Film Theory: Star Wars, How The Mandalorian PROVES the Empire was Right!

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024
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    With the return of The Mandalorian season 2 to Disney+, I felt it was about time to also return to a Star Wars theory. In a previous theory, I talked about how the Jedi could be construed as an 'evil' order. Today, I'm taking that kind of idea and flipping it to talk about the Empire itself! I think The Mandalorian provides us with even more clues that the Empire may not be as wrong in it's philosophy as we thought! How? Why? Well Theorists, make sure you Baby Yoda is somewhere safe because this is about to take a turn to the dark side...
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Комментарии • 17 тыс.

  • @jaimelannister1797
    @jaimelannister1797 4 года назад +18593

    They even reduced crime rate on Alderaan to zero

    • @ct183
      @ct183 4 года назад +675

      yeah thanks sheev!

    • @HotCoals
      @HotCoals 4 года назад +331

      Too soon

    • @Master_Skywalker09
      @Master_Skywalker09 4 года назад +313

      Yes my master

    • @HotCoals
      @HotCoals 4 года назад +84

      @Lord Waluigi TOO. SOON.

    • @haicoai6269
      @haicoai6269 4 года назад +16

      Gyes
      ohruclips.net/video/zFJ2AN_CZH8/видео.html

  • @kaisermaximal8123
    @kaisermaximal8123 4 года назад +1065

    Reminds me of a quote from Genghis Khan:
    "Conquering the world on horseback is easy, it is dismounting and governing it that is difficult"

    • @hiesisme907
      @hiesisme907 4 года назад +39

      Also Hamilton the musical said wining is easy governing is harder

    • @erenjaeger4669
      @erenjaeger4669 4 года назад +8

      True that was what happened to gengesh Khan empire

    • @Seasonal-Shadow_4674
      @Seasonal-Shadow_4674 4 года назад

      What were your thoughts on Season 2 Episode 7?

    • @rashidahmed3527
      @rashidahmed3527 3 года назад +3

      The empire is like the russian federation of today and putin is seen as the ultimate leader and tsar.if you don,t believe me just look at palpatine and putin more properly,both are trying their best to bring order and peace to the galaxy and russia which the jedi,s and western leader never wanted.they are only interested in collecting resources from weak and helpless people and alien for their own personal gain and nothing else.so when the empire was fallen the native alien of their planets were being robbed,hunted,raped,murdered and their resources taken from them and that,s why the first order was form to try to bring order and peace to the galaxy by removing the republic who are the real monsters and not the first order

    • @kodaxmax
      @kodaxmax 3 года назад +2

      Counter argument; ghengis just sucked at governing and basically just delegated everything to his children and generals

  • @bensfanclubpresident2614
    @bensfanclubpresident2614 4 года назад +2913

    I once saw “The empire did nothing wrong” written on a bathroom ceiling

    • @darlasteindler3539
      @darlasteindler3539 4 года назад +9

      @Fnaf fox Fan Why tho

    • @liker-qd4fz
      @liker-qd4fz 4 года назад +55

      Me who wrote that on the ceeling of my former school's bathroom : *Odin is with us!*

    • @RandomGuy0400
      @RandomGuy0400 4 года назад +15

      I once saw an image of a bathroom stall with "you look nice today" written on the inside of the door.

    • @liker-qd4fz
      @liker-qd4fz 4 года назад +6

      @Christian Salluce Maybe a minecraft mod that replaces Mob spawners with Toilets and all mobs are Skletons disguised as stormtroopers , with arrows being lazers and blasters as bows.

    • @KetaminePizzaGhost
      @KetaminePizzaGhost 4 года назад +1

      @Corn Peyton like having both a swastika, and a hammer and sickle next to each other

  • @colinivey1546
    @colinivey1546 2 года назад +434

    Fun fact, Alderaan had an extremely powerful private military, that if it had survived, would have been a huge thorn in the empires side.

    • @dafoex
      @dafoex Год назад +49

      Alderaan was also separatist. Granted, that could just be a 51% attack on every other political view on the planet, but at least 51% of the people voted in a separatist government and were not innocent in the Empire's eyes.
      Also, Alderaan had a small population, Obi-Wan only says that "millions of voices" were silenced. It depends on how you're counting, but earth currently has billions of inhabitants.

    • @shelldie8523
      @shelldie8523 Год назад +8

      ​@@dafoexI don't remember which episode but Cara dune mentiones a number when talking to the Chinese pilot guy.

    • @philv2529
      @philv2529 9 месяцев назад +8

      Well then it was a good thing for the Empire that they blew Alderan up

    • @AlechiaTheWitch
      @AlechiaTheWitch 8 месяцев назад +3

      Lets not forget in legends they beat the sith in a fist fight.

    • @Highly-grounded
      @Highly-grounded 25 дней назад +2

      Almost like house atreides from dune

  • @annaharrington8397
    @annaharrington8397 3 года назад +2619

    In season two, mayfield says something along the lines of “It doesn’t matter who rules to these people. Empire, republic, they’re all just people taking over their homes”

    • @knightbot23
      @knightbot23 3 года назад +69

      Man i love that episode so much mayfield in season 2 was so good

    • @iszox2973
      @iszox2973 3 года назад +80

      Also Mayfield in this episode: Remembers Operation Cinder and just shoots an imperial for beeing pure evil

    • @horatioyen256
      @horatioyen256 3 года назад +9

      yes thankyou for mentioning this

    • @edgemaxxer1573
      @edgemaxxer1573 3 года назад +50

      It's true. Colonized countries don't care who's ruling them bad guys or good guys they just see them as invaders taking their stuff

    • @Lord-Inquisitor
      @Lord-Inquisitor 3 года назад +10

      @@edgemaxxer1573 Don't care? No wonder they don't have spines enough to defend their stuff in the first place. That's their first mistake, right there.

  • @raptorzeraora2632
    @raptorzeraora2632 3 года назад +1713

    About alderann, palpatine got pretty mad when it blew up, he said that tarkin was lucky he died on the death star, I wonder what palpatine was planning on doing to tarkin if he survived

    • @eatonkuntz
      @eatonkuntz 2 года назад +45

      Also, alderaan had a very low population and yes, some were innocent but it was also a military target that was hosting, funding, and leading a violent rebellion. The USA nuked two entire manufacturing cities in WW2, firebombed helpless puppet countries, invaded the Middle East for decades, etc. All in the name of peace and order to minimize the loss of life. So "millions of voices silenced" on alderaan seems like the price to save an entire galaxy from further violence.

    • @nigelxd3735
      @nigelxd3735 2 года назад +47

      Actually wasn't Palpatine from Alderan, maybe I'm confusing it with Nabu or Corosant

    • @knightofblackfyre7950
      @knightofblackfyre7950 2 года назад +144

      @@nigelxd3735 Palpatine was from Naboo I think

    • @nigelxd3735
      @nigelxd3735 2 года назад +13

      @@knightofblackfyre7950 oh, nevermind then

    • @Revan-293
      @Revan-293 2 года назад +80

      @@eatonkuntz Alderaan had a massive population, sure is wasn’t on coruscaunt levels of population but still a lot

  • @Banana-ip7hr
    @Banana-ip7hr 3 года назад +2198

    "Yo dude the empire is pretty chill , maybe you can like , join it or something."
    so Darth Vader is telling the truth

    • @i3igbro667
      @i3igbro667 3 года назад +32

      Underrated.

    • @AndrewAce.
      @AndrewAce. 3 года назад +47

      *Later Vader:* _"I LIED. As I have from the beginning..."_

    • @thomashaeyen6942
      @thomashaeyen6942 3 года назад +23

      [[3:32]] **shows the flag of the galactic republic when discussing the empire and shows some random monstrosity when discussing the republic**

    • @ryandunham1047
      @ryandunham1047 3 года назад +2

      I literally just read that in Beavis and Butthead's voices! XD

    • @smartfrenandromax6651
      @smartfrenandromax6651 2 года назад +2

      He gave an option, like he did to Obi-Wan. A censored plot is, he also gave an option to the Jedi Younglings. See My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic's "School Raze".

  • @NanashiAkai
    @NanashiAkai 2 года назад +361

    About the empire and the ewoks, I'm not sure about current canon, but in legends the ewoks and the empire were certainly not on good terms by the time the rebels got there. This one elderly ex-stormtrooper even recounts the events like a survival horror story, slowly losing more and more members of his platoon to the dreaded ewoks. In the end when he was captured, he begged for the rebels to take him instead of leaving him to the ewoks.

    • @AlechiaTheWitch
      @AlechiaTheWitch 2 года назад +36

      Yeah. They sorta ate them alivr and hjng them. Not "friendly"

    • @aaronburkeen6409
      @aaronburkeen6409 2 года назад +36

      Well that might explain why the stormtroopers were leaving them alone. They wanted no part of that.

    • @Woopor
      @Woopor Год назад +17

      I think that Ex Stormtrooper musta played too much Ewok Hunt

    • @shaydowsith348
      @shaydowsith348 Год назад +12

      This is true. Ewoks were known to eat sapient beings.

    • @koharumi1
      @koharumi1 Год назад +13

      They did want to cook the rebels when they first met. They probably just wanted to have chicken again.

  • @morganszymanski9006
    @morganszymanski9006 4 года назад +1334

    So what you're saying is...
    Winning was easy, governing's harder?

    • @kh2b573
      @kh2b573 4 года назад +75

      Communism moment

    • @iaculat
      @iaculat 4 года назад +60

      𝙝𝙤𝙬 𝙙𝙖𝙧𝙚 𝙮𝙤𝙪, 𝙞 𝙟𝙪𝙨𝙩 𝙜𝙤𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙨𝙤𝙣𝙜 𝙤𝙪𝙩 𝙤𝙛 𝙢𝙮 𝙝𝙚𝙖𝙙.

    • @theamericanbrotha
      @theamericanbrotha 3 года назад +9

      Agreed

    • @patrickcurtis642
      @patrickcurtis642 3 года назад +36

      Cough cough (French revolution) cough cough

    • @akunlama89
      @akunlama89 3 года назад +2

      Mongol moment

  • @EvanJTao
    @EvanJTao 4 года назад +2652

    “I promise I won’t get all political”
    Me three drinks later:

    • @nabeelfarooq3573
      @nabeelfarooq3573 4 года назад +18

      I’m wondering what is the red thing on your profile pic can you tell me?

    • @pcdog7027
      @pcdog7027 4 года назад +14

      @@nabeelfarooq3573a broken heart I think

    • @nabeelfarooq3573
      @nabeelfarooq3573 4 года назад +6

      @@pcdog7027 k thanks

    • @alexandrothealright9818
      @alexandrothealright9818 4 года назад +16

      @@nabeelfarooq3573 it’s a variant of the logo for Green Day’s American Idiot. A symbol for Rage and Love or something like that if I remember correctly.

    • @nabeelfarooq3573
      @nabeelfarooq3573 4 года назад +3

      @@alexandrothealright9818 nice

  • @Xwii610
    @Xwii610 3 года назад +1518

    Leia: I'm on a diplomatic mission to alderan
    Vader *having just watched rogue one*: 🤨

    • @m.c.martin
      @m.c.martin 3 года назад +95

      Vader: Then why are you in the Outer Rim in the opposite of the Galaxy from Alderaan?

