
the Muslim brother that talks about killing is right. it is it if context, that particular verse. I'm not Muslim but it seems like the context is in the context of war. but what is a Muslim is to that person. the guy is trying to argue no true scotsman
Haroon nisar I actually wasn't talking about the video. I was refering to the comments he would be flooding this video with. I agree we should not make takfir lighly. however we are aware of the punishment of killing one innocent person. Thank you for commenting brother
This is My Name yes but what are the criteria , when does a Muslim no longer b a Muslim due to his or her actions thats the real question being asked here. what does the sharia say ?
Thanks for Sarwar for posting this but Sa Ra and Gary and this other guy don't wanna understand what the Quran says and don't believe what the brother is saying. kinda pointless to talk to people like this.
Mega TrueTalk Really... are u being serious read all of surah 9 and hopefully u will understand quran.com/9 Or menace u want to stay in a fearful ignorant state it's up to u
Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just. sura 60,verse 8
you can call yourself Muslim... But if you know Allah exists.. and you don't obey his commands.. then you know you are in trouble.. unesacapable punishment... So. . Those isis guys.. If they are Muslim. . And not obeying gods commands.. They are in trouble.. so as a non Muslim. . I don't understand how you don't understand this simple concept.. If you want to understand the quran.. Learn the prophets interpretation. .. Go to people of knowledge.. don't ask me but everybody has a different interpretation... Go research and see how many scholars agree with each other.. and then you see does it make sense.. its all about using your flipping brain.
In the end the guy says there is a verse that says don't kill innocent souls. does that then mean kill everybody else? how would u know who is innocent or not? & Why couldn't that guy produce the verse where it actually says that?
@@Reason_over_Dogma Every son of Adam is a sinner. The best of sinners are those who repent to ALLAH,for verily HE is the THE MOST MERCIFUL,THE FORGIVING ONE.
@Twenty Faces Being a Muslim is to submit to ALLAH alone,to believe in him without giving him partners,to follow his last Messenger (Peace be upon him),and to do good deeds. You're not a Muslim because you give partner to the God of Jesus(Peace be upon him). So even if you do good deeds,your good deeds won't be accepted because you've gone astray of the teachings of Jesus (Peace be upon him)who said that the only true God is the Father (John 17:3),yet you consider him as God. So these are the questions!
@@Reason_over_Dogma Everyone is sinner, everyone. But for the prophets,we do not say sin but mistake. For the prophets,those are not volunteer sins but mistakes because they were the best of people and whenever they made mistakes,errors,they used to repent quickly back et ask forgiveness even if they didn't do nothing. Another question?
Their Question was WHO IS MUSLIM? In order to understand the answer to this question we need to understand the word MUSLIM first. SO what is MUSLIM? word MUSLIM derived from the word Islam which means "submit your will to Allah Almighty" the word Muslim then means "A person who submits his will to Allah Almighty" so back to the main Question, WHO IS MUSLIM? Ans: Muslim is one who submits his will to Allah Almighty.
''Muslim is a person those who believe in the One God with no partner. '' But in this world theire are good muslim and bad muslim . As like as good person and bad person. Thats your answer Sara.
i wanna ask all cristian here can tell me who is john paul luke matthew mark????why is their gospel are truth???do they have the chain of narration that all they said in the bible to make them telling the truth????where all this gospel teller come from bcoz bible are invented after 200 year after jesus a.s died can any cristian tell me????
so if you say the shahada then worship shiva does that still make you a muslim? these atheists have strange logic. and I disagree with the muslim man that a person may understand islam and still deny it as people do with other truths that they reject for whatever fake reason they come with
the nail is good and bad is different depending the point of the viewer, what is bad other would say is good who are you to decide your point is thruth when the other viewer say the same the thing
When the perfect clear book comes into the world confusion ensues. I mean look at it, the Muslim contradicts himself, then the other Muslims contradict each other. Yep clear and perfect word of God.
1987 don't bother, the logic is flawed on so many levels that it is not worth commenting to the guy. By his reasoning the British empire that grew through crushing other civilisations was good, because it was the fastest growing empire.
