Caller: "The elders won't remove him for abusing me"
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- (Voicemail no. 204) In a chilling a voicemail, a caller describes her ordeal of making sure her older brother faced justice for abusing her while her local elders continue to view him as a Jehovah's Witness in "good standing."
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Please consult with a lawyer and then take this to the press!! I'm so sorry for all that you've endured and thank you for all you've done to help prevent more children from being harmed.. at least possibly for the next 8 years. Sending you love and light from my heart to yours. Thank you Lloyd for all you do for us, year after year after year🙏 💕💞💕
Absolutely disgusting! Sadly this does not surprise me it’s just what I expect from this despicable cult.
I'm thinking you should tell your story to the papers. It will protect other children
Respect for this lady.. glad she cares for the children ❤❤❤
I'm so sorry to whoever this woman is .....this is a terrible tragedy, and she should not have to relive this horrific experience in front of unknown ignorant men . ❤
She does not see herself being a survivor as having a responsibility but as an obligation towards the safety of children.
This should hit the press.
Thank you for being so brave! It's very harda unfortunately from someone who's been through this in court and he was df'd for a few years and he did time in prison he got reinstated and sexually assaulted his own child. The religion doesn't care about victims! Further pursuing this can bring more emotional harm what he did to yourself! Lloyd thank you I agree 100% with your kind comments and advice. My dear friend just know you're not alone and love to you as you go through this 11:50
I applaud this female caller for having the courage to tell her difficult story. It's gross to think that her brother could still find himself in good standing within the JW community once he is released from prison.
So they refused the police access to his records. Typical of them, but how are they allowed to do so?
They are instructed by the evil men in NY to send report and destroy all documents. It's a corporation using the Bible to deceive less thinking group called JW
I’ve heard this more than a few times about them doing this- pretty sure it was in the Australian royal commission
JW are not allowed to do so. Charges are brought against them for complicity in these crimes, see the thousands of litigious and criminal matters against them world-wide
JW Org had the audacity to make application in the Supreme Court NYSD for expedition from reporting JW sexual assaults, assault and various crimes to the Police. The application was thrown out. They are a sick bunch of cruel narcissitic psychopaths
I agree. She's bravely taken the matter head-on and WON. The problem with the organization is that THEY will not pursue or relinquish to the secular justice system. Well, she bridged that gap successfully. If the org accepts him back, covers for him, relocates him, kisses his ears, whatever, that is their own well-publicized Achilles' heel and they will continue to pay for it. The cat is out of the bag and they will forever be under scrutiny. If we've seen anything over the last decade it's that they will "see new light" when it comes to their reputation / public image on some issues due to public outcry or exposure. I think on this topic we may see them begin to bend, especially over the next 5-8 years. The organization will undoubtedly look and operate differently even in the short time by his release.
I'd never suggest "time to get over it", but it is certainly time to enjoy the win, call it a job well done and, at the very least, move forward without this albatross around her neck. Good luck!!
Even if the perpetrator will be released in the community after whatever length of custodial sentence, he will be subjected to certain limitations of liberty no matter where he will live in the UK. One of the limitations is that he will be on the Sex Offenders Register which means signing at a Police office every week, being monitored by Police and Social Work at his home address, not being able ever to apply for PVG ( work with children and vulnerable adults ). Most employers will refuse him as employee upon DBS disclosure. His life is pretty much screwed thanks to a justice system that albeit imperfect sometimes does inflict some rightful punishment. The organisation at best will refuse him to become MS or Elder and warn the parents of young children in the congregation about unsupervised contact between him and their children without providing any details.
Do they have a sex offender registry in the UK? I would advise every JW to view the registry frequently.
Such a shame you had to go through this you did the right thing sister you are protecting anther child from a predator. This organisation has a lot to answer for what your saying about this organisation says it all. Sister wish you all the best for the future. ❤
Thk you Lloyd for reply ur a gentleman wish you and ur family a merry Xmas and a happy 2025.