    • @LegoBob4123
      @LegoBob4123 3 года назад +57

      @@m.c.martin she is taking the scenic route

    • @Order-si7nd
      @Order-si7nd 3 года назад +16

      Vader I know it’s sus but we can always use the truth gas to get the truth

    • @aroberuto
      @aroberuto 3 года назад +13

      That's one of many things that why rogue one doesn't work

    • @aaronfidelis3188
      @aaronfidelis3188 3 года назад +10

      Vader (in Palpatine's voice):
      "How unfortunate it is that you are attempting to deceive me..."

  • @raccoonsarecool9888
    @raccoonsarecool9888 2 года назад +231

    I think I also read somewhere that while jedi aren't allowed to have connections or communicate to friends of family after they have been "taken in for training", stormtroopers of the empire only aren't allowed to communicate to others when they are in the death star because it has to stay hidden.

    • @jeremiahsnelson5644
      @jeremiahsnelson5644 2 года назад +40

      I mean. The difference is that one is a military organization, the other is a religious one.

    • @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel
      @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel 2 года назад +16

      Also, Anakin went and visited his mother, remember? While the jedi teach detachment, they clearly do not force it and nobody is prohibited from leaving the order for good if they want. Anakin and his mom both wanted him to become a jedi.

    • @loafstudios8811
      @loafstudios8811 2 года назад +21

      @@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel yeah, he wasnt allowed to, he was meant to stay on Naboo

    • @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel
      @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel 2 года назад +10

      @@loafstudios8811
      He was supposed to stay on Naboo, because that was his assignment. That doesn't necessarily mean that he was forbidden from visiting his family, though. Granted, it certainly looks that way, but I don't think they ever explicitly mentioned it in any piece of media that's canon.

    • @greenmountainhistory7335
      @greenmountainhistory7335 Год назад +6

      Yeah, I mean Gary even has a daughter that he brings to work with him sometimes.

  • @SystemZ3RO
    @SystemZ3RO 4 года назад +614

    When the client says the Empire improves every system it touches, he's not wrong. Just doesn't state who benefits from it. I wouldn't say Mimban, Kashyyyk, Lothal, Mustafar,
    Geonosis, Ryloth, Mon Cala, or Mandalore where improved by the Empire so much as they improved the Empire of the backs of the inhabitants.

    • @SlashCraftJack
      @SlashCraftJack 4 года назад +31

      The Empire itself benefits, just not the locals.

    • @bowenjudd1028
      @bowenjudd1028 4 года назад +2

      What about Coruscant.

    • @davidfrazier8320
      @davidfrazier8320 4 года назад +33

      Don't forget Illum, Kamino, MonCala, Mandalore, Dantooine, Tattooine.Basically ever planet they've touched. And the fact that the Empire would send scouts looking for any force sensitive child they could to corrupt them to the Dark Side.
      Sorry this theory still doesn't hold too much water. But hey its from a certain point of view.

    • @SystemZ3RO
      @SystemZ3RO 4 года назад +13

      ​@@bowenjudd1028 There isn't enough content from either Canon or Legends to see how the day to day for the typical Coruscant citizen post Clone Wars/Pre-Endor, though I would imagine it'd still be the same as it was before the Empire for anyone living in the lower levels. AKA Still pretty crappy.
      Any "good" the Empire brought to a system was only for the best interest of the Empire itself. whether or nor the locals benefited from that was of little interest to the Empire.

    • @haicoai6269
      @haicoai6269 4 года назад +1

      Goh
      yesruclips.net/video/zFJ2AN_CZH8/видео.html

  • @ryderfletcher8670
    @ryderfletcher8670 4 года назад +630

    If you’ve read the book “lost stars” it shows multiple planets exploited for all its resources, entire species put into slavery and a complete disregard for all life including their own officers while the galaxy was under imperial rule.

    • @Stiksta
      @Stiksta 4 года назад +69

      There's zero cohesiveness in expanded universe content honestly. One author can be brainwashed by the movie's with the propaganda that the empire is this evil malevolent force. So they'll write their stories as such. The other author can see the movies for what they are and pay more attention to create consistent narratives. I can see why Disney wanted to just throw it all out into the trash even though I completely disagree with how they did it.

    • @sonnic1995
      @sonnic1995 4 года назад +46

      @@Stiksta That's the thing. From just the movies, as it should be, he made this theory, and it fits. Not saying comics and all that shouldn't exist, but from the context of the movies all of them, Lucas, "modern Lucas" and Disney did a shitty job portraying the empire as being pure evil (in terms of how this video was able to put the theory) except for the Tarkin speech or wathever, pretty much everything was just from the movies. Long story short, my point is he has a valid point for this theory saying the good guys are the one you see thru certain point of view.

    • @ZulatobariGreatforge
      @ZulatobariGreatforge 4 года назад +6

      @@sonnic1995 I think the Genosha massacre and slavery stuff was remade canon? Or at least the massacre bit in a comic line.

    • @haicoai6269
      @haicoai6269 4 года назад

      Goh
      yesruclips.net/video/zFJ2AN_CZH8/видео.html

    • @boof606
      @boof606 4 года назад +8

      I mean so did most countries on earth but we don’t really talk about that

  • @noahperley318
    @noahperley318 4 года назад +1353

    Teacher: What have you learned in this video?
    Me: MatPat is a sith lord

    • @neadst
      @neadst 3 года назад +49

      A Sith Lord?

    • @noahperley318
      @noahperley318 3 года назад +56

      @@neadst Yes, the one we’ve been looking for..

    • @astaroth_sasazaki_yt
      @astaroth_sasazaki_yt 3 года назад +34

      DarthPat is real

    • @Idrinkmilk13
      @Idrinkmilk13 3 года назад +5

      That is a good thing

    • @Mike_Dubo
      @Mike_Dubo 3 года назад +13

      But is he the master, or the apprentice?

  • @sanccex313
    @sanccex313 Год назад +34

    Bro palpatine is just chillin in a chair, he doesn't has a luxurious life

    • @RobT192
      @RobT192 6 месяцев назад

      Are you joking? Yeah and the King of England lives a average life

  • @bassboi02
    @bassboi02 2 года назад +1233

    Something that wasn't mentioned that is actually integral: the second Death Star was purposely made to look unfinished to trick the rebels. When the battle of endor happened the second Death Star was in fact finished, which is why they had to disable the shield and why Sidious was present in the battle station

    • @AzraelThanatos
      @AzraelThanatos 2 года назад +147

      Not finished, but the majority of its systems were online. They just delayed the completion of the superstructure in order to complete the trap.
      It was planned to be finished later on.

    • @f-jayplayz6236
      @f-jayplayz6236 2 года назад +53

      @@AzraelThanatos yeah the weapons were what weren’t supposed to be finished but they ended up being “fully operational” the station itself wasn’t done

    • @gangzhu9932
      @gangzhu9932 2 года назад +13

      palpatine did have a fleet of star destroyers jump in later...
      and he had tons of imperial forces capturing the rebel ground team...
      and he also did seem to know the rebels were going to comme attack the death star

    • @bassboi02
      @bassboi02 2 года назад +5

      @@gangzhu9932 Exactly. So he lured them him tricking them into thinking the death star was still being constructed

    • @ultimate_capper3643
      @ultimate_capper3643 2 года назад +7

      This makes literally zero since if you remember HOW they destroyed the second Death Star. They literally went INSIDE an exhaust port that brought them to the core. You would think that if the station was actually finished or if it was made to LOOK like it was unfinished that they would at least remove the problem that destroyed the first Death Star. But no they didn’t, which indicates that it WASN’T finished.
      Plus do you seriously expect me to believe that they likely would’ve finished the Death Star when the first one took 19 years to build, and that one was significantly smaller than the second one???

  • @benjamindury6580
    @benjamindury6580 4 года назад +427

    You should do a theory on how much the imperial credits are worth.

  • @MARCUSK298
    @MARCUSK298 4 года назад +8229

    They had slavery under the empire.. they committed genocide on geonosis to build the death star

    • @an8strengthkobold360
      @an8strengthkobold360 4 года назад +1011

      and the wookies

    • @wariorjimenez7306
      @wariorjimenez7306 4 года назад +577

      Also they never beat the huts there criminals. Order i dont see.

    • @anonymousapproximation8549
      @anonymousapproximation8549 4 года назад +514

      @@wariorjimenez7306 Because taking down the mafia in a single city didn't cause any problems _whatsoever,_ much less the interstellar mafia.

    • @greenskittles8028
      @greenskittles8028 4 года назад +120

      I don’t see a problem

    • @ericposey4124
      @ericposey4124 4 года назад +746

      They had slavery under the republic too. Maybe not institutionalized slavery, but so widespread that nothing was really done about it.
      And that's ignoring Droids which I would argue is slavery too.
      Really what needs to be explored was how the CIS were the good guys in the prequel trilogy.

  • @Archfiend_Sushi7746
    @Archfiend_Sushi7746 2 года назад +190

    Also, most of the stormtroopers were relatively harmless, just doing their duty as soldiers. They’re either normal conscripted people from the Galaxy, or clones that are loyal to the empire’s cause of social order. It’s not like they’re hostile in every encounter, like pointed out with the Ewoks or how they are on Lothal in Rebels.

    • @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel
      @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel Год назад +8

      Yes, Stormtroopers would never do horrible things like... you know....
      Murdering an entire sand crawler of jawas because they *might* have seen something.
      Or burning an elderly farmer couple alive for the same reason.
      You know, if you ignore all the war crimes stormtroopers do, they are basically harmless, it's true.

    • @BookDefender777
      @BookDefender777 Год назад +13

      ​@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegelHe said most. "I was just following orders" never stopped being an excuse even in our amazing democracy and unfortunately as the video stated we need boots on the ground to keep people safe otherwise they fall victim to violent crime even more

    • @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel
      @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel Год назад

      @@BookDefender777 The point is that it doesn't matter if they are not murdering civilians *every* day, what matters is that they are all going to do it, when ordered to. And they will be, because the Empire is as evil as it gets.
      "We need the stormtroopers" makes no sense, because Tattooine was still a hive of scum and villainy even with, and probably especially, with the Empire there, because they did nothing to stop crime lords like Jabba, while burning civilians alive the moment they *might* become a problem.
      Tattooine looked way nicer in the prequels before the Empire took over, in fact.

    • @BookDefender777
      @BookDefender777 Год назад

      @@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel That’s not what the video said. Did you even watch it? You get any authoritarian party going on the offensive and you’ll find they end up committing some atrocities The Rebels included.

    • @midgetydeath
      @midgetydeath Год назад +1

      They’re not conscripted. In fact, if I remember correctly the Empire never used conscription.

  • @QuixoteX
    @QuixoteX 4 года назад +211

    I find it hilarious that people "discover" that there are problems with the republic and the Jedi order in the prequels, when that was literally the point of the prequels.

    • @baconeater4133
      @baconeater4133 4 года назад +38

      I think it's because people irrationally hated the prequels and didn't pay attention, or they only watched them as kids and didn't pick up on all the details until they rewatch them now

    • @eyesofthecervino3366
      @eyesofthecervino3366 4 года назад +28

      It's even there in the original trilogy: Luke had to turn against the advice of his Jedi mentors in order to face his father and defeat the Sith.

    • @Avenger85438
      @Avenger85438 4 года назад +1

      And how even worse people who don't care about others, can use these relatively minor problems to create scapegoats for their own agenda.

