Piers Morgan Debates Headscarf Ban With Muslim Women | Good Morning Britain
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Piers and Susanna talk to two Muslim women who disagree about a new ruling on religious clothing in the workplace.
Broadcast on 15/03/17
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RIP, to Hanna Yusuf she passed a few years ago. She was a very educated, Somali journalist who spoke 6 languages fluently. She is the one who does a lot of the translations for the BBC.
Why did she die?
@@SK-nw4ig”Why” is the wrong word to use here. She committed suicide
@@banterlona8166 Oh, too bad. Still, why?
Headscarf is NOT a cultural thing. It completely a religious thing. It's even in Christianity and Islam.
It shouldn’t be used in workplaces, IMO.
@@miranda8598 for what reason
@@miranda8598 short respond and you run out...what the different the IQ level between you and a kid.
Exactly nothing is worth trading ur religion for
@@miranda8598 cry about it im proud of my mom and sister for not showing their body to deathstaring men
Piers has a point. My catholic-raised mom wore headscarves and turbans back in the 1970s. It was just the fashion. A piece of clothing like any other. We can wear a scarf around our neck, but not on our head? Yet we can wear a hat on our head? How ridiculous.
How about the Muslim dress? Should a woman be forced to wear a Western suit to work? Maybe let's pick on her jewelry, too? Let's scrutinize every piece of her outfit to make sure it has no religious connotations?
The solution is really simple. She can pack her bags and find an equivalent job in a Muslim country, where she does not have to fight for her right to wear a Hijab at work place.
Right now, Muslims have a very bad image around the world.
The difference is that the Islamic Iranian government is beating, jailing, poisoning and killing women for refusing to wear a hijab. ISIL (the Islamic state militia) forced their sex slaves to put on hijabs before they raped them. Those Yazidi women when they were rescued by American soldiers, the first thing they did was rip off their hijabs and trample on them. If Piers condemns Shamima Begum because of her association with ISIL and endorses her being stripped of British citizenship, he should also be consistent here. Hijab is a symbol of Islamic terror and fascism, it should be banned jsut like the swastika.
News flash bud white people can wear turbans to
It’s religion
Tell that to the families of the people that lost their lives. They live in our country they respect out culture
the happiness in the Muslim women's face when Piers started supporting her😂😂🤣
In a country where u have every right to practice Ur religion and then people say to females stop wearing a headscarf is inflicting their rights of practicing religion.
They want us to allow men to use womens rest rooms and force us to use a fake gender but refuse to allow another to wear a head covering. Fucked up. Let her wear what she wants. It looks very nice and she looks respectful.
@@cm-qt9ir no it doesn't, because it's a personal thing and it doesn't hurt anybody
@cm-qt9ir who said it is illegal in Britain? There are many British Muslims. A country being not religious doesn't mean everyone inside it or every citizen should be an atheist. It is just a way to rule the country. Please understand what the meaning is and then talk wisely. Don't just go around attacking people without knowledge. This just spreads unjustifiable hate and demolishes peace.
@cm-qt9ir that's a false statement over here" Christians are always secular", I have seen Christian people wear the cross, tattoos of cross on their bodies, and even wear the black hijab-like clothing, and no one told them anything.
Piers Morgan s attitude: "let me finish the stated i started in the middle of your response!"😂
As an athiest who abhors all religion i still find this ridiculous, as long as it isnt interfering with work then whats the point 🤦♂️ people should wear what they want
You are a brainwashed and naive atheist.
Exactly. This whole "issue" just shows the amount of people who have a hair fetish and are just realizing it. I wonder if they care this much about people who choose to wear a hat?
So you are perfectly okay with a police officer wearing a burka? Or someone working at the cash register?
@@Mark-vn7et Hijab isn't the same as burqa, hijab is much shorter and simpler
@@GILATRAVEL579 I know the difference, but it’s still the same. But okay let’s change it up, what about a police officer that has his face completely full of tattoos? Wearing a pointy white hat? We’ve all seen those “freaks” on tv that do extremebody modifications. What about those? What about a woman who decides to dress up like a stripper working at a law firm? There are certain jobs and company’s that require neutrality. It’s simple, and it’s not singling out a certain religion. It’s the same with a cross, or the star of david, wearing a Sikh
my respect for Piers keeps growing.
Watch him now
Totally sh* t
wait rlly? Why what did he do?@@Empowervisionyt
What has happened to England?? Piers and those who think like him are the reason the country has gone down the toilet. He must hate his country!
when it's about transgender people, it's about feelings and we don't have to hurt their feelings even if it's about letting them use the same restroom and locker room with women, but when it's about religion and specially muslim or non western religions it's law above all
You can't go in the ARMY with whatever you want to wear, Some places require a dress code,You can't go in shorts as a stockbroker just like that when you're on WORK,it's not just about you especially if you're in a bigger firm, you carry the brand and that's the only thing you should do while working it's really simple but people these days are too scared of not being involved with Islamophobia that even COMMON SENSE vanishes completely what's ridiculous is your way of thinking, WEAR A CLOWN MASK WITH 3 turtlenecks when you're home but when you're at WORK keep your religion to yourself.
@@thokucheetahu talking out of ur ass rn keep it shush
@@thokucheetah So basically you are allowed to be religious from 5 pm till 9 am next day and between 9 am and 5 pm you must be an atheist? You are ridiculous. Religion doesn't work like that.
