That was hard to watch. Just awful. I cannot imagine sitting in an audience watching any of this tripe and thinking "yes yes...that makes sense". But my family and friends still do. It makes me so sad.
Just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them over to a disapproved mental state, to do the things not fitting. And they were filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, and badness, being full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, and malice, -Romans 1:28 William J
I'm not done watching, but Lord, please, the birthday clip is so unbelievable! How can anyone buy into this, they aren't even pointing to a bible verse that forbids birthdays, how twisted and abhorrent to aim at a child's childhood. I've asked my sister about this many times, she never has a good answer, but then again, she's mentally unstable as it is. As a matter of fact, 2 days ago, she got in my face, screamed I was Satan, punched and kicked the storm door and all because I asked her not to go wake up my 89 year old mom who is gravely ill. I thank my lucky stars every day that at 13, when a JW tried to turn me, I was able to read through the pamphlets and see the hypocrisy being spewed This is nothing more then a cult, scary really.
Jehovah can fix your screen door. He does not have Jesus do that kind of work anymore. Jehovah can fix anything. He is a very handy God to have in your tool box. If you don't have a tool box he can stay in your garage. When you need something done just pray to him. He will fix it up for you. "G.T.W.O.M.S"!
Captain Alan I'm sure that God could keep busy with much better things then my screen door. I'd rather he/she stop war, disease and starvation for starters.
@@remedy9648 Stopping war, crime, hunger, disease and things like that would cut into the profits being made. That in turn would cut the contributions being made to JW.BORG. Therefore fixing screen doors , finding roof leaks and bypassing alarm clocks is what is being focused on now. You can find the Broadcast videos that illustrate the proper kinds of things to pray for. It's very simple when you pray to find a roof leak; according to the video God will answer that prayer. It's all in the videos. I'm not kidding. JW BROADCASTING really had a dumb ass that joined the religion because he prayed over a leaking roof. Jehovah found that leak and he joined up. Save us all from such stupid asses. "G.T.W.O.M.S"!
I've surrendered my future to watchtower. And although I've been free from them for 18 years, I've never recovered it. They robbed me of so much potential. I've accomplished so much since my exodus, but I can't help but think of where and who I'd be if they hadn't controlled my young life. I feel cheated. I feel like they stole from me and it really hurts.
@@cheekygingerdoesstuff7223 It's good, better than jw, but wouldn't say it "fantastic". As a former atheist, I would say a sense of emptiness the atheism gives you in the end of the day, isn't a fantastic situation in deed. Anyway everyone rest with fis needs. I don't think that everything around us is just a zero fantasy with no inner meaning. Its a matter of the need to researching about the world and it's meaning.
@God so loved the world. I don't know if you're a troll or not, but no. I took my life back because it is mine. It doesn't belong to any other individual, organization, or mythological diety.
The child in class not signing a birthday card was triggering for me as a "walk-in" JW as a 20-year old adult in 1992. Shortly thereafter I took a "stand" on Christmas and when my Father was sending out Christmas cards to family and friends also signing it with my name on it and I insisted not participating, he literally cut out my name that he had signed on the card and mailed out the cards with the cutout. My Father was so livid about me simply not wanting to acknowledge others to have a nice holiday. In December of 2016 when I was still doing "Cart Work" and asleep with the exception of the growing child abuse awareness problem. So I asked a local elder I was doing cart work with how we should deal with Christmas greetings as people were walking by saying "Merry Christmas". This guy was a missionary in Zimbabwe for 12 years and is a 54-year-old elder now here in Wisconsin and he tells me "Dave, it's just a greeting" after I explained to him in my Chicago JW congregation it was treated as though saying "Merry Christmas" was a Judicial Committee offense worthy of Reproof or disfellowship for "going along with paganism". Ridiculous. Glad I am wide awake here two years later no longer wasting time or wasting my life at a cart promoting watchtower propaganda!
I disassociated myself because of the nightmares.... not of Armageddon.... but the thought of living forever on paradise earth with my mother in law...... no thanks
If you can get your PitBull to protect you from Jehovah's Witnesses and your mother in law you'll have some reinforced insulation against cult mind control and undue influence.🐕
My mother inlaw is dead. I'm not ever wanting to see her again. OMG she was a terrible woman. She once belittled me for wanting to return a big box of food that a woman left after moving out of the house I had just purchased from her. She had three small children and had sold the house to me because she had lost her husband. My mother inlaw called me a fool for calling her to tell her she left the packed box full of groceries. The people in her congregation thought she was such a nice person. If only they had known her for what she was. I'm no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I haven't joined any religious group. I'm free of all of that stuff and I'm glad to know I'm not obligated to be stuck with them (JWs) for eternity. All I know is I'm free and I'm happy. I've never looked back. I'm living the rest of my life with a few goals to look forward to. I'm traveling, setting my life in order for retirement. I'm a little late on that, but I like the challenge of accomplishment. It feels good to have a say so in my own life.
I just “woke up” today. From your videos. I was raised in the truth my whole life and stopped going to meetings a little over a year ago and have been on a journey and quest to find both the truth and myself. This is nauseating and relieving and I am overwhelmed but would welcome any advice, insight, or comfort.
I hope your doing well, an congrats on getting out of this controlling cult.. ❤️ We have a huge family here an several groups on Facebook, were all here for you..
Samantha Adams wow I don’t even remember writing that! I am in such a good place and so genuinely happy now I’m my life. Love my ex jw community and thank you for reaching out!!! Hope you’re doing well :)
My waking up was more of a gradual process.. i had decided i didn't believe a lot of WT's teachings, but ran across Lloyd's videos, found out so much more! I hope you are ok & didn't get sucked back in. There are lots of Facebook groups for exJWs & the exJW reddit group. All are eye opening. But many of us are badly damaged by Watchtower's teachings & it takes a long time & a lot of work to overcome it. Working with a therapist that is knowledgeable of cults or groups of undue influence might help.
It's strange, growing up as a JW I had no idea who the men behind the curtain were. They were kind of mysterious and holy. Now they're in all these videos and highly visible, I can see they're just blokes who don't seem particularly bright, and have lead very insulated lives. I don't know how anybody can watch this stuff and not see past them (especially Lett and Morris).
I remember that once in my congreation (I was 6 years old or less) this guy took a banana, he peeled it a little and started carving it with a small fork to illustrate how much damage Satan can do if we open him a little slot. He made it while he was giving his talk. Then, by the end of his speech, he peeled the whole banana, it broked and fell to the floor. Hence, you will be broken, eaten, destroyed by Satan from the inside to the outside little by little. Everyone clapped at him and some even stood up. I laughed so hard to the whole thing...and of course, as you can imagine...I got "disciplined" when I got home. My dad hit me with his leather belt specially hanged for "discipline" at our house. After that, we went on the haunting of Satan´s small fork of influence at home. Super Mario Bross 3 went to garbage as result, since all the kings at the end of the game stages were turned to insects or animals by magic, and Mario´s task was to find a magic wand to undo the spell. We used to play it with dad when we got the Nintendo console (as a present from grandpa, of course, a present out of any wordly celebrations). It really got us together. I can picture dad, my brother and I playing up to very late at nights when we were on vacation time, laughing and passing the controller by turns, screaming when we were finally able to pass a difficult zone or when we discovered a trick. My mom was not very good at playing, but she was there screaming with us as well, and of course, she will suddenly disconnect the console when she thought it was enough, like a normal mom would. Now it had to be thrown away because...yeah...Satan's little poison was preventing my dad to get a job that can provide for us, we were broke because of a game...sure...My parents were fighting all the time because of it too, not because they only knew each other for like three months before my mom got accidentaly pregnant with me, and they didn`t plan to have my brother so soon either. We didn´t have a decent house to live, we were all crowded in this little room, with mould in the kitchen, and a shared bathroom which shower wasn't allowed to be used on Sundays (because it was meeting day and no one should do other than study Watchtower magazine and prepare comments for the service. It was not allowed to wash clothes on the yard either), in this old ugly house full of old people that used to throw their feces to the careless garden because they were so old and lonely that they didn't even realize what they were doing anymore (the landlord was a witness, of course, renting to other faith siblings), forced to play with the only Jehova´s witness kid around, which was a spoiled and unbearable boy that broke the few toys we could afford...ALL OF THIS WAS A RESULT OF MAGIC SATAN`S GAME! My father said he was as sad as us...but...this game was "grieving the spirit of god" from our lives...so we had to be good witness and make Jehova happy, 'cause, who wants to make him sad, right? It went away. I can remember my father´s face that moment, like if he was a martyr dying for Jehova... This triggers me so bad...I can't hold this feelings, really. Not to mention the "Don't be sad we kicked grandma out of the house because she dared to bring a birthday cake for you, we can have a party any day with no reason at all...this makes Jehova happy, you don't need a special day, your not special or worth of attention more than our god, and your grandma is a catholic bad association bicth,". The: "What would happen if Armaggedon comes and you're at the university" or the "You cannot be friends with that girl your age that pretends to teach you how to play the piano, because she's wordly. You are only allowed to associate with this teen girl that gives you a biblle study and is the elder's daughter. It doesn't matter that she goes to the bathroom with her wordly boyfriend to pass a good half an hour there. She says you can play with her dolls, use her perfumes and you're not forced to read that boring fucsia cover book talking about Jesus as long as you don't say anything". True was that grandma payed for our rent at least 11 of the 12 months of the year, because most of the jobs my dad was offered as a man with no university education were not appropiate for a christian, and mom could not get a job cause...she had to be under her husband authority. My neighboor was a nice well behaved girl who had no brothers and sisters and so no other kids to play, so she asked me if I could be her friend in exchange of piano lessons. The elder's daughter got pregnant at 17, her father was disfellowshipped because of his bad attitude, then he divorced her wife and married a girl 20 years younger. I left the organization when I was 14, I went to unversity later, got my diploma, and when I was able to understand my brainwashed condition, I realized that a Satan's magic game brought our family together, while the Jehova's true god sick organization tore us apart with its banana's and bread's illustrations. My parents are divorced these days, in case you were wondering. My mom migrated to work as a maid to Spain because we had no food or place to live, we kids were all grown and grandma was too old to keep providing for us. My dad reacted by becoming an alcoholic depressed man. He attempted suicide twice, and when we asked why he made such thing, he said that since he lost his wife, his family, he wasn't a man enough to please god, and that he didn't deserve god's mercy anymore...he said he was going to be destroyed at Armaggedon and never resurrected anyway, so he was just speeding up the process. Seriously... Fuck this Watchtower bullshit! I'm a poisoned bread... LOL!