    • @Avenger85438
      @Avenger85438 4 года назад

      @@eyesofthecervino3366 It's a bit more nuanced then that. Since the first time he did that he was defeated and just got in the way of his friends saving Han.
      The message seems to be that your motives matter just as much as your actions. He wanted to save them because of how their pain affected him and ended badly. Luke wanted to save his father for his sake not his own and it worked out.
      In comparison. While Anakin wanted to save his loved ones as well he motives and actions where just so selfish and terrible it resulted in disaster. For the galaxy as well as himself.

    • @fl00fydragon
      @fl00fydragon 4 года назад +8

      Yes, but the point of the prequels is that stagnating to a status quo of capitalism and ignoring the constant political and economic problems it creates and not moving forward to a better system when your technological advancement allows you to do so creates the conflicts that allow for fascism to take over.
      The best way to describe the prequels is "why socialists criticize centrist liberals: the trilogy"

  • @gabrielegenota1480
    @gabrielegenota1480 4 года назад +564

    "The Weimar Republic was a failure!"
    - MatPat probably, circa 1939

    • @sion8
      @sion8 4 года назад +6

      "Ooooh!"

    • @rickgreenberg1872
      @rickgreenberg1872 4 года назад +3

      That’s a little redundant. Circa means approximately

    • @quackenbloke7871
      @quackenbloke7871 4 года назад +5

      True though

    • @sion8
      @sion8 4 года назад +10

      @@rickgreenberg1872
      They are referring to MatPat, as he would probably have said had he been in Germany circa 1939.

    • @gabrielegenota1480
      @gabrielegenota1480 4 года назад +3

      @@rickgreenberg1872 Oh wow- I think I used to know what that meant but the endless amount of "fake history' memes since then has made me forget lmao
      Thanks for the refresher

  • @christianmarshal6117
    @christianmarshal6117 4 года назад +3731

    In Luke’s defense the Ewoks were planning to cook and eat him and his friends...

    • @AndOnliCar
      @AndOnliCar 4 года назад +314

      I mean.. they did invade their place, didn't they?

    • @JimBoi8437
      @JimBoi8437 4 года назад +252

      I mean he didn't have to drag them into the war he could of just mind trick them into letting them go and that's it

    • @christianmarshal6117
      @christianmarshal6117 4 года назад +77

      @@AndOnliCar the Ewoks were working with the Rebellion before that. A lot of them died bringing the information about the second Death Star to the Rebellion in the third movie.

    • @korey8180
      @korey8180 4 года назад +24

      @@JimBoi8437 he didn't know how to do that yet did they?????
      I'm not sure lol

    • @shallbric6160
      @shallbric6160 4 года назад +3

      Yeah

  • @shaydowsith348
    @shaydowsith348 Год назад +158

    would be curious to see your perspective on this after you see what life under the Empire was like in "Andor".

    • @charlierock000
      @charlierock000 Год назад +49

      Andor is just Jedi propaganda

    • @InsideYourClosetRn69
      @InsideYourClosetRn69 Год назад +19

      @@charlierock000 as a former actor on andor that escaped, yes, andor is indeed propaganda

    • @benjaminkelly2733
      @benjaminkelly2733 Год назад +30

      Honestly I think most of the empire is still better than the republic

    • @Random_chaos_diver
      @Random_chaos_diver Год назад +6

      @@InsideYourClosetRn69agreed being a imperial storm trooper it is rebel propaganda

    • @centuriosupernumerarius1625
      @centuriosupernumerarius1625 Год назад +4

      Andor must be the propagandistic answer of the new republic to videos such as this.

  • @MattF1337
    @MattF1337 4 года назад +298

    Outer Rim worlds: “This is outrageous it’s unfair!”
    Core worlds: “Take a seat!”

    • @dingo7016
      @dingo7016 4 года назад +2

      Idk if ur comment is a lol or a sad thing to cry about

  • @haroldmemphisjr1809
    @haroldmemphisjr1809 4 года назад +677

    Yea guys, the empire helped make Alderaan's unemployment rate to 0%.

    • @ninjaneb1
      @ninjaneb1 4 года назад +35

      Though the flip side of that is that Alderaan's employment rate is also 0%

    • @tbnrrenagade9507
      @tbnrrenagade9507 4 года назад +38

      the empire also prevented over-population on Alderaan.

    • @MargoMayhem
      @MargoMayhem 4 года назад +28

      @@tbnrrenagade9507 also solved world hunger

    • @emperorvader283
      @emperorvader283 4 года назад +8

      @@ninjaneb1 can’t have unemployment if you don’t have a population

    • @ninjaneb1
      @ninjaneb1 4 года назад +2

      @@emperorvader283 same goes for the original comment, you can't have employment either if you don't have a population

  • @metrophidon
    @metrophidon 4 года назад +471

    Star Wars: "Matpat, Chancellor Palpatine is evil!"
    Matpat: "From my point of view, the Jedi are evil!"

  • @arcticsky2991
    @arcticsky2991 Год назад +312

    My take away is this
    Star wars is a war. No different from real life, there's no good guys or bad guys, there is only 2 sides fighting for control of something

    • @deviousalemanni4235
      @deviousalemanni4235 Год назад

      @@rosealynn learning history i found that most people were colonisers to someone and the people usually fighting for their freedome are often elites that want to return to their ruling privileges. More often than not that fight for freedome ends in a worse situation than the one before ( see the soviet union & co). Even the Nazis, who were the closest we have to a truly evil regime, saw themselves as a victim and their fight to be righteous and to a degree they were right. The treaty of versailes, the occupation of the rhineland and parts of eastern germany, the marginalisation of germans in said regions and the threat that the soviet union posed to europe were all very real.

    • @Canadian_Zac
      @Canadian_Zac Год назад +29

      ​@Rosealynn even then, it can depend.
      Like rebel groups in France during WW2. Officially, they were fighting to free France from German occupation.
      But, after a bit, the allies stopped giving them weapons, because they weren't using them to fight, they were hoarding them to fight the other rebel groups for control once the Germans were kicked out.

    • @Canadian_Zac
      @Canadian_Zac Год назад +2

      ​@Rosealynn even then, it can depend.
      Like rebel groups in France during WW2. Officially, they were fighting to free France from German occupation.
      But, after a bit, the allies stopped giving them weapons, because they weren't using them to fight, they were hoarding them to fight the other rebel groups for control once the Germans were kicked out.

    • @Thrush-flight
      @Thrush-flight Год назад +2

      @@Canadian_Zacwhy did you put that twice?

    • @Canadian_Zac
      @Canadian_Zac Год назад +5

      @@Thrush-flight probably Internet nbeing weird when I sent it, lol

  • @Sakaki98
    @Sakaki98 4 года назад +281

    “I’m not the only one applying real-world diagnostics to works of fiction.” Been sitting on that one for a while, eh, MatPat? Tell us how you really feel.

    • @craiven3527
      @craiven3527 4 года назад +2

      Like a proud fascist as everyone should

    • @slemmels6362
      @slemmels6362 4 года назад +6

      @@craiven3527 your joking right?

    • @RhineStone46
      @RhineStone46 4 года назад

      What does fascism have to do with it?

    • @noelblack8159
      @noelblack8159 4 года назад

      But that’s just a Theory
      A History Movie Theory
      Aaand Cut

  • @Shadowreaper5
    @Shadowreaper5 4 года назад +213

    Id like to point out that Luke used his "you'll get angry and use your magic" trick not to convince them to join the war, but to stop the Ewoks from killing them all. The Ewoks joined after C3PO did his dramatic reenactment of the events so far.

    • @Mike_Dubo
      @Mike_Dubo 4 года назад +32

      Was thinking the same myself. This video feels too much like Matt was wanting to make a contrarian video just to get the views.

    • @RayShadow278
      @RayShadow278 4 года назад +8

      @@Mike_Dubo Because it is

    • @Enixon869
      @Enixon869 4 года назад +7

      @@cryfly1 my favorite is always the "Mario is a Sociopath" Game Theory where he uses a passage from the American instructions manual saying how Bowser turned the people of the Mushroom Kingdom into blocks to say Mario's a mass murderer for smashing all the blocks you do in the game, thing is the very next paragraph in the manual not only says that breaking the blocks frees them but that the powerups you get are "gifts from the grateful mushroom people"

    • @karolisg4385
      @karolisg4385 4 года назад +1

      @@cryfly1 dude stfu atliest he has a unlike you . Plus hes human hes made so many theiries he has to go trought so many things like movies comics , games. Hes allowed to make mistakes

    • @CrackedPropane
      @CrackedPropane 4 года назад +1

      @@cryfly1 Well disney being evil isn’t necessarily an unpopular opinion

  • @IN_ari
    @IN_ari 4 года назад +3516

    Film theorys new theory: order 66 was secretly a good thing

    • @BrotherTheory
      @BrotherTheory 4 года назад +140

      That would be mind blowing, awesome and weird at the same time.

    • @baronvondarkltd5183
      @baronvondarkltd5183 4 года назад +99

      Wouldn’t be surprised if he did one at this point lmao

    • @Blue-mr7fe
      @Blue-mr7fe 4 года назад +109

      It brought balance to the force

    • @ColdDoomOfficial
      @ColdDoomOfficial 4 года назад +141

      It got rid of the non-secular branch of government controlling the rest of the government for its own religious beliefs, it absolutely was a good thing
      Edit: meant non-secular, accidentally said secular

    • @Josiahdacoolest
      @Josiahdacoolest 4 года назад +20

      True it did bring balance

  • @theepicgoosedude
    @theepicgoosedude 2 года назад +10

    Matpat: Yo dudes the empire is pretty chill maybe you should join it or something

  • @TitanEaterOfCrayons
    @TitanEaterOfCrayons 3 года назад +218

    Jedi Requirements
    Don't give into the darkness:
    Okay that's fair
    A clear mind:
    A little tough for me but okay
    No family:
    Hold up

  • @davidlastname1599
    @davidlastname1599 4 года назад +422

    "Alderaan wasn't real tarkinism" the bad guys would never lie.

    • @RoXas4878
      @RoXas4878 4 года назад +3

      ruclips.net/video/CeCKWLyhUBg/видео.html mandalorian deleted scene from ep 3

    • @davidlastname1599
      @davidlastname1599 4 года назад +1

      @@RoXas4878 wow that really changed my mind thank you RoXas4878

    • @dislikethismusicvideoleave2238
      @dislikethismusicvideoleave2238 4 года назад +1

      This is the worse video ever 🏳️‍🌈🙏🏽 ruclips.net/video/I--rRfdoWEI/видео.html vefvfe

    • @davidlastname1599
      @davidlastname1599 4 года назад +6

      @@dislikethismusicvideoleave2238 this some trick to get your video more ad cents?

    • @unlondonbobby3336
      @unlondonbobby3336 4 года назад +2

      Alderaan is Aldergone
      Because it was alderwrong
      So now it’s alderdone

  • @superfire6463
    @superfire6463 4 года назад +439

    “It was pretty good for the farmers”
    Luke’s aunt and uncle:

    • @portobellomushroom5764
      @portobellomushroom5764 4 года назад +27

      @Deadpoppin well, until they were burned to a crisp

    • @an8strengthkobold360
      @an8strengthkobold360 4 года назад +12

      They were good for *human* farmers. They were real bad for non humans.

