Just heard Norway said 'No' to their pityful letter adressing the changes to "removal"...💪🏼 The 'light is shining brighter and brighter' on this organisation...😊 P.S. Mid 2025 the Netherlands will have a special reporting and help point for victims and relatives of cults, sects and other high control groups.
They will say you DA’d yourself “by your actions” of making your videos. No judicial committee hearing, or procedures necessary. No appeal, no seven-day waiting period. By the way. I love your videos. You’re so much better off and I hope you and your family thrive with your freedom.
Interesting! I always thought that DA''d yourself meant you sent a letter to the Society to quit. I see it in different light now. Also, if they don't have additional family to blackmail you, with inside of any Kingdom Hall, and your family is all on the outside like mine, you are no fun to "harrass" you are just a gray rock that rolled away.
@@SherylSheryl-b3z I used to think you sent a letter to the congregation you belonged to, to DA yourself. But from Caleb’s experience here and many others such as my own, it’s clear they make up the rules as they go along.
When you said, "you'll never be able to explain your side," I immediately felt so happy that you have this platform in this day and age to defy what would typically have been the end of the story and you'd have never had a voice. Now, your challenge to corruption is public and widespread to the world. That's so great! There as SO many YT channels now that, together, you have constructed an army of informative voices. I do wonder if you're aware and watch other ex-JW content?
YES. When I was 20, I was the only teen boy in my congregation who did not have an elder for a father. When the sh!t went down for porn, drinking, etc. I was the only one who got DFd while I watched my lifelong friends lie right to everyone's face. They knew I was an easy scapegoat and the fkt me sideways. I was only out for 6 months. Oddly, I was driven to get back in out of pure spite.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I have been waking up for a little over a year and have listened to many stories about people being Disfellowshiped(im refusing to use thier new words) or Dissociated. Its very apparent that Elders do what ever is best for them,this can be very harmful or even life threatening if the person is in an abusive relationship or needs a blood transfusion. This cult is so good at making you feel bad for standing up and doing what is truly right. Thanks for having the courage to do so,and also showing us behind the curtain and what can really happen. Wish you well on the rest of your Journey and a happy life surrounded by people who will love you no matter what.
Let the dead bury the dead.. Let the blind follow the blind.. be happy that you got your family out. These tactics are no longer working because everybody knows it's just a religion now.
Sorry the men calling themselves elders of Jehovah's Witnesses dealt with you so callously. They wasted you and your lovely family. Shame on them. May God continue to bless your efforts in making as healthy an exit from this inaccurate religion as possible. Could feel your stress and disappointment in the men you thought at one time you could trust. They betrayed you bigtime. No one can tell you how you should feel. It's your personal business. Obviously, the SFOG book is lacking and especially when its not followed. That's on the GB for providing a poorly executed tool handed off to the Body as if it's sacred biblical material. May God bless you and your family. Thank you Caleb you are a good man.
Not only can they ruin your life with these labels, it feels you are powerless to defend your reputation to anyone in/out that supports the organization. Life changing experience that you can’t mentally prepare for.
Good point! It’s amazing how many non-Jehovah’s Witnesses will treat you badly for leaving the organisation. That is something I really wasn’t prepared for.
@Staff_Sgt_Dignam Bet not. The world treat witnesses better than witnesses treat each other. None more brutal than those found within the dark halls of Watchtower.
What's funny is that the PDF of the Shepherd book is already online. I've got my own copy. They already have access to it, but so many will not even look out of "respect".
@Eric_01 Even if that is the case, the fact that fact that this secret book got out is a massive disaster. Also,JWs are taught the same things over and over. A new book with new information would be very tempting to read, especially if the elders warn you not to read it
Caleb I’m a Ex JW also and was recently DF. I would love to do an interview with you on your show. I got disfellowshiped for praying for people at the hall and they got healed by the Holy Spirit. I wrote letters to the govern body before it happened and told them that it was possible. They arrogantly ignored me and told me to my face that it wasn’t real. So I prayed for older ones at the hall and they became healed. When the govern body found out that it was real they made the elders df me without even meeeting with me. They warned the congregation and threatened everyone saying that if they speak out they will get df also. All of this is because the govern body doesn’t want to be wrong so they are trying to sweep this under the rug just like with the child molestsation charges. The governing body reported that if this gets out it’ll destroy the organization. They said it themselves. So they even know. This is why they disfellowshiped me to keep this hidden. I’m not going to keep silent on this. I’m spreading this out. I would be happy to do an interview with you on your show. I’m already doing interviews on two other ex jws on there channels. This is a unique story and it’s going to help wake a lot of people up
It wasn’t during the service. I visited homes to the people in the congregation and laid hands on them and they came back to the hall the next day without canes or walkers
Wow Caleb another informative video thank you so much for sharing these nuggets of truth❤please keep these videos coming , you are helping so many to navigate their way through all that mess 😮
I know this post isn’t about me but boy, can I relate to Caleb’s experiences. In my case (short version) I broke up an Elders meeting one night after the regular meeting and asked for help getting back on track as one of Jehovahs Witnesses. I mentioned some specific things like check up on me and offer to go out with me in the door to door work which I found very difficult. I received pats on the back and assurances that they were there to help. One Elder went so far as to say that he wished more Elders meetings were about someone reaching out for help. Fast forward about a year and I received exactly zero help. Other than saying hi when I came to the meetings there was literally no attempts made to follow through. Not one. But because I had developed a non sexual relationship with a woman outside of my marriage, which I acknowledge is not a good thing (I’d have write a book to explain that part) what I did receive was a judicial meeting and subsequent disfellowshipping. My point simply being that the Emperor really doesn’t have any clothes when it comes to the retention part of Jehovah’s Witnesses as an organization.
