BILLY HUTCHINSON | A LOYALIST LIFE - Hunted By British Army, UVF TEEN YEARS & Long Kesh

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  • Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024

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  • @thegoodlistenerpodcast
    @thegoodlistenerpodcast  7 месяцев назад +3

    **TIMESTAMPS**
    00:00 Growing up in the Shankill area pre-troubles
    9:32 The terms “Loyalist” and “Unionist”
    11:17 Earliest memory of sectarianism
    16:52 The troubles kicking off
    27:42 FURNITURE SHOP B*MB IN HIS AREA
    36:47 Did they feel like The British govt care about them?
    40:12 PARAMILITARY ACTIVITY AS A TEEN
    52:42 LIFTED BY BRITISH ARMY & tortured
    57:52 Did Billy’s parents know about his involvement ?
    59:17 M*RDERS THAT SENT BILLY TO PRISON
    1:02:07 “I justify everything I did in the troubles, to STAY SANE I have to”
    1:07:52 Collusion with security forces ???
    1:13:52 CATCHING AN INFORMER WITHIN UVF
    1:17:25 Did UVF have their own “nutting squad” like the IRA?
    1:18:57 Ten Years in LONG KESH
    1:34:52 DEATH THREATS &
    1:37:17 Does N.I work as a state now?
    1:39:07 Thoughts on Irish reunification

  • @MR-mc6rj
    @MR-mc6rj 7 месяцев назад +32

    The great irony of Loyalists is that the Crown & British Establishment they were loyal to, had nothing but contempt for them.

    • @caitlinmurphy2386
      @caitlinmurphy2386 7 месяцев назад

      3rd class Brits

    • @MARTYC76
      @MARTYC76 7 месяцев назад +12

      100% correct! We are all just Paddy's to them.

    • @mufc99ok
      @mufc99ok 6 месяцев назад +3

      Exactly they couldn't see

    • @CoffeeCartel666
      @CoffeeCartel666 4 месяца назад

      The irony of the actual British and now the Irish is their left politicians are selling them into a Muslim owned shit hole, many many areas of England and now Ireland will be run by lunatics

    • @albertarthurparsnips5141
      @albertarthurparsnips5141 4 месяца назад

      And do republicans suppose that the neo-gombeen monetarist lickspittles in Dublin, wholly enraptured with the drumbeat of Brussels, the pressure to strip the land of whatever is left of its public assets, have nothing but an even more visceral disdain for nationalist northerners ? The late Connor Cruise O’Brien was a perfect encapsulation of the Southern establishment’s detestation of what they almost universally regarded as a cringe-worthy reminder of a leprechaun - like primitivism.

  • @tomlyons6482
    @tomlyons6482 7 месяцев назад +11

    As a republican I would obviously tend to disagree with Billys viewpoint concerning the north of Ireland but that being said the man spoke with honesty and conviction therefore I would respect the man! Great interview and great questions asked by the Interviewer. This is a topnotch podcast!

    • @jackietreehorn5561
      @jackietreehorn5561 6 месяцев назад +1

      As a republican myself one thing I remember about him when the loyalist feuds going on he despised the drug dealers and gangsters..... although would say in his youth would have greased a nationalist...think he has came a long way tho now

    • @markyinbelfastxx9088
      @markyinbelfastxx9088 5 месяцев назад +7

      As a protestant I have nothing but contempt for him
      Murdering of 2 innocent catholics without remorse ? Shamefull
      Not one loyalist killing was done in our name

  • @balor7
    @balor7 4 месяца назад +8

    They fear persecution but never had a problem persecuting.

  • @TomMcNeil-wo9ji
    @TomMcNeil-wo9ji 2 месяца назад +4

    Ireland North and South has bigger issues today. We the working class Protestant and Catholic need to unite and get ready for the new fight that's inevitable.

    • @yabelli-eq2vv
      @yabelli-eq2vv 2 месяца назад

      Mate, immigration is turning your country into another shithole

    • @Reverands420
      @Reverands420 Месяц назад

      Mate, Ireland is putting UNEDUCATED, hopeless Algerian, Nigerian losers AHEAD of poor Irish people.... Seriously wake up men of Ireland

    • @BOATSkeepcoming
      @BOATSkeepcoming 14 дней назад

      Yes, difficult times and dark are approaching fast from 3rd world.

  • @jamesbutler5908
    @jamesbutler5908 4 месяца назад +4

    An area full of poverty and full of u educated. WHAT A SHAME WORKERS KILLING WORKERS, BIN MEN, TAXI DRIVERS, BUS DRIVERS, LIVING IN POVERTY AND DEPRIVATION, WHO EVER IS RESPONSIBLE HAS A LOT TO ANSWER TO THEIR COMMUNITIES......

