Notice how they complain about people critiquing them about their weight, yet she was the first person to call him fat in a negative way. Screams irony.
That model did botox and has a lot of makeup on, she wasn't born like that either. Doing botox needs to be addressed too in my opinion because it is destructive in many ways as well.
@@GS-ju3sr Botox and makeup are not unhealthy and will not eventually kill her with serious heart or diabetes issues. Ignoring this issue only encourages young kids to stop becoming aware of how unhealthy and obese they're becoming until it's way beyond their control and it becomes almost impossible to lose that weight for the rest of their lives. It's very difficult to get rid of large amounts of weight when you've let it go too far and it can be with you for the rest of your life.
@@ratt57 I am definitely not in favor of accepting obese as something natural and beautiful, I was just really triggered by the model's botox face for a moment and therefore I felt an urge to express my discontent with botox.
I dated morbidly obese women when I was younger (I thought I had to accept them) and they were mean! I was called fat everyday even though I wasn't morbidly obese. But it was to make themselves feel better. I will no longer date women who hate themselves that much!
@@galinageorgieva8554 asking to be glorified and accepted is what they want; getting shamed, of you want to call it that, is them simply stating facts. That's not shaming...her calling him fat that's shaming! And delusional
@@lisawentworth6831 I didn't mean he was shaming her, I meant - yes, we absolutely should not accept it, because it is not healthy physically and it is not healthy psychologically. To deal with something like that people need a lot of psychotherapy/psychological help and support, IMO. Of course their denial they have a problem is also a problem. Some people think not accepting it means shaming them and bullying them into changing their ways, which might work sometimes, but does not deal with the core problem and more often than not leads to a huge resistance and denial. I guess I should've elaborated :).
agreed we should not celebrate piers's unhealthy lifestyle. he should not be allowed a platform as it gives people the idea that it's ok to be a slob like him
@@galinageorgieva8554 It's not shaming, that's just a stupid label they give it. It's not shaming to tell someone they have a drug problem, and alcohol problem or anything like that. It's "concern" not shame.
Technically, according to most BMIs and weight charts show that 220 at 6’1” is still considered overweight. The numbers have changed over time too. So who’s making up these charts? And why can’t they all agree?
Average person thinks of a "diet" as a short-term sacrifice to lose weight quickly. In order to be successful and long-term, it needs to be a lifestyle change.
It's definitely more complex and not as simple as eating less. There is a lot of misinformation out there-- most studies around food, diet or exercise exclude women. Keto, paleo, etc diets are NOT good for women long-term bc our bodies need different nutrition during different phases of our cycle. It's called Cycle Syncing, created by Alissa Vitti, and it is a game changer for women's health.
As a plus size woman. Nothing is glorifying about being this way. I’m currently trying to lose weight and get my life together. Let’s stop this madness with this glorying body image crap
i agree with the BMI argument except lets say we calculate ronnie coleman at 297lbs @ 5' 11" which gives us 41.4 which is certified obesity however he is obviously in amazing shapd most will never achieve. still agree withe piers 100% tho
House M.D. season 3 episode 6 - Que Sera Sera A morbidly obese man refuses medical help after waking up from a coma. One of the doctors asks him "George, you ever notice you don't see a lot of obese old men?"
My mother-in-law was morbidly obese. She died at 80 years old. She could barely do anything for years and had to be wheeled around in a wheelchair. All her health problems, she blamed on everything else but her weight.
I have suffered obesity all my life, I weighed 132 kg and my height is 1.82m and I can tell you from my point of view that it is the worst nightmare you can have. My body was literally fast food garbage. I got tired when walking. I couldn't go for a walk with my friends because I got tired. My legs hurt, I had heart palpitations, I was always hungry and I just didn't enjoy life. Now, weighing 82 kg, I can say that it is the best decision I have ever made, my health improved, my life improved, so everything this woman says is pure "bullshit."
bro honestly.. nothing has changed for me.. i went from 140 kg to 90 (184cm) but my life hasnt changed.. my self esteem has been low for a long time… im glad you feel much better after losing the weight. But i think i was naive, i thought it would be a magic wand that would fix all my problems. But i think my past has left me very scarred.
but also agree on the view that beauty standards projected by media is also toxic.. I think seeing things like cellulite, normalising legitimate real healthy bodies is whats needed
There is normalisation here. There is presenting reality of all kinds of people in a video. You want media and songs to only present the most unrealistic world, while she is arguing that media should present a realistic world with all kinds of people. She is real, your way of thinking is fake.
@@Ariel-Jemima Please do not twist my words and pay attention this time. No one is saying someone "SHOULD" do anything. You do what you want if you owned a magazine or you were making a video. There is a difference between saying "This is the role model that people should follow" and between simply presenting those types of people as PART OF LIFE. My argument is for the latter. Fat people are PART of life, implying that they should not be in music videos is the most stupid thing I've ever heard and trying to justify it is even stupider.
It's so sad how delusional she is... its extremely worrying the level of denial.. I have a funny feeling she doesn't really believe herself when she says things like "I've already lived a full life".. no you haven't girl! I hope she comes round and realises there's so much more she could have and do.....😥
As an obese woman, I totally agree with Peirce. Now I have just been diagnosed with PCOS and we are working to find what works for me to lose weight. This lady in red is lazy and doesn’t want to try and get healthy and change her life. It’s all about wanting to be healthy.
If I interviewed this girl I’d genuinely just be laughing in her face the entire time… the fact that she thinks she has anything close to the slightest valid point at all is absolutely hysterical I wouldn’t be able to keep a straight face
What got me is she said she is 46. Man, it's time to have a reality check and get healthy. I get upset when I gain two pounds and don't look good in my clothes.
she has that delusion that baby fat makes you look young. I always looked at it this way; you get out of school at 18 or so and are at your peak, supposedly. When I see someone obese, I start adding x amount of years to get that fat. I don't deduct age, I add it, because it would take considerable effort to put on hundreds of pounds
When you turn 40 you can't eat what you used to eat when you were under 30. You think about eating healthy and cutting out bad foods, working out, getting a hobby.@@lisawentworth6831
The fact that the model in the studio who has the physical appearance that should be promoted way more than the obese models is humble and doesn’t see herself in a perfect way compared to the obese model speaks volume.
