Piers Morgan Is STUNNED By Ex-Teacher's Views On Islam: "It's An Abomination!"
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2023
- Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by former teacher and devout Orthodox Christian Joshua Sutcliffe to discuss whether he was justly struck off from his profession for 'misgendering' pupils - plus Piers challenges some of his more controversial views on same-sex marriage, Islam, adultery and the death penalty.
Piers begins by sympathising with Joshua for being fired from his school for what he claims was accidental 'misgendering' of a pupil. Joshua says it was an honest mistake and claims gender identity is a difficult issue to keep abreast of.
However, as the interview continues, Joshua starts to share more and more distasteful views, including calling Islam an 'abomination', criticism of same-sex marriage and the view that adultery and other sins should be punishable by death. Piers shuts down all these beliefs and discredits Joshua's attempt to defend them.
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I am Muslim and I am not offended that he has such a view about Islam. Just because he views Islam negatively that does not make Islam a bad religion. I am sure if he read more and knew more about Islam he would change his views. I am proud to be Muslim and I hope to die as a Muslim. Islam is such beautiful religion that teaches you everything that you need to be peaceful and content in life. I could go and on…. I just wish this man would open his eyes and read more
Crying to read your comment ❤
@a.c.gaming7452 don't judge the religion by the people. They're often wrong. Hope all can read the message of Islam as it is instead of what is being portrayed and incorrectly practised by some.
@@a.c.gaming7452 when you say every Muslim of your customers is miserable, then maybe all your customers are miserable because your business seems bad as customer service, or maybe its just a coincidence. Better judge is by learning Islam and by diversifying experience.
@@stocks9662 was more of a question Maby abit over the top but many customers suggest Islam to me and form my point of view most seem miserable so I say why ? And I say if you were more happy ect Maby I would look at it and consider it if you know what I mean
@@stocks9662 and don’t get so afffended only a comment and the customers love our service so defo not that
He got sacked for addressing a girl as a girl. Strange world we live in.
The world ended in 2012. It has to be.
@@Emma-yg2uf makes sense, that's when a lot of new IDIOLOGIES took flight into mainstream.
no thats not entirely true if it were it would be stupid, he also got the sack for hating muslims and openly saying it and he also hates gays and lesbians, these things all contribute to his sacking
@@navpreetsingh8156 ironic cause Muslims hate gays
He got sacked not for addressing a girl as as girl..he got sacked because he stupid, disrespecful to others and misguided..no one dies for some one's sins everyone is accountable for his actions
I can conclude that this one brave man. The west desperately needs more like him
He’s a closeted evangelical who spews anti-🏳️🌈 (and anti-Muslim) hate.
How is Piers shocked by fundamental Christian teaching. The guy did not say the people should be killed. He said sin leads to death, which it does. This is the problem when you keep interrupting Piers, you miss the point entirely.
I’m Muslim and this guy agrees with us more than he thinks 🤣🤣
What is a muslim? Do you know the definition of the word MUSLIM?
@@magnejohansen9640 what’s that got to do with anything
@@magnejohansen9640 A person who submits to the will of God.
@@magnejohansen9640 Someone who fully submits to the will of God ,Known as ALLAH SWT
U are actually an indian Tanatani drama
Level 100 challenge for Piers: Letting someone finish their sentence
He didn't want him to finish his sentence because he wanted to frame the teacher as an extremist basically. If he had finished his sentence it would have been clear he wasn't saying people should be stoned to death.
he was gobsmacked didn't see the abominations bit coming
He's just awful and sometimes I wonder why I watch him!
@@olihallam9667 Agreed
@@olihallam9667 A man came to Allah's Apostle while he was in the mosque, and he called him, saying, "O Allah's Apostle! I have committed illegal sexual intercourse.'" The Prophet turned his face to the other side, but that man repeated his statement four times, and after he bore witness against himself four times, the Prophet called him, saying, "Are you mad?" The man said, "No." The Prophet said, "Are you married?" The man said, "Yes." Then the Prophet said, 'Take him away and stone him to death." Jabir bin 'Abdullah said: I was among the ones who participated in stoning him and we stoned him at the Musalla. When the stones troubled him, he fled, but we over took him at Al-Harra and stoned him to death. Sahih Al Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Number 806
I would be perfectly happy letting this respectable, god-fearing man teach my children Christian values. There is nothing wrong with saying that.
Like it or not, Christianity is based on the new testament where Jesus specifically says " I am the truth, the light and the way". He also said, " I have come to complete the law, not abolish it. People love to cherry pick lines from the old testament such as stoning people. Jesus also said, " let he who is without sin, cast the first stone", he also said, " If your eye causes you to sin, pluck out your eye, better to go to heaven with one eye, than hell with both eyes". This teacher is spreading the word of God and that's his right. As a kid, we were all taught that homosexuality is wrong, then came the tolerant movement. Today, we are chopping off young kids' body parts in the name of tolerance. Where does it end. Kudos to this teacher for standing his ground.
Misgendering a student should surely fast track you into a head teacher role. Someone has got to be the adult in the room.
agreed, teachers are there to teach truth and the truth is that a person is incapable of changing their gender.
@@aimeejo3405 _"the truth is that a person is incapable of changing their gender"_ - For the sake of clarity, it's important to distinguish between gender and sex. Sex is the biological categorization between the male and female of a species based on a set of inherent and often pronounced characteristics. Whereas gender is more of a social construct created to differentiate groups of individuals, usually on the basis of sex, and include things like perceived roles, attitudes, norms, values, relationship between the different sexes, etc.
Interestingly, the concept of more than two genders have existed long before modern society and its current day preoccupation with it in these culture wars. Tribes and old cultures from places as varied as Mexico, to India, Indonesia, even certain Native American tribes, etc have had concepts about genders that go beyond the binary.