  • @Sean-sn9ld
    @Sean-sn9ld 3 месяца назад +3

    The Irish-British identity is something people used to be proud of,
    The men who died for Ulster in the Somme seen themselves as Irish.
    Its sad that this has been repressed because of the conflict , but also nice to see that more people are openly identifying this way again.
    (Im Irish nationalist, just have respect for my fellow Irish people of different persuasions)

  • @damien1351
    @damien1351 7 месяцев назад +10

    David irvine was the leader. Billy is a street corner boy.

  • @MikaelFlyer
    @MikaelFlyer 3 месяца назад +3

    The good people of Belfast of all sides didn’t deserve the troubles.

  • @amacaindreasa
    @amacaindreasa 3 месяца назад +5

    Why are Shankill Loyalists never asked about the Shankill bucters?

    • @chanratt
      @chanratt 3 дня назад

      It’s either because he has been told not to ask about them or he doesn’t know anything about them 😂

  • @williem1710
    @williem1710 3 месяца назад +2

    Working class unionists aka loyalists couldn’t make the ballot box work for them. Whereas working class nationalists aka Sinn Fein made a great success of the ballot box.
    This led directly to the demise of unionism.

  • @jamesoneill2933
    @jamesoneill2933 7 месяцев назад +9

    "The brits" the irony.

    • @ariaacheson201
      @ariaacheson201 7 месяцев назад +5

      This remark of yours shows how naive you are towards "the troubles. "

  • @GJ1607.
    @GJ1607. 6 месяцев назад +3

    His ignorance of the South is laughable, and it's hard to take him seriously as if people dont live in poverty in the north. The south is far richer than the north.
    Also its a scare tactic to think there would be reprisals on the pul community ffs.
    And the guy interviewing him gave him no pushback at all such a soft interview.
    I am genuinely interested in what Billy and others from his community have to say, but cmon, you have to push back on some of the stuff he says and id expect it from the other side to

    • @billbo2117
      @billbo2117 4 месяца назад +1

      They are all living in the lap of luxury down south of course ,just not enough houses 😂
      ------------ ☻️

  • @Ifeeltheneedforspeed1
    @Ifeeltheneedforspeed1 7 месяцев назад +9

    Consider these facts: Billy Hutchinson murdered two Catholics on their way to work in a sectarian attack in 1974, spent 15 years in jail, consistently backed the peace process, became the leader of the Progressive Unionist Party, chose a Catholic writer and a Kildare publisher for his memoir, would accept a vote for Irish unity - and still justifies his murders.

    • @Ifeeltheneedforspeed1
      @Ifeeltheneedforspeed1 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@ORyan11 100% indeed.

    • @biddyearly9262
      @biddyearly9262 7 месяцев назад

      In fairness to him the IRA did sectarian murders. It was tit for that.

    • @TheCrackentone
      @TheCrackentone 6 месяцев назад

      He said the PUP produced a document aimed at catholics, that they were better off in the Union. Then the UVF went out and slaughtered innocent catholics.

    • @jackietreehorn5561
      @jackietreehorn5561 6 месяцев назад

      Like billy wright, murdered countless catholics and his sisters married southern Irish men, although he didn't embrace the peace process

    • @PatrickLawrence-rn1tv
      @PatrickLawrence-rn1tv Месяц назад +2

      killing poor innocent people

  • @jamesoneill2933
    @jamesoneill2933 8 месяцев назад +3

    It rubs the lotion on it's skin , or else it gets the hose again.

  • @neilfinlay5017
    @neilfinlay5017 7 месяцев назад +11

    Some bitter people on this just listen to his story different stories on both sides

    • @Sarah-Arlow
      @Sarah-Arlow 7 месяцев назад +5

      Exactly!

    • @eoinmurray2421
      @eoinmurray2421 7 месяцев назад +3

      Nonsense

    • @Ifeeltheneedforspeed1
      @Ifeeltheneedforspeed1 7 месяцев назад +1

      He murdered two innocent people. There crime was to be a roman Catholic.

    • @TheNinyo77
      @TheNinyo77 7 месяцев назад +1

      The only bitter ones here ,are the ones condoning his whitewashed version " British people where attacked " WHERE ,WHEN ??? The first people murdered here were murdered by unionist and state sectarian police force , BEFORE there was an IRA ffs , billy talking shite again .

    • @marv2396
      @marv2396 7 месяцев назад +1

      Hes scum . End of conversation.

