Hearing a middle aged man talk about checking an 8 and 4 year old for a hymen is one of the most disgusting and disturbing things I’ve EVER heard. These people don’t deserve freedom, prison or even life.
@@TomboyGirlfriend Common for religious men? Are you kidding me? Only Cultists like that of the Hindu, islamists and the Mormons act like this. Outside of those cults it's incredibly rare to put that kind of attention on it, ESPECIALLY IN YOUNG CHILDREN LIKE YOU SUGGEST.
The man saying "I'm not sworn, I'll dangle his ass out of a helicopter to make him talk" was so damn based. God, it was gut-wrenching hearing the girls telling them what had happened and saying how cold and hungry they were.
No it doesn't. The girls were freezing yet not one of those officers thought to take off his jacket and wrap it around the girls. How many times did the officer ask the girls if they were hungry? The first time he asked them if they were hungry another officer should have been sent to get food with that info being conveyed to the girls. Asking 2 or 3 more times?! The little girl who didn't want to come out of the barrel, a) the officer was the adult, kids don't always do what is best for themelves and b) the first priority is the overall physical well being of these girls.. She should have been immediately picked up and taken to warmth. Wrap that rug thing around her or the officer's jacket, anything. just get her to warmth. Listening to these cop talking to these little girls they were clearly not completely comfortable interacting with kids and they're probably all fathers. There is a YT video of cops raiding a motel room where a man who had kidnapped a 7 yr girl was holed up with the child. The man kept her naked. A cop immediately picked her up to get her away from that situation with and a 2nd cop, maybe 10 seconds later, asked "can we get her a blanket or a towel" and covered her. They were both male cops and they not only were their priorities right, the way they were so comfortable talking to her, these are men who interact with their own kids all the time.
There’s always someone that can’t help but find a negative in such a horrible situation. SAVE YOUR NEGATIVITY FOR THE FATHER N GRANDPARENTS OF THESE CHILDREN NOT THE POLICE OFFICERS WHO THANK GOD RESCUED THE CHILDREN N ARE PROBABLY IN A STATE OF SHOCK THAT ANYONE WOULD DO SUCH A THING TO THEIR OWN CHILDREN BECAUSE THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE HUMAN.
The dude who said he’d dangle him out of a helicopter to get answers is my new hero straight up said I’ll go to jail to get these answers. All these officers and people who helped the investigation, like the man who called in the tip, are heroes.
Its time the public takes note in the culture of UTAH with all these kids used as social, entrapment, & religious PAWNS! Ruby_Franke- Jodi_Hild- Lori_Vallow- Chad_Daybell- Alex_Cox- Megahn_Huntsman- Josh_Powell too many !
When he said “how can she be pregnant she’s only 8.” That gave me chills. Instantly felt sick. What a foul foul individual. He doesn’t deny the act, he just says it’s not possible because of her age…
What the heck are people commenting here are you guys supporting a pedophile? Also scientifically things that aren't said like that but implied are definitely telling and what Police use sometimes to form a hunch before doing further investigation. No it's not 100% but given the situation why are you guys defending this monster... Westlake people in these comments sections are apparently pedophile supporters what the heck
The lack of *serious* charges for the grandparents is outrageous. The children were obviously neglected. And the fact that the girls were all in dresses even in the freezing cold is very disturbing…
@@addyperez7397even the mums mum. She willingly let her underage daughter dally off with a predator like it was any normal Tuesday . All people involved are disturbed.
Exactly!!! The lack of empathy when told they were left out in freezing conditions for 24 hours or the fact that it was clearly obvious their granddaughters were being abused, these people are callous af
Sam is worried about the conditions that CPS provide for children, yet he has his and John's children in barels and an abandoned trailer, severely dehydrated and starving (after abusing them). The irony!
“How could she be pregnant, she’s only 8.” Not “How could she be pregnant, I would never touch her in that way she is a child.” That’s ALL you need to hear to know exactly what they did to those children.
Sadly there have been cases of precocious puberty and quite young children impregnated by evil people. How extremely disgusting this whole situation is.
The amount a 4 year old girl would have to go through to reply 'can't they just kill him?' after hearing her fathers going to prison. That was so heartbreaking. I hope these children go on to have bright futures. ❤
"Where are the other 2 girls?" "Should I say or do I need a lawyer?" ....DOES THE LAWYER KNOW WHERE THE KIDS ARE? Some people are so stupid. Incriminating yourself no longer matters you already admitted to leaving 2 little girls in the wild, in 50 gallon drums, with a loaded rifle, in the freezing cold. I hope those kids are able to feel like kids in their lives, or even just people. This is horrible and I hope both the fathers get the pain they deserve over the next 2 and a half decades in prison.
The gun threw me off, like if you need a kid to have a gun to protect themselves then they shouldn’t be out there, then again they would leave them abandoned for them to find their way back to “camp”
@@Megasauruus Yeah protect themselves from what? YOU? WTF? It makes absolutely no sense and the kids don't know any better. This was such a sad thing to watch I am just glad that some kind of justice was found for these girls... clearly not enough
I can't be the only one outraged the grandparents didn't get prison sentences! They knew exactly what was going on & did NOTHING to protect those children. It's going to be a long long road of recovery for these kids & I pray they make it.
Satanic to say the least, these little ones are mentally destroyed, not to mention there inner parts, vomit, hears stand up, I'll, no faith in humanity, this is beyond psychotic
I know from having dated a woman who, after we were well involved, told me the horrors of her treatment by her step-father, these girls will survive but will never be ok. It will affect them their entire lives. No punishment is too harsh for these evil adults.
To all those not paying attention to what they hear, it was THE HELICOPTER PILOT NOT (A COP)who said he'd like to DANGLE (NOT THROW) the creep out of the helicopter until he said where he'd put the girls. I fully agree with this wonderful man.
Liberal or conservative, it would be sad to say this man said something wrong. But watch an internet pussy will reply with some condescending bullshit because they got some shit to hide. Props to you!!!
@@krookiemonster2673exactly!! saying he’s not sworn in so he swore no oath to follow the same rules/beliefs so he could definitely do more to get the info out of that sicko!
@@emclovin6962even then though the cops couldn’t let him do it as the defense could say the police allowed him to be tortured and then say that his clients rights were violated and potentially get the charges dropped. I can’t imagine how officers deal with this situations where they want to do something to keep these kids safe but know that doing anything outside the law would derail the investigation
Listening to this mom hyperventilate about her young daughter being married to a full grown man is so heartbreaking. She was also manipulated as a young girl too. I really really feel for her. I hope her, her children, and the other two girls are able to eventually find some peace.
I just sobbed when they found the two girls in those barrels..& thier mother, gut wrenching. She probably became to old to interest the monster. God have mercy😩
@ginnycleary-zq2pu also, the 2 little boys, they were left far from their camp and had to follow their footprints to fond their way back. They were also instructed not to have anything to do with their sisters and the other 2 girls. Who knows what else they had to endure 😢.
She did nothing to prevent it.She claims she stayed for financial reasons.She did not follow up and did not fight for custody or even harrass CPS to check on their well being.Pretending to be shocked at his CULT behavior,doesnt fly.
The grandparents are sickening. They knew that the whole “marriage” with literal children was wrong, but they just let it slide because they didn’t wanna believe their son was a pedophile. And they also allowed John and Micah to be together when she was 16 and he was an adult, so they hadn’t ever done anything to stop his behavior
they don't get this way in one generation. and this imbecilic moronic blind brainwashed devotion to 'family no matter what they've done' needs to be altered. family is the strongest unit, but only when they are healthy. however, evil NEEDS to be exposed and shunned. and parents are NOT doing anyone a favor by shielding their spawn and ilk.
The officers that worked so hard not only to find these kids but to comfort them and distract them while they waited for medical help deserve so much credit. Those girls must've been so cold and terrified and I'm sure every little thing made a difference.
Absolutely! I couldn’t agree more. This is just so sad, crazy, and 100% F*CKED all around. Does anyone know what happened with Sam’s two girls? Also, I think I missed some key information about everyone’s relation to one another. I was listening while cleaning. But, was the mother married to BOTH MEN? John first at 16, then Sam later in life? And all 6 children are hers? That part confused me, and I know I definitely missed some key background information.
took the four year old ages to come out of barrel and 1st she didnt want to come out because she didnt have any pants. No water or food or toilet all night terrified
@@lindsaymiller1406 Sam's two girls were the ones the officers found right after catching him iirc! For the other confusing bits, Mica met John at age 16 and married him when she was 19, Sam is John's friend and not married to her (I think so at least, there was a lot of information to take in all at once in this video) Edit: Correction, just got to the part after the barrels and the 4 year old girl was John's youngest daughter whilst the 7 year old girl was Sam's oldest. John's oldest daughter and Sam's youngest were the ones found later!
The fact that the grandfather didnt know what Sam and John considered the age of consent to be before having sex with their daughters and then assumed it would be when they hit puberty (BEFORE 18) is absolutely sickening.
The fact that the CHILD asked if they could just kill the father really shows just how much it affected them. I really really hope they get better mentally and I hope they lead long, successful lives and they can put this all behind them.
@@tinglelingaling6 Time heals all wounds, they say. Whether the amount of time needed to heal exists in our lifetime... that's debatable, and questionable. For me, it's been 32 years and I haven't recovered yet.
I am a rape & dv survivor. I was only 5 when my nightmare started. My uncle groomed, raped, sold, & brainwashed me. I was put through & witnessed horrific things. Hearing the babygirl say “I have no pants on!” Broke me 😭. If a human being can do this to children they shouldn’t be walking among us PERIOD!! P3D0S WILL NEVER CHANGE! I am so thankful I broke free at 11 years old. I still have trauma & will continue to heal until the day I pass away.
I’m so sorry you were put through that trauma! My heart breaks for you and any other child who is abused this way. I admire your strength. I pray for you to have peace and happiness for the rest of your days… 🙏🏻🙏🏻
I am truly so sorry to you and all the innocent victims of these types of sick and evil people. My heart ache for you, and I know I don’t know you but it truly hurts my heart to hear that anyone has to go through any of this. Life these days is so difficult even for people without this type of trauma and so I hate to think about normal everyday issues being added to those who have already suffered so much ❤️🩹Sending you and all victims virtual hugs and prayers that you are okay, and safe
😢 you're so strong and brave to share that I'm so grateful you found freedom I pray that you continue to grow as a person in this world knowing that what happened to you doesn't define you nor did it break you u are so blessed be sure to thank God for having him hand on you then and now
You aren’t just a survivor… you are a warrior! I’m so sorry you had to go thru such trauma but I’m so proud that you have fought and I hope and wish you find true happiness and love in your life. ❤❤❤
The “worst thing” to the grandfather was that his credit was ruined? Not that his grandkids were neglected and sexually abused? Can’t believe those old scumbags weren’t charged with more.
