Film Theory: Luke SHOULDN'T Destroy The Death Star (Star Wars)
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- Опубликовано: 16 янв 2016
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We all love to root for Luke while he's landing the crucial shots to destroy the Death Star...but what if we've been wrong all this time? What if destroying the Death Star is COMPLETELY wrong? This episode shows exactly why the destruction of the Death Star would have not only hurt the Rebel Alliance, but the entire galaxy...
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So im watching this while doing my math home work and my mom walks into my room and i pause it on the part talking about all the money in the world and my mom was about to yell at me for not doing my math but then she saw the numbers on the screen and said "oh this is helping you never mind i thought you were watching videos about movies again." so i just wanted to say thanks mat pat for saving me from being yelled at.
Omg 😳😂
This is the most amazing thing over ever seen
Lol
The force will be with you :)
r/ThatHappened
So you could call it...
A debt star?
***** By all means,it does its job.
well done
+Comrade Canary Hilarious! You win the internet today :)
+The Film Theorists Hiiii! You're Amazing!!!!
+Comrade Canary damnit someone beat me to it
Matpat: Plapatine's take over was smooth.
Plapatine: Engineers a war in order to take over
was thinking the same thing
Relatively smoother. Palpatine took over in the matter of 6 years. They did it in 9 montha
Plapatine?? Lol
Plap plap palpatines fleet got the slap
Well in palpatines war was droids and clones the gcw was all real non cloned people
I’d argue that Palpatine’s takeover was no where near as smooth as you’re saying. Don’t forget, he engineered a galactic war between the Seperatists and the Republic, funded the Clone Army and the Droid Army and I can’t imagine that war being all that healthy on the economy either. While it may not have been as damaging as the Rebellion’s hostile takeover, it was hardly a smooth and peaceful transition that hardly affected the livelihoods of the galactic population.
actually I would say it's dependant on the planet some probably benefit from the clone wars and were far enough away that they could produce/manufacture for the war without it ever affecting them versus places that get absolutely taken over with fighting
Yes, but that would've been smooth to get over, with a new reformed state You'd be able to just erase any economic problems with the funds of the Empire, as we know the Republic was using a partial amount of their GDP to fund the clone army.
I'm pretty sure it's explained in the clone wars how the clone army impacts the economy of the republic
@@Gaelic-Spirit Basically american debt lol
He still perpetuated the 2nd clones wars. Which had no jede to semper the clones
Well, they can just borrow a small loan of 193 quintillion dollars.
+teh EPICATOR *republic credits
Considering that they are an empire with an unspecified number of worlds. They may just have to deny half of their military personel their new wage rise. And they may make up for it.
+Logan Barnett *imperial credits
+teh EPICATOR hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm sounds legit
+teh EPICATOR Actually, Palpatine took over all the banks...so...it gets even more complicated.
"The world is run by nerds"
I'd be more worried if the world was run by jocks.
Wedgies and swerlies for everyone!
+Your Neighborhood seagull Haha, don't forget lunch money tax.. Also phrases like "Hello, how are you?" and "Nice day, isn't it?" ..are replaced with "Do u even lift bro?" and "Whats up, Butt-munch?"
It would be hell....
Yeag
+Rusty Shackleford We all would, we all would.
A couple of things are being ignored here: 1. The destruction of the first Death Star would've been bad for the economy yes, but the blow would've been softened as more planets joined the Rebellion and led to both the Rebellion and the Empire pumping a lot more money into the economy and helping it to grow. 2. The Empire did not leave the galactic population alone. The Empire's policies would show that they were extremely oppressive to non-humans, for example committing genocide against the Lasat population and enslaving the Wookies.
also the death star was built in secret
3. the clone wars
The Empire also wiped out the Geonosians
Comparing blowing up the Death Star to 911 has to be one of the funniest MatPat takes ever
Maybe the Great Depression?
Darth Vader: "Luke, put the Death Star down right now! It was really expensive and I don't want you to break it."
Luke:haha death star goes boom
@@caustic5131 the humanity biggest enemy is a market force
Lol! This is amazing. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So the New Republic will fail easily because of the debt.
@@caustic5131 imagine him being as a cat and death star is glass mug
Everyone: palpatine died in the deathstar.
Palpatine 36 years later: laughs.
*laughs in Sith lord
*laughs in sith lord
Yup
"I am.....inevitable"
You're about 35 years too late
Matpat: "Everyone else was able to live their lives unharmed."
Me: **laughs in Star Wars Rebels**
So uncivilized
Hello there
General Kenobi!
Your lightsaber will be a fine addition to my collection
Oh I don’t think so
"But he pretty much left the galactic population alone in the process. Everyone else was able to live their lives with too much problem."
*The clone wars have entered the chat*
Jedi propaganda, revisionist history
So are we just going to ignore the U.S. government response to the petition, THIS IS NOT THE PETITION RESPONSE YOU ARE LOOKING FOR
"this is not the petition response I am looking for" well, yeah, they kind of wanted a death star XD
Not to mention the place they directed people towards to petition for it... C3PO
DaiNoShoujoNoYami haha 😂 😂 😂
Only just realized this
Samuel Johnston omg the USA is run by nerds and I love it
Thanks for that Matt! Now I need to save up 193 Quintilion bucks, and the universe will be mine.
