Best Bit Holder? Milwaukee vs DeWalt, Makita, Hilti, Irwin, Ryobi, Bosch, Neiko, Wera, Wiha
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Bit Holder Brands Tested: Wiha, Wera, Milwaukee, Crescent Vortex, Norske, DeWalt, Neiko, Hilti, Irwin, Makita Gold, Bosch, Ryobi, Makita ImpactX, Yakamoz, Tomoto Palace, Horusdy. Bit holders compared for maximum torque before failure, magnetic bit retention holding strength, magnetic hold on fasteners, speed of driving in fasteners, and wear resistance. All bits tested until failure. I purchased all of the bit holders to ensure an unbiased review. So, thank you for supporting the channel.
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Wera: amzn.to/3y0X8KT
Milwaukee: amzn.to/3Kkn7j1
Crescent Vortex: amzn.to/3KkskYe
Norske: amzn.to/3vl1Z7Y
DeWalt (locking): amzn.to/3ki3NIw
DeWalt: amzn.to/3EQnwZn
Neiko: amzn.to/3KjqXsv
Hilti: amzn.to/36WHS6Q
Irwin: amzn.to/3EQlUPc
Makita GOLD: amzn.to/3vjVke6
Makita ImpactX: amzn.to/3xX1rqI
Bosch: amzn.to/3vkVIJC
Ryobi: amzn.to/3KfeuGx
Yakamoz: amzn.to/3MCKVAj
Tomato Palace: amzn.to/3MX4qWN
Horusdy: amzn.to/36Q61f4
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Here’s the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you!
Wiha: amzn.to/3vu91rj
Wera: amzn.to/3y0X8KT
Milwaukee: amzn.to/3Kkn7j1
Crescent Vortex: amzn.to/3KkskYe
Norske: amzn.to/3vl1Z7Y
DeWalt (locking): amzn.to/3ki3NIw
DeWalt: amzn.to/3EQnwZn
Neiko: amzn.to/3KjqXsv
Hilti: amzn.to/36WHS6Q
Irwin: amzn.to/3EQlUPc
Makita GOLD: amzn.to/3vjVke6
Makita ImpactX: amzn.to/3xX1rqI
Bosch: amzn.to/3vkVIJC
Ryobi: amzn.to/3KfeuGx
Yakamoz: amzn.to/3MCKVAj
Tomato Palace: amzn.to/3MX4qWN
Horusdy: amzn.to/36Q61f4
Dude yes! Perfect way to start the day. Thank you for all the hard work you put into these videos. I’ve made several purchases based off these videos and they’ve all been great! My opinion of this channel: “Very impressive.” ✌️
Thank you very much!! This means lot to me!!
@@ProjectFarm I 2nd the Goose!
Where do you Live? Australia?😅
here in Europe we finish the day!it's 10 pm here
@@TGBdani hey, it's a great way to prepare for a new week :D
THANK YOU for testing magnetic hold and pull out strength. Two very useful items to have in my book.
You are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.
@@ProjectFarm hey I use these bit holders everyday a lot, and the Norske got clogged up within 2 days (I bought 2) and it stopped working within a week for both, all I was using it for was screwing advantech down with saber drive screws. The DEWALT foreskin sheath and Milwaukee locking but work the best imo, just don’t beat up the sheath DEWALT it’s most helpful for screwing screws one handed while reaching out on pumpjacks
@@chowderwhillis9448 Norske clogged? Dirt? metal shavings? How did it stop working? lost all magnetism? stripped out? clogged?
@@chowderwhillis9448 I like the term foreskin sheath so fitting 😂
I've watched almost every video you've posted in the last 3 years and want to say thank you, for all the hard work that you've put into helping all of us make educated purchases. Keep up the awesome work.
Thank you very much!
I have to agree with David. I've avoided entire products because of this channel..
I have the Wera and love it !! It’s interesting that almost all the stuff that’s included Wera has finished always close to the top. It always been my favorite brand. It just works
It exactly what you should expect from tools made around Wuppertal. It's in their DNA and the water supply!
It better for the price.
@@AustinMichael you mean less than half of snapoff?
Crescent Vortex: "It claims to be unstoppable and unbreakable" Those words don't exist on Project Farm😊 Thanks Todd for another awesome vid👍
Thanks and you are welcome!
"UNBREAKABLE"... what genius GYPSY college-marketing graduate thinks that's a believable claim?? 😆
@@ProjectFarm j
J eore
"we're gonna test that"
@@hightttech The same dimwits that keep selling 'shatterproof' plastic tubs at both Rubbermade and Sterilite, among others.
You always do such an outstanding job making these testing videos. I not only like your testing methods, but the close up shots as well. Thank you!
Thank you very much!! This means a lot coming from you. Your videos are outstanding!!
Yes doesn't he.
From simple things to tools. Even car care, I offer few suggestions to testing.
This man is a visionary.
Yes just the facts. And no fluff or wasted time.
I was thinking the same thing. These are so well done.