As someone who lived in a church about 50% as bad, I can 100% guarantee you that guy has fiddled kids as well. It's what they ussually make an initiation to make certain the guard-characters who enforce the cult leader's will won't ever go to the outside world (since they know they're getting decades in prison if the cult breaks)
You’re right about him starting the cycle and having no problem having access to kids off the grid lmao he isn’t as innocent and naive as he’s making it out to be
"I'm hungry, but I'm not starving, but I am hungry." Hurts my heart in ways it's never hurt before. Poor little babies deserved to be loved, protected, and cherished. Not abused, hurt, and betrayed.
Especially with the rate of reoffense and the damage it does. This is not something that has been proven to respond to therapy intervention like a person with a DWI 3x who needs to get help for alcoholism. This is entirely different.
@@lisaanndavis3289 Unfortunately not often enough. Many prisons have secure wings or cells for them because otherwise yea they get stomped out on the regular.
Through out my research of these kinds of of cases I always see pattern. The victim isnt dead. The system doesn't care unless the life was taken. Even if it's a child. It's sickening, honestly.
it's because the powers that be are also pedophiles. 20 thousand kids go missing in the US alone every year. Thats far too many to just be these circumstantial occurrences. there is a legit market for kids. It's disgusting and i hope it all gets uncovered soon.
Hearing the little girl talk after she emerges from a discarded barrel felt like a gut punch. The innocence among the horror took my breath away. Thankfully all these children have been rescued, and I hope they fully recover from this.
The little one saying I'm hungry, but I'm not starving....hurt me to the soul. Poor little ones. (Mom of four, and a fairly young grandma...No one who says they're hungry goes that way for long).
They will never fully recover. Time will lessen the impact but the horror will still be in their memories, ready to reappear when they are under stress.
The empathy & care those police officers showed those babies was heart warming to hear. They truly cared. It must be so difficult to remain professional to the monsters they capture.
My best friends sister is in child protection within the police. I've seen her go through 3 marriages and it doesn't phase her. She's married to her job. The ONLY times I witnessed her truly happy were leaving court seeing an abuser get justice. I love her so much.
terrible job. More, "We are the police, we help people. The lady police will be here soon, they are driving here fast! Let me get that, DONT TOUCH IT, let me get that gun out of the barrel. Who put that in there? Drink more water. We're gonna get you in the truck where its warms so we can call your mamas!!! I'm gonna reach in and take that gun. John and Sam are gone, they are not gonna be here for a long time. We will not let them near you, but you are safe. Food is coming, real soon, do you want Pizza or McDonalds?"
and 9 times out of ten it's because of irresponsible owners letting their dogs around kids. humans who make the decision to harm a child get more leniency than a ransom dog who doesn't know better.
It's GENERATIONAL SIN that's passed down from fathers to sons. These men are absolutely disgusting and EVIL. The Grandparents sound very complicit in the abuse of the children. The whole family is EVIL 😈 💀
While you would want them to, they were brainwashed and they were going with the cult leader because they believed in the cause and as they said didn't do anything wrong. As an outside looking in of course we know it's truly wrong but they can also plead reason of insanity or delusion. This really only qualifies in cases such as this where the Grandparents themselves didn't do anything and were providing all the finances and were being mislead by John and Sam. It is very rare to get this, but the grandparents clearly as the interrogations went on saw how brainwashed they were. That is how clever Cult leaders and those with anti social disorders really are.
These individuals were likely raised to think children were sexual beings, therefore don’t realize how gross it truly is. It happens often and always has.
Yes but everyone is warmly dressed and the girls have short sleeves and I'm here screaming at them to undress and just give them their coats. Instead they open the door to let the cold air in and ask about water multiple times after being let known the kids are first and foremost cold.
@@braria9855 to be fair to them, they were trying to coax the children out so they could be put in the cop cars where there is heating. I see your point, but the cops were doing their damnedest to comfort the girls and get them to all the things they needed to be safe.
@@Isaiah024 I understand that, but you can tell when people are 'just doing their job' as opposed to actually caring about people they come into contact with.
god, i’m so thankful that that police officer was so soft and sweet with the poor girls. he was so gentle and careful with them, you could tell that they weren’t scared of him.
@@RicheeBethis is one of the very few times in my life that I'm gonna defend a cop, he was still looking for two other children and wanted nothing more than for all four of them to be safe, the amount of adrenaline has to have been on another planet.
@@RicheeBethe priority at the time was locating the girls, it wasn't meant to be abrupt or rude. knowing the context, I fully understand why he was in a rush and needed to be listened too.
@@RicheeBeyes because it’s time sensitive. He needs to get them the hell out and find the others. He did a great job while probably freaking TF out inside. He can hardly talk he’s so out of breath. The police did the best job and were incredible with them.
@@GingerCC-he8beShe was mentally with it enough to realise isolating them from other children & not ensuring they were homeschooled properly was detrimental to their well being. Also, he was 21 when they met & he groomed her from age 15. That's going to impact your emotional maturity & mental health. 15 is a CHILD.
@@sarahholland2600 there is no excuse for not protecting your children from this evil. These girls are not getting help now. She has proven that she is so damaged she cannot be a mother.
The cases on child abuse are always the hardest to watch/listen to. I had to pause the video halfway through because I began crying. It is beyond horrific that anyone could do this to a child.
The 4 year old said, " can they just kill him?" in regards to her father. She and the other 5 children suffered horribly. It is terrible that there are people who can be so cruel to children.
The child was worried about what might happen to her father after hearing he was going to jail. You might think that these children ought to hate the fathers but that is not how it works. Note how when taken in initially the one child says she just wants to see her father. It is not unusual for an abused child to keep quiet about abuse to protect someone that they actually still care about deeply.
I'm a grown man, I spent 5 years active duty as an infantryman in the US ARMY, when I heard, "Sam's gone." In that poor babies voice and my heart lurched nearly bringing tears to my eyes. Those poor babies, the thought of my son enduring something so awful makes me run red and it's incomprehensible to me. How can you do something like that, they've never done anything wrong. The strength of these officers to not fucking bludgeon that bastard to the point his eyeballs fall from the socket is nothing short of Saint like.
As a father to a baby girl this was really sickening and rage inducing to watch and hear. I literally got so mad that my hand curled up into a fist when Sam said he would check the hymen on these little girls including his own!!! These “adults” don’t deserve to even see the light of day. Hope they get what they deserve in prison and I wish the best for those girls.
The officers showed amazing restraint. I can't imagine talking to the only person that knows where the girls were that didn't want to say anything to save their lives.
Their just as bad in my opinion. Kids count on adults to protect them and when they don’t , there trust in humanity that it takes a long time sometimes a life time before they’re able to trust again . They were in barrels Wow how a father could put harms way and act like nothing.
The restraint these officers showed was astounding! Astounding! They’re armed, I would not be able to control myself. I hope with every fibre of my body that these 6 children get the help they need to make sense of what has happened to them and that none of it was their fault. The psychological damage can last a life time and I wish I didn’t know that from experience. I also don’t think the grandparents were punished enough and I hope these 3 predators get real prison justice. They deserve no mercy.
The grandfather saying he doesn't think the kids were sexually abused and then going on to say that John and Sam were waiting for them to reach legal age to marry them.... So fucking disgusting. He absolutely knew.
Not to mention he said he figured they would consumate the marriage around puberty. So basically 12 or 13 in his mind would be OK. The grandparents should have been given at least 10 years at a minimum.
Thank you so very much for the responsible disclaimer of "although they took beliefs from these religions, they were not a part of nor accepted by them".
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He’s worried about cps but has them in sub freezing temperatures, starving and dehydrated in abandoned containers?!?! What a very sick and deranged individual, all of them!
@@latenightbreakdowns2107No, it absolutely is. Every religious psychopath and abuse cases comes out of your state. Mostly all of America but Utah seems the worst.
@@Stevie-oy8zj I’m not from Utah. Based purely on child abuse cases Utah isn’t even in the top ten. Based on cult leaders or cults in general, California, Nevada, and New Mexico have the highest rates of that. Horrible people are everywhere. It’s not from one state.
"I didn't see anything wrong" said the grandmother. How can you accept that your own adult son says that he will marry somebody else's daughter when she turns 18? This whole family is so twisted.
Right, every time she said she didn't see anything inappropriate after she just said the girls were calling themselves their WIVES I was like wtf are you talking about? You just said a 7 year old is saying she is the WIFE of your adult son... what is wrong with these people?
"I'm not starving, but I am hungry" These poor girls... 😞 it's absolutely sickening what happened to all of them. Their childhood ruined, forever. It's disgusting.
Dude, hearing those little babies talking about what happened to them utterly broke me. I can not understand how a grown adult can hurt a child. As a victim of CSA, it pains me to know the challenges these kids are gonna face just because of the selfish actions of an adult.
Apparently, you're unaware of the enormous child trafficking ring your species has. The real question is, how in the world could a species be so messed up, that not only is pedophilia and overall abuse to their children a common occurrence, but that they've apparently made a business out of it. [shakes head]
@user-nq2oz8tf2l You can be aware of something without understanding it. The OP said they were themselves a victim of CSA, it's not like they are in denial.
I am one of the Coltharp’s grandkids and I just stumbled across this video. I haven’t seen my uncle in almost a decade but I see my grandparents every few months and they’ve talked about this situation before. I don’t condone my uncle’s actions at all and I think both him and Sam deserve to rot in that cell, but I’m honestly kind of surprised by the comments about my grandparents. They did do nothing to stop John, but there was more going on than they described in the video. I’m not sure if I’m getting the details of this story right, but there was one time my grandpa said that one time John took him and my grandpa out to a hill and held them there for hours at gunpoint, threatening to shoot if they moved, because my grandpa suggested that they would call the police. John did horrible things to them just as he did to the kids and they pretty much couldn’t stop him or else they would be murdered. So the comments saying that they willingly did it are upsetting to me. Also the comment in the video about him distracting himself from the topic because he’s leaning to the side bothered me. My grandpa has horrible hips and a horrible back and he’s had many surgeries. When he’s sitting he’s constantly leaning and moving like he was in the video. It’s just how he sits. I already knew about most of the stuff in this video so it wasn’t too surprising, but it was just interesting to see the actual interrogations and such, as someone related to this awful person. This event affected everyone in the family and I actually saw Micah and my cousins right after it happened several years ago (before she shunned our side of the family). Back then I was younger and didn’t really understand the situation much but now I realize how wide the scope was. Its very depressing and outraging that someone in my family is such a horrible person. The closest I’ve gotten to seeing my wretched uncle in the last few years has been driving past the Gunnison Supermax Prison every time I go to visit my family in Spring City. I hope I never actually see his face though. man this is a really long comment but I just thought I should share my perspective and also the perspective that my family has had after hearing about more than this video shows from our grandparents themselves. Its been a wild decade.
Cold, senseless monsters. Who hears two children were trapped in a barrel for 24 hours and just goes, “okay” 1:16:30 Everyone in this family is cold, and senseless. More scared for themselves, than the children who were being extremely abused.
