7 People Who Changed Modern Jazz Drumming Forever

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  • Опубликовано: 8 июн 2020
  • Links of drummers featured in this video:
    Jeff "Tain" Watts - www.tainish.com/
    Greg Hutchinson - / hutchmaniac
    Clarence Penn - / clarencepenn
    Bill Stewart - appears to have no social media or website :P
    Brian Blade - www.brianblade.com/
    Eric Harland - / ericharland
    Kendrick Scott - / kadscott
    Marcus Gilmore - / drummerslams
    Mark Guiliana - / markguiliana
    Nate Wood - / natewoodmusic
    Maison Guidry - / maisonic
    JD Beck - / jdbeckmusic
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    Music from this video -
    Xavier's Lair - Branford Marsails (Tain) - • Video
    Got a Match - Chick Corea - • Chick Corea Elektric B...
    April in Paris - Wynton Marsails (Tain)- • Wynton Marsalis - Apri...
    Spartacus - Branford Marsails (Tain) - • Spartacus
    Friday the 13th - Branford Marsails (Tain) - • Video
    Citizen Tain - Branford Marsails (Tain) - • Video
    Too Marvelous for Words - Joe Williams (Hutch) - • Too Marvelous for Words
    Courage (Asymetric Aria) - Joshua Redman (Hutch) - • Courage (Asymmetric Aria)
    Confluence - Adam Rogers (Clarence) - • Confluence
    Seventeen - Dave Douglas (Clarence) - • Seventeen
    Everybody's Party - Scofield - (Bill Stewart) - • Pat Metheny & John Sco...
    Get It - Pat Metheny (Bill Stewart) - • [Go] Get It
    Blues Cowboy - Pat Metheny (Bill Stewart) - • Soul Cowboy (Live)
    Badlands - Seamus Blake (Bill Stewart) - • Seamus Blake - 02 - Ba...
    Count Me Out - Joshua Redman (Blade) - • Count Me Out (Live)
    Barcelona - Mark Turner (Blade) - • Barcelona
    Footprints - Wayne Shorter (Blade) - • Footprints (Live At Fe...
    Over Shadow Hill Way - Wayne Shorter (Blade) - • wayne shorter, brian b...
    Treachery - Eric Harland - • Treachery
    The Rules - Aaron Goldberg (Eric Harland) - • Aaron Goldberg - The R...
    Karma - Aaron Parks (Eric Harland) - • Karma
    Vonnegut - Lage Lund (Kendrick) - www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuchT...
    Pendulum - Kendrick Scott - • Pendulum
    The Source - Kendrick Scott - • TERENCE BLANCHARD THE ...
    Humpty Dumpty - Chick Corea (Marcus) - • Humpty Dumpty - Marcus...
    Chick Corea gig - • Marcus Gilmore with Ch...
    Historicity - Vijay Iyer (Marcus) - • Vijay Iyer - Historicity
    The Bucket Kicker - Gilad Hekselman (Marcus) - • Gilad Hekselman Quarte...
    Nate's video on Marcus - • Play Like Marcus Gilmo...
    Stadium Jazz - Donny McCaslin (Mark G) - • Donny McCaslin with Ti...
    Feediop - Avishai Cohen (Mark G) - • Avishai Cohen - 'Feedi...
    Locked in a Basement - Mark G - • Mark Guiliana's THING ...
    You Have One Unheard Message - Kneebody (Nate Wood) - • Kneebody at Moody's - ...
    Mark G Solo on Seven Ways - • Mark Guiliana drum solo
    Teddy Ruxpin - Kneebody (Nate Wood) - • Video
    Maison Guidry Clip - pB5AuahRgO...
    Sniff - JD Beck and Domi - • Nord Live Sessions: DO...
    Do I Do - Stevie Wonder (Eric Harland) - • SFJAZZ Collective - Do...
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Комментарии • 176

  • @sussvarman
    @sussvarman 3 года назад +35

    i SERIOUSLY respect that intro you gave man. you manage to show a wider issue through YOUR unique lens in a succinct and completely non pretentious way.
    super thoughtful words, great work dude!!!