@@alexuswalker7366 Heart disease, diabetes, and cardiovascular problems are just some of the issues that come with obesity. These are health issues that will kill someone vastly overweight early on. You may think every body type is beautiful, but those physical issues aren't, and I have a couple of friends who are continually battling health issues due to being vastly overweight and they're not enjoying their lives. Obesity is an eating disorder, just like anorexia... claiming it's beautiful and encouraging it is only hurting those people affected by it. It's one thing to be supportive and understanding to an overweight person... but celebrating it is another matter altogether. And I can't Piers Morgan either, lol...
@@alexuswalker7366 no not every body type is beautiful let’s stop with that bull there’s an ideal body type for both sexed supported by years of scientific evidence. Come out of lala world
I was fat. I got that way from playing World of Warcraft and drinking soda. I’ve lost weight. Literally quitting soda made a huge difference. Now I try to work out here and there and be more active. I never cared about what people said. But in the back of my mind I was always disgusted with myself. Just because I knew I was unhealthy. I didn’t realize how out of shape I was until I learned that it’s not normal to feel like dying going up stairs. The greatest feeling ever was going up 4 flights of stairs and not dry heaving lol. This chick is simply trying to capitalize off of it and drive more publicity for money. I was fat and it certainly was a disease I put upon myself. Much like how my father knew smoking was a self inflicted disease of addiction. We’ve both removed these negativities from our lives. I don’t appreciate how she says she won’t even bother.
it was more than drinking soda, the past few months I've been drinking soda [Dr. Pepper] and I lost at least 8 pounds but I'm stopping it because its giving me headaches,
She is given up hope like I had for too long. I am 51 lbs lighter than I was back in Nov of 22. I got sick with the flu for 1 month it was torture but I lost 34 lbs! Then I kept going I cut out Soda, I cut out chips and candy, then added more like Lunch meat which bothered me and recently bread. I also quit pizza and chinese food which I was addicted to as well. I feel like a different person!
it sounds like you are way more self-aware. The opposite is going on in the world, and people want us to embrace their mistakes, instead of them fix them. I don't get it...
Listen!: I was an athlete when i was younger. When i started law school, i started eating snacks while studying and quit the gym. I didnt realise my weight gain until my grandmother shamed me in front of my family and told me i lost it. Instead of canceling my granny, i quit snacks, i didnt eat dinner, i picked up sports and i lost 30% of my weight in 6 months and im back to a healthy BMI. Im thankful to my granny for fat shaming me. Im healthy again and actually girls are interested in me again. I even got my health problems back under control (no more diarrhia). Beeing fat is unhealthy! Nobody should get shamed by strangers, but there no right to defendinf an unhealthy lifestyle. Same with drinking and smoking. I had my party Phase, i was drinking and smoking, but never would i have said: well everybody should be alowed to smoke and drink as long as they feel good. The mind protects yourself from harm, meaning protects yourself from criticism. But criticism, honest criticism is the only way to improve youself!
i am in the journey now, my husband was worried that if he mentioned i am fat i would get angry but it made me not like myself. I lost 7kg now and i want to get to 65kg i was 63 before pregnancy
3 minutes into the interview - Pierce, though criticising her, used his intellect and knowledge not to offend her. But, then, she called him fat, maybe 4 or 5 times ! How is this fair???
I'm 5'5" , almost 67, and weigh less than 200 lbs. I would not feel comfortable being a model because of my weight. Also, being overweight is definitely limiting.
There's a difference between being confident in who you are and pretending being morbidly obese is something to be applauded. Normalizing something that is known to severely decrease life expectancy is a dangerous trend.
If obese people can get a free second seat, then I’m gonna become obese to claim my two seats, and then resell them for like 80% market value. 60% profit for every flight
It is not. It is presenting reality of all kinds of people in a video. You want media and songs to only present the most unrealistic world, while she is arguing that media should present a realistic world with all kinds of people. She is real, your way of thinking is fake.
And bullying is the solution? How many kids will commit suicide or become anorexic after blaming and shaming them for being fat? Tough on Crime did nothing but harbored an environment for criminals to become worse. The same will happen with obesity.
It didn’t feel like an interview, rather than a group of experts studying and discussing about the morbidly obese test subject in front of them. Absolutely brilliant 😂
being in a pop video is not a problem at all, she is a big girl who was on a video and there is nothing wrong with that. it's only a problem if they're straight up telling children that this is healthy.
Body positivity was supposed to be about loving yourself, because loving yourself makes you want to take care of yourself, and you can live happily without wanting to have surgery and all the awful things people do to their bodies...body positivity was never about staying in the dangerous weight forever
Something i deeply agreed is "a buf of shame is needed" not only on the fat or physical issues, but any behavior. Not shaming the appearance, but the habit. Obesity is not body shape, it's habits, mental and emotional issues. Shame is a natural feeling, it makes us change our behavior. But it's also about the dose. Her and people like her brings us awareness. It's better than them hiding and pretending to bot exist. And this discussion is also needed. Maybe she doesn't listen or many other people, but it can save lives, can change minds, can improve society in some aspects. The things is not stop talking and to keep creating space for minimum respectful debates
It’s like you can do what you want but when you start damaging yourself like that and when you start letting people live in delusion, they start to think their delusion is reality. That’s the problem.
She can admit she's not healthy yet she can't take the responsibility she should for influencing millions of people to be not fat and unhealthy but extremely morbidly obese to the point that she's well over the suggested levels to be considered obese. It's not about being thin It's about being healthy and the sooner folks realize that the better their loves would be.
When I noticed myself getting fat and was told by my doctor that I was morbidly obese I immediately asked for advice. He suggested eating better and put me on Wegovey a weight loss injection you take once a week. Despite some nasty side effects I have gone on it because I want to do what I can to get healthy again.
It is quite awesome, that you want to be healthy again, but you don't become morbidly obese so fast. How come you didn't notice it way before that, when you were becoming obese? What I mean is, we all have a psychological issue, which is the real reason for our health problems. I am pretty sure that if you work on it the excess weight will go away a lot easier.
@@galinageorgieva8554 I knew I was fat the moment I saw vacation pictures from last year. I suffer from depression and I tend to eat too much because of it. I was also downing oreos like no tomorrow but then one day I looked in the mirror at my belly and butt and thought I have to do something. I had no idea it had gotten this much out of control. So I went to my doctor for help.