• ISIS are doing "ISTIHLAL". That means something ALLAH swt said it is Haram and they make it Halal. (Killing innocent people). And that take you out of ISLAM. Example: If a person says ZINA (Fornication) is Halal then he is OUT OF ISLAM. • Finally i share with a beautiful verse of the Qur'an and i hope the brothers use it next time when they discuss Terrorism: QURAN 5:8 - " O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm for Allah , witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness. And fear Allah ; indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what you do. "
it is a difference between people who fight in syria and people who fight in iraq .the one who fight in syria are created from outside . in iraq are people who were supported saddam
First of all saying that Isis is Muslim is the same as saying Hitler is Christian. Second being sincere in your belief and actions worshipping God Alone that's what makes you a Muslim. The testimony of Faith la illah illa Allah Muhammad rasul Allah enters you into the fold of Islam. You cannot kill innocent people and or commit suicide and be Muslim.
What a futile debate. If a Muslim is one who submits then isn't it obvious the One they submit to decides who is or isn't a Muslim and wether the quality and quantity of submission was enough to lighten the weight of the soul? That's an ultimate scenario. The required authority can t be present in person because God can't be a man. Gary and Sara troublemaking by asking a stupidly yet demonic and cunningly loaded question, 'who decides?', encouraging the brothers to argue and determine man is decisive in that regard. God isn't a who. Everyone lay in their own grave come the time. Common sense though dictates the higher the transgression the more dangerous a path someone is treading. Murdering innocents isn't the same as dropping litter. These Muslims dancing to the tune of Sara and Gary and falling for that canard. No one can decide who is or isn't until the day of reckoning regardless of sins committed or rewards earned. Humans can only strive. However certain observed acts can only be deemed to be un-Islamic by an objective viewer. Everyone has a right to a viewpoint based on their own moral compass. Furthermore it's highly beneficial if that gauge is based on scripture and edicts from authority ie. the Prophet (PBUH). Simple. Stop those devilish divide and conquer tactics of your former and current masters Sara. Not a good look imitating your massa. Peace.
These no believer of Islam have been given the message. They should be left to their beliefs now. Their hearts are sealed and they outright reject the message. Now it's between them and our creator.. Khalsa! Waste no more time with these people
so if you say the shahada then worship shiva does that still make you a muslim? these atheists have strange logic. and I disagree with the muslim man that a person may understand islam and still deny it as people do with other truths that they reject for whatever reason
Garys point at 8:00 cracked it.yes the isis people read the koran their leader has a PhD in islamic studies they model themselves on the life of muhammed.they all have taken the shahada.
Who says the guy in the hoodie is a ex Muslim.. He doesn't know the basics of Islam I would say he is a Christian from Pakistan I know his name is ansar or something like that.. He claims to be a atheist but it's obvious he a Christian... He learnt Arabic for 10 years yet doesn't have a clue what he learnt... Ironic isn't it.. I'm Pakistani and I learnt quran for 4 years and I knew what I was reading in English urdu and Arabic as I took Arabic lessons... I still know much of what I know in English and urdu translations il admit that my Arabic isn't as strong as some Muslims but I know what I say and it's meaning alhmdulillah. Sa Ra is a joke and Gary Google.. Well.. Name says it all
Question to you Muslims. Do you think your ancestors in heaven are dead? and do you even know the meaning of the word ancestor?...you people keep riding that we worship our ancestors argument and sa ra has already explained he doesn't so stop projecting and come up with real evidence of your beliefs.
2 : 8 - 14. 8 : And of the people are some who say, "We believe in Allah and the Last Day," but they are not believers. 9 : They [think to] deceive Allah and those who believe, but they deceive not except themselves and perceive [it] not. 10 : In their hearts is disease, so Allah has increased their disease; and for them is a painful punishment because they [habitually] used to lie. **11 : And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," they say, "WE ARE BUT REFORMERS."** **12 : Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive [it] not.** **13 : And when it is said to them, "Believe as the people have believed," they say, "Should we believe as the foolish have believed?" Unquestionably, it is they who are the foolish, but they know [it] not.** **14 : And when they meet those who believe, they say, "We believe"; but when they are alone with their evil ones, they say, "Indeed, we are with you; we were only mockers."** 5 : 32. Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors. 5 :33. Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the HEREAFTER is a great punishment, 5 : 34. Except for those who return [repenting] before you apprehend them. And know that Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. Wallahu'alam bissawab.