  • @jamesoneill2933
    @jamesoneill2933 7 месяцев назад +10

    "Me and Pat". and "The brits" as with Gay dog Adair, both always striving to be viewed as equivalent to PIRA , even using republican parlance.

    • @GeoCe-ew9dk
      @GeoCe-ew9dk 7 месяцев назад +1

      Even though the brought the ira to there knees

    • @jamesoneill2933
      @jamesoneill2933 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@GeoCe-ew9dk That's Adair you've seen on his knees.

    • @jackietreehorn5561
      @jackietreehorn5561 6 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@jamesoneill2933couldn't tell if he was on his knees or standing up he was that small lol

    • @jamesoneill2933
      @jamesoneill2933 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@jackietreehorn5561👍 Your dudeness.

    • @jackietreehorn5561
      @jackietreehorn5561 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@jamesoneill2933 the dude abides

  • @clp91009
    @clp91009 7 месяцев назад +1

    It’s interesting to hear the description of his treatment by the army and RUC when he was arrested. Clearly it wasn’t just republicans who were brutalised by the security forces, loyalists were mistreated also.

    • @dennishbergkamp
      @dennishbergkamp 12 дней назад

      They have to say that though, don't they? To say anything else would confirm that the police and army were in league with loyalists and there was state wide persecution of Catholics. It wouldn't fit their narrative that they are the ones who are besieged.

    • @chanratt
      @chanratt 3 дня назад

      Yeah that’s an education for me too

  • @liamg1706
    @liamg1706 4 месяца назад +4

    Hunted by the british army lol colluding with them more like.

    • @dennishbergkamp
      @dennishbergkamp 12 дней назад +1

      The UDR was riven with members of the UVF. The RUC was described as an almost paramilitary organisation by high profile members of the police in London.

  • @cannibalholocaust3015
    @cannibalholocaust3015 4 месяца назад

    The fear of persecution is weak sauce and really desperate argument in a sense of any other.

  • @freemindthinkerezrapound5071
    @freemindthinkerezrapound5071 6 месяцев назад +3

    The suggestion of a United Ireland is the greatest carrot joke ever as the brits own six counties and Brussels own the other twenty six and the Irish are mere tenants on a land that they don't own

    •  Месяц назад +1

      How does Brüssels, the capital of Belgium, own Ireland?

    • @chanratt
      @chanratt 3 дня назад

      He means the EU

  • @SuperDonegal1
    @SuperDonegal1 3 месяца назад +1

    Drugs

  • @jamesoneill2933
    @jamesoneill2933 7 месяцев назад +7

    Billy prays each night that there is no God.

    • @graemem111
      @graemem111 7 месяцев назад +1

      😬

    • @billbo2117
      @billbo2117 4 месяца назад +1

      The same way the bombers and gunmen that maimed and killed so many innocent souls will do the same.

    • @billbo2117
      @billbo2117 3 месяца назад +1

      There's a hell of a lot more than him praying for that!

    • @billbarry8301
      @billbarry8301 2 месяца назад

      😊😊

  • @anneliamohara2842
    @anneliamohara2842 7 месяцев назад +2

    Is Billy a Leeds Fan ? see the mug on the shelf behind him .

    • @tenderhooligan7580
      @tenderhooligan7580 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, apparently goes to matches regularly. MOT

    • @MR-mc6rj
      @MR-mc6rj 7 месяцев назад

      Yes he is and that's a worse crime than being a Loyalist Terrorist. Even the team he supports are thugs.

    • @markdavidson9743
      @markdavidson9743 5 месяцев назад

      Can't see mug properly

  • @Puffball-ll1ly
    @Puffball-ll1ly 3 месяца назад

    Interesting the difference in accents.

  • @jamesoneill2933
    @jamesoneill2933 7 месяцев назад

    "Definitely his eyes" ? Well it's either him or Richard Ramirez. Sorry Richard.

  • @graemem111
    @graemem111 7 месяцев назад +2

    So much irony, it beggars belief.

  • @glenhaggan8456
    @glenhaggan8456 7 месяцев назад +1

    Must have the cold

    • @jamesoneill2933
      @jamesoneill2933 7 месяцев назад +3

      Syphlitic induced psychopathy would be my guess and a coke habit.

  • @jamesoneill2933
    @jamesoneill2933 7 месяцев назад +5

    A unionist is a loyalist wearing a tie.

    • @jamesoneill2933
      @jamesoneill2933 7 месяцев назад

      @@ariaacheson201 KMS

    • @jamesoneill2933
      @jamesoneill2933 7 месяцев назад

      @@ariaacheson201 Are you still enjoying your Von Windsor framework?