@@DestinyPifer I meant the real psychological reason/s for all of it -depression, overeating, maybe more. It might be very, very deep. I just found out mine(literally today. I had other theories, but turns out I was wrong). It was the cause of my chronic health problems, anxiety, etc and am starting to work on it. I suggest Alex Loyd's codes or whatever resonates with you, something that will really deal with the core problem and not just with the symptoms. BTW, I also get depression, when I eat wheat foods, that's why I had to stop them. Best of luck, I wish you to get to the bottom of it, feel great and be healthy.
Diet has a 95 percent failure rate? Examples She failed to put the box of doughnuts away She failed to order a salad She failed to choose water over soda She failed to not over eat She failed to take morning walks She failed to pass on the butter
As someone who was actually bullied and singled out by my own aunt who would say things at family parties infront of people like "If you eat that you will get fat!" every time! Even when I had just gotten there and was eating the first bite. That is what I lived with for years she also told me that I was fat and ugly unlovable and that no man would ever want me! So to me that is fat shaming. The dif between telling someone they are unhealthy and that you are worried about them is dif than what my aunt did to me. So fat shaming is not the right word to use. I don't know how she thought she was gonna help me. She claimed years later she was trying to keep me from being like her in school! She caused me to become an emotional eater it was the only outlet before her bullying tactics I was not as into food. I was 90 lbs at 12 years old not fat at all and with a good appetite. Not too much food! Then my hormons hit and so did thyroid issues. I gained a little weight and then she started in on me. People need to understand that words have an affect on people even years later. I topped 300 lbs in October of last year. In December at the end of the month for a whole month I wa sick with the flu pretty much bedridden. I lost 34 lbs before I even knew it. God proved to me that I could lose weight. I kept taking out things that were bad like soda and candy and chips to start with. Added more and more to it. I have lost a total of 51 lbs! I'm going for a total of 99 lbs now.! I know I can do this with God's help! I feel so much better folks there is such a dif between the me in Oct and me now! I have hope and I have control over my own body I am no longer a victim of emotional eating. Just take care how you tell someone you love that they need to lose weight. Especially a teenager.
Something I’ve picked up is whenever someone is at fault, guilty, or embarrassed, they would give an exuse or divert the attention to something else besides themselves so they don’t seem in the wrong so they don’t get embarrassed lol
Exactly. I remember the heroine sheek days and how there was universal condemnation, probably because over weight/obese people were will to join in to move the goal posts on thinness. But now there are magazine covers showing morbidly obese people and those people and there enablers are defending a dangerous lifestyle because it makes them feel good and “celebrated” for a brief moment. It’s extremely sad.
The petition to allow free seating is what disturbs me. Her choice to remain so large isn't my issue nor my business. Airlines charge by the seat. I also wonder how a 5'4" person weighing 380 can maneuver the aisle or use the rest room.
If the airlines are mandated by law to accomate morbility obese people by making the seats larger, guess who picks up the costs! Right….the rest of us. I refuse to pay extra for their bad choices in life!! The medically disabled have no choice….she has a choice whether to open her mouth and consume the food.
You can be whatever weight you want. As someone formerly 300+ pounds whose lost 80 pounds over the past 10 years (some illnesses have "helped" with that too) I can say it's definitely worth it and look, I don't care what weight you are, but when you start glorifying and promoting it, especially to kids, that's where the problem is. What is it that these people don't get? We're not attacking you or your weight, we just disagree that it's something to "celebrate." I do think Piers went a little over the edge on this one to be quite honest.
I think there’s a difference between “accepting” someone who is morbidly obese or overweight, meaning you don’t treat them poorly solely based on that fact that they are overweight, and CELEBRATING and GLORIFYING it. Too many are conflating “body positivity” with the promotion of what is clearly an unhealthy lifestyle. If an anorexic person wouldn’t be put in the video and rail thin models were taken off runways for promoting unhealthy living in that way, I believe Piers has a point about hypocrisy in this new argument.
i agree with the BMI argument except lets say we calculate ronnie coleman at 297lbs @ 5' 11" which gives us 41.4 which is certified obesity however he is obviously in amazing shapd most will never achieve. still agree withe piers 100% tho
ding ding, you won the comment prize! Why can't we say this these days? We are supposed to accept everyone...I tell you my eyes roll into the back of my head daily on the strand and bizarre. The repulsive and undesirable...love it. But do I have to embrace it as I am holding back chunks?
@@lisawentworth6831 hey, you can say whatever you want "these days", just know that it makes you sound rude, obnoxious and just plain mean. Accept or don't accept whatever you want, I agree this chick isnt healthy, but calling her repulsive and undesirable is hateful and immature. I see by your video that you are quite the svelte beauty yourself. 🙄 Jesus, don't be so mean!
"You being less fat than me doesn't make a...you know..." she can't even finish that sentence, she knows its BS. How fat you are is at the essence of the issue. If you are okay with being a little fat than its your choice and should be respected but if you are fat to the point that it becomes a medical condition that puts your life and wellbeing at risk then it becomes a really bad thing that you need to avoid.
@@butu26890 because you can't see it. In the end the super skinny and the super obese meets at the same point: it's obvious! The deeper depressed who cries and says how they're feeling is obvious but not those who hides and smiles. If it's not obvious, if you're not aware of those stuff you simply don't pay attention or do anything. That's why there's so many problems we let grow. And that's human nature. Not meaning we can't do anything, but that's comprehensible. Even knowing someone is bad if they stop talking about it I personally forget, until I remind. The thing is keeping our awareness, sharing it, build the habit of questioning. It's something that takes emotional and intelectual energy. Not everyone have the opportunity to enter in contact with it, or to put it into practice. Some don't have the resources or enough reason to do it. But we just need to make it become subconscious to people, if 2% of the population makes it bigger enough the ones who can't or simply don't think bout those issues will simply take it as common sense. Still it's a long way to go.
@@butu26890 telling someone who made themselves morbidly obese that morbid obesity is dangerous will not give them life-threatening mental health issues that will cause them to die young. let's not pretend that one isn't more important than the other.
@@butu26890 because she joined that conversation to discuss this topic. That's what the whole thing should be about. Of cause pierce was a bit direct but in the end she shouldn't do stuff like this if she doesnt want to have a discussion about her health
When that giant lady is in the hospital and the doctors are telling her she's not gonna make it because her heart can't work anymore, she will regret it.