"I am poisoned bread", that was the most heart wrenching thing I have read in a long time. Its sickening what this organization does to the minds of fully capable people. "Breaking them" and turning them into people completely reliant on Watchtower. I grew up in a home with an Elder Father and Pioneer mother, so I am well aware of the throwing away of games and toys that "grieve the spirit".
The fact that your family situation was deteriorating and there was no solace in the congregation, says alot about "The Truth". I just dont get how anyone could read your story, see the pain and just "Blame Satan". I am so sorry...
Great video. There is something ‘off’ about the way that JW presenter talks. He speaks in such an... odd... broken up... weirdly toned... way... and I cannot... figure out... why....
I think it's because the governing body......believing that they are anointed......and partake at the Memorial......are all mentally ill (according to JW logic).
I want to say thank you for your videos. I’m 52 and was brought up as a witness from the age of about 7. I’ve been out about 7 years now but had always struggled to really believe when I was in. I went to the elders many times with my doubts. However, despite that I’ve found it almost impossible to free my brain. Currently binge watching your videos and reading everything I can get my hands on. Finished The Reluctant Apostate today, great book! Starting Crisis of Conscience for the second time. I feel I can now say I was brainwashed. It’s scary what this self perpetuating religion is doing to families. Mine has been shattered.
Jo Pye congrats on your new found freedom! It takes a strong person to pull away from this type of brainwashing cult, especially one that trains you to believe that disbelieving them is equivalent to turning on your higher power. 💜💜💜
My emergence from Catholicism took 20 years. I never believed in gods but I was afraid of dying. At 70 I am no longer afraid of threats of damnation from religious bullies.
Jo Pye: sister, you and I are exactly the same age. The difference is that I was raised a JW but I was a natural rebel. That helped to free me early. Even though I was going to the meetings and pretending to adhere to the religion, I was as worldly as the next girl on the college campus. I was able to lead the double life of role-playing just to please my mom and get my education! The moment I got a job, freedom and independent I left and never looked back. I would never put my kids through this nightmare! I love my mom but she was uneducated and vulnerable!
Everything else leave it in Jehovah's hands. BUT, money. Nope. Like all religions in Babylon the Great, we need money. God cannot make money. God is limited.
I don't believe for one second that the organization is in denial. They are more concerned about their reputation. They could care less about the child that went through a horrific experience. They are allowing sexual sexual abuse to occur in their Kingdom Halls they just cover it up. The last clip concerning shunning is absolutely deplorable. Parents cutting off their children is unacceptable. To me this demonstrates that Jehovah Witnesses are not loving kind Christian people.
@@0nawa164 I am very sorry your parents cut you off at 18 . That breaks my heart . I hope your parents realize that was very harmful to you . They need to shoe you how much they love you and say sorry . To cut your child off is absolutely disgusting . Not a good way to show GOD'S love . I have major issues with JWOrganization . It is a very destructive cult . GOD BLESD YOU
Gary "Bro"(not) stands up there staunchly and proudly defending this 2 witness rule foolishness. And, as Lloyd points out at 37:50, this is in reference to child molestation within the WhOrg. How these fools can be this dumb is beyond comprehension. Especially after how such a perspective was completely demolished by the ARC and Angus Stewart; using Scripture no less! So if anyone follows these morons just remember they have a habit of pissing into the wind, they never seem to learn. These are your "spiritual guides"!
I’m literally on tears..... just realizing what they did to me... I’m 60 years old and my life was ruined by them... was not able to even finish my elementary school ... therefore I couldn’t offer my kids a better lifestyle... :(
I am sorry. But God world is true. People the are not tell the truth. Pray to God to forgive them and keep u in the truth from the bibel. Ex 20:8-11 This the truth from God. Not JW u can pray with your family members God is there for you. God bless u my sister of Brother. Do u see now what happens. God is God. Hi give them time to make a change but. There was still not tell people the truth. JW is Lie Iam from Angola. ❤❤❤❤👋🏿
I believe that God brings couples together and no one is to tear them apart. God sends them children and “before you were I knew him” and the dynamics of a family are planned by God. Even horrible fathers or husbands are given to you and kids die to teach and prepare you for your future but the society shunning is evil.
I was born and raised JW. I started questioning them at 7. When I was 9 I asked if orphans and children who died if they would go to paradise they told me that they wouldn't go because their parents were not jw. They told my parents that I wasn't a good child or JW because I read books that I wasn't supposed too. I was never baptized and I left the church as soon as I could.
The shunning is the reason I even began looking at apostate material (it's how I found your channel). After I got over the initial fear of lightning bolts, I learned so many other things that have made it clear that I will never return to them. I was a witness for over 40 years.
I understand you very well. I am Polish and I write to you from Poland. Please forgive me, but I do not know English well and I use an online translator. I was Jehovah's witness for 35 years. My mother was about 15 years old. I am doubly excluded exjw. This inhuman organization destroyed my family when I was young, and now that I'm old. My marriage is in disarray. My wife is a constant pioneer but has not lived with me for several months. Because I am a renegade for her. I'm interested in exJw channels in other countries, because what this organization is doing with honest and God-fearing people, in the world, cries out for vengeance to Christ the Lord! All religious systems are the property of Satan the Devil and his bunch of malicious demons. Beech Forest is my nickname. Best regards
Same here ,sometimes I go the meetings and I feel sorry for the brothers that still preaching for them . Waste of time’, but kingdoms hall are empty now
Thank you so much for this video! I'm floored by what I just watched! These men are wolves in sheep's clothing. I'm sharing your videos with all of the EXJWs in my family! My father is the only one who hasn't snapped out of the extreme mind control that he's under. Your videos are helping me learn how to get inside my dad's head and understand what is going on in there! Thank you 🙏🏻 ❤️
It’s brilliant a way of teaching humility all according to God‘s word the Bible ! Therefore, whoever will humble himself like this young child is the one who is the greatest in the Kingdom of the heavens; Matthew 18:4 The Island Workshop Candice V
While you may personally feel that your first and original rebuttal was a tad optimistic, let me reiterate the fact that your brand of activism helps so many out there-myself included. Thank you for that. Let the positive far outweigh any perceived negative!
I noticed that when Stephen Lett presents he shakes his head to indicate "no" as he makes statements, such as "I have no regrets becoming a pioneer at 17."
I was never a JW so I can't relate in that area, but I know the feeling you're describing. I was an evangelical/pentecostal, and demons were very real to me. Every now and then it still frightens me and I feel so silly for being scared.
These people are the best they can get to be Governing Body. None have more than grade 8 education? Really? And all are part of the anointed? This is the best we get?
@@donsnider4607 LOL, when the GB (Gone Blind) made their debut with the first broadcast of the "annual meeting" I was like you have to be kidding! These are the guys running things? I began to realize I was in a 3 ring circus. Watching the ARC hearings thereafter sealed it for me.
@@donsnider4607 To me, this is what every single organization on Earth would look like if whackjobs were allowed to flourish and not have real competence and competition to push them tf out.
They never talk about Jesus, do they? It's always Jehovah vs. satan. "Jehovah has paid high price for us"-don't they mean Jesus? There's nothing christian about that cult.