He didn't turn out, psychopaths are born. They actually show the signs of victims of psychopathic coercion. Of course they are responsible as adults tho, and I think their sentences are shait
I was raped at the age of 7 for almost 5 years. I hope this words reach those beautiful girls & it gives them the strength it gave me. “TODAY I LEARNED THAT EVERY CELL IN OUR ENTIRE BODY IS REPLACED EVERY SEVEN YEARS. HOW LOVELY IT IS TO KNOW ONE DAY I WILL HAVE A BODY YOU WILL HAVE NEVER TOUCHED “
Nobody has ever "deserved" children. Children are always made for someones pleasure or out of egoism. And people who think they're capable of having children are 100% not.
@@fartcannon-wg5olyou're not wrong but there's also more than those two motivations for having kids. Humans are far too complex to limit them to two reasons. 😅 I mean just look at colts in general a lot of people in polygamous cults believe it is their godly duty to bring children into this world... Are they brainwashed yes is their motivation good also yes... And that's something I can think of on a large.. individuals are even more complex than that in their reasoning.
Yeah "free money" certainly helped these monsters make excuses for wavering on their own heinous and idiotic set of beliefs -Of course that's how it usually works for people of exceptionally poor conviction.
I understand what you’re saying but CPS is a terrible organization. Children they’ve taken into custody to “help” have gone missing. Trafficking is big business these days. Gives the do dirties more money than running drugs or guns. No one should trust CPS and they should be put out of business.
His efforts to keep that from happening were really bad, but he's not entirely wrong for thinking that's what would happen. Obviously not an excuse, but even if child services had gotten involved ever... there's only a 50/50 chance that a satisfactory outcome would have taken place.
i was a single child in a single mom household. she had severe mental illness and beat me daily. i still would cry for her and want her as a child. stock hold syndrome at its finest. i’d often get scrutinized as a child for wanting her, and it made the abuse seem invisible
Trusted is not really the right word. It's indoctrination. There step of mental processing necessary to decide whether you trust someone or not, does not exist.
The grandparents are sick. The men are sick. Hope they were thrown in prison for their lives. Sam’s discussion about the hymens makes me so angry. Horrific. Just disgusting. Hope the kids get lots of help.
She kept repeating "he doesn't want you to look at me without my pants on" even though she was fully dressed showed how much programming she was subjected to.
I don’t believe the grandparents didn’t know what was happening with those girls at all. The whole reason they followed their son to that compound is because they believed that the end of times were near, but then John and Sam have 10+ years to wait until those children were “of age”. Make it make sense
@@Lilith6.6 Victims tend to be Abuser themselves growing up, so of course the grandparents are responsible for their Son. They abused him before and they turned out this way
@@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad I don't understand what the point of your post is. You seem to agree with what I am saying yet phrasing it like it's an argument. Please explain so I do not respond in a disproportionate manner.
When she said “can they just kill him” it really showed me how much they did to these children! Even heavily abused children still want their parents. We see it all the time in nursing. They forgive. They want the love and affection when given in the right way. They long for a stable, healthy relationship. They keep hoping things will get better. These 2 hurt these kids really bad and saying “ can you just kill him”, really shows how much they hurt them!
100% , I come from a severely abusive father. 15 years I spent with him doing horrid things to me. Not even as a kid did I want him dead. As an adult I've had to forgive MYSELF. For still loving him and wishing he would love and care for me as a daughter. The level of abuse they went through makes me so so sick. It takes a lot to wish death especially for a kid and dear god do I wish they would've dropped him out of the helicopter. Let him live that fear and terror for what little time would've been left.
Indeed! People in abuse even severe abuse get used to it & often switch blame from their abuser to themselves! The abuse is their normal & they don't know anything else. They just know it doesn't feel good! Takes a good bit of therapy to help them find a healthy normal to feel comfortable in!
At the end of the video. She isnt on the video saying it, but the narrator is talking about how the kids were doing a few months afterwards. @mossbride
Props to the detective interviewing Sam and keeping him talking for so long and de-escalating Sam after he'd bring up the possibility of talking to his lawyer so he'd continue to leak out bits of information subconsciously👏
Check what happened to the Turpin children, unfortunately we as a species have a long way to go to help children even once taken from abusers they can offen be abused by "Foster parents" & again neglected by the system 😢 it's so sad.
yeah, they urgently needed to get them out and into the cars but didn’t want to frighten them any further. it must have been really difficult to stay so calm!
It brings tears to my eyes to watch those two responding officers rescuing those poor girls from the barrels. You can hear in their voices how they are in full paternal protection mode, trying to bring some semblance of comfort and assurance and security for them. A rare glimpse into the actions of two police officers who are inherently good and compassionate people.
It's only rare to see because hate sells papers, so on the news the only things you see or hear about are the few bad apples that taint every profession.
You know what? You guys should only be able to find a story like this maybe once every 10 years. The fact that you finds stories like this almost weekly, makes me want to just burn the planet.
It's extremely disappointing that the grandparents essentially got away with their part in this. They were the only people there who could have protected those kids, and they simply chose not to. Ice-cold.
The mother could have as well.She was completely aware of his cult beliefs and behavior.She never even asked for well check ups on these kids.She claimed that she stayed for financial reasons.I dont buy her SHOCK for one second.
It's a wonder that 'Mr. Roe' got out of his encounter with these perps alive - despite his apparent sympathy with their proclivities - once he had shown that he wasn't going to be an accomplice. It's also surprising that any competing males were left living in this cult-community, as these monsters seemed prepared to sacrifice anyone who opposed these perps, or obstructed them, or represented any competition for their sexual abuse.
The hate I feel for John, Sam, and the grandparents equally, is overwhelming. As a mother of 6yr old and 5 year old little girls......the little girl voice coming out of that barrel took the breath right out of my body. I have watched almost every EWU video but the ones about kids hurt me to my core.
@Beabuzz123 bullshit! Those grandparents should be thrown under the jail with the rest of them! ZERO CONCERN displayed! Absolutely SICKENING behavior at best!
Hearing the little girl explaining that she’s “not starving but shes hungry” breaks my heart. That tells me that they where starved. Makes me so mad to know that two adults treated kids this way! This makes me grieve for them
When I was a kid I was never starved, but I was also not allowed to say "I'm starving" as an exaggeration, I'd be told it was insensitive to kids in the world who didn't have access to food. So I didn't think right away that meant she was starved sometimes.
Looking to belong & they think safety in numbers. These type of personalities are extremely manipulative. They give them, then take, then give a little more and take again. The cycle repeats. It rattles the brain.
As a mother, if I found that her own father had looked at her vagina to see if her hymen were intact, I’m not sure hat he’d be breathing long enough to be arrested, let alone prosecuted. This is all so disgusting, everyone involved, including the grandparents who allowed this, need to be jailed for a very very long time. These men are infuriating, truly.
John's beliefs stem from his upbringing, the fact they are so nonchalant tells me they support these beliefs. Not just that, bur if I heard a child was betrothed to an adult that would make me lose my shit.....the way they talked about being a father figure until marriage without an ounce of disgust was really weird.
I think one of the most shocking parts about this case is the stupidity and neglect of the grandparents. What do you mean you were ok with two middle-aged men MARRYING BABIES because they weren't going to "consumate the marriage". The fact that they sat by and let these events unfold is absolutley disgusting, and the lack of charges on them is even more so. I would argue they are just as despicable as the men themselves for not protecting their grandbabies. My heart goes out to those poor girls and the brave officers who rescued them.
Even someone ( & they know they are dangerous) talking about marrying a kid will raise redflags much less 2 friends shopping daughters for marriage. The grandparents could have saved those girls but they chose not to.
That detective was an absolute superhero tbh. He was incredible at getting Sam onside, sidestepping all the lawyer remarks, and getting him to feel relaxed enough to confess to absolutely shocking actions. You just know he wanted to kill that excuse of a man with every word out of his mouth, but he held it together and got a confession.
Yeah, I've watched a lot of these kind of videos and they have the psychology tactics down to an art. I don't know how they can override emotions and come across as friendly and understanding in such a convincing way as to cause the perp to spill their guts, but man can they do it! I've seen the guys who can't do it well too and they don't get anywhere. It is such a crucial skill and no doubt super hard to do.
Yeah at one point he’s slowly rocking back and forth… you know the willpower this man is exerting to restrain his dislike and desire to rip this guy apart is crazy.
"Do you understand the severity of the temperatures to the children?" "Ya I could be held for manslaughter" doesnt even concern himself with the fact that they could've died, Sam only cares about what happens to himself 🤦♂️
Crazy how Sam was soo concerned that CPS would hurt the girls in some way that he’d rather them sent directly to their mothers… but hid them alone in barrels overnight in the freezing dessert while he fled the scene?????
If he kills them, they ain't going to CPS. So, mission accomplished? They know what they've been doing is terrible, would be giving them too much credit to say otherwise. Similar to the "grandparents", they knew things are messed up, they chose to close their eyes and roll with it. All of them can pretend as much as they want, that gut feeling inside that what they are doing is not right, was always there. Can clearly see it in the interrogations.
Those grandparents are absolutely ridiculous. How can you genuinely believe that your son would wait till those girls were of consenting age when the mother of his children was a minor when they met? Outrageous
It's not only about them waiting until those little girls were 18 it should have been the fact that her son and his "friend" had llned up their future brides at such young ages and were going to cut them off from everything and everyone so they would be completely dependent and under the control of these men and simply not know of any other way. And the grandparents were ok with that.
Well of course! They are the proud parents of a prophet and religious leader! Why would they do anything to stop that!! I'm sure they saw themselves as Mary and Joseph or some other bullcrap. They're absolutely equally culpable.
I'm 1 hour in and have to say that his parents was absolutely crazy too. Your son is calling a child "His wife" and you don't see nothing is wrong 🤦🏻♀️
Those elderly parents should’ve gotten the same sentences. That’s BS they didn’t know what was going on. 48 hours in a holding cell and 2 weeks of house arrest isn’t shit. They are as sick as their son.
She also said I’m not starving but I am hungry. Which is telling. She understands suffering in a way most kids don’t. It’s usually starving or not hungry. Because kids don’t know what starving is they just say they’re starving if they get fed a little later than expected but these kids most likely know real starvation
I recognized that too. It might also be , in part, that these kids were told they weren't starving, only hungry. And learned to minimize their own discomfort out of fear. But I'm leaning the same direction you were.
Things like this are what made me teach my niece and nephew the difference between hungry vs starving. They were visibly shaken after being shown some example photos lol.
43:00 My heart literally broke. These officers are trying so hard to try and cheer these children up and make sure that they are fed, given water and tried to even take their minds off all of the chaos and horrible things the children have been going through. HUGE Respect for all of the officers!
yea but its kinda ridiculous that the cops are out there all day with the kids in the truck and sometime after dark they're still telling the kids "were working on getting you some food" doesn't seem they were working very hard
@@kathrynkimbrough4244 possibly yes but the children were found and put in the truck during daylight hours. Not a big deal just saying feeding those girls didn't appear to be a big priority.
