The Fender Bronco Vibrato: How Does it Work?

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  • Опубликовано: 19 май 2022
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    This one's been a long time coming, but it's finally here. We're going to dive deep into the vibrato/bridge tailpiece of the ultra-cool Fender Bronco, a cousin of the Musicmaster from the same era. Special thanks to Patreon supporter Hendo for lending me the guitar!
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  • @TomCarmony
    @TomCarmony 2 года назад +59

    Aw, this video warms my heart! I sold this very Bronco to Hendo late last year, and while I had it, I thought about sending it your way for some work, hoping you'd do a video on that vibrato! I'm so stoked to see and hear that cool little LPB '77 in your hands, Mike!

  • @timvanboening9432
    @timvanboening9432 5 месяцев назад +3

    I played a Dakota Red Bronco at the Guitar Center I worked at in the mid-00s. I didn’t give it the respect it deserved and strummed a few chords, and set it down.
    Now I wish I could go back and play it with the reverence it deserved.

  • @leamanc
    @leamanc 2 года назад +11

    Man, Fender has had so many cool models over the years. This particular Bronco is gorgeous!

  • @pepuletrz
    @pepuletrz 2 года назад +5

    I had one of these back in 2000 it was a 67 after my mom passed i got home invaded and it was stolen along with so much other stuff i just want this back it was a gift from my mom.. please come back to me..bronco i need you.😢

  • @AndrewStottisTheIndiWerWlf
    @AndrewStottisTheIndiWerWlf 2 года назад +7

    This really cool. Now I want to find one of these and put a P90 in the bridge position... That's would be a cool one for Fender to reissue and one of their alternate/parallel/paranormal series.

  • @mcfontaine
    @mcfontaine 2 года назад +2

    Hey you, don’t thank us … thank you, for bringing nothing but joy in our lives from the very first “hello it’s your old friend Mike” the last fading note of cool.

  • @ARWest-bp4yb
    @ARWest-bp4yb 2 года назад +8

    Hey Mike, that was great! I got a '68 Bronco back in the 80s for $40, and still have it. I foolishly added a 2nd pickup, but who knew back then it might become something valuable in the distant future. Never touched the vibrato though, interesting to see how it's supposed to work, and mine clearly isn't set up properly lol!
    Thanks! 👍👍

  • @diego_cabanillas
    @diego_cabanillas 2 года назад +8

    I'd love to own a fender bronco some day, especially a black one as the one Alex Turner used in the 2000s with the arctic monkeys

    • @renmusical
      @renmusical 2 года назад +1

      Can’t help but think of Favourite Worst Nightmare when I see that guitar

    • @johnf.r6658
      @johnf.r6658 Год назад +2

      I had the chance to get a model just like that one, a bronco, black from 77/78 but I didn't and now I can't find one for years ... I guess I'll put it in the "regrets" list and move on ha

  • @PureVatn
    @PureVatn 2 года назад +13

    Basicly offset vibratos tend to Push the plates back in place, unlike traditional tremolos where springs pull them back in place, very interesting. Im guessing the lower travel and smaller springs really give that vibe and feel of the offset vibratos

    • @leamanc
      @leamanc 2 года назад +1

      You are correct about the function of the plates, but the end result is very similar to a Strat-style floating tremolo. The tension from the spring is still, in effect, pulling on the strings. If there’s any doubt about that, just tighten or loosen the tension screw without even playing the guitar. You’ll notice a huge difference in string tension. If Jags are known for popping strings, it’s because people have way too much tension set in the spring.
      You are absolutely right about the lower travel being a big factor in the signature sound.

  • @scootb7400
    @scootb7400 Год назад +1

    As a kid (‘99-ish) my little brother got a late 80’s American Fender Bronco. I know it’s a very different guitar, but apparently it was the rarest version. It had the Strat/offset body, Tele style neck, with 2 single coils, and the metal pickguard that is also part of the bridge. It was bright red and I have like 5 dedicated searches saved on Reverb and eBay but I’ve never seen another in that configuration. Anyway, this reminded me of how fun that short-scale beauty was! I’d love to get my hands on another.

  • @victor981006
    @victor981006 2 года назад +1

    Another amazing video with another amazing jam session at the end!

  • @kirkwilson6229
    @kirkwilson6229 2 года назад +1

    Interesting design. Thanks for taking it apart and showing it off.

  • @Terry3Gs
    @Terry3Gs 2 года назад

    WOW, very cool tremolo !! Thanks for sharing this with us !!