@@thokucheetah Clearly you are trying to use silly examples to confuse the truth. Wearing a head scarf is Not THE SAME as wearing a bikini or a clown mask to work.
A new law could easily come out that bans women from using makeup, or how about the law that existed back then that only prostitutes should wear lipstick as it is mandatory?
Hijab, makeup, hair clips, accessories, and tattoos are not things that interfere with the dress code. Just admit that you don't like this religion or its people and you want to erase them.
A dress code serves for something, like not wanting people to be distracted at work, or look professional. And I really don't think covering your hair changes that.
@@thokucheetah ahhh yes, be a corporate slave and put it above everything else including religion and your sense of belief.
you realise how communistic and authoritarian this sounds right?
isnt it crazy that the womans whos yellin and so insistant and impatient in her way of putting forth her opinion, is the one whos in no way shape or form affected by the ban, but the one WHO IS, the hijabi muslim girl, is absolutely polite and her demeanor is calm.
That shows who are more insecure.
This is just false information. She is a business owner so she is absolutely affected by the ruling. There was also no general ban of anything at all. Any bans would be up to the companies themselves.
@@maekklyn But her company isnt affected. As she said she allowed everyone, as she sees skills and talent. So no she isnt affected.
That's what happens when Piers Morgan keeps interrupting you! 🙄
I just don't know why anybody would look at Hannah and think this is in any way offensive. Piers choses his words carefully. He is always conscious and clear about what he says. Massive massive massive respect for this man. God bless him
He’s gone backwards now with Israel-Palestine
which side is he on@@A1Gz_
@@A1Gz_ who do u think is right in the war mate???
@@mjjsjd1786 That’s a silly inappropriate question meant to antagonise from a place of prejudice. Also It’s not a war because the Hamas to civilian casualty rate is 100/1 ‼️ there’s so much to go over but I’d rather not write a crazy long comment cos who tf is gonna read it
@@A1Gz_ That is what i wanna say its a silly inappropriate question... U can't just hate someone for supporting Israel or supporting Palestinian peoples... Same goes with Piers he can support anyone he want to support but at the end no one is right in such matter cause the one's who really lose are the civilians (either Israeli or Palestinian)
People nowadays wants everyone to accept their ridiculous pronounces but they can't acceptor give freedom of expression to another religion!!!
They want both actually! Most people just wanna be treated well!! The media circus just pits others against each other!
yup basically, it's ridiculous. they can give the "freedom of expression" to burn the holy Quran but not the freedom of expression to cover your hair, wow
@@CosmicLeaf198exactly
its actually more the people who want people to accept their pronouns who give people freedom of religion. funny how its not the same back
I would refuse to call someone by their preferred pronouns.
There’s no way anyone would look at another person who stopped important religious things just because someone in a higher position told them to and think that it’s okay what both parties are doing
If men can become women and women can become men, why can't a woman wear a headscarf? Teaching young children about LGBT in schools, plenty of people object, but nobody is banning it. Just getting triggered over a headscarf.
Why would someone with an unfavorable view on LGBTQ come to a place where it is accepted in the first place? Either you take it or leave it and go back to your own country. Islam and western will never mix.
In general they can wear a headscarf unless it is against a dress code somewhere. No different than not being able to wear a hat...or not being able to wear shorts...or needing to wear suits. There was no general ban on headscarf like the video tries to make you believe. They just gave the companies back their rights to make their own dress codes based on their own objectives.
Double standards you see
@@maekklyn dress code usually means a certain style of dressing. you can wear a hijab and also wear a suit. hijab is no different from a woman wearing a wig. its as absurd as a employer banning wigs from workplace
go wear it in syria . not here
As muslim, I wear the headscarf to show my identity and my submission to Allah god and set boundaries. However, this does not mean will interfere with what I am asked to do at work. Also, majority of hijabi muslim they would choose to not remove the scarf because we submit to god more than career, wealth and other things.
It’s not just about you though is it?
Peace be upon you,
it is indeed about hijabis and correction of the misconception that hijab or modesty might interfere with work. In fact, if we do not do our job properly, if we cheat deceive or lie. It is considered one of the major sins. However if most of the hijabis were asked to remove their hijab. They will leave their jobs because as I said the core of Islam is the submission to the one who created and non submission of anything else. .
To answer your question, it is about me and all hijabis and muslims all over the world😊
Please take care of yourself.
@@Hibaly- what about the people who have to put up with it? Don't they matter?
@@ezeee595 I guess they should work on their tolerance because I dont think a piece of Fabric and someone wearing modest and having power over their body to show just their face should annoy someone.
@@Hibaly- how do you know that? You are making a huge assumption about people’s level of comfort.
I used to work with a girl who used to wear the hijab at work. Firstly, she was always on a war path with people whom she thought of as non believers. She also refused to make eye contact with her male colleagues. She made a lot of people feel uneasy around her.
She was spoken to a few times about her professional behaviour at work and she refused to change her ways. It got to a point that nobody wanted her on their team.
People can be understanding and compassionate up to a point.
If a company is so concerned with a hijab, or a pagri, a burqa, or so on, then that is not a company you should want to work at as they put way too much emphasis on 'the right kind of appearance'. I run a business which consists of people from many ethnic backgrounds and preferences, and we all wear whatever as long as it is 'modest' (which basically means don't come in a bikine or shorts or a tank top etc). I focus on what my employees can provide for me, I don't give a damn about what they wear.