@@maiamystia Amazing the explanations people are willing to conjure up for these officers. Im not trying to be too hard on them because I know wearing the badge requires a high level of incompetence . It just seems to me that if they had done any kind of search the first time they were there or treated it like a black teenager who's car they were tearing apart trying to find a blunt roach the kids would have been found days ago. However giving them the benefit of the doubt, Im not sure I have ever seen a LEO actually be helpful in a bad situation so expecting them to either call one of the other officers sitting at the donut shop to come through or God forbid removing these poor children from the scene and getting them into town where the cops always manage to find food when they're hungry is way beyond the reasoning capabilities of the uniformed cartel members. If someone needed shot or their neck kneeled on they have the training for that, just no knowledge of how to produce a slim Jim or pack of crackers from a gas station. I see your point.
@sandygoldstrike6451 you just want a reason to hate on the police. What are YOU doing to save children? There isn't a step by step manual for these things. My God. Stfu
When a 4-year-old girl says, "Can they just kill him?" I can't even imagine how much pain & suffering that child has already been through to have those feelings. My very first memory is when I was 6 years old in kindergarten - got yelled at in story time, so I had to go to nap time 30 minutes earlier. Started doing that every day afterward. But this child has such horrific memories at 4, that she asks the honest question of, "Can they just kill him?"
@@HellenaHanbasquetit’s pretty concerning that’s your profession if that’s how you feel unless you’re leaving out all the important insights someone of your expertise should have for some reason
How this guy managed to convince all these people to do his bidding is insane. If I told my parents I'd had revelations and they needed to support me, they would laugh me out of the house and have me committed.
It always amazes me how moronic people can be.. They are retirement age and could have had so many more options than going along with what these vile "men" are saying. Instead they let their little grandchildren be exposed to these creeps. They should all be in prison. The men won't be raising their children anymore. Thank GOD
can't be the brightest light in the room if someone had told you they had custody of their own children, but lets hide them away. sadly shows how deeply brainwashing and blind adherence can go.
It's fascinating how they talk about the "age of consent" with no understanding of the concept of consent. "She was promised to him as a wife". No-one ever asked the girls.
Also the "grandpa" not knowing what the "age of consent" was and saying that it was probably when they got puberty. The guy's probably a pe*o too. He also kept putting blame on the little girls.
The way those police officers took care of those kids when they finally found them and made sure they didn’t feel unsafe around them is such a relief. Those poor babies all cold and hungry breaks my heart…
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The fact that the little girl can differentiate from being hungry and being starving is heartbraking
Yeah, I picked up on this, too. Most kids think they're "starving " when dinner is a little late.
RIGHT. I was like how does she know
That differently tugged at my heart and was shocked how such little one had such a grown adult thinking and understanding of the words 😢
Exactly what I was thinking… a kid should never know what starving is..
she didn't know what starving was. what?
Hearing a middle aged man talk about checking an 8 and 4 year old for a hymen is one of the most disgusting and disturbing things I’ve EVER heard. These people don’t deserve freedom, prison or even life.
Truth! DP for all!
It's extremely common for religious men to treat their daughters this way. Purity culture is abhorrent and harmful to women and especially young girls
@@TomboyGirlfriendEighteen and counting comes to mind.
Yeah, it can make you feel physically sick hearing this interview.
@@TomboyGirlfriend Common for religious men? Are you kidding me?
Only Cultists like that of the Hindu, islamists and the Mormons act like this. Outside of those cults it's incredibly rare to put that kind of attention on it, ESPECIALLY IN YOUNG CHILDREN LIKE YOU SUGGEST.
The little girl saying” can they just kill him?” about her father has to be one of the most heartbreaking parts of this.
She’ll feel like that til she’s 50
This response confuses me, what do you mean till she's 50? @@chayacarney5873
Yet you think go she knows what he deserves for all that
I beg to differ. I'm happy she values herself at such a young age. To know that whoever does atrocious things to her doesn't deserve to breathe.
She may have over heard it or was used to hearing it said 😮
Shout out to that cop and the tenderness, patience, and kindness he showed to those little girls. You the MVP, dude. Good job.
The way he talks to them is just so sweet 🫠
@@w0mpW0mp._. one time, i farted.. but it wasn't a fart
one time, i farted.. but it wasn't a fart one time, i farted.. but it wasn't a fart😮
The man saying "I'm not sworn, I'll dangle his ass out of a helicopter to make him talk" was so damn based. God, it was gut-wrenching hearing the girls telling them what had happened and saying how cold and hungry they were.
Hey, we're all thinking it too....
Angel right there. One of Gods warriors
I heard one of them say " want me to pull out the beard hair "? cause the trooper really wanted too cause u can hear it in his voice
He hated that evil man
@@rogerelzenga4465 I was thinking worse
The guy who said "I'm not sworn I'll let him dangle from a helicopter to get him to talk" is my hero.
Yeah I love it he deserves recognition a real vigilante
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@@thirstylemming4854 36:38
The cop showing the traumatized little girls a glow stick trying to distract them from the terrible situation deserves so much respect.
I agree with you 💯
Those cops are princes!
No it doesn't. The girls were freezing yet not one of those officers thought to take off his jacket and wrap it around the girls. How many times did the officer ask the girls if they were hungry? The first time he asked them if they were hungry another officer should have been sent to get food with that info being conveyed to the girls. Asking 2 or 3 more times?! The little girl who didn't want to come out of the barrel, a) the officer was the adult, kids don't always do what is best for themelves and b) the first priority is the overall physical well being of these girls.. She should have been immediately picked up and taken to warmth. Wrap that rug thing around her or the officer's jacket, anything. just get her to warmth. Listening to these cop talking to these little girls they were clearly not completely comfortable interacting with kids and they're probably all fathers. There is a YT video of cops raiding a motel room where a man who had kidnapped a 7 yr girl was holed up with the child. The man kept her naked. A cop immediately picked her up to get her away from that situation with and a 2nd cop, maybe 10 seconds later, asked "can we get her a blanket or a towel" and covered her. They were both male cops and they not only were their priorities right, the way they were so comfortable talking to her, these are men who interact with their own kids all the time.
@@CharliCharboneau shut up
There’s always someone that can’t help but find a negative in such a horrible situation. SAVE YOUR NEGATIVITY FOR THE FATHER N GRANDPARENTS OF THESE CHILDREN NOT THE POLICE OFFICERS WHO THANK GOD RESCUED THE CHILDREN N ARE PROBABLY IN A STATE OF SHOCK THAT ANYONE WOULD DO SUCH A THING TO THEIR OWN CHILDREN BECAUSE THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE HUMAN.
Grandma isn't even shocked 24 hours in the bitter cold, the dark, no food, no water. WTH. Grandparents need charged too
Need to be*
But yes.
why would they care they probably said some "back in my day kids used to do this for fun" bullshit
@@anthonyboal6086 one time, i farted.. but it wasn't a fart
@@Logan_93 one time, i farted.. but it wasn't a fart
@@anthonyboal6086 one time, i farted.. but it wasn't a fart
The dude who said he’d dangle him out of a helicopter to get answers is my new hero straight up said I’ll go to jail to get these answers. All these officers and people who helped the investigation, like the man who called in the tip, are heroes.
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Its time the public takes note in the culture of UTAH with all these kids used as social, entrapment, & religious PAWNS! Ruby_Franke- Jodi_Hild- Lori_Vallow- Chad_Daybell- Alex_Cox- Megahn_Huntsman- Josh_Powell too many !
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This!!
When he said “how can she be pregnant she’s only 8.” That gave me chills. Instantly felt sick. What a foul foul individual. He doesn’t deny the act, he just says it’s not possible because of her age…
Same I knew right then he had been sexually abusing her.
what? that doesnt imply shit
Looks like you're like practicing for your case
My ex's mom raped him and got pregnant when he was 10 and raised his kids
What the heck are people commenting here are you guys supporting a pedophile? Also scientifically things that aren't said like that but implied are definitely telling and what Police use sometimes to form a hunch before doing further investigation. No it's not 100% but given the situation why are you guys defending this monster... Westlake people in these comments sections are apparently pedophile supporters what the heck
The lack of *serious* charges for the grandparents is outrageous. The children were obviously neglected. And the fact that the girls were all in dresses even in the freezing cold is very disturbing…
Not just that, but the one child that was in the barrel didn’t have her pants on.
Even the mom honestly
Absolutely this.
@@addyperez7397even the mums mum. She willingly let her underage daughter dally off with a predator like it was any normal Tuesday .
All people involved are disturbed.
Exactly!!! The lack of empathy when told they were left out in freezing conditions for 24 hours or the fact that it was clearly obvious their granddaughters were being abused, these people are callous af
Sam is worried about the conditions that CPS provide for children, yet he has his and John's children in barels and an abandoned trailer, severely dehydrated and starving (after abusing them). The irony!
“How could she be pregnant, she’s only 8.” Not “How could she be pregnant, I would never touch her in that way she is a child.” That’s ALL you need to hear to know exactly what they did to those children.
I just commented this myself. Wtf?
That was a clear give away.
Always critically process words. The way they're put together like a puzzle to a whole picture
Sadly there have been cases of precocious puberty and quite young children impregnated by evil people. How extremely disgusting this whole situation is.
These men are heathens, the spawn of Satan, and these detectives are angels.
The amount a 4 year old girl would have to go through to reply 'can't they just kill him?' after hearing her fathers going to prison. That was so heartbreaking. I hope these children go on to have bright futures. ❤
not likely but i do too
That kid is smarter than our entire legal system
When did she say that?
@@userbunnyit’s right near the end. Last 5 mins or so.
They should have. The justice system wont help.
Those kids broke me when they said “ I’m hungry but not starving “ so graceful and innocent poor angels.
They were probably used to being very hungry.
Yeah i bet their “dad” drilled that distinction into them.
That line was the first time I cried.
Me too
How does a child know the difference if they haven't been there? 😢
"Where are the other 2 girls?"
"Should I say or do I need a lawyer?"
....DOES THE LAWYER KNOW WHERE THE KIDS ARE? Some people are so stupid. Incriminating yourself no longer matters you already admitted to leaving 2 little girls in the wild, in 50 gallon drums, with a loaded rifle, in the freezing cold.
I hope those kids are able to feel like kids in their lives, or even just people. This is horrible and I hope both the fathers get the pain they deserve over the next 2 and a half decades in prison.
The gun threw me off, like if you need a kid to have a gun to protect themselves then they shouldn’t be out there, then again they would leave them abandoned for them to find their way back to “camp”
@@Megasauruus Yeah protect themselves from what? YOU? WTF? It makes absolutely no sense and the kids don't know any better. This was such a sad thing to watch I am just glad that some kind of justice was found for these girls... clearly not enough
I can't be the only one outraged the grandparents didn't get prison sentences! They knew exactly what was going on & did NOTHING to protect those children.
It's going to be a long long road of recovery for these kids & I pray they make it.
I'm big mad!!!
🙋♀️😡😡😡oh yeah😢🤬🤯🤬mad, crying, knots in my throat and stomach…traumatizing hearing it 😢
seriously, it’s absolutely infuriating
Satanic to say the least, these little ones are mentally destroyed, not to mention there inner parts, vomit, hears stand up, I'll, no faith in humanity, this is beyond psychotic
I know from having dated a woman who, after we were well involved, told me the horrors of her treatment by her step-father, these girls will survive but will never be ok. It will affect them their entire lives. No punishment is too harsh for these evil adults.