  • @marcraygun6290
    @marcraygun6290 2 года назад

    Been waiting fo this video for 28 years, my bandmate had 78 bronco, i loved it

  • @ijahtom4129
    @ijahtom4129 Год назад

    Interesting vibrato I have never heard of. Thanks for introduce it so well 👍🏻. Well wishings and all the best furthermore.

  • @EricMerrow
    @EricMerrow Год назад

    Man, this vibrato is something wild - Definitely dig it though. Thanks for always making incredible videos Mike!

  • @lazercheesecake
    @lazercheesecake 2 года назад

    Another fantastic video!

  • @Brannington
    @Brannington 2 года назад +1

    for some reason when you were talking about the pivot plate slipping off, a phrase coursed through my head to the tune of Nirvana's song Tourette's "MAYDAY- PIVOT PLATE, IT'S NOT GREAT"

  • @jackgreenwood1817
    @jackgreenwood1817 2 года назад

    Oh wow! I just picked up a '77 Bronco a month ago. What fantastic little guitars they are :)
    The guitar wasn't holding tune great with the vibrato when I got it, but fortunately a little nut lube and a tighten of the vibrato cured it. I didn't even take the vibrato off so this is great to see, thanks once again Mike.

  • @timetostartup3451
    @timetostartup3451 2 года назад

    Love a bronco, I’ve always wanted one and the vibrato system is so unique

  • @danielsgrunge
    @danielsgrunge 2 года назад +1

    As a Mustang and it's family lover I'm yet to own a Bronco, it looks like it's a lovely machine!

  • @jimismith6648
    @jimismith6648 2 года назад +2

    Love Ted and his work 🙏

  • @darkvillin
    @darkvillin 2 года назад

    I was today years old when I learned these existed. Thank you and amazing video as always. LL&P

  • @summerbrainrock
    @summerbrainrock 2 года назад

    a legend at work

  • @AppaBoy
    @AppaBoy 11 месяцев назад

    that guitar is beautiful. love the open space and single pickup. love the shirt too!

  • @dann1966
    @dann1966 Год назад

    I got have a Bronco '78 original. Beautiful instrument!! Greetings from Rosario Argentina Mike

  • @bluesdawg8014
    @bluesdawg8014 8 месяцев назад

    I have a 78 bronco that was given to me years ago. I've installed a Seymour Duncan SL59-1 Little 59 in mine, keeping the original in the case for now. I set the guitar up to play slide. The thing screams the blues. These are really cool guitars. Los Angeles

  • @ZRobertson91
    @ZRobertson91 2 года назад +3

    As a neck pick up lover, I really want a MusicMaster with this trem on it

  • @RichardCharter
    @RichardCharter 2 года назад +3

    Big shoutout to Ted!

  • @dwightpeters
    @dwightpeters 6 месяцев назад

    Typed in "How does the Fender Bronco trem work?" Best possible result!

  • @alextuozzo7138
    @alextuozzo7138 2 года назад +2

    I didn't know this thing existed I thought it was only a bass so thank you for the cool video :)

  • @realdocloco
    @realdocloco 2 года назад

    I have a white '73 and I totally agree with you - great guitar! I started with a Musicmaster but I really prefer the Bronco.

  • @midnite_in_november
    @midnite_in_november 2 года назад

    Nice twoodfrd shoutout 👍

  • @danwillis58
    @danwillis58 2 года назад +3

    twoodfrd is the BEST

  • @notplaying2379
    @notplaying2379 2 года назад

    I had never seen a Bronco before. I like that vibrato.

  • @TyRobertsmedia
    @TyRobertsmedia Год назад

    Just found this video! I started my guitar journey with a 1971 dakota red Bronco and a Vibro-Champ, bought from my teacher Bobby Whitley who had Whitley Music Studios outside Atlanta. I was 12! I'm still playing and miss than 1st guitar. Lesson: Never sell your first.

    • @bluesdawg8014
      @bluesdawg8014 8 месяцев назад

      I sold my first and was bummed out for decades. It was a 59 Epiphone Coronet. The originals are selling for over $3000 now so I bought a replacement reissue from Epiphone that was made in China. I'm just blown away how great of a reissue this guitar is. CTS pots, old school every thing, even the head stock is 59, solid mahogany body $400 and it sounds great. Now I feel like I have my old friend back : ) I also own a 78 Bronco which is totally awesome as well. Both of these are killer slide guitars.
      Los Angeles

  • @jjdillon2007
    @jjdillon2007 2 года назад +1

    "The Ted Woodford" method of videos. Mike, you crack me up. 🤣😂😁😆😅😀😜😃 I love Ted's video's and his amazing skills.