    • @redeye4516
      @redeye4516 4 года назад

      *there's a theory
      Auto correct

    • @benshorr7980
      @benshorr7980 4 года назад +7

      @@portobellomushroom5764 that was by boba Fett so technically not the empire

    • @sharilshahed6106
      @sharilshahed6106 4 года назад +9

      @@benshorr7980 that was by the Empire.

  • @slynthrax5067
    @slynthrax5067 2 года назад +72

    I think a vital thing he forgot to mention with the Jedi that if you didnt get picked as someones padawan they forced you into child labor camps to produce food for the Jedi temple Obi-Wan was forced into one of those camps for a little while till Qui-Gon decided to train him so even the Jedi you know the good guys enforced slave labor/child labor instead of just sending the kids back to the families they stole them from which reminds me of my favorite quote involving the Jedi and Sith which I cant remember where its from "The Sith are just as bad as the Jedi they are just honest about it"

    • @midgetydeath
      @midgetydeath Год назад +11

      The food was for charity, not the Temple, but otherwise basically yes.

    • @Gaster_021
      @Gaster_021 5 месяцев назад +1

      The Jedi never did condone or stop slavery because they actively practiced it

    • @WallNutBreaker524
      @WallNutBreaker524 4 месяца назад +1

      Who do you trust more? Wolves with bared fangs? Or Wolves in sheep's clothing?

    • @thescarletdemon89
      @thescarletdemon89 Месяц назад

      ​@@WallNutBreaker524 Neither

  • @TheInspirationalMind
    @TheInspirationalMind 4 года назад +2168

    5:28 You guys put First Order Stormtroopers in the background instead of Imperial Stormtroopers.
    Just a mistake or... something more? 🤔

    • @Brandon-dy8us
      @Brandon-dy8us 4 года назад +277

      Oh God conspiracy theories on a channel about conspiracy theories... conspiracyception

    • @TheInspirationalMind
      @TheInspirationalMind 4 года назад +44

      @@Brandon-dy8us LOL 😂

    • @Ruby-Doc
      @Ruby-Doc 4 года назад +13

      *_[hmm]_*

    • @M0no
      @M0no 4 года назад +31

      He must not be a true Star Wars fan(I can’t believe I have to say this, but this is a joke)

    • @Dilly958
      @Dilly958 4 года назад +6

      Hello there (;

  • @donewitheverything2292
    @donewitheverything2292 3 года назад +166

    (Republic) Anakin: was a slave with his mother, and is regularly being put in danger for the sake of gambling. His planet is run by crime syndicates. The republics dollar is so weak you couldn’t even use it to buy basic things. Has no real option off the planet or for a better life, except for the fact he is a Jedi.
    (New Republic) Rey: spends her entire life saving up enough money to buy a single ticket off Jakku. Lives in a tent and eats bread almost exclusively. Has no public services, must know how to defend herself at all times, and must carry a weapon at all times. No real option off her planet, except that she is stumbled upon by a resistance fighter.
    (Empire) Luke: Works on a farm with his family most of the time. Works part time in the city and is able to afford a speeder and, should he reach into his savings, a ticket off his planet whenever he needs. Organized crime is present on the planet, but isn’t nearly as omnipresent like with Anakin. Slavery is non existent in the average Tatooinian small business. (A solid improvement over Anakin) He has multiple options to get off the planet, such as saving up for a ticket and getting a job off planet, joining the Stormtrooper corps, joining or the Imperial Navy.

    • @shadoww6230
      @shadoww6230 3 года назад +13

      I don't want to be that person but its Rey instead of Ray

    • @heinzrich
      @heinzrich 3 года назад +31

      I'm surprised he didn't mention that, those are really good valid points.

    • @nch2004
      @nch2004 3 года назад +5

      Did the New Republic even own Jakku? They straight up let Kylo Ren's star destroyer hover over it and deploy troops lol.

    • @donewitheverything2292
      @donewitheverything2292 3 года назад +9

      @@nch2004 they ran the whole galaxy except for the unknown regions, where the first order was hiding out. They had a very off hands approach to running things. Basically each planet is on their own and can police themselves however they see fit, so long as they aren’t policing too hard, where the feds step in and shut it down. If you get a poorer planet (like 90% of planets outside the core worlds) they have too little resources to do anything or really have a government at all. The galactic navy was basically non-existent. The federal government was basically non-existent outside the core worlds. And even then, barely. My support for the empire is mostly a joke, but the new republic is actually the worst. Also the republic is basically imperialist.

    • @ЖамеркусДжиДжи
      @ЖамеркусДжиДжи 3 года назад +6

      Luke was actually brought there by Obi Wan, and yes, there was crime on Tatooine too, Jabba the Hutt ruled it. So they are not doing so well with their task, all that the Empire did was to replace one evil with another. Workers and engineers in the game of the last Jedi noted that during the Republic they were doing much better, keep in mind that the Empire / Republic had tens of millions of planets. The empire simply drove away the small bandits, and legalized slavery, began to cooperate with a major criminal sinicat. The empire is good only in management, but not in ensuring the lives of people and security. I'm not saying that they used the xenos as slaves.
      In general, democracy in the Far Galaxy is rather primitive

  • @MrJ567
    @MrJ567 3 года назад +1810

    "The Empire may be autocratic and heavy-handed in enforcing the law, but they keep the transports running."
    -Some dude in the Empire.

  • @Raven333W
    @Raven333W Год назад +23

    I watched the prequel for the first time a couple days ago and I couldn’t stop thinking about how anakin and emperor Palpatine we’re a textbook pairing of NPD (narcissistic personality disorder, Palpatine) and BPD. It’s cool to hear that someone officially came out and gave a anakin the bpd diagnosis because I was like this is a near textbook example of how narcissistic grooming and bpd often coincide. I wonder if the author did it on purpose or accident. Had Palpatine not groomed anakin since the day he met him, he would have turned out a lot different. As well as if the Jedi hadn’t constantly trivialized anakins emotions and experiences, they really Villianized him for existing which put him in a position that allowed the empower to swoop in. It was so hard to watch because bpd is such a stigmatized and misunderstood disorder, it’s hard to look at someone like anakin and recognize that he was really a victim since childhood as well as a villain.

  • @lulua6203
    @lulua6203 4 года назад +220

    This reminds me actually of the German government - starting out with the Kaiser's autocracy (the Empire), then the Weimar Republic (the Republic) followed by the Nazis (the First Order).

    • @samuelbastable2002
      @samuelbastable2002 4 года назад +7

      YES! then whatever comes after the first order would more than likely be cold war germany

    • @Sinaeb
      @Sinaeb 4 года назад +12

      I mean, that's kinda what it was based on

    • @BrotherTheory
      @BrotherTheory 4 года назад +1

      Clever :)

    • @cillianmclaverty9392
      @cillianmclaverty9392 4 года назад +2

      I mean stormtroopers

    • @lulua6203
      @lulua6203 4 года назад +7

      @@Sinaeb Yes, Stormtroopers inheriting their name from the real life Stormtroopers (SA) is just one of the direct comparisons that exist within the Star Wars universe and 20th Century Germany

  • @lakewoodbball
    @lakewoodbball 4 года назад +2499

    “Sure, him and his mother live in slavery but they’re getting along just fine” -MatPat 2020

    • @MacDaddyBlack546
      @MacDaddyBlack546 4 года назад +158

      what a tone deaf thing for em to say

    • @jabanyoclaus391
      @jabanyoclaus391 4 года назад +26

      LOL

    • @chunkyMunky329
      @chunkyMunky329 4 года назад +361

      Having a non-violent slave master is better than living in an area where a war lord might murder you and your family at any moment

    • @stevenstevenson5501
      @stevenstevenson5501 4 года назад +124

      MatPat: But what if space Nazis we’re ACTUALLY the good guys?!?!

    • @rosemali3022
      @rosemali3022 4 года назад +54

      I hope you don't defend prison slavery then. Which is baked into the constitution and why the prison industrial complex exists.

  • @thenexgamer5608
    @thenexgamer5608 4 года назад +330

    Matpat: the mainstream movies never talk about how the empire rules
    Tarkin in episode 4: the senate (democracy) has been disbanded, fear will keep them in line, and to make them even more scared to disobey us let’s destroy a planet

    • @haicoai6269
      @haicoai6269 4 года назад +1

      Goh
      yesruclips.net/video/zFJ2AN_CZH8/видео.html

    • @reubenm.d.5218
      @reubenm.d.5218 4 года назад +7

      Sourcing Tarkin Doctrine from outside canon is also faulty logic - canon Tarkin is committed to the Death Star (a centralised project) rather than the dispersed use of resources that Krennic advocates for with his TIE defenders

    • @sebastianjoseph9628
      @sebastianjoseph9628 4 года назад +1

      I saw this video called “Th Empire Was Right” and the guy showed the clip telling us that the senate was disbanded and power would be given to the local governor’s and that Alderaan was a suspected rebel planet and only had a population of about 2 million, which Obi Wan Kenobi confirmed.

    • @JoeBjork
      @JoeBjork 4 года назад

      @@reubenm.d.5218 close, but not quite... Krennic also wanted ONLY the Death Star, no other projects. Tarkin wanted to steal the Death Star project credit/command from him (which he proceeds to do in Rouge One) and so, on the surface at least, supports other projects. Thrawn was the one who thought that the Death Star was a stupid idea and was pushing for the TIE Defenders

    • @reubenm.d.5218
      @reubenm.d.5218 4 года назад

      @@JoeBjork Thanks for the clarification. You are, of course, correct

  • @mikethegamer8492
    @mikethegamer8492 2 года назад +24

    I think the reasoning behind the sequels failiure with the empire is bc they acted like the main characters were still rebels when they weren’t

  • @roustache
    @roustache 4 года назад +58

    I've just finish the game "Star Wars Jedi : Fallen Order", in it they says that all the resources are taken to the core world and the outer worlds are mine without restreint. they even "relocate" indigenous species if they are in the way ...

    • @mrpotatoalsomooman7289
      @mrpotatoalsomooman7289 4 года назад

      On the bright side their relocating and not murdering them unless....... that was sarcasm

    • @BrotherTheory
      @BrotherTheory 4 года назад +1

      btw, I love Jedi Fallen Order :) Did you know there's gonna be a sequel?

  • @marthatsme
    @marthatsme 4 года назад +5402

    I don’t know man..... sounds like Dark Side propaganda

  • @arthurgrayson3968
    @arthurgrayson3968 4 года назад +798

    MatPat: The empire was not bad.
    RUclips comments: Begun The Comment Wars have.

    • @dislikethismusicvideoleave2238
      @dislikethismusicvideoleave2238 4 года назад +5

      This is the worse video ever 🏳️‍🌈🙏🏽 ruclips.net/video/I--rRfdoWEI/видео.html eff

    • @TheLastNewYorker
      @TheLastNewYorker 4 года назад +12

      So this is how Democratic conversation ends, with thunderous outrage.

    • @arealisticbeautystandard8920
      @arealisticbeautystandard8920 4 года назад +3

      I'm kinda scared to press the link i don't want to get rick rolled

    • @jayvhoncalma3458
      @jayvhoncalma3458 4 года назад +4

      Matpat should have started and stuck with food theory because he doesn't sound like a madman in a tinfoil hat in food theory

    • @jaynguyen1573
      @jaynguyen1573 4 года назад +8

      @@jayvhoncalma3458 so pointing out that an organization that wanted order may have been right on some things and the group that wants to overthrow the system may have caused a mess is considered tin foil hat stuff? Would it have pleased you if he said that everyone should get free stuff and not have to work?