@@ProjectFarm 1:01 Tomato Palace 🍅 $5 dollars for 10 bits or $2 dollars each ? 🕵 you meant ¢50 cents each, or is my math wrong someone?🤷♂
"i'm going to break some, so i bought two"
that's the sort of testing we have come to expect from project farm
Thank you very much!
@@ProjectFarm and shout out to cousin eddie too lol
Reading this comment right when the Crescent "unstoppable and unbreakable" claim was read in the video. I chuckled!
I love how Wiha and Wera have become staples of these kinds of tests. I hadn't even heard of them until they showed up on your channel. I'll definitely be looking towards one of them when it's time to upgrade. Also, those Makita bit removal jokes were gold!
Thanks for sharing!
German quality engineering. Also I believe there pronounced vee-iha and vee-era as W in German is pronounced like a V in English.
Lowes has the terminator 40 piece wiha bits for 30
Would love to see a test on paint strippers, aircraft stripper VS one of the eco friendly safer to use brands. Would also be neat to see if brake fluid removes paint as much as people say it does
Thank you for the video idea!
Anti freeze coolant also is know in France for ruining the paint.
Just use carb/choke cleaner or brake fluid. That stuff not only strips the paint, but it devours it. lol
@@AAP0000 it's just a little expensive for a whole car🤣
Sadly, "Aircraft stripper" no longer contains Methylene Chloride, which was the powerhouse for getting paint to really just jump off surfaces. One would have to try an industrial remover that still has the Methylene Chloride to really get true results of what aircraft stripper used to be like.
Excellent idea! I have a drawer full of these and can definitely tell the difference between the cheap ones and the more expensive ones.
Another good one Todd!
Thank you very much!
I have been using the DeWalt with the lock for many many years and put it through endless hard work and have had no issues at all. Really great bit holder.
The "unknown" test in my case is "where did I lose my bit at?" For the strength of the Horusdy, I'd say $10 for 10 bits it a pretty good deal for those who put them through thousands of cycles in rough environments. If one breaks or gets lost, not a big deal.
Actually $2.00 each. Sorry for the mistake!
@@ProjectFarm still a good price
same with bits, so buy a tin of them.
@@ProjectFarm where can i buy them?
@@michaelp1758 There's Amazon links in the description
Can you test different types and brands of oil filter wrenches for gripping power, handle articulation for getting into awkward spaces, cost, etc? We love and trust your unbiased tests. Keep up the great work. Thanks.
Thank you for the video idea!
@TheCheesePlease
Pull my finger.
@TheCheesePlease agreed, virtually never necssary
And what about people with arthritis or something similar? Not very "useless" for them.
An oil filter wrench is just as important as many other tools. the girly-men below pay to have their oil changed so their powder-puff tool set doesn't include one.. I know what has worked for me and what has failed in the past but it's always interesting to see what cousin Eddy's cousin comes up with..
This is a bizarre coincidence. I had to use a bit holder yesterday while installing a garage door. After dropping the screw socket a few times and having to climb up and down the ladder to fetch it, I was wondering if there were better holders than the Black & Decker one I have. Thanks!
You can assume there's always something better than whatever black and decker product you're using. Black and decker is bottom barrel across the board these days.
That is irritating way to lose bits
@@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter In Europe B&D has several ranges.
the cheap B&D range, fair Stanley range, good Piranha drills/bits etc. etc. range, Dewalt/Stanley fatmax toprange.
Sad when so many brands like b&d, Stanley, craftsman etc used to make good stuff. Now like the majority of the industry of most products it's just about pumping out junk for profit. Sad x's.
I do make sure to support, purchase from & rave about good companies tho who value their reputation & customers & take pride in making quality stuff & take responsibility for the x's something goes wrong which can of course happen.
Anything black and decker is garbage
I love being able to go back to videos like this when I'm shopping for something specific.
Thanks!
Thanks for sharing.
notification squad, Have a nice weekend!🔥🔥🔥
Always great seeing your comment! Thanks!!
“5 dollars for 10 pieces or 2$ each” i think you may have got the 5 and 10 mixed for Tomato palace
Oops. Sorry about that I meant 10 dollars for 5 pieces.
Being tight fisted I'd slap some weld on the Tomato Palace bit...Mint👌🏻
Happy to see Hilti products make it into the rotation. Helps to see if their premium price point is reflected in product quality based on comparative testing.
All the Hilti bits are just rebranded Wera
Thanks!
@@ProjectFarm heres a god damn suggestion.. i worked construction, in cairns, aus. with a bunch of vikings.sweeds,, they drink vodka like water, but,, they had these crawbars,[ wrecking bars], to you,, about 3' long alloy color.. they dont rust.. they dont bend, they dont get stolen,,or you die..&, they ring..would love one, but. not sold in aus..craw bar,, with the bent ends & 2 toe foot. pinch bar,?.. anyhoo. more value than gold..still waiting for the vid of the difference between blonds, red heads & natural. im sure the missus changes color hair for the moods..im so confused.. thanks tod, stay safe, . vote for humanity, not poli,s..
@@harrywalker5836 that was a very entertaining read. Hopefully your head doesnt hurt when you get up in the morning
Not sure, but those Viking wrecking bars might be made by a company called “Svedbro Smide.” They call it the “Tove” wrecking bar. Pricy, but they look like some quality pieces.
