I did something like this a few years ago with an old exercise bike, treadmill motor, diode, 12v battery & inverter. Was a fun project. Thanks for the video!
@@electronicsNmore higher psi and better tyres will prevent that.btw that bicycle is very bad.Get a good road bike. (: Ps:Try getting one of the old Tacx Fortiuses you wont regret. Love your videos mate.
I like this, if you were not able to start your car this could work to give it a boost. I would like to see a generator like this for when the bike is being riden out on a road or bike trail to charge phone or other devices.
If the battery wasn't totally dead, you should be able to put enough power back into the battery to start the car. My setup will easily charge laptops/pads, and phones. Thanks for watching! Remember to share the video link with others.
@@electronicsNmore That is a nice setup, when the halogen lamp was being powered the meter was reading 13.48 volts and around 6.25 amps, that is enough power to run my home theater system and then some. Maybe a setup like this for the kids to power their phones and gaming systems so they get some exercise instead of being glued to a sofa playing games all day. Sort of like a challenge, you can play all you want as long as you can power it yourself. It's not a punishment, but I may sound a little harsh.
higly efficient in the whole context view. thanks for showing us your progress. keep improving. don't let the impossible"barrier, jeopardize your work. thanks
Would it be the same result if you installed a maxwell capacitor bank to it? Also why not use the power generated to turn another motor attached to a 90 amp alternator.
If you charge up a capacitor bank, you'll have plenty of power, but you'll need to limit the current flowing into the capacitors, or you won't be able to pedal. You always lose when transforming power, never gain. Thanks for watching!
Hi great info I liked this we are trying to build something like this setup where is the parts info I can not find it I want to know where to buy the 120-volt DC converter from and what it is please part number and size and other info on it thank you.
I really liked the video. Lots of questions. 1. Hypothetically, if you added a flywheel to the rear wheel would it increase the momentum and voltage generated? 2. In the event of an EMP would the latent (not being used) circuit board components in the mechanism get ruined? 3. Can this mechanism fully charge a 12 volt car battery? 4. Is this mechanism the same principle as a hydroelectric power plant, only miniaturize? Thanks, Arthur. PS: I really liked it because it's something I've thought about 100 times.
Glad you enjoyed it Arthur! I think the load placed on the generator would slow down the flywheel faster than you can pedal to maintain the speed of the flywheel. EMP, you can still charge up 12V lead acid batteries. :-).
1. No. But it would reduce the impact of varying load upon the rider, which could make it more comfortable to operate - you wouldn't experience quite as much of a jerk to your legs when someone turned an appliance on or off.
The flywheel is a temporary reservoir of (kinetic) energy analogous to a capacitor in electronics. It acts as a buffer. But energy in = energy out + heat (losses). If you are powering a 50W load then you must but in a bit more then that with your pedaling, depending on the system efficency. (losses occur at every step, chain/sproket, wheel rolling resistance against the generator spindle, all the bearings, the generator's windings, DC to DC converters and I2R losses)
The inertial/centrifugal force of a large flywheel would not increase momentum or voltage output, as you would still only be able to pedal it as fast as your strength would allow. However, it would tend to perpetuate momentum as you get tired, allowing for brief moments of rest on your legs without affecting the voltage as much as if there were no flywheel...In theory, one would be able to pedal for longer periods of time, thereby producing more electricity!
I wonder if you attached a brushless direct drive 3-phase ebike hub motor and added a three-phase bridge rectifier would be more efficient and less complex?
Every gym should have many of these in every city state and country. Imagine 20 people putting out 50w for one hour. I think that our be around 1kwh or so
So about ten pence an hour. It's not economical to generate power this way. You'd be better off buying a few solar panels. It'd make a good novelty device though, to draw in customers.
@@mtkoslowski It's a nice idea but the economics wouldn't work. Compare the cost of a kilowatt hour of energy Vs payback on initial investment and ongoing maintenance per kilowatt hour. Even getting close to breaking even would be an achievement.
