Cutting the Oil Pan & Subframe - Honda K-Swap 240SX
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- We're at NV Auto trying to fit our Honda K24A2 K-Swap engine into our Nissan 240SX. Will it fit and work? Follow along as we figure out how to swap a Honda K24 engine into our S14 Nissan 240SX.
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Sorry for the music audio level snafu. Looks like an issue with the output in Adobe. We'll be more careful in our following vids.
I want to know more about the K-swap Integra you were racing at willow springs. That old video of you racing Ferrari's and mustangs was really inspiring and I want to know what mounts you used.
You can see the parts list in our swap guide here: speed.academy/k-series-honda-swap-guide-k20-k24-how-to-parts-needed-part-1/
We used Hasport engine mounts and have continued to use them for all our kswap projects.
I was just gonna mention something about that for the past couple vee-jay-os. thx
guys, it is not only audio...I commented on this in past, it is basically not possible to hear you at all and at the same time all the tools are maxed out and whole family is woken up ....I actually stopped watching yours videos because of this as I have the time only in night time for it. It is sad fact tho as your vids are so great. Please try to do something with it, there is quite a few car chanels on youtube you can watch and not actually wake up everybody around 50meters with angle grinder noise in the midnight :)
Keep that K-Swap 240x Content coming!!! Good job fellas!
Can't say enough how happy I am to finally see somebody doing this.
This is a super ambitious build and I see why Nobody Does it... but that's why I like you guys you don't follow the rules and you do things just a little bit different at Speed Academy
Some ITBs would remind me the AE86 builds out there. It would be cool if you go that way.
Foodencio oh hey that's what I'm doing. K20A2 itbs in an ae86
ITBs on a K series is very common as well
Take them off the s2000 and replace them with a supercharger
awesome dude. record and upload it, please!
yes, and would make the car very unique
thanks for hanging it all out for us (showing the ups and downs)
Almost makes me want to go out and Kswap a S14. Loving the series
i really appreciate the use of ppe and keeping the shield on the grinder
Sorry, but it Was so funny watching Pete stress over the subframe spacers!
Lowering the subframe 1 inch is the same as lowering the car 1 inch. Yes you can easily fix the bumpsteer, no you cannot fix your now horrible camber curve.
Also, think about offsetting the engine to the passenger side by a half inch or so. Most cars are like this from the factory and it will help the left to right balance of the car.
Also, I LOVE THIS SWAP! Great choice and thanks for the great content!
really good point. I would go with dry sump and custom subframe with orignal suspension settings.
yeah, i'd lower the sub frame as "proof of concept" and get the motor mounts set, then lower the steering rack only on a new subframe mounted back at the stock hight, then correct for bumpsteer ...cool build tho
If Moose was installing this, it would be in by now.
He'd just crush the crossmember with his bare hands until there was enough clearance.
If anyone was doing this, other than NV auto, they wouldnt be wasting their time.
Dave looking like a beauty with the sweats and blundstones.... keep up the good work fellas
K24 block k20 head
upvote the fuck out of this comment
my thought exactly!!!!!!
Yes!!!
When you said you were rswapping out the SR i was like.. ehhhhhh. But I'm really loving this Kswap build. Is pretty awesome.
I'm enjoying this video series, liking the regular updates, keep up the good work...
Check out the HPD dry sump valve cover. You'll have to figure out a way to check and add oil, but it is lower profile.
that is made for the HPD dry sump setup. So they would have to go dry sump :p
PETE MAN! Be sooooo careful reaching under a suspended load like that, I had visions of a one-armed man driving Toronto Motorsports...he didn't fare well😅
Subframe spacers, good idea!
Very entertaining build! Can’t wait to hear total cost. This is going to definitely going to change my next car project. 🤙🏼
This is such a sick build. Good on ya Speed Academy!
Please equalise the audio levels
James Downes x2
I went deaf when they started cutting
Yesssss
+1
yes, please for our ears
Keep the updates up!! Favorite car on RUclips now!
This is an awesome build. Definitely following up on the rest of this build. Good luck.
Great swap guys am looking forward to every single video
I think Peter was ready to try and lift that K24 by himself when I sounded like it was going to fall.