Back in the late 1980's, I stopped going to the meetings. An elder invited me over to his family's apartment to talk with me. No other elders were there. When I said to him that I didn't want to go to the meetings anymore or do the preaching work, he said that I should write a letter of disassociation. I told him, "no, I'm not going to do that." It was their way of protecting the congregation while at the same time, allowing them to shun me, written by my own hand. I saw through that immediately because it would have also meant that my own mother would have to shun me, & that would have been the death of her. This is an insidious religion, hiding behind a facade of love.
@@giddygiddy5619 you see they use it as a form control and power ..and you find if you have questions that disagree with there doctrines ends up a marking and possible shunning
Everyone disfellowshipped one needs to beware of this rule! The original elders are the only ones who are allowed to know why you got disfellowshipped! Never admit to a new committee. When a disfellowshipped one goes to a different Kingdom Hall the new three elders does not have the right to know why you got disfellowshipped. Yet, new elders contact original elder by phone or letter. Then the original elders share why you got disfellowshipped with them. They claim it is to try to help the disfellowshipped ones, yet their gossip only hinders. Therefore, they break their rules and try to get disfellowshipped ones to keep talking about their errors. Disfellowshipped ones can legally sue for breaking the rules, but getting elders letters is needed! I went through reinstatement and was shocked when one elder who was angry and wanted to use power over me threw an original letter on my lap! It was the 70s and I did not read the elders manual, and I did not realize it was a cult! Later, It actually caused me to have trauma that they went against their own rules and continue to emotionally abuse me.
@@Staff_Sgt_Dignam Yes, very much so. It happened to me. The elders tell other elders in all neighboring congregations, so that everywhere the person goes, everyone looks down on him or her. It's not like we are meeting with the three elders, it's like we go on the platform and tell the whole congregation. Very embarrassing for the person who has done wrong. Should be kept within the three elders only, no one else should or needs to know what happened.
@@Staff_Sgt_Dignam I agree. The elders tell their wives, their wives tell other wives and the elders also tell their families and children. Once they reproved someone, it gives them the right to talk about "wrong doer" all they want. This is terrible and harmful.
The verse that JW's appeal to to justify shunning has to do with those who still claim to be part of the congregation, yet are living a publicly immoral life. The passage gives the examples of sexual immorality, greed, drunkenness, and similar. It does NOT say to shun those who are no longer members/participants in the group, or to shun people on the basis of theological disagreements. Shunning those who have left or are otherwise no longer participating or merely on the basis of theological controversy is completely unbiblical.
Same here . Did me same way . They were and are very deceitful. A few are honest but the majority just do what they are told right or wrong . They don't follow Bible principles only JW org rules they make up and put above the Bible.
Your situation has so many parallels to mine back in the 90s just one elder decided I had disassociated myself and couldn't even have a judicial committee
Iam so sorry they attempted ti cult troll you. I have not been df yet but done with their hate . Please know we appreciate you. Their abuse of my wife durring her alcoholism showed me all i needed.
Luke 11:37,38 Jesus accepted a dinner invitation from a Pharisee. (who were Apostates) If associating with apostates which Jesus did all the time is a sin. Please show us the scripture.
@@tammyg8031 I checked in my State of Michigan, and the only way you would have a case is if you could prove "tangible harm or loss". Emotional distress and ostracism by the religion doesn't mean you suffered financial loss. That's what my attorney told me. Even though they slandered, lied about and defamed my reputation as a God fearing Cristian man; suing for slander is a very difficult process to win, unfortunately. As there is nothing more that I'd like to do than sue not just the elders on the committee, but the entire body of elders who TRUSTED IN THE JUDGEMENT OF 3 QUACKS who didn't know their Bible from a Dr. Suess nursery rhyme!