Simply God is decided who’s a Muslim! Not me or you. We as Muslims believe that the Quran is our guide so for sure as a Muslim I should follow the Quran. So what the Quran said about those people- ISIS? (That was why We wrote for the Children of Israel that who ever killed a soul, except for a soul slain, or for sedition in the earth, it should be considered as though he had killed all mankind; and that who ever saved it should be regarded as though he had saved all mankind. Our Messengers brought them proofs; then many of them thereafter commit excesses in the earth. (32)). Islam is not responsible for some twisted minds which pretend that they’re Muslims. Islam is not responsible about their misunderstanding which’s based on ignorance. Quran is clear and the verses about the peace are exist and also the verses about self defense are also exist which show how it’s a complete life guide. It’s not our fault that you don’t wanna tired yourselves and understand it guys. Also another point about ISIS it’s really an old argument against Islam so whoever discuss about isis either don’t have enough of knowledge or he just wants to talk just to talk! All of the world know that they started by killing muslims! They even detonated a bomb in the holy musque in Madinah! So please guys make a new Strong point to yourself instead of talking about ISIS.
islam teaching is nor like that brother, please learnt as much as possible before debating brother...the can beat you soo bad with hatred and y can unswer
Please!!! Brothers, stop debating/ arguing with Sa Ra. You have nothing to prove to him. His viewpoint is very irrelevant!! He is calling muslims paranoid as per his latest video on his channel!
Well again that is your opinion that his view point is very irrelevant. Irrelevant to you perhaps but he is relevant to others. He must be relevant otherwise why the obsession with him?
Sara. This is a nonsensical argument with someone who's not Muslim and doesn't even believe in God. He believes he talks to his ancestors. we don't need to convince you of anything. We don't need you to believe anything. We don't need you to be a Muslim. You need to be a Muslim for your own benefit. All you're doing in this video right now it's just making noise.
All this talk about ancestors and how crazy it is to be talking to the dead lol. ok, let's break it down real quick it's not crazy to be talking to a mystical being? it's not crazy that Mohammed flew to the moon on a horse?. right so there's different criteria of crazy now yh? LOL
How are you so able to use God and logical in the same sentence?.. this is the problem with humans they try to put ''OUR''' God into a box setting He/She/It's Criteria to say what He/She/It can down it doesn't work like that ''WE'' Don't' understand God but we know that theirs presence of God. that's the difference in which Humans need to understand
Lol, why picking on this muslim Guy with a hoodie, he clearly doesnt know what he talks about. I've had enough 2:10 in the video. Most isis members are muslims, YES. A muslim is somebody WHO believes in the 5 pilars of islam and the 6 pilars of imam, born muslim or converted by taking the shahada. (Tho everything isis does doesnt represent islam) I wanna Save My braincells, this is terrorizing me, wish I was there to help the poor Guy out...
Lol anyone kills an innocent soul, then we have the verse sayinG If you do not FIGHT FOR ALLAH you are hypocrites of the Muslim faith. SO WHICH IS IT ?
Sa Ra is actually right, who decides who is Muslim its all subjective but at end of say who finalizes it.
Really enjoyed this vid,,, short an sweet! Big up Gary & SaRa! Always ask the intelligent questions.
Learn about Islaam my brothers because walahi it seems like most muslims nowadays don't even know the basics.
your nick name is really really islamic lol
The lady thought she knew something but she learned something new in a few seconds and ran he he
The guy with black hood said he studied Arabic 2 hours a day 7 days a week for 10 years and he came to conclusion' Muslim is someone who doesn't change their name' and shahada is the only criteria for being Muslim is enough without following the other tenets of Islam!!!!...SMH😒
“Whoever kills a person [unjustly]…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.” (Qur’an, 5:32)
+Abbas A.