I think you miss the point. When a company employs someone like this lady, the remaining members of staff feel like they have to walk on egg shells when they are around her. This lady is also more likely to sue the company, if she feels her personal beliefs have been violated. Its the whole package the company does not want.
I know this because I have experienced it first hand.
@@ezeee595that's a huge lie. You feeling like you have to walk on egg shells around such a person is your perception. Treat them like you would treat any other employee and it's fine.
@@lymaabdoul Nonsense. They ARE being treated like any other employee…and yet they want special concession to accommodate their personal belief.
It’s clear you have no clue how a business is run. She will be the first to sue the company, in case somebody says the wrong thing to her that it’s in conflict with her ‘personal beliefs’.
@@ezeee595 give me one exemple of a request to accomodate their personal beliefs.
@@lymaabdoul New company policies that allow wearing of hijab and burkas at work place. Allocating prayer rooms to Muslims in the office. Allowing Muslims to take time off for prayers during office hours. Selling halal meat in the canteen.
Why does she think the world has to bend over backwards to accommodate her? How selfish and arrogant of her.
She can pack her bags and go to Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia and find an equivalent position in a company where hijab is allowed.
By law an employer cannot discriminat they're employees in any capacity due to race, religion or cultural background. Therefore a company cannot force a female Muslim employee to remove their head scarves as it is seen as religious or cultural discrimination. This is covered in many unions, work place legislations and numerous other legal documents that make up rules that must be followed for all work places.
I'm in the religion of ratty beards/hair and facial tattoos, don't discriminate bro...
Give me a break dude
Not the same thing dude😆 a Headscarf is a piece of clothing and hence people wear it all the time, imagine if I told you to remove your pants because majority of the people are doing the same, that's ridiculous.@@cml007
Well you can't go in the ARMY with whatever you want to wear, Some places require a dress code,You can't go in shorts as a stockbroker just like that when you're on WORK,it's not just about you especially if you're in a bigger firm, you carry the brand and that's the only thing you should do while working it's really simple but people these days are too scared of not being involved with Islamophobia that even COMMON SENSE vanishes completely what's ridiculous is your way of thinking, WEAR A CLOWN MASK WITH 3 turtlenecks when you're home but when you're at WORK keep your religion to yourself.
@@thokucheetah it is really keeping it to themselves isn't it? They wear a headscarf cz of their religion it's upto them. They're not forcing you to do anything are they. But yeah, if a company doesn't want their employees wearing a headscarf and has a particular strict attire then so be it, but if it's just religious embellishments, then as Pierce says, what if it's a woman who's not Muslim but just wants to wear a headscarf.
what about the religious law of Islam which asks them to doscriminate against non muslims and non believers. ?? muslims just play victims and never take acountability
As a Muslim, I must say that hijab is like my identity and it doesn't make me feel if it is taking my freedom away from me, Covering up my body is my choice which makes me feel more confident and secured It is never going to take away my rights of being the person I am today.
But this is the same like many Muslim and communist country's. Muslim country's lay down head covering laws, like Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, They say ALL women have to cover their hair; and none Muslim women have to abide by these laws. I am very sure that all of you Muslim women knows about these laws in these Muslim country's; and you would say yes these none Muslim women should respect the law. You don't have no problem with these Muslim country's laws for none Muslim women but when the opposite it now done to you, YOU ALL CRY "FREEDOM OF EXPRESION, FOR MY RELIGION" I think a lot of you Muslims are "HYPOCRITES"
When have any of you Muslim women spoken out publicly for none Muslim rights in these Muslims country's????? YOU DEAR NOT as you know you will get a BIG black lash from your Muslim community and family. And I don't even think any of you care for none Muslim rights in Muslim's countries.
I really want to know if any of you Muslim women publicly speak out for none Muslim women's rights????
Cause i see that this is all HYPOCRISY.
With that being said, i do not agree with laws that demand the removal of religious clothing unless it is for safety and security reasons.
Same here ❤
Covering your body is NOT your choice. The quran says the hijab is mandatory. You have NO CHOICE.
@@Stekaren Exactly, you said the right words although I do find the way you put it in a bit aggressive. But you are completely right, wearing a hijab and covering up is part of being Muslim, and it is a must to do so.
@@Stekaren when i wake up, i have THE choice of putting on the hijab right??? no gun to my head hm
Your belief is your belief. My belief is my belief. Your belief is not my belief and my belief is not your belief.
Surah Kafiroon
The way Hannah was so polite, and soft is amazing
I just found out she's passed away in 2019
As an orthodox Jewish woman, I will be covering my hair after marriage with a wig, as it is customary to the specific sect of Judaism I belong to. Does it mean I wouldn’t be allowed to wear a wig if I admit doing it due to religious reasons? What if I claim it to be my personal style? 😁 This is honestly just ridiculous
P.S. Please note that if you are a man who believes to be the opposite sex, then your „belief“ is very well protected and you can dress however you like, even in a very inappropriate manner in front of young children.
Pedo
You can wear a wig, just not a headscarf
Err…why a wig and not a simple scarf? Never heard of this 😊
@@erikstone2321 Im curious, whats the logic behind this? Why does someone wearing a piece of clothing on their head offend you? Do you have the same reaction for people who choose to wear a hat?
It's about v i s i b l e religious symbols, so a wig would be acceptable to a company. Nobody would notice your wig. You keep your religion to yourself. That's what this company wants.
that is such an excellent point piers made about women wanting to wear headscarves as a personal individual reason. I used to wear them and im not Muslim. I loved to wear them
Yes, there are women for whom wearing a scarf on the head is purely a fashion statement.
