**TIMESTAMPS** 00:00 Growing up in the Shankill area pre-troubles 9:32 The terms “Loyalist” and “Unionist” 11:17 Earliest memory of sectarianism 16:52 The troubles kicking off 27:42 FURNITURE SHOP B*MB IN HIS AREA 36:47 Did they feel like The British govt care about them? 40:12 PARAMILITARY ACTIVITY AS A TEEN 52:42 LIFTED BY BRITISH ARMY & tortured 57:52 Did Billy’s parents know about his involvement ? 59:17 M*RDERS THAT SENT BILLY TO PRISON 1:02:07 “I justify everything I did in the troubles, to STAY SANE I have to” 1:07:52 Collusion with security forces ??? 1:13:52 CATCHING AN INFORMER WITHIN UVF 1:17:25 Did UVF have their own “nutting squad” like the IRA? 1:18:57 Ten Years in LONG KESH 1:34:52 DEATH THREATS & 1:37:17 Does N.I work as a state now? 1:39:07 Thoughts on Irish reunification
The irony of the actual British and now the Irish is their left politicians are selling them into a Muslim owned shit hole, many many areas of England and now Ireland will be run by lunatics
And do republicans suppose that the neo-gombeen monetarist lickspittles in Dublin, wholly enraptured with the drumbeat of Brussels, the pressure to strip the land of whatever is left of its public assets, have nothing but an even more visceral disdain for nationalist northerners ? The late Connor Cruise O’Brien was a perfect encapsulation of the Southern establishment’s detestation of what they almost universally regarded as a cringe-worthy reminder of a leprechaun - like primitivism.
As a republican I would obviously tend to disagree with Billys viewpoint concerning the north of Ireland but that being said the man spoke with honesty and conviction therefore I would respect the man! Great interview and great questions asked by the Interviewer. This is a topnotch podcast!
As a republican myself one thing I remember about him when the loyalist feuds going on he despised the drug dealers and gangsters..... although would say in his youth would have greased a nationalist...think he has came a long way tho now
As a protestant I have nothing but contempt for him Murdering of 2 innocent catholics without remorse ? Shamefull Not one loyalist killing was done in our name
Ireland North and South has bigger issues today. We the working class Protestant and Catholic need to unite and get ready for the new fight that's inevitable.
An area full of poverty and full of u educated. WHAT A SHAME WORKERS KILLING WORKERS, BIN MEN, TAXI DRIVERS, BUS DRIVERS, LIVING IN POVERTY AND DEPRIVATION, WHO EVER IS RESPONSIBLE HAS A LOT TO ANSWER TO THEIR COMMUNITIES......
The Irish-British identity is something people used to be proud of, The men who died for Ulster in the Somme seen themselves as Irish. Its sad that this has been repressed because of the conflict , but also nice to see that more people are openly identifying this way again. (Im Irish nationalist, just have respect for my fellow Irish people of different persuasions)
Working class unionists aka loyalists couldn’t make the ballot box work for them. Whereas working class nationalists aka Sinn Fein made a great success of the ballot box. This led directly to the demise of unionism.
His ignorance of the South is laughable, and it's hard to take him seriously as if people dont live in poverty in the north. The south is far richer than the north. Also its a scare tactic to think there would be reprisals on the pul community ffs. And the guy interviewing him gave him no pushback at all such a soft interview. I am genuinely interested in what Billy and others from his community have to say, but cmon, you have to push back on some of the stuff he says and id expect it from the other side to
Consider these facts: Billy Hutchinson murdered two Catholics on their way to work in a sectarian attack in 1974, spent 15 years in jail, consistently backed the peace process, became the leader of the Progressive Unionist Party, chose a Catholic writer and a Kildare publisher for his memoir, would accept a vote for Irish unity - and still justifies his murders.
He said the PUP produced a document aimed at catholics, that they were better off in the Union. Then the UVF went out and slaughtered innocent catholics.