"And kill them wherever you find them" (Quran 2:191)
"Fight against those who do not obey Allah" (Quran 9:29)
"When the sacred months have passed, then kill the Mushrikin wherever you find them."(Quran 9:5)
"When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks." (Quran 47:4)
expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- îaram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers. (Quran 2:191)
god doesn't speak about killing but economic pressure" (Quran 9:29)
When the sacred months have passed,again economic pressure not killing (Quran 2:191)
+TryTo Understand where is the context ?
+Mehdi El
Why didn'y you asked Abbas A. for the context? Double standards?
+TryTo Understand because is a crystal clear statement that “Whoever kills a person [unjustly]…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.”
the prophet ( pbuh ) said:
الْمُسْلِمُ مَنْ سَلِمَ النَّاسُ مِنْ لِسَانِهِ وَيَدِهِ وَالْمُؤْمِنُ مَنْ أَمِنَهُ النَّاسُ عَلَى دِمَائِهِمْ وَأَمْوَالِهِمْ
The Muslim is the one from whose tongue and hand the people are safe, and the believer is the one who is trusted with the lives and wealth of the people.
Source: Sunan al-Nasā’ī 4998, Grade: Sahih
god bless that women in the green! someone who's actually educated
Sara be like " I dont believe a word you say " at 2:47 but he believes he talks to his dead ancestors , ain't that some shit
Christians also do the same thing.
But you can't prove Sara doesn't speak to his ancestors. You know a large percent think Islam is bullshit but it means different to you. Hypocrite.
ok so a man dies if someone is talking to the dead body is that talking to dead people? cheers
shaolinskunks88 Yes I can prove that Sara can't talk to dead people because he's a human just like me and last time I went to a funeral and asked a question to the dead person laying in the coffin , he never replied to me . So yes you can talk to the dead all you want , but when you get a reply let me know lol
@@tafarii5428 yes because dead peoples spirit is still alive.. in that case dead isn't the end of people their spirit lives 💯 👌 😌
what is the point of SaRa being there. Seems like he just wants to create conflict Its not as though he is going to leave his Kemet faith and embrace Islam
Ansar and SaRa...what a team.
When it supports his point, SaRa is an expert in what Isis members believe e.g. when the brother said a Muslim has to follow the 5 pillars of Islam, SaRa was quick to say "yes, yes they do all that". However when the other brother asked him "what verse from the Qur'an do they use to justify their behaviour?" Suddenly SaRa is no longer an expert in the field and says "I dont study Isis video's"?!?! Oh so you know what they believe in their hearts [shahada] and do in their day to day life [prayer, fasting etc] but you have no idea what verses they publically quote in their videos to support their actions??
He's starting to irritate me now with his pseudo intellectualism!
M. P. he doesn't have to know. it's not his doctrine to know. it's isis and ISIS used the Quran to justify their actions. that's not disputed. no one here does any tasfirs for ISIS.
now, sensible Muslims disagree and think ISIS perverts the quranic scripture and I'd agree with them but I can't go as far to say they're not Muslim. if they identify as Muslim, they're Muslim. to argue otherwise, it's a no true scotsman
the Muslim brother that talks about killing is right. it is it if context, that particular verse. I'm not Muslim but it seems like the context is in the context of war.
but what is a Muslim is to that person. the guy is trying to argue no true scotsman
am just waiting for SA RA to start blabbing.....
Haroon nisar I actually wasn't talking about the video. I was refering to the comments he would be flooding this video with.
I agree we should not make takfir lighly. however we are aware of the punishment of killing one innocent person.
Thank you for commenting brother
This is My Name
yes but what are the criteria , when does a Muslim no longer b a Muslim due to his or her actions thats the real question being asked here. what does the sharia say ?
Just Tease Blah....Blah...Blah!
Thanks for Sarwar for posting this but Sa Ra and Gary and this other guy don't wanna understand what the Quran says and don't believe what the brother is saying. kinda pointless to talk to people like this.
Mega TrueTalk Really... are u being serious read all of surah 9 and hopefully u will understand quran.com/9
Or menace u want to stay in a fearful ignorant state it's up to u
Mega TrueTalk Cool good to hear
What video is it?