This channel has become invaluable.
Every time ima buy a tool or blade or whatever…. There’s an in depth video.
So many channels that are thinly veiled ads.
Thanks
Thanks and you are welcome!
I've got the Wera for a couple years now and am very happy with it! Came in the diamondcoated bits set and holds up great just like the bits themselves
Great feedback on the Wera. Seems very well worth the price!
@@ProjectFarm it sure is! easily one of my best purchases for the workshop, just like the knipex parallel pliers (those with the smooth jaws) and the inbus keys with that "hexplus" feature.
When someone asks for tips for tool purchases those are always on the list, next to quality safetyglasses (I use Oakley M-Frame) and comfortable, quality earprotection (3M Peltor X5A in my case).
Having comfortable and quality basics makes the whole experience a lot more enjoyable (especially when working with powertools that require PPE)
Just picked up a couple Wiha locking bit holders. Gotta check out the Wera
@@jackof1 For sure something to look into in the future. The set I referred to was "WERA BIT-CHECK BC 30 DIAMOND 1"
I just checked, I bought them 4th of april 2018 and of each type the first one is now worn to such a degree that I prefer to use another but are still usable. They are obviously not used every day but i'd say at least twice a week
I got my Wera bit after watching Project Farm, holds up!
I would love to go to a project farm garage sale
Thank you!!
I'd be tempted to say that the time to drill each screw in with everyone of the bit holders is so close at times that it is more often going to be decided by factors such as the applied pressure on the drill, the particular grain of the wood at any random section, and the angle at which any screw is being driven in. Having three trials eliminates some of this variability partially, but I think only so much. They are all so incredibly close. What really matters here is the wear and tear more than anything.
Thanks for the feedback.
@@ProjectFarm love the videos regardless
I agree, and I also still have a hard time understanding "why", except for the difference in weight of the bit holder and potentially the impact absorbing "design features", the times would be different at all? Aren't they all spinning at the max speed the Impact driver produces?
I can't speak for the creator, but some bits tested claim to absorb shock to protect bits and fasteners. This would absorb impacts and slow driving. I think this was why it was tested.
@@MissPenguin I had the same question, but think it is because the nature of an impact driver is to repeatedly apply torque and then relax; if there is a lot of twist in the shaft or free movement on each stroke, that would use up some energy.
I really appreciate the content you put out. Not bland, informative, purpose of helping others find the best products they can. Only creator I’m a member of patreon for, I hope the videos keep coming for a good while longer 👍
Thanks so much! Thanks for being a Patreon!
Your videos and testing methodology is invaluable!
Thank you for the time and effort each video takes.
Would you consider adding chapter markers in the future?
For ease of access in going back to a certain section it would be very helpful.
(Gamers Nexus, especially their weekly update videos, has an excellent implementation for reference)
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
Great video!
One are I would like to see improved is the torque test. It looks like you are applying a bending moment sometimes and others not. This is combined loading (torsion and bending) which can significantly affect the results. It would be nice if you could build a rig that holds everything coaxially. I this would generate more consistent results.
One way to achieve this is with two u-joints: it's impossible to apply a side load then, provided the joints are approximately straight.
I’ll never get tired of this channel. It’s always my
Go to when getting tools
Thanks!
My craftsman impact driver set came with one, Funny thing is it was too small for anything to fit down in it
Great feedback!
You do an incredible job, with a mechanical engineering degree I am always impressed with your processes and approach! Always a Sunday afternoon highlight for me. And I have purchased Milwaukee tools and other tools because of you. Keep it up. "Very impressive" indeed.
Thanks so much! Your feedback means a lot to me!
@@ProjectFarm an idea. I have dug into MSDS of hoppes 9 and other oil and cleaning products and found they are, many times, 99% the same as common products such as mineral oil, atf, hyrdraulic fluid. Would you take the winning CLP and compare to basic off the shelf products?
It claims to be unstoppable and unbreakable... We're going to test that! Love the content. Yet ANOTHER great comparison and strength test by Project Farm. Love the logical testing, I base my purchases on these tests. Thanks again.👍
Thanks and you are welcome!
I have started looking at this channel before I even log onto a website to start shopping. Mr. Farm (May I call you Project?), you are a Wallet Saver, not to mention frustration.
Tomato palace. “$5 for 10 bits, or $2 each”. Is this the state of mathematics in America?
Even though I do not get to use tools as much as I used to...it is still so fun to watch these and research before buying products. Research on the Wera brought me here...think I may go Bosch for my use case after watching this. Thanks! (I subscribed)
Can we get a best impact nut driver? Also as a mechanic I'd love to see some videos about open end wrenches, rachets and sockets! Keep up the great work man
Thank you for the video ideas!
I bought the Wera color coded about 2 weeks ago and man are they nice
Thanks for your work on these comparisons. I’m curious as to what you are testing when you drive the three screws. It would seem to test the driver as (much) or more than the bit holder.