  • @megablazeikenTCG122
    @megablazeikenTCG122 2 года назад

    That black music master photo used was of my buddy’s listing. His shops the number one stop for me when I’m looking for anything offset fender! always loved those offsets. Music masters rock!

    • @davedavid7061
      @davedavid7061 Год назад

      Question. There's a 66 musicmaster for sale in my area. It's beat up but looks pretty cool. What do these things go for normaly?

    • @megablazeikenTCG122
      @megablazeikenTCG122 Год назад

      @@davedavid7061 between 1200-1700k depending on originality and condition

    • @davedavid7061
      @davedavid7061 Год назад

      @@megablazeikenTCG122 this thing might be a bargain then

  • @VonL
    @VonL 2 года назад

    Bravo!!!

  • @KaelanSamoranos
    @KaelanSamoranos 2 года назад

    Perfect timing to see this on my recommended! I just got my refin’d 78 Bronco back from a friend. I’ve been struggling to search for the perfect replacement trem arm.
    Do you recall the arm diameter?

  • @Jaundice__
    @Jaundice__ Год назад +1

    Spanky lil bronco. 😊

  • @allyourbasearebelongtous2191
    @allyourbasearebelongtous2191 2 года назад +2

    It needs a Tele neck pup. That'll make more people play em.

    • @aiden4884
      @aiden4884 Год назад +1

      Putting a Gibson mini in the neck position of my 67' soon!

  • @MarkB.Guitar
    @MarkB.Guitar 2 года назад +3

    Hey Mike, have you seen Göldo's TDG1JM Tremolo? Seems like the Bronco design but to fit Jags/Jazzies. Don't know if they're any good but would be cool to here your thoughts on them! Love the channel and all the tips & info you share for offset guitars 🌟💀

  • @cliffsadozer1241
    @cliffsadozer1241 2 года назад +7

    I wish Mastery would develop a “perfected” version of the bronco bridge with their trem arm system and a saddle system with easier intonation.

  • @kevb2616
    @kevb2616 Год назад

    I remember seeing one of these in the Buddy holly story ,before I knew what a bronco was, and thinking it was weird to have a mustang with only the bridge pickup.

  • @Digosaurus
    @Digosaurus 2 года назад

    MASSES AND BRONCO FTW!

  • @jeffs6114
    @jeffs6114 2 года назад +1

    I’ve been looking for a Bronco vibrato for a few years now to finish a 75 bronco neck/77 duo sonic body build. And those guys are really hard to find short of buying a complete bronco. I always thought it looked like a great system one day I’ll find one…. Or find someone to make one on a CNC machine… anyone ever heard of someone who can do this?
    It’s so fun I’m sure Fender could re-issue this guitar and it would be a success

  • @finboyYYC
    @finboyYYC 2 года назад +1

    i have some bronco knobs in "players grade" condition if the guy wants a set. Tops got a bit melty from being put by some kind of a heat source for a bit too long but they are correct for the period.

  • @martinclayton7260
    @martinclayton7260 Год назад

    I wish my Strat trem worked that well, I've had to lock it off, as it frustrated the hell out of me!

  • @surftrem1328
    @surftrem1328 2 года назад

    Nice. So what do you think about J&L Doheny? Thanks.

  • @birdsong2552
    @birdsong2552 2 года назад +7

    Great vid! What puzzles me is why Leo Fender would redesign a new tremolo/bridge with every new guitar model. Do you know why? And why Fender doesn't seem to be doin this anymore?

    • @leamanc
      @leamanc 2 года назад +6

      Leo Fender was an engineering genius, and probably couldn’t resist the chance to try something new or refine an existing design. Fender does try new things every so often these days, with less than great results. See: the Panorama trem and V-mod pickups.

    • @USSLIBERTYREMEMBERER
      @USSLIBERTYREMEMBERER 2 года назад +2

      Leaman Crews I’m a little iffy on the V-mod pickups (i personally don’t like mixing alnico numbers on single coils) but that panorama is really something else.