Eisa Mahmood what did you understand from this guy nonsense?
tony mason I don't understand who u are referring to
Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.
sura 60,verse 8
you can call yourself Muslim... But if you know Allah exists.. and you don't obey his commands.. then you know you are in trouble.. unesacapable punishment... So. . Those isis guys.. If they are Muslim. . And not obeying gods commands.. They are in trouble.. so as a non Muslim. . I don't understand how you don't understand this simple concept.. If you want to understand the quran.. Learn the prophets interpretation. .. Go to people of knowledge.. don't ask me but everybody has a different interpretation... Go research and see how many scholars agree with each other.. and then you see does it make sense.. its all about using your flipping brain.
Who determines his commands?
@@SacredSocietyAP exactly, they don't know.....its animal kingdom in Islam
In the end
the guy says there is a verse that says don't kill innocent souls.
does that then mean kill everybody else?
how would u know who is innocent or not?
&
Why couldn't that guy produce the verse where it actually says that?
who is a muslim.someone who believe in one god .believe in last day and do good deed
Abbas A. can people who have sinned be Muslim?
@@Reason_over_Dogma Every son of Adam is a sinner.
The best of sinners are those who repent to ALLAH,for verily HE is the THE MOST MERCIFUL,THE FORGIVING ONE.
@Twenty Faces Being a Muslim is to submit to ALLAH alone,to believe in him without giving him partners,to follow his last Messenger (Peace be upon him),and to do good deeds.
You're not a Muslim because you give partner to the God of Jesus(Peace be upon him).
So even if you do good deeds,your good deeds won't be accepted because you've gone astray of the teachings of Jesus (Peace be upon him)who said that the only true God is the Father (John 17:3),yet you consider him as God.
So these are the questions!
@@nafsreviver2003 Mohammad was a sinner then?
@@Reason_over_Dogma Everyone is sinner, everyone.
But for the prophets,we do not say sin but mistake.
For the prophets,those are not volunteer sins but mistakes because they were the best of people and whenever they made mistakes,errors,they used to repent quickly back et ask forgiveness even if they didn't do nothing.
Another question?
Their Question was WHO IS MUSLIM?
In order to understand the answer to this question we need to understand the word MUSLIM first.
SO what is MUSLIM?
word MUSLIM derived from the word Islam which means "submit your will to Allah Almighty"
the word Muslim then means "A person who submits his will to Allah Almighty"
so back to the main Question, WHO IS MUSLIM?
Ans: Muslim is one who submits his will to Allah Almighty.
''Muslim is a person those who believe in the One God with no partner. ''
But in this world theire are good muslim and bad muslim . As like as good person and bad person. Thats your answer Sara.
i wanna ask all cristian here can tell me who is john paul luke matthew mark????why is their gospel are truth???do they have the chain of narration that all they said in the bible to make them telling the truth????where all this gospel teller come from bcoz bible are invented after 200 year after jesus a.s died can any cristian tell me????
so if you say the shahada then worship shiva does that still make you a muslim? these atheists have strange logic.
and I disagree with the muslim man that a person may understand islam and still deny it as people do with other truths that they reject for whatever fake reason they come with
the nail is good and bad is different depending the point of the viewer, what is bad other would say is good who are you to decide your point is thruth when the other viewer say the same the thing
At 8:29 the guy in the light grey hooded top, says he believes in humanity.
He didn't say islam.
When the perfect clear book comes into the world confusion ensues. I mean look at it, the Muslim contradicts himself, then the other Muslims contradict each other. Yep clear and perfect word of God.
No contradictions in the Quran. Which is why it is the fastest growing religion.
1987 don't bother, the logic is flawed on so many levels that it is not worth commenting to the guy. By his reasoning the British empire that grew through crushing other civilisations was good, because it was the fastest growing empire.
edo man No errors and contradictions
• ISIS are doing "ISTIHLAL". That means something ALLAH swt said it is Haram and they make it Halal. (Killing innocent people).
And that take you out of ISLAM. Example: If a person says ZINA (Fornication) is Halal then he is OUT OF ISLAM.