It's easier to change gender, as a social construct, than it is to change the biological sex that we were born into. But now, even science have made it possible those physical changes. So whether or not we agree with the notion that a person can be a man, woman, or neither, regardless of their inherent characteristics, it's not as simple as saying "you can't change what you are".
@Chris Albert Gender is determined before birth.
Male and Female. There is nothing else. One can't magically change to the other.
@@ChrisAlbertH47 Stop spreading this nonsense. Absurd.
@@ChrisAlbertH47oh Science has come far enough to put a working uterus and Eggs in a man so he has a monthly menstrsl Cycle and a real vagina that gets wet when he gets aroused and he can give birth through?
Sick
At least he is consistent with his view on the Bible; he isn't hypocritical like some other Christians who cherry-pick the Bible and reinterpret it to fit their own views
Read ‘is God a moral monster?’ By Paul Copan
Save he does exactly that.
The Bible is a quite disgusting document, and encourages and instructs slavery and genocide. This so-called teacher is an abomination. Perhaps capital punishment for fundamentalists should be on the table?
His faith is based on the Bible and Islam was established after the Bible.
@@IanWright-jd8zk Which "bible?" You have competing texts combined, rewritten, and even denouncing one another.
We have some of the earlier material the biblical mythologies are based upon so should he not follow them by your rationale?
Best to just dispense with such evil fairy tales.
Never expected to see Piers stick up for Islam. Massive respect
He’s done it many times
He is scared
You’re naive if you think he stuck up for Islam. He’s controlled opposition, he condemned his guest for executing adulterers - In Islam, adulterers are executed as well, so basically Piers attacked Islam indirectly.
The Christian is apologetic, his answer should’ve been: If the adulterer is proven to be guilty then he deserves execution.
We all know in Islam that you need multiple witnesses or a confession to make the execution happen - Which is rare, so we conclude that the death penalty in this case is to protect the society from publicizing adultery, which is what’s happening now in the west, in where they even brag about cheating.
@@V12509 I don’t disagree with you, but consider the mainstream depiction of Islam. Most westerners have little problem with lying about it so long as it demeans the religion. Having a bit of nuance, is, at the very least something. Are you a Muslim yourself?
@@legoyoda645 Yeah well you got fooled, they gave you two bad options, one is worse, so the other one looks good comparatively. You compared fabricators with Piers, and chose Piers as the good. This is like comparing the very bad cities of The West Bank with the bad Arab cities of Israel, some people claim “We’re better under occupation, look at The West Bank” - Well, no, both are bad, one is simply worse (By the way, the problems in Palestine are from the Arab’s own doings, them and their gangs are doing all the dirty work in the Arab community, the occupation just stares and laughs. The occupation is actually the last problem in there).
Yes, alhamdulillah, I am a Muslim.
I agree and support this teacher 100%
As a muslim, i’d say I hope he learns about true islam one day and not what media feeds you.
No, I object.
I hope he never learns anything and enjoy watching him rotting in hell ever after.
There is no excuse to be stupid and ignorant… he’s not either
Agree
😂
You mean the one where its ok to marry 6 year olds?
Really? And what truth is that exactly?
I had a student CLAIM that I called him a lesbian. This caused big problems for me, but then all the other students said it wasn’t true, so that ended it. As turns out, he identifies as a unicorn. This is all true.
Jesus, I feel for you. Shame these children don’t see the difference between “their truth” and the actual truth. Good luck mate 👍🏻
Students are taking the Mackey, poor bloke! The authorities are disgraceful!
Needs to be in a psychiatric ward not a classroom.
This LGBT movement are affecting kids at a young age..Don't invoke God's wrath, we all know what happen to Sodom and Gomorrah!😊👍
This world needs God. We are quickly on the way to hell in a hand basket.
7:14 “for the gospel is foolish to those who are perishing, but to those who are being saved it’s the power of God”
im a muslim but i like this quote from francis, makes perfect sense in the current age we are living in
“A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us.”
― St. Antony the Great
Meanwhile in China, kids go to their classrooms, sit down, and learn about math, algebra, trig, chemistry, biology, etc and so forth... meanwhile, in the United States and apparently wherever this fella teaches , they learn about this stuff. 😐😐
They also learn to worship the Party
I’d rather be educated than be delusional with woke nonsense the West promotes.
Yup, and they also have child labor which may have even helped build whatever device you just commented with :)
England
@@jackgoff4859 and you. And me. Without China we're f*cked. We judge but.....
Yet Piers and the whole media does not ask Islamic teachers the same questions!!!
I wonder why?!!
Classic prejudiced bias
Islam kill gays and women who don’t wear a hijab. It’s evil as hell itself
I'm a muslim and I used to teach and never thought for a second that any religion is an abomination and we do believe in Jesus and Virgin Mary... it's sad how things went
Well said
You know what Piers, doing your own show was the best thing you ever did. I like you because you always speak sense. Im so glad you dont go along with all the craziness and speak out.
this aged too well now with hamas
@@ahmedasharaf5840do not forget Isre l also
BOOOOO!
He doesn’t speak sense he just never lets anyone finish their point so he can label others as the crazy ones
I love it so much because my religion has been talked about a lot over the past few decades. Take it easy, you will not be sued for copyright by anyone. We see it as free advertising. Besides, I guarantee that if you make a video about Islam, whether it's positive or negative, you'll get a lot of viewers. We are proud of our religion and love to see people talk or learn about it.
I’m an educator of almost 25 years now and I can say this with complete confidence, when a student asks you your beliefs or opinion on matters of religion and politics, you should never share them. It’s really not that difficult. My students do not know with certainty what my beliefs are because they are mine alone.
