Heroes of Might and Magic III - The Power of Luna (HOMM3)
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- Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2013
- - Preface
Luna starts with the fire wall (FW) spell and the bonus of doing double damage with FW. She starts with the ability to do 80 damage with it and enough mana to cast it five times before recharging. If she's carrying a very weak army, such as the 1 pixie she comes with if she's not the primary tavern hires for the week, enemies will split into seven stacks, multiplying the effectiveness of FW.
-Instructions
Aim for +spell power (SP) and +XP until you have advanced fire magic (AFM). Also until you have expert water magic (EWM) if you've found the forgetfulness (FF) spell. Aim for 3rd level magic shrines until you have FF. Avoid archer enemies until you have FF and EWM. Avoid enemies that have archer upgrades unless you have a direct damage spell. Avoid flyers until you have AFM. You have to observe built in damage reduction such as golems, but can ignore chance magic resistance such as dwarves. When dealing with 2-hex enemies, leave a gap between you and FW or they will not approach. You can fill in the gap with a 2nd FW though and they will approach. Always be mindful of speed and morale eligibility. Use wait to manage when to cast FW and remember that it always lasts two rounds no matter what.
-Setup
Heroes of Might and Magic III Complete (GOG edition) with HD mod 3.55f, running at 1180 x 664, displayed at 1920 x 1080, captured and compressed with Camtasia Studio 8.1.2. Mage guild level 1 is already built to give Luna magic arrow.
-About
This information was originally posted by me on GameFAQs.com in a VERY verbose format. This video displays handling archers, mixed archer, flyers, stragglers, doubling back, damage resistance, capturing a 10k XP pandora's box, and defeating a bank with 1 pixie and no losses. It is not meant as a guide to demonstrate hero build, town build, or map clearing strategy. - Игры
20 years later, when you thought you knew everything about this game, you continue learning...
so treu...
ntn to learn its all iq either u have it or not
Been playing this for 22 years now and never knew that map stables upgraded Cavaliers to Champions...
master piece game
There’s something deeply therapeutic about watching stack after stack of low level creatures just walk into the same hex of fire and fall down.
>you're trying the same thing
>battle like the first one
>enemy imp gets morale
> *alt+f4*
214 likes, no replies? Interesting.
Because of this: Only undead enemys
"Is that woman coming at us with just her pixie friend?"
"Uhhh.... I think so"
*Flames rise from the ground*
"Okay, we'll just walk into this I guess"
Yeah! I'm not stupid I survived tha-
*gets pierced by a magic arrow
It says something about the AI in IV and V that they're actually dumber than in III.
I think that this pixie IS Luna
@@TK-nn8jd I don't know, because I've had my ass whopped by the AI in all Heroes games that I've played. So, for me, the AI is strong in all games xD
Lmao
Such an attractive pixie, all the monsters wanna die for her!
Can't blame them....he-he-he....I would die for a sprite though...^^
simps
@@jeccf5072 Enough time has passed that simping is cool again.
@@tylerdurden4392 there is not enough time in this universe for that
@@BenjoCovers Ha ha ha, then I need a Gordon Ramsey-status makeover or my restaurant's going under xD
but she looks like nicalas cage...
You don't say
very appropriate comment right here...
Genius :D agreed
Mes she's his sister
So true! Monere rules
What the heck did i just see? My mind was blown. I have never used fire wall. I'm such a noob.
Exactly my thoughts. Plus all the hours I've put into this game makes me feel even noober ;D
firewall isn't great unless in those few cases, the hero also has a specialty in it.
same her :/
scastro41797 well it is only helpful in beginning of match and only by single hero, so not a huge deal of missing
Lol I bought this game when it came out after playing part 2, I’ve never ever used the firewall... Insane
that moment when you are happy for your enemys good morale, because they walk into the fire even faster.
Luna = D Trump. Build the wall dammit
Wojtek K. Just shut ur mouth or i will laugh out my guts 😂.