• Finally i share with a beautiful verse of the Qur'an and i hope the brothers use it next time when they discuss Terrorism:
QURAN 5:8 - " O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm for Allah , witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness. And fear Allah ; indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what you do. "
it is a difference between people who fight in syria and people who fight in iraq .the one who fight in syria are created from outside . in iraq are people who were supported saddam
Sara Gary and other bloke logic all added up probably equates to a 10 year old
I guess that is why marrying young women is unwise.
First of all saying that Isis is Muslim is the same as saying Hitler is Christian. Second being sincere in your belief and actions worshipping God Alone that's what makes you a Muslim. The testimony of Faith la illah illa Allah Muhammad rasul Allah enters you into the fold of Islam. You cannot kill innocent people and or commit suicide and be Muslim.
What a futile debate. If a Muslim is one who submits then isn't it obvious the One they submit to decides who is or isn't a Muslim and wether the quality and quantity of submission was enough to lighten the weight of the soul? That's an ultimate scenario. The required authority can t be present in person because God can't be a man. Gary and Sara troublemaking by asking a stupidly yet demonic and cunningly loaded question, 'who decides?', encouraging the brothers to argue and determine man is decisive in that regard. God isn't a who. Everyone lay in their own grave come the time. Common sense though dictates the higher the transgression the more dangerous a path someone is treading. Murdering innocents isn't the same as dropping litter. These Muslims dancing to the tune of Sara and Gary and falling for that canard. No one can decide who is or isn't until the day of reckoning regardless of sins committed or rewards earned. Humans can only strive. However certain observed acts can only be deemed to be un-Islamic by an objective viewer. Everyone has a right to a viewpoint based on their own moral compass. Furthermore it's highly beneficial if that gauge is based on scripture and edicts from authority ie. the Prophet (PBUH). Simple. Stop those devilish divide and conquer tactics of your former and current masters Sara. Not a good look imitating your massa. Peace.
sounds like bunch of kids arguing without any context..
gary should talk to ali's shoes....
never seen or heard a bunch of confused people.. sad thing is they don't know for certain... but then who does.
These no believer of Islam have been given the message. They should be left to their beliefs now. Their hearts are sealed and they outright reject the message. Now it's between them and our creator.. Khalsa! Waste no more time with these people
so if you say the shahada then worship shiva does that still make you a muslim? these atheists have strange logic.
and I disagree with the muslim man that a person may understand islam and still deny it as people do with other truths that they reject for whatever reason
Garys point at 8:00 cracked it.yes the isis people read the koran their leader has a PhD in islamic studies they model themselves on the life of muhammed.they all have taken the shahada.
Who says the guy in the hoodie is a ex Muslim.. He doesn't know the basics of Islam I would say he is a Christian from Pakistan I know his name is ansar or something like that.. He claims to be a atheist but it's obvious he a Christian... He learnt Arabic for 10 years yet doesn't have a clue what he learnt... Ironic isn't it.. I'm Pakistani and I learnt quran for 4 years and I knew what I was reading in English urdu and Arabic as I took Arabic lessons... I still know much of what I know in English and urdu translations il admit that my Arabic isn't as strong as some Muslims but I know what I say and it's meaning alhmdulillah. Sa Ra is a joke and Gary Google.. Well.. Name says it all
Question to you Muslims. Do you think your ancestors in heaven are dead? and do you even know the meaning of the word ancestor?...you people keep riding that we worship our ancestors argument and sa ra has already explained he doesn't so stop projecting and come up with real evidence of your beliefs.
2 : 8 - 14.
8 : And of the people are some who say, "We believe in Allah and the Last Day," but they are not believers.
9 : They [think to] deceive Allah and those who believe, but they deceive not except themselves and perceive [it] not.
10 : In their hearts is disease, so Allah has increased their disease; and for them is a painful punishment because they [habitually] used to lie.
**11 : And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth,"
they say, "WE ARE BUT REFORMERS."**
**12 : Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive [it] not.**
**13 : And when it is said to them, "Believe as the people have believed," they say, "Should we believe as the foolish have believed?" Unquestionably, it is they who are the foolish, but they know [it] not.**
**14 : And when they meet those who believe, they say, "We believe"; but when they are alone with their evil ones, they say, "Indeed, we are with you; we were only mockers."**
5 : 32.
Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.
5 :33.
Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the HEREAFTER is a great punishment,
5 : 34.
Except for those who return [repenting] before you apprehend them. And know that Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
Wallahu'alam bissawab.
Simply God is decided who’s a Muslim! Not me or you. We as Muslims believe that the Quran is our guide so for sure as a Muslim I should follow the Quran. So what the Quran said about those people- ISIS? (That was why We wrote for the Children of Israel that who ever killed a soul, except for a soul slain, or for sedition in the earth, it should be considered as though he had killed all mankind; and that who ever saved it should be regarded as though he had saved all mankind. Our Messengers brought them proofs; then many of them thereafter commit excesses in the earth. (32)). Islam is not responsible for some twisted minds which pretend that they’re Muslims. Islam is not responsible about their misunderstanding which’s based on ignorance. Quran is clear and the verses about the peace are exist and also the verses about self defense are also exist which show how it’s a complete life guide. It’s not our fault that you don’t wanna tired yourselves and understand it guys. Also another point about ISIS it’s really an old argument against Islam so whoever discuss about isis either don’t have enough of knowledge or he just wants to talk just to talk! All of the world know that they started by killing muslims! They even detonated a bomb in the holy musque in Madinah! So please guys make a new Strong point to yourself instead of talking about ISIS.
Brothers & sisters please report sara's Islamophobic video for hate, slander & attempting to incite violence on Muslims.
nice
you shouldn't try hyde park if you are so green
islam teaching is nor like that brother, please learnt as much as possible before debating brother...the can beat you soo bad with hatred and y can unswer
guys
some donations please to buy some common sense for Sa Ra and Gary
Please!!! Brothers, stop debating/ arguing with Sa Ra. You have nothing to prove to him. His viewpoint is very irrelevant!!
He is calling muslims paranoid as per his latest video on his channel!
Well again that is your opinion that his view point is very irrelevant. Irrelevant to you perhaps but he is relevant to others.
He must be relevant otherwise why the obsession with him?
Wiil Waalan
A low level satanist? 😂
Wtf does that even mean...? All these accusations of being paid! I'd love to see this alleged money I'm getting.
guy with the hoodie has the punchable face i've ever seen, glad he got owned
bunch of ignorant ppl debating ignorant ppl just doesn't make sense!
Sara. This is a nonsensical argument with someone who's not Muslim and doesn't even believe in God. He believes he talks to his ancestors. we don't need to convince you of anything. We don't need you to believe anything. We don't need you to be a Muslim. You need to be a Muslim for your own benefit. All you're doing in this video right now it's just making noise.
Many of this fake ex muslim keep on coming to debunk something that they dont even understand. Sa ra and garry much of a joke as they were. Sad bunch
Sa Ra a bomboclat is a bomboclat BUT who decide who is a bomboclat?
Pointless debating sa ra and Gary google
All this talk about ancestors and how crazy it is to be talking to the dead lol. ok, let's break it down real quick it's not crazy to be talking to a mystical being? it's not crazy that Mohammed flew to the moon on a horse?. right so there's different criteria of crazy now yh? LOL
How are you so able to use God and logical in the same sentence?.. this is the problem with humans they try to put ''OUR''' God into a box setting He/She/It's Criteria to say what He/She/It can down it doesn't work like that ''WE'' Don't' understand God but we know that theirs presence of God. that's the difference in which Humans need to understand
Lol, why picking on this muslim Guy with a hoodie, he clearly doesnt know what he talks about. I've had enough 2:10 in the video. Most isis members are muslims, YES. A muslim is somebody WHO believes in the 5 pilars of islam and the 6 pilars of imam, born muslim or converted by taking the shahada. (Tho everything isis does doesnt represent islam) I wanna Save My braincells, this is terrorizing me, wish I was there to help the poor Guy out...
Who is innocent.Muslims.
Bring in hamza!!!
Hahaha!
Lol anyone kills an innocent soul, then we have the verse sayinG If you do not FIGHT FOR ALLAH you are hypocrites of the Muslim faith. SO WHICH IS IT ?
No = non