The elders broke the rules with me. Two of the elders on my jc were the two that "investigated " me. On two occasions they visited me at home to hear about my feelings and concerns . They were elders and so I was honest with them about my loss of confidence in the gb and that I could no longer believe that they are the only channel and that the jws are the only true religion. I had not shared this thought with others in the congregation, plus, I had not been attending meetings for about 3 months . So these two elders served as the witnesses against me, having heard my views during their supposed shepherding call, AND as the judge, jury and executioner. That was breaking their own rules. Interestingly, it was never offered to me as an option that I could just remain inactive, and essentially be left alone. It was either "resign or get kicked out!" I think they preemptively kicked me out, just in case I would talk. Disfellowshipping me so unjustly for alleged apostasy only ensured that I did speak out .
Why? JW’s are our still our brothers, but deceived. We must have nothing but love for our former brothers and pray for them….that they find the real God, and the real Christ.
Caleb, i don't know what state/country you live in, but be sure about the LAWS. DEFORMATION OF CHARACTER is against the law in some states. WT should be accountable as much as possible through the law. That's how one gets WT to pay for what they are doing to their own members. Just some advice.
Hello ,greetings from London England. Why is the need for the public naming and shaming. It’s not a biblical practice. Who came up with that bizarre idea ?
This shows me something. This isn’t just brainwashed people following orders. This is dishonest people doing dishonest things because they can. They obviously think they are above the very laws they want to make you comply to. I always make excuses for the elders that repeatedly screwed me and my family over or others who shun people. I don’t they deserve excuses 😊
JWs Elders have two set of scales Just as the Scriptures talk about. Caleb you got a taste of your own medicine that you no doubt inflicted on others. Not right or Christian but im sure you have learnt about humility and will be a more rounded out individual. Since i left the JWs we can become better individuals instead of just following lots of rules and regulations. "We can truly become born again".
Caleb, it is not scary to lose your family if one loves God and Christ more than them. If fact, it is demanded from our King if we want to be His friend. (Matt.10:37-39) In my personal testimonial, I have never been so joyful than since I left WT and followed Christ, even though my entire family stayed with the org.
THE ELDERS GET A FREE PASS ON ANY WRONGDOING! ACCEPTANCE….IT WILL NEVER CHANGE!! I believe THEY are who the Bible tells us to “GET OUT FROM AMONG THEM!”😅
I don't get the impression that the word "shame" has a lot of meaning or context within Jeohovah Witnesses. It is annoying, it is cruel, it is nasty but it shows how right you and your family are to be free from a toxic religion. I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive them for the way you have been treated. Good luck for the future!
Our Elders lead in the morning text then meet up at our breakfast cafe as the publishers labor in the field. Nepotism and favoritism are a fact and new Elders moving to our small town leave hoping for a good recommendation letter not rocking the boat with our local idiots.
3:13 This will backfire with the local cong. Caleb. The more you say don’t do something, the more people want to do it….especially young people. A good example of this is sexual repression by WT.
Yeah Caleb; I can truly relate to the hypocrisy you've experienced as well as the unjust, un-Christian manner in which the "elders" act toward congregation members. I am an ex-Bethelite, MS and ex-elder for 14 years and during the Covid debacle, this pin head elders started harassing me over his ignorant views of the pandemic and the unlawful and unscientific mandates that were being pushed at the time. One night, while my wife and I were having our family study, they called me and invited me to a Zoom teleconference meeting. Turns out it was a secret judicial meeting accusing me of "violating neutrality"! "Neutrality"? Why don't they look for and find that word in the Bible?? Much less defined by the scripture writers!! Long story short, after NOT PRESENTING ANY EVIDENCE AGAINST ME, and AFTER NOT NAMING JUST WHAT I DID WRONG; they just blurted out, "You're no longer one of JW's" !!! WTH??? Had done nothing unscriptural; no serious sin was committed showing that I was somehow an unrepentant, hardened sinner who threatened the congregation; but because of some personal vendetta and offended conscience; these quack slanders just decided that after 55 years of being an ACTIVE and ZEALOUS PUBLISHER; never missing a month of field service in all that time; that "I'M NO LONGER A WITNESS FOR JEHOVAH" ??????????????????????????????????? Let me see,........Didn't Satan himself accuse the Almighty of ruling with tyrannical motive; that Jehovah wasn't a fair God in setting up moral laws for his creation? DIDN'T SATEN HIMSELF "ACCUSE" Jehovah of bribing people to gain their worship? (See the book of Job) Was not Satan called the "accuser" of God's people at Revelation 12: 10?? And doesn't the name "Devil", mean "slanderer"??? So who are these elders servants of?? God or the Devil? You decide. Thanks for releasing this video Caleb, as you have joined the thousands of ex-JW's who were unscripturally removed for disturbing the elder's consciences, instead of actually willfully violating God's moral standards!!
I don't know if you still believe in Jehovah. I certainly do. It really bothers me that those who identify themselves with Jehovah's name, are the very ones that bring reproach on His name. I believe the real apostacy is among the leadership.
1:47 At least one of the elders could have been courteous and just let you know that you were being disfellowshipped. Pretty sad Caleb. Sorry about that.