Why should you hide it??
@@shoutatthesky the same reason you want trans people to keep their views to themselves. See?😊
So an open gay can be a teacher, an open christian can't?
@@shoutatthesky because the world is absolutely fucked now. Why would this teacher want to tell these “kids” his views when he can get in trouble for saying girls or boys instead of them or they for example. It’s nort worth it!
@@shoutatthesky Because you are at a work, representing a school. Hired to teach knowledge not oppinion
Don’t agree with what he says but at least he has the balls to follow Christianity properly and not just pick and choose parts of it and then celebrate Christmas.
That’s the difference between the religions and Islam lool . Islam remained the same 😂😂 those books really ARE that barbaric
Absolutely. Let's have more Old Testament people in the 21st Century 😂
Why not take the best ethical parts of the religion and leave the obvious supernatural mumbo jumbo out? I would prefer the people who have the balls to do that.
I love how Piers says he's Catholic and then denounce what Catholics actually stand for in his criticism of the teacher.
You know in Islam and Christians both belive in jesus right
He claims that he was removed from teaching because he “used the wrong pronoun,” but my guess is there were several other issues that came up along the way. It’s also unlikely he didn’t add on further lecturing after “messing up” the pronoun. I don’t believe for a second that he kept all of his other views and rants to himself the entire time he was teaching. While I’m definitely for saying what you think and sticking up for your beliefs, I’d have taken issue with it being brought up in my kid’s school, too.
Yeah. It's pretty obvious that he is not telling the whole story. Cause he knows what he did. Whatever it is. And that its not good.
Every individual has the right to be respected, no matter what idiocy society is going trough. Society needs to protect the children from themselves, because they don't have the maturity to make choices that they may not like later.
As a Muslim I thank Piers Morgan for standing up for me.
Hi! I'm a lapsed Catholic and have great respect for Islam.. I consider myself Christian but no longer attend any catholic church as the bible states to "come out of her" if I am unsatisfied or if heresy is being preached..as a former Catholic we are used to verbal attacks from other faiths (especially protestants😊)...I know for a fact that islam is extremely welcoming to new converts and I saw how generous Muslims in Dublin are to homeless people❤❤
@@td2539
Many thanks for your kind words.
Rarely spoken these days.
I wish more people were as pragmatic you.
@@td2539thank you we appreciate you alot ❤️
Are you gay?
"I was accused of using the wrong pronoun"
Surely this insanity must stop...
Is that all you took from the whole video?
@@Lezrozen94 that was the point he wanted to comment about mate
Amongst other things he tried to avoid mentioning. He went on TV prog ''This Morning'' and identified the student 2 days before the disciplinary hearing. He wanted to get the media on his side. He had other serious issues relating to directing the children to his podcasts....in effect using his position of teacher to 'groom' kids into his extreme religious ideology.
He’s talking sh1t, mate. That wasn’t the only reason.
"men dressing up as women equals grooming" surely this insantiy must stop...
So a teacher goes with biological science and the board of "education" fires him
Employee refuses a reasonable request from his employer and is fired.
@@SamS-uv2ql reasonable request 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@barrywilliams3147 Yeah. Address this service user in x way.
Very reasonable.
@@Aprilforevergreen why? Is it because he's a Christian
Ignorance, right?
Literally the first thing I thought when he spoke was, he's gay. How wrong was I 😂
He probably is though.
of course he is. He said he was the biggest sinner of all.@@dquinn1988
I was about to comment this and wondered why he was against the pronoun stuff… then he turned out to be brain washed by religion and says gay people are an abomination and believes they should be executed.
As a fellow gay, I can confirm that my gaydar is ringing off the scale and I do in fact still believe he is gay. He seems so far in the closet that he’s in Narnia. Definitely in another world.
A few years ago in my country, some parents raised a concern about teaching children about hell in religious class ( we have religion classes here, but parents can opt out ). Now the issue was framed that children should not know about hell becouse it is traumatic... they should be teached about doing good and stuff... the Christian teacher responded that this would make the class from a christian class to a secular morality class. You can not teach christianity without talcking about hell, sin and devils.
Exactly
Misgendering someone should get you an award for teacher of the year.
Misgendering someone is using the opposite pronoun to their born sex
The thing i find strange about him saying "4 abominations" and including islam is that he doesn't include Judaism. Jews reject the trinity and reject jesus even as a prophet. Jews can go inside a mosque but not a church as they consider it to be idolatry so why only 4 abominations?
These guys never criticize Jews. We know why?
They’ve been hardwired this way, as you said Jews outwardly reject Jesus even as a prophet, they don’t believe In ther trinity, In fact a lot are disgusted by it as it means polytheism yet some of these Christians don’t have that against Judaism.
Zoinism has enslaved christianity. Thats why These christian redirect their anger at islam instead
Judaism is the Old Covenant which leads to the New. The Bible is clear that the time will come when they will accept Jesus as the Messiah. As for Islam, it is not a true Covenant at all. Its a false creed which stems from false revealation.
They are scared of Jews and this guy is opportunist and that's why he attacked Islam.
I would not want to send my child to this teacher... or would want him anywhere near my children
Morgan is absolutely clueless on this. He never let Joshua set his case out. He just interjected with his misguided warped theology that is personal to himself. An absolute masterclass in how not to engage with someone. Well done Joshua.
Piers didn't want him to finish his sentence because he wanted to frame the teacher as an extremist basically. If he had finished his sentence it would have been clear he wasn't saying people should be stoned to death.
It certainly seemed that way. I was disappointed in Piers. I thought he would have allowed the young man to answer a question. This was ‘RAPID. FIRE’ questions. Shameful. Piers knows better.