I'm sorry but the ones who are saying that she shouldn't be in a music video are totally wrong.. she definitely is encouraging people to go work out because I'm sure they wouldn't wanna look like that 💀
Notice how they complain about people critiquing them about their weight, yet she was the first person to call him fat in a negative way. Screams irony.
Well he's ugly and a shitty man with a shitty personality and a misogynist, but he still got a job. Why can't she have a job?
Perfect. Piers should just quote his BMI and what bracket it is in, vis-a-vis 64 bmi person attacking him to be fat.
She has some nerve calling him fat. He's not even fat!
@@priyamd4759 that's a stack of bmi
100% correct!
She went from body positivity to fat shaming really quick
Plus size models used to be fat disgusting pigs, now they been celebrated as heros....i guess a plus size superhero , probably Marvel, is in order
To someone who isn't even fat
she is giving Lizzo energy 💅
@@jenniferthomas9drop lizzo on iran😂😂
That's cause she has zero defense but also can't accept the truth
"She wasn't born like that. She made herself like that." This says it all.
That model did botox and has a lot of makeup on, she wasn't born like that either. Doing botox needs to be addressed too in my opinion because it is destructive in many ways as well.
@@GS-ju3sr Botox and makeup are not unhealthy and will not eventually kill her with serious heart or diabetes issues. Ignoring this issue only encourages young kids to stop becoming aware of how unhealthy and obese they're becoming until it's way beyond their control and it becomes almost impossible to lose that weight for the rest of their lives. It's very difficult to get rid of large amounts of weight when you've let it go too far and it can be with you for the rest of your life.
@@ratt57 I am definitely not in favor of accepting obese as something natural and beautiful, I was just really triggered by the model's botox face for a moment and therefore I felt an urge to express my discontent with botox.
Amen!
Its genetics :D
When she tried to turn it around on him and he go “I’m 6’1 and 220 lbs, and your 5’4 and 380 lbs” had me deaddddd💀💀
The delusion is wild
Yeah, this was hubris at its best.
Her only defense is calling him fat 😂
literally my thoughts like girl your making yourself look like a fool
Like a little girl
And the eye roll! Don't forget the eye roll. 🙄
It's so funny how she keeps calling him fat. Girl stop!
I like his response "You might think I'm fat, most viewers are looking at this thing they're not seeing me as morbidly obese" 😂😂😂
That was hilarious. If he's fat, she's beyond morbidly obese
@@alwynsmit3546one does not exclude the other
Fat people and LGBTQ+ guests always call him fat
I dated morbidly obese women when I was younger (I thought I had to accept them) and they were mean! I was called fat everyday even though I wasn't morbidly obese. But it was to make themselves feel better. I will no longer date women who hate themselves that much!
My partner had a BMI of 60... his heart gave up at aged 38. Morbid obesity is listed as one of the causes of death. It can kill you.
Ur absolutely right
Sorry for your loss
Yep, and Pier is next.
@@craigash189😂
@@craigash189 not even close.
please stop embarrassing yourself
We shouldn’t celebrate any type of unhealthy behavior, whether it’s food abuse or drug abuse it shouldn’t be praised.
But people should be helped, not shamed
@@galinageorgieva8554 asking to be glorified and accepted is what they want; getting shamed, of you want to call it that, is them simply stating facts. That's not shaming...her calling him fat that's shaming! And delusional
@@lisawentworth6831 I didn't mean he was shaming her, I meant - yes, we absolutely should not accept it, because it is not healthy physically and it is not healthy psychologically. To deal with something like that people need a lot of psychotherapy/psychological help and support, IMO. Of course their denial they have a problem is also a problem.
Some people think not accepting it means shaming them and bullying them into changing their ways, which might work sometimes, but does not deal with the core problem and more often than not leads to a huge resistance and denial.
I guess I should've elaborated :).
agreed we should not celebrate piers's unhealthy lifestyle. he should not be allowed a platform as it gives people the idea that it's ok to be a slob like him
@@galinageorgieva8554 It's not shaming, that's just a stupid label they give it. It's not shaming to tell someone they have a drug problem, and alcohol problem or anything like that. It's "concern" not shame.
I love how she talks about how all bodies should be recognized and glorified but yet she IMMEDIATELY starts calling him fat. She is such a hypocrite.
a common personality trait among the woke garbage of society
She really called him fat when he's older, taller, and slimmer. His weight is completely normal for someone his age and height.
Technically, according to most BMIs and weight charts show that 220 at 6’1” is still considered overweight. The numbers have changed over time too. So who’s making up these charts? And why can’t they all agree?
@@chickadeeacres3864 you don’t need to base it on bmi. You can see with your own eyes who of the two in this video is clearly the healthier one.
6'1" 220 is overweight, mate. Morbidly obese it isn't, though.
I’m 6 feet one and weigh 210 pounds and I’m not obese. I’m a bodybuilder. I lift weights Almost every single day of the week.
@@danr5239 Piers isn't a bodybuilder. Still not obese, though.
Bottom line….she doesn’t want to give up her food. No diets don’t work. But, changing your eating habits DO work.
at least she got paid. what she gona do? eat some more
Exercise with healthy eating habits do work.
Diets do work lol u just need will power which people seem to not have
Average person thinks of a "diet" as a short-term sacrifice to lose weight quickly. In order to be successful and long-term, it needs to be a lifestyle change.
It's definitely more complex and not as simple as eating less. There is a lot of misinformation out there-- most studies around food, diet or exercise exclude women. Keto, paleo, etc diets are NOT good for women long-term bc our bodies need different nutrition during different phases of our cycle. It's called Cycle Syncing, created by Alissa Vitti, and it is a game changer for women's health.
As a plus size woman. Nothing is glorifying about being this way. I’m currently trying to lose weight and get my life together. Let’s stop this madness with this glorying body image crap
yep, hopefully piers quits media soon because he's disgusting and he shouldn't be promoting his body as normal.
I was there.. advice.. just walk every day half hour. Be patient and dont lose hope. As you progress just walk faster or longer. Best way to lose it
Don’t give up. Nothing that’s worth it comes easy!
I completely agree with you. Don’t give up!
I must say walking is very good. It helped me get in shape just in 3 months.
She wants to be accepted and not judged. But then starts fat-shaming Piers ! The hypocrisy.
Right!!!!