Membership fees offset by one peddlng, I'll take it. In my area San Diego we have the highest rates in the country so it really varies city to city state to state. Maybe it would make more sense in higher rate areas if the bikes would last. It's about 14cents to 20 cents here for a 350 watt hours hear to charge a scooter so I can see it adding up once dialed in. Hook the scooter charging business up with the gym business and your good to go. Would also be great pr.
@@electronicsNmore true but the heavier the wheel the longer it would take to slow down dont u think so? Just like a big ship slamming on brakes it can still go a while. The more power you need the heavier the wheel. So I assume. Just a suggestion.
@@electronicsNmore not exactly in a way. worth testing out to see ;) also low gear help at first to start it up before you go to high. ;) But the more you bike the better you get ;) example if you had a 1 ton wheel and you hang on it, it will move and it can have enough energy to power something longer than if you did the same to a 1 pound wheel. You would use the same energy to move the wheels which would be your weight. Or maybe that would be more ideal than a bike. Am I wrong on that example? thanks
This one is neat, sort of different than your usual videos, I concur with your obvious findings. There is no free lunch when it comes for power on demand, it takes serious input. Oh, by the way, I love the floor material/finish
@@electronicsNmore thank you... I’m not sure what the problem is but when I click that link it just opens a generic to Amazon .. I searched for step up converters but I didn’t find anything that brought the voltage to 115v. Maybe you can help me see what I’ve done wrong here
@@electronicsNmore Maybe the doctor should have had that setup instead of the treadmill for my stress test. They couldn't get my heartbeat up to 130 BPM even after 9 minutes and at the highest speed. Even the IV injection didn't last long. By the time I was unhooked and sitting down, my heartbeat had already dropped to 80 BPM. Less than a minute later it was under 70. Doc was unhappy when I scheduled it as my BPM was 52. The day of the test, before anything was done, it was 47.
@@simontay4851 I just went down a set of stairs, walked out and fed the dogs, climbed back up the stairs, and sat down. Puse rate, 54 BPM. A nurse during one stay in the hospital years ago recorded a high 30s rate. Same applies to my body temp. If I hit 98.6, I'm sick. Normal for me is in the lower-mid 96F range.
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Hello Doug, Be good to have if the power went out. I wonder if the DC motor and board would survive an EMP as it's not connected to the grid, or perhaps it doesn't matter. Nice set up. All the best, C.
The motor should be fine, and possibly the 13.5v step down circuit inside the metal box, but the large board would likely be destroyed. Thanks for watching!
LOL! Now what do you think about applying the setup to a water wheel with decent guided flow and some strong, well designed vanes? And ideas what one could expect based on you and your other work horses efforts? :)
No. All I did was reverse the wires on the treadmill motor, so the output was correct(+ / -) for the rotation of the wheel. Thanks for watching! Be sure to share the link, otherwise videos like this end up a big waste of my time.
A good racing bike with SPD pedal would increase efficiency. But better still by using a wheel with a hub motor like on electric bikes which are not mid drive, this way we would eliminate the noise of friction, pulleys and strap. Show us in the future how to convert a hub motor from a cheap electric bike . There are plenty of them in the used e-bike market because their owners are discouraged by the high price of replacing the battery pack.
BTW scooters electrical use a 12 or 7.2V engine. usually the drawback is the batt, engine is good. pawn shops have them at value, aluminum frame , heat difusser. that's all falks... merry melodies... >_ command:IPL
You can use a 1 wire alternator, but then you'd need a battery to supply power to the alternator's rotor. Thanks for watching! Be sure to share the video link with many others.
@@electronicsNmore I have a circuit I designed for repurposing automotive alternators in a quite efficient manner. It replaces the voltage regulator - changes the field coil current to regulate a fixed output voltage. You may be able to adapt it to start up an alternator with a little modification and a big capacitor, as there is enough residual magnetism left in the rotor to generate a little bit of power. Just have to not connect the load until you have the capacitor charged and the alternator running stable. You can also use it to adjust the output voltage, so you're not fixed at the usual 13.5V for lead-acid charging. Handy if you want more voltage, though I imagine if you went all the way up to 120V the alternator's built-in rectifier diodes would have some objection.