A set of fun facts. If this game was released nowadays:
a) Luna, Galtran, Jeditte, Kyrre, Solmyr, Sir Mullich and Craig Hack would be sold separately as "THE LEGENDARY HEROES DLC";
b) Necromancy skill would be a part of pre-order DLC "THE LORDS OF THE DEAD"; Necropolis town would still be available to the general public though;
c) you would be able to purchase up to 1 Crystal, 1 Fairy, 1 Rust and 1 Azure Dragon per month (real-time), but you'd be allowed to surpass this limitation by buying PLATINUM GAME MEMBERSHIP;
d) only PREMIUM MEMBERS would be able to play Conflux;
e) game wouldn't run in offline mode, nor would it have LAN or Hot Seat multiplayer;
f) there'd be no random map generator; instead, the game would have Steam Workshop support and all the "I made dis" elf-hoarding maps by 8-year-olds you could possibly stomach
Is there a random map generator in the original Heroes III?
bull'seye!!! :D
BuzzKill yes
No, only in the expansion.
Question: would it be an EA or a Ubisoft title?
You know the game is already won when you see free boots of speed near your starting town.
when you see luna in your tavern
if you suck at economy range wont give you any advantage.
@@mitromney it's hard to suck at economy, though, in a game like Heroes, where economy management is only minimal. You just need to learn a few things (might take you minutes to learn them), and then repeat those things in every game, maybe in a couple of different ways depending on whether you're playing against the AI or a human player
@@blabla-rg7ky depends on maps. A hard map with very few ressources outside your castle at 200% difficulty, you'll have to wisely manage your economy.
Never have thought of this tactic. Very funny and effective.
+XuseFans Moon is forbidden in professional tournaments
i think she's not, but if you choose conflux, you got to choose random for starting hero
Paul Koltsov nope she isn't
fairy must cry : "YOU SHALL NOT PASSS!!!"
after watching this earlier today i tried it out myself and its so much fun!!! im making almost no mistakes and killing everything with firewall and magic arrow > i even made a small map full of melee monsters to practice it and its fun!!! nice skill btw!!
i was literally waiting for you to attack dwarven treasure lol
9:07 - rofl at that Golem going the other direction xD
That golem : My life is sad and I wanna die
The writeup is good but the video itself undersells her because you're mostly fighting relatively weak armies that could be crushed with no/minimal casualties with most factions.
It's a good illustration of how to manipulate the AI pathing though, and as this levels up you can do some really silly things with it + 7 stacks of 1 pixie etc. The real draw for Luna is that she can clear out otherwise difficult stockpiles/banks/mines and (if she has forgetfulness) even relatively impressive numbers of shooters this way pretty early in the game to open resources sooner, and a quick look at this video and your (fast) positioning leads me to believe you cleared many harder neutral stacks with her :).
This hero is amazing! Fire wall works like a charm!
That's pretty amazing! I have never seen LUNA !
Remarkable demonstration!
I only used firewall to protect my flying units in sieges. This is inspiring.
I really like this video and the others were u attack the cripts, I even admit they inspired me to attack banks much sooner then I used to. So would like to invite u to publish more. How about a full map? Something like Time of Profecy, Alexander the great or To Kill for Power. It would be great.
this is brilliant
This video is fun!
that pixie is from krypton.
The power of AI manipulation.
Does anyone know which template this is? Looks like default but I'm not sure
This is why some people love newer versions of the game where mobs know to think... but this is more fun :D
Utterly disgusting.
Will have to try Luna one day.
Can you tell me what capture video software you are using ?
Nicolas Cage?
hello i read your guide on gameFAQ and its great. How do you make units move so fast (less frames) in combat? it saves alot of time for trying out these strategies. thanks in advance
Goltermann87 Glad you liked it! Even though it's a common modification, I wasn't able to find a reliable standalone source online. So I uploaded my own. You can grab the mod here:
www.mediafire.com/download/pb5eibciuq12i0i/cranim.txt
It's a TXT file. Just drop it into your Heroes 3's /Data/ folder. As I understand it, it's a file the game can run whether it's present or not. If I'm mistaken in that regard and your install already has this file there, rename it to something like cranimORIG.txt before putting this one in. That way even you ever want to go back to life without it (you won't :P), you can.