@@denisenoe3702 In this case its not. Its purely a religious reason.
@@ezeee595 Correct. There are cases of women who have to wear scarves because an involuntary condition made their hair fall out.
@@denisenoe3702 But that is extremely rare
@@thedictationofallah Yes, it is.
If a company says they wouldn't like to have men dressed as women, people would react totally differently.
Man Piers Morgan just got my respect
The world needs people like Piers with common sense. Bravo Piers!!
Common sense to bring religion and politics in the workplace. That’s a recipe right there for fights and arguments and lawsuits. Very professional.
I like piers, speaks it as it is
He interrupt to much.
@bajas1000 Yeah, he was right, but I would've loved it if he didn't interrupt as much.
But I guess he might have done that because she wasn't gonna allow someone to speak easily before the time of the interview finishes, and kept repeating her point.
@@salmasayed5274 He is good most of the time and was right here. He was a real hypocrite in the debatt with Tommy Robinson. Do you remember why ? :-)
@bajas1000 Yea the middle of his sentence interrupted the start of hers.
The issue is not one of mddsty but to make a statement that everyone has to bend to the wills of the mminorities
It's such a difficult subject. Companies are trying to reduce the chance of racial conflict within their workforce by applying a ' neutral' dress code, but in doing this, they're encroaching on their religious practices. Both sides have good grounds for arguement. So difficult.
Why do companies want to ban head scarfs or religious wears?
Because its a company in a western country that profits of this ridiculous nonsens. This would only happen in the western world.
oh then as a woman, am I allowed to not wear religious wears in islamic countries as I am not religious?
@@Athompthompyes dummy
@@jiihuiu7664 no it's not. just be real. In Iran, women are lynched by mob and beaten by her own family to death for refusing to wear hijab. how generous muslims are.
@@Athompthompyes but this is a stupid comparaison
For me as a revert, who has not started wearing a hijab outside special occasions and mosque. Wearing a hijab is a form represantion and identiy as muslim person. Everytime I see muslim women out and about, I get a bit sad they don’t know I am also a muslim because I don’t look it. It is a cultural thing, not just relgious. To indentiyf as a muslim woman, as a part of the muslim community.
I get what you are saying but you should do it for the sake of Allah not for the sake of other people
But according to Quran hijab is not a cultural thing sister!
It is a command from Allah and Muslims do hijab to make Allah Happy
I think you feel ashamed, that's the reason you don't wear it!
Hijab was idea from a man that didnt want other men to see his wife because of low self-confidence and jelaousy. And women were not allowed to say much back then so they still follow this idea to this day. You can argue with me that "god" wanted that but I trust my logic and not some book that was written by 50 year old men who married 6 year old child.
@@Janko.1 ok but that six year old girl was a Leader of muslims and Called the mother of believers
If her father allowed her and she herself had no regret of marrying him then who are you??who allow u to question?? But still if you do, my answe will be this👉 that time it was normal for arabs!
Enemies of the prophet did not say a word about his marraige then who are you?? If it was not normal back then then it was a good Excuse for prophet enemies!
U are a loser man who just want to modern the world by saying that we don't believe in religion but in reality this cause alot of problems today e.g LGBTQ and unhumanity problems!
Muslim culture is a religion-based culture then. moving on
big thumbs up for Piers for this interview and standing up for us hijabis!
Fr 😊
I hate this whole thing!!!!
They've gone as far as legalizing every kind of thing.
Now they're into stripping people of their religious outfits that promote Goodhood.
Stay in Afghanistan monkey
While at work and AFTER agreeing to work for them in the first place yes. Businesses don't exist to give people a personal platform for expression. You work for them and you do what they tell you to do or you leave it has always been that simple.
Piers has a point. THANK you!
It is confusing that Mr. Morgan started the jacket argue. At least conpanies always have clothing rules, or so many men are happy about wearing suits?
Other companies have own uniforms, waiters white shirts or blouses and black trouseres. How short a skirt may be?
Would anybody on that couch would not understand, that going to work at an insurance just in a Leopard tanga may not be seen as apropriate?
And what does "it is more affecting Muslim women"... Haver their feelings more rights than of Hindus or Kippa wearing Jews?
Love how the Muslim woman is respectful and waits to be talked to before speaking and doesn’t cut anybody off you can tell she’s a woman of faith
Go to afgan, pak and experience the faith😂
@@indian69120 agree, they think its a base right of every muslim on a planet, given at birth , to move to any European country to live there and to spread their hi-tech religion and to be respected , lol
RIP Hanna Yusuf, may Allah grant you Jannah. I'm proud you were confident in your religion
Love how he asked to be allowed to finish his sentence after interrupting his guest cause it's his show, what a child
bitcch please, when the point gets stucked in your throat, you will try to find a reason to justify your bigotry
Poor Hannah has sadly passed away some years ago. Please do respect. She was a talented girl who knew 5 languages
How
RIP Hanna Yusuf
What a great mind 😔
I swtiched the comments to newest and this really made me sad to see. She seems like such a sweet girl
Rip to this wonderful young lady Hannah. sad to find out that she was going through all this pain. She looked so strong and under control. Check on your people no matter how calm they appear.
Well, in the UK most workplaces already have either a uniform or a dresscode. Neither of those I would ever wear by myself (I dislike formal clothing and I'm physically uncomfortable in them). So employers already have this power in my opinion - I can't wear my fashion in my office, so what?