To all those not paying attention to what they hear, it was THE HELICOPTER PILOT NOT (A COP)who said he'd like to DANGLE (NOT THROW) the creep out of the helicopter until he said where he'd put the girls. I fully agree with this wonderful man.
Liberal or conservative, it would be sad to say this man said something wrong. But watch an internet pussy will reply with some condescending bullshit because they got some shit to hide. Props to you!!!
Yup. He first said I'm not sworn in..
@@krookiemonster2673exactly!! saying he’s not sworn in so he swore no oath to follow the same rules/beliefs so he could definitely do more to get the info out of that sicko!
He did say throw at first lol
@@emclovin6962even then though the cops couldn’t let him do it as the defense could say the police allowed him to be tortured and then say that his clients rights were violated and potentially get the charges dropped. I can’t imagine how officers deal with this situations where they want to do something to keep these kids safe but know that doing anything outside the law would derail the investigation
Listening to this mom hyperventilate about her young daughter being married to a full grown man is so heartbreaking. She was also manipulated as a young girl too. I really really feel for her. I hope her, her children, and the other two girls are able to eventually find some peace.
I just sobbed when they found the two girls in those barrels..& thier mother, gut wrenching. She probably became to old to interest the monster. God have mercy😩
Praying for these innocent 4 little girls.
@ginnycleary-zq2pu also, the 2 little boys, they were left far from their camp and had to follow their footprints to fond their way back. They were also instructed not to have anything to do with their sisters and the other 2 girls. Who knows what else they had to endure 😢.
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She did nothing to prevent it.She claims she stayed for financial reasons.She did not follow up and did not fight for custody or even harrass CPS to check on their well being.Pretending to be shocked at his CULT behavior,doesnt fly.
36:40 "im not sworn", dude was a badass and has my respect 100%.
Custody doesn't give you the right to abuse kids. And you don't "own" children 🙄 the level of dehumanizing of these vulnerable children. Sickening.
I would like to point out, that it would be illegal to do to dogs, what was done to these kids.
@@hopefulskeptic42 It's...illegal to do to kids as well.
@@blobbertmcblob4888 um.
Read it again.
I think it's going over your head.
@@blobbertmcblob4888 I think they meant it would be illegal to do to dogs, let alone children.
Bartering with children’s lives. 😡
The grandparents are sickening. They knew that the whole “marriage” with literal children was wrong, but they just let it slide because they didn’t wanna believe their son was a pedophile. And they also allowed John and Micah to be together when she was 16 and he was an adult, so they hadn’t ever done anything to stop his behavior
didnt micah say that johns parents didnt care? despicable people
@@sylekin yes and even allowed it as well
they don't get this way in one generation. and this imbecilic moronic blind brainwashed devotion to 'family no matter what they've done' needs to be altered. family is the strongest unit, but only when they are healthy. however, evil NEEDS to be exposed and shunned. and parents are NOT doing anyone a favor by shielding their spawn and ilk.
The grandparents should go to prison.
The "MOTHER"saying that she put up with all this for financial reasons?!
The grandparent’s should be held more accountable!! This family is disgusting. Poor kids, I really hope they are doing better and are recovering.
agreed, the wife said they let it happen while living there
Wholeheartedly agree!
bunch of nasties 😡🤬😈
Deep down I feel like John sister is happy that they exclude her nd the kids from visiting
Exactly
The cop interrogating Sam was very good, getting him to admit to literally everything. Thank you for saving those girls.
A 4 year old saying "can they just kill him" is absolutely insane. Hope these two men are getting theirs in prison.
They're probably in one of those pedophile protection prisons. This shouldn't be a thing tbh
Yeah dude; hell is on earth and some are fallen angels
if the fellow inmates learn about this, they wont have a "fun time" in prison!
@@mho... goodluck trying to manipulate the inmates with your gospels hahahaha
@@unprovoked99 bait used to be believable. come on, this is 2024
“I don’t have pants on, Sam doesn’t like you looking at me with no pants on” my heart is breaking and I know this is just the beginning
The officers that worked so hard not only to find these kids but to comfort them and distract them while they waited for medical help deserve so much credit. Those girls must've been so cold and terrified and I'm sure every little thing made a difference.
Absolutely! I couldn’t agree more. This is just so sad, crazy, and 100% F*CKED all around.
Does anyone know what happened with Sam’s two girls? Also, I think I missed some key information about everyone’s relation to one another. I was listening while cleaning. But, was the mother married to BOTH MEN? John first at 16, then Sam later in life? And all 6 children are hers? That part confused me, and I know I definitely missed some key background information.
I agree! They were amazing!! My heart was just melting over how they loved and cared for them!
took the four year old ages to come out of barrel and 1st she didnt want to come out because she didnt have any pants. No water or food or toilet all night terrified
It must be hard being a cop in Utah the weirdo state
@@lindsaymiller1406 Sam's two girls were the ones the officers found right after catching him iirc! For the other confusing bits, Mica met John at age 16 and married him when she was 19, Sam is John's friend and not married to her (I think so at least, there was a lot of information to take in all at once in this video)
Edit: Correction, just got to the part after the barrels and the 4 year old girl was John's youngest daughter whilst the 7 year old girl was Sam's oldest. John's oldest daughter and Sam's youngest were the ones found later!
The fact that the grandfather didnt know what Sam and John considered the age of consent to be before having sex with their daughters and then assumed it would be when they hit puberty (BEFORE 18) is absolutely sickening.
Proof that they need prison time
Personally, I don't consider it sex, it's SA and R.
The fact that the CHILD asked if they could just kill the father really shows just how much it affected them. I really really hope they get better mentally and I hope they lead long, successful lives and they can put this all behind them.
It shocked me when she said it. All I hope is that they can heal.
@@tinglelingaling6 Time heals all wounds, they say. Whether the amount of time needed to heal exists in our lifetime... that's debatable, and questionable. For me, it's been 32 years and I haven't recovered yet.
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@@Digitalgems9000 Almost at the end of the video, check the last 5 minutes
I really wish it was that simple but America has a Prison System to uphold.
I am a rape & dv survivor. I was only 5 when my nightmare started. My uncle groomed, raped, sold, & brainwashed me. I was put through & witnessed horrific things. Hearing the babygirl say “I have no pants on!” Broke me 😭. If a human being can do this to children they shouldn’t be walking among us PERIOD!! P3D0S WILL NEVER CHANGE! I am so thankful I broke free at 11 years old. I still have trauma & will continue to heal until the day I pass away.
Honey that was the point i broke down.
I’m so sorry you were put through that trauma! My heart breaks for you and any other child who is abused this way. I admire your strength. I pray for you to have peace and happiness for the rest of your days… 🙏🏻🙏🏻
I am truly so sorry to you and all the innocent victims of these types of sick and evil people. My heart ache for you, and I know I don’t know you but it truly hurts my heart to hear that anyone has to go through any of this. Life these days is so difficult even for people without this type of trauma and so I hate to think about normal everyday issues being added to those who have already suffered so much ❤️🩹Sending you and all victims virtual hugs and prayers that you are okay, and safe
😢 you're so strong and brave to share that I'm so grateful you found freedom I pray that you continue to grow as a person in this world knowing that what happened to you doesn't define you nor did it break you u are so blessed be sure to thank God for having him hand on you then and now
You aren’t just a survivor… you are a warrior! I’m so sorry you had to go thru such trauma but I’m so proud that you have fought and I hope and wish you find true happiness and love in your life. ❤❤❤
The “worst thing” to the grandfather was that his credit was ruined? Not that his grandkids were neglected and sexually abused? Can’t believe those old scumbags weren’t charged with more.
Most moral boomer
Probably was also doing things to the kids.
As someone who lived in a church about 50% as bad, I can 100% guarantee you that guy has fiddled kids as well.
It's what they ussually make an initiation to make certain the guard-characters who enforce the cult leader's will won't ever go to the outside world (since they know they're getting decades in prison if the cult breaks)
He probably started the cycle.
You’re right about him starting the cycle and having no problem having access to kids off the grid lmao he isn’t as innocent and naive as he’s making it out to be
The amount of patience the interrogator had was almost holy.
"I'm hungry, but I'm not starving, but I am hungry." Hurts my heart in ways it's never hurt before. Poor little babies deserved to be loved, protected, and cherished. Not abused, hurt, and betrayed.
Yep. She's probably been taught to tolerate hunger as a norm with these men. :(
The punishment for this type of abuse is too lenient. Our laws need to change.
Especially with the rate of reoffense and the damage it does. This is not something that has been proven to respond to therapy intervention like a person with a DWI 3x who needs to get help for alcoholism. This is entirely different.
It makes me sick.
@@blackdandelion5549 the 4th DUI it’s actually a felony in Wisconsin instead of one.
Prison justice might do it.
@@elizabethloyd3713 yeah I was thinking general population might "fix" the issue the justice system typically can't.
In ANY sexual abuse cases the predators should automatically be locked up for life. There is NO rehabilitation for these types of people.
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I have heard that in prison, predators catch it.
Nope the person that did it to my was a prior offender.
@@lisaanndavis3289 Unfortunately not often enough. Many prisons have secure wings or cells for them because otherwise yea they get stomped out on the regular.
Ive not even finished watching and in tears already. Those teeny tiny children, their wee voices. So so brave.
I’ve seen harsher sentencing for less horrific crimes. I don’t understand. It feels like the system protects rapists and pedophiles more than victims.
Totally agree with you
Through out my research of these kinds of of cases I always see pattern. The victim isnt dead. The system doesn't care unless the life was taken. Even if it's a child. It's sickening, honestly.
It does "feel like," it is true.
Then don't ever vote for a Democrat at any level of government.
it's because the powers that be are also pedophiles. 20 thousand kids go missing in the US alone every year. Thats far too many to just be these circumstantial occurrences. there is a legit market for kids. It's disgusting and i hope it all gets uncovered soon.
Hearing the little girl talk after she emerges from a discarded barrel felt like a gut punch. The innocence among the horror took my breath away. Thankfully all these children have been rescued, and I hope they fully recover from this.
If I had heard that, theres no fucking way anyone I was in charge of escorting made it back to the station with a heart beat.
The little one saying I'm hungry, but I'm not starving....hurt me to the soul. Poor little ones. (Mom of four, and a fairly young grandma...No one who says they're hungry goes that way for long).
Ditto
@@jordanbauerly8843why? Don’t you want them to suffer for a long time?
They will never fully recover. Time will lessen the impact but the horror will still be in their memories, ready to reappear when they are under stress.
The empathy & care those police officers showed those babies was heart warming to hear. They truly cared. It must be so difficult to remain professional to the monsters they capture.
My best friends sister is in child protection within the police. I've seen her go through 3 marriages and it doesn't phase her. She's married to her job.
The ONLY times I witnessed her truly happy were leaving court seeing an abuser get justice. I love her so much.
I wouldn’t make a deal with none of them if I did it would be a lie to get the kids. I hate when people uses religion to just defy themselves
@@mercyjokes2d696 I understand your intended point. But your delivery isn’t flattering.