Why shouldn't she? He fat shamed her.
if she wants to be accepted, she should shut her mouth for a few hours a day
@@jonjonwp it's a diffrence, he was speaking the truth and she got hurt so she tried to shame him
@@jonjonwpbe realistic. Stop using your emotions
Weird times when people are debating whether "being obese" should be acceptable
It can't be unacceptable or we'd lose half the population. But it can and should be discouraged.
She was 36 and stated that her health issues were age related, not weight related. That's a big fat lie.
Pun intended? Lol
I thought she told Piers she was 46 not 36.
She corrected him and did state that she was 46.
46 is still not that old, there’s a lot of healthy 46 year olds
@j.c7719 yeah and she ain't one of them
Piers is absolutely correct
Agreed
piers is not correct. he called himself reasonably healthy but he's knocking on obesity's door. in fact he's obese today.
@@craigash189 Stop spamming this shit. Seriously you must be Angelina to be this triggered.
i agree with the BMI argument except lets say we calculate ronnie coleman at 297lbs @ 5' 11" which gives us 41.4 which is certified obesity however he is obviously in amazing shapd most will never achieve. still agree withe piers 100% tho
imagine being called fat by someone twice your size?
She is twice his weight and half his height
😂😂😂 she's a joke
😊😅😂
I have 😂
Somebody once said “you don’t see any old obese people”. That always stuck with me.
Damn so true
Deep AF👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Facts Omm!!!!!
House M.D. season 3 episode 6 - Que Sera Sera
A morbidly obese man refuses medical help after waking up from a coma. One of the doctors asks him "George, you ever notice you don't see a lot of obese old men?"
My mother-in-law was morbidly obese. She died at 80 years old. She could barely do anything for years and had to be wheeled around in a wheelchair. All her health problems, she blamed on everything else but her weight.
"She wasn't born like that, she made herself that way." 🙏
I have suffered obesity all my life, I weighed 132 kg and my height is 1.82m and I can tell you from my point of view that it is the worst nightmare you can have. My body was literally fast food garbage. I got tired when walking. I couldn't go for a walk with my friends because I got tired. My legs hurt, I had heart palpitations, I was always hungry and I just didn't enjoy life. Now, weighing 82 kg, I can say that it is the best decision I have ever made, my health improved, my life improved, so everything this woman says is pure "bullshit."
God bless you
Im proud of you
bro honestly.. nothing has changed for me..
i went from 140 kg to 90 (184cm) but my life hasnt changed..
my self esteem has been low for a long time… im glad you feel much better after losing the weight. But i think i was naive, i thought it would be a magic wand that would fix all my problems. But i think my past has left me very scarred.
You have the problem of skin sagging
Good work!
Piers, once again, handled an interview superbly and diplomatically.
“Normalising it is the problem”. I think this is the essence of the issue.
but also agree on the view that beauty standards projected by media is also toxic.. I think seeing things like cellulite, normalising legitimate real healthy bodies is whats needed
There is normalisation here. There is presenting reality of all kinds of people in a video. You want media and songs to only present the most unrealistic world, while she is arguing that media should present a realistic world with all kinds of people. She is real, your way of thinking is fake.
@@alexsmith2766 that's like saying lifestyle magazines should have raging drug addicts so that we can present different kinds of lifestyles.
@@Ariel-Jemima Please do not twist my words and pay attention this time. No one is saying someone "SHOULD" do anything. You do what you want if you owned a magazine or you were making a video.
There is a difference between saying "This is the role model that people should follow" and between simply presenting those types of people as PART OF LIFE. My argument is for the latter. Fat people are PART of life, implying that they should not be in music videos is the most stupid thing I've ever heard and trying to justify it is even stupider.
@@Ariel-Jemimamost singers are drug addicts but it's fat people on pop videos that offends you? Why?
He isn't fat. She is delusional
If he's fat then she's anorexic 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well if we have to be honest… yes, he’s fat, clearly…
she weighs 150 lbs more than her...that's a whole person more!!
@@lisawentworth6831 she ate an overweight girl 😂
no she's fat too
People like the woman in green, who couldn't seem to handle the truth of this conversation are a huge part of our problem these days. Unaccountable.
She’ll be regretting her whole life when she finds it hard to breathe one day
I’m sure it’s already difficult for her to breathe.
Piers you are absolutely correct 💯🤙
It's so sad how delusional she is... its extremely worrying the level of denial..
I have a funny feeling she doesn't really believe herself when she says things like "I've already lived a full life".. no you haven't girl! I hope she comes round and realises there's so much more she could have and do.....😥
She has lived a full life alright. She is full because she never stops eating.
@@jackfanning7952😂
She lived my as*! I'm 46 and as I'm getting older I see so much things to do,to see,to feel. She just gave up. Lying to herself
@@Frank-DuxVanDammeOh! She's definitely lying to herself. She has just given up.
Yeah her stomach is living a full life.
Give this man an award for INSPIRING YOUTH...RESPECT 😍😍
they should look up this man not retarded brothers
As an obese woman, I totally agree with Peirce. Now I have just been diagnosed with PCOS and we are working to find what works for me to lose weight. This lady in red is lazy and doesn’t want to try and get healthy and change her life. It’s all about wanting to be healthy.
So if you totally agree with Pierce, then you shouldn't have a problem with people bullying you for your weight, right?
The point is not to promote it
@@Zoki4444 you missed the point.
If I interviewed this girl I’d genuinely just be laughing in her face the entire time… the fact that she thinks she has anything close to the slightest valid point at all is absolutely hysterical I wouldn’t be able to keep a straight face
I know this is bad to say but when i look at her i keep thinking of a toad in a dress 😬
@@Truthsayer112 lol
What got me is she said she is 46. Man, it's time to have a reality check and get healthy. I get upset when I gain two pounds and don't look good in my clothes.
I know this was three years ago, but I’m sure she excelled as a model and became huge.
😂😂😂
💀💀💀
yeah now she's bringing in the big bucks !
Grilled, Fried, Sauté whatever man she cooking tonight
Lmfao
Immense! Enormous! Massive!
The denial is so dangerous. How is being 46 the reason she has health issues and overlooks her weight issue?
This man is who we all need to be.
A straight white man?!! Thanks, but I'll go ahead and PASS.
@@ronneyrendon white man? Yes , straight? No
@@ronneyrendon what do you have against straight white men?