They talk about Jesus as little as possible. Then when they do have to mention him it’s just that he was a good example. Muslims think Jesus was a good example. That’s not Christianity
@@helenablack746 Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple"
I was the unbelieving mate. My EX wife would do whatever they asked of her. It caused a lot of problems in our home due to her wanting to show she was a spiritual sister. I’m so glad that NIGHTMARE is over. One great thing that happened, I was able to take my daughters blindfolds off so they could see the REAL truth.
Thank you Lloyd. Yes, even older ones are affected by this horror and fear. My 90 year old mother has dementia, and cries constantly, because she’s in fear of Armageddon. It just sickens me.
My mom is 94 and watching what she’s going through is horrible, and the witnesses aren’t there for her but her worldly daughter that was a disappointment to her mother is . 😕
Granvela Waldie I’m so sorry, it’s really sad. My mom is 3 hours away, where my older sister lives, and and I had to fight to see her, she wouldn’t have shunned me when she was alert, and doesn’t now, but my siblings do, and we’ve just faded. They actually started when my husband resigned as an elder. She does get visitors from the pioneers, but as someone who pioneered for over 20 years, I know it’s just another way to get their time in. It’s really so sad.
Thanks for your dedication to this message Lloyd. I was born and raised, but left as a teen after I witnessed a brutal beating of my friend, by his father after we missed a meeting one Sunday morning. I reported it to the elders where it was promptly swept under the rug. Cheers mate!
Lloyd - your selection of the worst videos repeatedly astonishes and is the stuff of great hilarity. So we have a young JW-raised kid pressured to sign a birthday card for a kid who has cancer - and if he signs, it’s tantamount to worshipping the golden calf condemned in Scripture. Stupendously baseless and daft comparison. That this goes down so seriously with JWs as spiritual food at the proper time - or at least those who bother to watch - is evidence of dulled-down brains. You’re right- the addition of the JW-raised kid preaching to the kid with cancer is unspeakably offensive. Where were the boy’s parents? Did they know the kid visiting their son was preaching to him? Oh they keep it lovey-doveyvabout ”paradise” but how would JW parents react if their son had cancer and one of his school mates sneakily started to preach his religion to the JW-raised kid? Would they be okay about it?
Getting a higher education will certainly free you from mental imprisonment. When you acquire a higher education, opportunities are right there waiting for you. Free yourself from this nightmare of lesser education, and go to awesome discoveries when you mentally travel towards higher education. Once you reached your goal, then you could look back and see how wrong they were in JWs advice and belief. Good luck in your journey. Unlimited opportunities awaits you!!!
The glass smashing still makes me laugh, every time i see it. He's having a tizzy, like a mini Yaweh, because let's face it, the god of the Bible is a genocidal drama queen.
When I first saw that it sent shivers down my spine because I knew that was how the gb really felt about people. The gb and many other JW's are very hateful wolves in sleeps clothing.
I've never been involved with the JWs so I'm just speaking as an outsider, but Stephen Lett is one of the creepiest people I've ever seen. He's like a pod person mixed with Norman Bates.
"We may feel a little shy to talk about the financial needs of the organization... we in no way want to be categorized with other organizations that coherence supporters..." So let's talk about those 2" paint brushes.
I was raised as a JW for the first 22 years of my life. Mostly the 60"s thru 80's and SHUNNING has always been my experience in the Kingdom Hall for any disfellowshipped person. I'm not sure where the speakers date of this practice beginning in 1981 or 1984 came from? It was always the a form of punishment in any congregations I had attended and continues to this day. I left the religion when I was 22, never looking back. JW's is just another CULT for men who get off on POWER and self righteousness.
I can see why you choose #1. After personally experiencing shunning at it's worst (left to fend for myself and my two children during 2 hurricanes Ike and Rita). My kids and I learned very quickly how conditional jw love really is! Thank you so much!
It’s so despicable to go with a religion that dwells with more on shunning and less with unconditional love with one another, especially to their own family. The emphasis is more of separation and less on unity and togetherness. After all , an unconditional love ❤️ should always prevail. This belief of shunning is producing a lot of broken families. It’s selfish and cruel. What kind of paradise where you be?
This is so cringe worthy. My toes were curling. Letts tone and content is not out of place when speaking to infants. We had an elder who's talks were a mirror image of this routine. I had to go to the loo to escape.
Oh my God. I’ve never seen anything like that first one before. That is scary. Edit: After watching al of these I can say that the message is: Give us your money, don’t think for yourself, and don’t talk to anyone outside the cult.
On the subject of disfellowshipping, I was told that the Bible says you’re not to have “these types” of people in your company. BUT the Bible talks MORE about “Unconditional Love” for our children & parents!! Or even maybe even include family members or caregivers. This is the stuff I hate!! Loving your channel more & more. You earned another Subscriber #40,567 right here 🤗!! 💟
Yea a lot of people in the organization don't know u can still have normal family relationships even when DFed I'm glad my parents aren't like that with shunning
Regarding the second video, although I didn’t go to college, I went right to work full time and never stopped. I now have a very good job which allowed me to walk away from a marriage where I wasn’t happy. Biggest argument I had with my mom was after she convinced me to go to a convention a few years ago and it was about a mom who got her real estate license and became successful. They portrayed her in such a bad light just because she was making a little money and treating herself to nice things. Apparently you just need to clean toilets at bethel, gain no real skills and pioneer all your life? 🤷🏻♀️
@@ranmore30 Well... we ARE talking about him. It makes me.. pay attention to him more, to see how he'll over enunciate? Which really makes the insanity and begging for money (had no idea he'd actually bloody ask for money AFTER saying they'd never ask for money) all the more... prominent to hear.
Hello, Lloyd, another great video! You say your optimism was misplaced but I don't think you realise how many people you've helped these past four years regain their lives, their families, friends, their freedom and peace of mind. I, for one, will be forever grateful to you, for having navigated me through this web of deception, manipulation, and mind control ...if it hadn't been for you and others like you, to a lesser extent, I'd be imprisioned in this dangerous cult along with my young son and daughter.
Lloyd, I'm still watching but I have to point out that Lett didn't waste his life. He's a wealthy leader of a cult and worshipped around the world. It's just he leaves that detail out when he shares his life story.
@@sully-coco lol. Makes me think of what Creed from The Office said about cults. Sad part is for most of us r&f jws life is pretty miserable. I know it was for me...
Yes, we never would ask for money but how bout your valuable things? We will be so glad to take that off your hands. I am saying that while doing my impression of Steve Lett. Geeze, I crack myself up! He is so easy to impersonate! Hey, Christopher Walken as a jw. That would be fun to do!
@@sully-coco - What's with all the references to window cleaners I've seen these days? When I was in (over 30 years ago) the highest pinnacle of employment for JW's (elders especially) was to be a janitor. Has that gone out of fashion?
Thanks for all of your work. Love it man!! I am sure you could have made the worst 20 or 200 for that matter, when dealing with this material. Its just never seems to end. I relate to all of your videos. After almost 40 years, their policies still hurt and enrage me. They have a lot to answer for. Keep it up Llyod, you are doing great work. As always, be well.
Just wanted to say thank you for your videos and information, you are awesome. Listening to your informational video has cleared any doubts that I've had for years, even as a child being raised as one of Jehovah's Witnesses, it just didn't seam right, I feel bad for my family because they still are in it and can't see the really truth about that organization. Thanks again.
I'm struggling to listen to the GB BS, it's making me so angry. They absolutely DISGUST me! Lloyd, I don't know how you keep your sanity going through their slurry 😵 Take care and thank you.
Since I was 12-13, I started to distance myself from the JW The biggest thing that didn't sound right was that wives had to be submissives towards their husband and that women were put 1 step behind men It never sounded right to me I'm now almost 17 I'm lucky my family weren't hardcore JWs My grandparents would still dislike me for my sexuality but I'm never going to tell them since it's not important I actually have freedom compared to some poor kids stuck in their JW family You and Telltale helped me to know more about this.. cult I was pretty neutral when I "left" but because of you two I can tell people how dangerous this cult is and to never get into it
The governing body does not have controls, but it is Jehovah we should server not man who say the priest is right for raping the boys why are you not complaining about that jw according to you is a cult ,then what is the Jewish faith ,what is the Catholic faith, the baptize faith, and all the others religion Tell me i want to know, all thease have men and woman who go to war against their brother of the same faith . The witness is the only one that refuse to take up arms So this cult have a conscious The day is drawing when we will all see for our self The great day of Jehovah is near
I had no idea what JW was about (well, vaguely) until the last couple of decades. However, as a teenager in the 60's, I began to read the bible - not just what was suggested in (baptist) church - but from front to back. The description of the relationship between men and women, the blaming of woman (Eve) for the downfall of "man," the rules of how to treat women and pass them from father to husband as property and barely considered as even second-class humans, made me so disgusted it laid the foundation for my eventually turn to atheism. I am so glad I didn't waste my life believing this disgusting bull****.