How u say that.he is basically saying that people should be stone to death 🙄🙄
@@kamalabout9640 No he was preaching the Gospel which Piers Morgan as a Catholic should know. In the old testament it says all sinners should suffer the death penalty. The Gospel is that God sent Jesus to save us from that death. As everyone is a sinner in this world. Jesus lived a perfect life without Sin and then was killed on the cross as payment for our Sin and then rose from the dead . Therefore no one has to suffer the Death penalty as long as they believe in Jesus Christ and repent. He paid for our Sin so we can have eternal life in Heaven. He also wasn't referring to being stoned to death on earth but when we die are Judged by God we can still have eternal life in Heaven instead of our soul being destroyed by being cast into Hellfire. This is what Christians believe and is where Christianity differs from Judaism and Islam, in which if any Sin was committed during a lifetime God will not be able to forgive. As the debt(sin) has to be paid. That is without believing in Jesus who has paid the debt for us and ofcourse in Judaism they don't recognise Jesus as Messiah and he is not part of there religion, and in Islam they don't believe in Jesus as Messiah but as a Prophet of God.
Framed? Really? You didn't see what he referred to Muhammad as? Is there any better way to describe that so-called orthodox Christian?
@@anukrite.rajvanshi I was referring to the be stoned part really. What did he refer to Muhammad as?
As a Muslim I hope Allah gives him guidance & forgiveness.
Well he has as much evidence of the existence of his God as you do in yours (which yours is just a bi product of christanity) which is no evidence on both parts. He probably hopes you find Jesus, because if it's all real you are going to Hell for worshipping an idol.
However don't worry because it's all bullshit. I just find it funny when two religions meet, it's like two children in a playground, one screaming the fairy at the end of the garden is in charge and the other yelling NO! It's the leprechaun at the end of the rainbow! Both are fools.
ameen
Ameen
As a non Muslim I just hope that You leave your religion of terror
Ameen
Now I know there's hope for England. That a Teacher like this exists!
Piers is obviously a heathen.
Did anyone notice how Piers defends adultery with zeal?😂
Piers should have let him finish what he was saying, and listened to him. Piers did not hear what the man said.
Stoning people for adultery? Putting all sinners to death? He needs to set up his own little cult.
@@ksc743 No, that is not what the man said, not one single bit. He was telling Piers the gospel, that all sin is punishable by eternal death, because all sin against God invites death.
With only the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross being what takes away that sin, and takes away that penalty.
The Bible says this: " Those who do not believe are *condemned already*, but those who believe stand not condemned but have eternal life"
@@ksc743 in the west u can murder someone and not get a life sentence that is actually crazy
@@KezzaTianzun If you want to live under an archaic theocracy that killed millions of people in the past like the Roman Catholic Church, get out of civilized secular society and form a new civilization with the rest of your extremist friends
He's chums with Andrew Tate, who is a recent convert to Islam. He doesn't want to upset the apple cart.
Since when did they stop teachers having a life and an opinion beyond the classroom?
i think saying as an opinion @ 8:30 in the video all sins require the death penalty would be a bit worrisome to most people... you know.. most people don't support religious genocide.
Since teens are on the internet dunbass
Probably when he started bringing it into the classroom? Try to keep up John
When it brings harm to others. This man should be nowhere near children. He’s an absolute fruit loop!
@@spodface12 Yeah, but let's not take everything at face value.
As it has been already shown in the Dantes Inferno, there is a hierharcy of sins, some are worse than others and the worst one is portrayed to be betrayal. Genocide would be betrayal of humanity, which is contradictory to "all sin should be punishable by death".
I don't dare to say that I believe in God, I believe in the balance of justice and mercy. Too much mercy and there are no standards for appropriate behaviour, too much justice and everyone would get squashed by ideological perfection. We are all falliable, so neither extreme is the right choice, balanced versions of both make us function and act within a frame. I think we need limitations, but too much of that and life gets unbearable.
I like to compare that to work, micromanaging is bad, checking on your employees work once in a while is okay and even necessary and unlimited freedom-forgiving everything leads to you going out of business.
And so many teachers are openly teaching gender identity beliefs to young children - that is an abomination Pierce
I am high school teacher. I never reveal to my students my beliefs. This is not my job. My job is to teach chemistry not what I believe. In my country there is no significant woke agenda, but if someone demand from me to call him they, or zei, I would not comply but I would be very polite and diplomatic and I will inform his parents. It is not productive to react to psychologically disturb people. The need medication not debate.
I'd rather have a Teacher with strong convictions & Morales than one with none!!
Did you watch long enough to see this ‘teacher’ with morals ranting & raving at people in the street? He’s the village idiot masquerading behind religion to justify his hatred of anything he doesn’t understand.
I'd rather have a teacher with empathy and compassion than one who would judge people as abominations
Unless you happen to be a gay or Muslim student; then teacher ranting ABOMINATION wouldn't go down well.
Ku Klux Klan members would fit that description
A very nice mane with morals!!!
If anyone was disrespectful it was Piers.
Piers just got done blasting a Muslim doctor for having the exact same views, but here he is having a respectful conversation with this Christian man.
He is free to have opinions about other beliefs. He only had to be careful about his language and choice of word.
Preventing people from criticizing other ideologies and actions will lead the society to a dead path
I could say Christianity is all wrong and terrible religion. That is my opinion.
Why does he have to be careful with his words? Oh Jihadists. Yet another point why Islam is the mother of bad ideas.
I don't think I've ever seen once of these interviews where Piers doesn't talk twice as much as the guest.