  • @sloppy_hand
    @sloppy_hand Год назад

    it's got the same working principle as harmony's/hagstrom's (which are "jazzmaster's in reverse"), but in this case the bridge and the tailpiece are one thing, while in harmony's/hagstrom's it's a separate piece, with much more string lenght behind the bridge

  • @54macdog
    @54macdog 2 года назад +2

    Ironic that this lower end Fender model has a vibrato way better engineered and built than any Gibson.

  • @cecilmusick8629
    @cecilmusick8629 2 года назад

    will the Bronco Vibrato lower pitch as much as a strat trem? Will the arm dive all the way down to the pickguard?

  • @user-zb4be9wj9p
    @user-zb4be9wj9p 25 дней назад

    where can i found and buy one of these?

  • @pepedelgado2148
    @pepedelgado2148 Год назад

    Hi you all, does anybody here know the exact measure of the saddles' screws? i have some metric screws now that dont hold the saddle in place and have some vibration issues. Thanks in advance.

  • @brennanferguson3537
    @brennanferguson3537 Год назад

    Went to pickup a 65 mustang one time and the guy really wanted me to buy this 68 bronco for like $500, but I was having none of it haha

  • @cenovita
    @cenovita 2 года назад

    I had the chance to play a bronco like 30 years ago, but sadly that one didn't had the arm so never tried the vibrato. I almost forgot about this model. Now, after mi GAS meter is tingling, lol

  • @thecaveofthedead
    @thecaveofthedead 2 года назад

    That's a really appealing guitar. Gonna keep an eye out. Mike, I wonder if you can address a question which may be dumb. Do Jazzmaster polepiece need to be staggered to match the bridge radius? And if so, do you just push them into position from the back? Mine are totally flat which doesn't make too much sense on a vintage radius and yours _appear_ to be radiused.

    • @thecaveofthedead
      @thecaveofthedead 2 года назад

      Absolutely love Twoodford btw. Calms the anxiety and taught me more than I knew there was to know about acoustics - and mine plays so much better as a result.

    • @jackgreenwood1817
      @jackgreenwood1817 2 года назад +1

      Flat pole pieces is fine, don't sweat it

    • @joseislanio8910
      @joseislanio8910 2 года назад +1

      With modern strings, there's no point in staggered pole pieces. Maybe for following the radius, but even then, the inner strings are "felt" by more coil surface, thus compensating for that.

  • @telecasterbear
    @telecasterbear 2 года назад

    I'm sorry I can't see you also. I love Mr. Ted. I don't prefer vibratos, but I do prefer this type without the separate 'floating' bridge.

  • @JakeMakely
    @JakeMakely 2 года назад +1

    It's sort of like a more sophisticated version of the 60s danelectro vibrato

  • @bltvd
    @bltvd 2 года назад

    I converted my 78 Bronco to a 12 string 25 years ago.

  • @matheusmoscozo5976
    @matheusmoscozo5976 10 месяцев назад

    A Mustang/ Jaguar Vibrato fits in the Fender Bronco?

  • @syaidanyakob877
    @syaidanyakob877 Год назад

    Alex turner from arctic monkeys using this bronco since 2007-2011(stole while touring) also 62 sunburst jazzmaster with black pickguard since 2009-now

  • @chickenlickin3820
    @chickenlickin3820 2 года назад +1

    whats the 1912 tattoo for?

    • @bucko5427
      @bucko5427 2 года назад

      I was wondering about that too

  • @Fawkes1978
    @Fawkes1978 2 года назад

    To have done it truly in the style of Ted Woodford, there should have been some soldering/soldering and some polishing, polishing, ... polishing!

  • @troyl200
    @troyl200 2 года назад

    RUclips needs to start putting your shit in my feed more often.

  • @santrixhimself3679
    @santrixhimself3679 2 года назад +1

    but how to adjust string height?

    • @jackgreenwood1817
      @jackgreenwood1817 2 года назад +1

      You adjust it by tightening or loosening the 2 bridge posts (the hex head screws). Mike shows this in the video

    • @santrixhimself3679
      @santrixhimself3679 2 года назад +1

      @@jackgreenwood1817 oh that makes sense i must have missed it. thanks

  • @cecilmusick8629
    @cecilmusick8629 2 года назад +1

    Is this the first 2 pivot vibrato ever? technically Bronco's were around before Floyds.

    • @Puisheen
      @Puisheen  2 года назад +1

      Oh yeah, that's a good point. You're probably right!

  • @lucavasconcellos
    @lucavasconcellos 2 года назад +1

    looks a lot like an accent on a rick