@@ronneyrendonthat’s racist, sexist and heterophobic. Could you imagine if someone said the reverse? The double standards are unbelievable
@@ronneyrendonwhat as opposed to a wonky multicoloured one
Unhealthy is Unhealthy and its not about acceptance.
She’s right…she doesn’t look her age. She looks way older. And then to say that Piers is “too big” for her….the hypocrisy.
she has that delusion that baby fat makes you look young. I always looked at it this way; you get out of school at 18 or so and are at your peak, supposedly. When I see someone obese, I start adding x amount of years to get that fat. I don't deduct age, I add it, because it would take considerable effort to put on hundreds of pounds
don't read anything into it, she was just hurt and retaliating
She looks bad for her age. And giving up at 46 is sad
When you turn 40 you can't eat what you used to eat when you were under 30. You think about eating healthy and cutting out bad foods, working out, getting a hobby.@@lisawentworth6831
The fact that the model in the studio who has the physical appearance that should be promoted way more than the obese models is humble and doesn’t see herself in a perfect way compared to the obese model speaks volume.
@@alexuswalker7366 Heart disease, diabetes, and cardiovascular problems are just some of the issues that come with obesity. These are health issues that will kill someone vastly overweight early on. You may think every body type is beautiful, but those physical issues aren't, and I have a couple of friends who are continually battling health issues due to being vastly overweight and they're not enjoying their lives. Obesity is an eating disorder, just like anorexia... claiming it's beautiful and encouraging it is only hurting those people affected by it. It's one thing to be supportive and understanding to an overweight person... but celebrating it is another matter altogether. And I can't Piers Morgan either, lol...
Who are you to say what physical appearance should be promoted?
Who are you to do the same?
@@alexuswalker7366Imma go ahead guess you must be overweight😂💀
@@alexuswalker7366 no not every body type is beautiful let’s stop with that bull there’s an ideal body type for both sexed supported by years of scientific evidence. Come out of lala world
I love the way Piers made his argument: calm, candid, logical, compassionate, , respectful and professional. Well done
Unfortunately he avoided taking any responsibility for his fatness. He needs to exercise and diet more.
He’s not fat and the chick in the red top is extreme fat
@@franksanz1044 if you don't think he's fat then you must be extremely fat. look up healthy BMI. Piers is a slob and is not healthy
@@craigash189At least he’ll probably live to retire
@@bestjenkins2165 lmfao if u think that's a mark of a healthy life
Obesity is an often forgotten about sin.
Admitting you have a problem is the first step in recovery.
I was fat. I got that way from playing World of Warcraft and drinking soda. I’ve lost weight. Literally quitting soda made a huge difference. Now I try to work out here and there and be more active. I never cared about what people said. But in the back of my mind I was always disgusted with myself. Just because I knew I was unhealthy. I didn’t realize how out of shape I was until I learned that it’s not normal to feel like dying going up stairs. The greatest feeling ever was going up 4 flights of stairs and not dry heaving lol. This chick is simply trying to capitalize off of it and drive more publicity for money. I was fat and it certainly was a disease I put upon myself. Much like how my father knew smoking was a self inflicted disease of addiction. We’ve both removed these negativities from our lives. I don’t appreciate how she says she won’t even bother.
Cheers to your health! So glad to hear you and your father have removed these poisons. It will improve your lives, as you have started to see! 🙂
it was more than drinking soda, the past few months I've been drinking soda [Dr. Pepper] and I lost at least 8 pounds but I'm stopping it because its giving me headaches,
She is given up hope like I had for too long. I am 51 lbs lighter than I was back in Nov of 22. I got sick with the flu for 1 month it was torture but I lost 34 lbs! Then I kept going I cut out Soda, I cut out chips and candy, then added more like Lunch meat which bothered me and recently bread. I also quit pizza and chinese food which I was addicted to as well. I feel like a different person!
it sounds like you are way more self-aware. The opposite is going on in the world, and people want us to embrace their mistakes, instead of them fix them. I don't get it...
calling pierce fat while she almost fill the screen up💀
Listen!:
I was an athlete when i was younger. When i started law school, i started eating snacks while studying and quit the gym. I didnt realise my weight gain until my grandmother shamed me in front of my family and told me i lost it.
Instead of canceling my granny, i quit snacks, i didnt eat dinner, i picked up sports and i lost 30% of my weight in 6 months and im back to a healthy BMI.
Im thankful to my granny for fat shaming me.
Im healthy again and actually girls are interested in me again. I even got my health problems back under control (no more diarrhia).
Beeing fat is unhealthy!
Nobody should get shamed by strangers, but there no right to defendinf an unhealthy lifestyle.
Same with drinking and smoking.
I had my party Phase, i was drinking and smoking, but never would i have said: well everybody should be alowed to smoke and drink as long as they feel good.
The mind protects yourself from harm, meaning protects yourself from criticism.
But criticism, honest criticism is the only way to improve youself!
Kudos to you
i am in the journey now, my husband was worried that if he mentioned i am fat i would get angry but it made me not like myself. I lost 7kg now and i want to get to 65kg i was 63 before pregnancy
better insults from a friend than kisses from an enemy,
Same happened to me! It hurts but damn it’s a good motivator
She felt attacked. She knew they were right, and that hurt her because they spoke her insecurities. I honestly feel sorry for her.
3 minutes into the interview - Pierce, though criticising her, used his intellect and knowledge not to offend her. But, then, she called him fat, maybe 4 or 5 times ! How is this fair???
All she can do is keep repeating herself instead of having a valid argument and discussion
I couldn't agree more with all that Mr. Piers said. Great respect for speaking facts.
She said diets fail like the diet decides to sabotage her goals 😂😂😂
Good to finally see a appearance sence your last one holding princess Leia captive in Star Wars
"I Love being morbidly obese! ~ Said NO ONE EVER. she can "defend" her size all she wants. She wasn't born that size.
Did she just straight up called him FAT!!!😭😭😭 Girl our eyes are not seeing the same thing. Satan has blinded these people 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
"Satan has blinded you people" says the person who believes in sky pixies.
@@davidsmith7653 womp womp 😂😂😂
She really did a terrible job trying to justify her “cause”. Throwing insults instead of answering questions is a cop out.
'Obesity is a huge problem' Well yes it is, literally.