Here is what I want to see someone do: I want someone to get a 120-volt, 15-amp AC generator that is designed to be able to be hooked up to any power source, with an electric outlet and a power input shaft to power the generator. Then I want to see this generator mechanically connected to 40 stationary bikes. Then I want to see a full cycle being done on an old-fashioned agitator-style clothes washer on nothing except human-power.
You know, if you had just used the other side of the bikes rear wheel and gave it all a direct chain drive and toyed with gear ratios you be better off because the belt slips and the rubber tire gives and you lose a lot of torque. Just saying. lol. And maybe even run a multiple pulley system with a few more of those motors and a semi-heavy flywheel to keep things going easily after you get it rolling.
Anyone not habituated to either running or being on a bicycle is going to run out of breath a lot sooner than they might expect. There is a good deal of loss in the system between the bottom bracket and the output of the regulator. The drive system of a bike is pretty efficient, but that friction fit between the bicycle and the generator is very inefficient as is the belt drive. It all adds up. You are probably losing in excess of 40 watts when at higher loads. I don't think they are lying so much as they are vastly overestimating how much power they can create and how long they can create it and the overall efficiency of their system. Modern Westerners have the equivalent of about 100 energy slaves working for them round the clock. It really is amazing when you think about it. If a king 200 years ago had an engineer who understood air-conditioning and powered the system with humans, the king would have to pay or enslave 25 young in shape people to keep his large bedroom cool at night while he slept.
I don't discuss certain things on my channel, but yes, there is a virus going around. Do I believe they're making it out to be much worse than it is for political reasons? Absolutely. Most know what's going on, people aren't stupid. They have suspicions due to the timing of this virus. The virus didn't come out of nowhere. Thanks for watching
Are people buying this fake crap or are they generating revenue off people watching these fake videos? Watch the end of video he slips of pedals and the pump keeps working.
Absolutely loved the video, including the humor!
Glad you enjoyed it! It was a fun video to make. Thanks for your latest testing video!
I did something like this a few years ago with an old exercise bike, treadmill motor, diode, 12v battery & inverter. Was a fun project. Thanks for the video!
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Another great one.Get slick tyres,pump to 45psi as well which can help a lot.
Also oil your chain with silicone oil.
Slick tires will end up slipping on the spool under load.
@@electronicsNmore higher psi and better tyres will prevent that.btw that bicycle is very bad.Get a good road bike. (: Ps:Try getting one of the old Tacx Fortiuses you wont regret.
Love your videos mate.
I like this, if you were not able to start your car this could work to give it a boost. I would like to see a generator like this for when the bike is being riden out on a road or bike trail to charge phone or other devices.
Any charging will offer resistance so make sure all the hills are downhill.
If the battery wasn't totally dead, you should be able to put enough power back into the battery to start the car. My setup will easily charge laptops/pads, and phones. Thanks for watching! Remember to share the video link with others.
@@electronicsNmore That is a nice setup, when the halogen lamp was being powered the meter was reading 13.48 volts and around 6.25 amps, that is enough power to run my home theater system and then some. Maybe a setup like this for the kids to power their phones and gaming systems so they get some exercise instead of being glued to a sofa playing games all day. Sort of like a challenge, you can play all you want as long as you can power it yourself. It's not a punishment, but I may sound a little harsh.
higly efficient in the whole context view. thanks for showing us your progress.
keep improving. don't let the impossible"barrier, jeopardize your work.
thanks
Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Just started my project. Hoping for everyone's success this year. WE GOT THIS!💪😀
removing grease for thin oil from sealed ball bearings make huge difference.
True, less friction.
Great demo! And funny too.
Thank you! Glad you liked the video.
Excellent information. Would be great to charge a small battery.
You could charge up a car battery too, but it would take some time. Thanks for watching!
Would it be the same result if you installed a maxwell capacitor bank to it? Also why not use the power generated to turn another motor attached to a 90 amp alternator.
If you charge up a capacitor bank, you'll have plenty of power, but you'll need to limit the current flowing into the capacitors, or you won't be able to pedal. You always lose when transforming power, never gain. Thanks for watching!