The only bitter ones here ,are the ones condoning his whitewashed version " British people where attacked " WHERE ,WHEN ??? The first people murdered here were murdered by unionist and state sectarian police force , BEFORE there was an IRA ffs , billy talking shite again .
It’s interesting to hear the description of his treatment by the army and RUC when he was arrested. Clearly it wasn’t just republicans who were brutalised by the security forces, loyalists were mistreated also.
They have to say that though, don't they? To say anything else would confirm that the police and army were in league with loyalists and there was state wide persecution of Catholics. It wouldn't fit their narrative that they are the ones who are besieged.
The UDR was riven with members of the UVF. The RUC was described as an almost paramilitary organisation by high profile members of the police in London.
The suggestion of a United Ireland is the greatest carrot joke ever as the brits own six counties and Brussels own the other twenty six and the Irish are mere tenants on a land that they don't own
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How does Brüssels, the capital of Belgium, own Ireland?
@@rutherglenbluebell5three got sold away by England? Obviously don’t know your own history. Unionists didn’t want Cavan, Donegal or Monaghan because if they were partitioned then this would have resulted in a Catholic majority. Some hardline Unionists also didn’t want to partition Tyrone and Fermanagh also because of the number of Catholics in those counties. Northern Ireland is the most loyal part of Britain? Geography not your strong point either? Northern Ireland is not part of Britain. Northern Ireland is in the United Kingdom, not Britain. You really are not a great advertisement for the British educational system.
All these times being stopped and harassed by your mates Billy how much information did you give them?and more importantly how much did they give you after your cosy chats over tea and biscuits after fake arrests , your talking out of your arse
I was an apprentice in the early eighties 1980 to 84 and it didn't matter where you worked h&w ballylumford ps and other places , it was all decked out in loyalist, unionist , uda, uvf flags etc that's the workplace the cabins we had our breaks in were worse , very intimidating for a young catholic, but what I did notice and understand was it wasn't for the likes of me it was ment for, but for the average protestant working man to keep them in line
**TIMESTAMPS**
00:00 Growing up in the Shankill area pre-troubles
9:32 The terms “Loyalist” and “Unionist”
11:17 Earliest memory of sectarianism
16:52 The troubles kicking off
27:42 FURNITURE SHOP B*MB IN HIS AREA
36:47 Did they feel like The British govt care about them?
40:12 PARAMILITARY ACTIVITY AS A TEEN
52:42 LIFTED BY BRITISH ARMY & tortured
57:52 Did Billy’s parents know about his involvement ?
59:17 M*RDERS THAT SENT BILLY TO PRISON
1:02:07 “I justify everything I did in the troubles, to STAY SANE I have to”
1:07:52 Collusion with security forces ???
1:13:52 CATCHING AN INFORMER WITHIN UVF
1:17:25 Did UVF have their own “nutting squad” like the IRA?
1:18:57 Ten Years in LONG KESH
1:34:52 DEATH THREATS &
1:37:17 Does N.I work as a state now?
1:39:07 Thoughts on Irish reunification
The great irony of Loyalists is that the Crown & British Establishment they were loyal to, had nothing but contempt for them.
3rd class Brits
100% correct! We are all just Paddy's to them.
Exactly they couldn't see
The irony of the actual British and now the Irish is their left politicians are selling them into a Muslim owned shit hole, many many areas of England and now Ireland will be run by lunatics
And do republicans suppose that the neo-gombeen monetarist lickspittles in Dublin, wholly enraptured with the drumbeat of Brussels, the pressure to strip the land of whatever is left of its public assets, have nothing but an even more visceral disdain for nationalist northerners ? The late Connor Cruise O’Brien was a perfect encapsulation of the Southern establishment’s detestation of what they almost universally regarded as a cringe-worthy reminder of a leprechaun - like primitivism.
As a republican I would obviously tend to disagree with Billys viewpoint concerning the north of Ireland but that being said the man spoke with honesty and conviction therefore I would respect the man! Great interview and great questions asked by the Interviewer. This is a topnotch podcast!