There are numerous videos circulating that discuss the backlash against Jehovah's Witness, questioning who is false and who is right in exposing online. Can you share with public what commandments of Jesus are that we need to follow in to inherit God's kingdom and experience the paradise that Adam and Eve once lived, free from death, suffering, and crime? There must be spiritual guidance; His word was not recorded for no reason. Since all religions are considered corrupt, whom should we? follow Some may choose to party from Monday to Saturday and repent on Sunday; however, there cannot be chaos without order.
@ I didn’t believe. I didn’t want to go to meetings. My parents were divorced and my dad was the JW. After elders talked to me and tried to “scare me straight” and that didn’t work, my dad shuffled me off to my mom. We’ve had no relationship since. I was not allowed to know my siblings. The practice is insidious. It’s been going on for decades and only now is the internet helping to expose it.
I used to be a Jehovah’s Witness once upon a time-why are you butt hurt?-Why are you running a campaign?-Why not just move onto something better?-And share with me and all of us something better😂😂 You’re not fooling anybody every religion has people that do what you’re doing -Malcolm X did the same thing with the nation of Islam😂 the suuni and shia-did the same thing after the prophet Muhammad died-the protestants did the same thing to the Catholic Church😂 how about we skip past all of the crying and whining and just tell us something that’s better than organized religion
You said it yourself in this video. You've made these videos and they've seen them. They can view your comments in the videos as disassociation. You made your own bed my friend. I don't agree with any JW internal judging, but you were aware of the possible consequences of your own actions in making these videos.
You claim the elders broke their own rules but gave no examples of what rules are being broken? If you disagree with the JW's go find another religion! there's a thousand of them(like fleas on a dog)
It's also a trait I notice more so among the men that were public speakers, listen to an elders on stage talk and you'll see it's an embedded thing..... The whole asking a question then answering it for themselves also follows the format of the study material.
Caleb, here's a pile of scriptural references I've discovered that exposes what they did as wrong, as disobeying scriptural counsel on judging, and making false and empty conclusions based on their personal opinions, conscience or bias: Romans 14: 2-12;........1 Corinth. 4: 3-6; James 4: 11, 12;..........1 Timothy 5: 21;......1 Tim. 6: 3-5;......Matt. 15: 8, 9. In your case and mine. Thanks.
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Coming from a family full of elders, I can confirm that elders are the ones who break the rules more than anyone else!
Yep!!!
Isaiah 8:10, 2thimoty 3:7-9, 2Peter 2:1-3.
yes
@@vusimngomezulu2500 Perfect
No joke dem disgusting bad
Just heard Norway said 'No' to their pityful letter adressing the changes to "removal"...💪🏼
The 'light is shining brighter and brighter' on this organisation...😊
P.S. Mid 2025 the Netherlands will have a special reporting and help point for victims and relatives of cults, sects and other high control groups.
That made my day when I saw that posted on Reddit!!!
I couldn't find any updates newer than March, 2024. There's more?
@@Eric_01 yes, go to the exJw subreddit and it’ll be within the top 10-15 new threads
They will say you DA’d yourself “by your actions” of making your videos. No judicial committee hearing, or procedures necessary. No appeal, no seven-day waiting period.
By the way. I love your videos. You’re so much better off and I hope you and your family thrive with your freedom.
Interesting! I always thought that DA''d yourself meant you sent a letter to the Society to quit. I see it in different light now. Also, if they don't have additional family to blackmail you, with inside of any Kingdom Hall, and your family is all on the outside like mine, you are no fun to "harrass" you are just a gray rock that rolled away.
@@SherylSheryl-b3z I used to think you sent a letter to the congregation you belonged to, to DA yourself. But from Caleb’s experience here and many others such as my own, it’s clear they make up the rules as they go along.
We're not high control, so let us control you." 😂😂😂😂😂
I know the other members of your old congregation are watching this and waking up 😂 love when ppl use their voice
When you said, "you'll never be able to explain your side," I immediately felt so happy that you have this platform in this day and age to defy what would typically have been the end of the story and you'd have never had a voice. Now, your challenge to corruption is public and widespread to the world. That's so great! There as SO many YT channels now that, together, you have constructed an army of informative voices.
I do wonder if you're aware and watch other ex-JW content?
Caleb, thank you for this video!! I was df’d in a very similar way. This video has given me so much insight. Thank you again for all you do.
In my experience, it was elders and elders kids who would get away with anything.
YES. When I was 20, I was the only teen boy in my congregation who did not have an elder for a father. When the sh!t went down for porn, drinking, etc. I was the only one who got DFd while I watched my lifelong friends lie right to everyone's face. They knew I was an easy scapegoat and the fkt me sideways. I was only out for 6 months. Oddly, I was driven to get back in out of pure spite.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I have been waking up for a little over a year and have listened to many stories about people being Disfellowshiped(im refusing to use thier new words) or Dissociated. Its very apparent that Elders do what ever is best for them,this can be very harmful or even life threatening if the person is in an abusive relationship or needs a blood transfusion. This cult is so good at making you feel bad for standing up and doing what is truly right. Thanks for having the courage to do so,and also showing us behind the curtain and what can really happen. Wish you well on the rest of your Journey and a happy life surrounded by people who will love you no matter what.