Sorry I didn't explain this better. The build design impact how much torque is delivered to the bit to drive in the fastener. Many of the bit holders have a torque zone that twists a little to dampen the impact. Thanks again
I also recently learned about this from an auto mechanic when I couldn’t drive a bolt with the impact driver and a deep socket and he gave me a short socket that did the job!
I've only used a few of these, never had enough load to break one so far. I personally love the Makita Gold and their golden bits, love Hilti except that it is difficult to pull the bit out.
Thanks for sharing.
The detail, effort, and pure passion you pour into your videos is simply astounding. Thank you very much, Todd. Your videos are the hi point of my weekend.
Thanks so much!
Hello! I am a bit ( :P ) surprised there's a difference in driving speed dependent on the bit holder. Does this only apply for impact drivers or would this be similar for a 'normal' cordless drill?
Mostly for impacts. The slower ones are slower because it's not as rigid through the shank and/or more slop holding the bit. You lose power off each impact because of this flex and slop. For a normal drill, it's never unloading the torque so it's not as noticeable.
@@ObservationofLimits That's what I assumed after having seen the video! Thanks! :)
this drives you
@@uiopuiop3472 xD
Nice explanation. Can you also explain how a bit extension can generate heat? That was crazy how some of them got so hot.
3:01 This style Dewalt was the first I got like this 20 years ago. Ill say it drove in a ton of drywall and deck screws over the years, using a cordless drill and setting the clutch as needed. It broke once I chucked it into an impact driver, and it broke fast. It definitely isn’t very strong compared to others, but I’ve had a few of them over the years and liked the size and sleeve on it, using with a cordless drill and clutch, they seemed to work fine for me. I learned not to use them for high torque or in an impact gun.
Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for all the great testing, you’ve saved lots of time and money!
Have you considered doing a video on common chisels? They come in a very broad range of prices, and it would be nice to know if the expensive ones are actually worth the money.
You are welcome! Thanks for the video idea.
It's funny how something like a bit holder can become a pretty important part of your day depending on the day's project so I really appreciate this video. I recognized that $5 DeWalt bit holder and thought, "I have that one. Why don't I use it?" You reminded me why. I think it's time for me to toss that one out.
Thanks for sharing.
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For long-term investment perhaps if you have $5000 in BTC in 2016. That would valued at almost $600,000 today there is no metal in existence that has seen that kind of value increase.
Question, whenever you're measuring/testing each product, can you flash the brand logo and model number (and gen if applicable) on the screen please? Love what you're doing thank you so much!
New drinking game: Whenever he says a tool brand, take a shot.
I've died 45 seconds in
This guy really enjoys breaking stuff, you can see it in his smile and hear it in his voice. I am a engineer; I enjoy your effort.
lol Thanks!
I found out the hard way about the Makita Impact X. I was able to pinch the retaining rings so they widened a bit and much easier to install and remove. But I'm now interested in mostly the bosch and wera for the convenience features.
Thanks for sharing.
you think Bosch would be better than the Irwin ? Seems like Irwin more convenient
Good to know the Wera bit holder that came with my toolkit is actually as good as i would expect considering the whole kit was was only about 3 times the price of the holder you reviewed. Glad you are including Hilti now. Though it is hard to test it would be great to know how the best hold up over time.
Thanks for sharing
good to know my dewalt bit holder that came in a $11 bit set will burst into flames :)
Great video as always...sometimes I see what is better than what I currently have but most of the times my tools and why I bought them are reinforced. Best channel on RUclips
Thank you very much!
No PB Swiss, for shame. You got me all excited about the PB Swiss screwdrivers it would have been nice to have them included, as well. Their 57mm extension bit hold is one piece. Would be an interesting comparison as it would be the only one piece of the lot.
Thanks for the video idea.
Tomato palace!
Do they put words in a raffle tumbler to create these names 😂
lol. Great point!
Amazed at the difference in quality between the two Dewalt holders. One of my bit-and-holder sets is a Dewalt one that I picked up cheaply and it's perfectly fine but compared to my Wera bit holders it isn't quite as nice to use. It doesn't have quite such a smooth rotation to the sleeve, or the precision in the bit-loading. I'm nitpicking, mind... it's like complaining that the heated seats in a BMW 7 series aren't quite as good as those in a Mercedes S-class.
I have a rather unhealthy Wera habit, every tool I've bought from them is excellent and a pleasure to use - but boy oh boy do you pay for that! Should last a lifetime though.
Thanks for sharing.
"Amazed at the difference in quality between the two Dewalt holders." Made in China: bad Made in Taiwan: good
You made the weirdest analogy with the luxury cars. But I fully understand where you’re coming from.😂
@@WashJosh Ha, it was late and I was tired!
Unhealthy? No. My mindset is that if my great-grandkids won't fight over who gets my tools when my grandson eventually dies, I haven't shopped wisely. :grin:
Love all your videos. Seen every one! Just looked back yesterday at the wiper blade review before replacing mine. Thanks for what you do!
Thank you very much!
Agreed, I don't use half the tools featured at PF but the wiper blade review was widely applicable to tons of people. More than the wax but the wax one was mesmerizing, just watching Todd use his creative jigs and methodical testing is always inspiring.