I already have 14 bucks
Filip Von Filbert Great, your contributions won’t be in vein.
you have to kill luke first
@@paxtondashnau8648 Dat's ok, I don't have any children to defeat me. No prob.
Begin a mining business.
“When palpatine died”
Yea,well about that
Superweapon made by a tyrannical empire: *is destroyed*
Everyone: Oh no! This will surely be terrible for the economy
I'm not sure that's true either. Taxation stifles the economy, although projects like highways and bridges can help it because they make it easier to do business. The Death Star existed in order to bring all planets into the Empire. To increase their tax base. The Empire didn't actually make it easier to do business. They just made sure that people kept less of their earnings.
Empire was literally almost never tyrannical in the EU. Did a few people get offed by Sith? Sure. But the vast majority of the galaxy lived in a perfectly "normal" social structure, were well protected from pirates and others that would disrupt them and were financially stable. Some of the core worlds were tightly controlled but hundreds of others barely even knew the Empire existed beyond the taxes.
Well, blowing up billions of workers and taxpayers (on Alderaan) doesn't help the economy either...
@@MorliHolect That's just one planet. Though. And let's not forget the republic isn't really hands clean. Lots of bad stuff going on there, that has been culled under the empire, then again the empire brought other bad stuff to the table. The only reason we call the evil empire evil is cuz lucas wanted so. In reality the evil empire, might have just be just an empire.
@@Goldenkitten1 In the EU it was worse. In canon the empire is pretty chill
If matpat was the director of Star Wars movies, this would be the most depressing series on earth
Realism tho. You need it.
Yes
How is this vid a theory, its a literal fact.
Warhammer 40k: Are you sure about that?
Dead Meat it would still be better than the Disney trilogy
Star Wars The Stock Market Awakens
Star Wars: The Rebellion kills Economy.
+Tres Eberle star wars the drugs awaken
lel
all i can say is just G G
+Khalid Alnajjar i find your lack of economics disturbing. ( force chokes to death)
It's shown in the comics that the imperials were incredibly corrupt, and the fallout is shown
You also see how the empire got their funding
Plus the rebels needed to destroy the death start before they destroyed MORE planets!
Great video though!
The Death Star was more of a scare tactic more than anything. I mean, how many planets did you see them actually blow up with that thing?
Yeah, they blew up Alderaan... Which were harbouring terrorists.
Corrupt? I haven't seen the comics, but I'll look into it.
Yeeeeeah but here's a twist: they could just conquer the death star and recondition it to dont destroy planets. You know, to aboid recesion and stuff
@@franco-golpeador2435
Let me hit your twist with another twist.
War is gray! Even in Star Wars, their could be rebels who wouldn't mind using this thing to blow up imperial planets, innocents be damned! Plus there would be the possibility of the empire taking back the Death Star. Economy in a whole galaxy be damned! That thing needs to be destroyed!
Could've been scrapped for parts? Yes! But it's still a weapon people can take advantage of and use AS A WEAPON. You can remove the laser and it's still dangerous, cause now. Someone can pull a Mobile Suit Gundam and drop the thing on a world killing billions.
You can recover from dept and a lose of money, you CAN'T recover from the literal deaths of billions. Cause those lives are gone forever.
@@owenbernardo3026 Nukes are more of a scare tactic more than anything, I mean, how many cities did you see them actually blow up with that thing?
Yeah, they blew up Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which were in enemy territory.
We'll miss you, MatPat, thanks for the memories!
So the death star should have been named the debt star?
lol
+Nedas Zukovas probably was in newspapers on those planets or how bad work conditions were. Plus empire scandals with vader and leah? juicy!
I'M FRICKEN DYING RIGHT NOW!!!! XD
+Nedas Zukovas I so agree.
NICE ONE
"Palpatine died in the second one." lol, you thought
Hahahahahaha
Laughs in sith lord
@@psychicumbreon9564 *MY*
*LINE*
The sequels aren't cannon bro, legends are. He didn't lie he is just referring to the true star wars lore written by george lukas rather than the mouse.
@Just a guy that watches RUclips videos yea....OUR
LINE
step one: build big thing
step two: destroy it
steep three: crash the economy
"everyone else was able to live their lives without much of a problem"
*Coughs in slave labor*
*Sneezes in oppression*
*Sniffles in planetary geonocide*
Ah yes crimes that their ancestors definetly not caused *coughs in clones and droids oppressing millions of people*
Rebelion wasn't much better, it became the new republic which literally had the same problems
@@EE-dj7et slavery was overlooked in the old republic. Illegal in the core and unable to be enforced in the outer rim. Under the empire slaves were actively used for labor for the empire. Wookies and many other sapient creatures. Just look at rebels and solo at the pull of the empire's use of slavery
*intense general grievous amounts of coughing* space Nazis *more grievous coughing*
Need some allergy medicine?
Or do you have a cold?
“That thing wasn’t even fully paid of yet!”
Robot chicken
"Do you have *any* idea what this is gonna do to my credit?" 😀
So now that make so much sense now !! Good job
Missing the fact that the empire didn't pay for a whole lot. They just took what they wanted and blew up everything else.
It's still a lot of resources wasted in literally one minute
On a galactic scale; barely a dent in the imperial budget.