I'm 5'5" , almost 67, and weigh less than 200 lbs. I would not feel comfortable being a model because of my weight. Also, being overweight is definitely limiting.
Oh at 5'5 200 is a quite a lot, im at around 230 6'1 and its pushing it.
Imagine calling someone fat when you run out of breath by just talking
I feel like I'm losing brain cells with every minute I'm watching this.
She says she is younger than him like that's a brag
Truth be told we should protect Piers at all costs :D
There's a difference between being confident in who you are and pretending being morbidly obese is something to be applauded. Normalizing something that is known to severely decrease life expectancy is a dangerous trend.
It didn't take her long to become a "fat shamer" herself, in the absence of a better argument
If obese people can get a free second seat, then I’m gonna become obese to claim my two seats, and then resell them for like 80% market value. 60% profit for every flight
Great business idea m8!
And now it could be easier. You can just identify as obese now, no need to become one.
You don't have to become obese. Just identify as obese
She was trying so hard to deflect. Ridiculous. Stop it. I'm so over all of it!!
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
I cant understand this madness of celebrating bad health. in my job I know 1st hand what obesity really does and I would not wish it on anyone.
Normalizing is the problem…
It is not. It is presenting reality of all kinds of people in a video. You want media and songs to only present the most unrealistic world, while she is arguing that media should present a realistic world with all kinds of people. She is real, your way of thinking is fake.
And bullying is the solution? How many kids will commit suicide or become anorexic after blaming and shaming them for being fat? Tough on Crime did nothing but harbored an environment for criminals to become worse. The same will happen with obesity.
It didn’t feel like an interview, rather than a group of experts studying and discussing about the morbidly obese test subject in front of them. Absolutely brilliant 😂
yassss
This girl has more attitude that intelligence.
No, she has more fat and lard in her brain than an actual having a brain 🤣
I think the fats are taking up space for her brain.
When she called him fat i lost it!😅😅😅
being in a pop video is not a problem at all, she is a big girl who was on a video and there is nothing wrong with that. it's only a problem if they're straight up telling children that this is healthy.
Body positivity was supposed to be about loving yourself, because loving yourself makes you want to take care of yourself, and you can live happily without wanting to have surgery and all the awful things people do to their bodies...body positivity was never about staying in the dangerous weight forever
Something i deeply agreed is "a buf of shame is needed" not only on the fat or physical issues, but any behavior.
Not shaming the appearance, but the habit. Obesity is not body shape, it's habits, mental and emotional issues.
Shame is a natural feeling, it makes us change our behavior. But it's also about the dose.
Her and people like her brings us awareness. It's better than them hiding and pretending to bot exist. And this discussion is also needed.
Maybe she doesn't listen or many other people, but it can save lives, can change minds, can improve society in some aspects.
The things is not stop talking and to keep creating space for minimum respectful debates
this is insane... big up piers
He literally said “im a big boy….in many ways 😝” subtle
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
I get it there are many body types but calling obesity as body positivity is just messed up. It's unhealthy.
It’s like you can do what you want but when you start damaging yourself like that and when you start letting people live in delusion, they start to think their delusion is reality. That’s the problem.
THISSS
She can admit she's not healthy yet she can't take the responsibility she should for influencing millions of people to be not fat and unhealthy but extremely morbidly obese to the point that she's well over the suggested levels to be considered obese.
It's not about being thin
It's about being healthy and the sooner folks realize that the better their loves would be.
i'd like to see some of the people that she influences....
she admits she's not healthy yet he cannot meet he is not healthy. sad.
When I noticed myself getting fat and was told by my doctor that I was morbidly obese I immediately asked for advice. He suggested eating better and put me on Wegovey a weight loss injection you take once a week. Despite some nasty side effects I have gone on it because I want to do what I can to get healthy again.
❤
It is quite awesome, that you want to be healthy again, but you don't become morbidly obese so fast. How come you didn't notice it way before that, when you were becoming obese? What I mean is, we all have a psychological issue, which is the real reason for our health problems. I am pretty sure that if you work on it the excess weight will go away a lot easier.
@@galinageorgieva8554 I knew I was fat the moment I saw vacation pictures from last year. I suffer from depression and I tend to eat too much because of it. I was also downing oreos like no tomorrow but then one day I looked in the mirror at my belly and butt and thought I have to do something. I had no idea it had gotten this much out of control. So I went to my doctor for help.
@@DestinyPifer I meant the real psychological reason/s for all of it -depression, overeating, maybe more. It might be very, very deep.
I just found out mine(literally today. I had other theories, but turns out I was wrong). It was the cause of my chronic health problems, anxiety, etc and am starting to work on it.
I suggest Alex Loyd's codes or whatever resonates with you, something that will really deal with the core problem and not just with the symptoms.
BTW, I also get depression, when I eat wheat foods, that's why I had to stop them.
Best of luck, I wish you to get to the bottom of it, feel great and be healthy.
Diet has a 95 percent failure rate? Examples
She failed to put the box of doughnuts away
She failed to order a salad
She failed to choose water over soda
She failed to not over eat
She failed to take morning walks
She failed to pass on the butter
Let this woman be…. Unfortunately she won’t survive to see 60 😢
Not everyone wants to live long. 🤷♀️😅
"No one should comment on what I look like"
- takes job as a model
As someone who was actually bullied and singled out by my own aunt who would say things at family parties infront of people like "If you eat that you will get fat!" every time! Even when I had just gotten there and was eating the first bite. That is what I lived with for years she also told me that I was fat and ugly unlovable and that no man would ever want me! So to me that is fat shaming.
The dif between telling someone they are unhealthy and that you are worried about them is dif than what my aunt did to me. So fat shaming is not the right word to use. I don't know how she thought she was gonna help me. She claimed years later she was trying to keep me from being like her in school!
She caused me to become an emotional eater it was the only outlet before her bullying tactics I was not as into food. I was 90 lbs at 12 years old not fat at all and with a good appetite. Not too much food! Then my hormons hit and so did thyroid issues. I gained a little weight and then she started in on me.
People need to understand that words have an affect on people even years later. I topped 300 lbs in October of last year. In December at the end of the month for a whole month I wa sick with the flu pretty much bedridden. I lost 34 lbs before I even knew it. God proved to me that I could lose weight. I kept taking out things that were bad like soda and candy and chips to start with. Added more and more to it.