I think a trimmed D-max hood might have help with clearance & help extract some heat at the same time.
I would go Supercharged rather than turbo if you want to go that route! Keeps that N/A feeling. Great work tho!
Best line yet! “I’ll just paint the valve cover red, right?”
love the s14 videos!! this is a cool unique swap
You can buy a front subframe with the rack moved forward from Street Faction.
So excited for this build, thanks for the great content guys!
do the rack relocation .... you will gain 3/4 to 1 inches ! you cut the front subframe and take the rack in and reweld..
It'll be interesting to see the final result.
12:15 you can always tell the owner vs the friend lol
Owners over worry. Friends always say fuck it just do it! Who cares if your car blows up 😂😂
Great build guys! Keep up the great work!
nice work !! i did a whole lot of subframe cutting on my ls swap!
Move the point where the control arm connects to the subframe up 1 inch, and you'll have no dramas. They do it in the rear of the Holden Commodores to make up for the terrible suspension geometry when lowered(even from factory it was jacked, a camber or camber/toe kit fixes static camber but it's still messed).
Also worth reinforcing the bolt holes at the same time, given that you'll end up having to pull it out. If there is enough meat, it wouldn't hurt to go higher if it doesn't affect motor placement. Simple enough to enlarge the boxes with some 3mm plate bent up and reinforced if you want to return it to factory geometry.(not sure about 240sx subframes, so you'll have to forgive me).
If you've already considered it, do eeeeet.
If you need to do something to the hood, like other people said cut the webbing, but if you need something custom, should do a hump like on the 350z hood!
Every time you guys say 2-4 I think about a case of beer... 😂🍺
This is the best you tube project I've seen of late. Great work boys!
You guys are the best!
Subframe spacers are the perfect solution for that.
BMW E30 and E36 Guys do it all the time here in Germany when they Swap BMW V8's and V12's in their Cars.
Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
Why no dry sump? Judging by the angle of the oil pan and valve cover it seems the engine should sit at an angle. How is that going to factor in to your hood clearance.
You went full Farmer canadien on this one haha i like that
Go TURBO! You will love it I promise.
Great stuff! Why didn't you remove the upper radiator cross bar to make engine install easier? With the number of test fits you guys have done, not swinging it over that bar would have been way easier, no?
Literally 18 minutes ago there was no video so i missed the notification
This is awesome... think I may put a k24a2 in my 71 240z.
sick gc in the back!
Have you thought of turning the engine on its side?? Like M+BMW needed to do in its M3
Charley George oil would sit to the side of the pan and wouldn't be picked up
They're modifying the pan so they may as well mod it around the pickup lol
The thing is they already are using an adapter for the transmission so why not tilt it to the side. That would make more sense. It will also lower the center of gravity. The only problem they will need to make sure does not crop up is oil starvation. But that can easily be fixed by the same thing BMW did. Just grab those parts which are probably a dime a dozen.
They dont NEED to do that, they turn it at exactly 12 degrees for a reason, not for fitment
k20 head on a k24 is great for all motor ks on a pretty basic setup I made 260 wheel on a low reading dyno
Sr20ve would hav been a decent swap, less hassle. Enjoying this swap so far tho!
Great project! Something different for sure. I do however think 25mm spacers on the subframe will change the roll center quite a bit. The control arms are near horisontal on a stock car, so depending on your ride heigth the geometry will be way off when lowered.
Great work guys keep up the good stuff. Might be the just the video, But the transmission looks a little a short. Is the shifter in a good spot inside the car?
I can’t believe you are putting the engine so far in front of the wheel centerline, dry dump it and push it into the firewall for better handling, or cut the pickup off and make it a rear sump. And for god sakes stop putting yourself under the engine that is only held up by an engine hoist, I’ve seen grade 8 bolts brake and engines fall, not a good idea
There is 20mm free space under the valve cover end If you have to make more clearance to the hood.
The T on that Turn14 shirt looks like the Telemundo icon lol
Put a skid plate or make one so at least the oil pan wont get dented, keep the grip s14 vids. coming
Are you going going to r&d some parts to sell like drive shaft and motor mounts?