    • @ts4gv
      @ts4gv 3 года назад

      sussvarman Ditto

  • @alexmanne
    @alexmanne 3 года назад +13

    I saw Brian Blade with Wayne Shorter. The back and forth between him and John Patitucci was just absolutely mind blowing. I saw Tain at the Village Vanguard. He was so good, I went back the second night. I saw Marcus Gilmore with Chick Corea. He's just disgustingly good. He really stood out. But the modern guy that just absolutely floored me when I first heard him was Antonio Sanchez. I'd never heard anyone play or sound like him before that. Incredible drummer, musician and a really nice, humble guy.

  • @euex
    @euex 4 года назад +26

    Unlike many other youtube drum teachers, this guy knows the music well. By the way, I fully agree with number one.

  • @zacdrake
    @zacdrake 4 года назад +2

    Thanks Nate! Thanks for the memorial, thanks for the introduction to some new sounds(for me), thanks for the list of links and thanks for bringing great content to YT!! Peace✌

  • @DavidCornejomusic
    @DavidCornejomusic 4 года назад

    Such a great video!! Thanks for sharing! So much hard work put into this

  • @genespleen
    @genespleen 4 года назад +4

    What a wonderful appreciation at this moment. Well-done!

  • @1musikgeek
    @1musikgeek 4 года назад +3

    Dude, your videos are so inspiring as of late. And the shownotes thing helps a lot!

  • @ricosalomar
    @ricosalomar 4 года назад +1

    Excellent intro Nate. Thanks for saying it so well!

  • @toothpastehombre
    @toothpastehombre 4 года назад +1

    I loved the demonstrations - great to see and hear. Also, nice work on being mindful and paying thoughtful respect with this solid list. Nicely done

  • @susanmaggiora4800
    @susanmaggiora4800 4 года назад +12

    Some nice thoughts, man. That Gretsch kit looked gorgeous as well🙂

  • @dikbeats2720
    @dikbeats2720 3 года назад +1

    Great stuff.. Really enjoyed this vid. Nate nails it every time.. Gotta love his humor, passion and knowledge

  • @ArkaEasyRiders
    @ArkaEasyRiders 4 года назад +2

    Beautiful video, this one. Great way of getting the message across.

  • @mechasartre3694
    @mechasartre3694 4 года назад +2

    You are a beautiful soul and a dope teacher. I’m really glad that there are musicians that aren’t just skipping this over.

  • @ned_potter
    @ned_potter 4 года назад +7

    Fricking love this channel

  • @tdrum21
    @tdrum21 4 года назад

    Great feature. Thanks for this 👌🏽🥁

  • @jorgelopez9620
    @jorgelopez9620 4 года назад

    one of my fav vids you have done, thanks for all the music to check out

  • @Doublebasist
    @Doublebasist 4 года назад +1

    This just popped up so can't wait to watch it in a bit, glad to see tains face in there as he certainly changed my playing.

  • @UltrafiAV
    @UltrafiAV 3 года назад +3

    And how about some love for our European brothers?!
    Han Bennink, Paul Loevens, Tony Oxley, Jon Christensen, Paal Nielssen-Love, Gard Nielssen, Phil Seaman, Michal Miskiewicz... and my favourite RUclips drummer no one has ever heard of, Franco Dal Monego.

  • @petertrotman7708
    @petertrotman7708 2 года назад +1

    Thanks, this great. When I was a young boy I was into Jazz Fusion via R&B in the 80's. It took a while to get into Jazz even though I could appreciate it. It wasn't until I heard Wynton's debut album that I became an instant fan of Jeff "Tain" Watts. My favourite of his playing is on "Knozz-Moe-King" from Wynton's "Think Of One" album.
    All the dynamics, the 'phat' kit sound, the production and his ability to Listen and Respond was a masterclass for any student. Legacy cemented.

  • @cedardreamsLLC
    @cedardreamsLLC 4 года назад +21

    "next generation" for me is Kweku Sumbry and Jeremy Dutton etc.

    • @blinkbeatbox4582
      @blinkbeatbox4582 3 года назад

      even obed calvaire

    • @johnthomas7070
      @johnthomas7070 2 года назад

      @@blinkbeatbox4582 💯 the best

    • @funkman0811
      @funkman0811 2 года назад +1

      Thank you Cedar sharing those Players I never had the pleasure to hear or see I Love our Drummer Brotherhood

  • @NiclasCiriacy
    @NiclasCiriacy 4 года назад

    Great Video. One I'll definitely watch multiple times

  • @fideldely5988
    @fideldely5988 4 года назад

    More power to you! Thank you for this.