Wishing you and your family a very happy future together outside the JW community. Brilliant video.
It’s incredible how weak the faith of Jehovah’s Witnesses is.
W E A K
Good point 🤔
Watchtower is a house of cards built on shifting sand.
On the deck of the Titanic.
Why aren’t there any jw apologetics ?? Because they can get debunked in about 30 seconds
Reminds me of the Sanhedrin breaking many of their own rules during Jesus's night trial...
Thanks for sharing ❤❤❤🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Well you proved a huge point that they are trying to gaslight everyone about - that you are free to leave without repercussions.
Let the dead bury the dead..
Let the blind follow the blind.. be happy that you got your family out.
These tactics are no longer working because everybody knows it's just a religion now.
itsn't religion ,,, it's devil's cult,,,😈😈😈😈😈
It's a real estate company disguised as a religion.
Sorry the men calling themselves elders of Jehovah's Witnesses dealt with you so callously. They wasted you and your lovely family. Shame on them. May God continue to bless your efforts in making as healthy an exit from this inaccurate religion as possible. Could feel your stress and disappointment in the men you thought at one time you could trust. They betrayed you bigtime. No one can tell you how you should feel. It's your personal business. Obviously, the SFOG book is lacking and especially when its not followed. That's on the GB for providing a poorly executed tool handed off to the Body as if it's sacred biblical material. May God bless you and your family. Thank you Caleb you are a good man.
Run for the hills. Your free
Kangaroo court is what they call judicial committee
My man can make it rain shepherd books. Nice collection, haha
Not only can they ruin your life with these labels, it feels you are powerless to defend your reputation to anyone in/out that supports the organization. Life changing experience that you can’t mentally prepare for.
Good point! It’s amazing how many non-Jehovah’s Witnesses will treat you badly for leaving the organisation. That is something I really wasn’t prepared for.
@Staff_Sgt_Dignam
Bet not.
The world treat witnesses better than witnesses treat each other.
None more brutal than those found within the dark halls of Watchtower.
Sorry. I meant to give you a thumbs up.
I love the part where they claim to not be high control while high controlling what people should or shouldn't watch on YT. 😆
The irony escapes them.
If they do that to me, I will tell them I'm gonna share the elders book with the entire congregation. I play by my own rules
What's funny is that the PDF of the Shepherd book is already online. I've got my own copy. They already have access to it, but so many will not even look out of "respect".
@Eric_01 Even if that is the case, the fact that fact that this secret book got out is a massive disaster. Also,JWs are taught the same things over and over. A new book with new information would be very tempting to read, especially if the elders warn you not to read it
Share it with them. They should know the truth about this so called “Truth”.
@@finalpharoah1 Well, it IS the case. So why aren't they reading it?
Threaten them with legal action if they announce you are removed or they keep harassing you!
Caleb I’m a Ex JW also and was recently DF. I would love to do an interview with you on your show. I got disfellowshiped for praying for people at the hall and they got healed by the Holy Spirit. I wrote letters to the govern body before it happened and told them that it was possible. They arrogantly ignored me and told me to my face that it wasn’t real. So I prayed for older ones at the hall and they became healed. When the govern body found out that it was real they made the elders df me without even meeeting with me. They warned the congregation and threatened everyone saying that if they speak out they will get df also. All of this is because the govern body doesn’t want to be wrong so they are trying to sweep this under the rug just like with the child molestsation charges. The governing body reported that if this gets out it’ll destroy the organization. They said it themselves. So they even know. This is why they disfellowshiped me to keep this hidden. I’m not going to keep silent on this. I’m spreading this out. I would be happy to do an interview with you on your show. I’m already doing interviews on two other ex jws on there channels. This is a unique story and it’s going to help wake a lot of people up
You were healing people inside their church? Maybe you didn’t get memo. No imposing hands on people during church services.
It wasn’t during the service. I visited homes to the people in the congregation and laid hands on them and they came back to the hall the next day without canes or walkers
@@tye2674 oh you had a competing business. They don’t like that. They are the only official channel
Wow Caleb another informative video thank you so much for sharing these nuggets of truth❤please keep these videos coming , you are helping so many to navigate their way through all that mess 😮
God bless you Caleb
I know this post isn’t about me but boy, can I relate to Caleb’s experiences.
In my case (short version) I broke up an Elders meeting one night after the regular meeting and asked for help getting back on track as one of Jehovahs Witnesses.
I mentioned some specific things like check up on me and offer to go out with me in the door to door work which I found very difficult.
I received pats on the back and assurances that they were there to help. One Elder went so far as to say that he wished more Elders meetings were about someone reaching out for help.