Well you can't go in the ARMY with whatever you want to wear, Some places require a dress code,You can't go in shorts as a stockbroker just like that when you're on WORK,it's not just about you especially if you're in a bigger firm, you carry the brand and that's the only thing you should do while working it's really simple but people these days are too scared of not being involved with Islamophobia that even COMMON SENSE vanishes completely what's ridiculous is your way of thinking, WEAR A CLOWN MASK WITH 3 turtlenecks when you're home but when you're at WORK keep your religion to yourself.
Just to clarify further, I would prefer if anybody could wear whatever they want to work, I'm just making the point that this is quite the opposite in general, and especially in the UK.
@@Niphredyl Intelligence is the ability to adapt- Hawking said that, it's not about what you prefer it's simply work ethics and just like a firefighter can't go wearing doctors clothes and an undercover cop with his uniform, it's not about my opinion or yours
How can a piece of clothing affect a company??? ridiculous..... are they hearing what they r saying
It’s odd that many people object to modest attire while not minding cleavages and short skirts in the work place. Which one is more professional?
Rip hanna yusuf 😢❤
I think common sense would be to say good luck to that company and bye bye.
I don't know why people are so obsessed with the hijab. It isn't harming anyone and if they allow gay people to do a 'pride walk' where they scream out their ideaology, why would they have a problem with women wanting to cover themselves with clothing whilst working?
Piers you are good journalist.
Bcz Not one sided . and logical questions.
Exactly
you’re joking right ? 🤣🤣🤣
Her arguements about banning head covering makes no sense. She looks like a very clean cut respectable lady. But that same lady that wants to ban head covering would be the first to say a man can be a woman.
She is embarassingly pushy-annoying
lmao yeah that's exacntly what i noticed too, her argument was nonexistent. she sounds like the type of person who would blindly follow the most ridiculous laws just because it's a law
You are implying to her something that she did not say. She does not want to ban had covering. She only say, what the ruling and the law said that if company ask you not to express your religions symbols at work that is not discrimination and they have a full right to ask you that. This is for protecting the neutral working environment.
Otherwise, for example, Muslims could argue that forcing them to work on Friday is discriminating to them.
Well ok then ban religious clothing at work but where does it end? Clean and respectful. I as a customer care less what a person looks like or what they wear. Clean and respectful who cares unless pushing it on others. Aint my life and dont care what others wear.
@@shawnkelly695 Professional appearance and attitude should be neutral if you respect that people have different cultural, religious, political and economic backgrounds. Your religion and political expression should be left for your private life. If you act like this, then there is no risk that someone will be offended.
“It’s very personal if you’re the one wearing the scarf isn’t it”
Ok but y was she shouting the whole time lol 😭
What if every company says women should only dress in Hooters gear?
That wouldn't make sense outside of the bar/grill environment would it? No law firm would adopt that just as Hooters wouldn't adopt business attire similar to Lawyers.
Makes sense for hooters 😆
As a Christian who disagrees with the morals of the Muslim faith, banning headscarfs is appalling behaviour and is completely ridiculous.
As a muslim
Your a walking W
@@pxrfxct5680 never do so , u will repent forever.
Keep following the path of christ.
Amen.
when your parents teach you correctly
@@ayhamre1235 incorrectly*
Is this what your religion teaches you .follow the true religion islam
Thanks piers, for once I’m happy with your speech 👍
Can they wait for people to pause?
Do I think the full headscarves are over the top? Yes. Should anyone be allowed to express their religious beliefs? Also yes.
does the fact that women want to hide their bodies from perverts like you really hurt your feelings that much?
Not when it comes to religious extremism
@@erikstone2321lol religious extremist don't dress like that
@@erikstone2321 wait so wearing a headscarf makes you an extremist? You people make less and less sense every time.
Express your beliefs in your own time and with your own circle of like-minded friends and family. NOT AT WORK.
It is just nasty that some companies in the modern world ban something without any specific reasons other than just "It is company rule". Pathetic...
No, it’s good, IMO. Neutral clothing is great at work.
@@miranda8598 That's your opinion. Thing is, everyone else have their own opinions. Best way to deal with rule that makes no sense is to remove the rule itself.
@Amin well if everyone's opinions will be taken into account then there will be no criminals in this world.
There has to be an institution deciding the rules which are neutral for everyone.
Muslims always have the problem of not caring about others religious feelings except their own.
@@sohamlovessicilian.7387 what do you mean not caring other religions?
@Idam Satriya well when they are in a minority they always scream about equal treatment and secularism.
When they are in the majority, they demand Sharia law to be applied for everyone.
And it is quite evident that in all Islamic countries, the minorities are rapidly fading away.
And then they say “Human Rights”… If a man can now wear a dress why cannot Muslim women continue to wear a scarf to stay connected to their roots ?
So, as a man who believes in the religion of Iron man, I can wear Speedos to work?
i can understand if its a safety issue (like if u work in a kitchen or as like a firefighter or whatever) but if theres no legitimate reason for it then ... why
Company rules. She can go and look for a job else where.
A NUN WEARING VEILS : fear of god and modesty
A JEWISH WOMAN WAERING SHEITEL : they signal to their surroundings that they are married and that they comply with traditional notions of propriety.
A MUSLIM WOMAN WEARING HIJAB : disgusting and forced
WTF
"Not we - the company." So, a piece of paper desides, not people who run company! 😂
I didn't know that!