I have lost a total of 51 lbs! I'm going for a total of 99 lbs now.! I know I can do this with God's help! I feel so much better folks there is such a dif between the me in Oct and me now! I have hope and I have control over my own body I am no longer a victim of emotional eating. Just take care how you tell someone you love that they need to lose weight. Especially a teenager.
Something I’ve picked up is whenever someone is at fault, guilty, or embarrassed, they would give an exuse or divert the attention to something else besides themselves so they don’t seem in the wrong so they don’t get embarrassed lol
Doesn't the fashion industry celebrate anorexia?!
Exactly. I remember the heroine sheek days and how there was universal condemnation, probably because over weight/obese people were will to join in to move the goal posts on thinness.
But now there are magazine covers showing morbidly obese people and those people and there enablers are defending a dangerous lifestyle because it makes them feel good and “celebrated” for a brief moment. It’s extremely sad.
Every second that goes by is millions of brain cells lost watching this "debate".
"Diets are not going to work for me. Whenever I go to McDonalds and get a Diet Coke with my meal, I still gain weight"
- Her
The petition to allow free seating is what disturbs me. Her choice to remain so large isn't my issue nor my business. Airlines charge by the seat. I also wonder how a 5'4" person weighing 380 can maneuver the aisle or use the rest room.
Next she'll petition for new building regulations to accommodate plus sized individuals.
If the airlines are mandated by law to accomate morbility obese people by making the seats larger, guess who picks up the costs! Right….the rest of us. I refuse to pay extra for their bad choices in life!! The medically disabled have no choice….she has a choice whether to open her mouth and consume the food.
If somehow they allow free seating for fat people . They gonna increase the ticket prices too .
Even worse, there are people supporting these lunatics.
If a passenger is above a certain weight I believe the airlines make them purchase 2 seats together or they don't fly
You can be whatever weight you want. As someone formerly 300+ pounds whose lost 80 pounds over the past 10 years (some illnesses have "helped" with that too) I can say it's definitely worth it and look, I don't care what weight you are, but when you start glorifying and promoting it, especially to kids, that's where the problem is. What is it that these people don't get? We're not attacking you or your weight, we just disagree that it's something to "celebrate." I do think Piers went a little over the edge on this one to be quite honest.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
😂 emphasising the word BIG in that question, made my day
After losing weight, there's not one formerly obese person who says, "Wow! I really miss being that large!"
I think there’s a difference between “accepting” someone who is morbidly obese or overweight, meaning you don’t treat them poorly solely based on that fact that they are overweight, and CELEBRATING and GLORIFYING it.
Too many are conflating “body positivity” with the promotion of what is clearly an unhealthy lifestyle. If an anorexic person wouldn’t be put in the video and rail thin models were taken off runways for promoting unhealthy living in that way, I believe Piers has a point about hypocrisy in this new argument.
i agree with the BMI argument except lets say we calculate ronnie coleman at 297lbs @ 5' 11" which gives us 41.4 which is certified obesity however he is obviously in amazing shapd most will never achieve. still agree withe piers 100% tho
Some people will fight to the bitter end to not accept how repulsive and undesirable they really are
A little harsh don't you think? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. 🤷🏼♀️
@@poppyc4292 I was referring to myself
@@benjover5663 lmao
ding ding, you won the comment prize! Why can't we say this these days? We are supposed to accept everyone...I tell you my eyes roll into the back of my head daily on the strand and bizarre. The repulsive and undesirable...love it. But do I have to embrace it as I am holding back chunks?
@@lisawentworth6831 hey, you can say whatever you want "these days", just know that it makes you sound rude, obnoxious and just plain mean. Accept or don't accept whatever you want, I agree this chick isnt healthy, but calling her repulsive and undesirable is hateful and immature. I see by your video that you are quite the svelte beauty yourself. 🙄 Jesus, don't be so mean!
"You being less fat than me doesn't make a...you know..." she can't even finish that sentence, she knows its BS.
How fat you are is at the essence of the issue. If you are okay with being a little fat than its your choice and should be respected but if you are fat to the point that it becomes a medical condition that puts your life and wellbeing at risk then it becomes a really bad thing that you need to avoid.
Why is people so concerned ab the physical health of a person but not ab the mental issues that their comments could cause on that individual?
@@butu26890 because you can't see it.
In the end the super skinny and the super obese meets at the same point: it's obvious!
The deeper depressed who cries and says how they're feeling is obvious but not those who hides and smiles.
If it's not obvious, if you're not aware of those stuff you simply don't pay attention or do anything.
That's why there's so many problems we let grow. And that's human nature.
Not meaning we can't do anything, but that's comprehensible.
Even knowing someone is bad if they stop talking about it I personally forget, until I remind.
The thing is keeping our awareness, sharing it, build the habit of questioning. It's something that takes emotional and intelectual energy. Not everyone have the opportunity to enter in contact with it, or to put it into practice. Some don't have the resources or enough reason to do it.
But we just need to make it become subconscious to people, if 2% of the population makes it bigger enough the ones who can't or simply don't think bout those issues will simply take it as common sense.
Still it's a long way to go.
@@butu26890 cuz if she are gonna be depressed by a few comments, then she cant be helped.
@@butu26890 telling someone who made themselves morbidly obese that morbid obesity is dangerous will not give them life-threatening mental health issues that will cause them to die young. let's not pretend that one isn't more important than the other.
@@butu26890 because she joined that conversation to discuss this topic. That's what the whole thing should be about. Of cause pierce was a bit direct but in the end she shouldn't do stuff like this if she doesnt want to have a discussion about her health
When that giant lady is in the hospital and the doctors are telling her she's not gonna make it because her heart can't work anymore, she will regret it.
Her only defense was calling him fat.
"Im a big boy in many ways"😂😂😂
" i did this because i wanted to see someone like me get represented"
"i did this because i wanted to get paid."
the way PIERS GRILLS the living hell out her is the funniest thing I've seen today💀💀
People who have weight problems usually have depression, anxiety, etc... I don't think shaming helps in any way.
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im so confused on how people can think like that.....
She’s in denial 🤦♂️
I'm sorry but the ones who are saying that she shouldn't be in a music video are totally wrong.. she definitely is encouraging people to go work out because I'm sure they wouldn't wanna look like that 💀
I love how she kept calling him fat🙄 Girl please🤨