Another excellent video that will guide future purchases. My 6 children and I watch your videos every Monday before they go to bed and we all enjoy them. Both boys and girls ranging in age 5 to 16. My 10 year old suggests a video on paint brushes. Thanks and have a great week!
Thanks! Thanks for the 10 year old's video idea on paint brushes.
As a contractor, I’ve bought thousands of these for my men to use over the decades I’ve been in business. Trust me when I tell you that you don’t want your bit holder to be super strong. I’d rather a $2 bit holder to break rather than transfer all of that torque to the $200 impact driver and mess up an internal part. I’ve sent in several dozens of impact drivers for repair and 9/10 the problem was with the sleeves or the springs in the sleeves binding up or wearing out due to excessive torque. It cost much more than $2 to fix them.
Thank you for sharing!
With that in mind I'm glad I use a non-impact dewalt screw guiding bit holder with middle torque setting on my dewalt impact driver. I also use standard hex bits. So far I've not had any issues. They haven't broke either for driving screws into wood. I think all this impact ready nonsense might do more harm than good. Your right too that I'd rather destroy the bit holder or the bit than to replace the impact driver. If you use a strong bit holder you can probably get away with lowering your torque. If your worried about too much torque created by an above average quality bit holder on the impact driver another viable option would be to get a mid range impact wrench like the 891 Dewalt makes and buy a 1/2 Anvil to 1/4 hex adaptor and use the lowest setting on that tool for impact which I believe is 100 foot lbs of torque. The adaptor apparently is rated for 167 foot lbs of torque I believe so it won't destroy the adaptor. Its overkill I know but if you need more torque without worrying about the stronger bit holder on an impact driver then put it on the wrench instead with the adaptor on lowest setting. Edit: with the adapter there is probably no need for a bit holder as it is a bit holder unless you wanted to attach a guiding sleeve bit holder on it. It will probably wobble a bit though.
As a contractor myself I’m calling B$ sorry. The hammer and anvil mechanism in a impact doesn’t work like that it’s not transferring torque back the way you’re suggesting. The hammer delivers the blow to the anvil cheap extension will strip and cam out damaging your Collett and potentially seizing it up or it will just snap. The torque is not transferred back into the impact like a drill for example that will almost break your wrist when it binds up that’s why that never happens on an impact. It’s not a consistent rotation of torque like a drill the torque comes in blows which is why you never have that transfer of energy back into the impact and ultimately your wrist.
I’m not sure how that would work on an impact driver. There’s a hammer and anvil with dogs on them and a spring pressing down. When theres a load the hammer will compress the spring jumping over the dogs to gain momentum before hitting the next set of dogs on the anvil.
Edit: I’m not sure what you mean by sleeves? As for the spring the most force it would ever experience even if you locked out the anvil would be the amount to compress it? Are you sure you aren’t talking about a drill with clutches?
Honestly makes a lot of sense, never would have thought about that on my own though. Thanks for helping me avoid making a potentially expensive DIY mistake
Definitely a fan of the chart at the end showing grades for all the tests and an accumulated, sometimes there's so much information (especially when testing lots of things) that it's hard to track without rewatching and rewinding a lot.
Thanks for the feedback.
Agree, the table at the end was a great summary.
Another great video! Thanks!
I was getting steered away from the Dewalt (locking) holder as many online reviews complained about the plastic retainer collar and the small internal spring. It was coming apart after limited use. However, this seems durable and perhaps those who experienced this were overly abusing the tool. I tend to be more careful. Anyway, I love the idea of having a mechanism that can hold both 1” standard bits and 2” plus length shank bits with groove. I also love the slim profile.
Think I’m going to get the 3” and 6” to use on my drill/impact (they are impact rated) as well as extensions on my Malco Connext1 quick change driver handle.
Btw - I also have the short Ryobi and it does work well. But, it only accepts 1” bits correctly like all mag holders.
I hate mine - tossed it in the bin.
I never thought about how a bit holder could reduce driving speed, thank you for the torough testing you do, it really helps us all be more aware buyers, especially with tools as they are many people's livelyhoods!
Thanks for the feedback.
(15:57 and 16:16) Calculating release force of the non-locking bits requires the magnetic pull (17:27) subtracted from the value when it comes to accidental release on a fastener. It's a small change and most of the strong ones are locking, but for the sake of accuracy the magnetic pull should be subtracted to get the correct numbers.
Great video either way!
Thanks for the constructive feedback
Would love to see LED bulbs and their longevity compared.
Thanks for the video idea.
LED bulbs can last a couple decades, so really the only thing he could test is short-term failure rates, as well as short-term brightness loss. In principle, he could start testing now, put out the first video a year from now, and do yearly updates.
If you do the LED bulbs - test them base up and base down - more heat on the electronics with the base on top.
One difference I have noticed in my 48" shop lights is the number of occurrences, duration and amplitude of "flicker". Some of the cheap fixtures are rock steady. But, my most expensive fixtures flicker randomly regardless of the temperature or how long they have been on. Very annoying when trying to concentrate on a project. Also, some of the lights are not equally bright along their length (i.e. brighter at one end). Great channel.