Hi great info I liked this we are trying to build something like this setup where is the parts info I can not find it I want to know where to buy the 120-volt DC converter from and what it is please part number and size and other info on it thank you.
I really liked the video. Lots of questions.
1. Hypothetically, if you added a flywheel to the rear wheel would it increase the momentum and voltage generated?
2. In the event of an EMP would the latent (not being used) circuit board components in the mechanism get ruined?
3. Can this mechanism fully charge a 12 volt car battery?
4. Is this mechanism the same principle as a hydroelectric power plant, only miniaturize?
Thanks, Arthur.
PS: I really liked it because it's something I've thought about 100 times.
Glad you enjoyed it Arthur! I think the load placed on the generator would slow down the flywheel faster than you can pedal to maintain the speed of the flywheel. EMP, you can still charge up 12V lead acid batteries. :-).
1. No. But it would reduce the impact of varying load upon the rider, which could make it more comfortable to operate - you wouldn't experience quite as much of a jerk to your legs when someone turned an appliance on or off.
The flywheel is a temporary reservoir of (kinetic) energy analogous to a capacitor in electronics. It acts as a buffer. But energy in = energy out + heat (losses). If you are powering a 50W load then you must but in a bit more then that with your pedaling, depending on the system efficency. (losses occur at every step, chain/sproket, wheel rolling resistance against the generator spindle, all the bearings, the generator's windings, DC to DC converters and I2R losses)
The inertial/centrifugal force of a large flywheel would not increase momentum or voltage output, as you would still only be able to pedal it as fast as your strength would allow. However, it would tend to perpetuate momentum as you get tired, allowing for brief moments of rest on your legs without affecting the voltage as much as if there were no flywheel...In theory, one would be able to pedal for longer periods of time, thereby producing more electricity!
@@power-max Agree 100%
I wonder if you attached a brushless direct drive 3-phase ebike hub motor and added a three-phase bridge rectifier would be more efficient and less complex?
A brushless permanent magnet 3 phase motor is ideal.
Wow that's awesome 🌟 mindblowing,
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Heyy do you have a link for any of the items you used? The current link you posted in the details isn’t showing anything. Please reply❤
This guy can do it.. Cracked me 😂
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What a Cool and didactic experience
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What would be the ideal motor for this? Im trying to build this to charge a 100 Ah 12V LiFePO4 Deep Cycle Battery.
You can use a car alternator.
Hello Doug. Awesome test. I couldn't make it 2 seconds Lol. Has always I liked,shared. All my best.
Thanks for watching Bobby! It was some serious cardio. LOL
Thanks for the video. How would that setup do trying to charge up a deep cycle 12 volt battery?
You can charge that with no problem. set max current to 5 amps and you'll be fine.
@@electronicsNmore Thank you!
Every gym should have many of these in every city state and country. Imagine 20 people putting out 50w for one hour. I think that our be around 1kwh or so
They'll need a big bowl of pasta before they get on the bike. 😂 Thanks for watching!
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I agree. Several gyms could sell the power back to the utility company to offset their power costs. This could be a very good idea I think.
So about ten pence an hour. It's not economical to generate power this way. You'd be better off buying a few solar panels. It'd make a good novelty device though, to draw in customers.
@@mtkoslowski It's a nice idea but the economics wouldn't work. Compare the cost of a kilowatt hour of energy Vs payback on initial investment and ongoing maintenance per kilowatt hour. Even getting close to breaking even would be an achievement.
Membership fees offset by one peddlng, I'll take it. In my area San Diego we have the highest rates in the country so it really varies city to city state to state. Maybe it would make more sense in higher rate areas if the bikes would last. It's about 14cents to 20 cents here for a 350 watt hours hear to charge a scooter so I can see it adding up once dialed in. Hook the scooter charging business up with the gym business and your good to go. Would also be great pr.
wouldn't a heavier wheel make it easier to power devices since the momentum wont stop so easily. Also the bikes that use your arms as well would help.
Once a heavy load is applied, the wheel will quickly slow down.