The Empire would have controlled the economy anyway, they produced everything, they bought everything. Mostly everything was nationalized. So it was a massive loop. The Empire didn't need to worry about the economy, because they controlled it.
thinking the same thing
Andrew Chapman l
I think that this is a good demonstration of the nature of Sith: acquire power, and then use it. If the thing they want to use it for isnt all that bad, then a Sith can actually make a pretty decent leader.
Don't forget Palpatine was enslaving entire races. Although to be fair the Galactic Republic and the later New Republic didn't do much to hinder the Hutt slave trade either, but still. At least they didn't promote it themselves.
@McFlyingFury eh, if they don't oppose it they *basically* promote it
@@hahafunnyname That's not a very complete way of looking at things. At first I almost replied "Only a Sith thinks in absolutes.", then realized that in this comment thread I was making a point that Sith can be not all that bad sometimes.
@Michael Cherokee I quess my way of looking at things is quite shallow because I am a rather silly goose
@@hahafunnyname Yeah I mean for tens of thousands of years nobody opposed the Hutts and their reign of slavery so....
“Huge Power Struggle after the Emporers Death” well yeah, that exactly happend. Independent warlords who worked for the Empure attempted to take over the Galaxy, eead yiur books MATPAT *uncontrollable sobbing*
And there even Starbbucks in the video.
"Palpatine took over relatively peaceful without hurting the galaxy"
Literally started a Galactic War that nearly bankrupt the galaxy and caused misery for nearly everyone
“Relatively peaceful?” He orchestrated a galaxy wide war to grab power.
Haha LOL 😂
@tsardean9192 Well, then you could say the same about the rebels, they were the ones who attacked first, and palpatine took action against the attack and initiated order 66.
@@fernandogray2811
Dear god you’re dumb. Do you have the FAINTEST idea about the order of events?!
@@fernandogray2811 Except he initiated that after they tried to arrest him for treason. He was a scumbag and there's no getting away from that. He was the most corrupt of a corrupt government. And how do you work out they started it? They started out trying to do things peacefully; only when that didn't work did they resort to violence. Don't forget Palpatine got rid of all opposition and made himself emperor.
Next Star Wars Movie. Episode 8: The Search For More Money.
😂😂😂
lol
LOL SO DAMN TRUE
It's a quote from space balls guys
+animegx45 Episode 9: Bankers Empire.
Matpat: *gives pure FACTS and LOGIC*
Also Matpat: "But heeeeey! That's just a theory!"
Because it isn't even a theory, it's merely conjecture! When a warship is at your shore, you do not think about how it's destruction will harm the enemy's economy, you order its destruction without a second thought to the lives on board or the cost to make it, or the armaments present on it.
About this theory: The frankly amazing Aftermath series agrees (yes, it's canon). It covers the events after the second death star and shows how the galaxy, particularly the empire, has gone to crap. They're great books and I would recommend reading them if you're interested.
I've heard that they aren't that good, but the lore they add is definitely good.
" So after the death of Palpatine "
Yeah...
About that...
Palpatine: Don’t mind me. I’m just waiting for my granddaughter to show up so I can take over her body and rule the galaxy once again.
Please dislike your comment
@Krozma San. Expect for the fact that he did die. His physical body in ROS is a clone
I see we have a big brain here
Well Disney made the new trilogy non canon so he is dead
Now then, let's talk the Starkiller planet...
+TheSuperGamefreak Oh boy, that one is gonna be heavy.
No
+TheSuperGamefreak let's not talk about JJ's Mary Sue fanfiction
They'd probably just use tech to redistribute the planets own steel to form the shape of the canon. The rest is already their in the form of the canon. It's probably physically impossible while keeping the planet's life forms alive, which they did, but then this a universe with space wizards in it so it's best not to nitpick.
I know right killing the only planet with light saber crystals and replacing it with a star just imagine how much money and time went into that thing plus it was replaced BY A STAR that star system would be torn apart by gravity in less than 10 years, still a cool scene tho
Watching this from 7 years later, I'm starting to thinking MatPat shouldn't have ever let go of that original opening theme song.
The empire was trying to keep the Death Star a secret, so not many normal people (non-imperials) knew that it even existed.
Even a lot of Imperials didn't know about it.
30 years later "HEY GUYS WE BUILT A NEW PLANET LOL"
+readyeddy It's probably not a new planet, they probably took an existing planet and put a giant underground base and superlaser inside of it.
+readyeddy I want to think that transforming a planet into a superweapon is cheaper than making a superweapon from scratch
+ruyman90 indeed
"Aaaaand it's gone."
+thelaughingrouge LOL!!!!
“THE WORLD IS RUN BY NERDS!” yay
I wish 😂
I'm so happy lol
YEEEES!!!
and C 3po
That it is.
They should make a movie about the empire, it should focus on their point of view. I would watch that movie, in fact I would probably watch it over and over again
i love all channels of matpats content you get to learn and seeing amzing videos that amazing great job matpat you made amazing channels and video
MatPat: Palpatine dies in the Death Star II.
Palpatine: *Laughs in Sith Lord*
Palpatine: laughs in murderous psychopath
Palpatine: *laughs in life support*
Somehow
@@madlad1741 Palpatine returned.