It’s his show, I think he has orders from his producers to talk more than the guest and to be more overbearing, provoking and irascible than he probably would be off air. I imagine he is that way naturally, but def amps it up even more
Piers always talks over every guest!! That's what he does!
@@DHU11 is this sarcasm? Becuase this is such a dumb take
He talks more than the guest because of the sensitivity of the topic. It cuts him Pierce real deep when he is confronted about the equality of every sin in God's eyes. He does want to accept it and therefore he resorts to overwhelming the guest with a bunch of words.
The wrong pronoun!!!! OMG how can they expect us to be tolerant when they aren't back at us.
It's so true though! They have people walking on eggshells around them. They're ultra-intolerant of any opposing viewpoint whilst demanding acceptance and tolerance! Complete brain-dead people. You can identify however you like but you shouldn't force people to partake in your mental illness. If people choose not to partake, in a respectful way, you should be tolerant of their life choices!!
It wasnt that simple....... there were a lot of offensive things on the side
@@joseescobar3703 such as?
@@lastjellyontheplate8828 yelling on the street on the weekends. Lol
@@joseescobar3703 On his own time.
"I am a CAT!" Says the student.
"Okay...so what do I call you then?"
He doesn’t even know the rules of Islam
Piers sounds pretty New Age in this exchange. He was gaslighting the entire time, he couldnt even look the man in his eyes when he was insulting him like a real man should. There is a big difference between calling a persons actions/beliefs an abomination and actually calling that person an abomination.
This conversation further proved to me how religion humiliates those who appear to be smartest in other matters. Religion is clearly not Piers forte, but he somehow thinks his confidence and loud voice will submerge his ignorance.
This loon thinks being gay is an abomination -- Morgan is quite right to question him on his prejudices. he's obviously a complete weirdo even if he attempts to pretend to be normal in this interview lmao
@@kenid4144 So true.
Your not wrong, but Morgan’s point was if he was compatible as a teacher, not if he’s entitled to these views or not.
@@tannerbryan1890 But why should Piers Morgan be compatible as a journalist or show host? Is he the standard of truth? What if the woke left wants to cancel Piers from ALL media houses because of his opposition to gender identities he calls absurd...just like Piers want to cancel this teacher from classrooms?
I praise piers for sticking up to Islam ❤
Me too. Very honest and honorable man.
Have u not realised he doe’s because he knows ur submissive an gullible and there’s 2 billion of you
@@krypicgaming2457 and growing
Nah man. He always stand for that blind hate is wrong, fact or hard truth. In this case, this teacher blindly hate islam that needed to be fixed.
He's not sticking up for Islam. He's sticking up for nuance.
I am a Muslim
I would rather have him teaching my kids with his strong Christian beliefs, then homosexuals corrupting them
Not sure who I’d like teaching mine more a Muslim or homosexual 🤔 hopefully I’m never in that predicament 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Trust me, the world needs a new Muslim Caliphate so badly to fix all this mess!!
The world does not need a Muslim caliphate and hopefully I’ll be long gone before the world ends up that fucked up
He agrees with Islam more than he thinks not 😂
True
islam doen't encourage murdering of the sinners, educate yourself
@@abdifataahabdillahi9954 it does encourage killing of gays and anyone who has an abortion
@@abdifataahabdillahi9954 Under Islam Murderers are executed and adulterers are stoned (which I agree with).
Right 😂
Islam stands against this gender nonsense. Shame we and the Christians cannot at least stand together on this issue. We disagree we each other theologically, but we can still co-exist side by side.
Isll@m doesn't do side by side it does kaffur and dimmitude and jeshur tax ...
Safe to say Joshua would be long dead if he tried preaching in Saudi. Talk about co-exist
christianity is a cult. and as every cult they need to missionize others and cant coexist.
@@anthonyprince8090 have anyone been killed in Saudi Arabia for simply talking? Can you show any evidence of this happening
@@Bobbatea-75 are you saying you can openly preach Christianity in Saudi Arabia safely?
First i thought why he was fired for just the pronoun stuff and it slowly devolved into insane and for God's sake this is a maths teacher🙄🙄😕😕🤣🤦🤦🤷🏼😖
Boy... I did not see that coming
As a Muslim i dont think anything wrong if he thinks Islam in a negative way. Just because he has such views doesnt mean the whole community is like that. We all are free to have opinions.
Your faith must be so dear to you that you let other people walk all over it.
@@jrs944 Most of them don't. It's nice to know not all of them are extreme. Look at it in a positive way.
@@jrs944 don’t be a fragile religious believer, this is why many people globally think Islam is a barbaric religion because as soon an somebody SAYS anything negative about Islam, it must be addressed with hate and violence.
Just like Muslims are taught to believe that every other religious believer is an infidel, it’s natural for Christians to also believe that Islam has strayed away from the truth and indeed is abomination. this does not mean we should hate them, or kill them for ‘disrespecting’ our beliefs. Your faith should be inwards, not a public display of violence and anger.
A lot of muslims call Christianity an abomination. The person's opinion doesn't make it an abomination, just like this man's opinion doesn't make Islam an abomination
@@blase057 Yeah. But also Jesus wasn't a warlord and didn't marry a 12 year old either. Those details are kind of important.
I think this teachers downfall was he forgot there is no more freedom of speach in this country.
I’m an ex hindu and so is my wife. We are both proud to be Muslims now alhamdullah ❤
Welcome into our beautiful ummah
I'm a revert too ❤️
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Massive respect for this fellow Christian
Agree
are you serious?????????
A Christian man who’s sticks to his principles, very rare and courageous. Well done 👍
he is rather a big hypocrite, since he calls Islam an abomination, I'm no fan of islam the religion, but if he thinks about it when it comes to the sins on both books, they are quite identical lol you can't be a religion of peace and advocate violence, this is why all religions are stupid.