Fast forward about a year and I received exactly zero help. Other than saying hi when I came to the meetings there was literally no attempts made to follow through. Not one.
But because I had developed a non sexual relationship with a woman outside of my marriage, which I acknowledge is not a good thing (I’d have write a book to explain that part) what I did receive was a judicial meeting and subsequent disfellowshipping.
My point simply being that the Emperor really doesn’t have any clothes when it comes to the retention part of Jehovah’s Witnesses as an organization.
You are a breath of fresh air and fearlessly do as you please! Keep up the great videos! Thank you!
Excellent commentary revealing a corrupt group that claims to represent the Lord Jesus. Disgusting.
I.ve been shunned and excluded all my life. And the "elder" abusive bully.
Amazing 🤩 never stop
You should sue the Elders.
Deformation of character. He may have a case. Hopefully.
Back in the late 1980's, I stopped going to the meetings. An elder invited me over to his family's apartment to talk with me. No other elders were there. When I said to him that I didn't want to go to the meetings anymore or do the preaching work, he said that I should write a letter of disassociation. I told him, "no, I'm not going to do that." It was their way of protecting the congregation while at the same time, allowing them to shun me, written by my own hand. I saw through that immediately because it would have also meant that my own mother would have to shun me, & that would have been the death of her. This is an insidious religion, hiding behind a facade of love.
they nether tell you when you have a Bible study about disfellowshipping or shunning until you get involved and you find out for your self
Shhhhh, it's an evil cult
@@giddygiddy5619 you see they use it as a form control and power ..and you find if you have questions that disagree with there doctrines ends up a marking and possible shunning
If a non-JW even asks point blank, they will just lie about it. It blew my mind what their lawyer told the ARC under oath.
Exactly wat am going through now ..not going back
Exactly wat am going through now ..not going back. Yes am frm Jamaica 🇯🇲
Everyone disfellowshipped one needs to beware of this rule! The original elders are the only ones who are allowed to know why you got disfellowshipped! Never admit to a new committee.
When a disfellowshipped one goes to a different Kingdom Hall the new three elders does not have the right to know why you got disfellowshipped.
Yet, new elders contact original elder by phone or letter. Then the original elders share why you got disfellowshipped with them.
They claim it is to try to help the disfellowshipped ones, yet their gossip only hinders. Therefore, they break their rules and try to get disfellowshipped ones to keep talking about their errors.
Disfellowshipped ones can legally sue for breaking the rules, but getting elders letters is needed!
I went through reinstatement and was shocked when one elder who was angry and wanted to use power over me threw an original letter on my lap! It was the 70s and I did not read the elders manual, and I did not realize it was a cult!
Later, It actually caused me to have trauma that they went against their own rules and continue to emotionally abuse me.
The elders also tell their wives a lot, and the wives spread gossip. It happened to me. I had elders’ children repeat gossip back to me.
The elders gossip to other elders in other congregations about people. I know so. Terrible religion.
@@Staff_Sgt_Dignam Yes, very much so. It happened to me. The elders tell other elders in all neighboring congregations, so that everywhere the person goes, everyone looks down on him or her. It's not like we are meeting with the three elders, it's like we go on the platform and tell the whole congregation. Very embarrassing for the person who has done wrong. Should be kept within the three elders only, no one else should or needs to know what happened.
@@Staff_Sgt_Dignam I agree. The elders tell their wives, their wives tell other wives and the elders also tell their families and children. Once they reproved someone, it gives them the right to talk about "wrong doer" all they want. This is terrible and harmful.
The verse that JW's appeal to to justify shunning has to do with those who still claim to be part of the congregation, yet are living a publicly immoral life. The passage gives the examples of sexual immorality, greed, drunkenness, and similar. It does NOT say to shun those who are no longer members/participants in the group, or to shun people on the basis of theological disagreements. Shunning those who have left or are otherwise no longer participating or merely on the basis of theological controversy is completely unbiblical.
Same here . Did me same way .
They were and are very deceitful.
A few are honest but the majority just do what they are told right or wrong .
They don't follow Bible principles only JW org rules they make up and put above the Bible.
Your situation has so many parallels to mine back in the 90s just one elder decided I had disassociated myself and couldn't even have a judicial committee
Iam so sorry they attempted ti cult troll you. I have not been df yet but done with their hate . Please know we appreciate you. Their abuse of my wife durring her alcoholism showed me all i needed.
Where can I download that elders' book?
Luke 11:37,38 Jesus accepted a dinner invitation from a Pharisee. (who were Apostates) If associating with apostates which Jesus did all the time is a sin. Please show us the scripture.
Take them to court for your time compensation,,,,,
All voluntarily no one forced us to so we wouldn't have a leg to stand on.
Watchtower done a job on us . We were gullible sadly
If possible, take them to court for DEFORMATION OF CHARACTER. Check ✔️ your state laws. You will have a CASE!!!