*One Punch Man Theory:* How much force is in one of Saitama's "casual" punches or even a "serious" punch?
Have not been seen yet.
+digimondudeify Its not impossible to know, you can estimate it based on the face that his serious punch literally splits the clouds apart across the equator.
digimondudeify It's just an attempt theory to be honest.
This is probably wrong just like his Kylo Ren theory
+Mario Hyrulia Infinity and infinity+1 respectively.
Matpat: The Death Star is needed for the economy
Also Matpat: Oh yeah that's right, they blew up a planet...oh, well...
you don't have to pay countless number of currencies to make a planet unlike the ds.
@@cr90captain89 True, but
1) consider the currency on the planet when it is blown up and
2) think about all of the industries on that planet when it is blown up. The division of labor has most likely advanced with technology, so there may be an entire field of industry crippled.
3) Most importantly, think of the economic disaster when people see the government blowing up it's own planets. There will be a scramble to get out of whatever investments seem risky, causing an absolute mess of an economy.
Palpatine when creating clones:
I'm never gonna financially recover from this expense.
Palpatine when creating 2 death stars, each costing 11000x the GDP of the ENTIRE EARTH:
INVEST.
your reference to the emperor "he pretty much left the galactic population alone" is wrong. He was the master mind behind the clone wars so everything since Naboo to his rise as the empire should be considered his fault. While the rebels may seem as terrorist who put the galaxy in a huge recession, the emperor is the one who engulfed the galaxy in a war, destroyed the balance of power from the inside, created dozens of rebel factions and small civil wars and destroyed the jedi order who was tasked to bring peace thus allowing even more crime to rise. you said that people spend less when they are scared and thats one of the first things to happen when a recession hits, well im pretty sure people were really scared the entire time the emperor was in power. sorry matt patt, im unconvinced about this theory. the only reason why they were able to build the death star was due to slave labor not a strong economy.
+Biggs Pretty sure Jar Jar was actually behind all that.
if you look at history big wars actually help the economy look at ww2
+Ryan G. True, Batman knows all
+Biggs Ok, im gona be that guy.
The death star was not the star wars twin towers, it was a military base.
Yup. Im probolbly benig dumb here, but im that guy.
The Empire is basically the US.
Starting dozens of small wars, funding major military projects, creating rebel factions, and ignoring the constitution (jedi order) which was supposed to bring peace and liberty.
I'm really glad he out those brackets in the title, I wasn't sure if he was talking about the Death Star from Star Trek or not
xD
+Ranomas Lightbringer Personally I thought he meant the Death Star from Game of Thrones
+Hasheem Gul Nah, it's from 50 shades of grey.
+Ranomas Lightbringer badum-ts
+Ranomas Lightbringer *without
I'm watching the 6 years later and its just insane to think this was the video that got me into film theory,game theory,and food theory just amazing
bro, coming back watching an older episode of film theory just gave me so much nostagia, mainly from the intro.
*I will finish..... What you started..... in easily manageable monthly payments"
LMAO
+SS Productions lol
+SS Productions All you need is a small loan of a million credits
DEAD RN
+SS Productions your name tho its kinda bad
You do realize that the Death Star was primarily constructed via slave labor, yes? And that the Empire was extremely racist (speciesist?) and treated every alien species as second class citizens? Bullshit that the Empire didn't effect imperial citizens. And Darth Vader was feared throughout the entire galaxy. There is also the Base Delta Zero operations carried out as a result of the Tarkin Doctrine.
Another thing. Attacking a military target and attacking a civilian target are completely different things. Don't try to equate them. The Alliance to Restore the Republic were NOT terrorists. A terrorist attacks civilian targets to instill fear in the populace. If anything, the rebels were stopping attacks like this from happening by destroying the Death Star and opposing the Empire's tyranny.
EDIT: You also are ignoring that the Empire had complete control over the economy. They could have forced the economy not to react. Plus they used propaganda to reduce the spread of information, such as them losing their most powerful military asset.
+Hylia's Hero The people from Alderaan were Imperial citizens
MakiPcr Which the Empire blew up. Proving my point that the Empire did effect your average citizen on a day to day basis.
Someone's a bit of a Star Wars geek... 💩
+Septicduckiplier Okay? Is that an insult or an onservation? Either way it applies to you too considering you watched this video.
+Hylia's Hero he could came just to troll. Just because u watch star wars doesn't mean you're a geek. Not having a life and doing nothing but watching star wars would make you a geek. js
When Palpatine died in death star 2. Oh boy, you are in for a
Great story matpat
I saw in a video that george lucas originally intended for the sequel trilogy to be about the recovery from the war, how luke would train new jedi, darth maul would be the main villain by being an underworld crime lord.
11:39
I never knew Starbucks is a galactic power-hungry faction which have a gigantic military force and proves to be a threat to the Empire
*The More You Know*
Luke i have coffee
Starbucks intensifies
The Star Trek federation was also there, and that universe isn't even connected!
*KNEW IT*
Who will win:
A whole empire with dark magic that are protected by planet-destroying weapons,
Or a random boi with a glowy stick?
Desert boi
Meams!
Sand boi.
To be fair that random boi was son of the chosen one sooo understandable
Random girl with glowy stick.