@@illidanisdead6924 LOL, are you saying that Jesus was a warlord who massmurdered entire tribes, executed hundreds of prisoners of war in cold blood, enslaved thousands, and used them as sox slaves?
Did Jesus appropriate the 6-year old daughter of his cult minion as wife when he was 50? And consummate it when she reached 9 years?
Did Jesus abolish adoption forever, in order to justify marrying the wife of his adopted son? Who was his first cousin btw, explaining all the cousin marriages in places like Pakistan.
Is such a Jesus projected as the ideal human for every believer to emulate?
I disagree with the other three being abominations, but he is spot on with this one.
@edda green Christians used to kill women because they believed in there wicked ways these women are witches horrible sinners . And let's not forget pedophiles prest raping young boys
Huh? All sin requires the death penalty? You're nuts
A bigot. I think he’d have been burning people at the stake if he’d lived in the 1500’s.
I dont think this ex teacher knew what he was getting into when piers invited him on the show.
@@johnlennox-pe2nq the lips point is more related to narcotics than nerves. high end stimulants give you lip smacks like that
He did well if you listened carefully. Piers has to make himself holier than everyone else but through his raised voice, the teacher spoke the good news. Piers missed it, as he always does.
@@stevenosiokpekhai9053 Very true.
probably had a pre-chat with him to make him feel comfortable and safe about doing the interview and then put on the kathy newman mask
@@johnlennox-pe2nq see him wriggling all over the sofa on ''This Morning'' 2017, telling gay Shofield that homosexuality is an ABOMINATION. Scoffie not best pleased. His tagline intro is ''sacked for mis-gendering'' when in fact there's a list of far worse issues.
I didn't understand when Piers Morgan said ''gay marriage should be between a man and a woman.''
How does Piers say he's Catholic then say Jesus dying for our sins is "nuts"??
I'm an atheist, but clearly when this guy says sinners should be killed he is speaking metaphorically. As he said later about himself, it is up to God to kill him for his sins. Unfortunately there are certain religions that literally are stoning women to death for their 'sins', throwing certain people of buildings for their 'sins', and killing apostates for that 'sin'.
Sure, he meant it “metaphorically” sure he did
@@victorrancor90 Did you watch the video? Piers asked him, if he was a sinner why he wasn't killed. He answered, it's up to God. Only an idiot would think he meant a human should go and kill an adulterer for their sins. He is talking about being punished by God.
@@victorrancor90 of course he did, did you even listen to it properly?
Doesn't make him any less of a twat.
Shhhh you can't point out the mortal abominations of religions other than Christianity coz dat's wAyCiSsSsSt!!!
I'm Muslim and Islam is very similar to Christianity. This ex-teacher needs to read more books!
some similarities at least in the Old testament which they don’t practice in any way, shape or firm. The big difference is their 2 abominations that they believe in: the trimity and and that Jesus is the Son of G-d.
not really, Islam is what Christianity was 500 years ago and needs massive reforms in order to be suitable for the modern civilized world. we need to criticize and scrutinize Islam until it reforms like Christianity has.
@@millennium677 progressive heretic those are the mainline churches christianity needs to socially revert to be more similar to islam in that sense
@@millennium677 Examples? If you mean allowing gay iman's in the mosque than no thank you!
@@BlackPanther-qo2tv burning atheists alive for being infidels or hanging homosexuals has to change, 300 million Muslims are radicals that absolutely despise the western world. it is Muslims job to deal with these radicals especially if they want to live in a white western country, im not exactly the worlds biggest fan of homosexuality myself but they shouldn;t have to burn alongside my infidel self.
Damn, his psychotic smile when he says people deserve to be stoned to death.
Piers being a classic example of a pretext taking what he was saying out of context
Piers forms his opinion before the show, locks it up and makes sure nobody can tamper with it over the course of the debate.
and then using it to publicly damage a person's reputation in the minds of anyone still dense enough to automatically agree with piers
How ?
@@user-ot1dv6ri4f he wasnt the best at apologetics to be fair
@@Longestspring he took half of what he was saying and homed in on that half alone making what he was saying to something he was not saying
Pears please don't dominate the whole conversation,it's all about you the whole interview❤your tactics are making this interview stressful to watch .allow people to speak and don't interrupt them so frequently please ❤❤❤
Nah I think alot of people love the chaos tbh
I bet your the interviewees wife
Amen
"You must separate ideas from people"
Double standard = Big Liar 😔
Alhamdulillah for islam
My goodness. I’m not religious and even I understand the points that you refuse to allow this young man to make.
Athism actually comes from paganism. So you want to make sure which religion you follow. I advice none. Follow Jesus christ he's believed in most religions so do 1 + 1 and it's the obvious outcome. Don't be an NPC in a pagan matrix your whole life... its all they promote.
@@michaelmccarthy2369 am i understanding you correctly that any religion is the right one to follow if the most people do it? And you throw around npc when talking to a human with an open mind not even mentioning atheism?. Not religious = atheism?
Forgot about idunnoism?
But, if there is anything out there it probably wanna eat you. Or feast on your painful death.
Its a wonderful place full of suffering and pain. Loving god my ass. This is a sadist work.
A Demiurge.
Why do christians allways kill the ones speaking about this?
As the cathars and gnostics.
Tha cathars were vegetarians and refused to use force or cause harm to any living creature. So when the templar knights came, they just sat down while being slaughtered, nice huh.
Sry spelling, im a norse pagan axe swinger. For real.