@@electronicsNmore true but the heavier the wheel the longer it would take to slow down dont u think so? Just like a big ship slamming on brakes it can still go a while. The more power you need the heavier the wheel. So I assume. Just a suggestion.
@@trench01 Yes, but the heavier the wheel, the harder it will be to spin it back up.
@@electronicsNmore not exactly in a way. worth testing out to see ;) also low gear help at first to start it up before you go to high. ;) But the more you bike the better you get ;)
example if you had a 1 ton wheel and you hang on it, it will move and it can have enough energy to power something longer than if you did the same to a 1 pound wheel. You would use the same energy to move the wheels which would be your weight. Or maybe that would be more ideal than a bike. Am I wrong on that example? thanks
I see 20W lost in stiff belt, rough tire, compression friction, inductive , etc. ?
I'm sure there are some losses, but they're not high.
This one is neat, sort of different than your usual videos, I concur with your obvious findings. There is no free lunch when it comes for power on demand, it takes serious input.
Oh, by the way, I love the floor material/finish
Seeing how much effort was required to power the drill, made me appreciate my power company. LOL. The floor is terrazzo. Thanks for watching!
What is the converter you’re using to get to 115v?
Hi Seth. There should be links in the video description area. Thanks for watching!
@@electronicsNmore thank you... I’m not sure what the problem is but when I click that link it just opens a generic to Amazon .. I searched for step up converters but I didn’t find anything that brought the voltage to 115v. Maybe you can help me see what I’ve done wrong here
Very entertaining video! Well, that's certainly "alternative energy....without getting a heart attack"! LOL 😂😂👍👍
Heart rate goes up very fast trying to power that drill. Thanks for watching!
@@electronicsNmore Maybe the doctor should have had that setup instead of the treadmill for my stress test. They couldn't get my heartbeat up to 130 BPM even after 9 minutes and at the highest speed. Even the IV injection didn't last long. By the time I was unhooked and sitting down, my heartbeat had already dropped to 80 BPM. Less than a minute later it was under 70. Doc was unhappy when I scheduled it as my BPM was 52. The day of the test, before anything was done, it was 47.
47, thats a very low resting heart rate.
@@simontay4851 True, mine bottoms out around 56-58
@@simontay4851 I just went down a set of stairs, walked out and fed the dogs, climbed back up the stairs, and sat down. Puse rate, 54 BPM. A nurse during one stay in the hospital years ago recorded a high 30s rate. Same applies to my body temp. If I hit 98.6, I'm sick. Normal for me is in the lower-mid 96F range.
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Hello Doug, Be good to have if the power went out. I wonder if the DC motor and board would survive an EMP as it's not connected to the grid, or perhaps it doesn't matter. Nice set up. All the best, C.
The motor should be fine, and possibly the 13.5v step down circuit inside the metal box, but the large board would likely be destroyed. Thanks for watching!
I spend too much of my life under the hood cuz I was immediately like "hey that looks like a Honda PS pump pulley" and sure enough
That's where I got it. :-)
Nice video
Thanks Ed!
Now all we need is a box of green crackers!
😂
Don't eat people...
LOL! Now what do you think about applying the setup to a water wheel with decent guided flow and some strong, well designed vanes? And ideas what one could expect based on you and your other work horses efforts? :)
That would work, if I had raging rapids. :-)
@@electronicsNmore :) How about wind? I thinking of course about our friends in the off-grid communities...
I tried the Amazon link that you left in your video it just takes me to a general Amazon sign in page nothing else
Yes. I was directing viewers to where many items can be found. You need a specific link?
No need to rewire the treadmill motor ?
No. A treadmill motor is the perfect motor for a bike generator.
No. All I did was reverse the wires on the treadmill motor, so the output was correct(+ / -) for the rotation of the wheel. Thanks for watching! Be sure to share the link, otherwise videos like this end up a big waste of my time.
@@electronicsNmore will do ! Thanks..FlipFlops rule !!!
A good racing bike with SPD pedal would increase efficiency. But better still by using a wheel with a hub motor like on electric bikes which are not mid drive, this way we would eliminate the noise of friction, pulleys and strap. Show us in the future how to convert a hub motor from a cheap electric bike . There are plenty of them in the used e-bike market because their owners are discouraged by the high price of replacing the battery pack.