Funny that Robot Chicken Palpy kinda pointed this out to Vader in that phone call “That thing wasn’t even fully paid off yet!”
Vader to Luke: This is why we can’t have nice things
Matpat, what if the Empire stole the iron?
+Freshbreeze Probably got it all from that Junkyard Planet you fight Kazdan Paratus on in The Force Unleashed. They even have a smelting factory there specifically for building warships, with a cannon to fire the ore up to the orbital shipyard.
Also. Aren't there planets made entirely out of iron in the galaxy.
+Cody Hines That is non-canon.
+Freshbreeze It would still need to come from somewhere. Whether the steel was bought or reclaimed from scrapped x-wings you're still looking at thousands of planets-worth of the stuff as well as transportation costs, labour costs, life support for workmen on the project etc. All of this takes money if even you're doing it secretly so the economic effects would still exist, they'd just be labelled as 'Coffee' or whatever else you label your fraud. Then there's the question of why a legitimate government would need to steal resources to work on a project (however secret).
+packman2321 Well, the Empire mostly used slaves and prisoners of war, so they didn't really care about workmen.
11:39 Even Starbucks want to grab the power... :p
Lol u saw that too
lol
+Victor Sung The funny thing is that he is right about the numerous factions trying to grab power. Everyone was happy that the Emperor died but the Empire did not collapse. While a new republic was formed it still had to contend with the remaining power structure of the Empire including top admirals and other military brass still in power across hundreds of worlds. If politics is messy here on Earth with just one planet and one species you have no idea the hell the Star Wars Galaxy went through because of this. Before Disney took over the accepted canon for events after the fall of the empire was an explosion of new threats and instability.
+Pandor25 beware
+Pandor25 So does Starfleet.
One of my favorite theories and helped me learn a lot about economics 10/10 theory too. 👍
I love the old intro.
We will miss you matpat
"Empeor Palpatine was pretty harmless"
Also emperor Palpatine killing innocent members of the senate and having hostile takeovers on planets.
And that whole thing where, you know, he ALLOWED ONE OF HIS OFFICERS TO BLOW UP A HEAVILY POPULATED PLANET. You know. Harmless.
He himself was somewhat harmless. Tarkin, Vader, Veers, and all his main officers, however, were really dangerous men due to what he let them get away with.
@@benjaminfricke4791 which saved millions more than it killed (by scaring others so they don't fight) and only happened because the Jedi attacked.
Rhoda Swartz
Except the opposite happened. There was a massive backlash against the Destruction of Alderaan that made the Rebels a genuine threat.
He enslaved Wookiees
This makes me realize how much I want to see multiple factions battle it out for control of a broken galaxy. Sequels, you could have been so much more...
Jordan Game of galaxy
reed the legends expanded universe books like hair to the empire witch take place post battle of Endor.
Legends is far better warlords era is the best to get up to date with I wont go on major spoilers ahead if I did so go check it out.
Jordan that would be badass
Mandalore according to Star Wars Lore is the most adequate to rule this broken political system after the Empire
Palpatine dies you say?
Palpatine: double it and give it to someone else
Matpat: the death star was the largest military base in the whole galaxy!!!
A FeW YeArs laTeR.....
THE STARKILLER BASE WHICH WAS 20 x the size of the death star: YOU DARE TO DEFY YOUR MORTAL!!!!!
Oh and btw I checked wookiepedia and the death star destroyed 178 planets alone in its history sooo... Yeah and don't forget the emperial cruelty that they gave to their citizens so I think it was fair that both the death star and the star killer base should had been destroyed.
Destroying Alderann pretty much ruined any chances of anyone showing sympathy for the Empire. In the books the Empire destroying a planet caused massive defections and support for the Rebellion. Think about the economic impact the annihilation of one of the core worlds would have.
The First Order blew up a whole system of core worlds think about the impact of THAT
Alverant that would have a big debt ,but what if the amount of money and resources in the star wars galaxy for the company's that supplied and made the death star at least was large enough that they could have just blinked it off like a new sting
or what if only two or three planets that where already making that much steel on their own where the only ones who put money into the death star and where somewhat cutoff from the rest of the galaxy
also you could have just said the galactic great depression and been done
or at least mark at could have
I'm a Gaming Dragon The bad English is strong in this one...
Also there is Jedha, Scraif and the NEW REPUBLIC SYSTEM!!!
Everyone hated the empire, and the transition wasn't smooth. They declared non-humans second class citizens, held the entire senate hostage until they signed a treaty, invaded Corroscant, and destroyed the Jedi Temple. Poverty rates were at an all time high, they forced certain species like Wookies into slavery. Basically, everyone hated these guys. The rebels WEREN'T terrorists just like the US Marine Corp isn't full of terrorists. These people declared a WAR, and they weren't committing acts of terror to scare people. That's what the EMPIRE was doing, they blew up a whole planet, and intended to blow up more. They used fear to keep people inline. The Alliance didn't kill innocents to state a message, but the Empire did.
The economy crashed with the empire, and under a new system of government, it could heal again.
EDIT: Yes I know the difference between the Sith Empire and Palpatine's Empire, yes I got them mixed up. I acknowledged that, please stop commenting about it.
+Xelipho Wow, you really have no fucking idea do you?