@@tammyg8031 I checked in my State of Michigan, and the only way you would have a case is if you could prove "tangible harm or loss". Emotional distress and ostracism by the religion doesn't mean you suffered financial loss. That's what my attorney told me. Even though they slandered, lied about and defamed my reputation as a God fearing Cristian man; suing for slander is a very difficult process to win, unfortunately. As there is nothing more that I'd like to do than sue not just the elders on the committee, but the entire body of elders who TRUSTED IN THE JUDGEMENT OF 3 QUACKS who didn't know their Bible from a Dr. Suess nursery rhyme!
The elders broke the rules with me. Two of the elders on my jc were the two that "investigated " me. On two occasions they visited me at home to hear about my feelings and concerns . They were elders and so I was honest with them about my loss of confidence in the gb and that I could no longer believe that they are the only channel and that the jws are the only true religion. I had not shared this thought with others in the congregation, plus, I had not been attending meetings for about 3 months . So these two elders served as the witnesses against me, having heard my views during their supposed shepherding call, AND as the judge, jury and executioner. That was breaking their own rules. Interestingly, it was never offered to me as an option that I could just remain inactive, and essentially be left alone. It was either "resign or get kicked out!" I think they preemptively kicked me out, just in case I would talk. Disfellowshipping me so unjustly for alleged apostasy only ensured that I did speak out .
You should sue them for failing to follow their own policies and procedures and inflicted personal harm.
Why? JW’s are our still our brothers, but deceived. We must have nothing but love for our former brothers and pray for them….that they find the real God, and the real Christ.
I really can't help wondering what the Norwegian Government would make of your personal experience 🤔
power over another person comes into play
You should threaten to sue for defamation of character
THANK YOU!!!
Caleb, i don't know what state/country you live in, but be sure about the LAWS. DEFORMATION OF CHARACTER is against the law in some states. WT should be accountable as much as possible through the law. That's how one gets WT to pay for what they are doing to their own members. Just some advice.
Hello ,greetings from London England. Why is the need for the public naming and shaming. It’s not a biblical practice. Who came up with that bizarre idea ?
This shows me something. This isn’t just brainwashed people following orders. This is dishonest people doing dishonest things because they can. They obviously think they are above the very laws they want to make you comply to. I always make excuses for the elders that repeatedly screwed me and my family over or others who shun people. I don’t they deserve excuses 😊
JWs Elders have two set of scales Just as the Scriptures talk about.
Caleb you got a taste of your own medicine that you no doubt inflicted on others.
Not right or Christian but im sure you have learnt about humility and will be a more rounded out individual.
Since i left the JWs we can become better individuals instead of just following lots of rules and regulations.
"We can truly become born again".
Caleb, it is not scary to lose your family if one loves God and Christ more than them. If fact, it is demanded from our King if we want to be His friend. (Matt.10:37-39) In my personal testimonial, I have never been so joyful than since I left WT and followed Christ, even though my entire family stayed with the org.
They need reported to the circuit overseers.
THE ELDERS GET A FREE PASS ON ANY WRONGDOING! ACCEPTANCE….IT WILL NEVER CHANGE!! I believe THEY are who the Bible tells us to “GET OUT FROM AMONG THEM!”😅
I don't get the impression that the word "shame" has a lot of meaning or context within Jeohovah Witnesses. It is annoying, it is cruel, it is nasty but it shows how right you and your family are to be free from a toxic religion. I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive them for the way you have been treated. Good luck for the future!
Our Elders lead in the morning text then meet up at our breakfast cafe as the publishers labor in the field. Nepotism and favoritism are a fact and new Elders moving to our small town leave hoping for a good recommendation letter not rocking the boat with our local idiots.
It’s a hell of a video
3:13 This will backfire with the local cong. Caleb. The more you say don’t do something, the more people want to do it….especially young people. A good example of this is sexual repression by WT.
Kangaroo court tactics, they getaway with anything they want to do. !!!!!!!!
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Yeah Caleb; I can truly relate to the hypocrisy you've experienced as well as the unjust, un-Christian manner in which the "elders" act toward congregation members. I am an ex-Bethelite, MS and ex-elder for 14 years and during the Covid debacle, this pin head elders started harassing me over his ignorant views of the pandemic and the unlawful and unscientific mandates that were being pushed at the time. One night, while my wife and I were having our family study, they called me and invited me to a Zoom teleconference meeting. Turns out it was a secret judicial meeting accusing me of "violating neutrality"! "Neutrality"? Why don't they look for and find that word in the Bible?? Much less defined by the scripture writers!!
Long story short, after NOT PRESENTING ANY EVIDENCE AGAINST ME, and AFTER NOT NAMING JUST WHAT I DID WRONG; they just blurted out, "You're no longer one of JW's" !!! WTH??? Had done nothing unscriptural; no serious sin was committed showing that I was somehow an unrepentant, hardened sinner who threatened the congregation; but because of some personal vendetta and offended conscience; these quack slanders just decided that after 55 years of being an ACTIVE and ZEALOUS PUBLISHER; never missing a month of field service in all that time; that "I'M NO LONGER A WITNESS FOR JEHOVAH" ???????????????????????????????????