As a republican myself one thing I remember about him when the loyalist feuds going on he despised the drug dealers and gangsters..... although would say in his youth would have greased a nationalist...think he has came a long way tho now
As a protestant I have nothing but contempt for him
Murdering of 2 innocent catholics without remorse ? Shamefull
Not one loyalist killing was done in our name
They fear persecution but never had a problem persecuting.
Ireland North and South has bigger issues today. We the working class Protestant and Catholic need to unite and get ready for the new fight that's inevitable.
Mate, immigration is turning your country into another shithole
Mate, Ireland is putting UNEDUCATED, hopeless Algerian, Nigerian losers AHEAD of poor Irish people.... Seriously wake up men of Ireland
Yes, difficult times and dark are approaching fast from 3rd world.
An area full of poverty and full of u educated. WHAT A SHAME WORKERS KILLING WORKERS, BIN MEN, TAXI DRIVERS, BUS DRIVERS, LIVING IN POVERTY AND DEPRIVATION, WHO EVER IS RESPONSIBLE HAS A LOT TO ANSWER TO THEIR COMMUNITIES......
The Irish-British identity is something people used to be proud of,
The men who died for Ulster in the Somme seen themselves as Irish.
Its sad that this has been repressed because of the conflict , but also nice to see that more people are openly identifying this way again.
(Im Irish nationalist, just have respect for my fellow Irish people of different persuasions)
David irvine was the leader. Billy is a street corner boy.
The good people of Belfast of all sides didn’t deserve the troubles.
Why are Shankill Loyalists never asked about the Shankill bucters?
It’s either because he has been told not to ask about them or he doesn’t know anything about them 😂
Working class unionists aka loyalists couldn’t make the ballot box work for them. Whereas working class nationalists aka Sinn Fein made a great success of the ballot box.
This led directly to the demise of unionism.
"The brits" the irony.
This remark of yours shows how naive you are towards "the troubles. "
His ignorance of the South is laughable, and it's hard to take him seriously as if people dont live in poverty in the north. The south is far richer than the north.
Also its a scare tactic to think there would be reprisals on the pul community ffs.
And the guy interviewing him gave him no pushback at all such a soft interview.
I am genuinely interested in what Billy and others from his community have to say, but cmon, you have to push back on some of the stuff he says and id expect it from the other side to
They are all living in the lap of luxury down south of course ,just not enough houses 😂
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Consider these facts: Billy Hutchinson murdered two Catholics on their way to work in a sectarian attack in 1974, spent 15 years in jail, consistently backed the peace process, became the leader of the Progressive Unionist Party, chose a Catholic writer and a Kildare publisher for his memoir, would accept a vote for Irish unity - and still justifies his murders.
@@ORyan11 100% indeed.
In fairness to him the IRA did sectarian murders. It was tit for that.
He said the PUP produced a document aimed at catholics, that they were better off in the Union. Then the UVF went out and slaughtered innocent catholics.
Like billy wright, murdered countless catholics and his sisters married southern Irish men, although he didn't embrace the peace process
killing poor innocent people
It rubs the lotion on it's skin , or else it gets the hose again.
Some bitter people on this just listen to his story different stories on both sides
Exactly!
Nonsense
He murdered two innocent people. There crime was to be a roman Catholic.
The only bitter ones here ,are the ones condoning his whitewashed version " British people where attacked " WHERE ,WHEN ??? The first people murdered here were murdered by unionist and state sectarian police force , BEFORE there was an IRA ffs , billy talking shite again .
Hes scum . End of conversation.
"Me and Pat". and "The brits" as with Gay dog Adair, both always striving to be viewed as equivalent to PIRA , even using republican parlance.
Even though the brought the ira to there knees
@@GeoCe-ew9dk That's Adair you've seen on his knees.
@@jamesoneill2933couldn't tell if he was on his knees or standing up he was that small lol
@@jackietreehorn5561👍 Your dudeness.
@@jamesoneill2933 the dude abides
It’s interesting to hear the description of his treatment by the army and RUC when he was arrested. Clearly it wasn’t just republicans who were brutalised by the security forces, loyalists were mistreated also.