@@TrueThanny I'm imagining Jacob Ross, every light in his home burnt out, waiting for twenty years for the results of the testing. Every night, enveloped in darkness, he checks RUclips for The Video, and every night, he sighs in disappointment. "C'mon, Project Farm."
Great video as always! I'd really like to see a comparison of 3 jaw pullers, lost count of how many I've broken over the years (probably more my fault for overstressing them, of coarse). Would be nice to know what brand would survive my abuse lol
Thanks! Thanks for the video idea.
I don't think I've ever commented on your channel. I just wanted to applaud your well deserved success. I truly appreciate you going through the trouble of testing everything so thoroughly. I'm impressed with every video you post. Please keep it up!!
Thank you very much, will do!
I love your unbiased testing and reviews. I just recently found you and I subscribed. I would like to see your testing of digital multimeters and drain cleaner products like Drano versus Liquid Plumber.
Thanks!
Thanks! Thanks for watching and subscribing! Thanks for the suggestion.
@@ProjectFarm I found one you already had on drain cleaners. I'll be sure to check it out.
As always - thank you. I was confused by the results of the 5 dollar DeWalt, as I’ve beaten the heck out of mine for years with no issues. I went out to my workshop to look and they must have changed their design. Mine is a hex shaft, into a hex receiver. Again, thank you, because if I ever do wear this one out, I would have purchased another and been very disappointed.
Thank you for sharing!
I never thought you could get 42% difference in speed just due to but holder design, great video! Did you think it would vary this much before starting?
@@alext8828 but it did, 43% difference in time. Just like impact socket speed tests on the torque test channel
@@alext8828 inertia and momentum, the angular momentum of more mass = the faster the rotation
@@alext8828 He Uses Fresh batteries for Each Test .
I have done some of my own testing on locking 6"and 12" extensions, and I learned that the Irwin will use those 3 little "fingers" to grab onto a bit that has lost the ball detent portion. So essentially it grabs into a smooth 1/4" shank, which is perfect for using my Diablo Speedemons. I've broken at least 10 of them in my extensions and have to use a drill bit to pull the end out if the extension. But, after they break, using the Irwin allows me to keep using the bit with the same retention it had before! All other extensions allow the bit to fall out.
Thank you for sharing!
Thanks. I'll have a look at the Irwin ones here and see of they are the same. Some bit holders don't like the double ended bits.
What alot of people dont realize is is that a drill will drive screws faster than a impact will so if your ever using wood or deck screws use your drill and then you dont have to worry about the impact damaging the bit holder and make them last longer
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Can't we just say he never disappoints us with his content 👍
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His shop assistant is still saying yes!
I had no idea bit holders affected screw times so much, thank you for all you do man, what a great lesson learned! 👍
well he had to had different amounts of pressure surely a test that eliminates human error would of been better for speed of screw
How?
@@goofynoodle4775 What do you mean ' _How_ '... you ARE joking, right? 🙄
@@purdyboi8078 explain
Have you ever considered using a composite or plastic wood to eliminate variances in the density of the material you are driving the screws or bolts into? I think the wood density is a factor in the speed of driving screws. Great video!
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That's actually a really great idea. Especially from a standpoint of consistency...great suggestion!
17:43 Cousin Eddie and I are soulmates. I've never seen frustration manifested physically, that so perfectly matched mine. :)
lol Thanks for sharing.
One of Milwaukee’s absolute best bit holder is the absolute best and I cannot use any other after using that one. The outer part slides in and out to kind of help hold the screw in place and guide it. The only thing about that bit holder is that they don’t sell it individually. It comes with their 12 piece bit set (model 48-32-4507) which is $10. I’ve bought a couple of these sets just for the bit holder. lol.
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I've bought the from Bomgaars for about $7 just the bit holder.
@@championdger Really? The only individual bit holders I can ever find are the ones with the solid outer part that doesn’t slide in and out.
Look up Model#: 48-32-4508 for just the sleeved bit holder by Milwaukee. I know DeWalt has one as well, but that's more googling than what I'm committed to
Feel you there, have a DeWalt holder with a lockable UJ, could only buy it in a pretty much only torx selection box.
These have to be some of the best videos on RUclips. No bullshit, no bias, straight to the point, thorough testing. Just good, honest, useful and educational videos the likes of which RUclips was made for.
Thanks so much!
Great work again. Thanks for all your videos. Locking bits are great however, when using them to extend a drill bit the ones that release by pulling the collar toward the drill can accidentally release and leave your drill bit deep in your project. For bits that you want to extend working length I recommend the Bosch that has two locking set screws in the end of the shank. They tend to be the slimmest and also usually won’t release inside the work piece.
Great point! Thank you
Had an idea for tools.
A torpedo and/or a 4' level, durable, accuracy, etc. I've spent up to $40 on a 12", and $90 on a 48", and have seen them get banged around some and out of level. The vial assembly in an Empire True Blue box beam cams loose, gave near a ¼" off when just spinning the level. Stabila is looking the best, but prices can get up there fast.
Also maybe summertime tee shirts and boxer briefs. A lot of newer companies claiming they're the best. Dries faster, last longer, won't stretch out, etc.