  • @ikoiko28
    @ikoiko28 4 года назад

    Thank you for the added perspective!

  • @reeveesmayberry3076
    @reeveesmayberry3076 4 года назад +42

    i’m super surprised Ari Hoenig didn’t make this list

    • @paulpalavecino3360
      @paulpalavecino3360 4 года назад +3

      I thought the same but the list was very good as well. Ari's version of Moanin blew me away.

    • @xentakis
      @xentakis 3 года назад

      I was gonna say the same thing

  • @MacMic333
    @MacMic333 3 года назад

    Right now, I needed this.Thankyou for refreshing my compass...again...right in the middle of making an album...dohhh!

  • @JulianFernandez
    @JulianFernandez 4 года назад

    thanks for the links!

  • @170adamb1
    @170adamb1 4 года назад +3

    Love your channel.
    I love that you don't have £10k's worth of the latest drums all professionally miked up and eq'd to perfection!!
    I feel those types of channel will frustrrate newer and younger drummers who's kit's sound nothing like them!!

  • @nygaardstudios
    @nygaardstudios 4 года назад +1

    Bill Stewart's left foot can play circles around all of my limbs.
    -Really nice explanation between the spanning generations of drummers, too, thank you!

  • @170adamb1
    @170adamb1 4 года назад

    Great video!!
    I like to think music has played it's part over the years in breaking down racial barriers!!

  • @tarangpoddar
    @tarangpoddar 3 года назад

    Great video! Thanks!

  • @Doublebasist
    @Doublebasist 4 года назад +2

    Well it was as good as i thought, so satisfying to hear you put into words and pictures what i love to think about myself but you do it so well i just wish it could have been longer, to explore it even deeper would be amazing. Tains my dessert island drummer and even have a rocktagon to remind me of that. You give me so much to think about and other music to listen too and i really apreciate it. Yplaying a big part in my sons life too. When he is in the bath ( and my partner is at the gym ) i pretend that both nate smiths pop round to try my drum kit out and he loves it. It gives me an excuse to practice a bit. Thanks.

  • @minisurfbanana
    @minisurfbanana 4 года назад +4

    New set up👍
    I mainly listen hard rock and metal. Easy to follow on drums. Jazz drumming is like trying to play Yngwie coming from an acoustic guitar! So much much more dynamics.

  • @harrymears1623
    @harrymears1623 4 года назад

    I fucking love you sharing music. I have so much to listen to. Take me down a jazz hole anytime

  • @hilgi2003
    @hilgi2003 4 года назад

    Great list!

  • @udomatthiasdrums5322
    @udomatthiasdrums5322 Год назад

    still love your work!!

  • @drummerunner
    @drummerunner 4 года назад +2

    I was thinking the same, Hoenig deserves a spot. Great entertaining and teaching lesson, I'll listen to those records which I did not know. Grazie

  • @jihedbedoui7351
    @jihedbedoui7351 3 года назад +3

    Keith Carlock, i think he also influenced modern jazz drumming.

  • @sundog12100
    @sundog12100 3 года назад +1

    Thanks as always! A lot of interesting concepts in this one and really gives the viewer a lot to explore. I'm curious if Justin Faulkner was considered at all?

  • @dominikn19
    @dominikn19 2 года назад

    Beautiful first 3 minutes! ✊ My respect! 🙌

  • @cjwolfedrums2077
    @cjwolfedrums2077 4 года назад

    Well done!

  • @matt-spaiser
    @matt-spaiser 4 года назад +13

    Great list of drummers! In the past three decades, I think drumming has been the biggest change in jazz. We haven't seen much in the way of new harmonic language, but rhythms have evolved.

    • @arrjee9474
      @arrjee9474 3 года назад

      Absolutely right! That and sound ...

    • @garygomesvedicastrology
      @garygomesvedicastrology 2 месяца назад

      I think (sorry for being negative here) that the stagnation or ossification of jazz is one of the reasons why jazz has shrunk in popularity. Rhythm can change a bit because it really isn't paid attention to as much by the gatekeepers. But, as I indicated in other comments, it's a rediscovery process moreso than a new approach. That's good, because at least the music is breaking self imposed barriers-but it's got a long way to go to reclaim lost ground.