They have to say that though, don't they? To say anything else would confirm that the police and army were in league with loyalists and there was state wide persecution of Catholics. It wouldn't fit their narrative that they are the ones who are besieged.
Yeah that’s an education for me too
Hunted by the british army lol colluding with them more like.
The UDR was riven with members of the UVF. The RUC was described as an almost paramilitary organisation by high profile members of the police in London.
The fear of persecution is weak sauce and really desperate argument in a sense of any other.
The suggestion of a United Ireland is the greatest carrot joke ever as the brits own six counties and Brussels own the other twenty six and the Irish are mere tenants on a land that they don't own
How does Brüssels, the capital of Belgium, own Ireland?
He means the EU
Drugs
Billy prays each night that there is no God.
😬
The same way the bombers and gunmen that maimed and killed so many innocent souls will do the same.
There's a hell of a lot more than him praying for that!
😊😊
Is Billy a Leeds Fan ? see the mug on the shelf behind him .
Yes, apparently goes to matches regularly. MOT
Yes he is and that's a worse crime than being a Loyalist Terrorist. Even the team he supports are thugs.
Can't see mug properly
Interesting the difference in accents.
"Definitely his eyes" ? Well it's either him or Richard Ramirez. Sorry Richard.
So much irony, it beggars belief.
Must have the cold
Syphlitic induced psychopathy would be my guess and a coke habit.
A unionist is a loyalist wearing a tie.
@@ariaacheson201 KMS
@@ariaacheson201 Are you still enjoying your Von Windsor framework?
@@ariaacheson201 📘A little something for you , don't say we never give you anything.
@@ariaacheson201 Reivers go home.
@@ariaacheson201 Britain come and take your rubbish back.
He is of was a brilliant councillor
Maybe get some fixadent for them knashers ffs, watching this through my fingers,pure cringe
he is in remission for cancer of the mouth/throat area.
the teeth are a result of reconstruction surgery.
Is billy straight?
Ulster is still British so loyalism is alive and well
A bit of paper doesn't make it British. Ulster is Irish, always has been always will be. Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan are as Irish as Antrim.
9 counties-3 that got sold away by England …6 counties left under. BRitish rule…Northern Ireland is the most loyal part of Britain 🇬🇧 @@biddyearly9262
@@rutherglenbluebell5three got sold away by England?
Obviously don’t know your own history.
Unionists didn’t want Cavan, Donegal or Monaghan because if they were partitioned then this would have resulted in a Catholic majority. Some hardline Unionists also didn’t want to partition Tyrone and Fermanagh also because of the number of Catholics in those counties.
Northern Ireland is the most loyal part of Britain? Geography not your strong point either?
Northern Ireland is not part of Britain. Northern Ireland is in the United Kingdom, not Britain.
You really are not a great advertisement for the British educational system.
3 got sneakily sold away to appease the enemies of Ulster @@IrishSon
I can't believe billy could be capable of murder😢😢..
Are you Catholic bro?
bulsh
talking crap,,
Never heard so much self delusional self important nonsense jackanory comes to mind
Check out the one he did with ra but then
Check out the one he did with ra but then
Check out the one he did with ra but then
🎼Goodbye horses🎵🎶
Why does everyone keep making gay/silence of the lambs jokes
Billy is a decent man.
All these times being stopped and harassed by your mates Billy how much information did you give them?and more importantly how much did they give you after your cosy chats over tea and biscuits after fake arrests , your talking out of your arse
I was an apprentice in the early eighties 1980 to 84 and it didn't matter where you worked h&w ballylumford ps and other places , it was all decked out in loyalist, unionist , uda, uvf flags etc that's the workplace the cabins we had our breaks in were worse , very intimidating for a young catholic, but what I did notice and understand was it wasn't for the likes of me it was ment for, but for the average protestant working man to keep them in line
Billy the bullshitter I’ve heard some fairytales ffs people who usually come on tell the truth I don’t think he knows the meaning of the word