I'm just so sorry to caller that she had to go through this. And then the kindness for her to care about it not happening to more children. And of course the one and only "True" religion wont help her protect other children from him repeating this behavior? Repulsive! This cult either breeds these monsters with their warped rules or gives a place for already made monsters to come and hide. The two witness rule is so ridiculous. What predator is going to let two witness catch them? And after this man was criminally convicted to not to disfellowship him. Just sick. I feel so bad for her. But know none of this is your fault and that you are a kind, loving person who deserves all of love and kindness right back. I wish you healing dear caller.
THE CULT WILL NEVER EVER BACK A DISSED PERSON OVER A MEMBER EVEN IF THE MEMBER DID OR DO HORRIFIC ACTS!!
This is sad but very true. I’ve experienced it myself.
@andracadicecrawford4256,
Sadly, I feel there's much truth in your claim. A child molestor who has continually repeated their crime can potentially be treated with a level of dignity that an apostate who is also a victim of child sexual abuse would likely not be subjected to.
Tell her to go to The Guardian newspaper! They care about kids!
😮A very very brave lady for going through all this , i feel her pain, yes we think we could do more but nothing can be done , i would hate to go up against any of the elders, it makes me sick, my ex husband had an affair with 2 14/ 15 year olds and lied as i wasn't allowed at his meetings with the elders, and wasn't disfellowship, I found out he became an elder 🙈 he should be in prison but i cannot do anything, its upto the girls to come forward to the police , they may do one day ?? Thank you Lloyd for giving her good advice going to the papers is a definite no no
Thank you for many great and educational videos - thank you for your videos helping me through my own issues within the organisation.
Keep up the great work Lloyd
we honestly cannot control the injustice in this world
Im so sorry this happened to you it’s disgusting & you’re so brave I hope his wife has left him….. If you feel you could cope with it then Definitely go to the news & papers the more people know the more they can spread the word…
Looking for justice... from a cult?
What I once thought, obviously indoctrinated, were a peaceful, loving ppl. Once mother passed, the truth surfaced. Vile, heartless! Don't be fooled. Thank you,Lloyd, as always!!
I could just about vomit listening to this. It amazes me how much progress we've made in human rights and still victims of SA are still getting trampled on. And what? Despite all the fight against sick organizations like JW and WatchTower we have to hope and wait for for them just to dry up naturally? 😢
In the US he may never get out(alive). The UK sucks. Also in the US bad things happens to people like this in the streets
I think it's possible that some press would publish your story if you emphasized the JW 2 witness rule and how they cover up abuse. That's a bit of a hot topic right now. Since he's been convicted of abuse, it's not slander to name him. If it got widespread coverage, it would be more difficult for him to hide when he gets out. Best of luck to you in any case. You are extremely brave! ❤
Good call playing down the WatchTower cult disciplinary process. What a waste of time and energy. The JW leadership must love pedos. Thank you for posting this voice-mail and response. ❤
I'm not a JW or a Mormon, but the JWs would have brought glory to Jehovah's name if they'd used the Elizabeth Smart case as an example and followed suit. She was given counseling, comfort, help to heal and love. They went with her to the hospital, police and court. JW elders prefer to sweep it under the rug and blame the victim because they don't want to bother going the more difficult route.
The JW organization reacts to x2 things, There 'god' and there money's! Go after the one that really exists and you'll see them react!
Just seen your recent Mushroom Video...
Remind yourself with this girls story...
This is reality....stay strong...they are wrong..not you 🍷
Did you color your hair bruh? How would Jehova feel about this 😮😂❤
@derekpeterson3999,
Jehovah would feel shame, so much so that he'll cause Lloyd's hair to fall out just before blasting him with a fireball at Armageddon. Damn, that sounds like double bad luck. And I thought him having an evil, shadowy identical twin brother named Floyd...whom Lloyd puts way too much trust in, was bad enough. I guess that's triple bad luck then? It all sucks. Sorry, Lloyd.
I'm just having fun my friend. You are a great person..
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