Steven Lett resisted peer pressure to go to university?!! Some of his peers must have had a good sense of humour. He does come across as,.. how can I phrase it?..' special'
Thank you. This list is amazing. This manipulation is off the rails. I left years ago but still worry about my family who are still in. This is what happen when an organization rewards uneducatation.
I think we should call this 'the shit list'. Just horrendous. So much Stephen 'sausage hands' lett! I was waiting for the masturbation one to come up, but then I remembered that was leaked. I love the rebuttal videos, I can only imagine the hours of work you put into each one with all the research needed, I am very thankful that you do. I don't think there is another activist that is doing the leg work as diligently as you, with very little bias. No shouting and screaming or antics just well researched, eloquent, and salient points to get you thinking. Keep up the good work :)
These are the reasons why I love Lloyd so much. He's helped me with my anger towards my family, and I'm very lucky to have a bit of one of my interviews on one of his episodes!
It’s so much harder to put up these arguments in a foreign language JW community. Most halls are not as strict as they “technically” should. And really only hold up when the C.O. Visit comes around. I call those the regional managers. Elders are just managers. Hehe
Re. “The Two Witness Rule” ... Does that imply a rape or molestation did not occur if two other observers were not present during the crime and willing to testify? (Watch time marker 34:47).
I'm not sure how it was at anyone else's congregation but I remember when I was a teen, our congregation was struggling with money and they made each publisher and pioneer who was over 18 to "donate" a set amount each month. My mom was so upset because we were barely making ends meet but she still was forced to "donate". I remember some brothers and sisters were "donating" big amounts. It was so frustrating because it felt like a scam. Like you're not soliciting money but you're signing up people who are financially struggling to give you the money that they do not have because they can't handle their expenses. Again, so glad I'm outta there.
But it would take FOREVER to paint the Kingdom Hall! None of the publishers would be able to go out in service. Jehovah would be sad..... Satan would be happy that the stupid elders were dumb and bought 2 inch paint brushes. What a waste of money.
I almost didn't watch this video cause its just a collection of previously aired material. But MAN am I glad I did! These are some of the most awesome, terrible, cringeworthy, clips I could imagine. Hilarious and terrible to watch! Ultimately, I'm glad they come out with such terrible propaganda. Lots of this would be absolutely repulsive to anyone who isn't already indoctrinated, and it might even be bad enough to raise a red flag in the minds of a few believing JWs!
John Cedars, PLEASE HELP ME! unfortunately I have family that have been in this horrendous sect for over 20 years. They are always attacking my Catholic Christian faith and always accuse me of honoring our country and that witnesses do not participate in wars. They say we would participate in wars and that we would pick up arms against one another and that they as witnesses do not. How can I give them a good rebuttal? And also, is it TRUE that once a practicing jehovah's witness passes away the elders SECRETLY have a Masonic worship and offering of the dead congregant at 3am? An acquaintance who was a Mason told me about this horrible thing. Please advise
Stripping away another person's humanity and paternal feelings for a loved one for supposedly breaking some Biblical command sounds like something the devil,if he exists,would think up and be behind. As usual Lloyd,you cover topics of interest that should get both religious and non- religious persons thinking about. You are one of the best at what you do!
The rules for disassociated people changed in 1981 because the then Governing Body were looking for a reason to disfellowship Ray Franz... and they did.
@@annettecowles4761 I believe so. I just finished watching the most eye opening yt video on the subject. It's interesting and intense. "X Factor winner reveals world's secret religion."
Your #1 video pick was devastating. How many children have been shunned by their families and congregations, only to end up committing suicide? Senseless evil destroying lives and families.
Lloyd, I appreciate your work on this channel. I grew up as a Witness and have been thinking about my experiences a lot (been out of the congregation for 20~ years). Watching the videos on your channel has been cathartic for me. Thank you very much.
That was hard to watch. Just awful. I cannot imagine sitting in an audience watching any of this tripe and thinking "yes yes...that makes sense". But my family and friends still do. It makes me so sad.
Just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them over to a disapproved mental state, to
do the things not fitting. And they were filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, and badness, being full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, and malice, -Romans 1:28
William J
Same
Like scientology creepy.
I'm not done watching, but Lord, please, the birthday clip is so unbelievable! How can anyone buy into this, they aren't even pointing to a bible verse that forbids birthdays, how twisted and abhorrent to aim at a child's childhood. I've asked my sister about this many times, she never has a good answer, but then again, she's mentally unstable as it is. As a matter of fact, 2 days ago, she got in my face, screamed I was Satan, punched and kicked the storm door and all because I asked her not to go wake up my 89 year old mom who is gravely ill. I thank my lucky stars every day that at 13, when a JW tried to turn me, I was able to read through the pamphlets and see the hypocrisy being spewed This is nothing more then a cult, scary really.
Jehovah can fix your screen door. He does not have Jesus do that kind of work anymore. Jehovah can fix anything. He is a very handy God to have in your tool box. If you don't have a tool box he can stay in your garage. When you need something done just pray to him. He will fix it up for you. "G.T.W.O.M.S"!
Benjamin Falzon there's a lot more that deeply concerns me, when I wrote the comment that was what was on my mind.
Captain Alan I'm sure that God could keep busy with much better things then my screen door. I'd rather he/she stop war, disease and starvation for starters.
@@remedy9648 Stopping war, crime, hunger, disease and things like that would cut into the profits being made. That in turn would cut the contributions being made to JW.BORG. Therefore fixing screen doors , finding roof leaks and bypassing alarm clocks is what is being focused on now. You can find the Broadcast videos that illustrate the proper kinds of things to pray for. It's very simple when you pray to find a roof leak; according to the video God will answer that prayer. It's all in the videos. I'm not kidding. JW BROADCASTING really had a dumb ass that joined the religion because he prayed over a leaking roof. Jehovah found that leak and he joined up. Save us all from such stupid asses. "G.T.W.O.M.S"!
@@xxxxyz854 GTWOMS? What does that mean?
I've surrendered my future to watchtower. And although I've been free from them for 18 years, I've never recovered it. They robbed me of so much potential. I've accomplished so much since my exodus, but I can't help but think of where and who I'd be if they hadn't controlled my young life. I feel cheated. I feel like they stole from me and it really hurts.
That's exactly how I feel. Only thing I can do now is try and give my children every opportunity to succeed and have a better childhood then I had.
I hope you gave your life to Jesus Christ. He alone can heal you of what that cult does to people.
@@TheJiminiflix Actually atheism is a pretty fantastic cure as well.
@@cheekygingerdoesstuff7223 It's good, better than jw, but wouldn't say it "fantastic".
As a former atheist, I would say a sense of emptiness the atheism gives you in the end of the day, isn't a fantastic situation in deed. Anyway everyone rest with fis needs. I don't think that everything around us is just a zero fantasy with no inner meaning.
Its a matter of the need to researching about the world and it's meaning.
@God so loved the world. I don't know if you're a troll or not, but no. I took my life back because it is mine. It doesn't belong to any other individual, organization, or mythological diety.
The child in class not signing a birthday card was triggering for me as a "walk-in" JW as a 20-year old adult in 1992. Shortly thereafter I took a "stand" on Christmas and when my Father was sending out Christmas cards to family and friends also signing it with my name on it and I insisted not participating, he literally cut out my name that he had signed on the card and mailed out the cards with the cutout. My Father was so livid about me simply not wanting to acknowledge others to have a nice holiday.
In December of 2016 when I was still doing "Cart Work" and asleep with the exception of the growing child abuse awareness problem. So I asked a local elder I was doing cart work with how we should deal with Christmas greetings as people were walking by saying "Merry Christmas". This guy was a missionary in Zimbabwe for 12 years and is a 54-year-old elder now here in Wisconsin and he tells me "Dave, it's just a greeting" after I explained to him in my Chicago JW congregation it was treated as though saying "Merry Christmas" was a Judicial Committee offense worthy of Reproof or disfellowship for "going along with paganism". Ridiculous. Glad I am wide awake here two years later no longer wasting time or wasting my life at a cart promoting watchtower propaganda!
Jehovah would be sad... And Satan would be made very happy. He's killing me!
@nuova speranza Questo è un canale inglese, diretto sopratutto agli States... o impari inglese, o niente.
He sounds like he's talking to a classroom full of children.
Adam Heckathorn God needs to be happy.. He is at our mercy 😈
But I Want to Make Satan Happy XD
@@joools1953 He is, believe me..
Didnt know that child abuse lawsuit payouts were categorized as " theocratic expenditures".
EWW
I disassociated myself because of the nightmares.... not of Armageddon.... but the thought of living forever on paradise earth with my mother in law...... no thanks
Pit Bull ,that's hilarious! You made my day!
Howard fowler ...... I’m glad Howard I have a million of them lol .....