The inmates at the maximum security penitentiary will love seeing this video and reading the newspaper. 😂
terrible job. More, "We are the police, we help people. The lady police will be here soon, they are driving here fast! Let me get that, DONT TOUCH IT, let me get that gun out of the barrel. Who put that in there? Drink more water. We're gonna get you in the truck where its warms so we can call your mamas!!! I'm gonna reach in and take that gun. John and Sam are gone, they are not gonna be here for a long time. We will not let them near you, but you are safe. Food is coming, real soon, do you want Pizza or McDonalds?"
I hope everyone in prison knows exactly what they did so justice can actually be served.
Oh their fellow inmates will know ALL about their case, believe you me!
I recently heard someone say...Dogs are killed when they hurt a child, but P3d0-files get to live...
Specicism.
Dogs are animals. Animals are gonna be animals. But if a human does it, “5 years in prison!!1!” Is the outcome. Really shows how great humanity is.
Its also a lot worse when its humans because they 100% know what they're doing.
Even When The Dogs Do It On Accident,Not Fair :(
and 9 times out of ten it's because of irresponsible owners letting their dogs around kids. humans who make the decision to harm a child get more leniency than a ransom dog who doesn't know better.
How an entire four grown-ass adults all living together can completely lack empathy for the children is beyond me.
It's GENERATIONAL SIN that's passed down from fathers to sons. These men are absolutely disgusting and EVIL. The Grandparents sound very complicit in the abuse of the children. The whole family is EVIL 😈 💀
While you would want them to, they were brainwashed and they were going with the cult leader because they believed in the cause and as they said didn't do anything wrong. As an outside looking in of course we know it's truly wrong but they can also plead reason of insanity or delusion. This really only qualifies in cases such as this where the Grandparents themselves didn't do anything and were providing all the finances and were being mislead by John and Sam. It is very rare to get this, but the grandparents clearly as the interrogations went on saw how brainwashed they were. That is how clever Cult leaders and those with anti social disorders really are.
These individuals were likely raised to think children were sexual beings, therefore don’t realize how gross it truly is. It happens often and always has.
Psychopaths.
Anyone can become a monster under the right circumstances.
The way the cops comforted and distracted the girls after finding them is so touching. They did an excellent job and deserve so much praise.
Yes but everyone is warmly dressed and the girls have short sleeves and I'm here screaming at them to undress and just give them their coats. Instead they open the door to let the cold air in and ask about water multiple times after being let known the kids are first and foremost cold.
@@braria9855 to be fair to them, they were trying to coax the children out so they could be put in the cop cars where there is heating. I see your point, but the cops were doing their damnedest to comfort the girls and get them to all the things they needed to be safe.
That’s regular protocol😂😂
@@Isaiah024 I understand that, but you can tell when people are 'just doing their job' as opposed to actually caring about people they come into contact with.
The way the cops did their job
Saying that a grown woman was "rebelling" was all I needed to know about who these guys are
god, i’m so thankful that that police officer was so soft and sweet with the poor girls. he was so gentle and careful with them, you could tell that they weren’t scared of him.
The first officer when yelling to get them out of the barrels I wasn’t feeling at first
@@RicheeBethis is one of the very few times in my life that I'm gonna defend a cop, he was still looking for two other children and wanted nothing more than for all four of them to be safe, the amount of adrenaline has to have been on another planet.
@@RicheeBethe priority at the time was locating the girls, it wasn't meant to be abrupt or rude. knowing the context, I fully understand why he was in a rush and needed to be listened too.
@@RicheeBeyes because it’s time sensitive. He needs to get them the hell out and find the others. He did a great job while probably freaking TF out inside. He can hardly talk he’s so out of breath. The police did the best job and were incredible with them.
You could hear the urgency in their voices, you could hear them protecting them
The judge who gave such lenient sentences to these people should be investigated and fired!!
You meant the jury?
@captainobvious6070 juries don't handle down sentences they only decide if they are guilty or not. Judge was very lenient
You know what? The judge knows the case better than you do so.... yeah
@@kwananderson3366
Judge has to follow the book, it was likely a lenient State
@@captainobvious6070Juries don’t decide the sentence.
The irony of your name 🤣
So disturbing. Those “grandparents” should be in prison for life as well. I hope those poor children are getting the therapy they will need.
The mother is crazy too, these kids are in trouble for the rest of their lives.
@@GingerCC-he8beshe was groomed too. She's lucky her mom snapped her out of it
@@GingerCC-he8bewhere are you getting this from? Incels will hate any women no matter what.
@@GingerCC-he8beShe was mentally with it enough to realise isolating them from other children & not ensuring they were homeschooled properly was detrimental to their well being. Also, he was 21 when they met & he groomed her from age 15. That's going to impact your emotional maturity & mental health. 15 is a CHILD.
@@sarahholland2600 there is no excuse for not protecting your children from this evil. These girls are not getting help now. She has proven that she is so damaged she cannot be a mother.
The cases on child abuse are always the hardest to watch/listen to. I had to pause the video halfway through because I began crying. It is beyond horrific that anyone could do this to a child.
The 4 year old said, " can they just kill him?" in regards to her father. She and the other 5 children suffered horribly. It is terrible that there are people who can be so cruel to children.
I missed that WOW
I know. How terrible they had obviously been treated, and to hear that coming from a 4 year old. It was heartbreaking
@@deniseblackburn33its at the end of the video
I know even if their punishments on earth aren’t what they deserve. God will judge them one day.
The child was worried about what might happen to her father after hearing he was going to jail. You might think that these children ought to hate the fathers but that is not how it works. Note how when taken in initially the one child says she just wants to see her father. It is not unusual for an abused child to keep quiet about abuse to protect someone that they actually still care about deeply.
"Can they just kill him?" Are chilling words from such a small and innocent soul.
I’m 35 wondering the same thing.
genuinely heart shattering. i hope those poor babies go on to have the best lives possible and get all of the help they need.
Just shows how they inherently know it was wrong despite Johns efforts to keep them isolated from society such that they would think it was normal.
But it was the absolute truth
I'm a grown man, I spent 5 years active duty as an infantryman in the US ARMY, when I heard,
"Sam's gone." In that poor babies voice and my heart lurched nearly bringing tears to my eyes. Those poor babies, the thought of my son enduring something so awful makes me run red and it's incomprehensible to me. How can you do something like that, they've never done anything wrong.
The strength of these officers to not fucking bludgeon that bastard to the point his eyeballs fall from the socket is nothing short of Saint like.
100% agree!
Amen to everything you said, Sir & thank you for your service ❤
Well said! Thats how a real father is supposed to be and not like the scum in this video.
Also, thank you for your service!
Agreed
100% agree. Makes my fucking blood boil.
The police talking to those kids makes me wanna cry. They were so sweet to them ❤
As a father to a baby girl this was really sickening and rage inducing to watch and hear. I literally got so mad that my hand curled up into a fist when Sam said he would check the hymen on these little girls including his own!!! These “adults” don’t deserve to even see the light of day. Hope they get what they deserve in prison and I wish the best for those girls.
If you were the father to a baby boy.. would your rage be the same?
@@sushleswas this a productive comment??
@@sushleswth kind of question is that? Why would you even say that to begin with.
@@sushles as someone who has both ya.....
same here, it makes my blood boil!
The officers showed amazing restraint. I can't imagine talking to the only person that knows where the girls were that didn't want to say anything to save their lives.
Their just as bad in my opinion. Kids count on adults to protect them and when they don’t , there trust in humanity that it takes a long time sometimes a life time before they’re able to trust again . They were in barrels Wow how a father could put harms way and act like nothing.
They're just as bad? The cops? Confused here
@@caricaturecontest7899that was a confusing comment for sure. No idea what it is referring to.
The restraint these officers showed was astounding! Astounding! They’re armed, I would not be able to control myself. I hope with every fibre of my body that these 6 children get the help they need to make sense of what has happened to them and that none of it was their fault. The psychological damage can last a life time and I wish I didn’t know that from experience. I also don’t think the grandparents were punished enough and I hope these 3 predators get real prison justice. They deserve no mercy.
well one of the officers also sodomized one of them when they were rescued so idk about restraint.
The grandfather saying he doesn't think the kids were sexually abused and then going on to say that John and Sam were waiting for them to reach legal age to marry them.... So fucking disgusting. He absolutely knew.
Well then why did Sam leave the little girl pantless in that container 😢
Scum
Not to mention he said he figured they would consumate the marriage around puberty. So basically 12 or 13 in his mind would be OK. The grandparents should have been given at least 10 years at a minimum.
@@coreyhamby2989 they probably went with the thinking of “once a youngin hits puberty they’re biologically ready to go” 😅
Yes in 48 states it is legal to marry minors. Look it up.
Not just Muslims who do this crap. It's white men too. Freaks.
Thank you so very much for the responsible disclaimer of "although they took beliefs from these religions, they were not a part of nor accepted by them".
He’s worried about cps but has them in sub freezing temperatures, starving and dehydrated in abandoned containers?!?! What a very sick and deranged individual, all of them!
They were far too gentle to that POS. THEY SHOULD HAVE MADE IT CLEAR WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO HIM IN GAOL.
The two men in this story are snakes plain and simple, slithering in every direction to escape.
@@margyeoman3564that’s an insult to snakes
Pedos don’t care and that’s all they are, the lot of them😢
He was acting dumb he knew it was wrong.
And now the boys are afraid to go near their sisters. Just completely ruined a normal childhood for these babies. I hope they're able to recover.
Typical utah culture
@@monsoonBloomnot at all
@@latenightbreakdowns2107No, it absolutely is. Every religious psychopath and abuse cases comes out of your state. Mostly all of America but Utah seems the worst.
@@Stevie-oy8zj I’m not from Utah. Based purely on child abuse cases Utah isn’t even in the top ten. Based on cult leaders or cults in general, California, Nevada, and New Mexico have the highest rates of that. Horrible people are everywhere. It’s not from one state.
"I didn't see anything wrong" said the grandmother. How can you accept that your own adult son says that he will marry somebody else's daughter when she turns 18? This whole family is so twisted.
Right, every time she said she didn't see anything inappropriate after she just said the girls were calling themselves their WIVES I was like wtf are you talking about? You just said a 7 year old is saying she is the WIFE of your adult son... what is wrong with these people?
The Mormon religion warps peoples minds. It's disgusting how much of this shit comes out that cult.
Muhammad and joseph smith didn't even wait.
@@calvaryapologetics Yes, but we’re all living in 2023-24 (or later) now…so people should know better.
@@leannemo7382 I guess I just don't know better than :)
"I'm not starving, but I am hungry"
These poor girls... 😞 it's absolutely sickening what happened to all of them.
Their childhood ruined, forever. It's disgusting.
Dude, hearing those little babies talking about what happened to them utterly broke me. I can not understand how a grown adult can hurt a child. As a victim of CSA, it pains me to know the challenges these kids are gonna face just because of the selfish actions of an adult.