Thanks again for the videos, I enjoy going back and watching them a few times.
You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
This was an interesting review since it included both locking and unlocking types, plus what I would consider extensions rather than bit holders (ex. Irwin). I'm guessing every trade uses these items differently so the designs seem to target one or another use and optimize the mechanism (magnet, locking, retaining ring etc) for the use they think their users will benefit from. Of the styles you tested, I mostly use the magnetic style for insert bits (similar to the Hilti) for driving screws. The story changes when it comes to extensions, where my go-to is the Irwin series. In that use, I need to get more length for drilling with either spade or auger bits that use 1/4 hex shanks and the design of the Irwin has far outperformed any other extension brand I've tried. My record was 12 feet (12x12-in extensions) to drill down through the bottom plate of a wall from the attic with up to three extensions being the more common configuration when drilling across ceilings through recessed light openings or horizontally through multiple studs during a rough-in. Most other locking bit holders/extensions come apart under these conditions, whereas the Irwin design doesn't typically fail until the flexing of the stacked bit holders breaks the shank of a bit holder (where the notch is for the locking ball). Granted, this is an extreme use scenario, so until the standard is changed for the length of shank gripped above the locking notch changes or someone makes an entire series of 5/16-in extensions, there probably won't be an improvement to performance.
Thank you for sharing!
A lot of bit sets come with holders that are different than the ones sold separately. Would be nice to see them tested as well to be able to better compare the ones we already own to these. Though I see how that would increase the cost significantly.
Very valuable work you do nonetheless.
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The #1 holder in this video is the DeWalt model DWA3HLDFT. It is my all-time favorite. With it, I can put in hundreds of deck screws at a time without the bit falling out.
Wow! I suggested this a while back, and there's a lot more to these bit holders than I would have thought. Having the right one for the job makes a big difference. Good to know even the cheap ones can take a lot of abuse. It would be interesting to see what the lag screw speed would be for a dedicated 7/16" bit driver without the extension.
Thank you for the video idea!
@@ProjectFarm Indeed, I just finished a project using concrete screws and stripped out several 5/16 drivers from various brands.
#2 Tomato Palace. $5 For 10 Bits is $0.50 Each.
I'm happy using those Bosch bit holders. But like there 1/4 extention bars a small amount of debris will jam the bit release.
%2.00 each. Sorry for the mistake.
I’m very surprised at the failure of the Dewalt in the first test. I’ve used one of that same model for years, even building my entire deck with it, and it’s still fine.
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That first Dewalt holder isn’t impact rated. They make one that looks the same with the slide out screw guide that is all black in color that is impact rated. Model DWAIRDG IR
Dewalt has sold so many varieties of bit holders over the years. My nearby DeWalt factory service center used to have discontinued tools and accessories. Among these was a bit holder with a rention ring that absolutely refused to let go of any bit without a vise grip clamped on it
China made dewalts = trash.
Taiwan made dewalt (or other non-china) = much better.
Old dewalts weren't china made. Hence why they lasted forever.(pretty much like everything else)
The biggest issue I have with bit holders is the bit becoming stuck in the holder. I think you would have had to install more screws to run into that, but would've been nice to know which ones were suspectable to that and which ones weren't. thanks for sharing another great video ☺️
Yeah...a cheap insert bit will stick in some of these until you beat on them with a hammer or use a vise and vice grips to pull them apart.....BTDT
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my personal solution to this is only using long bits, and dont fiddle with bitholders. Also very practical when you encounter recessed Screws, where bitholders are usually to thick to reach the screw.
@@unitrader403 That's a really good idea. I have a few but could use some more. Thanks
@@ssnerd583 Or maybe even using a vice w/vise grips
A test on Tar removers ( for cars for example) would be awesome :)
They normally work with glue too, so 2 tests in one 💪
Thank you for the video idea!
WD-40 works well on tar removal and won't damage paint.
@@REDBIRD-95 Yeah But I wanted a standardised test :) could be a cool video.
I’ve noticed that when working outside, the dust entering into the bit holder is the nastiest thing. I purchased Wera holders which are 14.60 euro each. They have been working just fine as Wera tools usually do.
Thanks for sharing.
I think a safety rating (sleeve over screw being driven) and also an ease of use (no need to pick up my screws 10 times as it falls without the sleeve) would have been a nice addition. Great work! I've had a bit driven through my finger for not having a sleeve, Id prioritize this over any of the other features any day :)
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your supposed to look at what your screwing. never, stik your fingi,,where you wouldnt stik your dinki.. ave, boltr.. watch him..
Maybe you should not work with power tools. How do you even manage putting a bit through your finger
I can confirm from experience that those Makita Gold bit holders work very well if the magnetic screw-holding is a priority. They are a little finicky to install bits, but I just bought five of them and keep them pre-loaded with some of the most commonly used drivers. The short Wiha driver bits make a nice combination here, as they are slow to wear out and have a very accurate fit to the fasteners. In my case it's not about pre-loading screws, but rather to avoid dropping screws when I remove them from furnace cabinets / service panels / etc. These things have saved me lots of aggravation, I used to drop screws all the time! A side note, It is unexpected to see the DeWalt long-sleeve bit holder fail so spectacularly. They must have changed something, I have a couple of those (at least, similar looking) bought many years ago and they are still perfectly useable.