  • @frankjennings4489
    @frankjennings4489 Год назад +35

    In the Obi Wan series, you also see this regular salt-of-the-earth driver talk about how the people around there are good empire-loving folk, meaning he saw the empire as a good stabilizing force, not an oppressive threat.

  • @bierrollerful
    @bierrollerful 4 года назад +526

    "Fear will keep the local systems in line."
    - your friendly, freedom loving commander of the -death- 'love & friendship' star

    • @morningstar3997
      @morningstar3997 4 года назад +15

      Well it did so he isn't wrong there.

    • @chris999999999999
      @chris999999999999 4 года назад +3

      So you're saying they should have called it the Health Star?

    • @FatheredPuma81
      @FatheredPuma81 4 года назад

      ​@Robert Allan It blowing up wasn't apart of the plan though.

    • @Animalace3
      @Animalace3 4 года назад +2

      Don't quote me on this, but IIRC that line that Tarkin stated that you quoted was after Tarkin had lost his son and become far more cruel in keeping order than he was before the death of his son.

    • @Animalace3
      @Animalace3 4 года назад +1

      @Robert Allan Hmm, I guess I'll have to explain more. Before the death of his son, he was actually well liked and didn't really beat down civilians through fear. I said what I did to state that Tarkin went off the deep end after his son died. Does it justify anything? Of fucking course not. It's rather hard to justify suppressing the people through sheer power without very good reasons (which is nigh impossible). Just stating the cause for why he did what he did.

  • @LilMissMorpho
    @LilMissMorpho 4 года назад +808

    MatPat next week: The Illuminati is a necessary evil.

    • @LilMissMorpho
      @LilMissMorpho 4 года назад +1

      @Don Shrek You know it.

    • @pestylucas7406
      @pestylucas7406 4 года назад +10

      I mean, what did the Illuminati ever do to you

    • @CartaplexUS
      @CartaplexUS 4 года назад

      Hey guys pack that is a A dictator sympathizer

    • @LilMissMorpho
      @LilMissMorpho 4 года назад +3

      @@pestylucas7406 how about putting their symbols in movies and games of all kinds? you could legit pull together a mega theory of the movies that are connected by that symbolism. For a secret society, their symbolism has gotten so popular movies now add it in on purpose as a cheap trick to rake in viewers.

    • @RobocopStealerOfFridges
      @RobocopStealerOfFridges 4 года назад

      @Ba Doai no.

  • @Timjer92
    @Timjer92 4 года назад +431

    Well, there was a reason why the Empire was so popular in its early days; it really *did* follow up on its promises to root out the corruption and incompetence of the old Republic. And, quite frankly, I myself do genuinly believe the Empire could have had the potential to be a great force for good... IF only its sole autocrat wasn't evil incarnate and hadn't designed the Empire to be unable to function without him and his tyranny.
    Not to mention the New Republic was sooooo utterly incompetent the sequels happened. They were literally to complacent and indecisive to stop the blatant rise of the more evil First Order.

    • @highadmiraljt5853
      @highadmiraljt5853 4 года назад +9

      Basically, thrawn would’ve been a better emperor

    • @Fisinocean
      @Fisinocean 4 года назад +5

      An actually non heated debate about the empirw and the republics?? Now this is something i can dig in!

    • @spartanman1084
      @spartanman1084 4 года назад +4

      Sequels? There’s no such thing as sequels!
      I SAID THERES NO SEQUELS!

    • @lookatthepicture4107
      @lookatthepicture4107 4 года назад

      I'm proud of this comment section and everyone above this comment

    • @kiirothedriver8714
      @kiirothedriver8714 4 года назад

      Interesting plot point if they release a sequel to Squadrons.... An Imperial pilot and senator trying to renew the militaristic tenets of the Empire...

  • @notjeih
    @notjeih 2 года назад +6

    Big brain Vader don't exits, he can't rule you or bring order to galaxy.
    Big brain Vader that can rule you and bring order to the galaxy:

  • @jamesnewton485
    @jamesnewton485 4 года назад +254

    When I started reading the Legends books I like the Sith better than Jedi.

    • @bobboringname9021
      @bobboringname9021 4 года назад +18

      same all though they had a far higher failure rate a true sith DOES NOT FALL TO THE DARK SIDE

    • @davidjames7935
      @davidjames7935 4 года назад +7

      The Sith is always is the better side

    • @timleontim
      @timleontim 4 года назад +1

      Yes

    • @shuckid8290
      @shuckid8290 4 года назад +8

      I hate how he ignores the slavery of the wookies in this video, the slavery under the republic or new republic was not *FOR THE REPUBLIC* it was more or less out of their control

    • @dislikethismusicvideoleave2238
      @dislikethismusicvideoleave2238 4 года назад

      This is the worse video ever 🏳️‍🌈🙏🏽 ruclips.net/video/I--rRfdoWEI/видео.html vefefv

  • @curiouslamp2841
    @curiouslamp2841 4 года назад +678

    Matpat: Let's not take the Empire's promises at face value.
    Also Matpat: *Takes the Empire's promises at face value*

    • @SalumarLP
      @SalumarLP 4 года назад +63

      Tarkin: I have never done anything wrong in my entire life.
      Matpat: I know this, and I love you.

    • @taxevasiongaming
      @taxevasiongaming 4 года назад +2

      @@SalumarLP accurate 😂

    • @dislikethismusicvideoleave2238
      @dislikethismusicvideoleave2238 4 года назад

      This is the worse video ever 🏳️‍🌈🙏🏽 ruclips.net/video/I--rRfdoWEI/видео.html vgrg

    • @AAZ-yu5ss
      @AAZ-yu5ss 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@SalumarLP *TRUE!*

  • @ethribin4188
    @ethribin4188 3 года назад +410

    The point always was that the Jedi order, while well intentioned, was heavily flawed and made grave errors of judgement.
    Especially while trying to prevent others from making those same errors.

    • @Cringinator4000
      @Cringinator4000 2 года назад +19

      It’s just because “THE JEDI ARE EVIL” is a better clickbait title than “The Jedi are flawed”

    • @quinnholloway5400
      @quinnholloway5400 2 года назад +11

      They used to be better before they ended up melded into the Republic
      And had to act as their Generals

    • @kalfust7722
      @kalfust7722 2 года назад +9

      No not really in the old republic if you haven't read Lore about the sith genocide the jedi commited genocide on the sith species all because "they have dark side in them" sure they started a war but a real morally good person wouldn't try to genocide an entire species just because "they caused a war"

    • @kalfust7722
      @kalfust7722 2 года назад +1

      @@quinnholloway5400 read my previous statement

    • @Vnfy
      @Vnfy 2 года назад

      Just like now in germany.
      Fanatic in don t forget what is going on in there 30th and 40th but now try to make a new war with the entire eastern world....

  • @majestic_defalt
    @majestic_defalt 2 года назад +54

    I took transformers and explained a similar take to this with the autobots and decpeticons, I really like flipping the script sometimes and showing just how evil the good side really is to show there’s more than meets the eye to a side

    • @russelladkins8854
      @russelladkins8854 2 года назад +15

      You don't even have to flip the narrative, look at the old IDW continuity. Many Cybertronians were constructed cold into a predetermined class system guaranteeing them zero rights and no hope. In that continuity Megatron starts the Decpeticons as a philosophical opposition movements towards the predetermined functionalist perspective.

    • @constantinb4592
      @constantinb4592 2 года назад +4

      @@russelladkins8854
      Doesn't help than a certain scientist who time travelled by accident ensured history repeated itself in such a way

  • @lukecrittell
    @lukecrittell 4 года назад +546

    Matpat: The ewoks and the empire coexisted in peace!
    *battlefront 2 ewok hunt flashbacks*

    • @alexvazquez2871
      @alexvazquez2871 3 года назад +24

      Underrated comment. Only true BF2 fans will understand.

    • @MQzzz.3140
      @MQzzz.3140 3 года назад +2

      The old PSP ones?

    • @leviticusart123
      @leviticusart123 3 года назад +6

      Holly crap that's exactly what I thought of.

    • @randomguythatexists2244
      @randomguythatexists2244 3 года назад +16

      I guess Matpat is referring to their relationship before the battle of Endor. I think Ewok hunt is after the battle.

    • @midgetydeath
      @midgetydeath 3 года назад +9

      That was just because the Ewoks attacked thanks to Luke.

  • @potatoqueen5248
    @potatoqueen5248 4 года назад +388

    This whole theory is basically “Ah yes, young man, winning was easy, governing is much harder.”

  • @dafnesaenz1617
    @dafnesaenz1617 2 года назад +384

    Also Anakin always wanted to overthrow Palpatine because he had a vision of how it had to be done, he thought his new empire would bring peace and justice to everyone. He literally tells that to Padme in episode 2 and 3 but she says no you can't just force people to obey people need to decide, a democracy. In the end he did bring balance to the force thoooo

    • @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel
      @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel 2 года назад +10

      A balance that only had to be reestablished because of him.
      (Well not JUST him, but he played a big role in screwing things over)

    • @tabkg5802
      @tabkg5802 2 года назад +17

      @@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel and all of this happened because Jedi Order was made up of a bunch of hypocrites

    • @Owudukan
      @Owudukan 2 года назад +1

      @@tabkg5802 just the new jedi the old jedi even had a diffret jedi code

    • @theangryotaku3361
      @theangryotaku3361 2 года назад +3

      @@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel technically he did bring balance. there were just 2 sith and 2 jedi left after his "adventure". perfectly balanced, as all things should be

    • @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel
      @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel 2 года назад +2

      @@theangryotaku3361
      That presumes that the only thing that matters in the galaxy is how many Sith or Jedi there are in it. I would say that a galaxy which is constantly plagued with civil wars and exploding planets is not balanced in the force.

  • @Towdi_
    @Towdi_ Год назад +9

    One of your leading sources for why the empire isn't all that bad is Grand Moff Tarkin, on of the most powerful members of the empire

    • @InitialPC
      @InitialPC 10 месяцев назад +6

      and the leading sources for why the empire is bad come from rebels, whats your point?

  • @followthewhiterabbit1089
    @followthewhiterabbit1089 3 года назад +885

    When i was a kid in the 90s , i didnt understand English, and i thought the Empire was the good guys.

  • @MapleLamia
    @MapleLamia 4 года назад +111

    Truthfully the only *good* faction was the CIS (if separated from the Droid Army and the various companies semi-allied with them, as the CIS didn't really have any control over them)

    • @CountDookuful
      @CountDookuful 4 года назад +10

      let's just forget the chemical warfare and slavery stuff

    • @baronvondarkltd5183
      @baronvondarkltd5183 4 года назад +3

      he said if separated from the droid army but ok, also with corporation leaders it would bring plenty of jobs and economic prosperity

    • @trantigone
      @trantigone 4 года назад +7

      The CIS had no control over anything. The CIS was similar to the old shogun system, where while the CIS has rulers, the only real leaders who get anything accomplished are in the military.