    • @garygomesvedicastrology
      @garygomesvedicastrology 2 месяца назад

      By the way, please don't take my comments as a criticism about what you are trying to do with your RUclips channel or your educational endeavors. I think you are doing a great job in promoting and guiding drummers. I was just really upset by what I personally saw as jazz being turned into a set form, treating it like a classical form (when it already was a classical form) afraid of change. Drummers can lead the way to freeing jazz to a more explosively exploratory form that is constantly pushing forward.
      I have guarded optimism for the future, so I want to end my observations on a positive note.

  • @mauriciocarloscostanzo2265
    @mauriciocarloscostanzo2265 4 года назад

    Great Video!! Thanks. And You play super cool!!

  • @neromagnus
    @neromagnus 4 года назад

    Yo Nate that video was soooo goooood!!!!!

    • @8020drummer
      @8020drummer  4 года назад

      Thanks buddy! Hope all's good with you :):)

  • @alexs5723
    @alexs5723 4 года назад +1

    Every song played in this video is amazing

  • @davidbrown9395
    @davidbrown9395 4 года назад +1

    Many thanks for the mellow.

  • @davidbock1801
    @davidbock1801 4 года назад

    Great channel, bro. Keep charging on. Jazz knows no racial boundaries.

  • @paulrodberg
    @paulrodberg Год назад

    Wow thanks so much.

  • @vatorres01
    @vatorres01 4 года назад

    Jazz facing so hard I got cramps on my face. What a group of artists.

  • @supmet2
    @supmet2 3 года назад +1

    Joey Baron? Gerald Cleaver? Gerry Hemingway? Ari Hoenig? Clarence Penn? Ralph Peterson? Vinnie Colaiuta? Chad Wackerman? Dafnis Prieto?

    • @8020drummer
      @8020drummer  3 года назад

      Clarence is actually in the video 🤣🤣

  • @pissnachoes
    @pissnachoes 4 года назад

    this one was good!!

  • @rocknroor
    @rocknroor 4 года назад

    great video and also my favorite you tube channel and im a below average stoner doom classic rock metal guitar player .who still wishes his mom didn't take away his favorite snoopy drum and make me play grampas acoustic guitar . thank you 80/20 for taking the time to do these videos smile . id rather be a drummer

  • @JoeyvanLeeuwen
    @JoeyvanLeeuwen 3 года назад +1

    Excellent video, surprised Justin Brown wasn't mentioned though

  • @jcarp6335
    @jcarp6335 Год назад

    Great list. A lot of stuff to go listen to here. I gotta bookmark this one! lol. But I felt like Dave King expanded my concept of what drums could do. Also, shout out to a personal fave, Scott Amendola from the Bay Area.

  • @ARGBlackCloud
    @ARGBlackCloud 3 года назад +1

    Only a guy from NEw York could put a list like that together, thank you jazz sensi !!

  • @tatesherman8273
    @tatesherman8273 4 года назад +3

    Steve Lyman is definitely part of the next gen. His technique blows me away every time I watch him.

    • @paradidd
      @paradidd 3 года назад +3

      Yeah, but I've never been moved by the guys playing.

  • @maxim_hue6089
    @maxim_hue6089 4 года назад

    Also very cool drumming from you!

  • @Rockin_Ross
    @Rockin_Ross 4 года назад

    Spot on!
    I must say that the kick drum you’re using has a low buzz so bad that it distracts from the kick you’re trying to demonstrate.

  • @maxcarter970
    @maxcarter970 4 года назад

    I wanna see the gear review! Also I think your videos that focus on jazz playing are more convincing. You seem more relaxed playing that genre.

  • @ramiroayala1200
    @ramiroayala1200 3 года назад

    Amazing list
    Bill is the best!!

  • @doca9357
    @doca9357 4 года назад +1

    nice to hear mention of Nate and Kneebody, bass played with some other fantastic players in a similar band in the early 90's, with another fantastic drummer mark raynes, too bad that band cornbread is not to be found on youtube

  • @drukilkelly8599
    @drukilkelly8599 4 года назад

    🙌🏻art moves mountains. bless up for the intent here.

  • @viniciuscruz796
    @viniciuscruz796 4 года назад

    CRAZY!