If you can get your PitBull to protect you from Jehovah's Witnesses and your mother in law you'll have some reinforced insulation against cult mind control and undue influence.🐕
Honest Conscience Dave..... lol yes
My mother inlaw is dead. I'm not ever wanting to see her again. OMG she was a terrible woman. She once belittled me for wanting to return a big box of food that a woman left after moving out of the house I had just purchased from her. She had three small children and had sold the house to me because she had lost her husband. My mother inlaw called me a fool for calling her to tell her she left the packed box full of groceries. The people in her congregation thought she was such a nice person. If only they had known her for what she was.
I'm no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I haven't joined any religious group. I'm free of all of that stuff and I'm glad to know I'm not obligated to be stuck with them (JWs) for eternity. All I know is I'm free and I'm happy. I've never looked back. I'm living the rest of my life with a few goals to look forward to. I'm traveling, setting my life in order for retirement. I'm a little late on that, but I like the challenge of accomplishment. It feels good to have a say so in my own life.
I just “woke up” today. From your videos. I was raised in the truth my whole life and stopped going to meetings a little over a year ago and have been on a journey and quest to find both the truth and myself. This is nauseating and relieving and I am overwhelmed but would welcome any advice, insight, or comfort.
I hope your doing well, an congrats on getting out of this controlling cult.. ❤️ We have a huge family here an several groups on Facebook, were all here for you..
Samantha Adams wow I don’t even remember writing that! I am in such a good place and so genuinely happy now I’m my life. Love my ex jw community and thank you for reaching out!!! Hope you’re doing well :)
My waking up was more of a gradual process.. i had decided i didn't believe a lot of WT's teachings, but ran across Lloyd's videos, found out so much more!
I hope you are ok & didn't get sucked back in.
There are lots of Facebook groups for exJWs & the exJW reddit group. All are eye opening. But many of us are badly damaged by Watchtower's teachings & it takes a long time & a lot of work to overcome it. Working with a therapist that is knowledgeable of cults or groups of undue influence might help.
Hope you're doing well 👍🏻
Go to therapy! Make new friends.
It's strange, growing up as a JW I had no idea who the men behind the curtain were. They were kind of mysterious and holy. Now they're in all these videos and highly visible, I can see they're just blokes who don't seem particularly bright, and have lead very insulated lives. I don't know how anybody can watch this stuff and not see past them (especially Lett and Morris).
holnrew kinda like the great and might OZ. Showing themselves has pulled back the curtain and will help others walk away.
People want to be told how to think, what to think and how to behave. Thinking for yourself would get you kicked out of this cult.
Same thoughts here. I wonder if my dad would have gone along with my mom if he'd seen what buffoons he was dieing for.
You're right. So much for being 'discreet'! Everyone thinks it's great and give preferential treatment to them. They're just men!
This! Sooo much.
I remember that once in my congreation (I was 6 years old or less) this guy took a banana, he peeled it a little and started carving it with a small fork to illustrate how much damage Satan can do if we open him a little slot. He made it while he was giving his talk. Then, by the end of his speech, he peeled the whole banana, it broked and fell to the floor. Hence, you will be broken, eaten, destroyed by Satan from the inside to the outside little by little.
Everyone clapped at him and some even stood up. I laughed so hard to the whole thing...and of course, as you can imagine...I got "disciplined" when I got home. My dad hit me with his leather belt specially hanged for "discipline" at our house.
After that, we went on the haunting of Satan´s small fork of influence at home. Super Mario Bross 3 went to garbage as result, since all the kings at the end of the game stages were turned to insects or animals by magic, and Mario´s task was to find a magic wand to undo the spell. We used to play it with dad when we got the Nintendo console (as a present from grandpa, of course, a present out of any wordly celebrations). It really got us together. I can picture dad, my brother and I playing up to very late at nights when we were on vacation time, laughing and passing the controller by turns, screaming when we were finally able to pass a difficult zone or when we discovered a trick. My mom was not very good at playing, but she was there screaming with us as well, and of course, she will suddenly disconnect the console when she thought it was enough, like a normal mom would. Now it had to be thrown away because...yeah...Satan's little poison was preventing my dad to get a job that can provide for us, we were broke because of a game...sure...My parents were fighting all the time because of it too, not because they only knew each other for like three months before my mom got accidentaly pregnant with me, and they didn`t plan to have my brother so soon either. We didn´t have a decent house to live, we were all crowded in this little room, with mould in the kitchen, and a shared bathroom which shower wasn't allowed to be used on Sundays (because it was meeting day and no one should do other than study Watchtower magazine and prepare comments for the service. It was not allowed to wash clothes on the yard either), in this old ugly house full of old people that used to throw their feces to the careless garden because they were so old and lonely that they didn't even realize what they were doing anymore (the landlord was a witness, of course, renting to other faith siblings), forced to play with the only Jehova´s witness kid around, which was a spoiled and unbearable boy that broke the few toys we could afford...ALL OF THIS WAS A RESULT OF MAGIC SATAN`S GAME!
My father said he was as sad as us...but...this game was "grieving the spirit of god" from our lives...so we had to be good witness and make Jehova happy, 'cause, who wants to make him sad, right? It went away. I can remember my father´s face that moment, like if he was a martyr dying for Jehova...
This triggers me so bad...I can't hold this feelings, really.
Not to mention the "Don't be sad we kicked grandma out of the house because she dared to bring a birthday cake for you, we can have a party any day with no reason at all...this makes Jehova happy, you don't need a special day, your not special or worth of attention more than our god, and your grandma is a catholic bad association bicth,". The: "What would happen if Armaggedon comes and you're at the university" or the "You cannot be friends with that girl your age that pretends to teach you how to play the piano, because she's wordly. You are only allowed to associate with this teen girl that gives you a biblle study and is the elder's daughter. It doesn't matter that she goes to the bathroom with her wordly boyfriend to pass a good half an hour there. She says you can play with her dolls, use her perfumes and you're not forced to read that boring fucsia cover book talking about Jesus as long as you don't say anything".
True was that grandma payed for our rent at least 11 of the 12 months of the year, because most of the jobs my dad was offered as a man with no university education were not appropiate for a christian, and mom could not get a job cause...she had to be under her husband authority. My neighboor was a nice well behaved girl who had no brothers and sisters and so no other kids to play, so she asked me if I could be her friend in exchange of piano lessons. The elder's daughter got pregnant at 17, her father was disfellowshipped because of his bad attitude, then he divorced her wife and married a girl 20 years younger. I left the organization when I was 14, I went to unversity later, got my diploma, and when I was able to understand my brainwashed condition, I realized that a Satan's magic game brought our family together, while the Jehova's true god sick organization tore us apart with its banana's and bread's illustrations.
My parents are divorced these days, in case you were wondering. My mom migrated to work as a maid to Spain because we had no food or place to live, we kids were all grown and grandma was too old to keep providing for us. My dad reacted by becoming an alcoholic depressed man. He attempted suicide twice, and when we asked why he made such thing, he said that since he lost his wife, his family, he wasn't a man enough to please god, and that he didn't deserve god's mercy anymore...he said he was going to be destroyed at Armaggedon and never resurrected anyway, so he was just speeding up the process.
Seriously...
Fuck this Watchtower bullshit!
I'm a poisoned bread...
LOL!
"I am poisoned bread", that was the most heart wrenching thing I have read in a long time.
Its sickening what this organization does to the minds of fully capable people. "Breaking them" and turning them into people completely reliant on Watchtower.
I grew up in a home with an Elder Father and Pioneer mother, so I am well aware of the throwing away of games and toys that "grieve the spirit".
The fact that your family situation was deteriorating and there was no solace in the congregation, says alot about "The Truth".
I just dont get how anyone could read your story, see the pain and just "Blame Satan". I am so sorry...
Wow! Elder and pioneer parents...
I can imagine your situation!
Thank you for your word and time to read me.
I’m so sorry you had to grow up in that bullshit. It’s much more fun over here being a piece of tasty poisoned bread, mate!!! Lol
Thank you for your comment. It touched my heart. I'm currently a jw, but I'm eager to expose what I've seen. This is sick!
Great video. There is something ‘off’ about the way that JW presenter talks. He speaks in such an... odd... broken up... weirdly toned... way... and I cannot... figure out... why....
I think it's because the governing body......believing that they are anointed......and partake at the Memorial......are all mentally ill (according to JW logic).
It is almost sing songy
he is clearly a pod person
I personally think he is influenced by demons.
He’s a kook.
we appreciate after all this time you regularly keeping up with all this and releasing information when someone needs to, keep up the good work please
I want to say thank you for your videos. I’m 52 and was brought up as a witness from the age of about 7. I’ve been out about 7 years now but had always struggled to really believe when I was in. I went to the elders many times with my doubts. However, despite that I’ve found it almost impossible to free my brain. Currently binge watching your videos and reading everything I can get my hands on. Finished The Reluctant Apostate today, great book! Starting Crisis of Conscience for the second time. I feel I can now say I was brainwashed. It’s scary what this self perpetuating religion is doing to families. Mine has been shattered.