Apparently, you're unaware of the enormous child trafficking ring your species has. The real question is, how in the world could a species be so messed up, that not only is pedophilia and overall abuse to their children a common occurrence, but that they've apparently made a business out of it. [shakes head]
Nor me, but it happens all the time. The world is a twisted place.
Well start understanding because it's happening all the time around you.
@user-nq2oz8tf2l You can be aware of something without understanding it. The OP said they were themselves a victim of CSA, it's not like they are in denial.
@@Peaches-i2iBoy are You missing THE POINT.
the fact these grown adults allowed their grandchildren to be assaulted like this might explain how john turned out to be the way he is
I am one of the Coltharp’s grandkids and I just stumbled across this video. I haven’t seen my uncle in almost a decade but I see my grandparents every few months and they’ve talked about this situation before. I don’t condone my uncle’s actions at all and I think both him and Sam deserve to rot in that cell, but I’m honestly kind of surprised by the comments about my grandparents. They did do nothing to stop John, but there was more going on than they described in the video. I’m not sure if I’m getting the details of this story right, but there was one time my grandpa said that one time John took him and my grandpa out to a hill and held them there for hours at gunpoint, threatening to shoot if they moved, because my grandpa suggested that they would call the police. John did horrible things to them just as he did to the kids and they pretty much couldn’t stop him or else they would be murdered. So the comments saying that they willingly did it are upsetting to me.
Also the comment in the video about him distracting himself from the topic because he’s leaning to the side bothered me. My grandpa has horrible hips and a horrible back and he’s had many surgeries. When he’s sitting he’s constantly leaning and moving like he was in the video. It’s just how he sits.
I already knew about most of the stuff in this video so it wasn’t too surprising, but it was just interesting to see the actual interrogations and such, as someone related to this awful person. This event affected everyone in the family and I actually saw Micah and my cousins right after it happened several years ago (before she shunned our side of the family). Back then I was younger and didn’t really understand the situation much but now I realize how wide the scope was. Its very depressing and outraging that someone in my family is such a horrible person.
The closest I’ve gotten to seeing my wretched uncle in the last few years has been driving past the Gunnison Supermax Prison every time I go to visit my family in Spring City. I hope I never actually see his face though.
man this is a really long comment but I just thought I should share my perspective and also the perspective that my family has had after hearing about more than this video shows from our grandparents themselves. Its been a wild decade.
@@thisismyname-br8qtjust hope the best for u and the worst for all the adults who did nothing to save u
Cold, senseless monsters. Who hears two children were trapped in a barrel for 24 hours and just goes, “okay” 1:16:30
Everyone in this family is cold, and senseless. More scared for themselves, than the children who were being extremely abused.
He didn't turn out, psychopaths are born. They actually show the signs of victims of psychopathic coercion. Of course they are responsible as adults tho, and I think their sentences are shait
@@thisismyname-br8qtif this is true, you need to see a fucking therapist, you are out of your mind.
Listening to the officers voices immediately turn soft, calm and sweet each time they speak with the little girls is wonderful!!
I was raped at the age of 7 for almost 5 years. I hope this words reach those beautiful girls & it gives them the strength it gave me. “TODAY I LEARNED THAT EVERY CELL IN OUR ENTIRE BODY IS REPLACED EVERY SEVEN YEARS. HOW LOVELY IT IS TO KNOW ONE DAY I WILL HAVE A BODY YOU WILL HAVE NEVER TOUCHED “
I'm on year six, wish me luck 🤞❤
@@somethingsomethingsarcasmwait what? Are you okay...??
@@PearlsAndWhirls physically yes, mentally... probably not but hey È così y'know?
thanks for asking though!
Then I'm even happier in thought that my body at this point has only been touched by my husband.
@@somethingsomethingsarcasmi genuinely hope you get out of that situation and heal as much as physically and mentally possible.. much love ☹️❤️
As someone wise once said
"All children deserve parents but not all parents deserve children "
Ain't that the truth ...
man u spitting fr…
Nobody has ever "deserved" children. Children are always made for someones pleasure or out of egoism. And people who think they're capable of having children are 100% not.
Facts
@@fartcannon-wg5olyou're not wrong but there's also more than those two motivations for having kids. Humans are far too complex to limit them to two reasons. 😅 I mean just look at colts in general a lot of people in polygamous cults believe it is their godly duty to bring children into this world... Are they brainwashed yes is their motivation good also yes... And that's something I can think of on a large.. individuals are even more complex than that in their reasoning.
"I don't want to be part of society.... I'm going to live off my parents' social security" 🤦🤦🤦 and these types never see the irony.
And state provided food stamps!
@@snewpe19in technology that keeps them in touch with everything😂😂
That part made me roll my eyes so hard. I just can't-
And the parents fell for it too 😵💫 I swear if my son started telling me he's a prophet I'd call to get him into a psych hold!
Yeah "free money" certainly helped these monsters make excuses for wavering on their own heinous and idiotic set of beliefs -Of course that's how it usually works for people of exceptionally poor conviction.
That poor mother.. her hyperventilating crushed me
that woman is just as guilty as sam the grandparents and john she left those kids to john because they were an inconvenience to her
The fact Sam didn’t want the kids going to CPS because of how badly they’d be treated is mind blowing.
Yeah he didn’t want them reporting to CPS, so he made them like a devil to be avoided. They (and cops) were a threat to his pedo cult to be avoided
I understand what you’re saying but CPS is a terrible organization. Children they’ve taken into custody to “help” have gone missing. Trafficking is big business these days. Gives the do dirties more money than running drugs or guns. No one should trust CPS and they should be put out of business.
Nah, that's bull. He was just scared of being outted.
Ngl he isn’t wrong… cps is terrible for children a huge failure
His efforts to keep that from happening were really bad, but he's not entirely wrong for thinking that's what would happen. Obviously not an excuse, but even if child services had gotten involved ever... there's only a 50/50 chance that a satisfactory outcome would have taken place.
The fact that the girls still asked for their dad after being found just hurts my heart they trusted him and he hurt them back.
These kids were kept very isolated, and also had no-one being kind to them to show them any other life.
i was a single child in a single mom household. she had severe mental illness and beat me daily. i still would cry for her and want her as a child. stock hold syndrome at its finest. i’d often get scrutinized as a child for wanting her, and it made the abuse seem invisible
Trusted is not really the right word. It's indoctrination. There step of mental processing necessary to decide whether you trust someone or not, does not exist.
Totally 😢
Stockholm syndrome trauma bond
The grandparents are sick. The men are sick. Hope they were thrown in prison for their lives. Sam’s discussion about the hymens makes me so angry. Horrific. Just disgusting. Hope the kids get lots of help.
They won’t and expect them to be predatorIZED for a lifetime until they seek the light 💡from within!
The problem with old people, the older they get the easier it is to control them because they become more and more child like..
Hell will give them eternal justice
All religions are sick. Religion is child abuse, yet they get tax breaks. Ban all religions.
I wonder how they raised him. No one seems mentally competent.
The cop that wanted to dangle him might be the only cop that has my respect
She kept repeating "he doesn't want you to look at me without my pants on" even though she was fully dressed showed how much programming she was subjected to.
So glad someone else caught this
Ehh? But she wasnt.. She put her pants back on while inside the barrel.. At least thats how it looked to me
When the creep said how could she be pregnant she’s only 8
I don’t believe the grandparents didn’t know what was happening with those girls at all. The whole reason they followed their son to that compound is because they believed that the end of times were near, but then John and Sam have 10+ years to wait until those children were “of age”. Make it make sense
How do you think John ended up that way?. Wasn't all nature, most of it seemed to be nurture .
@@Lilith6.6 Victims tend to be Abuser themselves growing up, so of course the grandparents are responsible for their Son.
They abused him before and they turned out this way
Any excuse to live out their fantasies.
@@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad I don't understand what the point of your post is. You seem to agree with what I am saying yet phrasing it like it's an argument. Please explain so I do not respond in a disproportionate manner.
They knew
When she said “can they just kill him” it really showed me how much they did to these children! Even heavily abused children still want their parents. We see it all the time in nursing. They forgive. They want the love and affection when given in the right way. They long for a stable, healthy relationship. They keep hoping things will get better. These 2 hurt these kids really bad and saying “ can you just kill him”, really shows how much they hurt them!
100% , I come from a severely abusive father. 15 years I spent with him doing horrid things to me. Not even as a kid did I want him dead. As an adult I've had to forgive MYSELF. For still loving him and wishing he would love and care for me as a daughter.
The level of abuse they went through makes me so so sick. It takes a lot to wish death especially for a kid and dear god do I wish they would've dropped him out of the helicopter.
Let him live that fear and terror for what little time would've been left.
Indeed! People in abuse even severe abuse get used to it & often switch blame from their abuser to themselves! The abuse is their normal & they don't know anything else. They just know it doesn't feel good! Takes a good bit of therapy to help them find a healthy normal to feel comfortable in!
When was this?
At the end of the video. She isnt on the video saying it, but the narrator is talking about how the kids were doing a few months afterwards. @mossbride
@@mossbride 1:42:30
Props to the detective interviewing Sam and keeping him talking for so long and de-escalating Sam after he'd bring up the possibility of talking to his lawyer so he'd continue to leak out bits of information subconsciously👏
These cops were so sweet when talking to the little girls. Man, I hope the cops are ok after this, and the girls find some happiness and joy
I'm sure they got some therapy. And I hope and pray they got GOOD therapy and have a stable life now.
@@libertybell8852they gonna tell the therapist there full thoughts and then get put in a asylum on a unknown planet
Check what happened to the Turpin children, unfortunately we as a species have a long way to go to help children even once taken from abusers they can offen be abused by "Foster parents" & again neglected by the system 😢 it's so sad.
yeah, they urgently needed to get them out and into the cars but didn’t want to frighten them any further. it must have been really difficult to stay so calm!
They were amazing. And we have idiot calling them racist . Demoralizing them and wanting to defund them
It brings tears to my eyes to watch those two responding officers rescuing those poor girls from the barrels. You can hear in their voices how they are in full paternal protection mode, trying to bring some semblance of comfort and assurance and security for them. A rare glimpse into the actions of two police officers who are inherently good and compassionate people.
It's only rare to see because hate sells papers, so on the news the only things you see or hear about are the few bad apples that taint every profession.
@@anubispup4760unfortunately there’s more than a few bad apples but I agree with your sentiment
@@scatreed Well given the number of police in the country vs the bad apples, they number only a few.
@@anubispup4760 nah, there are entire towns with corrupt and racist police. Plenty of bad apples. A lot, not a few. A lot of good cops too though.
@@anubispup4760the whole bunch is rotten to the core.
You know what? You guys should only be able to find a story like this maybe once every 10 years. The fact that you finds stories like this almost weekly, makes me want to just burn the planet.
I'm still waiting for the asteroid.
@@thegreencat9947I’m praying for it.
Yep same
Humans are despicable
Utah...
"Ive heard some horror stories about CPS" says an absolute monster whos letting his children freeze to death to protect his own skin
It's extremely disappointing that the grandparents essentially got away with their part in this. They were the only people there who could have protected those kids, and they simply chose not to. Ice-cold.