"held the entire senate hostage until they signed a treaty, invaded Corroscant, and destroyed the Jedi Temple."
YEAH. 3000 YEARS BEFORE EPISODE 1!
That is not even a little relevant to the discussion. What the fuck?
"The rebels WEREN'T terrorists just like the US Marine Corp isn't full of terrorists"
That doesn't even make sense. The US marine corps are a branch of the United states military whilst the rebels are a stateless political organization. What the fuck are you even talking about?
" and intended to blow up more."
You just made that up. There is a direct source that shows that the Empire did not intend to destroy any more planets than Aldeeran.
This is just pathetic.
You are just making stuff up.
"The Alliance didn't kill innocents to state a message, but the Empire did." So those 800,000 civilians aboard the death star didn't exist then?
Don't be an idiot (although you already act as one if your comment is anything to judge by) the Rebels killed millions of innocent people as well.
+Jen'Ari-Asha didn't Vader say "start with Alderon "?
Whoo! A true theorist, you are. MatPat overlooked a lot of things with this one, I wonder if he's baiting us... or if he was rushed. Also, ignore the troll, the comment is its own undoing. I think the intergalactic culture difference is one of the main things overlooked here.
Karl M I don't remember Vader saying that. However, what he said is irrelevant. Because we know exactly what the Empire would do with the death star.
And after Aldeeran they were not planning to destroy any more planets.
Honestly, read Star wars infinities: a new hope.
It is a book were the Empire defeats the Rebels.
It clearly shows what the Empire was planning to do.
Did they destroy more planets? Nope.
Did they use it to terrorize planets? Nope.
Did they use it as a weapon? Nope.
They renamed it "The Justice Star" and put it in orbit around Coruscant as a symbol of peace and justice.
The Justice Star quickly became the new Galactic Capital.
That was until R2-D2 and Yoda hijacked it and crashed it into Coruscant, killing billions of innocent people in the process.
That is exactly what the Empire was planning to do, as well as what the Rebels were planning to do if they lost.
They would kill billions of innocent people as long as they killed Palpatine in the process.
God damn religious fanatics.
+Jen'Ari-Asha last time i checked killing stormtroopers isn't killing innocent people
in universe, the death star cost around 1 trillion credits and almost 20 years to build
Boba Fett: Um, yeah. Let me get out of this kriffing pit and I'll be right with you. Someone get my armor away from those silly Jawas while you're at it?
The empire probably just took all their resources without paying any credits.
+Hipster Spock I think it did.
The Empire used slaves and droids to build the Death Star and gather the resources to build it, and it was a secret project so barely anyone outside high ranking military knew about it, plus Stormtroopers don't get paid. So pretty much this entire video was a moot point. Of course only people who are obsessive Star Wars fans (such as moi) would know those points so I can forgive matpat.
+Nick J. If you can prove that anything you said is canon (which I guarantee you can't) it doesn't matter.
If it isn't in Star Wars Ep 1-7, Clone Wars, or Rebels it doesn't count.
So no, the entire video is not a moot point.
Lonelynightm That info comes from the EU, which is not part of the Disney Canon, true. But it can be assumed that if Disney does not contradict it, it can be considered ambiguous canon.
Nick J.
That is not how canon works. Is or is not. There is no sorta canon. It is as simple as that.
''the steel is just the beginning''
and the next part is...
the plastic needed to make a LEGO death star
Both of the lego death stars because there are two of them
I feel better about the Lego choice I made, because there's less pieces for good old 75060. (From some of the prices I saw looking for that thing, you need to bring in quite a few bounties alive.)
i love Star wars so i am really happy you made a video on it.
wow
This was made in 2016. 5 years ago. God, this makes me feel old.
Wow, That would actually make a much better story than what was actually in Episode VII. Imagine the galaxy being in economic ruins while the new republic struggles to maintain order and rebuild. Meanwhile Grand Admiral Thrawn gathers and organizes the imperial remnant forces to strike at the New Republic during their weakest moment.
I vote we scrap episode 7, 8 and 9 and work with this plot line.
Pretty sure that each like is a vote. I voted.
Agreed
Death Star was an inside job, Vader was on his tie fighter when it went down.
Coincidence? I think not!
and dead on a shuttle while the second one blew up.
Actally it WAS A inside job thanks to the new movie rogue one... huh.
And after Luke burnt his father's body his son founds grandad and boom
Also is it me or does this family goes like...
First son becomes Jedai but then he becomes a Sith
*Here is the loop*
Son gets born becomes Jedai
The son of that son becomes Sith
And just like that this never stops!
Lol
You say the emperor came to power while the normal people just lived out their life, but he literally created a galactic war to get his power.
To be fair, the Empire did put all it's eggs into one basket... Twice...
wait star bucks wants to take the empires place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????
+Rage Mage Star Bucks...Star Wars...Coincidence? I think not!
+Saphiria TheBlueDragonKnight At first it took me a while to recognize what you were saying xD, I get it Star Bucks(money) for Star Wars
so does the Federation
+Rage Mage I think the money in Star Wars should be called Starbucks. Not only is it a great name, just think of the product placement dollars they'd be raking in!