    • @doomforzombies
      @doomforzombies 4 года назад

      Um the alliance satine kryze formed

    • @unknowguy9642
      @unknowguy9642 4 года назад +2

      The republic: how dare you break away from the republic, the might of the republic shall crash on you!!
      The CIS: I was a business man, doing business

  • @mikocreer9556
    @mikocreer9556 4 года назад +1645

    “You’re sounding like a seperatist”

    • @docrofreborn7497
      @docrofreborn7497 4 года назад +5

      @@dislikethismusicvideoleave3421 I mean, it is. But why not comment something more meaningful?

    • @spider-capgaming1487
      @spider-capgaming1487 4 года назад +48

      It's Treason then

    • @derpmaster2713
      @derpmaster2713 4 года назад +60

      If you discount their military actions, the Speratists were better than the Republic.

    • @Nothing2CHere4U
      @Nothing2CHere4U 4 года назад

      Plot twist: all yootoobers are cyclons

    • @redhood7650
      @redhood7650 4 года назад +3

      @@docrofreborn7497 it's a bot spam

  • @GrahamWarzywo
    @GrahamWarzywo Год назад +3

    Youre actually wrong at one thing - "Tarkin" novel is canon, Tarkins invisible ship appears later in comics where it serves First Order (and is destroyed sadly)

  • @mrbaldy1665
    @mrbaldy1665 4 года назад +92

    One major thing Matt Pat didnt touch on was Luke's call to adventure was the empire vaporizing his aunt and uncle

    • @Charlie94781
      @Charlie94781 4 года назад +10

      Ben Kenobi would have definitely been extreme enough to murder Owen and Beru in order to deceive Luke into becoming his agent by destroying his family and the Jawas. the Lars Homestead looks as though it was demolished by anarchists most likely Jabba’s thugs who got mind tricked into believing the farmers never paid their water tribute

    • @aidanithink4596
      @aidanithink4596 4 года назад +6

      @@Charlie94781 That is just baseless speculation though

    • @EGRJ
      @EGRJ 4 года назад

      @@aidanithink4596 So you're saying it's just a theory?

    • @dynawesome
      @dynawesome 4 года назад +1

      They had evidence that the droids could be there
      The Empire is extremely cruel and oppressive, but most often only to those suspected of rebellion

    • @aidanithink4596
      @aidanithink4596 4 года назад

      @@EGRJ A game theory

  • @yoshifan33
    @yoshifan33 3 года назад +794

    "Only a Sith theorizes in absolutes. I will do what I must." _draws lightsaber_

    • @silverblade357
      @silverblade357 3 года назад +36

      Gotta wonder how it feels to be part of a thousands strong group that keeps getting curbstomped across the millennia by only two dudes.

    • @elegantmonkey6111
      @elegantmonkey6111 3 года назад +15

      "You will try"

    • @dontmisunderstand6041
      @dontmisunderstand6041 3 года назад +58

      "Only a Sith deals in absolutes"
      -A Jedi dealing in absolutes

    • @craftysmithkeith3653
      @craftysmithkeith3653 3 года назад +20

      @@dontmisunderstand6041 only now have i realized that that statement was an absolute

    • @krel7160
      @krel7160 3 года назад +13

      @@craftysmithkeith3653 Have you heard of the tragedy of Darth Kenobi the feeble? He could save himself from death, but not those around him.. not even his most favored apprentice.

  • @prakashrawat8734
    @prakashrawat8734 4 года назад +1708

    A Young Child being whisked away from his parents to a place where a values are forcefully pressed upon and emotional needs are suppressed.
    Me: Sounds like school to me

    • @Seasonal-Shadow_4674
      @Seasonal-Shadow_4674 4 года назад +74

      School = The empire in disguise

    • @SiddharthShenoy
      @SiddharthShenoy 3 года назад +32

      Holy shi-

    • @albertjackinson
      @albertjackinson 3 года назад +37

      Another reason why we need to fix the education system!

    • @Seasonal-Shadow_4674
      @Seasonal-Shadow_4674 3 года назад +21

      @@albertjackinson how? Won’t ever happen until another half century

    • @albertjackinson
      @albertjackinson 3 года назад +18

      @@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 A lot of work will need to be done; that's for sure. I'll think on how implementing them can be done. There are a lot of ideas on how to improve the system, but implementing them will be a challenge.

  • @UnknownOps
    @UnknownOps 2 года назад +14

    Reminds me of Somalia, after fighting off the government, all the factions began opposing and killing each others for control, the rebellion is no different from this.

  • @jack_5670
    @jack_5670 4 года назад +107

    6:07 The book Tarkin is not Legends, it is official Canon

    • @jack_5670
      @jack_5670 4 года назад

      @@dislikethismusicvideoleave3421 lol ok bot

    • @jack_5670
      @jack_5670 4 года назад +4

      wait lemme guess. That's you in the video and you're just doing this for free publicity! Very clever...

    • @docrofreborn7497
      @docrofreborn7497 4 года назад +2

      @@jack_5670 ding ding ding ding ding! You’ve got it right, mate.

    • @theopminer952
      @theopminer952 4 года назад +6

      I think he should start leaving the StarWars theories to the Lore channels, he is leaving out so much info, and messing some of it up.

    • @BrotherTheory
      @BrotherTheory 4 года назад

      I know that from Star Wars Comics, he told me that (NO PROMOTING)

  • @tiffanypersaud3518
    @tiffanypersaud3518 3 года назад +154

    Power vacuums and their effects are real. Transitions between one government to another is often neglected. I think the New Republic was spread very thin as well, and much of it was still very influenced by the Empire.

    • @cr90captain89
      @cr90captain89 3 года назад +9

      so the galaxy still vowed (and held) allegiance to the empire behind the scenes,
      planets that still supported the empire, used their collective influence in the senate to undermine the new republic from within.
      all the while sending funds and resources to the first order and other imperial remnants.
      that might explain why the NR just sucks at basic governance.

    • @tiffanypersaud3518
      @tiffanypersaud3518 3 года назад +2

      @@cr90captain89 I see that make sense. For people with split allegiance as well.

    • @FasterthanLight11
      @FasterthanLight11 2 года назад +1

      The Empire didnt have such a rough transition from the Republic.

    • @eatonkuntz
      @eatonkuntz 2 года назад

      Freedom has a price, which is chaos. Sometimes it's better to not be free so suddenly.

    • @eatonkuntz
      @eatonkuntz 2 года назад +1

      @@FasterthanLight11 because the transition was legitimate, Palpatine was voted into power and reformed the existing government, swiftly crushing the separatists and jedi to maintain order _before_ things devolved into chaos.

  • @CountDookuful
    @CountDookuful 4 года назад +127

    Matt Patt: "The outer systems got to keep their resources"
    Palpatine: *Builds multiple death stars with slave labor and pillaged resources*

    • @Cheesusful
      @Cheesusful 4 года назад +6

      Didn't someone once do a video about the resources that went into building a death Star? I'm sure they mentioned that basic taxation for infrastructure couldn't have built it without some planets getting severely fucked over. ..

    • @sebastianjoseph9628
      @sebastianjoseph9628 4 года назад +2

      They said that it was private contractors. Because I’m sure building something like that would pay you well and with an entire galaxy’s worth of people and wealth. It doesn’t seem that hard

    • @darth_sidious_sheev_palpatine
      @darth_sidious_sheev_palpatine 4 года назад +8

      "Death star" is a derogatory slang from the Rebel propaganda. It's officially called a piece globe, And it shoots pure safety and security For the Galaxy

    • @victory1stardestroyer431
      @victory1stardestroyer431 4 года назад +4

      Matpat: also quotes EGTW, which quite literally goes over how the Empire fucks over the rim
      Matpat: Also quotes lost stars which does the same
      Matpat: quotes Tarkin which does the same as well

    • @mondaysinsanity8193
      @mondaysinsanity8193 4 года назад +3

      @@sebastianjoseph9628 deathstar wasnt built with contractors lmao. Wookie slaves were definitely used and certainly others.
      The empire using slaves is a major part

  • @SovTheCherub
    @SovTheCherub Год назад +5

    Also there’s the possibility of the old Republic having the idea for the death star and wanting to create it. In the prequels we see chancellor palpatine hastily close blueprints of something that resembles the death star as anakin walks in.

    • @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel
      @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel Год назад +1

      I take it you missed the part then, where the Geonosians gave Dooku the plans for the Death Star in the movie before that? Yeah, Palpatine definitely ordered those plans to be made for him. They weren't some secret Republic superweapon.

    • @SovTheCherub
      @SovTheCherub Год назад

      @@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel ohhhh
      Forgot about that, I haven’t watched the movies in a few years

  • @Quasimodo-mq8tw
    @Quasimodo-mq8tw 4 года назад +5431

    The Empire improves every land it touches: Every British colonial officer ever....

    • @nitrokat7597
      @nitrokat7597 4 года назад +126

      True

    • @amelist8123
      @amelist8123 4 года назад +614

      well it kind of did in a way. It brought modern medicine, education and infrastructure and philosophy. A lot of the stories of Aztecs being murderous war culture that eat people, which for many years people did not believe. Now archeologist and historians have proven a lot of the tall tails to be true. Like a giant wall build only out of human skulls that the Spaniards tore down. They found reminds of it under the grounds because it wasn't just extremely tall but went deep into the earth. The Spaniards could not have defeated the Aztec with out the help of the people they oppressed and ruled over as second class citizens and lambs for sacrifice. But of course this makes people who have the mind of a child angry because they think the world actually works like a star wars movie or a harry potter film, so this means one is saying that empire rule is correct. When nothing in life is so simple as a child's story.

    • @WickedKnightAlbel
      @WickedKnightAlbel 4 года назад +338

      @@amelist8123 Right, right, and that _totally_ justifies the Conquistadors slaughtering every last one of them for gold
      Get over yourself

    • @Ragehaven
      @Ragehaven 4 года назад +26

      Heroes one and all

    • @lordchickenhawk
      @lordchickenhawk 4 года назад +288

      @@WickedKnightAlbel Ummm... No. I don't think Ame was justifying it. I got the impression that he/she was asking "Which evil do you find least egregious?" slash "Are you a victim of your own child-like idealism?"
      P.S. Sorry for all the edits... I just realised that I have no idea whether Ame is a bloke/sheila/personal pronoun.

  • @larrypowers2515
    @larrypowers2515 2 года назад +148

    "You see, boys. Everybody thinks they want freedom, but what they really want is order. When they realize that, they're gonna welcome us back with open arms. To the Empire!" - Valin Hess, the Mandalorian

  • @FxTR22
    @FxTR22 2 года назад +573

    You forgot to mention that the system only worked as long Palpatine was in power. When he died, the whole empire crumbled. This system only worked as long the guy in charge did more or less the right thing towards prosperity and did not surprisingly die somewhere on a fake moon.

    • @NarwahlGaming
      @NarwahlGaming 2 года назад +51

      **Palpatine's body flops down from a tube**
      Janitor: _"What are those guys doing up there?"_

    • @swiftlyaswiftie
      @swiftlyaswiftie 2 года назад +30

      I think the power would be passed down to darth vader and then he'll pick someone out (possibly even train them into that mindset)

    • @HolyknightVader999
      @HolyknightVader999 2 года назад +34

      Same thing went for the New Republic. The moment Mon Mothma stepped down, it was on its way to its death. In both Legends and Disney canon, the New Republic was a failed experiment.

    • @bryanperdomo1283
      @bryanperdomo1283 2 года назад +11

      Yeah but Vader could have ruled the galaxy just fine if he wasn't abruptly interrupted by his son.