How do i find components to build this please?
Refer to my other bike generator video for more details.
BTW scooters electrical use a 12 or 7.2V engine. usually the drawback is the batt, engine is good. pawn shops have them at value, aluminum frame , heat difusser.
that's all falks... merry melodies... >_ command:IPL
Could u just use an alternator instead ?
You can use a 1 wire alternator, but then you'd need a battery to supply power to the alternator's rotor. Thanks for watching! Be sure to share the video link with many others.
@@electronicsNmore I have a circuit I designed for repurposing automotive alternators in a quite efficient manner. It replaces the voltage regulator - changes the field coil current to regulate a fixed output voltage. You may be able to adapt it to start up an alternator with a little modification and a big capacitor, as there is enough residual magnetism left in the rotor to generate a little bit of power. Just have to not connect the load until you have the capacitor charged and the alternator running stable. You can also use it to adjust the output voltage, so you're not fixed at the usual 13.5V for lead-acid charging. Handy if you want more voltage, though I imagine if you went all the way up to 120V the alternator's built-in rectifier diodes would have some objection.
Rig that to an inverter and use it to power the TV. That way you gotta exercise to watch the boobtube. 👍
I thought of that already. LOL
Here is what I want to see someone do: I want someone to get a 120-volt, 15-amp AC generator that is designed to be able to be hooked up to any power source, with an electric outlet and a power input shaft to power the generator. Then I want to see this generator mechanically connected to 40 stationary bikes. Then I want to see a full cycle being done on an old-fashioned agitator-style clothes washer on nothing except human-power.
Bike generator generate electricity to power a big sound system with subwoofers
You know, if you had just used the other side of the bikes rear wheel and gave it all a direct chain drive and toyed with gear ratios you be better off because the belt slips and the rubber tire gives and you lose a lot of torque. Just saying. lol. And maybe even run a multiple pulley system with a few more of those motors and a semi-heavy flywheel to keep things going easily after you get it rolling.
The purpose is to have any bike easily go in and out of the stand.
Where is the components parts list and the wiring diagram ? Or is this video intended for entertainment only ?
I have another video explaining more.
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DAM dude 5 - 6 minutes at only 120 WATTs holy that must be hard (inefficiencies in the system)
A reasonable level of power that you could generate, would be 50-60W max continuously.
First comment....
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Thanks for watching!
Anyone not habituated to either running or being on a bicycle is going to run out of breath a lot sooner than they might expect. There is a good deal of loss in the system between the bottom bracket and the output of the regulator. The drive system of a bike is pretty efficient, but that friction fit between the bicycle and the generator is very inefficient as is the belt drive. It all adds up. You are probably losing in excess of 40 watts when at higher loads.
I don't think they are lying so much as they are vastly overestimating how much power they can create and how long they can create it and the overall efficiency of their system.
Modern Westerners have the equivalent of about 100 energy slaves working for them round the clock. It really is amazing when you think about it. If a king 200 years ago had an engineer who understood air-conditioning and powered the system with humans, the king would have to pay or enslave 25 young in shape people to keep his large bedroom cool at night while he slept.
Many lie about it for views, others just don't realize it.
bad sticking drill:)
I bet Sir Chris Hoy, the professional cyclist, could power the drill easily. He has huge thighs (i read somewhere that they're 26 inch in diametre).
Awesome, just shows how weak humans are, this is why we need machines! I myself want a Ironman suit, cut out the middle machine! Ha-ha,
I appreciate the 120v receptacles in my house a lot more after making this video. LOL
And u believe this "virus"?
I don't discuss certain things on my channel, but yes, there is a virus going around. Do I believe they're making it out to be much worse than it is for political reasons? Absolutely. Most know what's going on, people aren't stupid. They have suspicions due to the timing of this virus. The virus didn't come out of nowhere. Thanks for watching
Are people buying this fake crap or are they generating revenue off people watching these fake videos? Watch the end of video he slips of pedals and the pump keeps working.