Thanks for sharing.
I just bought the little Wera, and I love it. It's tiny, and the one handed bit swap works great. I was put off by how much it cost, but now I see it was not a bad choice at all.
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Excellent video as always. You've done torque wrenches and adjustable wrenches, but I'd love to see a video on standard combination/ratcheting wrenches. I'm curious on which set would be the best to buy and last long term.
Thanks! Thanks for the video idea.
I definitely like the extendable sleeve for driving long screws, but the locking mechanism is essential when using quick change drill bits.
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Those extending sleeve ones are a bit pointless as long screws usually have large heads and any screws with more than a 3.5 gauge head make the sleeve inoperable.
@@ChristianFrench1 3" deck screws fit inside the sleeve. You probably thought I meant longer.
great video but i wish you tested some of the ones Harbor freight sells like the warrior bauer and hercules as many of the brands you show are not available at my local stores. shocked to see how poorly the dewalt ones held up. thats my goto brand usually
Thanks for the suggestion.
@@ProjectFarm iv had my dewalt driver for 2 years still works use it atleast 2 times a weak
I mean those stupid sleeves ones are rubbish in my opinion no matter what brand, however the dewalt locking bit holder is fucking killer and i knew it would crush his testing I’ve had the some for over 2 years and i work full time construction that bit holder is really good and its only nine bucks safe to say its paid for itself a hundred times
That DeWalt bit holder is for wood screws and sheet rock
You just have to pay attention with Dewalt, he mentioned this bit was made in China. Dewalt has tools made in many countries, you want to find the ones that have a stamp "Made in the USA" or just research what you're looking for, make sure you know where it's made before buying it and you'll be better off. It's one of the big reasons why there's such a big debate on whether Dewalt is great or sucks, cause the answer is both, depending on where it is made. Don't buy China tools, they aren't built to last. "Most DeWalt tools are assembled in Mexico, China, Taiwan from components manufactured in Mexico, China, Taiwan, the Czech Republic , Brazil, Korea, Japan, Thailand, and the USA."
Glad to see Wera and Wiha more often in these tests. Definitely worth spending a little more for these tools in most cases. Thank you!
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It's just a shame the Wera isn't their impact rated holder... I was hoping to see the Wera Impaktor TriTorsiom bitholder tested :/
$5 for ten bits is $0.50 per bit not $2 per bit
i love you
You do a wonderful job comparing the various products, as a carpenter I'm happy to have found your channel, thank you! I have a couple video suggestions; the first being to compare claw hammers (durability and ergonomics) and the second, 3x360 laser levels. Thanks again and keep up the great work!
Thanks, will do! Thanks for the video ideas.
I have the Irwin bit holder and I love it. I mostly use it for small hex screws on RC cars (M2-M4) so the durability isnt really a concern for me. I also love the design of the locking/release mechanism. It immediately pushes out the old bit when you slide the collar, and a new bit can be inserted without moving the collar at all. This makes the whole bit swapping process very fast, which helps me a lot since I often switch bits after every other screw or so.
Thanks for sharing.
What does the timing to drill in a screw have to do with the bit holder? I get it but many people do not. An explanation of why you’re timing and why some bit holders are faster than others would be beneficial. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for the suggestion.
I am curious as well!
Friction or slippage?
As you 'get it' can you pls explain it too us?
@@aussiehardwood6196 He can't because he doesn't. But it's about shaft flexing.
Just an FYI, bought the Norske based on your test and ( I am a a contractor) after one week of daily use the magnet cracked inside of the holder and a chunk fell out, hasn't completely failed, but we will see.
Thanks for sharing.
I've now had two different DeWalt locking bit holders and BOTH have broken. The usage is minimal and it seems like the same defect is in the little spring loaded lock release on the bottom. Always seems to break and fall down. Still a great channel and love the testing, just wish you had gotten my bits instead haha.
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I had a 12" Irwin bit extension with locking fall apart on me after using it a couple of times. A spring fell off the bit holder. My Milwaukee 6" is still good and am happy with it. I hate the screw guards, they fall apart pretty easily.
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The horsedy performed real well thanks for the video
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After long Studies and Testing I have found I use what found that I use what I have in my un organized Tool box! 😊
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You are the best and most honest channel to test tools.
Thanks!
A common fault in the manufacturing (doesn't matter the brand) is the 100mm or larger bit holders (not the ball detent ones) are never actually straight with the shaft they're pressed onto. Your bit will spin more like an oval than a circle and it only gets more and more exaggerated with use. This can also happen with perfectly straight ones eventually bending from extended use
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Great video and as a true hobbyist I do use Ryobi so pleased with their result. Thanks
Bob
England
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Great video! For me it's good to have many options. I end up dealing with lots of odd screws that are partially stripped so many times having that sleeve allows me to push as hard as possible to get the screw back in. Other times i need magnetism to hold on while i reach. I wish there was a strongly magnetized bit holder that also had a sleeve!
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