    • @lasercraft32
      @lasercraft32 Год назад +12

      True... but Palpatine clearly had plans to be immortal in some way (as seen by the questionable sequel trilogy at least).

  • @CharleFurnace
    @CharleFurnace 24 дня назад +1

    Difference between the first order and the jedi order is, the first order kidnapped them, the jedi on the other hand, gave the option of not giving up your baby and at least tried to convince the parents that it was in the best interest of the child.

  • @shadydoi859
    @shadydoi859 3 года назад +293

    Sounds to me like matpat is turning to the dark side

  • @thetntking
    @thetntking 4 года назад +125

    The Alderaan disaster was highly controversial in the empire and most people in high ranks highly disliked what Tarkin did

    • @Korbsio
      @Korbsio 4 года назад +12

      they still did it

    • @ZainNL
      @ZainNL 4 года назад +6

      @@Korbsio that's what usually the case when people say they didn't like it _after_ the fact :P

    • @FormulaTurismo
      @FormulaTurismo 4 года назад +6

      Your comment further proves what matpat is saying. As a govering body the empire cared about the people of the galaxy.

    • @Korbsio
      @Korbsio 4 года назад +6

      @@FormulaTurismo You do know they committed multiple geniocides, were racist to every species that wasn’t human and established slavery, right?

    • @Korbsio
      @Korbsio 4 года назад +5

      @@waterloo32594 are u joking or...?

  • @neighborhoodlegends2701
    @neighborhoodlegends2701 4 года назад +371

    I think another thing to consider is the show “StarWars Rebels” it goes into deeper detail of the oppression and corruption of the Imperial government, but that comes down to morals so then we have to ask what are moral and what do we base morals on? What about the Jedi’s morals of no emotion but protect and keep peace? Finally is it even possible to govern an entire glalaxy before something becomes too corrupt?

    • @loltwest9423
      @loltwest9423 4 года назад +19

      Star Wars Rebels is an instant checkmate for the Galactic Empire. That show depicts the Empire as cartoonishly evil.

    • @SailorDoggo
      @SailorDoggo 4 года назад +4

      It's based on the original trilogy and prequels

    • @loltwest9423
      @loltwest9423 4 года назад +17

      @@SailorDoggo That doesn't help his case and he used sources outside of those two anyway. Mattpat is doing something we in the scientific field like to call "cherry-picking."

    • @haicoai6269
      @haicoai6269 4 года назад

      Gyes
      ohruclips.net/video/zFJ2AN_CZH8/видео.html

    • @davidthomas2870
      @davidthomas2870 4 года назад +7

      Even without the corruption problem, just the bureaucratic and logistical issues with a nation of that scale probably make which one was better a moot point; NO nation that large can function well. Realistically, even a nation of an entire single planet cant function very well, much less an entire star system.

  • @HolyknightVader999
    @HolyknightVader999 2 года назад +3

    Under the Old Republic, Naboo, which was a system so important that it had a Senate seat, only had a small starfighter corps and some royal militia as their defense force, and they had to pay for that out of pocket. Under the Empire, Tatooine, a planet so insignificant that Luke describes it as the planet that's the farthest from the center of civilization, had two Imperial-Class Star Destroyers and a large Stormtrooper garrison protecting it. Under the Republic, a crime lord like Jabba the Hutt practically ruled like a sovereign over Tatooine, but under the Empire, he can't walk around outside without a group of bounty hunters protecting him, lest the local Imperials decide to pick him up for "questioning". It goes to show the difference of how secure you can be under the Empire, as opposed to the Old Republic.

    • @darkjediknight2923
      @darkjediknight2923 2 года назад

      THIS. 100%. The Empire - the legitimate government of the wider galaxy - unlike its predecessor does not abandon its People. It establishes the rule of law without exception no matter where you live. The people of the Outer Rim now have free trade, the rule of law enforced by the Imperial Military, the Imperial Academies, an Imperial policing presence that means the criminal and the corrupt can no longer prey on the People. The gangsters can no longer operate with impunity. Slavery is no longer practised brazenly on Tatooine. The Imperials also establish a Sound galactic currency (the Imperial Credit) that is universally accepted currency galaxy wide. No doubt backed by a set number of Twilek females for good measure.

    • @HolyknightVader999
      @HolyknightVader999 2 года назад +4

      @@darkjediknight2923 Exactly. The leaders of the Rebels are the same senatorial aristocrats who had little problem with corporate armies and Outer Rim slavery, and they were mad because the Emperor took away their toys.

    • @darkjediknight2923
      @darkjediknight2923 2 года назад +2

      @@HolyknightVader999 Very true. With the exception of the Organas (Bail, Leia etc) who had some principles and epitomised the honour and grace of the Jedi Order, those other "Rebel" Senators are not even aristocrats of noble character, but rather a bunch of anarchists, or self serving vested interest groups who care little for the galactic populace. They were perfectly content for years to allow slavery to be practised in the open ("The Republic doesn't exist out here. We must fend for ourselves"), for the gangsters to rein free and act brazenly in the open, for levels of corruption beyond imagination, to live lavish lifestyles and hold endless debates going nowhere whilst the galaxy suffered, and indeed for an innocent Naboo system to be subject to an occupation by a Corporation! A corporation that they had no problem with holding a seat in the august Senate itself despite not being an elected representative of a galactic world! The Emperor was not a perfect being by any means - he might have brought his personal issues with the Jedi into the policy agenda too much, he might have had a soft spot for certain Moffs and big statement policies versus the Vader style meritocracy, but one thing you have to give him is he stood up to corruption, he served the People as their legitimate leader and he made it a top priority to bring Galactic Law to the entire galaxy without exception.

  • @justincadarette6414
    @justincadarette6414 2 года назад +1935

    Got to show this to my 7th grade students when looking at the benefits and structures of empires. It was a hit! Thanks MatPat for bringing some fun into the classroom!!

    • @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel
      @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel 2 года назад +124

      You... did tell them though, that in the end, racist, slavering, mass death causing Empires are a bad thing, right?

    • @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel
      @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel 2 года назад +51

      @Hunter Stillman
      Not in the original trilogy, but certainly in the movies.
      Not that it matters. They blew up 2 billion civilians, just to weed out some rebels, I don't think they could possibly be more cartoonishly evil than that.

    • @falahati
      @falahati 2 года назад +29

      @@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel I suppose that depends. If it was a move to put an end to the resistance, it was actually an evil act to prevent further conflicts on other planets hosting billion and billion of people. still by no means a good or justified action, but I can see it as understandable and possibly a lesser of two evils.

    • @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel
      @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel 2 года назад

      @@falahati
      How could this possibly be worth it? What could the resistance possibly do, that would be worse than two billion civilian deaths and the loss of an entire planet?
      It didn't even work, the resistance still defeated the Empire in the end.

    • @thekaiseroftheeast3895
      @thekaiseroftheeast3895 2 года назад

      @@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel Well, the Empire wasn't racist, at least not towards people. From what we've seen, the Empire doesn't discriminate on the basis of race or gender. The Empire is speciest against aliens, but let's face it, humans are pretty much naturally speceist. We slaughter millions of cows, sheep, pigs, etc. every year, every nation does it. And slavery only really applies towards humans not aliens, otherwise using cows for farm labor would be "slavery."

  • @Jack-is-here
    @Jack-is-here 4 года назад +561

    “The empire improves every system it touches”
    All the Wookies who were forced into salt mines on Kessel: Am I a joke to you?

    • @Zula_The_Squid
      @Zula_The_Squid 4 года назад +56

      The Empire was pro human and discriminated aliens.
      Humanity still hasn't even ended racism, in even our highly sophisticated, peaceful and undisputably awesome society so I think you may be putting the bar a little high here.
      _Wookies are as slave-able big foot kind of animal beings you can get after all. At least, there was no racism within the human species in Star Wars. Something not all sentient beings managed to do in the expanded universe._

    • @w0t3rdog
      @w0t3rdog 4 года назад +6

      Well, reports of savages attacking peaceful prospectors dropped on kashykk(cant be bothered to check the spelling) after the nasty hairy things were deported. Perfect for Czerka corp to go in and utilize the planet's neglected resources and turn the planet into a productive member of the galactic community. Seems like improvement to me.

    • @Bmarshall3892
      @Bmarshall3892 4 года назад +3

      Only if your human

    • @liamwarner5749
      @liamwarner5749 4 года назад

      @Hayden Baker I assure you the wookies and Twileks are getting along just fine.

    • @DangNguyen-ph4sg
      @DangNguyen-ph4sg 4 года назад

      aSinloveyunz.link

  • @shaketpepper4899
    @shaketpepper4899 4 года назад +436

    The latest episode also proved the British colonized the entire universe. Not only does nearly every character speak English, one of the Mandalorians said to "put on some tea"

    • @baronvonbork2856
      @baronvonbork2856 4 года назад +25

      Fun Fact: UK isn't the country that consumes to most tea it is Turkey

    • @sk1ttl3svevo52
      @sk1ttl3svevo52 4 года назад +46

      I guess the sun really does never set on the British Empire

    • @command_unit7792
      @command_unit7792 4 года назад +6

      Its galactic basic and other languages are commonly spoken in the Mandalorian.

    • @darthcactusthewise4238
      @darthcactusthewise4238 4 года назад +12

      Actually whenever you hear somebody speaking English in Star Wars they are actually speaking a language called Galactic Basic. Galactic Basic is the Lingua Franca of the Galaxy, that's why so many people speak it. You never see any English writing in Star Wars either, just a pattern of symbols called aurebesh that serves as the written language for Galactic Basic.

    • @Kartoffel3
      @Kartoffel3 4 года назад +1

      @@darthcactusthewise4238 my question is, why are they called x-wings?

  • @Dreamcasttime
    @Dreamcasttime 7 месяцев назад +1

    "Yo, dudes, the empire is pretty chill, maybe you should join it or smt" - Dart Vaider and MatPat

  • @leggomyeggo5773
    @leggomyeggo5773 4 года назад +305

    Everybody: talking about why the empire are the bad guys
    Me: oh no, I'm not brave enough for politics

    • @bagaskara2702
      @bagaskara2702 4 года назад +9

      Wanna buy some death sticks?

    • @leggomyeggo5773
      @leggomyeggo5773 4 года назад +4

      @@bagaskara2702 You do not want to sell me deathsticks

    • @skylanderlego4163
      @skylanderlego4163 4 года назад

      @@leggomyeggo5773 you will go home and rethink your life choices

    • @tbnrrenagade9507
      @tbnrrenagade9507 4 года назад +3

      @@skylanderlego4163 you will help me bring qui-gon jinn back from the dead 'cause he's smarter and wiser than yoda so that we can see if MatPat was right and you will give up the ways of the light side of the force to join me to destroy the Jedi and the sith.

    • @RoXas4878
      @RoXas4878 4 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/CeCKWLyhUBg/видео.html mandalorian canceled season 3

  • @rillegas08backup
    @rillegas08backup 3 года назад +341

    On the other hand, the entire series is Mando traveling the galaxy and finding that societies all over the galaxy are doing just as well as they were before/during the empire. The guy only saw death and chaos because he never traveled to places the empire didn't have a presence

    • @JosephGaming
      @JosephGaming 3 года назад +35

      the new republic keeps no public order, the fact that moff gideon's empire is that strong when the rebellion shold be doing something shows how poor of a leadership they are and as matpat said, the first order managed to get so strong that it blew up 4 planets and ended the new republic

    • @katiehelms8903
      @katiehelms8903 3 года назад +11

      @@JosephGaming the new Republic was still young and building itself up

    • @grimrapper5202
      @grimrapper5202 3 года назад +3

      @@katiehelms8903 ???
      Comparing the five years of the empire?