  • @carlupthegrove262
    @carlupthegrove262 4 года назад

    Well done...well said

  • @Badumdumcrash
    @Badumdumcrash 4 года назад

    Hey Nate would you mind saying what's that outro music you used?

  • @xuntdmc
    @xuntdmc Год назад +1

    totally agree with your opinion and choice to do an entire video about Billy Cobrahm's (mahavishnu early era specifically) contributions to jazz/fusion and influence as well as his very unique "goofy handed" - left handed on a right kit, with a dominant left hand style.
    😂 😉

  • @darzil007
    @darzil007 Год назад

    Absolutely agreed

  • @sonsauvage
    @sonsauvage 3 года назад

    Nate wood and marcus gilmore had my jaw on the floor the first time I heard them both play

  • @alejandrobustos2268
    @alejandrobustos2268 2 года назад +2

    It is inexcusable to forget Ari Hoenig.

  • @selvanegrra
    @selvanegrra 4 года назад +3

    Dave King would have been lovely! Great vid thooooooooo =)

  • @pjdahmen
    @pjdahmen 4 года назад

    Great tutorial

  • @jcarp6335
    @jcarp6335 Год назад

    Also, I know there’s a school of thought that credits Johnny Vidacovich with bridging the New Orleans trad approach with modern concepts in a way that is pretty influential.

  • @caffeineadvocate
    @caffeineadvocate 4 года назад +1

    By, "the Bill Stewart cup cymbal thing", do you mean where you sort of cup your hand with your grip to get that very "stick" cymbal sound?

    • @matt-spaiser
      @matt-spaiser 4 года назад

      No, he plays a cup cymbal.

    • @ml-ei3nz
      @ml-ei3nz 3 года назад +1

      But Bill himself says about his click sound, It came out of nessecity. His old K was to him too washy, he found this sound cutting through the wash when he needed clearer time information for the band

  • @Iamadrummer
    @Iamadrummer 3 года назад +1

    What about Nate Smith? He combines several types of jazz into his playing with lots of tempo changes without losing the overall feel of the tune, which makes it very interesting and exciting to hear.

    • @k.p.bolden7329
      @k.p.bolden7329 Год назад

      He's on the Crossover video that @80/20 Drummer created.

  • @billpeart
    @billpeart 4 года назад +5

    I don't think your video was tone deaf at all. Sometimes people come to your videos to escape the hell they live in. No need to mention. At a concert I saw with Wooten, Chambers and Franceschini, Wooten said, " I know a lot of people don't agree with whats happening in politics. I was talking about it one day to my brother and he said' Do you know who was king when Mozart was alive? Of course not, you're a musician and that's how you influence'."
    I felt that was very uplifting really. We are not politicians, lawyers, etc. We are musicians, and that's what we bring to the world!

    • @amorfati9861
      @amorfati9861 3 года назад

      Frederick the Great ... sorry had to do it , but i love the true point of your post. cheers

  • @ponk2634
    @ponk2634 4 года назад +1

    Nasheet Waits gotta be there

  • @adityatyagi4009
    @adityatyagi4009 4 года назад +1

    How would you assess Joey Baron?

  • @markrensinkdrummer
    @markrensinkdrummer Год назад

    I'm curious,Is the Tain solo clip from the "Bloomington" record with Branford?

  • @martinvelez9250
    @martinvelez9250 3 года назад

    Thank you for your opening comments about race and American music. So essential to take into account if we want progress. Once again, the arts community can be leaders in the struggle for black lives. Peace......

  • @funkman0811
    @funkman0811 2 года назад

    Nate I'm am truly Blown away with your observation in detail and your passion for the art and instrument you are a treasure for sure. Yes these young lions have added to and invented a new voice rhythm and vibe, Kendrick Scott Is a monster but here are some you may know or not I'm very old school Hell at 69 playing 60 years professionally 52 of them I seen and heard some exceptional drummers as now with Gregory Porter Emanual Harold Liston to Work Song from the Lowlands and Andy Fisenden from England going back and forth Roy Brooks Michael Carvin my mentor Mickey Roker with Bags and Check out OLINGA the Steel Bender the Metal Mender I'm not so sure just incredible His Funk Syncopation so tight yet it even swings, amazing then young cat from my neck of the woods Ritchie Barshay with the Dan Teper Trio but even better with Herbie Hancock and Hartfords Ct own Larry Dinatale who with his Beautiful Wife Connie are Legends here but check Larry out with Brad Mehldau ,Steve Davis and Larrys Defining Master work playing Giant Steps with Kenny Garrett at a blinding tempo RJ DeLorso Jr with Jackie McLean Rene McLean Nat Reeves Cecil Hotep Galata at jazz workshop just Mind Blowing Several others Ill ger back to you about just to share our Passion and other Musicians All the very very best