The mother could have as well.She was completely aware of his cult beliefs and behavior.She never even asked for well check ups on these kids.She claimed that she stayed for financial reasons.I dont buy her SHOCK for one second.
Ice cold is exactly what they are. Despicable
It's a wonder that 'Mr. Roe' got out of his encounter with these perps alive - despite his apparent sympathy with their proclivities - once he had shown that he wasn't going to be an accomplice. It's also surprising that any competing males were left living in this cult-community, as these monsters seemed prepared to sacrifice anyone who opposed these perps, or obstructed them, or represented any competition for their sexual abuse.
@@rochellestarr9538mother was 16 when this happened. She was a victim as well.
@@ynwa7084 No.The children are the victims
The hate I feel for John, Sam, and the grandparents equally, is overwhelming. As a mother of 6yr old and 5 year old little girls......the little girl voice coming out of that barrel took the breath right out of my body. I have watched almost every EWU video but the ones about kids hurt me to my core.
The grandparents were manipulated, I doubt they had any idea what was actually going on
@Beabuzz123 bullshit! Those grandparents should be thrown under the jail with the rest of them! ZERO CONCERN displayed! Absolutely SICKENING behavior at best!
@@shandi1102 what did they do?
@@Beabuzz123watched sam and John kiss on the little girls
There's a special place in hell for these types of people....
Hearing the little girl explaining that she’s “not starving but shes hungry” breaks my heart. That tells me that they where starved. Makes me so mad to know that two adults treated kids this way! This makes me grieve for them
Yeah when I heard her say something so raw it was true.
When I was a kid I was never starved, but I was also not allowed to say "I'm starving" as an exaggeration, I'd be told it was insensitive to kids in the world who didn't have access to food. So I didn't think right away that meant she was starved sometimes.
I have no idea how grown adult fall into cults. How miserable ones life must be, to engage in such behavior.
Looking to belong & they think safety in numbers. These type of personalities are extremely manipulative.
They give them, then take, then give a little more and take again. The cycle repeats. It rattles the brain.
As a mother, if I found that her own father had looked at her vagina to see if her hymen were intact, I’m not sure hat he’d be breathing long enough to be arrested, let alone prosecuted. This is all so disgusting, everyone involved, including the grandparents who allowed this, need to be jailed for a very very long time. These men are infuriating, truly.
It doesn't mean anything anyway. They can be broken in many ways that are unrelated. Just plain ignorance .
John's beliefs stem from his upbringing, the fact they are so nonchalant tells me they support these beliefs. Not just that, bur if I heard a child was betrothed to an adult that would make me lose my shit.....the way they talked about being a father figure until marriage without an ounce of disgust was really weird.
Well said 🎉
Agreed.
They would not even find his body.
I think one of the most shocking parts about this case is the stupidity and neglect of the grandparents. What do you mean you were ok with two middle-aged men MARRYING BABIES because they weren't going to "consumate the marriage". The fact that they sat by and let these events unfold is absolutley disgusting, and the lack of charges on them is even more so. I would argue they are just as despicable as the men themselves for not protecting their grandbabies. My heart goes out to those poor girls and the brave officers who rescued them.
Even someone ( & they know they are dangerous) talking about marrying a kid will raise redflags much less 2 friends shopping daughters for marriage. The grandparents could have saved those girls but they chose not to.
💯
You know whats more horrifying is that multiple states refuse to ban child marriage -- that mentality has made it all the way up in our government.
don't forget they thought it was fine because the virgin Mary was 13
Hell, they were the ones who created the main monster! They both should be in prison for life.
That detective was an absolute superhero tbh. He was incredible at getting Sam onside, sidestepping all the lawyer remarks, and getting him to feel relaxed enough to confess to absolutely shocking actions. You just know he wanted to kill that excuse of a man with every word out of his mouth, but he held it together and got a confession.
Yeah, I've watched a lot of these kind of videos and they have the psychology tactics down to an art. I don't know how they can override emotions and come across as friendly and understanding in such a convincing way as to cause the perp to spill their guts, but man can they do it! I've seen the guys who can't do it well too and they don't get anywhere. It is such a crucial skill and no doubt super hard to do.
Compound, 😂 more like a junkyard 😅
Yeah at one point he’s slowly rocking back and forth… you know the willpower this man is exerting to restrain his dislike and desire to rip this guy apart is crazy.
"Do you understand the severity of the temperatures to the children?" "Ya I could be held for manslaughter" doesnt even concern himself with the fact that they could've died, Sam only cares about what happens to himself 🤦♂️
Crazy how Sam was soo concerned that CPS would hurt the girls in some way that he’d rather them sent directly to their mothers… but hid them alone in barrels overnight in the freezing dessert while he fled the scene?????
But, in his defense, he did say that they had a blanket 🙄 (sarcasm)
If he kills them, they ain't going to CPS. So, mission accomplished?
They know what they've been doing is terrible, would be giving them too much credit to say otherwise. Similar to the "grandparents", they knew things are messed up, they chose to close their eyes and roll with it.
All of them can pretend as much as they want, that gut feeling inside that what they are doing is not right, was always there. Can clearly see it in the interrogations.
Because CPS has a way of getting information out of kids. The last thing he wanted was a psychologist getting ahold of them.
@@Chahlieor they have to stop doing what he was doing to them😢😢
CPS actually is awful. It’s very much not a win when children are taken by them.
Those grandparents are absolutely ridiculous. How can you genuinely believe that your son would wait till those girls were of consenting age when the mother of his children was a minor when they met? Outrageous
It's not only about them waiting until those little girls were 18 it should have been the fact that her son and his "friend" had llned up their future brides at such young ages and were going to cut them off from everything and everyone so they would be completely dependent and under the control of these men and simply not know of any other way. And the grandparents were ok with that.
The Grandparents know (cult leader & evil apprentice) own the blame, not sheep!
Well of course! They are the proud parents of a prophet and religious leader! Why would they do anything to stop that!! I'm sure they saw themselves as Mary and Joseph or some other bullcrap. They're absolutely equally culpable.
@@BettinasisrgAbsolutely 💯%!!!
Well, there's a big difference between six and sixteen, obviously. I think the age of consent in Utah might actually be sixteen.
I'm 1 hour in and have to say that his parents was absolutely crazy too. Your son is calling a child "His wife" and you don't see nothing is wrong 🤦🏻♀️
Exactly.
Oh so it gets worse 😢 38:28 I’m here, and it’s already really fucking bad
He did it in the Borat voice so they thought it was funny
This is the most sickening story of child abuse I've ever heard. I cried so many times watching this. No punishment would be too cruel for those two.
Those elderly parents should’ve gotten the same sentences. That’s BS they didn’t know what was going on. 48 hours in a holding cell and 2 weeks of house arrest isn’t shit. They are as sick as their son.
The grandfather was so concerned about the money though. They got him where it hurt when they fined him $25k.
She also said I’m not starving but I am hungry. Which is telling. She understands suffering in a way most kids don’t. It’s usually starving or not hungry. Because kids don’t know what starving is they just say they’re starving if they get fed a little later than expected but these kids most likely know real starvation
Narcissists controls food,they also feeds off on others pain. JazzyT.
I recognized that too. It might also be , in part, that these kids were told they weren't starving, only hungry. And learned to minimize their own discomfort out of fear.
But I'm leaning the same direction you were.
I thought the same, I feel that was a very big clue of the abuse they went through
Things like this are what made me teach my niece and nephew the difference between hungry vs starving. They were visibly shaken after being shown some example photos lol.
43:00 My heart literally broke. These officers are trying so hard to try and cheer these children up and make sure that they are fed, given water and tried to even take their minds off all of the chaos and horrible things the children have been going through. HUGE Respect for all of the officers!
yea but its kinda ridiculous that the cops are out there all day with the kids in the truck and sometime after dark they're still telling the kids "were working on getting you some food" doesn't seem they were working very hard
As to trying to get them food .. it was the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere. They may have had to travel 30+ minutes one way to get food.
@@kathrynkimbrough4244 possibly yes but the children were found and put in the truck during daylight hours. Not a big deal just saying feeding those girls didn't appear to be a big priority.
@@maiamystia Amazing the explanations people are willing to conjure up for these officers. Im not trying to be too hard on them because I know wearing the badge requires a high level of incompetence . It just seems to me that if they had done any kind of search the first time they were there or treated it like a black teenager who's car they were tearing apart trying to find a blunt roach the kids would have been found days ago.
However giving them the benefit of the doubt, Im not sure I have ever seen a LEO actually be helpful in a bad situation so expecting them to either call one of the other officers sitting at the donut shop to come through or God forbid removing these poor children from the scene and getting them into town where the cops always manage to find food when they're hungry is way beyond the reasoning capabilities of the uniformed cartel members. If someone needed shot or their neck kneeled on they have the training for that, just no knowledge of how to produce a slim Jim or pack of crackers from a gas station. I see your point.
@sandygoldstrike6451 you just want a reason to hate on the police. What are YOU doing to save children? There isn't a step by step manual for these things. My God. Stfu
The “I am hungry, I’m not starving but I am hungry” got me
This is so sad. How can a father do this to his own kids.
When a 4-year-old girl says, "Can they just kill him?" I can't even imagine how much pain & suffering that child has already been through to have those feelings. My very first memory is when I was 6 years old in kindergarten - got yelled at in story time, so I had to go to nap time 30 minutes earlier. Started doing that every day afterward. But this child has such horrific memories at 4, that she asks the honest question of, "Can they just kill him?"
@@HellenaHanbasquet oh, no doubt. When I saw that, I thought that she'd be a piece of work when she's an adult and won't take shit from anyone.
@@HellenaHanbasquetit’s pretty concerning that’s your profession if that’s how you feel unless you’re leaving out all the important insights someone of your expertise should have for some reason
How this guy managed to convince all these people to do his bidding is insane. If I told my parents I'd had revelations and they needed to support me, they would laugh me out of the house and have me committed.
It always amazes me how moronic people can be.. They are retirement age and could have had so many more options than going along with what these vile "men" are saying. Instead they let their little grandchildren be exposed to these creeps. They should all be in prison. The men won't be raising their children anymore. Thank GOD
Fr that's sickening!!!
Because his parents are awful people too
can't be the brightest light in the room if someone had told you they had custody of their own children, but lets hide them away. sadly shows how deeply brainwashing and blind adherence can go.
i'll get a slap
It's fascinating how they talk about the "age of consent" with no understanding of the concept of consent. "She was promised to him as a wife". No-one ever asked the girls.
Also the "grandpa" not knowing what the "age of consent" was and saying that it was probably when they got puberty. The guy's probably a pe*o too. He also kept putting blame on the little girls.
Consent doesn't matter to them, all the consent they need is from themselves
.... just like issslam
Ketutar you are making them line the streets with contraband weapons with me, ha!
Lying saying Mary was 13 when had Jesus
The way those police officers took care of those kids when they finally found them and made sure they didn’t feel unsafe around them is such a relief. Those poor babies all cold and hungry breaks my heart…