I came to here for learning english and i lost many words. LMAO. even tho i used to subtitle still don't get it.
What if the girl u rejected for wearing a scarf has better skills then anyone else 😅
Nah that won’t happen because she’s a crazy Islamic extremist
First off, thats rarely the case lol and second, let the company assess and decide. It's their fucking business, they can pick and choose how to run it.
@@aquatick1848then I think that's the first step of failing in the business community. If you want your business to grow then inclusivity and employee satisfaction does matter. So many companies got cancelled for the same reason
@@usamatariq1966 and so many companies have thrived for not allowing religious people into their firms.
@@aquatick1848 ah so youre saying that companies should be allowed to discriminate whoever they want?
That woman was rude like woman if the company wants you bald will you?
the analogy would actually mean that you can't get a job there in the first place unless your bald
If the company decides they will only hire bald people, you should not work at the company unless you are willing to shave your head.
@@minervarose7664 100%.
If you show up at a football club and are clearly overweight and the club doctor says, well you need to lose weight before we can play you, would you say that is discrimination? Would you refuse to lose weight?
The question is " define neutral clothing"?
If you want a job in any company you must obey company policy. This is a ridiculous argument. Morgan is a piece of work.
Then let's allow companies to preach Nazism as well. It's their rule. Let's allow companies to ban Jewish people from observing Jewish holidays.
i don't get why saira khan is even debating against this topic its literally comes down to morals and the amount of respect you have towards other religions
Yeah...like the way the hijabi girl respects the company rules. Right?
Exactly. Saira is a patronising gobby mare who just shouts. She has no business here
@ezeee595 Yeah....like your thinly veiled contempt for Muslims is showing. Hanna, the well-spoken young woman in hijab said, she would rather leave than remove her scarf. So slither away you serpent.
Piers interrupts everyone but he cries when he is interrupted lmao.
Religion is equal to NO LOGIC...
Be at peace, Ms. Yusuf.🙏
My respect for peers ⬆️ ❤
as a muslim, i made the biggest sigh of relief when he supported her lmao.
omg SAMEE
As A Muslim would you express your relief for Catholics could have their religious expressions in Saudi Arabia as the greatest Muslim country?
@@nikicamalezic5388 Absolutely, yes. Saudi Arabia is actually going against Islam by banning other religious expression (churches and whatnot) as, according to my understanding, a muslim nation MUST provide Christians and Jews their right to practice freely. You can see many instances of this in Egypt and other places that were under muslim control in the past. :)
@@nikicamalezic5388Who said Saudi Arabia is the greatest Muslim country?
If Saudi Arabia was trying to be the greatest Muslim country then they would be trying to recreate the caliphate
@@vp4qo I bet you do not know what sarcasm is ?
Can people wear christian cross chains, earrings etc? Isn't that religious
I'd say you can wear pretty much whatever you want as long as it doesn't "overlap" with the workplaces rules.
Like wearing shorts when working in a lab or as a nurse or something or wearing a hijab when you are working in some sort of sterile environment where you have to put on those shower-cap thingies or a whole suit (although that one may be able to fit a hijab underneath, I honestly don't know).
So bottom line is: As long as there is no valid reason as to why something should not be worn, let the employees have their right to wear what they want.
I understand your opinions but the thing about it overlapping however, us muslims cover up because it’s for Allah. Any women asked to take it off because it’s getting into the way of their work, if they know the Quran and the boundaries of Islam, would chose their religion and shouldn’t even be doing that job in the first place 😊
@DialogSL why can't you just not force someone to do something that interferes with their beliefs?
If it is not hurting anyone and not affecting the job, then what is the matter?
I say it is a matter of pride and nothing else if you want to impose your thoughts forcefully upon someone else for no logical reason.
@@DialogSL Do you know how to read? Because i never said no one is equal and i didn’t even say that they should change their rules to be lenient to religions. This video was mostly about muslims plus the guest is a muslim. I literally just said that muslims shouldn’t even be working at a job that doesn’t respect their clothing and beliefs. Read and understand my words better next time before saying some stupid stuff and putting words in my mouth.
@@DialogSL Also none of the other religions wear a hijab. Only muslims do and we do it for Allah. That is why I said “us” because that is something we do differently. It wasn’t used to say we are superior. 💀 Stupidity is overflowing on the internet
Employees also have the right to go and look for work in companies that allow them to wear religious attire.
This is Hypocysi. If you observe countries with predominantly Muslim populations, such as Saudi Arabia, there are restrictions on openly practicing other religions. However, when people move to Western countries, they expect these nations to respect and accept their religious practices.
I don't take either side, but I believe that if a company applies certain rules uniformly to all its employees, regardless of their religion, it shouldn't be considered discrimination.
They leave their country and come to west to have a better life. But they always bring their religion and try to force it on other people
Should any government make it a law for someone to come naked or completely clothed on commercial premises? Should any government ask your mom, sister, wife, daughter, or grandmother to wear something they like or dislike? Should any government ask any female to remove any cloth from her body that she herself chooses to wear?
As a Muslim, there's no right for anyone to tell Muslim woman to not wear scarfs as its a religious obligation. But if a company says they want their workers to not wear scarfs, they also have the right, so just find another company that allows it. It's not that hard, we control our own.
head scarfs have nothing to do with religion, muslim woman wear them because it's a tribal thing plus their husband force them to wear it. no where in the quran does it say they need to wear them.