    • @jamesoneill2933
      @jamesoneill2933 7 месяцев назад

      @@ariaacheson201 📘A little something for you , don't say we never give you anything.

    • @jamesoneill2933
      @jamesoneill2933 7 месяцев назад

      @@ariaacheson201 Reivers go home.

    • @jamesoneill2933
      @jamesoneill2933 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@ariaacheson201 Britain come and take your rubbish back.

  • @RobBarr-qj8bi
    @RobBarr-qj8bi 7 месяцев назад +2

    He is of was a brilliant councillor

  • @Hambo-ub6mo
    @Hambo-ub6mo 7 месяцев назад +4

    Maybe get some fixadent for them knashers ffs, watching this through my fingers,pure cringe

    • @mrsmithsgoogleaccountt4345
      @mrsmithsgoogleaccountt4345 7 месяцев назад +4

      he is in remission for cancer of the mouth/throat area.
      the teeth are a result of reconstruction surgery.

  • @yabelli-eq2vv
    @yabelli-eq2vv 2 месяца назад

    Is billy straight?

  • @rutherglenbluebell5
    @rutherglenbluebell5 7 месяцев назад +1

    Ulster is still British so loyalism is alive and well

    • @biddyearly9262
      @biddyearly9262 7 месяцев назад +6

      A bit of paper doesn't make it British. Ulster is Irish, always has been always will be. Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan are as Irish as Antrim.

    • @rutherglenbluebell5
      @rutherglenbluebell5 7 месяцев назад

      9 counties-3 that got sold away by England …6 counties left under. BRitish rule…Northern Ireland is the most loyal part of Britain 🇬🇧 @@biddyearly9262

    • @IrishSon
      @IrishSon 6 месяцев назад +3

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@rutherglenbluebell5three got sold away by England?
      Obviously don’t know your own history.
      Unionists didn’t want Cavan, Donegal or Monaghan because if they were partitioned then this would have resulted in a Catholic majority. Some hardline Unionists also didn’t want to partition Tyrone and Fermanagh also because of the number of Catholics in those counties.
      Northern Ireland is the most loyal part of Britain? Geography not your strong point either?
      Northern Ireland is not part of Britain. Northern Ireland is in the United Kingdom, not Britain.
      You really are not a great advertisement for the British educational system.

    • @rutherglenbluebell5
      @rutherglenbluebell5 6 месяцев назад

      3 got sneakily sold away to appease the enemies of Ulster @@IrishSon

  • @Reverands420
    @Reverands420 2 месяца назад +1

    I can't believe billy could be capable of murder😢😢..
    Are you Catholic bro?

  • @anthonymcgills7037
    @anthonymcgills7037 2 месяца назад

    bulsh
    talking crap,,

  • @eoinmurray2421
    @eoinmurray2421 7 месяцев назад +5

    Never heard so much self delusional self important nonsense jackanory comes to mind

    • @RobBarr-qj8bi
      @RobBarr-qj8bi 7 месяцев назад

      Check out the one he did with ra but then

    • @RobBarr-qj8bi
      @RobBarr-qj8bi 7 месяцев назад

      Check out the one he did with ra but then

    • @RobBarr-qj8bi
      @RobBarr-qj8bi 7 месяцев назад

      Check out the one he did with ra but then

  • @jamesoneill2933
    @jamesoneill2933 8 месяцев назад

    🎼Goodbye horses🎵🎶

    • @chanratt
      @chanratt 3 дня назад

      Why does everyone keep making gay/silence of the lambs jokes

  • @henrymoreland8719
    @henrymoreland8719 3 месяца назад

    Billy is a decent man.

  • @eoinmurray2421
    @eoinmurray2421 7 месяцев назад +6

    All these times being stopped and harassed by your mates Billy how much information did you give them?and more importantly how much did they give you after your cosy chats over tea and biscuits after fake arrests , your talking out of your arse

    • @eoinmurray2421
      @eoinmurray2421 7 месяцев назад +3

      I was an apprentice in the early eighties 1980 to 84 and it didn't matter where you worked h&w ballylumford ps and other places , it was all decked out in loyalist, unionist , uda, uvf flags etc that's the workplace the cabins we had our breaks in were worse , very intimidating for a young catholic, but what I did notice and understand was it wasn't for the likes of me it was ment for, but for the average protestant working man to keep them in line

  • @markdowney1366
    @markdowney1366 5 месяцев назад +1

    Billy the bullshitter I’ve heard some fairytales ffs people who usually come on tell the truth I don’t think he knows the meaning of the word