Jo Pye congrats on your new found freedom! It takes a strong person to pull away from this type of brainwashing cult, especially one that trains you to believe that disbelieving them is equivalent to turning on your higher power. 💜💜💜
My emergence from Catholicism took 20 years. I never believed in gods but I was afraid of dying.
At 70 I am no longer afraid of threats of damnation from religious bullies.
Jo Pye: sister, you and I are exactly the same age. The difference is that I was raised a JW but I was a natural rebel. That helped to free me early. Even though I was going to the meetings and pretending to adhere to the religion, I was as worldly as the next girl on the college campus. I was able to lead the double life of role-playing just to please my mom and get my education! The moment I got a job, freedom and independent I left and never looked back. I would never put my kids through this nightmare! I love my mom but she was uneducated and vulnerable!
Morris: "The better the university the greater the danger." It truly is some sort of Bizarro world the Witnesses inhabit.
So they must not want doctors to treat them? Or engineers to build their buildings?
I was a JW for 30+ yrs. The May 2015 'doing the math' episode was the final straw.
Well done!
My question was, why don't they rely on Jehovah.
Better late than never ,we were over 50 years
Everything else leave it in Jehovah's hands. BUT, money. Nope. Like all religions in Babylon the Great, we need money. God cannot make money. God is limited.
@@michaelandrew3397 I was 57jaers my husband 50 jaers
I am so very grateful that I escaped from that garbage. Freedom is my paradise.
I don't believe for one second that the organization is in denial. They are more concerned about their reputation. They could care less about the child that went through a horrific experience. They are allowing sexual sexual abuse to occur in their Kingdom Halls they just cover it up.
The last clip concerning shunning is absolutely deplorable. Parents cutting off their children is unacceptable. To me this demonstrates that Jehovah Witnesses are not loving kind Christian people.
@@0nawa164 I am very sorry your parents cut you off at 18 . That breaks my heart . I hope your parents realize that was very harmful to you . They need to shoe you how much they love you and say sorry . To cut your child off is absolutely disgusting . Not a good way to show GOD'S love . I have major issues with JWOrganization . It is a very destructive cult . GOD BLESD YOU
Gary "Bro"(not) stands up there staunchly and proudly defending this 2 witness rule foolishness. And, as Lloyd points out at 37:50, this is in reference to child molestation within the WhOrg. How these fools can be this dumb is beyond comprehension. Especially after how such a perspective was completely demolished by the ARC and Angus Stewart; using Scripture no less! So if anyone follows these morons just remember they have a habit of pissing into the wind, they never seem to learn. These are your "spiritual guides"!
I’m literally on tears..... just realizing what they did to me... I’m 60 years old and my life was ruined by them... was not able to even finish my elementary school ... therefore I couldn’t offer my kids a better lifestyle... :(
I am sorry. But God world is true. People the are not tell the truth. Pray to God to forgive them and keep u in the truth from the bibel. Ex 20:8-11
This the truth from God. Not JW u can pray with your family members God is there for you. God bless u my sister of Brother. Do u see now what happens. God is God. Hi give them time to make a change but. There was still not tell people the truth. JW is Lie Iam from Angola. ❤❤❤❤👋🏿
Wow! I can't believe these are even real. Absolutely despicable!
I really hope JW's "stumble" upon this video. I would think this video alone, would have to wake them up.
I love the double entendre of the word "stumble"! Haha
I believe that God brings couples together and no one is to tear them apart. God sends them children and “before you were I knew him” and the dynamics of a family are planned by God. Even horrible fathers or husbands are given to you and kids die to teach and prepare you for your future but the society shunning is evil.
I was born and raised JW. I started questioning them at 7. When I was 9 I asked if orphans and children who died if they would go to paradise they told me that they wouldn't go because their parents were not jw. They told my parents that I wasn't a good child or JW because I read books that I wasn't supposed too. I was never baptized and I left the church as soon as I could.
The shunning is the reason I even began looking at apostate material (it's how I found your channel). After I got over the initial fear of lightning bolts, I learned so many other things that have made it clear that I will never return to them. I was a witness for over 40 years.
That's all it takes. Just open the door a crack and take a peek at the rest of the world outside the cult.
I understand you very well. I am Polish and I write to you from Poland. Please forgive me, but I do not know English well and I use an online translator. I was Jehovah's witness for 35 years. My mother was about 15 years old. I am doubly excluded exjw. This inhuman organization destroyed my family when I was young, and now that I'm old. My marriage is in disarray. My wife is a constant pioneer but has not lived with me for several months. Because I am a renegade for her. I'm interested in exJw channels in other countries, because what this organization is doing with honest and God-fearing people, in the world, cries out for vengeance to Christ the Lord! All religious systems are the property of Satan the Devil and his bunch of malicious demons. Beech Forest is my nickname. Best regards
@@lasbukowy I feel for you. Sorry for the loss of your family to this ungodly Organisation
@@dantoinettetaylor1663 From the heart thank you, for compassion and understanding.
Same here ,sometimes I go the meetings and I feel sorry for the brothers that still preaching for them . Waste of time’, but kingdoms hall are empty now
Thank you so much for this video! I'm floored by what I just watched! These men are wolves in sheep's clothing. I'm sharing your videos with all of the EXJWs in my family! My father is the only one who hasn't snapped out of the extreme mind control that he's under. Your videos are helping me learn how to get inside my dad's head and understand what is going on in there! Thank you 🙏🏻 ❤️
Stevens voice just does my head in. It is so condescending like he is talking to a 2 year old. Great top 10
The Island Workshop his parents were both deaf, that’s why he talks like that lol
What a wierdo. And people really listen to this guy!!!
It’s brilliant a way of teaching humility all according to God‘s word the Bible !
Therefore, whoever will humble himself like this young child is the one who is the greatest in the Kingdom of the heavens;
Matthew 18:4
The Island Workshop Candice V
His voice …. is no t …..condescending.....isn't it?
this is so creepy
Great work Lloyd! Keep up the good work!
While you may personally feel that your first and original rebuttal was a tad optimistic, let me reiterate the fact that your brand of activism helps so many out there-myself included. Thank you for that. Let the positive far outweigh any perceived negative!
I noticed that when Stephen Lett presents he shakes his head to indicate "no" as he makes statements, such as "I have no regrets becoming a pioneer at 17."
What a bunch of crazy, manipulative, psychotic, narcissists 😒. Thank you for your time and effort in putting this together.
They aren't really narcissistic in person they've just been drinking the Kool aid longer than all of us and it shows
Anyone else used to watch these videos late at night, looking around at the shadows, scared you were inviting the demons in?? 😆
I was never a JW so I can't relate in that area, but I know the feeling you're describing. I was an evangelical/pentecostal, and demons were very real to me. Every now and then it still frightens me and I feel so silly for being scared.
Yes actually lol
Steven Lett is a human cartoon 😂 He cracks me up, pure comedy!
These people are the best they can get to be Governing Body. None have more than grade 8 education? Really? And all are part of the anointed? This is the best we get?
Can't believe he's real!!!
The Devil will be very happy! He really is with his organization and it’s control and lack of thinking of members.
@@donsnider4607 LOL, when the GB (Gone Blind) made their debut with the first broadcast of the "annual meeting" I was like you have to be kidding! These are the guys running things? I began to realize I was in a 3 ring circus. Watching the ARC hearings thereafter sealed it for me.
@@donsnider4607 To me, this is what every single organization on Earth would look like if whackjobs were allowed to flourish and not have real competence and competition to push them tf out.
Excellent list bro and I definitely agree with your choice for number one. Thanks for this video!
They never talk about Jesus, do they? It's always Jehovah vs. satan. "Jehovah has paid high price for us"-don't they mean Jesus? There's nothing christian about that cult.
TheTadziofan ya they do talk about Jehovah vs satan but i used to be one and they also talk about Jesus a lot. Though i do agree its a cult.
They talk about Jesus as little as possible. Then when they do have to mention him it’s just that he was a good example. Muslims think Jesus was a good example. That’s not Christianity
Jesus would never have shunned family in the way jws do
@@helenablack746 Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple"
TheTadziofan smoke DMT and everything will make sense.
Bravo Lloyd. You smashed it again. I can't get enough of your videos, always balanced, full of sound reason and critical thinking. Thank you.
I feel like that poison was just balsamic vinegar which looks delicious on that bread
Calumniation that video made me paranoid afterwards. I was 16. What a time to be alive. 😢
Thats what I was thinking lol. They probably had some pasta in the back and were gonna eat it after lol.
Love me some poison 😋
😂
To me it looked like chocolate syrup that belongs on ice cream.
I am no longer a jw at the age of 15. This is the only JW broadcasting related video i have ever been happy to watch.
So funny when he pulled out that giant glass buttplug and said it was useless!
Now I can't get that out of my mind.
Damn you! Why did you have to make me think that?
fantastic
My mind went in the same direction when i saw it....I just couldnt pinpoint it...Thanks...Now I can see it clearly..
Tony Morris was wondering where that plug disappeared to!