Yeah but the whole point of the debate was so that the companies shouldn't be able to do that... that was the whole point of the video.
@@Ikram232 ofcos they can, its their company, we they dont like it, then just leave, its that easy
well Islam also says women are not allowed to get educated, go out and earn and behave like a property to husband.
well Islam also says women are not allowed to get educated, go out and earn and behave like a property to husband.
I see both sides. Very good recent comments here even though the vid is 6 yrs old!
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The one with the scarf looks very calm, happy, confident and secure.
I live in Québec and I think there is a weird special case that was made there. There is a law that have been pass that makes it illegal to wear any religious symbol if you are in a position of power. This included teacher, police mostly. So the law is special because it makes it illegal to discriminate Muslim women to work at a grocery/kinder garden/private company for instance, but make it mandatory to not wear any symbol for some government roles. This law doesn't apply in any place in the private sector since private corporations aren't in a position of power over citizens.
Piers clearly knows which community is more committed to saving the idea of being humans.
So giving both sides a choice isn't being human? After this ruling companies get to choose and people get to choose which of those companies they work for. What they are saying in this video is companies shouldn't get to choose and people should be able to make their own rules at those companies.
Piers Morgan is genuinely such a respectable man
He definitely is
Im not allowed to wear a cross at my work yet that lot get to go off to a special room 4 times a day to pray . Explain that to me plz
they wont. bloody woke liberals.
just mute the video play it through you can clearly see who is right here
who is it?
what if a jewish woman wears a wig for religious reasons? Will she be banned too? But another woman who wears the wig for cosmetic reasons is allowed to or what?
It's just kinda funny XDXD imagine taking this argument to a Muslim country like mine, Malaysia.
Try this in Japan bodoh
For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. [1 Corinthians 11:6]
I respect the woman wearing the hijab. She is well mannered. The other woman was just shouting with no real valid point.
It is very easy for Morgan to be righteous.
Try standing at the other side with the company policy, that will be different story.
But this is the same like many Muslim and communist country's. Muslim country's lay down head covering laws, like Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, They say ALL women have to cover their hair; and none Muslim women have to abide by these laws. I am very sure that all of you Muslim women knows about these laws in these Muslim country's; and you would say yes these none Muslim women should respect the law. You don't have no problem with these Muslim country's laws for none Muslim women but when the opposite it now done to you, YOU ALL CRY "FREEDOM OF EXPRESION, FOR MY RELIGION" I think a lot of you Muslims are "HYPOCRITES"
When have any of you Muslim women spoken out publicly for none Muslim rights in these Muslims country's????? YOU DEAR NOT as you know you will get a BIG black lash from your Muslim community and family. And I don't even think any of you care for none Muslim rights in Muslim's countries.
I really want to know if any of you Muslim women publicly speak out for none Muslim women's rights????
Cause i see that this is all HYPOCRISY.
With that being said, i do not agree with laws that demand the removal of religious clothing unless it is for safety and security reasons.
Someone pls give Saira Khan a comb
all videos are too short 😢🙏🙏😭😭
Im on the fence. I like to wear shorts and a t-shirt, is that neutral?
Apart from his ass-kissing with Cristiano Ronaldo, he makes sense in 95% of his videos. Good one Piers
Exactly, that's why I follow him for this 95%
I follow him because 99% of time brilliant, put a bit of mud on his shoes with Ronaldo but everyone can make a mistake 😉 😀 👍
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RIP Hanna
This is just hypocisy. In Saudi Arabia, they don't allow stewardess to wear burkha. Just follow the company rules.
What's wrong with the hijab by choice? Nothing wrong with it in fact its beautiful.jezz
she is not honest the head scarv is to cover hair. in the real Christianity, women used to cover their head.
amen
She isn’t lying. For her it’s for the reason she gave
Yes, 500 ago they did.
@@CaptchaNeon If its to „express her culture“ then yes, this is to cover her hair - that`s her culture she wants to express.
@@liaw3166 Yes. I don’t know why people accuse others of lying when they don’t know what each persons reasons are.
I could never really trust anyone, especially the more educated they are, when they have head coverings that must be worn because of religious reasons. Ok if you are out in the desert or it's cold and raining but really INSIDE, seriously!! It implies they are not able to question religious dogma, apply reason and logic .... in my view it diminishes their intelligence. It's a great ruling for companies and all that religious symbolism can be kept for the privacy of the home.
how does the government ban a piece of cloth but enforce lgbtq into school curriculum starting from elementary??
Pierce Morgan always interrupts his guests in an unpolite way.
I live in Canada, here you can now take your drivers licence test in 7 languages but there is only one language written on our road signs (english for the whole country, except for Quebec). So if you are taking your test in a language other than what is on the signs because you don't speak or read that language, you are a danger on the road and are now behind the wheel of what could easily become a killing machine (this applies to any country in the world). There was a taxi driver who hit and killed someone and said he did not understand the road sign, thinking it was not his fault...
We also can no longer say merry christmas or other things that this country was founded on. I am all for someone from another country coming here to make Canada a better place but bringing all your cultural/religious or negative things you left behind your country for and thinking you should be able to force those things on us and change the way we are allowed to live is crap. You should go back to whatever country you came from if you think that is right and just.
Could I go to a country that does not speak english (my native language) or have the same customs as I grew up with (be they religious or not) and expect to change the people in that country? I can't wear shorts in a Muslim country for example, why not? I can in my country. There was also a big thing in the news about some kids saying they want to wear swords to school as it was part of their religion, their whole community was up in arms about it, it was a big enough issue for them that it ended up on the news. This is ludicrous!