    • @yuhyuh5674
      @yuhyuh5674 3 года назад +16

      @@grimrapper5202 thing is the empire had already established sovereignty over entire systems due to the clones, which were very slowly phased out with natural troops

    • @grimrapper5202
      @grimrapper5202 3 года назад +2

      @@yuhyuh5674 ???
      The new republics now are pale in comparison nonetheless?

  • @InquisitorKryptman
    @InquisitorKryptman 4 года назад +112

    Matpat: The Empire didn't practice Cultural Imperialism
    Moff Gideon and the great Purge: Imma bout to end this whole man's courier.

    • @BrotherTheory
      @BrotherTheory 4 года назад +1

      @Rohan Dahiya Pluta I completly agree with you, Rohan :)

    • @doomforzombies
      @doomforzombies 4 года назад +2

      @Rohan Dahiya Pluta and it could be called I don’t know Star Wars explained

    • @doomforzombies
      @doomforzombies 4 года назад +1

      @Rohan Dahiya Pluta I know it was a joke about how simple the name is

  • @Opr8rKaz
    @Opr8rKaz Год назад +3

    the way i see it, the Empire reduced world hunger, no jobs, crime rates, all that when they got rid of aldeeran

  • @monopoman
    @monopoman 4 года назад +176

    Matpat: "At least the Empire was more competent, that means they are the best option."

    • @KhanhNguyen-mh5ec
      @KhanhNguyen-mh5ec 4 года назад +4

      Bahahahahaha hahaha Boy the Death Star was such a joke ain’t it?

    • @sasimitra5871
      @sasimitra5871 4 года назад +12

      Competent at their agenda.
      Issue is their agenda

    • @miguelzurita3216
      @miguelzurita3216 4 года назад +14

      The New Republic was bad (in the movies) because of bad writing.

    • @haicoai6269
      @haicoai6269 4 года назад

      Gyes
      ohruclips.net/video/zFJ2AN_CZH8/видео.html

  • @captaindc3889
    @captaindc3889 4 года назад +280

    I think Anakin gave the best answer:
    PEACE FREEDOM JUSTICE AND SECURITY TO MY NEW EMPIRE

    • @coltonmacphee4683
      @coltonmacphee4683 4 года назад +10

      All of that is accurate except for the freedom and justice part.

    • @captaindc3889
      @captaindc3889 4 года назад +5

      And maybe a bit of imperial xenophobia

    • @sceptileswordsman7152
      @sceptileswordsman7152 4 года назад +11

      “You’re new Empire?”

    • @darthhuntanoth3134
      @darthhuntanoth3134 4 года назад +5

      @@coltonmacphee4683 there was no justice during the republic era either.

    • @ZacksRockingLifestyle
      @ZacksRockingLifestyle 4 года назад

      @@sceptileswordsman7152 I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT lmao

  • @moonblaze2713
    @moonblaze2713 4 года назад +364

    Matpat: Of course, we cant just take his word for it, he's clearly with the Empire.
    Also Matpat: Take Tarkin's propaganda, I mean word, for it

    • @falling_vega1257
      @falling_vega1257 4 года назад +36

      Is this not the same doctrine that said the empire should keep everyone in line by using sooo much unnecessary violence that people are too afraid to rebel?

    • @NPCMimic
      @NPCMimic 4 года назад +47

      I love how he also makes sure to talk about extended cannon, but then completely ignores the Rebels cartoon which shows a lot of the issues that normal citizens faced under empire rule on an outer rim planet

    • @onlyaraku
      @onlyaraku 4 года назад +2

      @@NPCMimic yup

    • @zaya234
      @zaya234 4 года назад +2

      I think his point is that Tarkin speaks about the goals of the Empire. That in conjunction with the testimony given by The Client makes it more believable, if multiple people say the same thing then that aids in its plausibility

    • @thecuredivision
      @thecuredivision 4 года назад +10

      @@NPCMimic or how the Empire enslaved entire non-human races like the Wookies.

  • @jessestanford3261
    @jessestanford3261 9 месяцев назад +2

    there was alot of scenes showing Tatooine, but Tatooine is not under the empire, its under Hutt space, and a bunch of other planets to go with it. plus the reason why the jedi didnt want anakin to be trained is because he was too old and already had attachments to his mother(which is why they take them as young children so they dont remember where they came from) and made friends with padme. the jedi have these rules because the dark side calls on negative emotions. which is why anakin turned to the darkside, because his mother was dead and he wanted to protect padme from dying as well. the jedi do it to grow the order to bring balance to the force.

  • @baha17222
    @baha17222 4 года назад +61

    I remember back in the day when he calculated the cost of destroying the death star

  • @certifiedjuicer6894
    @certifiedjuicer6894 4 года назад +194

    That moment when you’re more interested in Star Wars politics than real world politics

    • @teubert2
      @teubert2 4 года назад +8

      Reminds me of how I'm more familiar with World of Warcraft maps than I am with real world maps lol.

    • @dislikethismusicvideoleave2238
      @dislikethismusicvideoleave2238 4 года назад

      This is the worse video ever 🏳️‍🌈🙏🏽 ruclips.net/video/I--rRfdoWEI/видео.html efvvf

    • @blazeofglory4053
      @blazeofglory4053 4 года назад +1

      To be fair, a lot of real world "politics" can be boiled down to name calling and finding out who can yell louder. So I can see why.

  • @katiehelms8903
    @katiehelms8903 3 года назад +2228

    In other words, the galaxy needed an Empire that WASN'T ruled by Sith.

    • @natoneill3278
      @natoneill3278 3 года назад +316

      If I'm not mistaken, I believe this was thrawns goal in legends, a government without the influence of the sith, but with a strong chain of command

    • @coilledragon279
      @coilledragon279 3 года назад +153

      Which, ironically, is pretty much what the Empire became in Legends a few years after Thrawn.

    • @ghuttsmckenzie4269
      @ghuttsmckenzie4269 3 года назад +50

      Or Jedi for that matter.

    • @jarrodritter489
      @jarrodritter489 3 года назад +97

      @@natoneill3278 yeah in the books even admitted that he was trying to rise to high enough rank that when Palpatine died he would be able to influence who the next leader would be. (He didn't understand that since Palpatine was a Sith Lord he wouldn't die of old age)

    • @ZGuy0fSci
      @ZGuy0fSci 3 года назад +26

      idk, The Sith were kinda right about a lot of stuff in the end, lol....
      But yeah, maybe not having those in general corrupted by the use of The Force in charge maybe isn't sucha bad idea but to have it restricted to One or Two people who understand power? yee

  • @jasonrobertson1284
    @jasonrobertson1284 Год назад +4

    I think pre disney cannon displayed this a lot more. They clearly discuss the destruction of the deathstar in low orbit killed the ewoks gave them all cancer except 2 stuffed and outside the senate. The nogiri have almost identical situation and Vader legit saves as much if the species as humanly possible

  • @mfmageiwatch
    @mfmageiwatch 4 года назад +53

    Tarkin was written after Disney took over, it's not legends, it's canon.

  • @omnitroph1501
    @omnitroph1501 4 года назад +276

    Matpat: "when talking to Luke, Vader didn't say anything about power or control"
    Vader: "Together we can RULE THE GALAXY AS FATHER AND SON!"

    • @ItsRileyYT
      @ItsRileyYT 4 года назад +4

      Unless you look at starkiller
      What Luke’s training would have had to been

    • @Davenzoid
      @Davenzoid 4 года назад

      @@ItsRileyYT what?

    • @ItsRileyYT
      @ItsRileyYT 4 года назад

      @@Davenzoid look it up

    • @Davenzoid
      @Davenzoid 4 года назад +3

      @@ItsRileyYT naw, having trouble understanding your comment

    • @ItsRileyYT
      @ItsRileyYT 4 года назад +1

      @@Davenzoid it’s deep Star Wars lore
      You wouldn’t understand

  • @georgehackett5187
    @georgehackett5187 4 года назад +555

    Matpat: Now I don't want to take the word of this guy, he's clearly biased
    Also Matpat: completely believes the word of the literal Grand Moff of the Empire, one of the most powerful people in the galaxy

    • @retosius7962
      @retosius7962 4 года назад +24

      why lie about how the world was before the empire was? if anything at least that part would be good evidence that the place was complete chaos.

    • @levrawonline
      @levrawonline 4 года назад +21

      @@retosius7962 Plus it was shown in the Clone Wars that he like Anakin used to be a Republic man, until the system also seemed to force his hand in war to make moves he disagreed on and that in his opinion risked more lives. Anakin and him saw eye to eye in this regard during the war. Something about the way the senate directed them just didnt sit right with him. He is a witness of both systems.

    • @daefaron
      @daefaron 4 года назад +2

      @@levrawonline IIRC The Tarkin Doctrine/his extreme views came about after Palpatine manipulated events to have a rebelling system event cause the death of his son, which drove Tarkin into a more extreme stance on order and crushing rebellions through making them scared.

    • @Sillymonroll
      @Sillymonroll 4 года назад

      Lo l
      ^_^

    • @Mrblob100
      @Mrblob100 2 года назад

      @@retosius7962 > why lie about how the world was before the empire was?
      Cann you not comprehend why he would lie?

  • @lordlaughypants5889
    @lordlaughypants5889 2 года назад +27

    And as Clerks points out, everyone on the second Death Star knew the risks and had to know that they were building a planet destroying non-moon.
    Also, let's not forget that the reason Alderaan was destroyed was because the planet Leia said their base was on was not important enough to make a statement. It wasn't even because they believed it was a Rebel base.

    • @HolyknightVader999
      @HolyknightVader999 2 года назад +3

      Alderaan supported the Rebels. For all Tarkin knew, it was another Geonosis, and we all know how hard it was for the Republic to take those Geonosian bastards down.

    • @AlechiaTheWitch
      @AlechiaTheWitch 2 года назад

      Dantoine. Was actually investigated by imperials and did have a base on it. Buujt it was abandoned.

    • @LanMandragon1720
      @LanMandragon1720 2 года назад

      The risks aren't even relevant a naval base has always and will always be a legitimate target. The size of said base is entirely irrelevant to the question the whole idea it was a war crime is absurd.

    • @midgetydeath
      @midgetydeath Год назад

      Why did they have to know? It’s a secret. The crew and workers have no reason at all to be told what it is. And the Empire chose a highly visible Rebel base over a low visibility Rebel base. It was still due to their support of the rebellion.

    • @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel
      @ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel Год назад

      @@midgetydeath Alderaan was not in open rebellion, though. If it had been, Leia wouldn't have been able to pretend that she was on a diplomatic mission.
      And even with Alderaan's current government potentially planning to join the rebellion, heck, even if Alderaan HAD rebelled, this still wouldn't have justified this.
      This is like, if the Senator of Texas supported rebels planning to take over the US and as a response, they nuked every single square mile of the state and then sank the entire landmass into the ocean, killing every single living being there and ensuring that nothing could ever live there, again. It's not a warranted response by any metric.
      Also: the workers definitely knew what they were working on. There had already been a Deathstar and it had blown up a planet.