I was the unbelieving mate. My EX wife would do whatever they asked of her. It caused a lot of problems in our home due to her wanting to show she was a spiritual sister. I’m so glad that NIGHTMARE is over. One great thing that happened, I was able to take my daughters blindfolds off so they could see the REAL truth.
Thank you Lloyd. Yes, even older ones are affected by this horror and fear. My 90 year old mother has dementia, and cries constantly, because she’s in fear of Armageddon. It just sickens me.
My mum is 83 and I have been wondering how she will fare in the coming years .
My mom is 94 and watching what she’s going through is horrible, and the witnesses aren’t there for her but her worldly daughter that was a disappointment to her mother is . 😕
@@gwaldie4076 that's what I think will happen here 2 worldly daughters.
Granvela Waldie I’m so sorry, it’s really sad. My mom is 3 hours away, where my older sister lives, and and I had to fight to see her, she wouldn’t have shunned me when she was alert, and doesn’t now, but my siblings do, and we’ve just faded. They actually started when my husband resigned as an elder. She does get visitors from the pioneers, but as someone who pioneered for over 20 years, I know it’s just another way to get their time in. It’s really so sad.
Can you pretend for her that she's in paradise?
I knew which one would be #1. And being shunned myself by my parents and brother, it just made me cry :(
I hope you are healing 💟
@@gala_pi I am. One step at a time :)
Thanks for your dedication to this message Lloyd. I was born and raised, but left as a teen after I witnessed a brutal beating of my friend, by his father after we missed a meeting one Sunday morning. I reported it to the elders where it was promptly swept under the rug. Cheers mate!
@Vladimir Putin, back at you! Lol
Same in my family!
Same in my family!
Holy crap fr??
Lloyd - your selection of the worst videos repeatedly astonishes and is the stuff of great hilarity. So we have a young JW-raised kid pressured to sign a birthday card for a kid who has cancer - and if he signs, it’s tantamount to worshipping the golden calf condemned in Scripture. Stupendously baseless and daft comparison. That this goes down so seriously with JWs as spiritual food at the proper time - or at least those who bother to watch - is evidence of dulled-down brains. You’re right- the addition of the JW-raised kid preaching to the kid with cancer is unspeakably offensive. Where were the boy’s parents? Did they know the kid visiting their son was preaching to him? Oh they keep it lovey-doveyvabout ”paradise” but how would JW parents react if their son had cancer and one of his school mates sneakily started to preach his religion to the JW-raised kid? Would they be okay about it?
Jeasus this is some quality cringe
Yes, I believe if there was such thing as, death by cringe’ , we would have many fatalities!
Getting a higher education will certainly free you from mental imprisonment. When you acquire a higher education, opportunities are right there waiting for you. Free yourself from this nightmare of lesser education, and go to awesome discoveries when you mentally travel towards higher education. Once you reached your goal, then you could look back and see how wrong they were in JWs advice and belief. Good luck in your journey. Unlimited opportunities awaits you!!!
The glass smashing still makes me laugh, every time i see it.
He's having a tizzy, like a mini Yaweh, because let's face it, the god of the Bible is a genocidal drama queen.
When I first saw that it sent shivers down my spine because I knew that was how the gb really felt about people. The gb and many other JW's are very hateful wolves in sleeps clothing.
The glass smashing made me instantly think of the movie Mosquito Coast. If anyone has seen it you'll know what I mean.
@@jimbobaggans1564 yes!
Jehovah : "Bye, Felicia!"
Abigail Parker..you got that right..it seems like the God of the old testament is a
bi polar serial killer..just sayin
I've never been involved with the JWs so I'm just speaking as an outsider, but Stephen Lett is one of the creepiest people I've ever seen. He's like a pod person mixed with Norman Bates.
"We may feel a little shy to talk about the financial needs of the organization... we in no way want to be categorized with other organizations that coherence supporters..."
So let's talk about those 2" paint brushes.
I was raised as a JW for the first 22 years of my life. Mostly the 60"s thru 80's and SHUNNING has always been my experience in the Kingdom Hall for any disfellowshipped person. I'm not sure where the speakers date of this practice beginning in 1981 or 1984 came from?
It was always the a form of punishment in any congregations I had attended and continues to this day.
I left the religion when I was 22, never looking back. JW's is just another CULT for men who get off on POWER and self righteousness.
I can see why you choose #1. After personally experiencing shunning at it's worst (left to fend for myself and my two children during 2 hurricanes Ike and Rita). My kids and I learned very quickly how conditional jw love really is! Thank you so much!
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Omg that's insane. Your family didn't help you at all?
It’s so despicable to go with a religion that dwells with more on shunning and less with unconditional love with one another, especially to their own family. The emphasis is more of separation and less on unity and togetherness. After all , an unconditional love ❤️ should always prevail. This belief of shunning is producing a lot of broken families. It’s selfish and cruel. What kind of paradise where you be?
This is so cringe worthy.
My toes were curling.
Letts tone and content is not out of place when speaking to infants. We had an elder who's talks were a mirror image of this routine. I had to go to the loo to escape.
Oh my God. I’ve never seen anything like that first one before. That is scary. Edit: After watching al of these I can say that the message is: Give us your money, don’t think for yourself, and don’t talk to anyone outside the cult.
Good Grief! I can't even believe this is real. It's like a SNL skit.
If only it was that harmless...
On the subject of disfellowshipping, I was told that the Bible says you’re not to have “these types” of people in your company. BUT the Bible talks MORE about “Unconditional Love” for our children & parents!! Or even maybe even include family members or caregivers. This is the stuff I hate!! Loving your channel more & more. You earned another Subscriber #40,567 right here 🤗!! 💟
Yea a lot of people in the organization don't know u can still have normal family relationships even when DFed I'm glad my parents aren't like that with shunning
The video clips made me nauseous. Cruel mind games and deception. I hope your rebuttal helps more JWs wake up. My family included. Good work!
I could watch Stephen Lett for hours. He has the strangest affect I have ever seen. It’s mesmerizing.
A whole hour!!! I’m settling in!
Unbelievable. Thank you for putting this out there. My love goes out to everyone who left the congregation or anyone who is struggling to do so ❤
The only thing funnier than watching Steven Lett speak is watching him speak with the sound out of sync !
John, keep up the good work. These videos are so helpful in dealing with and understanding JW's. Thank you💜🙏🏻💜
I agree! And also helpful as a kind of therapy for those of us who were not able to deal with the pain and indoctrination before.
In the first clip, the moral of the story here is that if someone ask you to do something and it doesn't make any sense, just do it anyways.
Just blindly follow this clap trap bullshit , without ever questioning a thing and give us your money!
That “more money going out than coming in” quote gives me hope that this organization will meet its downfall in our lifetimes
Me too!!!
"Ha ha ha! Chaos and discord! Another unpainted kingdom hall!" - Satan
lol....
Realguy McCoolname 😂😂😂
Regarding the second video, although I didn’t go to college, I went right to work full time and never stopped. I now have a very good job which allowed me to walk away from a marriage where I wasn’t happy. Biggest argument I had with my mom was after she convinced me to go to a convention a few years ago and it was about a mom who got her real estate license and became successful. They portrayed her in such a bad light just because she was making a little money and treating herself to nice things. Apparently you just need to clean toilets at bethel, gain no real skills and pioneer all your life? 🤷🏻♀️
Steven Lett always sounds so... weird. Like, it must take effort to speak like that. XD
Erin Parrott like a creepy nursery school teacher. He talks to everyone like they’re dumb.
@@ktm2079 It does sound like he's talking to me like I'm a friggin' idiot.
I was just thinking that. It must be deliberate... but why?!?
@@ranmore30 Well... we ARE talking about him. It makes me.. pay attention to him more, to see how he'll over enunciate? Which really makes the insanity and begging for money (had no idea he'd actually bloody ask for money AFTER saying they'd never ask for money) all the more... prominent to hear.
His mom told him his face would be stuck like that if he didn't stop. He didn't stop. Always listen to you parents.
Lloyd - I absolutely loved this episode - what a cringefest!!!
Hello, Lloyd, another great video! You say your optimism was misplaced but I don't think you realise how many people you've helped these past four years regain their lives, their families, friends, their freedom and peace of mind. I, for one, will be forever grateful to you, for having navigated me through this web of deception, manipulation, and mind control ...if it hadn't been for you and others like you, to a lesser extent, I'd be imprisioned in this dangerous cult along with my young son and daughter.
Thanks Ernesto. I'm so glad I was able to help you in some way! :)
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I'm in the process of leaving now- It hurts knowing I wasted over 30 years of my life on this...
Lloyd, I'm still watching but I have to point out that Lett didn't waste his life. He's a wealthy leader of a cult and worshipped around the world. It's just he leaves that detail out when he shares his life story.
@@sully-coco lol. Makes me think of what Creed from The Office said about cults. Sad part is for most of us r&f jws life is pretty miserable. I know it was for me...