If you come to live in my country (where I was born and raised in a certain way, with certain ideals), you assimilate, if I go to live in your country I need to do the same. If you don't like that and think you should be entitled to act as you wish, don't come here, I would expect nothing less than the same to apply to me.
Don't get me wrong, we all have choices, rights and freedoms in Canada, some of the great things about the country I live in and I am totally fine for someone who is from a different country with a different religion and culture and language to come here (my wife is from a different country with a different language, customs, culture, etc.). Again as long as people are coming here to make this country a better place FOR EVERYONE then great, welcome and nice to meet you, in general just be a good neighbour. If you can't or don't want to do that then you are not welcome here.
If I can't express my religious views in public, schools, etc. because it will somehow be the end of the world to someone who did not grow up that way, they also don't get to express their religious ways anymore. Pick a side, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, you can't have it both ways, either no one can express their religion in anyplace but the home or their chosen place of worship or we all can.
White people love telling people to go back to their country. Wild.
@@velocity4143 First I never said anything about a hijab anywhere or it being a negative thing if you care to re read. And I often speak with people from other countries to get to know them (my wife is from another country with a different language, culture, ideals, etc.), I try to be a friendly, welcoming Canadian (I usually say, welcome to Canada, I hope you are happy here) and alot of people from other countries complain and say how they hate Canada because it is not like where they came from but they just finished telling me how terrible it was in their home country after I ask what is like to live where they grew up (this is the "bringing negative" things part).
Second, again if you care to re read and not cherry pick to turn what I said into something bad for whatever reason, I strongly believe that everyone should have personal freedom of choice for how they dress, their religion, political and ideal views as long as they are not forcing them on others around them who also have their on ideals that may be different (like how a smoker don't see that they are effecting everyone around them or usually care but expect others to always wait for them to smoke, stand outside with them in the cold, stop at the store so they can go buy smokes, stink up everything they sit on or places that go into, this is 100% forcing their ideals and choices on others and is a perfect example of what I am trying to say, most Canadians do not smoke, a very small percentage do and effect everyone else's way of life here).
Third, there are many people around the world who are forced to dress, act and believe in a certain way based on religion or political ideals of others around them.
Forth and again, like I said before, come to Canada and make it a better place, respect that you are the new person to an established way of life and that you should be fitting in with Canada's way and not the other way around. If I move to another country I would expect to do the same for the people and way of life there.
Fifth, when I HAVE TO change how I greet someone during a holiday (that I grew up with in this country) because someone from another country with different ideals might not like it, that's the crap part, when I have to drive on the road with others who might not understand the road sign because they can now take the road test in 6 other languages that are not on our road signs, (making them a total danger on the road to others), that is also crap.
Come here to be a good neighbour, be friendly, do your best to help out your fellow Canadian, while respecting the next persons choice and privacy and you will be welcomed with open arms, if you don't want to do those simple things (common courtesy), don't come here.
Sixth, you bring up drag shows in preschools? Umm...? Preschool is for learning about shapes, colours and how to become more social with other kids, sexuality and especially cross-dressing should never be part of that.
You know Jesus was from the middle east.
I'm confused, how does the language change the signs? Isn't that one of the purposes of using symbols instead of words? I mean my country has 4 languages and pretty much no one speaks all of them
@@arroe8386 Well the English language is based on romanized letters (Latin basically), but if you only read Thai, Japanese, Korean, etc. for just a few examples, the letters or characters are completely different and could quite easily pose an extreme danger to those on the road with another driver who cant read the signs. Yes the number or symbols have been thought out well enough to hopefully have anyone understand their meaning but the large green signs (for example) that tell you what road or exit is coming up for could cause someone to cross multiple lanes at the last second, causing those behind to have to break hard and maybe cause an accident. Then I am in Canada and those used to driving in the USA and crossing the border (again, another example) could also mistake our speed limits as a much higher speed because of not being able to understand what KM means.
These could be other issues as well but these are just a few.
If I was going to drive in another country (and I have before) I would make sure that I was familiar with the local laws and could read/understand all road signs before I did so. After all, I am not only taking my own life into my hands when behind the wheel but also my passengers (whom I love very much and are super important in my life) and those around me who are sharing the road with me. Should I make a mistake and possibly cause an accident, people could die, including my passengers or myself. I would have to live with that for the rest of my life. Ask yourself, is it worth that risk simply to allow more drivers on the road to get more tax money?
If you cant safely drive, park, reverse a vehicle then you have no business driving at all. Yes there are accidents, people are not perfect but simple steps taken to greatly reduce those risks are obvious and should be mandatory.
Everyone should be REQUIRED to pay $2000 or more to take a 3 or more month driving course and it should be hard enough that you very well might fail the first time and have to do it over again. Then you should have to pay to take a written test every 5 years to stay up to date on new laws (there never where any traffic circles in my city growing up, now they are common but people still have no clue how to use them and I see near misses while using them all the time).
Make it expensive and difficult to get a drivers licence (including being able to read and understand the signs) and the roads will be much safer, road rage will be close to nil and people will treat driving like it should be, a privilege, not a right. They will see value in how hard it was to get a licence and not abuse it for fear of losing it and having to start over. Insurance rates will drop significantly, far less traffic, public transport would improve drastically from all those who do not deserve to drive. We all win.
Piers is a legend