  • @owenmcgee8496
    @owenmcgee8496 3 года назад +1

    if fusion drummers tried to incorporate a rock sound or feel i don't hear a difference between post-fusion jazz drummers and pre-fusion jazz drummers. i saw bill stewart play with sylvian luc in a neighboring village/town once, here in Ireland....no, wrong, it was andre c. playing with luc and stewart was playing with wolfgang Muthspiel.

  • @darzil007
    @darzil007 Год назад

    Gentlemen quick question, who was with great late Roy Hargrove.on drums with his avant-garde band quintet. Last I seen was seattle,s jazz scene Dimitry,s

  • @MarkQuick0411
    @MarkQuick0411 4 года назад +1

    Shout out also to Billy Martian of MMW
    His playing is arguably my fav style of the jazz scene from the 90s

  • @stengreifer374
    @stengreifer374 4 года назад

    Look out for Kweku Sumbry, he just graduated from the New School and is already playing with some pretty big cats. Very Harland-influenced style, but definitely with his own personality

  • @LJDrumsTV
    @LJDrumsTV 3 года назад

    Wow.

  • @nicososa5752
    @nicososa5752 2 года назад

    Brian Blade is a genius!

  • @debased6141
    @debased6141 3 года назад

    what is it playing at 18:22?

  • @burakildiz9540
    @burakildiz9540 2 года назад

    Tyshawn Sorey!!

  • @davidmurray3374
    @davidmurray3374 4 года назад

    Awesome! What’s the Terrence Blanchard tune where Kendrick goes for it?!

    • @8020drummer
      @8020drummer  4 года назад +1

      Linked in the description, along with every tune from the video ;)

  • @charlessmith263
    @charlessmith263 3 года назад

    But I did grow up with Harvey Mason. Although not covered in this video, I think he was the drummer who changed traditional jazz fusion on drums forever when he performed with many years with great jazz guitarist, George Benson, in the mid-1970s onward.

  • @matebibilashvili5053
    @matebibilashvili5053 4 года назад

    Can you tell my tune name on 9:38

  • @katskillz
    @katskillz 3 года назад

    Nate's a cool cat. First met him in a California Guitar Center drum off in the early 90s. I'm like, who's this teenage hippie playing barefoot? Oh how he quickly bloomed.

  • @ignacioperezdelcastillo3182
    @ignacioperezdelcastillo3182 4 года назад

    Buen trabajo,,,,

  • @MonacoRocha
    @MonacoRocha 7 месяцев назад

    You Play Very Nice Bro..!

  • @danielkinney3286
    @danielkinney3286 4 года назад +5

    No Chris daddy Dave!?!?!? 🤯

    • @8020drummer
      @8020drummer  4 года назад +10

      One of my favorites but had more influence on drumming as a whole than just jazz drumming

    • @danielkinney3286
      @danielkinney3286 4 года назад

      The 80/20 Drummer oh shit, you’re totally right on that!!

  • @nikolamaric1819
    @nikolamaric1819 3 года назад

    Hutch🤟🏻

  • @gt3065
    @gt3065 4 года назад +1

    No Sanchez?

  • @josephsicora3838
    @josephsicora3838 4 года назад

    So does the other Nate Smith fit into this list at all? Or is he less game changing and more just really damn good? lol. Also do you have a list of jazz records that every drummer should listen too?

  • @mamajuke6309
    @mamajuke6309 4 года назад

    Good video, useful analysis! Don't mean to get overly pedantic, ultimately there are too many great players to talk about, but.....what about Nasheet??

    • @8020drummer
      @8020drummer  4 года назад

      Mama Juke one of my very favorites. Did two videos about him

  • @thenel2162
    @thenel2162 3 года назад

    tain is the man!

  • @MrEmanuelw
    @MrEmanuelw 4 года назад

    seems like the more we go into todays drummers we get.. the more it is about teh amount of notes