There is a guy from new jersey that did the coversion with a s13 hatch you can probably find him on the 240 page on face book the person that owns it now uploaded a video on youtube
Dry sump it ! it will save you a lot of trouble.
Robert Rożek dry sumps often bring more trouble
Hmmm Make a pan and buy a pump, reservoir, hoses and fittings and you'd pay less than $1000
I was thinking this the whole time he was cutting the pan and replacing the oil pump
I'm sure with all their sponsors they wouldn't have a problem finding somebody to hook them up with a dry sump kit
I dry sumped my F20c engine swap, and believe me, I wish I could have kept it wet sump.
Good video. don't mess too much with the subframe lowering, bumpsteer! Oh and do the two main guys, make my gaydar go off, especially the dude with the beard?
Surely you could have cut that ali block across the long face using more blade and not taking forever?
Could've probably cut faster anyway if it was only alum
You guys need the type s specific long windage tray to go with the pump.
you could always lengthen the steering shaft in the middle to what would work
A wild Ken Wagen appears!
Dam...i wana k20 on my s14 too now
Does cutting the oil pan run the risk of messing with how oil gets to the pickup?
RallyDriva definitely does. Dry sump is the way for this swap.
Also oil starvation
@5:15 we get a nice view of where the waterpump bolts up... and I can't help but notice all the water passages are nice and rusty... as someone looking to do a junk yard engine swap soon and very potentially will be dealing with the same issue, how do you clean all that out?
If its an aluminium block: either don't worry about it or just use a power washer. Not too sure about iron lol
Did you guys plug the extra oil hole from the k24 pump
Might be a horrible idea, but could you swap the front knuckles from left to right, putting the tie rod connections towards the front of the car, extend the steering linkage, then move the steering rack in front of the engine?
I know this is an older video and the car is complete. I just have a question regarding the subframe spacers. Is there any type of fabrication that could have been removed from the equation since putting the subframe spacers on gave you so much extra room? (Cutting the subframe, modifying the oil pan, etc) or was all of that still necessary to be able to fit the motor/transmission into place?
Best regards and a gorgeous car.
Necessary to make it fit.
is there a rule against modifing the subframe on 240sx for drift/race events
These dudes talk as though they are in a porno for some reason. "Yeah, like a champ..." 😂
Also agree with some people here, dry sump and k20 head.
This is going to be cool.
Hey quick unrelated question. Where did you get your konig wheels for the civic? Help a canadian brother out plz
You should put the rack and pinion in front of the harmonic bouncer
Those spacers are gonna make it a bump steerimg night mare. Toyotas have a totally different suspension set up and they put inch nrcas in to correct for the subframe spacers
Are you gonna put an oil pan baffle? I’ve read some rumblings on the interwebs about oil starvation on hard left hard turns in Honda’s with K engines.
We have to do extensive baffling. Future episode content.
Yeah it’s going to need the k20 head
could you put some spacers between the subframe and the body to five you alittle more space?
Too bad nobody makes a bolt in subframe and oil pan that would solve these clearance issues. If they did I'd be doing a K swap in my S14. Would a F series require the same sort of modifications to the subframe?
looking good !!!
why dont you build a new firewall and make it a front midengine car and but the whole engine behind the subframe. would be super dope
Fun times!
Really missing the celica build man :(
Can you do a tubular subframe so its easier to move all of that about?
The Spare Tire I second this suggestion
What are you going to do about the decreased oil capacity of the chopped pan?
What are you doing pan baffle wise?
Man I wish you'd guys would sell s chassis stuff on your website
Fernando Moreno throw them an email, they will help you out!
Heck yeah!
Would it not be easier to find an s14 tubular front cross member
Why don't you move the motor further back? Dry sump or modded subframe...
Dry sump?
What oil pain u used k24 ? Work with the type s oil pump?
Make sure you have that motor at the correct angle.
When are you going to ditch the stock subframe and fab it from scratch!!!
Guys, don't forget to block off one oil hole, after you replace they oil pump.
sub frame spacing is a bad idea. imho. that will mess with geometry so bad, weight balance will be effected. aero the car will be raked all weird. bad please no
Good stuff
hell flippin yes!!!!!