Let me see,........Didn't Satan himself accuse the Almighty of ruling with tyrannical motive; that Jehovah wasn't a fair God in setting up moral laws for his creation? DIDN'T SATEN HIMSELF "ACCUSE" Jehovah of bribing people to gain their worship? (See the book of Job) Was not Satan called the "accuser" of God's people at Revelation 12: 10?? And doesn't the name "Devil", mean "slanderer"???
So who are these elders servants of?? God or the Devil? You decide. Thanks for releasing this video Caleb, as you have joined the thousands of ex-JW's who were unscripturally removed for disturbing the elder's consciences, instead of actually willfully violating God's moral standards!!
Great comment, you did the right thing by leaving the cult!
Own rules that is no rules,,,, that how devil operate,,,,
I don't know if you still believe in Jehovah. I certainly do. It really bothers me that those who identify themselves with Jehovah's name, are the very ones that bring reproach on His name. I believe the real apostacy is among the leadership.
1:47 At least one of the elders could have been courteous and just let you know that you were being disfellowshipped. Pretty sad Caleb. Sorry about that.
There are numerous videos circulating that discuss the backlash against Jehovah's Witness, questioning who is false and who is right in exposing online. Can you share with public what commandments of Jesus are that we need to follow in to inherit God's kingdom and experience the paradise that Adam and Eve once lived, free from death, suffering, and crime? There must be spiritual guidance; His word was not recorded for no reason. Since all religions are considered corrupt, whom should we? follow Some may choose to party from Monday to Saturday and repent on Sunday; however, there cannot be chaos without order.
What is your violation?
Yo,,, just keep going to kingdom hall ,,,
And record them on camera,,,,,,,,
Wicked man? You? Perhaps. (I doubt it but I’m making a point here.:)
I was shunned at 7-years-old. And I’m female.
What in the world could you have done to get shunned at 7 years old? I'm not a JW/ex JW but that's crazy!
@ I didn’t believe. I didn’t want to go to meetings. My parents were divorced and my dad was the JW. After elders talked to me and tried to “scare me straight” and that didn’t work, my dad shuffled me off to my mom. We’ve had no relationship since. I was not allowed to know my siblings. The practice is insidious. It’s been going on for decades and only now is the internet helping to expose it.
@TenWau
I'm sorry. My sister is a JW and she hasn't spoke to me in 8 years. Crazy!
I hope you have found peace in Christ.
@It is . . . and I’m sorry you’re going through it too.
@TenWau
Thank you. You take care of yourself.
Sounds like a high school clique
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I used to be a Jehovah’s Witness once upon a time-why are you butt hurt?-Why are you running a campaign?-Why not just move onto something better?-And share with me and all of us something better😂😂
You’re not fooling anybody every religion has people that do what you’re doing -Malcolm X did the same thing with the nation of Islam😂 the suuni and shia-did the same thing after the prophet Muhammad died-the protestants did the same thing to the Catholic Church😂 how about we skip past all of the crying and whining and just tell us something that’s better than organized religion
Please stay spiritual and pray, keep communication with the Divine. We are all children of God and Creation.
That could be debated easily.
The elders are mam made GOD'S 😅
You said it yourself in this video. You've made these videos and they've seen them. They can view your comments in the videos as disassociation. You made your own bed my friend. I don't agree with any JW internal judging, but you were aware of the possible consequences of your own actions in making these videos.
The videos came after everything he's describing.
You claim the elders broke their own rules but gave no examples of what rules are being broken? If you disagree with the JW's go find another religion! there's a thousand of them(like fleas on a dog)
Só IF they not informe you that is a judicial meeting, so technically you Just cant DENY tô join in a thing that you was not invite tô do.
Don't laugh so often and sheepish Caleb.
What's up w all the people who make videos and that weird laugh they keep doing?
Because you can't believe what's happening to you. I always make a weird chuckle too when things get ridiculously overwhelming.
It's also a trait I notice more so among the men that were public speakers, listen to an elders on stage talk and you'll see it's an embedded thing..... The whole asking a question then answering it for themselves also follows the format of the study material.
Caleb, here's a pile of scriptural references I've discovered that exposes what they did as wrong, as disobeying scriptural counsel on judging, and making false and empty conclusions based on their personal opinions, conscience or bias:
Romans 14: 2-12;........1 Corinth. 4: 3-6; James 4: 11, 12;..........1 Timothy 5: 21;......1 Tim. 6: 3-5;......Matt. 15: 8, 9. In your case and mine. Thanks.
(Proverbs 17:15) 15 Anyone who acquits the wicked one and anyone who condemns the righteous one -Both of them are detestable to Jehovah.
Hahahahahaha I Have never been removed thanks God