Hope that helps!
This reminds me of a scene with a grenade that says: Pick me up!
extraordinary
We got it. You are good at firewalling
Insane
imagine if his mouse glitched and he firewalled his own pixie ;] nice video ;]
a very under-rated spell
great mage!!
looooool this is brilliant
Just got this on GoG, but having trouble with the controls.
What's the difficulty? Will this still work on hard, expert or impossible?
holy fuck this is the best :D
Well, how did you find such a Luna map? My maps never show such support.
What version of HOMM3 is it?
Ok what if You don't have blind or forgetfulness. How to beat range units then? :P
This is just ONE of the reasons why conflux is ridiculous. There's many more.
Tactical Chunder When you enemy player hit-and-run you with armageddon using 1Phoniex, you want to kill him in person.
Lol, so true (I main conflux)
But that is not the only race in which it is possible
@@Zara-game-channel And then you secretly equip Orb of Vulnerability and then you have a laugh :)
@@aleksandar5323 there are a few items that ruin the suicide bom run.
Oh good lord I'm laughing so hard
Holy crap!
yep, I never gave this hero much consideration, but now - 20+ years later after playing this game - this will change xD
What?!!!!!Good job1
Like a moth to the flame...
lol, good pun :)
Memories... about HOMM 3&4 backs...
why is every creep stacked like that? Everytime i play they are random. Sometimes two bigger stacks sometimes 7 smaller ones.
If your army is very weak compared to enemy one then they split up into many smaller ones.
They only do 1-2 large stacks when you are too strong for them.
I suppose the player had a 5% chance to lose the fight starting at 06:22. The blue pixie could get a morale bonus, if memory serves me correctly. Unless she picked up Spirit of Oppression somewhere which I missed.
ITS A SPRITE NOT A BLUE PIXIE
TRIGGERED
There's also the earlier fight with he imps where one of the stacks was up'd to familiars (who also would have killed the pixie if they'd gotten a morale bonus).
Not to mention dwarven magical resistance chance)
If i recall correctly, they could have resisred firewall
What map is this bro?
Looks very powerful, but when i play, monsters refuse to spread, they doing 2 or 3 big stacks. :(
This is because the army you're carrying is stronger. Strip down to a weaker army. I would recommend no more than 30-40 Pixies/Sprites.
What kind of mod are you using?
The title should be (The power of FIRE WALL)🔥🔥🔥
I don't think so. Fire Wall isn't the worst, but it's so much better at double strength.
Hey, awesome video! I got a question for you. Did you bought this version or not? from where you have downloaded it? Cuz I bought this game from Steam and it doesn't have any DLCs and some features which is really sad and takes alot of fun from me. I really want to know this, I want to remember my childhood when I plaid this game with dlcs :D
+Rokas S. You can get HOMM III Complete (all expansions) on GOG.com for like $10. Then head over to Heroes Community and grab the HD mod and you should be good to go.
Ugh, I got a problem with these kind of sites. I don't have a credit card so I can't buy them. Do you know where I could download it as a cracked version?
I don't know where you live, but you should be able to take that same cash and get a pre-paid credit card. No, I will not participate in discussions that could land me in legal trouble. I do this for fun, not to get arrested.
Pre-paid credit card? What's that?
+Rokas S. There are cards where you can purchase them for 5 dollars or so and load them up with money. Once the money is gone the card will no longer work, however you can use them online.
great. from japan.
This is god-like skill XD
Most funny thing is that, 15 years ago it was already known that Luna is not good for tournaments and all that. so after many years it's again like revelation... Something new is forgotten old...
hey which map is this?
Genial.
Conflux is SO OP!!
not when you play it like me (one epic battle at the end of month 12 against the AI, or my friend). In those kind of battles both phoenixes and magic elementals (Conflux' - supposedly - strongest army) dies fast against any other faction. So, no, Conflux is NOT overpowered.... unless you play competitive games where fights take place during the first few weeks / months. In those scenarios, yes, Conflux is op. But I don't play those, therefore conflux is shit
It looks so zoomed out, much better actually...