@@michaelmccarthy2369 you believe in human sacrifice, gods on earth, celebrate easter and christmas lol you cant talk about paganism
@@michaelmccarthy2369 1= following no religion doesn't mean atheist as default.
2= atheism is not paganism
@Michael McCarthy christianity stole the majority of what it is from paganism and on top of that killed many pagans and passed there way of life off as witch craft. And atheism isn't from any religion its just logical people seeing the idiocy that religion is , you believe in a magic man in the sky all you want but remember you'll have to grow up sooner or later and the later i leave it the worse it will be when you realise you've lived a lie and given yourself to a falsivity.
Let him speak for Heaven sake.
Jesus is not your Lord your Lord is your God who created you,
Jesus was a man like you and a prophet
@@kamelkani4051 I understand your confusion but according to the Koran Jesus will come back at the end of time to judge the living and the dead. My question to you as a Muslim is. Why does Allah give Jesus such a big responsibility if he is just a prophet and a man, also what is so special about Jesus that no other prophet even Muhammad was considered for such a task?
I await your answer and please don't give me the "Allah knows best answer" because that shows you have refused to use the logical part of your brain.
@@Jango174 Dont mind the abduls, they are deeply ignorant, gullible and have no clue of what they say other than to regurgitate lies they have been fed with. Even sura 4:171 called Jesus word and spirit of God.
@@kamelkani4051 Do you create or give life tike Jesus? Are you sinless like him? Were you born of the spirit? Will you been taking to heaven like him and not die?
Speak what??? Shit?
I was following him and understanding his view till he said every sin is punishable by death. He also said he is a sinner so my question is why is he alive?Meaning he doesnt practice what he preaches.
Sin is obviously too complicated for Piers.
So as a teacher, you cant have an opinion anymore. Unbeatable!
Yes, your job is to teach, not to preach. If you want to teach, leave your own beliefs at the door.
You can have an opinion, but you can't preach bat-shit crazy religious nonsense in a classroom.
Keep up Fiona. When you have extreme opinions, you keep them to yourself. You don’t preach those opinions to children. This man should be nowhere near children. He’s absolutely barking!
@@mancunianmartin558 what specifically do you mean by woke ideology?
@@Typhoneus. - He did teach at a CHRISTIAN school so his views match...
Piers really did his best to purposefully misinterpret what he said here
I mean idk how do you want Piers to respond to all sins must be punished by death, personally I agree with him with the whole pronoun stuff that it shouldn’t be a thing but for him to say all sins are punishable by death is nuts as piers said, I wouldn’t be comfortable with my kids being ina classroom with him if he thinks all sins must be punished by death cuz only god is the judge not other humans
@@gqtr2141 exactly.
I'm not stunned by Joshua, as many like him reverts to Islam sooner or later. They are starting with prejudice, then they end up with deep understanding of the heavenly message.
Bro is no one in the comments gonna talk about him saying that every sin major or minor should be killed
He just quotes the bible...
If anything, I admire how Joshua stands his ground
You agree that Islam abomination?
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Yes. I agree in 3 of his abominations. I don't believe Islam is. England is a good mix of people. I think us Christian and Muslim will need to stand up against this invasive pronoun nonsense.
including standing his ground at 8:30 about all sins should receive the death penalty,
@@spodface12 you and also Piers didn´t get it. He tried to explain that all Mankind is flawed and "deserves" the death penalty as punishment. But Jesus died for our sins so we can live on and try to improve ourselves. That is basically just what the bible says.
He doesn´t say that he himself thinks that every person on earth should be executed, and even if so, by none other than god.
Sadly disrespectful to call someone 'nuts' and more than once. Gives the impression he just wants to shut down the argument rather than truly explore what the interviewee is trying to explain.
Piers is satisfying to behold when his thunderous moralizing nails a suitable target. But this is one of those cases where he just looks like a total dick. A guy just lost his career, clearly hasn't had Piers' lifetime of media training, and the issue he came to discuss gets lost in Piers' moral purity test. Sad!
Wow, and the interview started so well!
At the start, I thought, what a disgrace to throw him out for just calling a boy a girl, or whatever. But his views are extreme, dangerous and bigoted and there is no way he should be in a classroom.
Piers would really benefit from doing a bit of research and actually attempting some good faith conversations. It’s a shame he’s all about the sound bites because he could be a really good interviewer otherwise.
Well said.
It's a shame he's a total buffoon who doesn't understand productive debate at all, otherwise he has plenty of solid reasoning.
Lol I agree but this is not the right video to comment that on
The notion that he would be a good interviewer is questionable. A good interviewer begins with the ability to put their own thoughts, opinions, beliefs and attitudes in check, if not out of the interview completely. Piers doesn't and has never exhibited that ability. His interviews are literally set-ups for him to project or insert his own biases.
@@ChrisAlbertH47 At this point I find myself wondering why anybody comes on his show. "Hey, wanna come on the show so I can cut you off instantly and go on a 5 minute tirade?"
“You know, I’m somewhat of a Catholic myself” 😂😂😂
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"U THINK U CAN JEWDIS 2 ME? DO U KNOW HOW MUCH GOD SACRIFICED?!?!"
correction: we see a lot of UK and USA kids deluded by gender, not anywhere else.
This guy isn't even fit to train my dog, nevermind teach my children
The children wanted his opinion and he gave it to them in a completely reasonable way. The man wasn't teaching his views .. he was answering a question honestly.
Honesty is the new hate .
Were you there???
@@sambou6286 Of course not. That is what the guest said though. His pupils asked him a personal question and in the course of answering, one of his students realized she had become the victim of a gratuitous misgendering.
@@Deploracle It is still " his own version" of what happened...and I am finding hard to believe him anyways .The man sounds more as a hardcore extremist and I certainly don't want him to be near my kids or any kids.....he has a trait of a brainwasher... It's not easy to get fired by the ministry of education just like that, especially in the UK.