+Saphiria TheBlueDragonKnight star BUCKS,what would be missing after destroying the death stars(money)
So if we can't build the death star then what about the star forge?
if you can find out the science behind it, ill make one for you
Ian Baker What if some one else finds out the science behind it. Does the credit for the idea still go to me?
+we'll bang okay gamer poop... haha
we'll bang okay no, but I'll make one regardless
Ian Baker Then what can I have
I love the intro, always start dancing when it starts
For some reason the film theory intro feels more nostalgic than the game theory intro
A slight problem with the start of your theory - it's an Empire building the Death Star, not a democracy, and a galaxy-wide Empire capable of extracting materials from multiple planets and teleporting them and not paying for anything because he's in charge, so....yeah.
You still have to feed and house your workers. Even slave labor isn't free, because slaves cost resources to maintain.
@@andrewpatton5114 Slavery is damagin to any economy
You would want to incorporate people and make them join your economy not enslave them
@@_NeoImperia_ Slavery does not damage an economy, it's actually extremely lucrative. The issue is human rights which is why slavery is bad. If you read the first Darth Bane book you see an example of how these people are forced to work on planets just to get basic sustenance and in such massive debt they can never leave, so the companies that hire/own these workers make a huge profit by barely paying anything for the workers.
actually the emperor seemed to want to kickstart the economy and make the galaxy flourish so although I'm sure he bought at steep discount prices I feel like he would pay something at least
We need to build a Death Star, and we're going to make the Martians pay for it!
lol
space Trump!
Your fired
+Baby Dragon
HELL NO!
thd death stump
"left the majority population alone"
You know there was an entire war orchestrated by palpatine to seize that transition of power you know?
Just imagine how the movies would play out if the rebels actually saw this before they went to blow up the first Death Star
Hey, good guy Palpatine, y'know he employed millions, and created a stable galactic government.
"Employed" lol the same way Americas food companies "employ" workers.
+Yamik They were even worse. Doesn't seem possible, but they were.
+John Sledge Was still a nazi.
+John Sledge Except they were enslaved.
Just go through the list of peoples enslaved by the empire or forced into work camps or all the various papers the empire treated non-humans like scum of the earth.
Vader letting on a robot, or trandoshan to the bounty hunters would have been considered extreme and bizarre which goes to show how backwards the emperor was
+John Sledge What about that time he ordered his military to blow up two planets? Good economy or no, that's pretty bad.
11:40 Starbucks is a *REBEL CONSPIRACY!*
Eishaaya yeah and Star Trek
NANI?!?!?!?!?!
This man legit compared the destruction of the Death Star to 9/11
I love Film Theory lmao
One of the most important things to consider is that precisely in this is why the star wars worlds galactic empire had such horrible working conditions and slave mines hidden on different planets, the costs were cut by colonizing and exploiting planets (one could assume based on animated series content and this video etc). pretty nuts
Luke didn't destroy it though! The Death Star was an inside job!
SupremeEdgeLord YES HE DID, DID YOU EVEN SEE THE MOVIE. HE SHOT A MISSLE INTO THE DEATH STAR SO HE DESTROYED IT
The hedgehog God can't tell if joking or serious
The Force can't melt Quadanium steel.
How was it inside job, the empire would have known the economy factor, why waster the resources to just to make the rebalance feel like they won a important battle. I'm curious why
Random Master Is it a coincidence they invaded Hoth after? They wanted that precious oil!
“There’s a force in the galaxy more dangerous than the dark side”. I know, it’s rough coarse and gets everywhere. SAND
We ARE the Empire!
I fear sand more than anything else in the universe.
''Killing of major world leaders is bad'' Gavrilo Pincip would like to argue with that
Luke is the Star Wars equivalent of Osma Bin Laden
Multiple planets were actually enslaved by the Empire, and the Empire is very well known for being *EXTREMELY* racist, so I doubt the majority of the galaxy "doesn't realize how evil the Emperor and Vader are". Just sayin' :P.
+wishbone346 The galaxy was indoctrinated by them. All media was controlled by the government. People basically considered them Gods.
The Rebels were looked upon the same way we look upon Al-Qaeda.
+wishbone346 not canon. also the correct term would be speciesist, not racist. The empire didn't care what race of human you were int he now noncanon EU.
Jen'Ari-Asha Not really. If you watch Rebels, which is canon, you see that most people honestly didn't like Imperial rule. The Empire ruled with an iron fist. They would kill any who did not fall in line in the streets, or send them off to prisons. The majority of alien races don't seem to like them at all, and even among humans there's a decent amount of dissension. People forget that the Empire only ruled for about 3 or 4 decades too. They didn't exactly have time to indoctrinate everyone. There are plenty of people who would have lived through all of the events leading up to the Empire's creation. Luke was born the same year the Empire was founded and he's not even in his 20's by the time of A New Hope. The Empire would have one, maybe two generations of kids that would be completely indoctrinated, and even they would likely have some older people in their lives trying to sway them. Hell, we see quite a few people (kids included) that turn on the Empire with little effort or proof just because someone tells them of the evils going on. If the Empire wasn't known for that sort of thing people probably wouldn't be so quick to believe the "lies" of rebels.
wishbone346 Rebels can go fall in a sarlaac pit. It is an unrealistic kids show where a single B wing took out an entire Imperial fleet.