Heroes 3 HD Mod. its free to download and easy to use!
Шел медведь по лесу, видит машина горит...
One of my favorite spell to molest enemy troops. I always set up a firewall then sit and watch and laughing out loud XDXD
And what if you have to fight ranger units?
You can find an example here: ruclips.net/video/n7XlVDDrrcw/видео.html
watching this in 2018
Во имя Луны!
How can you view the possible movement of your enemie at 2:53 ?
Georgi Petrov It's a feature of the HD mod. I forget if it's CTRL or Shift, but you hold one of those buttons while hovering over an enemy.
+Georgi Petrov Here is how: put your cursor on an enemy stack. Hold CTRL, then right click the enemy stack while holding again, then release CTRL and then RMB. Hope this helped!
cheeky
Why the heck monsters always splitted in small groups? what if you faced 25 + 25 knights not in small 5 groups
Tanya Sova They split because he had a small amount of troops (1 Pixie)
Now thats some Lunatic shit rt
This should be called the power of magic,the player did not won by the "luna" ,but because he cast "firewall"
But Luna ability make firewall 2x stronger
But what to do in case of flyers?
I fight flyers at 6:21. You need Advanced Fire Magic so Fire Wall will be 3 hex, then you just use the edge of the map.
the name of the map? i wanna play that
Well fuck me. I've played this game for hundreds of hours and never thought to do this.
Pretty lucky that you got a second option for advanced fire magic right away after picking basic water magic ?!?!? the first time.
+groopsecks you should be a beginner player. Luna starts with basic wisdom and basic fire magic so he got 50% to get advanced fire magic at the first level up.
OOO SHIET
what map is that?
with grass
9:00 Haven't Golems magic damage reduction?
Uh huh. Once your power is high enough, you toast them even with that reduction :)
what about shooting ones?
Mass Forgetfulness.
water magic pick?)
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Magic>Might why did I switch my status from wizard to barbarian?
because in Heroes 3 might is actually better than magic
Monster strenght is strong i think? Just because there is 1 pixie in Luna's army AI spread out?
Yeah...that's why they split into smaller stacks.
what is the possibility to get water magic and forgetfulness this early? cool video but any shooter neutral army and this strategy wont work
The video shows how the strategy DOES work against shooters.
@@Dushku it does but the probabilty that u'll get forgetfulness and water magic in the start of game is very low
@@neonbelly4 Why do you say that? As a magic hero, she's offered water very easily. Meanwhile, the rest of your army can be finding shrines and/or taking over cities where you can prioritize 3rd level guild mages to seek out Forgetfulness.
Either way, the video is a proof of concept. It's up to the individual player how much stock to put into it.
@@Dushku i think it isn't worth it to dive into upgrading luna that much. u'll need a lot of spellpower to clear out monsters midgame and a fast, strong 1 hex flying unit, which energy elemental might be. i dont play maps larger than L, so there's less freedom to use a strategy like this
@@Dushku and i know this is a premade map with 3 learning stones nearby to make a point for this stategy, but its a very narrow use stategy for my liking, enemy hero can kill u with no trouble if u go with a single stack
More like the limitations of AI and luck in not having to face ranged opponents
it`s all a matter of luck , like the first fight, if the familiars had morale like imps after , you were already dead
its all a matter of having spirit of oppresion
I was doing same tactics, for the first time one of them get a morales and i died
Who still play this game and know if the online multiplayer still works?
A lot of these awesome tactics really take advantage of the game's somewhat poor AI... like creatures stupidly walking straight into a wall of fire due to it being the closest path to the target, or armies wasting a valuable turn attacking a harmless 1-unit army
Why didn't you buy buildings at town?
There is no building that would help me to showcase the potential power of Luna, which is the video's aim.
Getting water magic boots of speed and forgetfulness... difficult to pull off every game.
Impressive display of Luna's power :) Nearly blew it at 00:18 though, if the Familiar had a morale bonus move :)
Is the AI that stupid on all difficulties or just the lower ones?
The funny thing is if you improved the AI to avoid firewall it completely removes this strat.