Actually you don't need to always answer the question. You can move the conversation along. I used to be an RE teacher and Is be asked what my view was on abortion. I always said it was a deeply personal thing for a woman to decide for herself and men were entitled to an opinion too. But I wouldn't give my views.
How the fuck can anyone know these days. Just wear a sign or something. Please - don't make everyone guess.
or just grow up.... sometimes ppl misspell or mispronounce my name, it aint a big deal
Lol this guy saying being Gay is an abomination is hilarious, he makes Alan carr sound like Phil Mitchell.
The campest geezer alive
As a Muslim, Id rather have my children taught by this man than the liberal leftists
I recommend you an Arab called Christian Prince because he is really passionate to show muslims the authentic Hadiths and the correct translation of quran in English and the early muslim scholars interpretation of the quranic verses.
@@unitedeurope2 hahah i kmow who christian princess is unfortunately... and hes an ignorant individual
@@asimhd1990I’m glad you know him😉👍
Your problem is that he gives references from islamic books that were fine for centuries and now you throw it under the BUS🤦
Ali Dawah 👉scientific miracles in quran DEBUNKED
Yasir Qadhi 👉 The standard narrative has holes in it (referring to the quran)
Yasir Qadhi 👉Gog and Magog he can not believe it at all (it’s in quran the story).
Even your brothers are getting al🌙lah BUSTED.
What more do you want???
As a Muslim, I think it's his right to view Islam as he wishes. I think he can be respectful to Muslims and think their religion is an abomination. Both things can coexist. People are complex and multi-faceted. He should be protected as a teacher based on his teaching merits.
Tribal diversity and multiculturalism don't make us stronger. Sharing perennially true, beautiful and good values which promote expression and synergy make us stronger. People who don't share British values and beliefs shouldn't live in Britain, much the same as Spain, France or anywhere else.
@@theutopia777 Britain doesn't have british values it used to be completely christian but the percentage of christian is declining because of how they are portrayed as regressive.
UK, USA etc are secular more than Christian
and if he didn’t you’d hunt him down like Charlie Hebdo?
@@LeonG- British values transend Christianity. British values are also shared by many groups who do actually enrich the UK. Some groups unfortunately do not. People choose their values, especially if they live as an individual. Unfortunately many groups in the uk are anti freedom and anti true individual diversity.
No, I completely disagree with you. A person who thinks Islam or any religion is an abomination shouldn't teach children. He is a radical and should be kept away from schools. We have many mullahs in Islam who share the same opinion and I think they shouldn't be teaching as well. If you hate Islam, there is no way you cannot be biased against Muslim students, and BTW that's how you nurture Radical Islamists and White supremacists.
As a Muslim - I respect this teacher. His consistent with his beliefs unlike hypocrite Piers who is Christian by name, but a secularist in action.
Why is he secularist?
As an atheist, I see you as as a subhuman.
How can you respect someone that calls your religion an abomination? You’re lost bruv 😂
I wish he articulated Christian views better, it’s such a pacifistic religion, capital punishment was legal in the Old Testament but in the new covenant that we are in under Christ, Jesus says those who haven’t sinned should cast the first stone. “The wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through our lord Jesus Christ”. All sin is punishable by death under God’s law but a criminal cannot condemn another criminal, we are all sinners and need to repent and turn to Christ to be saved.
@@woowah32 because as a Christian, he should be advocating Biblical law to govern society and not secular law.
To be fair, at least he sticks to his views. Unlike a lot of people
He had me in the first half.
hi bot
I was a teacher for 40 years. I learnt in the first year that I do NOT tell children my personal views on ANYTHING. Not politics , not religion , not ideologies even if the students ask. If school policies do not match my own ideologies ... I would either " suck it up" or leave! if you want to be an evangelist.... be an evangelist.... school is not the place for you to pontificate!
What are you even talking about? Mr Sutcliff was in my CU in my school so I knew him fairly well. He never taught Christianity in class. He was suspended because he telling off a bunch of kids who were chatting in while he was teaching math and it so happened one of those clowns identified as something else. That was literally it. Outside of class people did ask him religious questions because he sometimes talked in assemblies to invite people to the Cherwell Christian Union that he led which was accepted by the school as a legit organisation and he talked about Christianity there. He wasn't suspended for that either.
There was no such policy as don't misgender people in my school's policy. But the kid's mother went psycho on it and reported him even though he wasn't made aware of the kid's mental illness.
If asked tell the truth. What exactly are the schools ideologies? So you would compromise your own convictions. That is corrupt and weak.
This is embarrassing. Piers didn't even want to hear him out and went straight out to judge and attack. If you had your opinions formed already before the interview and your purpose was just to pin this poor man down, you might as well not have him on at all.
that is not at all what happened there.
On the other hand, Christians arguing about what is Orthodox is the most Orthodox Christian activity of all.
Spot on, Piers planned to attack him for his Christian beliefs and had no intention of allowing him to fully explain his position.
Piers the Islam apologist 👌
Piers is trying to cater for everybody 👌
Well good that he is banned. We need less teachers like that.
How can an RE teacher of 30 years be an avid Christian but simultaneously not be biased in anyway. I didn’t even know that was allowed. 🤔
If Piers wants to talk so much, why does he invite people. He should just do a ten minute show on himself.
He disgusted me during this interview...like why did he even invite him.? Peirs is an absolute dictator
This is the nature of Journalism now. Sad but true. Sound bites and superficial misrepresentations.
@@sincealdo1 He's like this with all his guests he asks them a question then shuts them down after they have said two words.