Rebels can go fuck itself, its horrendous.
Several books state that the Core Worlds (Where most of the galactic population lives) is completely indoctrinated by the Empire and have a fanatical loyalty to Palpatine.
Pretty much 100% of people there considered the Empire a symbol of peace and order, and the Rebels terrorists.
Source. Imperial handbook (can probably find more if you want)
GayWeedDad420YOLO Actually it's not the EU that states this, it's all from the canon. Watch Rebels and read the Tarkin book. They both show slavery quite blatantly. In the Tarkin book they flat out say that the Death Star was built using Geonosian slave labor. They most certainly did care what species you were, even in the canon.
And you're telling me after this they went and made a SECOND one?!?
"Emperor, the Death Star has been destroyed!"
"Huh? Oh, no biggie. We can just extrapolate the universe and make another."
Maybe they already had another in production and when the first blew up the second was already near completion.
The second one was built onto the remains of the first death star.
But the first one completely exploded... what was left?
Sophie the Jedi Knight It was blown up yes, but the film only shows the blast. Not what was left behind. It was likely large portions like the inner frame scattered in size ably large pieces.
Ah. That makes sense. Thanks.
This might be my favorite theory ever on this channel 💕
Sadly Matt will be leaving
“We can’t track ( insert number here) amount of dollars”
Next day: ✈️✈️🗼🗼
Ok but how much toilet paper would the death star need
Don't Mind Me is ur brain all right or do u have cancer
Cuz I have cancer too XD
a crap ton
MORE THAN A MILLION.
Don't Mind Me *facepalm*
A *crap* ton... pun intended
I like this theory, BUT:
I think we can assume a few more things about the Empire and how it dealt with its populace. We can assume, for starters, that the resources, labor and cost it took to build the Death Star (remember. It's called the DEATH. STAR.) would not have been taken ethically. A common theory (in fact, I believe it's technically confirmed) is that Geonosians were either used as slaves by force, or coerced (much like the Trade Federation were in the Prequels) to construct the Death Star. It can also be assumed, then, that Geonosis itself must have been a profitable resource planet, based on all the massive industry we can see going on there in Episode II. Therefore, we can assume that the vast majority, or possibly ALL of the resources used in constructing the Death Star were gathered from Geonosis for relatively free, and the labor used would have been free as well. After the construction of the Death Star, the Empire would have smartly turned on Geonosis and all its populace, destroying the planet, eradicating any debts or obligations it would have had toward it's people.
Secondly, we're not dealing with a free, sovereign nation here. We're dealing with a Galactic Empire. They wouldn't have had to go into debt in order to gather funding for the Death Star. Just like they took labor and resources from Geonosis, they would have simply taken monetary funding by force from other planets by raising the taxes - not by borrowing money from other (non-existent at the time) nations like the United States does as a democratic nation in *this* galaxy.
The final part about multiple factions rushing for a power grab after the collapse of the Empire is totally right. In fact, it's safe to say we're witnessing the results of that in the Sequel Trilogy.
Remember how after WWII, the USSR and NATO competed in a Cold War to grab power over a crumbled Nazi regime? The exact same thing is happening in the Star Wars galaxy at this point in the series, only far more violent. We can assume that the New Republic, with their "Capitol-from-the-Hunger-Games-esque" way of life represents western NATO states, whereas the First Order, with their authoritarian, dictatorship-style regime, represents the USSR. What's being shown in TFA is what would have potentially happened had an all-out nuclear war taken place in an alternative Cold War timeline.
Oh, and the Resistance? Yeah, that kind of reminds me of the guerrillas from the Bay of Pigs, and other extremist groups the US funded during the Cold War. Of course, I'm no historian, but that's a fun thought to entertain.
+PicturaSonus Bingo.
+PicturaSonus I think they used mostly wookie slaves, but otherwise you are correct.
+PicturaSonus Love this, I just wrote a badly worded version of this before I saw it.
In fact the empire killed off most of the geonosians after construction began in order to hide its true purpose. Also most imperials had no idea of the battle station's true purpose.
Much sense this makes!
You are forgetting that mining metal in space with the Technology that they have would cost much less because of the amount of metal that there is in space so it would cost much less
Not your strongest theory. You not only underestimate the effect on people’s lives caused by the Empire’s tyranny (the few on-screen violations committed by the Empire that you mention in this video are probably not even the tip of the iceberg of the regime’s brutality - living under a dictatorship is _no_ cake-walk) but also the harm that would be caused by allowing the Death Start to remain in operation. Not only would Alderaan likely _not_ have been the _only_ planet destroyed by it had the Rebels not destroyed it first - but there would be further consequences that I will get into in a bit.
You also over-estimate the alternative methods of revolution that the rebels had.
Yes - doing a revolution peacefully is preferable -- when it is possible. But unfortunately, that is not always the case - and it would not likely be the case. And chances are, the Empire was _very_ well guarded against any peaceful means of revolution that could have been attempted. And having a weapon capable of exploding any planet that got out of line would not have made that task any easier. (See? I _said_ I would get into the further consequences of allowing the Death Start to remain in operations - and I just did.)
Frankly - yes -- war can be destructive - and it can hurt economies. But there really was no alternative when it came to overthrowing a brutal dictator like Palpatine.