@@lydiacatherine2260
Me too.
Yes, we never would ask for money but how bout your valuable things? We will be so glad to take that off your hands. I am saying that while doing my impression of Steve Lett. Geeze, I crack myself up! He is so easy to impersonate! Hey, Christopher Walken as a jw. That would be fun to do!
@@sully-coco - What's with all the references to window cleaners I've seen these days? When I was in (over 30 years ago) the highest pinnacle of employment for JW's (elders especially) was to be a janitor. Has that gone out of fashion?
I lmao at the painting illustration when he said,"Jehovah would be sad." Lmao
Thanks for all of your work. Love it man!! I am sure you could have made the worst 20 or 200 for that matter, when dealing with this material. Its just never seems to end. I relate to all of your videos. After almost 40 years, their policies still hurt and enrage me. They have a lot to answer for. Keep it up Llyod, you are doing great work. As always, be well.
Just wanted to say thank you for your videos and information, you are awesome. Listening to your informational video has cleared any doubts that I've had for years, even as a child being raised as one of Jehovah's Witnesses, it just didn't seam right, I feel bad for my family because they still are in it and can't see the really truth about that organization. Thanks again.
I'm struggling to listen to the GB BS, it's making me so angry. They absolutely DISGUST me! Lloyd, I don't know how you keep your sanity going through their slurry 😵 Take care and thank you.
I’ve only just woke up slowly for 2 years your videos have help me so much
Since I was 12-13, I started to distance myself from the JW
The biggest thing that didn't sound right was that wives had to be submissives towards their husband and that women were put 1 step behind men
It never sounded right to me
I'm now almost 17
I'm lucky my family weren't hardcore JWs
My grandparents would still dislike me for my sexuality but I'm never going to tell them since it's not important
I actually have freedom compared to some poor kids stuck in their JW family
You and Telltale helped me to know more about this.. cult
I was pretty neutral when I "left" but because of you two I can tell people how dangerous this cult is and to never get into it
I had a nearly identical experience
I am happy for you
The governing body does not have controls, but it is Jehovah we should server not man who say the priest is right for raping the boys why are you not complaining about that jw according to you is a cult ,then what is the Jewish faith ,what is the Catholic faith, the baptize faith, and all the others religion
Tell me i want to know, all thease have men and woman who go to war against their brother of the same faith . The witness is the only one that refuse to take up arms
So this cult have a conscious
The day is drawing when we will all see for our self
The great day of Jehovah is near
@@carolmorton5413 begone
I had no idea what JW was about (well, vaguely) until the last couple of decades. However, as a teenager in the 60's, I began to read the bible - not just what was suggested in (baptist) church - but from front to back. The description of the relationship between men and women, the blaming of woman (Eve) for the downfall of "man," the rules of how to treat women and pass them from father to husband as property and barely considered as even second-class humans, made me so disgusted it laid the foundation for my eventually turn to atheism. I am so glad I didn't waste my life believing this disgusting bull****.
I cannot believe how any sane/intelligent/critical thinking person could fall under this level of control.
Steven Lett resisted peer pressure to go to university?!! Some of his peers must have had a good sense of humour. He does come across as,.. how can I phrase it?..' special'
Paul Buswell new
LOL@@amandahuginkiss4098
Thank you. This list is amazing. This manipulation is off the rails. I left years ago but still worry about my family who are still in. This is what happen when an organization rewards uneducatation.
I think we should call this 'the shit list'. Just horrendous. So much Stephen 'sausage hands' lett! I was waiting for the masturbation one to come up, but then I remembered that was leaked.
I love the rebuttal videos, I can only imagine the hours of work you put into each one with all the research needed, I am very thankful that you do. I don't think there is another activist that is doing the leg work as diligently as you, with very little bias. No shouting and screaming or antics just well researched, eloquent, and salient points to get you thinking. Keep up the good work :)
These are the reasons why I love Lloyd so much. He's helped me with my anger towards my family, and I'm very lucky to have a bit of one of my interviews on one of his episodes!
Like you I really do appreciate the hours Lloyd puts into making these rebuttals so that *I* don't have to watch them
“This bread is ruined” should honestly be a meme
It’s so much harder to put up these arguments in a foreign language JW community. Most halls are not as strict as they “technically” should. And really only hold up when the C.O. Visit comes around. I call those the regional managers. Elders are just managers. Hehe
Re. “The Two Witness Rule” ... Does that imply a rape or molestation did not occur if two other observers were not present during the crime and willing to testify? (Watch time marker 34:47).
Such a great video Lloyd. Triggered me all over the place. Argh... Awful beyond description.
Sdtk
Thats not even poison thats balsamic glaze pass me some tomatoes and mozzarella cheese 😂😂
omg, I didn't expect him to break the glass. That's a bit too much.
So creepy!
Gisselle A
Too intense, severely judgmental, manipulative to make others guilt-ridden and feared into subjection to the core. 👿👹👺😈
Jessie Berle
Yes, you are right!
They are evil.
@@jessieberle3384 It's so wrong
Mazel Tov!
I'm not sure how it was at anyone else's congregation but I remember when I was a teen, our congregation was struggling with money and they made each publisher and pioneer who was over 18 to "donate" a set amount each month. My mom was so upset because we were barely making ends meet but she still was forced to "donate". I remember some brothers and sisters were "donating" big amounts. It was so frustrating because it felt like a scam. Like you're not soliciting money but you're signing up people who are financially struggling to give you the money that they do not have because they can't handle their expenses. Again, so glad I'm outta there.
That shunning video is sick! It’s manipulative, cruel and culty!
But it would take FOREVER to paint the Kingdom Hall! None of the publishers would be able to go out in service. Jehovah would be sad..... Satan would be happy that the stupid elders were dumb and bought 2 inch paint brushes. What a waste of money.
I almost didn't watch this video cause its just a collection of previously aired material. But MAN am I glad I did! These are some of the most awesome, terrible, cringeworthy, clips I could imagine. Hilarious and terrible to watch!
Ultimately, I'm glad they come out with such terrible propaganda. Lots of this would be absolutely repulsive to anyone who isn't already indoctrinated, and it might even be bad enough to raise a red flag in the minds of a few believing JWs!
#10 Steven Lett: "I'm so happy" (shaking head No the whole time) "I have no regrets" (shaking head No the whole time).
The truth will out.
John Cedars, PLEASE HELP ME! unfortunately I have family that have been in this horrendous sect for over 20 years. They are always attacking my Catholic Christian faith and always accuse me of honoring our country and that witnesses do not participate in wars. They say we would participate in wars and that we would pick up arms against one another and that they as witnesses do not. How can I give them a good rebuttal? And also, is it TRUE that once a practicing jehovah's witness passes away the elders SECRETLY have a Masonic worship and offering of the dead congregant at 3am? An acquaintance who was a Mason told me about this horrible thing. Please advise
Watchtower invest in cigarettes, army supplies and weapons. Research for their 503 c tax file and you will surprised
@@MsTaurine thank you! I sure will! I'm going to get these evil bastards
It took me a bit but I finally found it
Stripping away another person's humanity and paternal feelings for a loved one for supposedly breaking some Biblical command sounds like something the devil,if he exists,would think up and be behind. As usual Lloyd,you cover topics of interest that should get both religious and non- religious persons thinking about. You are one of the best at what you do!
The rules for disassociated people changed in 1981 because the then Governing Body were looking for a reason to disfellowship Ray Franz... and they did.
Efrain Rivera Junior Wow! You know I never thought of that; what a well thought out comment
Damn.. so THAT'S why I was d/f'ed for disassociating myself! I hadn't made the connection.
I was waiting for Stephen Lett to bring out some hand puppets. It would have fit his tone perfectly.
Stephen Lett is a simpleton!
I'm sorry but they all are.
Where do they get these comparisons from. I could think of somewhere to put that glass and make good use of it.😂
Looks like Lett is wearing his Masonic pinky ring again 🤤
DogsDroolll TRUTH I think they are all Masons.
Yeah my grandad was a presiding overseer and he had one of those
@@annettecowles4761
I believe so.
I just finished watching the most eye opening yt video on the subject. It's interesting and intense. "X Factor winner reveals world's secret religion."
@@sampeythepirate
Wow, not surprising.
Your #1 video pick was devastating. How many children have been shunned by their families and congregations, only to end up committing suicide? Senseless evil destroying lives and families.
I dunno man, I saw that glass and thought of all sorts of cool crafts i could make with it, seems like Satan knows what's up
Lol me too. Thought of drilling a hole in the middle and make a little fountain of it. I mean respectfully so.
I thought of maybe putting a rose on the bottom to make it look like The Beauty and the Beast’s rose
8:05 I believe you meant “Yong Whans”
Lloyd, I appreciate your work on this channel. I grew up as a Witness and have been thinking about my experiences a lot (been out of the congregation for 20~ years). Watching the videos on your channel has been cathartic for me. Thank you very much.